1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: A zimpic is changing the world, of course, but this 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: country has the opportunity that flows from it, so we 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: grow as it turns out a key ingredient. It's a 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: natural alternative adam amata site. It's extracted from hops and 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: sales have doubled every quarter. Is a zimpic. Shortages create 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: a sort of a perfect storm for a natural alternative. 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Now the whole category is expected to be worth they say, 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: about one hundred billion dollars by twenty thirty. Leading international 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: obesity expert doctor Ben Gonzalez is with us on this 10 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: has been very good morning to you. 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: Well, good morning to you mate. 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: What's your view on this whole GLP revolution. 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting. 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: I've been using this medication for over seven years, and 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: of course celebrity attention just kind of shoots up, you know, 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: he shoots up the attention a couple of years ago, 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: and now it's become It wasn't even on the on 18 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: the radars less than three years ago, and now it's 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: one of the top five drugs prescribed. So I think 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: it's a very useful, powerful, safe drug, but it needs 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: to be used appropriately, with appropriate you know, doctor intervention. 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: But the problem is it isn't, is it. 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: No, it isn't. And I've been watching especially over the 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: last year and a half and watching these pop up 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: kind of weight loss spas. These weight losses are just 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: kind of selling the. 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Drug and doctors not being fully trained on how to 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: manage the medication, just kind of writing the prescriptions willy nilly, 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: and and. 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Then there you have it. So we've got like I said, 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: it's relatively safe, but but it's not being used appropriately. 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: This natural side of the equation, this is amarasite. Given 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: it comes from hops, presumably it was there all along. 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Did we just not know about it or we didn't 35 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: know what it could do? 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, definitely, we know about what bidders do for 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: human physiology. We know it's a protective. It's very protective 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: for human physiology for safety reasons, you know, all right, 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: especially for women, especially for pregnant women. Right. So we've 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: known ab out the bitter receptors, but we haven't known 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: is the usefulness of these types of things for helping 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: with hunger, weight loss, and blood sugger management. So yes, 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: we've known for a while. We've been studying it for 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: a while. The bottom line is that now it's coming 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: to fruition. The studies have been going on over the 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: last seven to ten years, and we're seeing the benefits 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: of that, this natural substance doing good. 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: Things pound for pound, as you would say in America, 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: if I take a zimpic versus the bitters, does it 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: work the same way with the same of fake do 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: or not? 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: Oh? Very good question, because that is the question that 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: time will give us some more answers. Right. That's a 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 2: little early because there's no studies that look at ocempic 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: against the emeristate or you know, comparing those two products together. 56 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: There's no studies that do that. However, we do know 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: with human studies that it does similar effect to a sempeic. 58 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: I've been finding in my practice that same effect of 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: triggering those hormones in the gut to allow for satiety, 60 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: for managing hunger and for managing blood sugar. So yes, 61 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: you do get in those days, you do get similar response. 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: Now we're looking for a clinical response, right, and I've 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: been seeing in my practice pound four pound, as you said, 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: I have been seeing it work very very well, similar 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: to the Osempics. 66 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating area. Been appreciate Tom very much. Much 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: to talk to you, doctor Being Gonzalez, leading international obesity expert. 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Hosking Breakfast, listen live to 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 70 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio