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Speaker 2: Good are you Great? New Zealanders? Welcome to Pod number

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Speaker 2: one five five on the seventh of July twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Great show today. Now Maddie is not here for this

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Speaker 2: little bit here because he's got to shoot back to

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Speaker 2: the airport to fly back up to Auckland. He's been

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Speaker 2: down in the beautiful city of Dunedin for the past

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Speaker 2: few days at the All Blacks, the Lucky Bugger and

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Speaker 2: catching up with his family. But a really good show today.

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Speaker 2: We talked about what was the best way to get

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Speaker 2: your kids back to school? So some fantastic calls on

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Speaker 2: that one, including one woman that shot her Is that

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Speaker 2: the right word?

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Speaker 2: I suppose it has shot her children in the face

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Speaker 2: with the water gun to get them out of bed,

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Speaker 2: so that seemed to work. Then after two o'clock we

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Speaker 2: talked about zoos. Are they crawl or are they awesome?

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Speaker 2: And some pretty grunty discussion there. Then after three o'clock,

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Speaker 2: people who have been married three times? Edmunds TV personality

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Speaker 2: superstar in the UK and here in New Zealand he's

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Speaker 2: getting married to his third wife for the fifth time.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you work that out. But that was a

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Speaker 2: great chat and had some fantastic calls on that hour.

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Speaker 2: But download subscribe, give us a review all that good stuff,

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Speaker 2: and in the meantime, give them a taste.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News

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Speaker 1: Talk said.

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Speaker 4: Be.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you. Welcome into Monday show. Hope you're

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Speaker 2: doing well wherever you're listening in the country ghetto.

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Speaker 5: Matt's get a Tyler gide everyone. I'm coming to you

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Speaker 5: live from Dunedin City, my hometown, the pretty city here

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Speaker 5: in the panoramic Insidney studios down here, beautiful view.

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Speaker 2: Tyler, you've been filling up on mutton pies and cheese

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Speaker 2: rolls and what other southern delicacies. I saw you. You

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Speaker 2: sent through a photo of your mutton pies outside the

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Speaker 2: local bakery. It was good to see man.

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Speaker 5: I was dipping cheese rolls into seafood chowder just yesterday

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Speaker 5: afternoon and it was delightful, absolutely delightful. Saffron the Lunar Cafe,

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Speaker 5: Anthoneen and anyone that's been down here is beautiful, beautiful views,

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Speaker 5: and there's so many great places in this town. I've

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Speaker 5: had a fantastic time, although I did I'm not going

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Speaker 5: lost up in the Silver Peaks area for a while

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Speaker 5: on a run. But you had a pretty punishing holiday,

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Speaker 5: and didn't you have the worst holiday you've ever had

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Speaker 2: It was a disaster. And look, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 2: I was pleased to get at least a couple of

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Speaker 2: days in the Mulborough Sounds that was absolutely beautiful. But

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Speaker 2: when we were talking about the show a couple of

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Speaker 2: fridays ago before we took the time off, that weather

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Speaker 2: bomb came in. Actually I hate that term. The weather

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Speaker 2: she'll be right, She'll be right. So we drove down

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Speaker 2: But the fairy we managed to get was five o'clock

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Speaker 2: Listening on with the show, I'm glad you had a

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Speaker 2: On to today's show after three o'clock. This is going

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Speaker 2: to be a great discussion. So no, no, Edmunds huge

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Speaker 5: So fifth wedding to its third wife. So he's had

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Speaker 5: he's married of five times. They have they broken up

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Speaker 5: showing your love's type situation? They just love weddings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it appears they love weddings. And this is the

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Speaker 2: fifth time. And this is the fifth reproposal when he

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Speaker 2: his wife Liz Davies's fifty five. That is quite unusual

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Speaker 2: Third times a charm obviously, but to repropose five times.

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Speaker 5: He's a great man. Noel Edmunds. Noel Edmunds house party

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Speaker 5: Noel Edmunds, can we get Noel Edmonds on the line.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to get the details on it. But a

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Speaker 5: people that have been married three times and I've refused

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Speaker 2: Time, as you should. Yeah, I mean, that's a massive

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Speaker 5: Come on, Yeah, there's got to be a certain amount

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Speaker 2: Marriage nicely said. That is after three o'clock, looking forward

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Speaker 2: to your calls. Then after two o'clock. A gruesome story

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Speaker 5: But we want to.

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Speaker 2: Talk about the perception of zoos in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: many a controversial. There's a growing school of thought about

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Speaker 5: I think zoos are fantastic. I think Auckland Zoo is

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Speaker 2: unjustified absences. So young people that are enrolled in school

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Speaker 5: There's probably it's probably in the top five things that

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Speaker 5: love them, get them to school. Yeah, is probably another

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Speaker 5: one come up before. But you know, maybe it's one

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's not. But for the parents out there

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Speaker 5: But my parents had a very you have to go

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Speaker 2: There'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: new figures are just released that shows thousands of New

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And the story comes up around a certain percentage

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Speaker 5: that's terrible parenting. If you've got a kid and you

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Speaker 5: in the times I've done it, maybe because my kids

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Speaker 5: in terms of, you know, justices of the peace and

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Speaker 5: finding all the all the jabs have had and everything

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Speaker 2: It took you a few days to get sorted, didn't it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I did. But but then again, I'm a parent,

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Speaker 5: so it's absolute basic that you get it sorted out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: There should be absolute public shaming if you if your

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Speaker 5: But this Texas is a good point. It's kind of

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Speaker 5: That's biologic and biology and physics. They have to they

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Speaker 5: that's a huge problem. Teenage kids can get pretty big, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, going back to to I don't know what

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Speaker 2: You know what else do you do to try and

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Speaker 5: It's so easy to sit here in my palatial panoramic

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Speaker 5: but the actuality of it can be quite hard. Children

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Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, let's out of the phones, Mirriam. Very good

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Speaker 7: Yeah good. How are you going?

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Speaker 7: I've got one still at school. But it was the

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Speaker 7: The police come and took her. Supposedly she wasn't she

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Speaker 5: Well, Miriam. Good on you for just keeping going against

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Speaker 7: I've thrivened that and I had to carry through. And

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Speaker 5: That did that? Did that finish the problem? Mariam?

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Speaker 5: Tyler? Did that finish the did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? And what did the police say to them

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Speaker 5: That tell me how that situation went down? Mariam was

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Speaker 7: No, she had just been happily. She knew she wasn't

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Speaker 5: Now does it? What did they talk about? What authority

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Speaker 7: With the backing of the school. I know there was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, well, yes, I said before I've got on

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Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks so much, and hats off to our police

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Speaker 5: Good as gold. I like the idea, just some you know,

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Speaker 5: Tasers out. You know you're you're forced into the back

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Speaker 2: Scare them straight. It is twenty six past one. Keen

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the news speakers the mic asking.

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Speaker 5: Breakfast, we have Deputy Prime Minister David symour this independent

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Speaker 2: Do you think this idea is dead now?

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Speaker 9: I do.

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's ever made sense speaking just for

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Speaker 10: alternative budgets every year we've been in opposition, never had

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Speaker 10: the other hand, do you want the bureaucracy, who, by

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Speaker 5: On the first wa why would we pay for stuff

436
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Speaker 5: that you guys, as political parties are paying for yourself?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right?

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Speaker 4: Hither duplicy?

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Speaker 1: Ellen on the mic asking breakfast back tomorrow at six

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Speaker 1: am with Bailey's Real Estate on news togs d B.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty nine past one and we've asked the question

442
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Speaker 2: how hard is it to get your kids to school

443
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five? If you've gone through that.

444
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Speaker 5: Bat all love to hear from you this co text

445
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Speaker 5: your kids to school, Try taking the internet router out

446
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Speaker 5: with you, or unplug and hide it. When I didn't

447
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Speaker 5: go to school, when I was kred, if I was

448
00:20:02,333 --> 00:20:05,733
Speaker 5: genuinely sacked, there was nothing to do. It was boring

449
00:20:06,013 --> 00:20:09,533
Speaker 5: being at home. Who was absolutely pun I'd watch Aerobic's

450
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Speaker 5: Hods Style and then there'll be nothing else to do

451
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Speaker 5: for the day. So Jesus size, yeah, people have a

452
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Speaker 5: certain note, we'll know what I'm talking about. But anyway,

453
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Speaker 5: you know, it is pretty fun and entertaining to be

454
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Speaker 5: at home if you're a kid these days, you know,

455
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Speaker 5: so if you got what your games you can play,

456
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Speaker 5: there's internet, there's social media, all that kind of stuff.

457
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Speaker 5: I think if a kid stays at home, all that

458
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Speaker 5: stuff has got to be off right. You've got you

459
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Speaker 5: can't make staying home from school fun. This this TEXTI

460
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Speaker 5: here says thing, and I think this is a real problem.

461
00:20:39,213 --> 00:20:41,373
Speaker 5: I got bullied, real bad in nineteen ninety seven. I

462
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Speaker 5: was eleven, hated hated school. Mum kept me going. I

463
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Speaker 5: got suicidal. My older brother figured it out and got

464
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Speaker 5: mum to change schools. Yeah, I mean that is that

465
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Speaker 5: is the question. Why isn't your kid going to school?

466
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Speaker 5: And if they're just getting horribly bullied. I guess that's

467
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Speaker 5: when as a parent you need to engage with the

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Speaker 5: school and try and engage with the kid and find

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Speaker 5: out what the real problem is. Because if it's just

470
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Speaker 5: incredibly horrible to go to that particular school, I'm sure

471
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Speaker 5: you can get help to move them to an other school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you've been through that situation, love to

473
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Speaker 2: hear from your on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Lisa,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Good?

477
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Speaker 8: Thanks?

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Speaker 2: Hey, you guys doing very good this afternoon. So what

479
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Speaker 2: was your technique to make sure the kids went to school?

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Speaker 13: So it was only my son. He was just lazy,

481
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Speaker 13: wouldn't get up. So I just got the water gun

482
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Speaker 13: and put fridge cold water in it, and I would

483
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Speaker 13: give them two chances. We always had a one, two

484
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Speaker 13: three rules, so through third one there's a consequence. So

485
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Speaker 13: fridge cold water got them up. Every single time you

486
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Speaker 13: have to touch them, you just got pulled. The sheeps

487
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Speaker 13: backed them with the water.

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Speaker 3: He's a three much a.

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Speaker 13: Girl get out of bed. If he got to that

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Speaker 13: three and he got the water gun, then I'd also

491
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Speaker 13: take his phone.

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Speaker 5: Off him for a week, right, Yeah, because once, yeah,

493
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Speaker 5: because once you have water gun then you're out of options, really,

494
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Speaker 5: aren't you except for the phone. That's that's smart. You

495
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Speaker 5: got to you got to keep escalating from the water gun.

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Speaker 13: So well you got both they got with the water

497
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Speaker 13: gun and the phone taken.

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Speaker 11: Not from them.

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Speaker 3: How often was he remember when.

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Speaker 13: Our dad used to chop thee the power chords on

501
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Speaker 13: the TV, them all off. You couldn't do anything. There

502
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Speaker 13: was nothing to do.

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Speaker 5: I remember because I remember when my kids, my parents

504
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Speaker 5: would come home and they check the TV. That immediately

505
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Speaker 5: put their hand on the top of the TV to

506
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Speaker 5: see how hot it was.

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Speaker 13: The things that you couldn't plug it in, so there's

508
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Speaker 13: nothing we could do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the old power cord on the TV.

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Speaker 2: M'm always threatened to do that and I thought, you

511
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Speaker 2: won't do that. That's an expensive TV, mum, and we

512
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Speaker 2: can't afford another TV. And then she did it, and

513
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Speaker 2: that was me thinking, Okay, I'm going to behave now

514
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Speaker 2: because I you know, I really needed that TV. Need

515
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Speaker 2: to take these.

516
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Speaker 13: Days, parents are just too soft on their kids, worried

517
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Speaker 13: about what John is going to think or do it.

518
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Speaker 13: It's like two keys, like you're a kids. There has

519
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Speaker 13: to be you know, consequences for your actions, and if

520
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Speaker 13: you don't and you need to follow through, you can't go.

521
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Speaker 13: If you don't do this, I'm going to do that.

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Speaker 13: If you keep doing that, they're just going to think

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Speaker 13: I won't do it. You actually have to have like

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Speaker 13: a strategy where you know, you get the three strike

525
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Speaker 13: rule and on the third strike, whatever you say you're

526
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Speaker 13: going to do, you have to follow through.

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Speaker 5: Lisa, how many times do you reckon? Did you you

528
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Speaker 5: followed through with the water gun?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's quite a few times. But it got them

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Speaker 13: out every single time and got out of bed also

532
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Speaker 13: when I threatened it and didn't have to use it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. But what type of water gun

534
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Speaker 5: are we talking here? Was it one of those huge,

535
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Speaker 5: really cool super soakers that you get.

536
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Speaker 13: No, that was just a little squirt gun from the warehouse.

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Speaker 13: It didn't take much because when you get fridge cold

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Speaker 13: water and your founder's sleep.

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Speaker 11: It's not good.

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Speaker 2: That would do the job.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of it works. I don't know what's the

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Speaker 5: current rule on and this is slightly off topic. Are

543
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Speaker 5: you supposed to spray dogs with cold water? Stills that

544
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Speaker 5: you're supposed to educate dogs because.

545
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Speaker 13: And cats because it doesn't hurt and they just don't.

546
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so dogs, cats and kids.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes husbands as well. Oh yeah, everything, Lisa, you're great,

548
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Speaker 2: Thanks for very very much for giving us a buzz.

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Speaker 2: All right, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. That is

550
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Speaker 2: a great technique. A bit of cold water to the face.

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Speaker 2: We'll get most people out of bed. But plenty of

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Speaker 2: teachs coming through on nine to ninety two.

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Speaker 5: A secondary school teacher here that the work with teenagers

554
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Speaker 5: is done when they are little two three, four five.

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Speaker 5: You need to establish that you are the parent and

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Speaker 5: the aar to do what they are told. Limit choices.

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Speaker 5: You also need to learn which battles to fight. Ig

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Speaker 5: let them get the piercing. But they must attend school.

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Speaker 5: That's an interesting one. And keep the lines of communication

560
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Speaker 5: open so they talk to you and tell you what's

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Speaker 5: going on if there's a real problem at school. As

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Speaker 5: a parent, you need to support your child, but keep

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Speaker 5: an open mind and be prepared to see things from

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Speaker 5: the school's perspective, but also keep advocating and supporting your child.

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Speaker 5: It is very hard doing that, though, if you haven't

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Speaker 5: laid the foundations as a parent when they are as

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Speaker 5: little as they need to be a give and take

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Speaker 5: from your child to be able to work through the

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Speaker 5: school problems when they are teenagers. Good luck to all

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Speaker 5: the parents out there. Thank you for that text, n

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Speaker 5: It's a fantastic text.

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Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: There's a few techs coming through and we'll read some

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Speaker 2: of those after the headlines about their children being bullied

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Speaker 2: and not wanting to go to school. And it took

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Speaker 2: them a bit of time to find out that information.

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Speaker 2: If you've been in that situation, really keen to hear

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Speaker 2: from you on oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and

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Speaker 2: what were your tips and tricks of getting your child

580
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Speaker 2: to go to school on a regular basis? If they

581
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Speaker 2: just liked a bit of a lion? It is twenty

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Speaker 2: five to two back fory surely here on news talks,

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Speaker 2: he'd b.

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Speaker 4: Jus talks.

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Speaker 14: He'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

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Speaker 14: with a blue bubble. New Zealand's COVID Response Inquiry has

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Speaker 14: begun its second phase, with public hearings and putting aspects

588
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Speaker 14: like vaccine mandates, testing and lockdowns under the microscope. Police.

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Speaker 14: A man who died on a hunting trip at an Akida,

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Speaker 14: Stuart Island on Saturday. Was reportedly shot. It's thought he

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Speaker 14: was among a party of nine. The Finance Minister says

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Speaker 14: the government spreading money for early childcare help further with

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Speaker 14: low numbers benefiting from the Family Boos scheme. The threshold

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Speaker 14: household income has risen to two hundred and twenty nine

595
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Speaker 14: thousand and the rebate for eligible families is now forty percent.

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Speaker 14: The Marty Law Society says Acts Regulatory Standards Bill was

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Speaker 14: conjured up by a minor party pushing its political waka

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Speaker 14: blind to political currents. Nelson Mayor Nick Smith says the

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Speaker 14: local state of emergency has been lifted for Nelson, Marlborough

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Speaker 14: and Tasman. An Auckland police constable is heading to Thailand

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Speaker 14: Miss Universe competition. Phil Gifford on the All Blacks rookie

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It's twenty one to two.

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Speaker 2: We are talking about getting your kids to schools. New

608
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Speaker 2: data shows thousands of kids haven't even been enrolled in

609
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Speaker 2: school form mone more than a year. And as we

610
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Speaker 2: talked about a little bit earlier this hour, Matt, I mean,

611
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Speaker 2: not enrolling your child in a school full stop is

612
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Speaker 2: pretty outrageous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like to get together the probably the top

614
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Speaker 5: five things you have to do as a parent, But

615
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Speaker 5: I think enrolling them in school would be one of

616
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Speaker 5: those things. Yeah, one of the absolutely. You know, you've

617
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Speaker 5: got to obviously feed them and put a roof over

618
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Speaker 5: their head and clothe them and house them, and but

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Speaker 5: schooling's got to be up there. Yeah, as something you

620
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Speaker 5: are a pretty lame parent if you are willing to

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Speaker 5: go through the admin and enroll your kids at school.

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Speaker 2: The old Maslow hierarchy. Absolutely, And we also talked about

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Speaker 2: because we had a lot of texts on about kids

624
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Speaker 2: who were getting bullied in school and the parents didn't

625
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Speaker 2: know about it, so they thought the kids just were

626
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Speaker 2: being difficult not going to school. This Texter, Hi, guys,

627
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Speaker 2: my daughter is getting bullied and a very unsympathetic teacher

628
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Speaker 2: so have told her she won't be in trouble if

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Speaker 2: she punched the boy and told her to do it

630
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Speaker 2: in front of people, but can be very difficult to

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Speaker 2: get to go to school.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I remember when I was first went to high school.

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Speaker 5: I came from a very different intermediate and I chose

635
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Speaker 5: to go to this high school because I wanted to

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Speaker 5: play basketball. It was the best basketball school whatever. And

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Speaker 5: I was getting massively bullied at school when I started,

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Speaker 5: just because I didn't know any kids and I was

639
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Speaker 5: a little kid when I started school had a massive

640
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Speaker 5: growth spurt. But I took the approach of just psychotic

641
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Speaker 5: violence against the bullies until it was sort of stop.

642
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Speaker 5: But I was terrified. I was terrified to go to

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Speaker 5: school for a while, you know, for the first few

644
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Speaker 5: months at that new school. But I'm not sure what

645
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Speaker 5: the best strategy is because that strategy might not That

646
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Speaker 5: strategy doesn't always work. I mean, it can blow back

647
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Speaker 5: in your face terribly.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I was lucky that that strategy worked for me, But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. And that is a real problem because

651
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Speaker 5: you know, your kid may seem to be very very difficult,

652
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Speaker 5: but you might be sending them into a hell hellish

653
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Speaker 5: situation at their school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes changing schools is not a strategy that worked.

655
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Speaker 2: So if you've been in that situation or currently in

656
00:29:10,853 --> 00:29:14,413
Speaker 2: that situation, your child is facing some pretty serious bullying

657
00:29:14,693 --> 00:29:16,573
Speaker 2: at their current school and is not wanting to go,

658
00:29:16,693 --> 00:29:18,213
Speaker 2: how are you dealing with it? Oh eight hundred and

659
00:29:18,213 --> 00:29:21,413
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Plenty of

660
00:29:21,493 --> 00:29:23,613
Speaker 2: texts coming through on nine two ninety two, but we're

661
00:29:23,613 --> 00:29:25,733
Speaker 2: a bit late. We'll play some messages and come back

662
00:29:25,733 --> 00:29:27,693
Speaker 2: with more of your calls. Love to hear your stories

663
00:29:27,693 --> 00:29:29,813
Speaker 2: on Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. What is

664
00:29:29,813 --> 00:29:31,213
Speaker 2: the best way to get your kid to go to

665
00:29:31,213 --> 00:29:34,413
Speaker 2: school on a regular basis? It is nineteen to two.

666
00:29:36,093 --> 00:29:39,533
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

667
00:29:39,853 --> 00:29:40,813
Speaker 1: everything in between.

668
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Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

669
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Speaker 2: They'd be very good afternoon to you, and we're talking

670
00:29:46,213 --> 00:29:48,133
Speaker 2: about what are the best tips and tricks to get

671
00:29:48,173 --> 00:29:50,493
Speaker 2: your kids to go to school on the regular basis.

672
00:29:50,493 --> 00:29:52,533
Speaker 2: It's on the back of new figures out that shows

673
00:29:52,533 --> 00:29:55,293
Speaker 2: thousands of kei we kids haven't even been enrolled in

674
00:29:55,573 --> 00:29:58,413
Speaker 2: school for more than a year. That is at the

675
00:29:58,493 --> 00:30:00,813
Speaker 2: extreme end, but no doubt about it, it can be

676
00:30:01,053 --> 00:30:05,933
Speaker 2: very hard yep for parents to get their kids to

677
00:30:05,973 --> 00:30:08,533
Speaker 2: school on a regular basis in twenty twenty five, any

678
00:30:08,573 --> 00:30:09,453
Speaker 2: a good teach coming.

679
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Speaker 5: Through with regards to kids not going to school. I

680
00:30:11,573 --> 00:30:14,133
Speaker 5: think the Dingle research it cracks me out. I mean,

681
00:30:14,133 --> 00:30:16,493
Speaker 5: I'm an immature person, but the fact it's called the

682
00:30:16,573 --> 00:30:22,213
Speaker 5: Dingle research lowes it's credibility anyway. So I think the

683
00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:25,533
Speaker 5: Dingle research mentioned lockdowns have an impact on student's attendants,

684
00:30:25,533 --> 00:30:28,013
Speaker 5: and I very much believe that lockdowns did impact students

685
00:30:28,093 --> 00:30:30,333
Speaker 5: going to school. But we need to remember and knowledge

686
00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:33,093
Speaker 5: that students in Auckland were most impacted by numerous lockdowns,

687
00:30:33,133 --> 00:30:36,173
Speaker 5: including the unnecessary long lockdown at the end of twenty

688
00:30:36,213 --> 00:30:39,533
Speaker 5: twenty one. Students in Auckland needed specific support support to

689
00:30:39,613 --> 00:30:44,973
Speaker 5: re engage with the schools. Yeah, I mean that incredibly

690
00:30:45,013 --> 00:30:49,133
Speaker 5: long lockdown in Auckland did a lot of damage to kids'

691
00:30:49,173 --> 00:30:51,653
Speaker 5: attendants to school and also the perception that you have

692
00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:55,053
Speaker 5: to go to school. Yeah, because as I was saying before,

693
00:30:55,213 --> 00:30:57,213
Speaker 5: with my kids, it was always you have to go

694
00:30:57,253 --> 00:30:59,173
Speaker 5: to school. And when I was a kid, my parents

695
00:30:59,213 --> 00:31:01,453
Speaker 5: there was a zero tolerance. You just went to school, right,

696
00:31:01,493 --> 00:31:04,533
Speaker 5: So you never, even at any point in your schooling career,

697
00:31:05,093 --> 00:31:07,733
Speaker 5: there was no debate about it at all, But then

698
00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:10,733
Speaker 5: we're the lockdowns. It came in, and then there was

699
00:31:10,773 --> 00:31:12,613
Speaker 5: sort of this push that going to school was suddenly

700
00:31:12,613 --> 00:31:14,533
Speaker 5: not the most important thing in the world, that there

701
00:31:14,533 --> 00:31:16,613
Speaker 5: were things that were more important than going to school,

702
00:31:16,613 --> 00:31:20,573
Speaker 5: which had never been never really been a discussion before.

703
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Speaker 2: In my opinion, it's a messive part of it. When

704
00:31:22,813 --> 00:31:25,733
Speaker 2: they had the ability to start to do some of

705
00:31:25,773 --> 00:31:29,453
Speaker 2: those elements and subjects from home. I imagine in children's mind,

706
00:31:29,493 --> 00:31:31,253
Speaker 2: they think, why can't I do this all the time,

707
00:31:31,293 --> 00:31:33,333
Speaker 2: even though we're trying to get back to normality here

708
00:31:33,533 --> 00:31:36,013
Speaker 2: and hopefully covids in the distance past. I imagine some

709
00:31:36,053 --> 00:31:38,093
Speaker 2: kids are thinking, I don't need to go to school anymore.

710
00:31:38,093 --> 00:31:39,533
Speaker 2: I can just see some of the stuff from home.

711
00:31:39,973 --> 00:31:42,893
Speaker 5: And also, you know, going to school is quite an

712
00:31:42,933 --> 00:31:45,413
Speaker 5: intense thing, and that's one of the reasons why we

713
00:31:45,453 --> 00:31:49,773
Speaker 5: go to school to socialize ourselves. But this goudden anxiety

714
00:31:49,813 --> 00:31:53,933
Speaker 5: inducing thing going to school every day and facing hundreds

715
00:31:53,933 --> 00:31:57,933
Speaker 5: and hundreds, potentially thousands of other students other students. But

716
00:31:58,413 --> 00:32:01,093
Speaker 5: you have to do it, and the more you do it,

717
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,333
Speaker 5: the better you are at dealing with it. But by

718
00:32:03,373 --> 00:32:05,573
Speaker 5: people not attending for a long time, I think they

719
00:32:05,653 --> 00:32:12,133
Speaker 5: lost those skills they became and correct hibernating in their house.

720
00:32:12,253 --> 00:32:14,733
Speaker 5: You know, they got used to hiding away from school.

721
00:32:15,013 --> 00:32:17,893
Speaker 5: But there's no doubt that school is quite an intense

722
00:32:17,893 --> 00:32:19,773
Speaker 5: thing for young people to approach. You know, you're walking

723
00:32:19,773 --> 00:32:22,573
Speaker 5: through the gates with hundreds and hundreds of kids. It's

724
00:32:22,613 --> 00:32:23,373
Speaker 5: quite an intense thing.

725
00:32:23,493 --> 00:32:26,613
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, this is a good text Fellas. I lent

726
00:32:26,693 --> 00:32:29,373
Speaker 2: my second TV to a good mate. His kids watched

727
00:32:29,413 --> 00:32:31,853
Speaker 2: it too often and didn't listen to him, so he

728
00:32:31,973 --> 00:32:34,373
Speaker 2: cut the plug off a week later and then threw

729
00:32:34,413 --> 00:32:36,773
Speaker 2: it away. And I'm an electrician, so not hard to repair.

730
00:32:36,853 --> 00:32:40,093
Speaker 2: My other TV then failed within a month, gutted. Not

731
00:32:40,213 --> 00:32:42,053
Speaker 2: hard to get my three kids to school. So feel

732
00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:44,533
Speaker 2: for the parents that battle as I see it daily.

733
00:32:44,853 --> 00:32:47,253
Speaker 2: And we talked to Lisa a little bit earlier, apparent

734
00:32:47,613 --> 00:32:50,293
Speaker 2: who that was the final step if you didn't go

735
00:32:50,293 --> 00:32:52,693
Speaker 2: to school, I'm going to cut the plug on the telly.

736
00:32:52,893 --> 00:32:56,253
Speaker 5: But that's hard, and the modern day version of that

737
00:32:56,413 --> 00:32:58,933
Speaker 5: is taking the internet router with you when you go

738
00:32:58,973 --> 00:33:01,053
Speaker 5: to work. So if your kids are going to stay

739
00:33:01,053 --> 00:33:03,493
Speaker 5: at home and not go to school for whatever reason,

740
00:33:03,613 --> 00:33:06,733
Speaker 5: even if they're sick, because it can't be fun to

741
00:33:06,773 --> 00:33:09,813
Speaker 5: be at home no matter what. And look, there's a

742
00:33:09,853 --> 00:33:12,293
Speaker 5: lot of support coming through for me pointing out that

743
00:33:12,293 --> 00:33:14,373
Speaker 5: the only decent thing to watch on TV when I

744
00:33:14,413 --> 00:33:17,013
Speaker 5: was a kid if you were at home was Arobic's

745
00:33:17,013 --> 00:33:19,613
Speaker 5: OZS Style. Yeah, there was a number of reasons for that,

746
00:33:20,053 --> 00:33:24,413
Speaker 5: but it can't be fun, right, So if they're home,

747
00:33:25,133 --> 00:33:26,813
Speaker 5: all you're doing. If you're home, you have to be

748
00:33:26,853 --> 00:33:30,653
Speaker 5: so sick that you're just lying in bed recovering. So

749
00:33:30,693 --> 00:33:32,493
Speaker 5: you've got to take that router out the door with you.

750
00:33:32,733 --> 00:33:36,453
Speaker 2: Exactly the dickster, says Matt. I told my physics teacher

751
00:33:36,493 --> 00:33:38,413
Speaker 2: one day that I had to leave class to go

752
00:33:38,453 --> 00:33:41,693
Speaker 2: to the police station to be fingerprinted for a murder investigation.

753
00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:44,493
Speaker 2: Instant attention for blatant lies. The principal got me out

754
00:33:44,533 --> 00:33:46,733
Speaker 2: of class. When the police came to pick me up,

755
00:33:46,773 --> 00:33:49,933
Speaker 2: still got detention. Classic to Meru, and that's a hell

756
00:33:49,933 --> 00:33:51,493
Speaker 2: of a strategy to get out of class.

757
00:33:51,773 --> 00:33:54,573
Speaker 5: Well, I had a friend who told the teacher that

758
00:33:55,053 --> 00:33:59,293
Speaker 5: their grandmother had died. Without realizing that the teacher small

759
00:33:59,333 --> 00:34:02,253
Speaker 5: town stuffed this that the teacher was really close to

760
00:34:02,293 --> 00:34:05,893
Speaker 5: the grandmother, and the teacher started crying, saying, oh no,

761
00:34:06,693 --> 00:34:11,053
Speaker 5: I'll no Mary's there is terrible life, terrible life.

762
00:34:10,853 --> 00:34:12,933
Speaker 2: That will do it though, Oh one hundred eighty ten

763
00:34:13,013 --> 00:34:16,053
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call. It is twelve to

764
00:34:16,053 --> 00:34:17,973
Speaker 2: two back very surely you're listening to Matt and Tyler

765
00:34:18,053 --> 00:34:19,133
Speaker 2: very good afternoons.

766
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Speaker 1: You Matteath Tylor Adams taking your calls on oh eight

767
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams

768
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Speaker 1: Afternoons News TALKSB.

769
00:34:29,893 --> 00:34:32,013
Speaker 2: News Talks there B and we have been talking about

770
00:34:32,053 --> 00:34:33,652
Speaker 2: what is the best way to make sure that your

771
00:34:33,733 --> 00:34:36,493
Speaker 2: children go to school on a regular basis. Some great

772
00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:37,893
Speaker 2: teachs coming through on nine two nine.

773
00:34:37,853 --> 00:34:40,453
Speaker 5: Two X cop here from South Auckland. We used to

774
00:34:40,493 --> 00:34:42,733
Speaker 5: get the kids down to the station so parents would

775
00:34:42,773 --> 00:34:45,533
Speaker 5: have to get off their backstards and do something otherwise

776
00:34:45,573 --> 00:34:48,853
Speaker 5: dropping them off at school as a band aid problem.

777
00:34:49,093 --> 00:34:50,853
Speaker 5: So what they pick up the kids taken to the

778
00:34:50,893 --> 00:34:52,573
Speaker 5: police station and ring the parents and say you're going

779
00:34:52,613 --> 00:34:53,813
Speaker 5: to have to get your kids from down here.

780
00:34:53,893 --> 00:34:55,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's more to call police and I love it.

781
00:34:56,053 --> 00:34:58,133
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm I'm sure I could find this out.

782
00:34:58,173 --> 00:34:59,253
Speaker 5: Someone might be able to tell me. On oh one

783
00:34:59,333 --> 00:35:01,213
Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two? But

784
00:35:01,293 --> 00:35:04,013
Speaker 5: what are the police's power? What power do the police

785
00:35:04,053 --> 00:35:06,693
Speaker 5: have to just because we had Lisa, was it Lisa?

786
00:35:06,893 --> 00:35:10,133
Speaker 5: I can't remember Miriam? Miriam, Yeah, who called the police

787
00:35:10,133 --> 00:35:12,813
Speaker 5: and to grab her daughter and take her to school? Yeah,

788
00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:15,013
Speaker 5: you know, take it to the police station if she didn't

789
00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:16,173
Speaker 5: go to school. So it'd be interested to know what

790
00:35:16,253 --> 00:35:19,133
Speaker 5: the powers the police have if a parent gets involved

791
00:35:19,173 --> 00:35:23,133
Speaker 5: in the school, gets involved to you know, enforce attendance.

792
00:35:24,613 --> 00:35:24,973
Speaker 2: One.

793
00:35:25,133 --> 00:35:27,453
Speaker 5: We absolutely struggled to get our daughter off to school.

794
00:35:27,533 --> 00:35:30,533
Speaker 5: Bribery works for us. We started pocket money twenty dollars

795
00:35:30,573 --> 00:35:32,933
Speaker 5: a week, only gets it if she goes every day

796
00:35:33,053 --> 00:35:36,772
Speaker 5: unless she is genuinely sick. Also, no screens after seven pm,

797
00:35:36,813 --> 00:35:40,133
Speaker 5: gets here into bed earlier. Yeah, it's a take strategy,

798
00:35:40,293 --> 00:35:41,933
Speaker 5: take the phone off them. Yeah kind of thing.

799
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,333
Speaker 2: Twenty bucks a week sounds pretty good. Get avon well

800
00:35:45,413 --> 00:35:46,253
Speaker 2: high sweetheart.

801
00:35:48,773 --> 00:35:51,652
Speaker 12: Our son's older and now I's forty seven. But he

802
00:35:52,773 --> 00:35:55,453
Speaker 12: his teacher rung and said he hadn't been to school

803
00:35:55,493 --> 00:35:58,013
Speaker 12: that day. And I went to and I said he

804
00:35:58,053 --> 00:36:01,813
Speaker 12: didn't go to school, haven't been for three days. My

805
00:36:01,933 --> 00:36:06,493
Speaker 12: husband was overseas at work, and I said, right, So

806
00:36:06,613 --> 00:36:11,133
Speaker 12: I wrung a friend who had a grainling business, and

807
00:36:11,333 --> 00:36:14,093
Speaker 12: I asked him if he'd take him out and show

808
00:36:14,173 --> 00:36:17,213
Speaker 12: him what he'd have to do laboring if he didn't

809
00:36:17,253 --> 00:36:22,212
Speaker 12: cut of school. So principal went along with that, and

810
00:36:23,413 --> 00:36:26,493
Speaker 12: within three days of hardly getting up the driveway at

811
00:36:26,493 --> 00:36:29,413
Speaker 12: the end of the day he said, Mama, never want

812
00:36:29,453 --> 00:36:33,533
Speaker 12: to be a laborer. And he's since done three America's

813
00:36:33,573 --> 00:36:37,013
Speaker 12: Cups and has his own business. So you just have

814
00:36:37,173 --> 00:36:41,213
Speaker 12: to give sometimes tough love. It was bloody hard, but

815
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:46,893
Speaker 12: it worked. And in English he but he just didn't

816
00:36:47,213 --> 00:36:47,853
Speaker 12: like school.

817
00:36:48,493 --> 00:36:52,613
Speaker 5: Now you obviously that that worked for you. What and

818
00:36:52,653 --> 00:36:54,772
Speaker 5: what capacity did he get involved in the America's Cup?

819
00:36:55,893 --> 00:36:59,973
Speaker 12: Well, he's a carbon fiber specialist. He did an apprenticeship.

820
00:37:00,213 --> 00:37:01,893
Speaker 12: I think that I said, you had to get an

821
00:37:01,933 --> 00:37:05,293
Speaker 12: apprenticeship where you can't leave school, which he was lucky

822
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:08,333
Speaker 12: to do because he was right with his maths and everything.

823
00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:12,813
Speaker 12: Never looked back since a sixteen year old told the world.

824
00:37:14,853 --> 00:37:19,293
Speaker 12: But he knows he knew then that I wasn't having it.

825
00:37:19,693 --> 00:37:22,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, but does he thank you vonn Does he ever

826
00:37:22,213 --> 00:37:24,732
Speaker 2: talk about but thank god you got me to school, mum,

827
00:37:24,733 --> 00:37:27,133
Speaker 2: because now I've got a fantastic job and get paid

828
00:37:27,133 --> 00:37:27,733
Speaker 2: pretty well.

829
00:37:28,933 --> 00:37:31,812
Speaker 12: We have a wonderful family and he has its own

830
00:37:31,853 --> 00:37:35,772
Speaker 12: business and he's amazing son. But he could have gone

831
00:37:35,853 --> 00:37:39,173
Speaker 12: the other way if we tuned, if Mahaby was away.

832
00:37:39,413 --> 00:37:41,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yvonne, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.

833
00:37:41,733 --> 00:37:42,493
Speaker 2: What a great story.

834
00:37:42,893 --> 00:37:45,053
Speaker 5: I don't think this text makes sense. Maybe the police

835
00:37:45,173 --> 00:37:46,933
Speaker 5: could shoot them if they don't tune up to school.

836
00:37:46,933 --> 00:37:50,973
Speaker 5: I think they would be kunter. That would be counterproductive. Yeah,

837
00:37:50,333 --> 00:37:52,333
Speaker 5: we're not talking about the police coming.

838
00:37:52,893 --> 00:37:56,053
Speaker 2: We need more babies in this country, not not Yes.

839
00:37:56,613 --> 00:37:57,373
Speaker 5: That's not a solution.

840
00:37:57,493 --> 00:38:01,493
Speaker 2: Anyone suggested this Textas says guy speaking as a kid

841
00:38:01,533 --> 00:38:04,933
Speaker 2: that was bullied and forced to go to school regardless

842
00:38:05,013 --> 00:38:09,333
Speaker 2: move to a predominantly white high school. The first months

843
00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:12,813
Speaker 2: was how hiding and toilets during class just to not

844
00:38:12,813 --> 00:38:14,692
Speaker 2: feel like I didn't belong. No one wanted to get

845
00:38:14,733 --> 00:38:17,213
Speaker 2: to know me. Luckily, I was happy with my own company,

846
00:38:17,413 --> 00:38:20,933
Speaker 2: tool pretty sporty, and things change quickly. Not long after.

847
00:38:21,093 --> 00:38:23,773
Speaker 2: I always look back disappointed and my parents who forced

848
00:38:23,773 --> 00:38:25,692
Speaker 2: me to go regardless. I really tried to fit in,

849
00:38:25,973 --> 00:38:28,493
Speaker 2: but even when I did, I still didn't feel like

850
00:38:28,573 --> 00:38:29,413
Speaker 2: I did Well.

851
00:38:29,413 --> 00:38:32,573
Speaker 5: That's what the teacher said that texted before that communication

852
00:38:32,733 --> 00:38:34,933
Speaker 5: with your kids, because you know, you want your kids

853
00:38:34,973 --> 00:38:36,333
Speaker 5: to go to school, but you don't want your kids

854
00:38:36,373 --> 00:38:38,533
Speaker 5: to go to school and get horribly bullied, so you

855
00:38:38,613 --> 00:38:41,893
Speaker 5: need to know that information. So I guess as a parent,

856
00:38:41,973 --> 00:38:44,253
Speaker 5: you need to have great if you can communication with

857
00:38:44,293 --> 00:38:47,893
Speaker 5: your kids, but also great communication with your schools. And

858
00:38:48,253 --> 00:38:50,093
Speaker 5: if there's just no way to solve the problem at

859
00:38:50,133 --> 00:38:53,613
Speaker 5: that particular school, then you've got a lot to move them, right.

860
00:38:53,773 --> 00:38:58,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And this text, guys, this discussion is out

861
00:38:58,373 --> 00:39:01,853
Speaker 2: of balance. Some of us absolutely love school and have

862
00:39:02,013 --> 00:39:04,293
Speaker 2: no trouble dealing with bullying. Absolutely.

863
00:39:04,653 --> 00:39:10,413
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, of course, I mean you get yeah,

864
00:39:10,653 --> 00:39:13,333
Speaker 5: of course, of course some people absolutely love school and

865
00:39:13,373 --> 00:39:16,733
Speaker 5: have no problem with bulling. That is not out of balance.

866
00:39:16,733 --> 00:39:19,133
Speaker 5: We're talking about the problem part of the situation, as

867
00:39:19,173 --> 00:39:21,973
Speaker 5: you often end up doing in talk back. You'll talk

868
00:39:21,973 --> 00:39:24,613
Speaker 5: about things that you want to fix, yeap, not things

869
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Speaker 5: that don't need to be fixed.

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Speaker 2: Exactly one hundred percent. Hey, thank you to everybody who

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Speaker 2: phoned and text on that discussion. Really enjoyed that, and

872
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Speaker 2: coming up after two o'clock this will be an interesting

873
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Speaker 2: chat as well. A gruesome story out of Australia. A

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Speaker 2: woman attacked by a lion at an Australian zoo. It

875
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Speaker 2: appears she was an employee. But we want to talk

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Speaker 2: about zoos in general. How do you perceive zoos in

877
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Many are controversial, but there is a

878
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Speaker 2: growing for a growing school of thought Rather about the

879
00:39:53,413 --> 00:39:55,333
Speaker 2: cruelty of some of the zoos or do you think

880
00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:57,813
Speaker 2: they're amazing and they contribute a lot to what we

881
00:39:57,893 --> 00:40:00,373
Speaker 2: know about animals and biology. Oh eight one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call New Sport

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Speaker 2: and weather coming up. Great to have your company as always.

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Speaker 2: You're listening about and Tyler, very good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Cheers talking with you all. Afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be very good afternoon, Chier, welcome back into the program.

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00:40:26,413 --> 00:40:30,652
Speaker 2: Great to have your company as always. Matt is broadcasting

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Speaker 2: from the Dunedin studio today and we might be having

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Speaker 2: a few greenlins in the system, but he's in a

891
00:40:37,973 --> 00:40:41,413
Speaker 2: beautiful studio color in Pj's studio from the Hats and

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Speaker 2: was loving it. But we've just lost connection, I think,

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Speaker 2: so we'll just restart now.

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Speaker 5: I'm back, buddy, he's back. I just put my coffee

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Speaker 5: down on the off button. Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: No, I know that's right. I thought you were having

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Speaker 2: a mouthful of cheese roll there, but just.

898
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Speaker 5: Looking at the beautiful view in Dnean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: If anyone boy cheese rolls, can I just say that,

901
00:41:02,733 --> 00:41:06,293
Speaker 5: don't get clevel with your cheese roll. Just a standard

902
00:41:06,293 --> 00:41:08,213
Speaker 5: there's a very standard way a cheese roll has to be.

903
00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:09,693
Speaker 5: And as I was saying before on the show, I

904
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Speaker 5: was dipping cheese rolls and seafood chowder just just two

905
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Speaker 5: days ago, and it was one of the great experience,

906
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Speaker 5: one of the cuisine experiences you'll ever have. And also

907
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Speaker 5: they do a great mutton pie down here in my

908
00:41:19,773 --> 00:41:22,173
Speaker 5: hometown in the chop Suey Patty.

909
00:41:22,293 --> 00:41:24,013
Speaker 2: You took a lot of photos outside the bakery, the

910
00:41:24,053 --> 00:41:26,933
Speaker 2: mud and pie shop. Yeah, whole series.

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00:41:27,413 --> 00:41:29,893
Speaker 5: Absolutely love it. Hey, before we go on and just

912
00:41:30,053 --> 00:41:35,652
Speaker 5: speaking about food. So before we left this show last

913
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Speaker 5: week because I had a media blackout because I like

914
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Speaker 5: to take a break. You know, on the show you

915
00:41:39,373 --> 00:41:41,293
Speaker 5: need to be across the issues. But it's quite nice

916
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Speaker 5: to take a break, right.

917
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Speaker 2: It is raw, donnin I think is what it's yeah.

918
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so just before we left, we had that

919
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Speaker 5: big discussion about the mushroom woman and the beef Wellington

920
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Speaker 5: and then I checked back in after being off news

921
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Speaker 5: for a week and find out they didn't. We were like,

922
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Speaker 5: they were going to be an out in forty five minutes,

923
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Speaker 5: but they still haven't had a verdict on the mushroom woman.

924
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Speaker 2: Still going How crazy is that? Because yeah, generally, and

925
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Speaker 2: that's what a lot of people thought. The gentleman we

926
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Speaker 2: chetted too over in Perth he said, Yep. The idea

927
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Speaker 2: is that they're going to be in and out pretty

928
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Speaker 2: fast once the judge sums up. But they are still deliberating.

929
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, if you're the defense, you like that, don't you. Yeah.

930
00:42:17,773 --> 00:42:20,413
Speaker 5: The longer they deliberate, the more chance it seems that

931
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Speaker 5: you'll get away with it.

932
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if that news comes to hands, you will hear

933
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Speaker 2: it here first on News Talk ZB. We are all

934
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Speaker 2: looking forward to the jury coming out and delivering their

935
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Speaker 2: verdict on the mushroom cock. But in the meantime, let's

936
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Speaker 2: have a chat about zoos and sticking with Australia, a

937
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Speaker 2: woman in her fifties was rushed to hospital after sustaining

938
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Speaker 2: significant injuries from a line attack at darling Down Zoo.

939
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Speaker 2: This is a popular wildlife park near to Woomba. It's

940
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Speaker 2: understood the woman she was an employee of the zoo

941
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Speaker 2: and she lost her arm in the attack. They are

942
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Speaker 2: the reports coming from Australian media. That is horrific and

943
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Speaker 2: a very gruesome situation. But when it comes to a line, Matt,

944
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Speaker 2: I think you can kind of expect that if it

945
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Speaker 2: comes for you.

946
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. So these were promoted as supervised lion encounters.

947
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Speaker 5: My thing with the lions, they had dangerous animals and

948
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Speaker 5: if they rip your arm off then that's just a

949
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Speaker 5: lion being a lion. You cannot blame the lion for

950
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Speaker 5: doing that. Can No, That's that's what they do. That's

951
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Speaker 5: that's human era. But zoos in general, because I know,

952
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Speaker 5: you know, more and more people are just absolutely hating zoos.

953
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Speaker 5: I've got friends that will just not go to a zoo.

954
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Speaker 5: Whereas I love a zoo. I think a well run zoo,

955
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Speaker 5: I'm thinking of Auckland Zoo. What are some of the

956
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Speaker 5: other great zoos in New Zealand. I think a zoo

957
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Speaker 5: like that is fantastic.

958
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Speaker 2: I think Wellington zoo's probably up there.

959
00:43:42,293 --> 00:43:44,773
Speaker 5: I mean education for kids, the wonder you see in

960
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Speaker 5: the eyes. They do a very good job of looking

961
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Speaker 5: after animals. Is this conservation taking place? You know, you're

962
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Speaker 5: keeping you're keeping animals, engaging animals alive. I think a

963
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Speaker 5: well run zoo is a fantastic thing. But what do

964
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Speaker 5: you think, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, do

965
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Speaker 5: you think that zoos are cruel and we should shut

966
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Speaker 5: just shut them down? Or do you think zoos are

967
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Speaker 5: awesome and a fantastic experience that all humans should appreciate.

968
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Speaker 5: There's a two poles you can have. You can have

969
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Speaker 5: an opinion in the middle of that as well.

970
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I am torn when it comes to zoos,

971
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Speaker 2: and I think you're right. Auckland Zoo is a phenomenal

972
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Speaker 2: zoo and they do things very well there. But and

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to name them, but I've been to

974
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Speaker 2: some zoos in the past here in New Zealand, and

975
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Speaker 2: I think they've changed their ways. But I've seen animals

976
00:44:31,293 --> 00:44:35,053
Speaker 2: where I see, you know, they look sad and they

977
00:44:35,133 --> 00:44:39,173
Speaker 2: look like they are incredibly bored. And these are majestic animals,

978
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Speaker 2: and I look at that and I think I hate that.

979
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Speaker 2: I actually want to see you break out of that

980
00:44:45,853 --> 00:44:48,212
Speaker 2: cage and maybe take down a few people as well,

981
00:44:48,253 --> 00:44:52,453
Speaker 2: because that's what you were bred to do. But then, yeah, again,

982
00:44:52,493 --> 00:44:55,453
Speaker 2: you look at the Auckland Zoo and what they do

983
00:44:55,573 --> 00:44:59,413
Speaker 2: for animal conservation is a huge benefit. And I think

984
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Speaker 2: Auckland Zoo get it right with the African animals. They've got,

985
00:45:03,213 --> 00:45:06,693
Speaker 2: they've got the space there, they're entertained, they've got enough

986
00:45:06,733 --> 00:45:09,733
Speaker 2: there that they're not going insane. But some of these

987
00:45:09,853 --> 00:45:12,893
Speaker 2: zoos in places like I don't know, like dan Quite

988
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Speaker 2: for example.

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Speaker 5: I think we'd all agree that keeping a wild animal

990
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Speaker 5: in a small cage is an evil thing to do,

991
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Speaker 5: but that's not what most modern zoos are. Like most

992
00:45:22,893 --> 00:45:27,733
Speaker 5: modern zoos, there's people that are experts on animal welfare

993
00:45:27,773 --> 00:45:30,533
Speaker 5: that thoroughly care about the animals and are AlwaysOn trying

994
00:45:30,573 --> 00:45:33,613
Speaker 5: to make their enclosures the best possible thing. And what

995
00:45:33,653 --> 00:45:35,172
Speaker 5: are you supposed to do if you want to see

996
00:45:35,173 --> 00:45:37,652
Speaker 5: a draft and you live in New Zealand unless there's

997
00:45:37,653 --> 00:45:39,893
Speaker 5: a zoo. Yeah, you know, not all of us can

998
00:45:39,893 --> 00:45:42,373
Speaker 5: get over to their natural habitats at a point. And

999
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Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of humans, and I think humans

1000
00:45:45,733 --> 00:45:47,772
Speaker 5: you know, if you're as you're growing up as a kid,

1001
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Speaker 5: what's one of the first things that kids get absolutely

1002
00:45:50,013 --> 00:45:53,333
Speaker 5: obsessed with. It's all the animals. It's the drafts, it's

1003
00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:58,133
Speaker 5: the elephants, it's the hippos, it's the zebras, it's the kangaroos,

1004
00:45:58,733 --> 00:46:01,533
Speaker 5: all the interesting animals of the world. It just fills

1005
00:46:02,013 --> 00:46:06,093
Speaker 5: there's something very very instinctual for children to just be

1006
00:46:06,173 --> 00:46:08,652
Speaker 5: really focused on animals. And then they get onto dinosaurs well,

1007
00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:11,493
Speaker 5: which is harder to visit. And we all see what

1008
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Speaker 5: happens when you run a dinosaur zoo, judging by the

1009
00:46:14,293 --> 00:46:16,253
Speaker 5: new Jurassic Park movie that's in the theaters at the moment.

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00:46:16,573 --> 00:46:18,573
Speaker 5: But you know, you know what I'm saying, it's it's

1011
00:46:19,093 --> 00:46:22,733
Speaker 5: a wonderful experience for children to go and see these animals.

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00:46:22,773 --> 00:46:24,692
Speaker 5: And I think it's I think, you know, if it's

1013
00:46:25,613 --> 00:46:27,333
Speaker 5: done well, then it's just a fantastic thing.

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00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:29,373
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, then you know, you look at the late

1015
00:46:29,413 --> 00:46:34,333
Speaker 2: great Steve Irwin, who did incredible things for animal conservation,

1016
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Speaker 2: but he was running Australia zoo and.

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Speaker 5: Then what did the animals do to say thank you?

1018
00:46:38,893 --> 00:46:41,453
Speaker 5: You know, what did the sting rays to do?

1019
00:46:41,653 --> 00:46:43,413
Speaker 2: What the rays do Did he even stick ray on

1020
00:46:43,453 --> 00:46:44,133
Speaker 2: the zoo baby?

1021
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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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00:46:44,533 --> 00:46:48,293
Speaker 5: No, maybe not. Hate zoos, says this text. No breeding

1023
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Speaker 5: in captivity only engined and orphan animals only, says this text.

1024
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, and a lot of people would agree with that. Oh,

1025
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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 5: This is a good point. Zoos aren't cruel, Matt. You

1027
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Speaker 5: go to africancy animals being killed and eating alive slowly.

1028
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Speaker 5: I mean that's a really good point. It's not all

1029
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:06,533
Speaker 5: fun and games out on the savannah.

1030
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Survival of the Fittest. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1031
00:47:09,693 --> 00:47:11,973
Speaker 2: is the number to call. Are you a massive fan

1032
00:47:12,013 --> 00:47:14,453
Speaker 2: of zoos or do you think they can be a

1033
00:47:14,453 --> 00:47:16,773
Speaker 2: bit cruel? Love to hear from you. It is thirteen

1034
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Speaker 2: past two.

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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons

1036
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Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

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Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you, sixteen past two. We're talking

1038
00:47:31,293 --> 00:47:33,813
Speaker 2: about zoos. Are they cruel or are they awesome? Love

1039
00:47:33,853 --> 00:47:36,293
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1040
00:47:36,413 --> 00:47:39,172
Speaker 2: Some good texts coming through on nine to ninety two.

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Speaker 2: This one says guys take the zoo out of Wellington

1042
00:47:43,133 --> 00:47:46,773
Speaker 2: and expense for both animals and humans where the zoo is.

1043
00:47:46,813 --> 00:47:49,133
Speaker 2: I always thought Peter Jackson, a wetter can create a

1044
00:47:49,173 --> 00:47:51,013
Speaker 2: Traassic Park theme zoo from Lee.

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Speaker 5: It's an interesting idea, but they have to be real animals.

1046
00:47:54,853 --> 00:47:57,733
Speaker 5: You could have animatronic animals. I guess that's what you're

1047
00:47:57,773 --> 00:47:59,933
Speaker 5: kind of suggesting that you could that Peter Jackson could

1048
00:47:59,973 --> 00:48:03,013
Speaker 5: whip up a zoo where it appeared to be drafts

1049
00:48:03,053 --> 00:48:05,212
Speaker 5: and hippopotami.

1050
00:48:05,573 --> 00:48:06,773
Speaker 2: Yep, I think that it works.

1051
00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:12,933
Speaker 5: Hippopotamuses, hippot of us, hippopotami, hippotomi. I'll tell you what.

1052
00:48:12,973 --> 00:48:15,653
Speaker 5: Hippopotami are a slightly boring animal to see at the

1053
00:48:15,693 --> 00:48:17,212
Speaker 5: zoo because you just see the top of the head

1054
00:48:17,253 --> 00:48:22,053
Speaker 5: of the hippopotamus often, although famously hippopotamus did swim out

1055
00:48:22,053 --> 00:48:25,652
Speaker 5: of Auckland zoo really and flooding and ended up, you know,

1056
00:48:25,733 --> 00:48:27,413
Speaker 5: running around Western Springs back in the day.

1057
00:48:27,653 --> 00:48:31,133
Speaker 2: Is that right, I've never heard that story. Yeah, hippopotamus

1058
00:48:31,173 --> 00:48:35,613
Speaker 2: live in Auckland. Eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Lorraine.

1059
00:48:35,613 --> 00:48:36,053
Speaker 2: How are you?

1060
00:48:37,293 --> 00:48:37,732
Speaker 16: I'm good?

1061
00:48:37,773 --> 00:48:40,853
Speaker 2: How are you very good? What do you think about zoos.

1062
00:48:41,893 --> 00:48:45,893
Speaker 2: I hate them and why.

1063
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Speaker 16: I just think it's cruel. I mean, I understand that

1064
00:48:49,133 --> 00:48:52,693
Speaker 16: people want to see animals, but I think it's cruel

1065
00:48:52,893 --> 00:48:57,573
Speaker 16: that they're in captivity for human and children's entertainments. And

1066
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Speaker 16: like you said, the kids love dinosaurs as well. They

1067
00:49:01,573 --> 00:49:03,453
Speaker 16: don't get to see them in real life, it doesn't

1068
00:49:03,493 --> 00:49:05,812
Speaker 16: mean they can't still get some joy out.

1069
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Speaker 3: Of learning about them.

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Speaker 16: I think that that hippopotamus did the right thing, and

1071
00:49:11,453 --> 00:49:13,373
Speaker 16: if he's prepared to swim out of a zoo, it

1072
00:49:13,453 --> 00:49:15,533
Speaker 16: just goes to show none of them like it in there.

1073
00:49:16,373 --> 00:49:18,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, a great escape? Yeah yeah.

1074
00:49:19,013 --> 00:49:21,373
Speaker 5: Is there any kind of Is there any kind of

1075
00:49:21,493 --> 00:49:25,293
Speaker 5: size of zoo that you would think was okay? And

1076
00:49:25,333 --> 00:49:27,093
Speaker 5: are there any kind of animals that you think are

1077
00:49:27,133 --> 00:49:28,853
Speaker 5: better suited to a zoo environment?

1078
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Speaker 16: Probably not, because if you opened all the doors like

1079
00:49:34,133 --> 00:49:37,093
Speaker 16: that hippo, they would all run off. They'd all take off.

1080
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Speaker 16: They don't like it there, don't want to stay there.

1081
00:49:40,133 --> 00:49:44,373
Speaker 16: I mean a lot of them is, particularly lions and tigers.

1082
00:49:44,413 --> 00:49:45,253
Speaker 13: They're meant to be out in.

1083
00:49:45,253 --> 00:49:48,373
Speaker 16: The world, running free, and you know, I know that

1084
00:49:48,453 --> 00:49:51,613
Speaker 16: there's problems in their natural habitat where they are killed

1085
00:49:51,653 --> 00:49:55,252
Speaker 16: and poached, But does that mean we get to lock

1086
00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:58,093
Speaker 16: them up, imprison them basically for their lives, just for

1087
00:49:58,213 --> 00:49:59,133
Speaker 16: our entertainments.

1088
00:49:59,733 --> 00:50:02,933
Speaker 5: What do you think about the conservation of animals and

1089
00:50:03,213 --> 00:50:06,853
Speaker 5: the role that zoos play and keeping these animals alive.

1090
00:50:09,373 --> 00:50:12,773
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean that there are areas for it, like

1091
00:50:12,813 --> 00:50:19,133
Speaker 16: the kiwied breeding kiwi and trying to keep species alive

1092
00:50:19,173 --> 00:50:23,133
Speaker 16: and going. I think that that's fine. But if you're

1093
00:50:23,213 --> 00:50:26,013
Speaker 16: just locking them up for people's entertainment, like seals, they're

1094
00:50:26,013 --> 00:50:29,733
Speaker 16: not endangered, I don't think. And they're all trapped in

1095
00:50:29,773 --> 00:50:31,253
Speaker 16: a swimming pool at the zoo.

1096
00:50:31,853 --> 00:50:35,453
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty cool though watching them swim past. You

1097
00:50:35,493 --> 00:50:37,173
Speaker 5: know that they look like they're having a lot of

1098
00:50:37,173 --> 00:50:38,693
Speaker 5: fun in the in the pool that they have at

1099
00:50:38,733 --> 00:50:41,493
Speaker 5: Auckland Zoo. Anyway, it seems like quite a spacious environment

1100
00:50:41,533 --> 00:50:42,693
Speaker 5: for them.

1101
00:50:43,093 --> 00:50:45,493
Speaker 16: But I'd say if there was another flood and they

1102
00:50:45,533 --> 00:50:48,573
Speaker 16: got to swim out like the hippo diad, they would Yeah.

1103
00:50:48,813 --> 00:50:50,693
Speaker 5: What do he said? But you could say that about

1104
00:50:51,053 --> 00:50:54,613
Speaker 5: a dog, right, So if you know, you we have dogs,

1105
00:50:55,093 --> 00:50:58,373
Speaker 5: and we you do them and then we lock them

1106
00:50:58,493 --> 00:51:01,933
Speaker 5: in our homes. But dogs seem pretty pretty happy, don't

1107
00:51:01,973 --> 00:51:04,133
Speaker 5: they living with humans?

1108
00:51:04,493 --> 00:51:07,693
Speaker 16: I think so most dogs, if you open the front door,

1109
00:51:08,533 --> 00:51:11,613
Speaker 16: dogs will listen to you and come back. Some particularly husky,

1110
00:51:12,053 --> 00:51:14,333
Speaker 16: they'll do a runner and they won't come back until

1111
00:51:14,333 --> 00:51:18,493
Speaker 16: you catch them. Yeah, so I guess that there's the

1112
00:51:18,653 --> 00:51:21,053
Speaker 16: rare breeds that do take off and run off and

1113
00:51:21,173 --> 00:51:27,212
Speaker 16: roam and try and escape, But most dogs, I think

1114
00:51:27,413 --> 00:51:28,213
Speaker 16: would go home.

1115
00:51:28,573 --> 00:51:28,732
Speaker 17: Well.

1116
00:51:28,733 --> 00:51:31,173
Speaker 5: I was actually thinking about this the other day, laaring

1117
00:51:32,053 --> 00:51:35,053
Speaker 5: what animals you can actually domesticate, and there aren't. There

1118
00:51:35,093 --> 00:51:37,613
Speaker 5: aren't a lot of animals really that you can. You know,

1119
00:51:37,653 --> 00:51:39,652
Speaker 5: you can't keep a possum in your house. You know,

1120
00:51:39,653 --> 00:51:41,893
Speaker 5: you can try, but it gets crazy. You know, there's

1121
00:51:41,893 --> 00:51:44,893
Speaker 5: that documentary Inflix about people that try and keep chimpanzees

1122
00:51:45,533 --> 00:51:49,053
Speaker 5: and that when they get big there that's an absolute disaster.

1123
00:51:49,693 --> 00:51:52,613
Speaker 5: So dogs, and then the thing, there's that relationship we

1124
00:51:52,653 --> 00:51:55,133
Speaker 5: have with dogs. Dogs love humans, humans love dogs, you know,

1125
00:51:55,813 --> 00:51:57,693
Speaker 5: man's best friend kind of thing. There is a special

1126
00:51:57,733 --> 00:52:00,253
Speaker 5: relationship there where they're very happy to be with humans.

1127
00:52:00,253 --> 00:52:03,373
Speaker 5: You definitely can't have a tiger in your house.

1128
00:52:04,533 --> 00:52:06,933
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, when you get home from work, if

1129
00:52:06,973 --> 00:52:09,172
Speaker 16: you leave your dog at home while you're at work,

1130
00:52:09,253 --> 00:52:10,693
Speaker 16: or you go out for a few hours, when you

1131
00:52:10,733 --> 00:52:12,133
Speaker 16: get home, he's really happy.

1132
00:52:12,653 --> 00:52:15,292
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you lift a tiger when you got home.

1133
00:52:16,373 --> 00:52:18,013
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you get.

1134
00:52:17,853 --> 00:52:19,333
Speaker 5: Home and the tiger would beppy because they would have

1135
00:52:19,373 --> 00:52:19,773
Speaker 5: something to.

1136
00:52:19,693 --> 00:52:25,533
Speaker 16: Eat exactly preferably you, I would imagine.

1137
00:52:25,973 --> 00:52:30,053
Speaker 5: But what about the wonder that kids when they see

1138
00:52:30,093 --> 00:52:33,533
Speaker 5: these animals, and that could lead to them understanding the

1139
00:52:33,613 --> 00:52:37,053
Speaker 5: natural world and maybe doing more to help with the

1140
00:52:37,133 --> 00:52:40,373
Speaker 5: natural world as they get older, getting to see these animals.

1141
00:52:40,373 --> 00:52:41,652
Speaker 5: Can you see that argument at all?

1142
00:52:41,813 --> 00:52:45,013
Speaker 16: All right, No, I don't think that they have to

1143
00:52:45,053 --> 00:52:47,453
Speaker 16: see them in person to learn about them. I mean,

1144
00:52:47,773 --> 00:52:52,172
Speaker 16: a lot of kids are really upon things with dinosaurs

1145
00:52:51,773 --> 00:52:54,853
Speaker 16: and how they lived and operated, and not one of

1146
00:52:54,893 --> 00:52:56,853
Speaker 16: them has seen one in person.

1147
00:52:58,093 --> 00:53:01,733
Speaker 2: What about a wildlife? So many sorry, finishing, so.

1148
00:53:01,573 --> 00:53:07,773
Speaker 16: Many learning activities and availability to information these days, they

1149
00:53:07,853 --> 00:53:08,853
Speaker 16: can learn it elsewhere.

1150
00:53:09,253 --> 00:53:11,613
Speaker 5: Do you think that a zebra's life and a zoo, though,

1151
00:53:11,933 --> 00:53:15,053
Speaker 5: might be better than a zebra's life out in the wild,

1152
00:53:15,173 --> 00:53:16,853
Speaker 5: because a zebra's life out in the wild. As you

1153
00:53:16,893 --> 00:53:18,693
Speaker 5: run around for a bit, you look pretty cool, you

1154
00:53:18,693 --> 00:53:21,413
Speaker 5: you know, look like a predestrian costume for a while,

1155
00:53:21,813 --> 00:53:24,813
Speaker 5: and then you get eaten and you die eaten by line.

1156
00:53:25,053 --> 00:53:31,013
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure how many how many zebras

1157
00:53:31,093 --> 00:53:35,333
Speaker 16: do come to that demise? I mean, line numbers are

1158
00:53:35,333 --> 00:53:38,613
Speaker 16: probably a lot less than gazelle's and zebras. And no,

1159
00:53:38,853 --> 00:53:41,653
Speaker 16: I don't think that i'd rather if I was a zebra.

1160
00:53:41,893 --> 00:53:44,613
Speaker 16: I would rather have a short, happy, free life than

1161
00:53:44,653 --> 00:53:48,413
Speaker 16: a long, miserable, drawn out, paged life.

1162
00:53:48,613 --> 00:53:50,652
Speaker 5: Okay, well, thank you so much for your call. We

1163
00:53:50,693 --> 00:53:55,373
Speaker 5: appreciate that supplementary question. Why is it that we can't

1164
00:53:55,373 --> 00:53:59,813
Speaker 5: domesticate zebras and ride them around horses?

1165
00:53:59,853 --> 00:54:03,053
Speaker 2: I'd love to ride a zebra quite small horses?

1166
00:54:03,573 --> 00:54:05,773
Speaker 5: Is this something? Are they not horses? Actually? I should

1167
00:54:05,773 --> 00:54:08,053
Speaker 5: look into the investigate and find out why we don't

1168
00:54:08,093 --> 00:54:10,093
Speaker 5: have because it seems to me that it would be

1169
00:54:10,093 --> 00:54:11,652
Speaker 5: pretty cool to be riding around on a zebra.

1170
00:54:11,773 --> 00:54:14,053
Speaker 2: Just googling how much can a zebra carry? We'll come

1171
00:54:14,093 --> 00:54:15,893
Speaker 2: back with that. It's a very shortly.

1172
00:54:15,933 --> 00:54:20,213
Speaker 5: Second kiss question. Is it zebra or zebra? Zebra? I

1173
00:54:20,253 --> 00:54:21,373
Speaker 5: think it's zebra in New Zealand.

1174
00:54:21,373 --> 00:54:23,453
Speaker 2: I'm going to go zebra nine nine to if you

1175
00:54:23,453 --> 00:54:25,813
Speaker 2: want to correct me. It's twenty three pasts two.

1176
00:54:30,133 --> 00:54:33,493
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1177
00:54:33,493 --> 00:54:35,693
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on used Talk ZB.

1178
00:54:35,893 --> 00:54:38,493
Speaker 2: Twenty five pasts two, and we are talking about zoos.

1179
00:54:38,493 --> 00:54:40,613
Speaker 2: Do you think they are awesome or do you think

1180
00:54:40,853 --> 00:54:42,692
Speaker 2: the majority of them are cruel?

1181
00:54:43,013 --> 00:54:46,853
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an interesting one. This Texas says that this

1182
00:54:46,933 --> 00:54:49,013
Speaker 5: caller is bonkers talking about our last call that was

1183
00:54:49,093 --> 00:54:52,613
Speaker 5: very anti zoos, saying that animals don't know they're in captivity.

1184
00:54:53,613 --> 00:54:56,293
Speaker 5: I mean it's a good point. But the drafts at

1185
00:54:56,373 --> 00:54:59,813
Speaker 5: Auckland Zoo, they don't go, we're in captivity. They go,

1186
00:55:00,053 --> 00:55:02,853
Speaker 5: we're in this enclosure, We run round, this is our

1187
00:55:02,973 --> 00:55:07,093
Speaker 5: environment and people feed us every day. Yeah, I mean

1188
00:55:07,093 --> 00:55:10,533
Speaker 5: it's pretty great. What does an animal primarily want? They

1189
00:55:10,613 --> 00:55:12,573
Speaker 5: maybe they want some space to run around and do

1190
00:55:12,613 --> 00:55:16,173
Speaker 5: their animal stuff, but they also primarily, in my opinion,

1191
00:55:17,253 --> 00:55:20,772
Speaker 5: my hugely informed opinion, want something to eat.

1192
00:55:21,373 --> 00:55:21,573
Speaker 4: You know.

1193
00:55:22,133 --> 00:55:24,093
Speaker 5: That's most of what they want to do is eat

1194
00:55:24,093 --> 00:55:25,013
Speaker 5: something every day.

1195
00:55:25,013 --> 00:55:26,933
Speaker 2: Eat and make love. I don't know if animals call

1196
00:55:26,933 --> 00:55:29,573
Speaker 2: it make love, but that's a good point. And we've

1197
00:55:29,573 --> 00:55:32,053
Speaker 2: done a deep dive into zebras.

1198
00:55:32,733 --> 00:55:36,093
Speaker 5: That's I asked the question, why aren't they why don't

1199
00:55:36,093 --> 00:55:38,293
Speaker 5: we ride them around like horses? And so the key

1200
00:55:38,373 --> 00:55:42,212
Speaker 5: criteria for domestication is capability to breed in captivity, non

1201
00:55:42,253 --> 00:55:45,733
Speaker 5: picky eaters. That's important. Social hierarchy. A clear social structure

1202
00:55:45,733 --> 00:55:49,133
Speaker 5: allows animals to assume leadership roles. That's important. Rapid growth.

1203
00:55:49,133 --> 00:55:50,652
Speaker 5: They have to be able to grow really quickly and

1204
00:55:50,693 --> 00:55:54,493
Speaker 5: calm disposition, right friendly nature. Zebras have none of this.

1205
00:55:56,253 --> 00:55:59,293
Speaker 5: They're very aggressive zebras, so there's no way to train them.

1206
00:55:59,813 --> 00:56:04,133
Speaker 5: They have evasive reflexes, they have a strong ducking reflex,

1207
00:56:04,613 --> 00:56:10,172
Speaker 5: and they're very complicated to restrain. They have no social hierarchy.

1208
00:56:10,413 --> 00:56:12,893
Speaker 5: Unlike horses, zebras do not have a clear family structure

1209
00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:16,973
Speaker 5: or social hierarchy, which is crucial for domestication survival instincts.

1210
00:56:17,093 --> 00:56:20,213
Speaker 5: They will do anything. They think of everything as a

1211
00:56:20,253 --> 00:56:22,933
Speaker 5: predator and they will kick and attack anything, and they

1212
00:56:22,973 --> 00:56:24,933
Speaker 5: have a terrible back structure. They're no good for writing.

1213
00:56:25,053 --> 00:56:25,453
Speaker 5: They would have.

1214
00:56:25,413 --> 00:56:27,893
Speaker 2: Thought zebras are a bunch of mad dogs. And we

1215
00:56:27,933 --> 00:56:31,373
Speaker 2: also asked about the pronunciation of zebra in this Texas

1216
00:56:31,373 --> 00:56:34,773
Speaker 2: says it's not zebra or zebra. It's called a bar

1217
00:56:34,853 --> 00:56:37,093
Speaker 2: coded donkey from Steve, so we can go with that one.

1218
00:56:37,213 --> 00:56:39,813
Speaker 5: But this person said, I wrote a zebra or zebra,

1219
00:56:40,093 --> 00:56:43,853
Speaker 5: I wrote a zonkie in Mexico. Oh, zebra donkey mixed

1220
00:56:44,693 --> 00:56:48,613
Speaker 5: looked like a three thousand texts just came in and

1221
00:56:48,613 --> 00:56:50,333
Speaker 5: pushed my text at the bottom. It looked like a

1222
00:56:50,373 --> 00:56:51,173
Speaker 5: donkey with stripes.

1223
00:56:52,693 --> 00:56:56,213
Speaker 2: Zonkie. Great name for it, Doreen. You went to the

1224
00:56:56,333 --> 00:56:57,013
Speaker 2: zoo this morning.

1225
00:56:57,773 --> 00:57:00,653
Speaker 8: I went to Aukland zero this morning. It was packed,

1226
00:57:01,053 --> 00:57:02,933
Speaker 8: lots and lots and lots and lots of happy people,

1227
00:57:03,093 --> 00:57:07,293
Speaker 8: sunny days. Didn't see any depressed drafts of zebras. But

1228
00:57:07,453 --> 00:57:09,853
Speaker 8: as a small child, we enter the zoo a couple

1229
00:57:09,893 --> 00:57:11,933
Speaker 8: of times a year, and it was the old Aucklands.

1230
00:57:11,933 --> 00:57:15,053
Speaker 8: Who I'm sixty six, and things were caged up. There

1231
00:57:15,133 --> 00:57:19,533
Speaker 8: was an insane a couple of insane polar bears, other beers,

1232
00:57:19,693 --> 00:57:22,493
Speaker 8: a number of brown bears and other bears, and everybody

1233
00:57:22,493 --> 00:57:24,973
Speaker 8: looked pretty bored and sad. And I love the way

1234
00:57:25,253 --> 00:57:28,773
Speaker 8: it's made to look more like their home, you know,

1235
00:57:28,893 --> 00:57:32,653
Speaker 8: and counting for their needs, their natures, things like that.

1236
00:57:32,693 --> 00:57:35,933
Speaker 8: These days, the rhinoceroses were happy. They were eating lunch,

1237
00:57:35,933 --> 00:57:39,053
Speaker 8: and everybody was happy the cause we're happy. And also

1238
00:57:39,253 --> 00:57:42,733
Speaker 8: we went to the dinosaur enclosure. They've got a whole

1239
00:57:42,773 --> 00:57:48,373
Speaker 8: lot of dinosaurs, size built dinosaurs. As an exhibition there

1240
00:57:48,373 --> 00:57:51,133
Speaker 8: at the moment, and you know, pretty unnerving when you're

1241
00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:53,733
Speaker 8: standing behind this dinosaur and its eyeballing you up and

1242
00:57:53,773 --> 00:57:59,093
Speaker 8: making funny noises. But yeah, brilliant. It's encapsulated the Jurassic age.

1243
00:57:59,293 --> 00:58:01,293
Speaker 8: Husband and I learned something. The six year old and

1244
00:58:01,293 --> 00:58:04,813
Speaker 8: four year old learned something. Everybody had fun, and you know,

1245
00:58:04,973 --> 00:58:08,253
Speaker 8: I think I think the anausor as entertained as we are,

1246
00:58:08,373 --> 00:58:09,893
Speaker 8: they look at you as if to say, what the

1247
00:58:10,133 --> 00:58:13,853
Speaker 8: heck are you doing? And we were lucky enough last

1248
00:58:14,013 --> 00:58:18,693
Speaker 8: year to be allowed to be in the Flamingo's enclosure

1249
00:58:19,213 --> 00:58:22,333
Speaker 8: with our two grandchildren standing there, and people were watching

1250
00:58:22,453 --> 00:58:25,813
Speaker 8: us like they watched the flamingos and just standing there

1251
00:58:25,813 --> 00:58:28,133
Speaker 8: for ten to fifteen minutes, and they'd come around, walk

1252
00:58:28,173 --> 00:58:31,133
Speaker 8: around us and do their Hong Kong thing. But amazing.

1253
00:58:31,533 --> 00:58:34,293
Speaker 8: You know, the zoo has got all sorts of different

1254
00:58:34,293 --> 00:58:38,173
Speaker 8: things that pulls out for different different groups and everybody

1255
00:58:38,253 --> 00:58:41,013
Speaker 8: has a fun time. We've got a annual pass for

1256
00:58:41,093 --> 00:58:45,213
Speaker 8: our kids, grandchildren and ourselves and would go all six, seven,

1257
00:58:45,213 --> 00:58:46,013
Speaker 8: eight times a year.

1258
00:58:47,413 --> 00:58:49,813
Speaker 5: Were you around when they had the tea party?

1259
00:58:49,893 --> 00:58:53,693
Speaker 8: Chimps, Yes, yeah, the chimps that the whole year they're

1260
00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:57,493
Speaker 8: completely different zono. We knew no better, we knew so better.

1261
00:58:58,613 --> 00:59:02,093
Speaker 8: But yeah, you know, we saw the kiwis. Today's several

1262
00:59:02,213 --> 00:59:06,013
Speaker 8: kiwis walking across the little darkness. But we're not the kid.

1263
00:59:06,013 --> 00:59:07,973
Speaker 8: We had one little tiny enclosure and you're all in

1264
00:59:08,013 --> 00:59:10,133
Speaker 8: the court and the little key was in the corner going, oh,

1265
00:59:10,213 --> 00:59:13,813
Speaker 8: get out, get out. You know that's done differently. I

1266
00:59:13,933 --> 00:59:19,573
Speaker 8: too feel that we'd have a lot more animals die

1267
00:59:19,693 --> 00:59:23,893
Speaker 8: and die out, become extinct if we hadn't had zoos.

1268
00:59:24,173 --> 00:59:27,773
Speaker 8: But my bug is circuses. I hate trying to make

1269
00:59:27,893 --> 00:59:31,613
Speaker 8: animals human doing human things, dancing dogs or you know

1270
00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:34,373
Speaker 8: type rope walking, and with that, I don't go with

1271
00:59:34,573 --> 00:59:36,693
Speaker 8: that's they're an animal. There are a dog of catter,

1272
00:59:36,973 --> 00:59:40,213
Speaker 8: giraffe or whatever. Don't try and humanize them. And clothing

1273
00:59:40,413 --> 00:59:43,493
Speaker 8: lions and tigers. There's a master beasts. These are the

1274
00:59:44,053 --> 00:59:46,693
Speaker 8: you know, these are the alphas, the you know, they're

1275
00:59:46,733 --> 00:59:48,773
Speaker 8: the top and nearly just take away.

1276
00:59:49,293 --> 00:59:50,973
Speaker 5: Well, that's a very very good point because if you

1277
00:59:51,053 --> 00:59:52,613
Speaker 5: go back to as I was saying with the tea

1278
00:59:52,653 --> 00:59:54,893
Speaker 5: party chimps, that's what it was all about. So it's

1279
00:59:54,933 --> 00:59:57,653
Speaker 5: a very very different era of zoos. And if people

1280
00:59:57,653 --> 01:00:00,133
Speaker 5: don't know what they were. Every day the chimps would

1281
01:00:00,173 --> 01:00:02,293
Speaker 5: come out and they'd sit around in human clothes at

1282
01:00:02,293 --> 01:00:06,213
Speaker 5: the Auckland Zoo and have have tea and they'd have

1283
01:00:06,293 --> 01:00:09,053
Speaker 5: knives and forks, and they have plates and and bowls.

1284
01:00:09,373 --> 01:00:11,413
Speaker 5: And the last tea party chimp, I believe, died in

1285
01:00:11,413 --> 01:00:14,413
Speaker 5: twenty and thirteen. So there was a ripe old age

1286
01:00:14,493 --> 01:00:16,933
Speaker 5: of chimps. But then there's also those chimps that you

1287
01:00:17,293 --> 01:00:19,773
Speaker 5: see in zoos in Russia that smoke cigarettes. I'll be

1288
01:00:19,813 --> 01:00:23,653
Speaker 5: backhanding a backhanding a darry and it's actually very cool.

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Speaker 5: I think some of that someone might be able to

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Speaker 5: correct another, but I think some of the tea party

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Speaker 5: chimps were smokers because a chimpanzee loves a cigarette.

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Speaker 2: Because they had a whole bunch of ads. Was it

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Speaker 2: the Lipton t ads in the UK? Where it was

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Speaker 2: the chimpanzees in the in the ads PG tips mate,

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Speaker 2: PG tips? That's right?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Do you know the piano's on my foot? You

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Speaker 5: how much a blurt? That one?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That's the one? Yeah, okay that And to.

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Speaker 5: Dorian's point, it's very very different zoos from that. So

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Speaker 5: I think often when people have a problem with zoos.

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Speaker 5: They're describing zoos from the past, not current zoos. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: current zoos are very very different from from zoos from

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Speaker 5: the past.

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Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 2: to call love to hear your thoughts. So you're a

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Speaker 2: fan of zoos or not. It is twenty eight to

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Speaker 2: three headlines with railing coming.

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Speaker 4: Up news talks.

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Speaker 14: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

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Speaker 14: with a blue bubble. Calls for better balanced policy in

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Speaker 14: the first session of the second phase of the Inquiry

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Speaker 14: into our COVID response, looking into aspects like mandates and lockdowns.

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Speaker 14: Heart of the City Head Viv bec that's Auckland. Heart

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Speaker 14: of the City head says there needed to be policy

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Speaker 14: to let businesses continue trading safely. People with little ones

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Speaker 14: in early childcare of being encouraged to sign up to

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Speaker 14: the Early Childhood Education rebate scheme Family Boost with more

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Speaker 14: people now eligible. The state of emergencies lifted for Nelson,

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Speaker 14: Marlborough and Tasman, and a slip affected section of Nelson's

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Speaker 14: Rocks Road State Highway six has reopened. Auckland Council says

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Speaker 14: it's settled on its proposal to turn Takapuna Golf Course

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Speaker 14: into a flood storage wetland to protect milf. Golfing and

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Speaker 14: recreation will still be possible. Public consultation is open later

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Speaker 14: this year. Former news Hub reporter Orni Khaipit has thrown

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Speaker 14: her hat in the ring to run for Tapati Marti

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Speaker 14: in Tarmakimkodo, one of a number of candidates. What to

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Speaker 14: know about Australia's bid to wing teens of social media

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Speaker 14: find out more at enzid Herald Premium. Back to Matt

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Speaker 14: Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylen, and we're talking about zoo's

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Speaker 2: on the back of quite a gruesome story in Australia.

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Speaker 2: It was a darling down zoo where it appears an

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Speaker 2: employee lost her arm after a lion attacked her, which

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Speaker 2: is an horrific story. But as you said earlier, Matt,

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Speaker 2: that is what lions do, you know, the wild beasts

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Speaker 2: and sometimes they'll take your arm off.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, if everyone knows the story of Sigfried

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Speaker 5: and Roy their performance in Las Vegas where Roy got

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Speaker 5: attacked by their white tiger named Matacre. I think it

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Speaker 5: was called I think it was back in two thousand

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Speaker 5: and three. So you know, they performed with this giant

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Speaker 5: white tiger for the longest time and then one day

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Speaker 5: the tiger just went nah and ripped the tan German

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Speaker 5: performer to pieces, and you know, he survived, but they

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Speaker 5: didn't continue on the attack called severe injuries. So he

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Speaker 5: was I think he had a stroke side of stage,

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Speaker 5: but they didn't that that lion didn't get put down.

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Speaker 5: It left led a whole life afterwards, because a tiger

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Speaker 5: is a tiger, and sigfeed and Roy. As much as

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Speaker 5: Siegfried didn't want Roy to be cut to pieces, Sigfried

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Speaker 5: was like, it's a tiger being a tiger. We messed

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Speaker 5: up because they didn't have a rehearsal and they didn't

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Speaker 5: and they changed up the performance a little bit. And

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Speaker 5: what you realize is that every single day meant to

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Speaker 5: Kor was thinking, I'm gonna maybe I'll eat this guy.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I won't. You know, you thought he was trained,

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Speaker 5: but he was a wild animal. He was going, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'll lead him today, and he ripped him to pieces.

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Speaker 2: Is the day to day yep? Yeah, absolutely, I.

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Speaker 5: Certainly certainly hope and I assume that that that lion

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Speaker 5: that was involved in that incident in Australia, isn't being

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Speaker 5: blamed for it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we also mentioned some zoos of the past,

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Speaker 2: and I was just looking up the North New Brighton

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Speaker 2: Zoo that many people will remember, just outside of christ Juchure,

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Speaker 2: New Brighton. So that had a crocodile, it had lions,

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Speaker 2: it had tigers, but it was closed in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: six after a bit of controversy from the public. They

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Speaker 2: said it was cruel to keep these lines and tigers

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Speaker 2: in these small enclosures. And the alligator was in a

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Speaker 2: glass case as well. That was pretty tiny. But again,

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Speaker 2: back when that was operational, hugely popular zoo, and not

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Speaker 2: many people thought about the ramifications of is this crawl

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Speaker 2: to keep these lines in these small cages. But eventually

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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety six things started to change and they realized, yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe not the best place for a lion, so they

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Speaker 2: relocated them.

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Speaker 5: How cool was a Runna Park neck in the day though?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that line enclosure where you drove in

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Speaker 2: with your old lader. Yeah, good times, Mike says.

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Speaker 5: Apparently there was an Auckland chimp in the ninety fifties

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Speaker 5: that would ask for ciggies and then drain a sig

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01:05:05,253 --> 01:05:09,933
Speaker 5: in one puff. Yeah, that's a powerful powerful animals. The chimps,

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Speaker 5: But those tea paddy chimps they didn't sit around the

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Speaker 5: table like that. Like I was talking before. They've stopped

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Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty three, So you can't blame the Auckland Zoo.

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Speaker 5: You know, lots of things were different back in nineteen

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Speaker 5: sixty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, times have changed, Pete, how are you this afternoon? Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, And the Mecnent tire they are more for zoos,

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Speaker 18: you know, all these brag or snail huggers, what are

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Speaker 18: you want to call them? You know, the will is

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Speaker 18: not a perfect place, but some people they can't afford

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Speaker 18: to go over seas, maybe go to a big zoo

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Speaker 18: where they might might be if you're lucky enough to

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Speaker 18: have their money to do that. But I think every

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Speaker 18: country's got zoos. You're not going to get rid of it.

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Speaker 18: And today, like their previously, she pretty much seen it all.

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Speaker 18: You know, the enclosures that they improved a lot from

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Speaker 18: there were probably twenty thirty fifty years ago. What they are,

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Speaker 18: they're a lot better now.

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Speaker 11: They made it.

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Speaker 18: You know, the area is bigger for them, they get

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Speaker 18: well fed, they probably get better looked after, and they

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Speaker 18: do in the actual wildlife in the world, like they

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Speaker 18: really have to whit, don't they. They get a feed down.

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Speaker 18: I watched these things on YouTube and then the poor

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Speaker 18: lions and you're with if you went, so what they

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Speaker 18: go through to make it to five?

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Speaker 11: Which is the cruelest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting people say let the animals run free.

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Speaker 5: Often when they're running free is when they're running away

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Speaker 5: from being hacked to pieces for a predator as well.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, Pete, Yeah, we got we got one here and

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Speaker 18: new Plymouth, which is going to see here it's free.

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01:06:39,013 --> 01:06:39,373
Speaker 12: It's good.

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Speaker 18: It's good to get away from your house and for

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Speaker 18: them to grow up and monks. We got the new

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01:06:43,973 --> 01:06:47,293
Speaker 18: plimmer who got goats and sheep and all sorts of stuff, boods.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 18: It's a good, good day out with the kids, you know.

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Speaker 18: And you're going to have those sort of places so

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Speaker 18: the young ones can see the sea animals live, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete, what about the likes of SeaWorld that has

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01:07:01,373 --> 01:07:04,973
Speaker 2: come under a lot of controversy and are they still operating.

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Speaker 2: If they are still operating, there's no longer orca in captivity.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you know where the zoos, most of

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01:07:12,773 --> 01:07:14,853
Speaker 2: the zoos in the world are trending to the right direction,

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Speaker 2: that they're starting to realize animals like orca cannot be

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Speaker 2: kept in a tiny little pool. Or do you think

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01:07:21,093 --> 01:07:23,293
Speaker 2: there is still a place for having those wild animals

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Speaker 2: in play and zoos like that.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it's put of a hard one that one.

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Speaker 18: But end of the day, like Nape they used to

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Speaker 18: have that. I was the Mary the merry Land when

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Speaker 18: they had the ice swam for dolphins. That's going back

1439
01:07:38,173 --> 01:07:40,013
Speaker 18: about thirty odd years ago. Now when we have that

1440
01:07:40,173 --> 01:07:43,173
Speaker 18: was done probably about thirty years or they're ran about

1441
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Speaker 18: the and I swam for dolphins. They get well looked up.

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Speaker 18: They had the seals there, and I don't think another enough. Okay,

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01:07:51,013 --> 01:07:53,493
Speaker 18: there was on a perfect place. They get well feed.

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Speaker 18: You know, it's I don't know, it's probably not probably

1445
01:07:58,013 --> 01:08:00,853
Speaker 18: not right in some ways, but the animals are probably

1446
01:08:01,173 --> 01:08:03,933
Speaker 18: a lot more stressful there. Then they say, going back

1447
01:08:03,933 --> 01:08:06,933
Speaker 18: to about the wildlife, they listening for themselves.

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01:08:07,013 --> 01:08:09,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. This is the tricky part of the

1449
01:08:09,373 --> 01:08:11,973
Speaker 2: argument for me, is I base it on the intelligence

1450
01:08:12,013 --> 01:08:14,893
Speaker 2: of the animals. So Orcas are very intelligent. Dolphins are intelligent.

1451
01:08:15,013 --> 01:08:18,532
Speaker 2: Gorillas are intelligent. There's a gorilla enclosure down at Irana

1452
01:08:18,613 --> 01:08:20,773
Speaker 2: Park and by all accounts very popular. But where do

1453
01:08:20,813 --> 01:08:22,973
Speaker 2: you draw the line. That's the difficult thing for me.

1454
01:08:23,053 --> 01:08:25,972
Speaker 2: It's tigers have an element of intelligence. Are they smarter

1455
01:08:26,133 --> 01:08:29,293
Speaker 2: than dogs? I don't know. You know, it starts to

1456
01:08:29,333 --> 01:08:31,093
Speaker 2: get a bit murd and where's the balance. At what

1457
01:08:31,173 --> 01:08:33,852
Speaker 2: point do you say you're too intelligent to be in

1458
01:08:33,973 --> 01:08:35,812
Speaker 2: that cage and you're dumb enough to.

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01:08:36,133 --> 01:08:38,652
Speaker 5: Be in that cage. Yeah, And animals aren't the greatest

1460
01:08:39,253 --> 01:08:41,012
Speaker 5: people in the world either. Have you seen that footage

1461
01:08:41,013 --> 01:08:44,812
Speaker 5: that's come out recently of that orangutang Haf's a possum

1462
01:08:44,853 --> 01:08:48,452
Speaker 5: across the zoo. That's the possum's up the up the

1463
01:08:48,572 --> 01:08:51,852
Speaker 5: tree with it. Yeah, and it just hafs grabs the possum.

1464
01:08:52,213 --> 01:08:54,173
Speaker 5: So if you're talking about animal safety, you know who

1465
01:08:54,173 --> 01:08:55,732
Speaker 5: doesn't care about animal safety? Animals?

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01:08:55,853 --> 01:08:58,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that a raga thing video was amazing.

1467
01:08:58,612 --> 01:09:01,852
Speaker 2: He winds up and just flings it across the enclosure.

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01:09:01,893 --> 01:09:02,492
Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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Speaker 5: And what's amazing is and this is the resilience of

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01:09:05,412 --> 01:09:07,772
Speaker 5: possums that possum just lands and runs off.

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01:09:08,412 --> 01:09:09,133
Speaker 2: That's what the hell was that.

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01:09:09,412 --> 01:09:13,253
Speaker 5: It's been throwing off a three story building, bussy. It's great,

1473
01:09:13,532 --> 01:09:17,692
Speaker 5: it's great footage. Put yourselves in the animal's shoes. Would

1474
01:09:17,692 --> 01:09:19,812
Speaker 5: you like to be caged and fed or roaming the

1475
01:09:19,853 --> 01:09:22,852
Speaker 5: savannah fed and looking for looking for a bit of

1476
01:09:22,973 --> 01:09:25,852
Speaker 5: random mating. Yeah, I don't know, and that I think

1477
01:09:25,893 --> 01:09:28,253
Speaker 5: that's that's the question. I'm not sure. I mean, I

1478
01:09:28,253 --> 01:09:30,532
Speaker 5: think you probably enjoy being on the savannah until you

1479
01:09:30,652 --> 01:09:33,372
Speaker 5: were being hacked to pieces by a predator. We're starving

1480
01:09:33,412 --> 01:09:34,612
Speaker 5: to death, you know exactly.

1481
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Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1482
01:09:37,372 --> 01:09:39,013
Speaker 2: We got full lines at the moment, but if you

1483
01:09:39,093 --> 01:09:42,532
Speaker 2: can't get through, keep trying. It is seventeen to three

1484
01:09:42,612 --> 01:09:44,532
Speaker 2: back very surely you're listening to Matt and Tyler.

1485
01:09:45,973 --> 01:09:49,173
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

1486
01:09:49,253 --> 01:09:52,052
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams

1487
01:09:52,213 --> 01:09:53,612
Speaker 1: afternoons news talks.

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01:09:53,652 --> 01:09:56,892
Speaker 2: They'd be good afternoon quarter to three oh eight hundred

1489
01:09:56,893 --> 01:09:59,452
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. Do you agree with zoos or

1490
01:09:59,612 --> 01:10:01,173
Speaker 2: do you find them a bit cruel? That is what

1491
01:10:01,213 --> 01:10:04,293
Speaker 2: we're talking about right now, so many ticks coming through.

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01:10:04,293 --> 01:10:05,372
Speaker 2: On nine two ninety two.

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01:10:05,812 --> 01:10:07,973
Speaker 5: This Texas says, hey, guys, how would you feel if

1494
01:10:08,053 --> 01:10:10,812
Speaker 5: key we kept on display and glass display boxes and

1495
01:10:10,893 --> 01:10:13,452
Speaker 5: broad daylights so people could appreciate them. After all, they

1496
01:10:13,492 --> 01:10:16,572
Speaker 5: are just done birds. The thing with Kiwi's, there's lots

1497
01:10:16,612 --> 01:10:20,253
Speaker 5: of fantastic displays, is the one in Queenstown. I forget

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Speaker 5: what that bird park is there. It's fantastic, but you

1499
01:10:23,933 --> 01:10:29,132
Speaker 5: go in there. They've got you know, soundproof glass, multiple

1500
01:10:29,173 --> 01:10:32,253
Speaker 5: glaze glass. It's in fred lights so they can't see it.

1501
01:10:32,372 --> 01:10:35,013
Speaker 5: So you just see kiwis running around and they've got

1502
01:10:35,053 --> 01:10:38,093
Speaker 5: no idea that humans are watching, and it's absolutely fantastic.

1503
01:10:38,253 --> 01:10:41,532
Speaker 5: They look like, I don't know, people running around with

1504
01:10:41,532 --> 01:10:43,732
Speaker 5: their pants falling down. This an interesting thing about Kiwi's,

1505
01:10:43,772 --> 01:10:49,093
Speaker 5: how their backsides hanging down. But I went to that

1506
01:10:49,253 --> 01:10:51,492
Speaker 5: and I hadn't seen a Kiwi in the wild before, obviously,

1507
01:10:51,692 --> 01:10:54,572
Speaker 5: but it actually I actually got tingles up and down

1508
01:10:54,612 --> 01:10:57,812
Speaker 5: my spine. I felt hugely patriotic looking at these Kiwis

1509
01:10:58,412 --> 01:11:02,253
Speaker 5: and running around, and I think that makes me more

1510
01:11:02,492 --> 01:11:06,333
Speaker 5: likely to be invested in their conservation, having actually seen them,

1511
01:11:07,053 --> 01:11:08,293
Speaker 5: rather than just being told about them.

1512
01:11:08,532 --> 01:11:11,893
Speaker 2: Remember that story, and quite rightly New Zealand got outraged

1513
01:11:11,933 --> 01:11:15,133
Speaker 2: over it. I believe it was in Chicago, was certainly

1514
01:11:15,173 --> 01:11:17,612
Speaker 2: in the US Miami Zoo, Miami, I'm just looking at

1515
01:11:17,652 --> 01:11:19,852
Speaker 2: it now, and they had a kiwi there and the

1516
01:11:19,973 --> 01:11:24,412
Speaker 2: kiwi was in daylight and they allowed a petting situation

1517
01:11:24,652 --> 01:11:26,893
Speaker 2: so the zoo members would come in and they'd be

1518
01:11:26,933 --> 01:11:30,133
Speaker 2: able to pet this kiwi. And we absolutely got outraged

1519
01:11:30,173 --> 01:11:32,612
Speaker 2: by that because that's our national bird. And luckily they

1520
01:11:32,652 --> 01:11:36,293
Speaker 2: shut down that particular exhibit and the kiwi in question

1521
01:11:36,452 --> 01:11:38,932
Speaker 2: part or is now back in the dark. But you're

1522
01:11:39,013 --> 01:11:41,133
Speaker 2: quite right, I mean, we take that pretty seriously when

1523
01:11:41,173 --> 01:11:43,012
Speaker 2: it comes to our national bird, to make sure they've

1524
01:11:43,013 --> 01:11:45,093
Speaker 2: been looked after. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten.

1525
01:11:45,253 --> 01:11:46,972
Speaker 5: Hang in a minute. I've hung out with a kiwi

1526
01:11:47,053 --> 01:11:49,852
Speaker 5: in the daytime. I hang out with this kiwi called Sparky.

1527
01:11:50,532 --> 01:11:51,213
Speaker 5: I had one leg.

1528
01:11:51,612 --> 01:11:52,333
Speaker 2: It's a great name.

1529
01:11:53,093 --> 01:11:57,492
Speaker 5: Sparky was Sparky was very very happy to be hanging

1530
01:11:57,532 --> 01:11:59,492
Speaker 5: out in the in the daylight. Sparky the kiwi.

1531
01:11:59,612 --> 01:12:01,652
Speaker 2: How did it get along with one leg? As you say,

1532
01:12:01,652 --> 01:12:03,932
Speaker 2: they're pretty gooberous at the best of times. Of two legs.

1533
01:12:03,973 --> 01:12:05,652
Speaker 2: One leg should have called it hoppy.

1534
01:12:06,053 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 5: Sparky was sweet airs try.

1535
01:12:10,173 --> 01:12:12,293
Speaker 2: I'm just look at them now. Oh yeah, the kids

1536
01:12:12,333 --> 01:12:12,692
Speaker 2: love them.

1537
01:12:13,133 --> 01:12:15,372
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go like, look, I'll post a picture

1538
01:12:15,412 --> 01:12:17,293
Speaker 5: of that on my Instagram. Matt heath in Zen on

1539
01:12:17,372 --> 01:12:20,013
Speaker 5: Instagram of me. I found this picture here of me

1540
01:12:20,053 --> 01:12:23,093
Speaker 5: hanging out with Sparky. Sparky it was fine with being

1541
01:12:23,133 --> 01:12:25,133
Speaker 5: out in the in the daylight. So I don't know

1542
01:12:25,492 --> 01:12:28,013
Speaker 5: it's good enough for one leg at Sparky. Get them

1543
01:12:28,013 --> 01:12:28,652
Speaker 5: all out in the daylight.

1544
01:12:28,732 --> 01:12:34,093
Speaker 2: So we're going look at them, Jimmy, mate, Hey, how

1545
01:12:34,173 --> 01:12:34,892
Speaker 2: are you guys?

1546
01:12:34,973 --> 01:12:37,652
Speaker 6: Good to hear? Hey, I'm hanging out with two kigwis

1547
01:12:37,692 --> 01:12:38,532
Speaker 6: now on the radio.

1548
01:12:38,652 --> 01:12:38,932
Speaker 11: Boys.

1549
01:12:39,333 --> 01:12:42,532
Speaker 2: Yes you are, Jermy spot On. We've got both our legs.

1550
01:12:43,933 --> 01:12:47,572
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what I look. I mean, there's so

1551
01:12:47,772 --> 01:12:51,092
Speaker 6: many things that could be right and could be wrong.

1552
01:12:51,333 --> 01:12:55,492
Speaker 6: But my take on is I remember the movie Born Free,

1553
01:12:55,612 --> 01:12:59,892
Speaker 6: and then that is exactly what they are. I see,

1554
01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:06,853
Speaker 6: doesn't matter what they are, you know, lions, tigers, chim monkeys, gorillas.

1555
01:13:07,612 --> 01:13:11,052
Speaker 6: They go back and forth, mate, and that's not natural.

1556
01:13:11,893 --> 01:13:17,213
Speaker 6: It is not them smoking cigarettes, you know, And to me,

1557
01:13:18,253 --> 01:13:22,772
Speaker 6: I just said, is cruel. I'd hate like I've got

1558
01:13:23,013 --> 01:13:27,253
Speaker 6: my little animal, and by goodness, I'd hate for her

1559
01:13:27,372 --> 01:13:31,973
Speaker 6: to be caged up twenty four seven. You know, our entertainment,

1560
01:13:32,133 --> 01:13:35,572
Speaker 6: we go and watch them, you know, and I mean

1561
01:13:35,772 --> 01:13:38,372
Speaker 6: think about it. Is it really what they want?

1562
01:13:38,772 --> 01:13:38,892
Speaker 19: They?

1563
01:13:39,492 --> 01:13:41,492
Speaker 6: You know, they're pacing up and down.

1564
01:13:41,692 --> 01:13:45,253
Speaker 5: And what about, Jimmy, what about what about animals that

1565
01:13:45,652 --> 01:13:48,452
Speaker 5: have are endangered? And that's the only way to keep

1566
01:13:48,492 --> 01:13:51,333
Speaker 5: them going, and keep breeding, breeding of the animals going,

1567
01:13:51,452 --> 01:13:53,492
Speaker 5: you know, keep keep keeping them exacting.

1568
01:13:53,293 --> 01:13:56,772
Speaker 6: Light, Matt, Matt, that is light in the wild. In

1569
01:13:57,412 --> 01:14:03,213
Speaker 6: our culture, everything you risk is a risk, Maddy. And look,

1570
01:14:03,692 --> 01:14:07,412
Speaker 6: no matter what happens, you know, these animals are not

1571
01:14:07,612 --> 01:14:10,732
Speaker 6: designed to be put in the goddamn zoo, you know.

1572
01:14:11,053 --> 01:14:15,333
Speaker 6: And look I went when I was young, and admittedly,

1573
01:14:15,492 --> 01:14:19,133
Speaker 6: but I haven't been to a zoo probably forty odd years.

1574
01:14:19,652 --> 01:14:23,452
Speaker 6: And you look at the doccos on teeth. Even Richard

1575
01:14:23,652 --> 01:14:27,732
Speaker 6: Edinburgh says, they're not meant to be put in something

1576
01:14:27,812 --> 01:14:32,012
Speaker 6: where they can't do their own natural things. And look,

1577
01:14:32,333 --> 01:14:34,852
Speaker 6: I'm not being rude. This is the longst I've ever

1578
01:14:34,973 --> 01:14:38,173
Speaker 6: talked on the phone actually to you guys. But look,

1579
01:14:38,333 --> 01:14:41,972
Speaker 6: it's just it's just me, mate, and I think it's

1580
01:14:42,173 --> 01:14:44,132
Speaker 6: cruel my personal opinion.

1581
01:14:44,612 --> 01:14:47,253
Speaker 5: But Jimmy, you've got to meet the zoos now very different.

1582
01:14:47,293 --> 01:14:51,012
Speaker 5: You brought up these smoking chimps. That was nineteen sixty three,

1583
01:14:51,652 --> 01:14:55,133
Speaker 5: so it's a huge like zoos today. Can't can't be

1584
01:14:55,492 --> 01:14:58,133
Speaker 5: how to account for the behavior of zoos in the past,

1585
01:14:58,293 --> 01:15:00,013
Speaker 5: can they No?

1586
01:15:00,372 --> 01:15:04,333
Speaker 6: But it's still Maddie. You imagine your little dog being

1587
01:15:04,492 --> 01:15:07,893
Speaker 6: stuck twenty four seven. I mean, come on, mate, I

1588
01:15:08,572 --> 01:15:10,772
Speaker 6: you know i'd treat minding his dog.

1589
01:15:11,053 --> 01:15:13,452
Speaker 5: Yeah. If my little dog Colin, he'll be listening at

1590
01:15:13,492 --> 01:15:16,012
Speaker 5: home right now, and he's he'll be he's inside, although

1591
01:15:16,013 --> 01:15:17,333
Speaker 5: he does have a little door to get outside. But

1592
01:15:17,333 --> 01:15:19,213
Speaker 5: if you're listening, Colin, you're a good boy, Colin. What

1593
01:15:19,333 --> 01:15:21,452
Speaker 5: a good boy, Colin. I'm soon Colin.

1594
01:15:21,732 --> 01:15:23,333
Speaker 2: He's got a great little cage at home. He's got

1595
01:15:23,372 --> 01:15:25,612
Speaker 2: a whole house and a radio going. Colin loves it,

1596
01:15:25,692 --> 01:15:26,532
Speaker 2: gets feed every day.

1597
01:15:26,612 --> 01:15:28,173
Speaker 5: Perfect. Thank you so much for you call, Jimmy. He

1598
01:15:28,253 --> 01:15:30,733
Speaker 5: thinks zoos are terrible.

1599
01:15:30,973 --> 01:15:31,173
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:15:31,333 --> 01:15:33,812
Speaker 5: I think there's different levels of zoo. When I go

1601
01:15:33,853 --> 01:15:36,172
Speaker 5: to the Aokland Zoo, I don't think the animals look miserable.

1602
01:15:36,213 --> 01:15:38,692
Speaker 5: I see a capa borough, which is a fantastic animal.

1603
01:15:38,772 --> 01:15:38,932
Speaker 11: God.

1604
01:15:38,933 --> 01:15:40,772
Speaker 5: I love a Kapa Borough even though one style my

1605
01:15:40,812 --> 01:15:44,093
Speaker 5: sunglasses one day, but but they're they look.

1606
01:15:44,013 --> 01:15:45,452
Speaker 2: Happy, Yeah, very much.

1607
01:15:45,572 --> 01:15:47,572
Speaker 5: I don't know about a polar beer being in New Zealand.

1608
01:15:47,572 --> 01:15:49,572
Speaker 5: I don't know about a polar beer hanging out in

1609
01:15:50,133 --> 01:15:52,412
Speaker 5: our summers. That doesn't that doesn't seem right to me.

1610
01:15:53,213 --> 01:15:55,253
Speaker 5: I think there's there's definitely levels of it. I mean,

1611
01:15:55,532 --> 01:15:57,933
Speaker 5: does a tarantula really care if it's in a in

1612
01:15:58,053 --> 01:16:01,012
Speaker 5: a container? Although I'm not convinced Aalklands Zoo's got tarantula's

1613
01:16:01,013 --> 01:16:03,973
Speaker 5: I've been to that. I've been to that that can

1614
01:16:04,053 --> 01:16:05,452
Speaker 5: close quite a lot and I've never seen them.

1615
01:16:05,532 --> 01:16:09,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've never seen them, do they exist? Is

1616
01:16:09,412 --> 01:16:11,532
Speaker 2: the number call? I got to take a quick break,

1617
01:16:11,572 --> 01:16:13,532
Speaker 2: but more of your calls, very surely eight to three,

1618
01:16:14,532 --> 01:16:15,812
Speaker 2: the issues that affect you.

1619
01:16:16,133 --> 01:16:17,572
Speaker 4: And a bit of fun along the way.

1620
01:16:17,853 --> 01:16:22,732
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks, B News Talks.

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01:16:22,732 --> 01:16:23,893
Speaker 2: There be Steve how are you?

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01:16:25,213 --> 01:16:29,053
Speaker 15: Oh? Very good? Thanks Matt, Tyler. Now I've got to

1623
01:16:29,093 --> 01:16:31,173
Speaker 15: come to the point your producers told me because you've

1624
01:16:31,213 --> 01:16:34,412
Speaker 15: got news coming up now, you know, I've listened to

1625
01:16:34,492 --> 01:16:38,173
Speaker 15: this today and what have you, and the I agree

1626
01:16:38,213 --> 01:16:40,293
Speaker 15: with so much, especially the fact that.

1627
01:16:41,893 --> 01:16:42,452
Speaker 5: Zoos are so.

1628
01:16:42,692 --> 01:16:48,132
Speaker 15: Educational for children, they learn so much and so benefit

1629
01:16:48,213 --> 01:16:52,932
Speaker 15: you run through my thoughts. Now we we have another

1630
01:16:53,053 --> 01:16:54,772
Speaker 15: zoo in New Zealand and what have you? And I

1631
01:16:54,853 --> 01:16:58,053
Speaker 15: think it would be so educational for the children. It's

1632
01:16:58,133 --> 01:17:00,452
Speaker 15: called per maximum.

1633
01:17:01,812 --> 01:17:02,213
Speaker 5: Right and.

1634
01:17:05,013 --> 01:17:06,893
Speaker 15: And coming straight to the point, I could go on

1635
01:17:07,013 --> 01:17:09,973
Speaker 15: and on, but imagine if you had an open day

1636
01:17:10,053 --> 01:17:13,053
Speaker 15: there to see all the animals. Wouldn't it be a

1637
01:17:13,093 --> 01:17:16,372
Speaker 15: great deterrent for keeping young children out of there?

1638
01:17:16,692 --> 01:17:17,492
Speaker 2: Maybe? Yeah?

1639
01:17:17,652 --> 01:17:21,933
Speaker 5: Maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean definitely if you I

1640
01:17:21,933 --> 01:17:26,013
Speaker 5: don't know, yeah, what you walk through, lead through and

1641
01:17:26,133 --> 01:17:27,293
Speaker 5: steer at them and their cells?

1642
01:17:28,732 --> 01:17:31,133
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I mean they get fit every day. But

1643
01:17:31,253 --> 01:17:33,173
Speaker 2: you know they can't they you know, there's no maybe

1644
01:17:33,253 --> 01:17:33,532
Speaker 2: going on.

1645
01:17:33,772 --> 01:17:37,053
Speaker 5: There's been a lot of anti zoo rhetoric in the

1646
01:17:37,333 --> 01:17:39,372
Speaker 5: last hour. And look, I would say, like a properly

1647
01:17:39,452 --> 01:17:43,812
Speaker 5: run modern zoo, you could describe it as a modern arc,

1648
01:17:44,093 --> 01:17:47,812
Speaker 5: couldn't you. Yeah, you know, they care, They safeguard and

1649
01:17:47,933 --> 01:17:52,652
Speaker 5: dangerous species. They offer kids, millions of kids, thousands of

1650
01:17:52,732 --> 01:17:55,412
Speaker 5: kids in New Zealand. You know, the opportunity to it

1651
01:17:55,532 --> 01:17:58,972
Speaker 5: to be wonder at animals and it's successful. They can't

1652
01:17:58,973 --> 01:18:01,333
Speaker 5: go there. It's a first time experience of a wildlife

1653
01:18:01,372 --> 01:18:04,732
Speaker 5: and I think it makes people empathetic both to animals

1654
01:18:04,772 --> 01:18:07,173
Speaker 5: and to humans that that kind of experience. You know,

1655
01:18:07,572 --> 01:18:11,412
Speaker 5: you see people caring for animals, and you know, I

1656
01:18:11,933 --> 01:18:15,492
Speaker 5: think this probably makes people more likely to support conversation

1657
01:18:15,812 --> 01:18:19,452
Speaker 5: conservation across the across the globe if they actually see

1658
01:18:19,492 --> 01:18:22,133
Speaker 5: animals firsthand. So I think modern zoo is very different

1659
01:18:22,133 --> 01:18:24,452
Speaker 5: from the old zoos. Yep, And personally I'm.

1660
01:18:24,412 --> 01:18:27,293
Speaker 2: For him, nicely said, and you as a big kid,

1661
01:18:27,333 --> 01:18:29,052
Speaker 2: when you saw that key we up close and little

1662
01:18:29,053 --> 01:18:32,133
Speaker 2: old Sparky with the one leg, absolutely loved him, and

1663
01:18:32,293 --> 01:18:34,532
Speaker 2: you just wanted to save every KeyWe you come across.

1664
01:18:34,853 --> 01:18:38,692
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely. And when I saw the huge black tongue

1665
01:18:38,772 --> 01:18:41,053
Speaker 5: on the giraffe at Auckland Zoo that day, actually that

1666
01:18:41,173 --> 01:18:41,652
Speaker 5: terrified men.

1667
01:18:41,812 --> 01:18:45,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, lucky girafts. All right, coming up after three o'clock,

1668
01:18:45,093 --> 01:18:47,612
Speaker 2: we want to talk about getting married multiple times. Nol

1669
01:18:47,772 --> 01:18:49,692
Speaker 2: Edmonds is doing that. That's coming up next.

1670
01:18:51,532 --> 01:18:54,852
Speaker 4: Your new home are insateful and entertaining talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk Sebby.

1672
01:19:00,612 --> 01:19:03,412
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the show. Great to have your company

1673
01:19:03,572 --> 01:19:06,412
Speaker 2: as always on this Monday afternoon. I hope you're doing

1674
01:19:06,492 --> 01:19:10,372
Speaker 2: well wherever you're listening in the country. Noel Edmunds, there's

1675
01:19:10,452 --> 01:19:14,213
Speaker 2: a name many many people around the world know, incredibly

1676
01:19:14,293 --> 01:19:16,853
Speaker 2: famous here in New Zealand and the UK and elsewhere.

1677
01:19:17,173 --> 01:19:21,333
Speaker 2: Noel's House Party was a huge hit here in New Zealand. Maddie,

1678
01:19:21,333 --> 01:19:23,732
Speaker 2: you're a big fan of that as a kid growing up.

1679
01:19:23,973 --> 01:19:25,692
Speaker 5: Well, I was aware of it, Yeah, mister Bobby, I

1680
01:19:25,692 --> 01:19:27,213
Speaker 5: had some time for that. There was the was the

1681
01:19:27,293 --> 01:19:29,612
Speaker 5: Gunge situation, wasn't there? There was what was that?

1682
01:19:29,812 --> 01:19:29,852
Speaker 4: That?

1683
01:19:30,293 --> 01:19:32,532
Speaker 5: The there was the lyric game, the.

1684
01:19:32,612 --> 01:19:34,892
Speaker 2: Gunge Tank, That's right, the Gunge Tank.

1685
01:19:35,053 --> 01:19:40,133
Speaker 5: Was that that was a predecessor to Nickelodeon Gunging and

1686
01:19:40,572 --> 01:19:41,852
Speaker 5: what now Gunging, wasn't it?

1687
01:19:42,173 --> 01:19:45,572
Speaker 2: And then he had the hidden cameras, the Gotchid moments.

1688
01:19:46,133 --> 01:19:47,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there was.

1689
01:19:47,333 --> 01:19:47,492
Speaker 15: There was.

1690
01:19:47,572 --> 01:19:48,932
Speaker 5: There was a lot on that. There was a lot

1691
01:19:48,973 --> 01:19:50,532
Speaker 5: on there. There was some kind of incident. I was

1692
01:19:50,612 --> 01:19:52,372
Speaker 5: just trying to get my head around it where there

1693
01:19:52,452 --> 01:19:55,173
Speaker 5: was some kind of terrible thing happened at one point

1694
01:19:55,652 --> 01:19:57,812
Speaker 5: involving a crane. Remember that.

1695
01:19:58,612 --> 01:20:00,093
Speaker 2: Well, I just had a deep dive and I can't

1696
01:20:00,093 --> 01:20:02,892
Speaker 2: remember that incident, but I do remember. Actually I don't remember.

1697
01:20:02,893 --> 01:20:04,932
Speaker 2: I'm reading it here, so that's a lie. But Uri

1698
01:20:05,013 --> 01:20:07,372
Speaker 2: Galla remember the old spoon man who used to say

1699
01:20:07,452 --> 01:20:08,452
Speaker 2: he'd been yeah the.

1700
01:20:08,452 --> 01:20:09,052
Speaker 5: Bend the spoons.

1701
01:20:09,173 --> 01:20:12,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, so on the on the incident caught on Noel's

1702
01:20:12,492 --> 01:20:14,612
Speaker 2: house party. He had a hidden camera and he caught

1703
01:20:14,732 --> 01:20:17,892
Speaker 2: Uri Gala bending the spoon with his hands off set

1704
01:20:17,973 --> 01:20:20,173
Speaker 2: before he came on. So that was a big moment.

1705
01:20:21,532 --> 01:20:25,213
Speaker 5: Okay, this wasn't on the Noel Edmunds house party. That

1706
01:20:25,372 --> 01:20:28,013
Speaker 5: that that incident, the faithal incident and the give it

1707
01:20:28,013 --> 01:20:30,452
Speaker 5: a World section that was on the Late Late Breakfast

1708
01:20:30,492 --> 01:20:33,372
Speaker 5: Show with Noel Ah yes, no omens. Okay, so we

1709
01:20:33,452 --> 01:20:36,412
Speaker 5: can't we can't tarnish the house party with that. Which

1710
01:20:36,452 --> 01:20:38,572
Speaker 5: but anyway, we're not talking about that, are We're just

1711
01:20:38,612 --> 01:20:41,893
Speaker 5: talking about let's let's go through the relationship situation with

1712
01:20:42,093 --> 01:20:44,213
Speaker 5: Noel Edmonds because he now lives in New Zealand, doesn't he.

1713
01:20:44,253 --> 01:20:46,612
Speaker 2: He does, and he's had a new reality TV show

1714
01:20:46,692 --> 01:20:48,772
Speaker 2: that's hit the air waves about his new life in

1715
01:20:48,812 --> 01:20:50,852
Speaker 2: New Zealand. But what we want to talk about is

1716
01:20:50,893 --> 01:20:54,372
Speaker 2: Noel Edmunds is getting married to his third wife for

1717
01:20:54,452 --> 01:20:56,092
Speaker 2: the fifth time, so he's.

1718
01:20:57,492 --> 01:21:00,692
Speaker 5: Let's unpack this. So he had one wife yep, that

1719
01:21:00,812 --> 01:21:04,492
Speaker 5: he married once, yes, and then another presumably divorced, then

1720
01:21:04,492 --> 01:21:06,852
Speaker 5: another one that he married and then divorced, and then

1721
01:21:06,893 --> 01:21:08,933
Speaker 5: this the third one he married, maried and then is

1722
01:21:09,013 --> 01:21:12,052
Speaker 5: married three more times and then wants to marry her again.

1723
01:21:12,412 --> 01:21:12,612
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1724
01:21:12,772 --> 01:21:16,253
Speaker 2: Oh four times already, He's right.

1725
01:21:16,812 --> 01:21:18,133
Speaker 5: So there was the original one, and there was three

1726
01:21:18,173 --> 01:21:19,213
Speaker 5: more and he wants to go again.

1727
01:21:19,333 --> 01:21:20,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, one more time?

1728
01:21:20,732 --> 01:21:23,253
Speaker 5: Yeah? So are they are they breaking up between each

1729
01:21:23,293 --> 01:21:26,572
Speaker 5: and getting divorced or are they just reffirming their vows?

1730
01:21:27,013 --> 01:21:29,692
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you what the man himself as

1731
01:21:29,732 --> 01:21:30,852
Speaker 2: sid So this is a and.

1732
01:21:30,853 --> 01:21:32,612
Speaker 5: Then full discosure, Tyler. We have been trying to get

1733
01:21:32,652 --> 01:21:34,372
Speaker 5: hold of Noel Edmins to see if he'll talk to us,

1734
01:21:34,412 --> 01:21:35,733
Speaker 5: but we have failed.

1735
01:21:35,452 --> 01:21:38,852
Speaker 2: To failed to so fair on messages in and I've

1736
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:40,773
Speaker 2: tried mister Blobby as well, but he's unavailable.

1737
01:21:42,293 --> 01:21:42,492
Speaker 5: Show.

1738
01:21:43,013 --> 01:21:46,253
Speaker 2: So here's what Noel Edmonds told the Mirror. So he said,

1739
01:21:46,572 --> 01:21:49,532
Speaker 2: regarding their fifth wedding to Liz Davies, We've been married

1740
01:21:49,532 --> 01:21:52,133
Speaker 2: a lot, but we want a key we won. He

1741
01:21:52,253 --> 01:21:55,012
Speaker 2: said there was a compelling reason behind another wedding, he said,

1742
01:21:55,093 --> 01:21:57,772
Speaker 2: I quote, we own a chapel, so why wouldn't we.

1743
01:21:58,093 --> 01:22:00,093
Speaker 2: I've had an idea. We have never been married in

1744
01:22:00,133 --> 01:22:02,772
Speaker 2: New Zealand our home. I propose that we restore the

1745
01:22:02,853 --> 01:22:05,333
Speaker 2: chapel on our farm and on our wedding anniversary, I

1746
01:22:05,412 --> 01:22:07,412
Speaker 2: want to walk down the aisle of our own chapel

1747
01:22:07,652 --> 01:22:10,772
Speaker 2: and have the wonderful Russell, the local minister, marry us again.

1748
01:22:11,133 --> 01:22:13,213
Speaker 2: Deal or no deal? Question mark?

1749
01:22:13,532 --> 01:22:14,532
Speaker 5: How long have they been together?

1750
01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:17,293
Speaker 2: They got married first in two thousand and nine.

1751
01:22:17,652 --> 01:22:19,812
Speaker 5: All right, and so since then there's been that. It's

1752
01:22:19,893 --> 01:22:23,213
Speaker 5: four So every now and then they do it. Well, okay,

1753
01:22:23,572 --> 01:22:25,372
Speaker 5: Well they just love getting they just love getting married.

1754
01:22:25,412 --> 01:22:25,973
Speaker 20: Is there is there?

1755
01:22:26,213 --> 01:22:26,412
Speaker 5: Is there?

1756
01:22:27,412 --> 01:22:27,572
Speaker 11: You know?

1757
01:22:27,692 --> 01:22:28,932
Speaker 5: Do you have to get a new present for them

1758
01:22:28,933 --> 01:22:31,213
Speaker 5: every time? If you're a friend of Noel Emonds, do

1759
01:22:31,253 --> 01:22:33,372
Speaker 5: you have to turn up with another toaster every few years?

1760
01:22:33,732 --> 01:22:35,933
Speaker 2: Or what would you do if your if you're reproposed

1761
01:22:35,933 --> 01:22:38,053
Speaker 2: to their wife five times and said, hey Matt, we're

1762
01:22:38,093 --> 01:22:42,052
Speaker 2: having another wedding. Come along and remember a gift is mandatory?

1763
01:22:42,492 --> 01:22:45,173
Speaker 5: Wow, you know it depends what the situation is. I mean,

1764
01:22:45,333 --> 01:22:47,173
Speaker 5: you know, if the wine's flowing and there's a there's

1765
01:22:47,173 --> 01:22:50,772
Speaker 5: a nice meal and there's a party return, then maybe

1766
01:22:50,973 --> 01:22:55,093
Speaker 5: more likely than if it's a fifth different wife or

1767
01:22:55,093 --> 01:22:57,812
Speaker 5: an eighth different wife. In this situation, eighth Mary, eight

1768
01:22:58,013 --> 01:23:01,572
Speaker 5: weddings to different people, I'd be less likely to turn up.

1769
01:23:01,612 --> 01:23:04,372
Speaker 5: And I think that I'd like to hear from this

1770
01:23:04,492 --> 01:23:08,372
Speaker 5: because I've got a series on this. Right we're do

1771
01:23:08,532 --> 01:23:11,173
Speaker 5: you you know by the time you Okay, maybe I

1772
01:23:11,173 --> 01:23:13,333
Speaker 5: won't have a theory, but I'll ask a question. If

1773
01:23:13,412 --> 01:23:15,812
Speaker 5: someone's married for the third time, is it going to

1774
01:23:15,853 --> 01:23:17,933
Speaker 5: work out? Are they getting better at being married? Or

1775
01:23:17,973 --> 01:23:20,893
Speaker 5: if someone's third marriage, it looks like Noel Edmonds in

1776
01:23:20,973 --> 01:23:23,612
Speaker 5: my opinion, Noel Edmonds will have an opinion. I wasn't going,

1777
01:23:23,853 --> 01:23:26,133
Speaker 5: but he's an outliner. Yeah, I think that people get

1778
01:23:26,173 --> 01:23:29,492
Speaker 5: married three times, they're probably just terrible at weddings. They're

1779
01:23:29,532 --> 01:23:33,133
Speaker 5: just terrible at being married. You know, they can't they

1780
01:23:33,173 --> 01:23:36,933
Speaker 5: can't hold a marriage together. So when you're married for

1781
01:23:37,013 --> 01:23:40,572
Speaker 5: the third time and you just I mean one marriage,

1782
01:23:41,013 --> 01:23:44,092
Speaker 5: sure you make some mistakes, then you learn some lessons

1783
01:23:44,133 --> 01:23:45,692
Speaker 5: and you get married again, and then by that one

1784
01:23:45,732 --> 01:23:47,012
Speaker 5: you should have worked out how to be married.

1785
01:23:47,372 --> 01:23:49,333
Speaker 2: I just don't know too many people in the sweet

1786
01:23:49,372 --> 01:23:52,333
Speaker 2: spot of two marriages that I genuinely know quite a

1787
01:23:52,372 --> 01:23:54,412
Speaker 2: few people that have been married three times and for

1788
01:23:54,532 --> 01:23:57,293
Speaker 2: whatever reason, it is third time the charm that really

1789
01:23:57,372 --> 01:23:59,692
Speaker 2: used to work for them. That these are people a

1790
01:23:59,732 --> 01:24:02,132
Speaker 2: little bit sort of later in life that they've found,

1791
01:24:02,333 --> 01:24:05,053
Speaker 2: you know, their new partner and got married for the

1792
01:24:05,133 --> 01:24:07,012
Speaker 2: third time and they said this is it and they've

1793
01:24:07,053 --> 01:24:09,253
Speaker 2: stuck to their word. But the people that have been

1794
01:24:09,293 --> 01:24:10,893
Speaker 2: married two times now, I don't know too many of

1795
01:24:10,893 --> 01:24:12,932
Speaker 2: those people. It's kind of that sweet spot either number

1796
01:24:12,973 --> 01:24:15,732
Speaker 2: you just get married once, where you get married three times,

1797
01:24:16,173 --> 01:24:17,973
Speaker 2: or maybe there's people out there are being married more

1798
01:24:18,013 --> 01:24:19,093
Speaker 2: than that. Love to hear from you.

1799
01:24:19,532 --> 01:24:21,053
Speaker 5: What do you do as a third We'd love to

1800
01:24:21,093 --> 01:24:23,133
Speaker 5: hear from you. One hundred and eighty ten eighty on

1801
01:24:23,173 --> 01:24:25,692
Speaker 5: this issue. Have you been married three times and by

1802
01:24:25,732 --> 01:24:27,612
Speaker 5: the third time, had you sorted out what it was

1803
01:24:27,692 --> 01:24:30,213
Speaker 5: like to be married? Has it been successful going forward?

1804
01:24:30,492 --> 01:24:34,372
Speaker 5: And what's a third wedding like? Can you have a

1805
01:24:34,492 --> 01:24:37,093
Speaker 5: wedding if you've had a really spectacular, big wedding where

1806
01:24:37,133 --> 01:24:39,452
Speaker 5: you've had your vowels in front of your family, vowels

1807
01:24:39,812 --> 01:24:41,973
Speaker 5: in front of your family and everyone, and promise to

1808
01:24:42,013 --> 01:24:44,972
Speaker 5: be together forever, and then you've lasted a wee while

1809
01:24:45,013 --> 01:24:46,532
Speaker 5: and then you've broken up, then you've done it again

1810
01:24:46,572 --> 01:24:48,652
Speaker 5: for the third time. Can you can you be trusted

1811
01:24:49,973 --> 01:24:53,492
Speaker 5: when you when you're when you know asn't everyone just

1812
01:24:53,532 --> 01:24:54,972
Speaker 5: sitting that winning going this isn't going to last?

1813
01:24:55,173 --> 01:24:57,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I had one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1814
01:24:57,612 --> 01:24:59,293
Speaker 2: I do agree with you the logic of if you

1815
01:24:59,452 --> 01:25:01,612
Speaker 2: if you're going for your third marriage, why do you

1816
01:25:01,973 --> 01:25:04,652
Speaker 2: bother with the whole hullabaloo of it? Why don't you

1817
01:25:04,732 --> 01:25:06,333
Speaker 2: just stay together and say, you know what, we're going

1818
01:25:06,412 --> 01:25:08,333
Speaker 2: to be together in every way apart from another marriage,

1819
01:25:08,333 --> 01:25:10,612
Speaker 2: Because I've done this twice didn't work out, and I

1820
01:25:10,692 --> 01:25:12,532
Speaker 2: just don't want to go through the pilavora of it again.

1821
01:25:12,853 --> 01:25:14,972
Speaker 2: I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1822
01:25:14,973 --> 01:25:17,812
Speaker 2: to call. There's some great tics coming through?

1823
01:25:18,893 --> 01:25:21,892
Speaker 5: Yes, there's a few. Can we can we read those out?

1824
01:25:21,933 --> 01:25:23,772
Speaker 5: Or are they We might have to talk to our

1825
01:25:23,853 --> 01:25:24,372
Speaker 5: lawyers about that.

1826
01:25:24,572 --> 01:25:26,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, we might have to sense in some of those.

1827
01:25:26,133 --> 01:25:27,972
Speaker 2: But love to hear from you if you've been married

1828
01:25:28,053 --> 01:25:31,293
Speaker 2: multiple times? I ad hundred eighty ten eighty was it

1829
01:25:31,412 --> 01:25:34,452
Speaker 2: third time? The charm? What was it about? Having another

1830
01:25:34,572 --> 01:25:36,412
Speaker 2: wedding that was so important to you.

1831
01:25:36,933 --> 01:25:38,333
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess what I was trying to say us

1832
01:25:38,333 --> 01:25:42,652
Speaker 5: struggling to get my words out. But if you wherever

1833
01:25:42,692 --> 01:25:45,253
Speaker 5: you go, that's where you are, right. So the problem

1834
01:25:45,333 --> 01:25:47,732
Speaker 5: that a lot of people have with marriages is they

1835
01:25:48,133 --> 01:25:50,333
Speaker 5: blame the other person for all the problems in the marriage,

1836
01:25:50,372 --> 01:25:52,012
Speaker 5: and then they go to the next marriage and they're

1837
01:25:52,053 --> 01:25:54,492
Speaker 5: just the same person, so the same problems happen, and

1838
01:25:54,572 --> 01:25:56,213
Speaker 5: then they go it's this person's fault for they go

1839
01:25:56,253 --> 01:25:58,692
Speaker 5: to another one. But wherever you go, you where, that's

1840
01:25:58,692 --> 01:26:01,253
Speaker 5: where you are. Until you sort yourself out, then you're

1841
01:26:01,253 --> 01:26:02,852
Speaker 5: always going to have problems, no matter who you were.

1842
01:26:03,013 --> 01:26:05,452
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. Oh wait, hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1843
01:26:05,652 --> 01:26:07,772
Speaker 2: number to call love to hear from you if you've

1844
01:26:08,053 --> 01:26:11,692
Speaker 2: had multiple marriages, or you have been the husband or

1845
01:26:11,772 --> 01:26:13,933
Speaker 2: wife of someone that's been in multiple marriages. It is

1846
01:26:14,133 --> 01:26:16,892
Speaker 2: fourteen past three. You're listening to Matt and Tyler, Good afternoon,

1847
01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:22,932
Speaker 2: very good afternoon, seventeen past three. So Noel Edmonds TV

1848
01:26:23,093 --> 01:26:25,852
Speaker 2: superstar in the UK and tire back in his heyday.

1849
01:26:26,253 --> 01:26:28,173
Speaker 2: He is getting married to his third wife for the

1850
01:26:28,253 --> 01:26:31,652
Speaker 2: fifth time. He loves a wedding, loves reproposing. I think

1851
01:26:31,692 --> 01:26:34,492
Speaker 2: that's the word to his third wife. But the question

1852
01:26:34,612 --> 01:26:37,333
Speaker 2: we've asked is if you've got married multiple times or

1853
01:26:37,893 --> 01:26:40,652
Speaker 2: got married three times? Is three the charm?

1854
01:26:41,333 --> 01:26:41,452
Speaker 17: Oh?

1855
01:26:41,492 --> 01:26:43,293
Speaker 2: One hundred eighty ten eighties and number to call?

1856
01:26:43,732 --> 01:26:43,892
Speaker 20: Oh?

1857
01:26:44,013 --> 01:26:47,973
Speaker 5: How look, this is just like you cynical people. This

1858
01:26:48,213 --> 01:26:51,372
Speaker 5: is just a publicity start to try and keep Noel relevant,

1859
01:26:51,412 --> 01:26:55,492
Speaker 5: and you guys are falling for it. No no, never,

1860
01:26:55,933 --> 01:26:59,572
Speaker 5: no no no no no no, would never do it

1861
01:26:59,612 --> 01:27:02,412
Speaker 5: in publicity. Absolutely, it doesn't sound like him at all,

1862
01:27:02,532 --> 01:27:05,013
Speaker 5: and we would never fall for a publicity stunt. Absolutely, no.

1863
01:27:05,093 --> 01:27:06,852
Speaker 5: It's pure love for the fifth time.

1864
01:27:07,293 --> 01:27:08,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's a love.

1865
01:27:08,372 --> 01:27:10,173
Speaker 5: It has nothing to do with the new reality show

1866
01:27:11,692 --> 01:27:13,692
Speaker 5: and the potential shot and the hot tub. When he

1867
01:27:13,732 --> 01:27:14,372
Speaker 5: asked her to marry.

1868
01:27:14,412 --> 01:27:19,253
Speaker 2: He just loved Yeah, one hundred eighty. There's plenty of

1869
01:27:19,293 --> 01:27:21,213
Speaker 2: ticks coming through. We'll get to some of those shortly.

1870
01:27:21,412 --> 01:27:22,652
Speaker 2: But don good afternoon.

1871
01:27:24,013 --> 01:27:25,732
Speaker 9: You can have to know this nothing about know all

1872
01:27:25,812 --> 01:27:29,333
Speaker 9: all that, but good my observation, so that you know

1873
01:27:29,572 --> 01:27:34,572
Speaker 9: the the breakup of the first marriage, it is really uh,

1874
01:27:36,492 --> 01:27:40,012
Speaker 9: rip your apart, and then it's very easy to fall

1875
01:27:40,053 --> 01:27:44,692
Speaker 9: in love quick again and there's the number two that's

1876
01:27:45,812 --> 01:27:48,732
Speaker 9: not the right move, and then number three probably yeah

1877
01:27:48,853 --> 01:27:50,293
Speaker 9: he settled out a bit better than that, but.

1878
01:27:50,492 --> 01:27:52,133
Speaker 3: Just row with emotions.

1879
01:27:52,173 --> 01:27:56,293
Speaker 5: And yeah, the rebound for number two, Yeah, that's an

1880
01:27:56,333 --> 01:27:58,452
Speaker 5: interesting that's an interesting way way to look at it.

1881
01:27:58,732 --> 01:28:01,213
Speaker 5: And I'd be I wonder what the stats are on that.

1882
01:28:01,372 --> 01:28:06,092
Speaker 5: How quickly people who have you know, maybe they didn't

1883
01:28:06,093 --> 01:28:08,612
Speaker 5: want the first marriage to end and it's ended on them,

1884
01:28:08,973 --> 01:28:12,052
Speaker 5: how quickly they marry again, and how successful those second

1885
01:28:12,612 --> 01:28:15,012
Speaker 5: marriages are, because I can certainly see that happening.

1886
01:28:15,133 --> 01:28:15,173
Speaker 20: You.

1887
01:28:15,372 --> 01:28:17,772
Speaker 5: You know, you just want to get back to the

1888
01:28:17,812 --> 01:28:20,572
Speaker 5: position in life you were. Then, so you meet someone

1889
01:28:20,732 --> 01:28:23,053
Speaker 5: and you think, yeah, this is great, I'm in love.

1890
01:28:23,173 --> 01:28:26,093
Speaker 9: But really, you know, I've learned, I know well, I

1891
01:28:26,213 --> 01:28:29,253
Speaker 9: know all of the mistakes. I'm just yearning for the

1892
01:28:29,372 --> 01:28:31,652
Speaker 9: love and sorry, it doesn't seem to work.

1893
01:28:32,372 --> 01:28:37,253
Speaker 5: How many how many marriages have you had? Don two? Two?

1894
01:28:37,973 --> 01:28:40,213
Speaker 5: And oh hang on a minute, so too? And did

1895
01:28:40,293 --> 01:28:42,213
Speaker 5: the second? Was the second one not great? And that's

1896
01:28:42,253 --> 01:28:44,492
Speaker 5: why you bring this up? Or is this just your exert?

1897
01:28:44,812 --> 01:28:47,972
Speaker 9: No, I'm a moment too, right.

1898
01:28:48,213 --> 01:28:51,093
Speaker 2: So you defeated, you defeated the odds done and you

1899
01:28:51,213 --> 01:28:54,452
Speaker 2: you made it work, Yeah I did.

1900
01:28:55,213 --> 01:28:58,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I waited quite I waited quite a while.

1901
01:29:00,253 --> 01:29:01,972
Speaker 9: I didn't sort of yeah.

1902
01:29:02,372 --> 01:29:06,253
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're you're your second one wasn't a rebound marriage, don.

1903
01:29:07,253 --> 01:29:09,572
Speaker 9: It wasn't a rebeuld. I still in love with the

1904
01:29:09,612 --> 01:29:10,013
Speaker 9: old one?

1905
01:29:10,492 --> 01:29:12,532
Speaker 5: Yeah right, okay, you're still in love with the old

1906
01:29:12,532 --> 01:29:13,133
Speaker 5: one to this day.

1907
01:29:14,692 --> 01:29:15,652
Speaker 9: No, at that time?

1908
01:29:15,732 --> 01:29:19,412
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what a while to get over it? Yeah?

1909
01:29:19,612 --> 01:29:22,572
Speaker 5: And how long is the how long was the how

1910
01:29:22,572 --> 01:29:23,893
Speaker 5: long was the first one? And how long was the

1911
01:29:23,933 --> 01:29:26,253
Speaker 5: second long one? And how long was the gap between don,

1912
01:29:26,293 --> 01:29:26,932
Speaker 5: if you don't mind.

1913
01:29:26,853 --> 01:29:32,093
Speaker 9: Me asking, twelve thirty years and this one's thirty six?

1914
01:29:32,452 --> 01:29:34,612
Speaker 5: Oh oh right, okay, well this one seems like it's

1915
01:29:34,612 --> 01:29:36,173
Speaker 5: a solid one. It seems like you've got to sort

1916
01:29:36,213 --> 01:29:38,972
Speaker 5: it out. For the second one, Well.

1917
01:29:40,973 --> 01:29:44,333
Speaker 9: Took my time over it, and I had a few trials.

1918
01:29:45,692 --> 01:29:48,492
Speaker 2: If you don't mind me asking, Don, what what was

1919
01:29:48,572 --> 01:29:51,572
Speaker 2: it in this in the first one that that meant

1920
01:29:51,612 --> 01:29:52,972
Speaker 2: you guys went your separate ways?

1921
01:29:56,053 --> 01:29:58,173
Speaker 3: Alcohol?

1922
01:29:59,572 --> 01:30:00,772
Speaker 4: You were you were her.

1923
01:30:02,853 --> 01:30:05,012
Speaker 5: Both, all right? Okay?

1924
01:30:07,093 --> 01:30:10,933
Speaker 9: And and so and but alcohol alcohol is only symptomatic.

1925
01:30:11,452 --> 01:30:13,933
Speaker 6: So yeah, and.

1926
01:30:18,093 --> 01:30:20,293
Speaker 9: Well it's a lot more to you.

1927
01:30:20,452 --> 01:30:24,812
Speaker 5: I can a question quickly, Yeah, Yeah, complicated, but alcohol

1928
01:30:24,853 --> 01:30:27,452
Speaker 5: hasn't been a situation in this current thirty six year

1929
01:30:27,612 --> 01:30:28,692
Speaker 5: operation ye're running now?

1930
01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:31,293
Speaker 9: Nope, not at all.

1931
01:30:31,893 --> 01:30:33,852
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, thank you so much for you call, Don,

1932
01:30:33,893 --> 01:30:36,572
Speaker 5: Thanks for your insights. Yeah, fascinating. So Don reckons the

1933
01:30:36,692 --> 01:30:40,532
Speaker 5: second one is Hang on a minute, what was this theory?

1934
01:30:40,893 --> 01:30:43,972
Speaker 5: So he was married for the first time for twelve ys. Yeah,

1935
01:30:43,973 --> 01:30:45,612
Speaker 5: that's right, and he thinks for a lot of other

1936
01:30:45,692 --> 01:30:48,652
Speaker 5: people that the second one can be the rebound one,

1937
01:30:48,692 --> 01:30:50,972
Speaker 5: that can be the problem one. So the third one's

1938
01:30:51,013 --> 01:30:53,933
Speaker 5: the charm. Although that wasn't his experience. His experiences, he

1939
01:30:54,412 --> 01:30:56,612
Speaker 5: played the field. He so does wild oats after the

1940
01:30:56,692 --> 01:30:59,732
Speaker 5: first one and then and then settled down with the

1941
01:30:59,772 --> 01:31:02,253
Speaker 5: second one, and that's been a roaring success.

1942
01:31:02,333 --> 01:31:04,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, good strategy from Don oh eight. One hundred and

1943
01:31:04,333 --> 01:31:06,213
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you've

1944
01:31:06,213 --> 01:31:08,213
Speaker 2: been married multiple times? Love to hear from you? Was

1945
01:31:08,372 --> 01:31:12,013
Speaker 2: third time the charm? Some good texts coming through here.

1946
01:31:12,492 --> 01:31:14,572
Speaker 5: Yeah, malb just got hatched for the third time since

1947
01:31:14,612 --> 01:31:17,012
Speaker 5: this text, and only one spice skill showed up. Doesn't

1948
01:31:17,053 --> 01:31:18,133
Speaker 5: that say everything? Jade?

1949
01:31:18,173 --> 01:31:18,333
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1950
01:31:18,452 --> 01:31:20,333
Speaker 5: See, I think I think by the third one it's

1951
01:31:20,372 --> 01:31:22,412
Speaker 5: hard to get people to turn up to the wedding. Yeah,

1952
01:31:22,412 --> 01:31:24,293
Speaker 5: because hello, I'm not going through this. This is rabbit.

1953
01:31:24,532 --> 01:31:26,492
Speaker 2: If you've been to too many times, yeah, if you've

1954
01:31:26,532 --> 01:31:29,612
Speaker 2: been to someone's third wedding, what was the situation? Did

1955
01:31:29,652 --> 01:31:32,213
Speaker 2: you have to bring a gift? Was it a smaller fear?

1956
01:31:32,293 --> 01:31:35,333
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you. On eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1957
01:31:35,412 --> 01:31:37,612
Speaker 2: It is twenty two past three, back very surely. You're

1958
01:31:37,612 --> 01:31:38,732
Speaker 2: listening to Matt and Tyler.

1959
01:31:43,013 --> 01:31:46,652
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh, eight hundred eighty

1960
01:31:46,732 --> 01:31:48,613
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1961
01:31:48,812 --> 01:31:50,612
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon, twenty four past three, and we're talking

1962
01:31:50,652 --> 01:31:53,452
Speaker 2: about getting married multiple times. If you've done that, why,

1963
01:31:53,572 --> 01:31:56,372
Speaker 2: what was the situation? What happens? No, Edmonds, he is

1964
01:31:56,452 --> 01:31:59,452
Speaker 2: getting married to his third wife for the fifth time.

1965
01:31:59,732 --> 01:32:02,492
Speaker 2: He's reproposed so many times. He just loves a wedding.

1966
01:32:02,532 --> 01:32:04,732
Speaker 2: But love to hear your stories. On eight hundred eighty

1967
01:32:04,893 --> 01:32:08,492
Speaker 2: ten eighty. Some good texts coming through. On nine two

1968
01:32:08,572 --> 01:32:10,972
Speaker 2: ninety two. This one, kiddy, guys, My brother in law

1969
01:32:11,093 --> 01:32:13,253
Speaker 2: got married for the third time last year and it

1970
01:32:13,452 --> 01:32:15,492
Speaker 2: was his wife's first marriage, so it was a big

1971
01:32:15,572 --> 01:32:18,253
Speaker 2: deal because of this not fear. She should have a

1972
01:32:18,333 --> 01:32:20,132
Speaker 2: quiet one just because of his history.

1973
01:32:20,732 --> 01:32:22,213
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a good point. Yeah, Because I

1974
01:32:22,253 --> 01:32:24,852
Speaker 5: was saying before, if a friend of mine's getting married

1975
01:32:24,893 --> 01:32:26,732
Speaker 5: for the third time, I'm like, mate, I'm not gonna

1976
01:32:26,772 --> 01:32:28,253
Speaker 5: make much an effort for that one because I've been

1977
01:32:28,253 --> 01:32:30,452
Speaker 5: to two others and it doesn't seem like you've committed

1978
01:32:30,492 --> 01:32:32,372
Speaker 5: to those ones. So I'm not going. But you know,

1979
01:32:32,532 --> 01:32:35,692
Speaker 5: his new wife, she might just want to have all

1980
01:32:35,772 --> 01:32:38,572
Speaker 5: the bells and whistles. I always wonder about the other

1981
01:32:38,652 --> 01:32:42,293
Speaker 5: wives what they think about the new weddings, if they

1982
01:32:42,333 --> 01:32:45,052
Speaker 5: compare the weddings. Yeah, you know, And is the size

1983
01:32:45,093 --> 01:32:48,093
Speaker 5: of the wedding representative of the size of the love?

1984
01:32:48,452 --> 01:32:50,572
Speaker 2: Definitely, one hundred percent. That's what they do. And if

1985
01:32:50,612 --> 01:32:52,213
Speaker 2: you win a bit beer bones for your first wedding

1986
01:32:52,213 --> 01:32:54,612
Speaker 2: and then went all out for your third, the first wife,

1987
01:32:54,692 --> 01:33:00,013
Speaker 2: quite rightly would be thinking, cough up, Lee, how are

1988
01:33:00,053 --> 01:33:00,772
Speaker 2: you this afternoon?

1989
01:33:02,013 --> 01:33:06,492
Speaker 3: I'm fine. First of all, I know nothing that Dan

1990
01:33:06,692 --> 01:33:12,013
Speaker 3: can care less. But to get back to my three marriages.

1991
01:33:13,652 --> 01:33:18,093
Speaker 3: The first one ended in divorce. And I always say,

1992
01:33:18,652 --> 01:33:21,133
Speaker 3: listen to either side of a busted marriage and the

1993
01:33:21,213 --> 01:33:24,972
Speaker 3: other side I'm out sounding like a monster. The pass

1994
01:33:25,173 --> 01:33:29,492
Speaker 3: to say, I did my best to behave correctly terminating that.

1995
01:33:30,532 --> 01:33:35,013
Speaker 3: Then I met the love of my life. And this

1996
01:33:35,173 --> 01:33:39,412
Speaker 3: is where it's a bit unfair when you say if

1997
01:33:39,772 --> 01:33:43,652
Speaker 3: three times felt there's too much or reflects on the

1998
01:33:43,772 --> 01:33:47,612
Speaker 3: person we had. We were married for six years and

1999
01:33:47,732 --> 01:33:49,253
Speaker 3: then I lost her to cancer.

2000
01:33:49,772 --> 01:33:50,732
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, lad.

2001
01:33:51,652 --> 01:33:56,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then million a year later I met the

2002
01:33:56,732 --> 01:34:01,492
Speaker 3: lady to whom I am now married. Equally happy. Both

2003
01:34:01,652 --> 01:34:08,692
Speaker 3: were extremely happy marriages. Two of my two steps from

2004
01:34:08,732 --> 01:34:12,732
Speaker 3: my second marriage, one of them was tied up with

2005
01:34:14,173 --> 01:34:18,973
Speaker 3: university exams from the States and couldn't come, But my

2006
01:34:20,173 --> 01:34:25,852
Speaker 3: brother came to my third marriage and stood alongside my

2007
01:34:26,173 --> 01:34:32,972
Speaker 3: son and my future three step children and took part

2008
01:34:33,333 --> 01:34:37,612
Speaker 3: in the ceremony. So yes, I am now extremely happy

2009
01:34:39,772 --> 01:34:45,452
Speaker 3: having with my third marriage. Of course, I'm eighty six now,

2010
01:34:45,692 --> 01:34:50,412
Speaker 3: so i'd out still be a fourth because my third

2011
01:34:50,452 --> 01:34:53,293
Speaker 3: wife is sixteen years younger than I am.

2012
01:34:55,412 --> 01:34:57,452
Speaker 5: And so just so I get my head around this.

2013
01:34:57,612 --> 01:35:01,133
Speaker 5: So your second marriage there were children, but they weren't

2014
01:35:01,133 --> 01:35:02,812
Speaker 5: your children in the second marriage, Is that right? Did

2015
01:35:02,853 --> 01:35:03,333
Speaker 5: I get that right?

2016
01:35:04,253 --> 01:35:04,452
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2017
01:35:04,772 --> 01:35:09,253
Speaker 5: Exactly, But you've still got a great relationship with them, yes.

2018
01:35:09,452 --> 01:35:15,852
Speaker 3: And of course when we were courting I h R

2019
01:35:16,692 --> 01:35:19,892
Speaker 3: because I was living and working on the State of Islands.

2020
01:35:20,612 --> 01:35:22,452
Speaker 9: And when my.

2021
01:35:24,293 --> 01:35:29,652
Speaker 3: H H my fiance would get a letter or hang

2022
01:35:29,772 --> 01:35:31,812
Speaker 3: up after a phone call and say that I was

2023
01:35:31,933 --> 01:35:35,213
Speaker 3: coming out to the mainland. The boys would light up,

2024
01:35:35,293 --> 01:35:38,932
Speaker 3: and he can take us rabbit shooting and take us

2025
01:35:38,973 --> 01:35:42,572
Speaker 3: surfing up at go Orbey. And they began making all

2026
01:35:42,692 --> 01:35:45,652
Speaker 3: sorts of plans, and until she put her foot down

2027
01:35:45,692 --> 01:35:51,813
Speaker 3: and said, ow is my boyfriend not yours. Yeah, that's

2028
01:35:51,893 --> 01:35:53,452
Speaker 3: the tone for our marriage.

2029
01:35:54,893 --> 01:35:57,492
Speaker 2: I don't want to pry too much, but just quickly

2030
01:35:58,133 --> 01:36:01,133
Speaker 2: the marriage the third time, was that hard for you

2031
01:36:01,253 --> 01:36:03,612
Speaker 2: to do considering what what happened in the second marriage?

2032
01:36:05,612 --> 01:36:06,692
Speaker 6: No, no, I.

2033
01:36:09,452 --> 01:36:15,612
Speaker 3: I was a grieving but again I met someone to

2034
01:36:15,812 --> 01:36:22,052
Speaker 3: whom to whom I was with whom I clicked straight away,

2035
01:36:22,612 --> 01:36:28,093
Speaker 3: and her three children all get along extremely well with me.

2036
01:36:29,492 --> 01:36:31,492
Speaker 5: Lee, thank you very much for just before you go,

2037
01:36:31,612 --> 01:36:34,612
Speaker 5: Lee quickly. What was the biggest wedding out of the

2038
01:36:34,692 --> 01:36:38,612
Speaker 5: three The biggest, Yeah, you know like that, the most

2039
01:36:38,692 --> 01:36:39,492
Speaker 5: component ceremony.

2040
01:36:40,732 --> 01:36:46,052
Speaker 3: Oh, the first wedding was the biggest, and the second

2041
01:36:46,213 --> 01:36:52,333
Speaker 3: two were again perhaps more in more modern times, they

2042
01:36:52,372 --> 01:36:56,293
Speaker 3: were sort of right, okay, but yeah, we're attended with

2043
01:36:56,933 --> 01:37:03,293
Speaker 3: pretty much the same number of a wedding guests and relatives.

2044
01:37:04,492 --> 01:37:05,692
Speaker 5: Well, thanks so much for you call Lee.

2045
01:37:05,812 --> 01:37:07,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a story. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

2046
01:37:07,812 --> 01:37:09,652
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call if you've been married

2047
01:37:09,732 --> 01:37:12,133
Speaker 2: multiple times. Really keen to have a chat with you.

2048
01:37:12,692 --> 01:37:14,572
Speaker 2: Headlines with ray Lean coming up.

2049
01:37:15,053 --> 01:37:17,572
Speaker 5: See there's always there's always problems for my theories, and

2050
01:37:17,732 --> 01:37:19,732
Speaker 5: Lee's pointed that out. So it's you know, if your

2051
01:37:19,812 --> 01:37:23,932
Speaker 5: if your second wife passes away tragically, which is said

2052
01:37:23,973 --> 01:37:26,492
Speaker 5: to hear Lee's story, then you can't blame the person

2053
01:37:26,532 --> 01:37:27,172
Speaker 5: for the third.

2054
01:37:27,213 --> 01:37:31,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, they're really clear and then yeah, absolutely right,

2055
01:37:31,732 --> 01:37:35,572
Speaker 2: bang on Hoppers. Headlines with ray Lean coming up.

2056
01:37:38,372 --> 01:37:42,412
Speaker 14: You talk be headlines with Blue Bubble Taxis. It's no

2057
01:37:42,612 --> 01:37:45,772
Speaker 14: trouble with a blue bubble. The government says a side

2058
01:37:45,812 --> 01:37:50,213
Speaker 14: effect of anti money laundering rules, requiring lots of paperwork

2059
01:37:50,293 --> 01:37:53,973
Speaker 14: from parents and banks to open child accounts is overkill.

2060
01:37:54,412 --> 01:37:59,012
Speaker 14: It's making changes to cut back on unnecessary questions. Former

2061
01:37:59,093 --> 01:38:02,852
Speaker 14: Green MP Darling tana Is calling the Regulatory Standards Bill

2062
01:38:03,173 --> 01:38:07,012
Speaker 14: a power grab by act, not to reform. It would

2063
01:38:07,093 --> 01:38:11,213
Speaker 14: require government agents to assess new laws for consistency, but

2064
01:38:11,372 --> 01:38:14,933
Speaker 14: it removes many usual treaty of white tonguey checks and balances.

2065
01:38:16,013 --> 01:38:20,652
Speaker 14: Auckland Children's Theater stalwart Tim Bray has died from cancer.

2066
01:38:20,973 --> 01:38:24,253
Speaker 14: He was sixty one. Ray's company set the standard for

2067
01:38:24,333 --> 01:38:28,532
Speaker 14: kids shows for decades, reworking class children's books for the stage.

2068
01:38:29,772 --> 01:38:32,812
Speaker 14: This years Kiween Miss Universe entrant has a day job

2069
01:38:32,933 --> 01:38:36,012
Speaker 14: far from beauty pageants. With the title won by West

2070
01:38:36,013 --> 01:38:39,532
Speaker 14: Auckland police officer Abby Sturgeon, she'll head to the seventy

2071
01:38:39,612 --> 01:38:44,692
Speaker 14: fourth International Miss Universe and Thailand in November. From fishing

2072
01:38:44,772 --> 01:38:49,412
Speaker 14: shows to first Aid parachute First Aid's Unique Journey, you

2073
01:38:49,492 --> 01:38:52,372
Speaker 14: can see the full story at enzid Herald Premium. Now

2074
01:38:52,452 --> 01:38:54,132
Speaker 14: back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2075
01:39:08,532 --> 01:39:12,092
Speaker 2: Yes, that is the Mister Blobby song from Nole's House

2076
01:39:12,173 --> 01:39:15,053
Speaker 2: Party that brings back some beautiful memories. I just had

2077
01:39:15,093 --> 01:39:17,892
Speaker 2: a deep dive into mister Blobby. He had a number

2078
01:39:17,933 --> 01:39:20,772
Speaker 2: one Christmas song in nineteen ninety three. He was on

2079
01:39:20,893 --> 01:39:22,133
Speaker 2: the top charts for one week.

2080
01:39:22,732 --> 01:39:26,412
Speaker 5: It brings back beautiful memories, punishing memories. Asn't the whole

2081
01:39:26,452 --> 01:39:31,452
Speaker 5: point of mister Blobby that it was incredibly punishing and annoying. Yeah,

2082
01:39:31,572 --> 01:39:32,452
Speaker 5: that was the gag.

2083
01:39:32,692 --> 01:39:34,293
Speaker 2: It was quite an unusual show, but I think I

2084
01:39:34,372 --> 01:39:36,213
Speaker 2: was too young to kind of No.

2085
01:39:36,492 --> 01:39:39,093
Speaker 5: I'm not not questioning the whole of Nole's House Party.

2086
01:39:39,372 --> 01:39:42,412
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that the particular joke of mister Blobby,

2087
01:39:42,492 --> 01:39:44,812
Speaker 5: and I think there was an issue with our beloved

2088
01:39:44,893 --> 01:39:48,492
Speaker 5: Hudson and Hall being slightly humiliated on Knowle's House Party

2089
01:39:48,492 --> 01:39:50,812
Speaker 5: as well. So I think Keywi's have a slight problem

2090
01:39:50,853 --> 01:39:53,412
Speaker 5: with Norwegman. I'll look into that one. Yeah, but yeah,

2091
01:39:53,612 --> 01:39:55,133
Speaker 5: you go, mister Blobby. I don't think it was meant

2092
01:39:55,133 --> 01:39:56,893
Speaker 5: to be good, mister Blobby. That's my point. I like

2093
01:39:57,013 --> 01:40:01,093
Speaker 5: it's comedy that was funny in its punishment.

2094
01:40:00,812 --> 01:40:01,572
Speaker 2: Meant to be cringe.

2095
01:40:01,772 --> 01:40:03,772
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't know it meant to be cringe.

2096
01:40:03,812 --> 01:40:05,213
Speaker 5: I think it was more just meant to be a

2097
01:40:05,412 --> 01:40:07,652
Speaker 5: parody of horrific child's television.

2098
01:40:08,372 --> 01:40:10,572
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten, eighties. We are talking

2099
01:40:10,572 --> 01:40:12,652
Speaker 2: about mister Blobby because we're talking about Noel Edmonds. He

2100
01:40:12,732 --> 01:40:15,213
Speaker 2: is getting married to his third wife for the fifth time,

2101
01:40:15,253 --> 01:40:17,133
Speaker 2: and that's what we're talking about. If you've been married

2102
01:40:17,213 --> 01:40:19,452
Speaker 2: multiple times, love to hear from you on oh eight

2103
01:40:19,572 --> 01:40:23,012
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. Quite a few ticks coming through,

2104
01:40:23,053 --> 01:40:26,372
Speaker 2: and a lot of Kiwis have been married three times.

2105
01:40:27,452 --> 01:40:30,372
Speaker 2: This one here, I am my sorry.

2106
01:40:30,213 --> 01:40:34,012
Speaker 5: You go mat. I am my husband's third wife, my second.

2107
01:40:35,293 --> 01:40:37,892
Speaker 5: He arranged a surprise marriage to happen during a surprise

2108
01:40:37,973 --> 01:40:40,692
Speaker 5: fiftieth birthday party that was nine years ago. We are

2109
01:40:40,893 --> 01:40:43,092
Speaker 5: very happy with each other. So I am my husband's

2110
01:40:43,133 --> 01:40:46,492
Speaker 5: third wife. But that's her second, all right, there you guys.

2111
01:40:46,492 --> 01:40:49,293
Speaker 5: Seems seems like he's still a pretty romantic guy even

2112
01:40:49,293 --> 01:40:53,492
Speaker 5: though it's the third, third wedding, Yeah, third marriage, surprise

2113
01:40:53,612 --> 01:40:56,933
Speaker 5: fiftieth birthday party. Very hang in a minute, can you

2114
01:40:57,053 --> 01:40:59,772
Speaker 5: do that? Can you just throw a surprise marriage? Can

2115
01:40:59,812 --> 01:41:03,772
Speaker 5: you throw a surprise wedding? Doesn't the lady you want

2116
01:41:03,812 --> 01:41:05,773
Speaker 5: to bloody organize everything'd.

2117
01:41:05,372 --> 01:41:07,333
Speaker 2: Be pretty awkward if she turns up and see his hand.

2118
01:41:07,372 --> 01:41:09,053
Speaker 2: On a minute, I don't want any part of us.

2119
01:41:10,053 --> 01:41:11,092
Speaker 2: It's a hell of a gamble.

2120
01:41:11,853 --> 01:41:15,213
Speaker 5: It's like those proposals as stadiums in the States. There's

2121
01:41:15,253 --> 01:41:17,972
Speaker 5: a compilation of like dudes getting down on their knees

2122
01:41:18,013 --> 01:41:19,933
Speaker 5: and the and the woman just going no.

2123
01:41:21,452 --> 01:41:24,652
Speaker 2: Yeah that ever had at c that is very cringe.

2124
01:41:25,652 --> 01:41:26,892
Speaker 2: And how are you this afternoon?

2125
01:41:27,732 --> 01:41:28,652
Speaker 16: I'm great, Thank you.

2126
01:41:28,973 --> 01:41:29,692
Speaker 15: How are you guys?

2127
01:41:30,213 --> 01:41:32,732
Speaker 2: Very good? Now? How many times have you been married?

2128
01:41:33,893 --> 01:41:34,532
Speaker 7: Two and a half?

2129
01:41:35,772 --> 01:41:37,213
Speaker 2: Okay, tell do you do a half?

2130
01:41:37,372 --> 01:41:38,173
Speaker 5: How do you do a half in?

2131
01:41:39,372 --> 01:41:40,852
Speaker 17: Because I'm not married to them?

2132
01:41:41,772 --> 01:41:42,133
Speaker 6: All right?

2133
01:41:43,333 --> 01:41:45,652
Speaker 7: So two and a half first time?

2134
01:41:46,173 --> 01:41:48,692
Speaker 17: I was too young when we get married. But we

2135
01:41:48,812 --> 01:41:53,173
Speaker 17: were married for twenty six years and I left second time?

2136
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Speaker 17: Or fifteen years?

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01:41:56,213 --> 01:41:58,133
Speaker 5: How long? But how long between those two? How long

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01:41:58,173 --> 01:41:58,732
Speaker 5: between one and.

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01:41:58,772 --> 01:42:00,652
Speaker 12: Two and three?

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01:42:01,812 --> 01:42:02,692
Speaker 8: But three years?

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01:42:03,013 --> 01:42:04,732
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah?

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01:42:04,973 --> 01:42:11,013
Speaker 20: And I'm th one war was like three years as well.

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01:42:11,772 --> 01:42:15,293
Speaker 20: But this one, I think because we're both older and

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01:42:15,492 --> 01:42:20,973
Speaker 20: he's never been married, it's a different.

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01:42:21,173 --> 01:42:21,692
Speaker 6: Sort of thing.

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01:42:22,492 --> 01:42:22,933
Speaker 12: It's not.

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01:42:24,532 --> 01:42:27,093
Speaker 17: It's quite hard to explain. We don't have the same

2148
01:42:27,253 --> 01:42:29,973
Speaker 17: worries I did when I was married. You know, we

2149
01:42:30,173 --> 01:42:31,812
Speaker 17: do a rwin thing.

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01:42:31,973 --> 01:42:36,333
Speaker 20: But both of my marriages we told everyone afterwards.

2151
01:42:38,532 --> 01:42:42,412
Speaker 17: Because we didn't neither was neither of my husbands or

2152
01:42:42,532 --> 01:42:44,333
Speaker 17: I wanted the big flashy wedding.

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01:42:44,572 --> 01:42:47,572
Speaker 8: So wel I elope twice.

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01:42:47,732 --> 01:42:47,812
Speaker 15: So.

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01:42:49,853 --> 01:42:52,692
Speaker 20: I think I should work for the big quite flashy wedding.

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01:42:53,612 --> 01:42:55,732
Speaker 20: You have to get that from my next birthday.

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01:42:56,372 --> 01:42:59,372
Speaker 5: So are you even though you're not married, you're as

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01:42:59,452 --> 01:43:02,093
Speaker 5: committed to your current partner as you were the ones

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01:43:02,133 --> 01:43:02,772
Speaker 5: you were married to.

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01:43:03,173 --> 01:43:08,133
Speaker 17: Yes, yes, yes, As I say, the first one was

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01:43:08,412 --> 01:43:12,253
Speaker 17: definitely like, I was only twenty when we got married,

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01:43:14,053 --> 01:43:17,852
Speaker 17: and then we had our first son within a year,

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01:43:18,732 --> 01:43:22,412
Speaker 17: and it was for me. I hadn't even left home

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01:43:23,053 --> 01:43:27,772
Speaker 17: before I got married, so yeah, and I had come

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01:43:27,893 --> 01:43:32,053
Speaker 17: from New Zealand, from Scotland to New Zealand, so for

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01:43:32,213 --> 01:43:35,532
Speaker 17: me it was a thing. And then I just suddenly

2167
01:43:35,692 --> 01:43:39,492
Speaker 17: realized that I had grown up and I hadn't lived life,

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01:43:39,732 --> 01:43:43,933
Speaker 17: if that makes any sense, you know, detriment to my

2169
01:43:44,772 --> 01:43:48,893
Speaker 17: ex husband, It was me, I just grew up. The

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01:43:49,013 --> 01:43:50,972
Speaker 17: second one wasn't my fault.

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01:43:51,053 --> 01:43:51,772
Speaker 3: It was his fault.

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01:43:51,853 --> 01:43:55,213
Speaker 17: He took off with someone thirty years younger, and I thought,

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01:43:55,253 --> 01:43:56,253
Speaker 17: I'm not hanging around.

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01:43:57,293 --> 01:44:01,972
Speaker 20: So but this one, we're both mature and I think

2175
01:44:02,093 --> 01:44:02,692
Speaker 20: I've learned.

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01:44:03,812 --> 01:44:08,093
Speaker 5: So if you went to your current partner, you know,

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01:44:09,253 --> 01:44:12,012
Speaker 5: you know, I reckon. I would like to get married,

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01:44:12,133 --> 01:44:15,572
Speaker 5: and I want to have a massive white wedding with

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01:44:16,093 --> 01:44:21,452
Speaker 5: absolutely everything, with the reception, marquees everywhere, you know, tens

2180
01:44:21,492 --> 01:44:23,372
Speaker 5: of thousands of dollars worth a bubbles. Do you think

2181
01:44:23,412 --> 01:44:24,133
Speaker 5: he would go for it?

2182
01:44:25,213 --> 01:44:26,213
Speaker 12: I think he would be.

2183
01:44:30,612 --> 01:44:31,532
Speaker 7: I'm just thinking.

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01:44:31,812 --> 01:44:35,132
Speaker 20: But we are so so different, you know, you couldn't

2185
01:44:35,173 --> 01:44:40,693
Speaker 20: get two more different people, like my own grandkids.

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01:44:41,692 --> 01:44:45,133
Speaker 17: He's very quite quiet, Grammy, He's not like you.

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01:44:47,173 --> 01:44:50,412
Speaker 5: Now I've got to ask this question the second one,

2188
01:44:50,893 --> 01:44:55,293
Speaker 5: the second husband that ran off with the person thirty

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01:44:55,412 --> 01:44:58,652
Speaker 5: years his junior. Did that marriage last or did that

2190
01:44:58,692 --> 01:45:01,372
Speaker 5: blow up in his face and they didn't get married?

2191
01:45:01,532 --> 01:45:01,572
Speaker 19: No?

2192
01:45:03,452 --> 01:45:06,293
Speaker 20: No it didn't. Yeah, it didn't last.

2193
01:45:06,652 --> 01:45:10,612
Speaker 17: But I think in many ways I heard you talk,

2194
01:45:10,772 --> 01:45:13,772
Speaker 17: I'm someone talking about the love of their life.

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01:45:13,973 --> 01:45:19,133
Speaker 20: I think that marriage was so it was really hard

2196
01:45:19,253 --> 01:45:25,012
Speaker 20: to go over it, and that I thought never again, Yeah, never,

2197
01:45:25,452 --> 01:45:26,132
Speaker 20: never again.

2198
01:45:26,572 --> 01:45:28,173
Speaker 5: Do you have any do you have any contact with

2199
01:45:28,293 --> 01:45:29,852
Speaker 5: this that that that gentleman?

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01:45:32,213 --> 01:45:35,532
Speaker 20: Hey, this is going to sound weird, and every once

2201
01:45:36,093 --> 01:45:41,452
Speaker 20: his mother is my best friend. We traveled or receive together,

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01:45:43,372 --> 01:45:48,652
Speaker 20: and people go, you're kidding me that he and I

2203
01:45:49,093 --> 01:45:50,532
Speaker 20: are really good friends.

2204
01:45:52,053 --> 01:45:54,013
Speaker 5: That's good, But there must have been that must have

2205
01:45:54,093 --> 01:45:56,293
Speaker 5: been a bit complex for a while when you were

2206
01:45:56,333 --> 01:46:00,253
Speaker 5: still hurting after the the infidelity or whatever.

2207
01:46:01,372 --> 01:46:04,933
Speaker 20: No, because she backed me, she was, you know, like

2208
01:46:05,133 --> 01:46:05,652
Speaker 20: I left.

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01:46:05,933 --> 01:46:08,413
Speaker 8: We lived in Auckland, and I left.

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01:46:08,173 --> 01:46:12,933
Speaker 20: I moved out of Auckland and my ex mother in

2211
01:46:13,053 --> 01:46:16,452
Speaker 20: law lived up there, and she was still very very

2212
01:46:16,572 --> 01:46:23,973
Speaker 20: supportive of me. They for me, that one was traumatic,

2213
01:46:24,093 --> 01:46:27,692
Speaker 20: but I had the support of people like that that

2214
01:46:27,893 --> 01:46:31,452
Speaker 20: you wouldn't think about. You know, people go, my god,

2215
01:46:31,652 --> 01:46:33,812
Speaker 20: just had your ex mother in law to stay with

2216
01:46:34,013 --> 01:46:35,572
Speaker 20: you with your boyfriend.

2217
01:46:38,053 --> 01:46:40,492
Speaker 5: Well, you know, there's so many different ways to do things,

2218
01:46:40,612 --> 01:46:42,852
Speaker 5: isn't here? Whatever works? Thank you so much for you call. Anne.

2219
01:46:42,853 --> 01:46:45,532
Speaker 5: Appreciate it. Thanks for sharing that, and good luck getting

2220
01:46:45,612 --> 01:46:48,452
Speaker 5: the eighty thousand dollars marriage across the line with your

2221
01:46:48,853 --> 01:46:49,492
Speaker 5: two and a half.

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01:46:49,732 --> 01:46:53,093
Speaker 2: Exactly, Good luck, Anne. It is eighteen to four. Beg

2223
01:46:53,213 --> 01:46:54,013
Speaker 2: very shortly.

2224
01:46:55,853 --> 01:46:59,973
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk man Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons

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01:47:00,253 --> 01:47:02,972
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty you talk.

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01:47:02,893 --> 01:47:06,253
Speaker 2: Said, be sixteen to four. We're talking about getting married

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01:47:06,333 --> 01:47:08,852
Speaker 2: multiple times, plenty of time that's coming through.

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01:47:09,213 --> 01:47:11,612
Speaker 5: I remember having a great divorce party, says this text.

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01:47:11,652 --> 01:47:14,253
Speaker 5: So did Noel Edmonds have four divorce parties? That would

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01:47:14,253 --> 01:47:16,772
Speaker 5: be the only reason to remarry the same woman, Steve

2231
01:47:17,652 --> 01:47:22,132
Speaker 5: divorce party. Yeah, I think, look we might be victim

2232
01:47:22,253 --> 01:47:25,173
Speaker 5: of a publicity's done there, and look we're happy to

2233
01:47:25,213 --> 01:47:27,213
Speaker 5: be victims of a publicities, don't. I think the fact

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01:47:27,213 --> 01:47:29,892
Speaker 5: that Noel Evans has a new reality TV show out

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01:47:30,093 --> 01:47:34,053
Speaker 5: might somehow be rated related to his wedding to the

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01:47:34,093 --> 01:47:34,532
Speaker 5: same woman.

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01:47:34,692 --> 01:47:36,732
Speaker 2: You might be onto something. Would no do that? I mean,

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01:47:36,812 --> 01:47:39,293
Speaker 2: for reference, it's called Noel Edmonds Key We adventures for

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01:47:39,333 --> 01:47:42,572
Speaker 2: three parts here, put Around and at State. And he

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Speaker 2: did not pay us to say that.

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Speaker 5: Totally above board?

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01:47:45,853 --> 01:47:47,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, John, how are you?

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01:47:48,412 --> 01:47:51,412
Speaker 11: Yeah? John? Yeah, well thinks And.

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01:47:51,532 --> 01:47:53,333
Speaker 2: You're being married two times?

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01:47:53,452 --> 01:47:53,812
Speaker 3: Is that right?

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01:47:54,812 --> 01:47:59,492
Speaker 11: Let's right? Yes, I have been married twice and my

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01:47:59,652 --> 01:48:01,173
Speaker 11: now wife for three times.

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01:48:02,372 --> 01:48:05,492
Speaker 5: Oh wow, And so did you Are they all sort

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01:48:05,532 --> 01:48:08,732
Speaker 5: of reaffirming your love marriages or did you break up

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01:48:08,772 --> 01:48:10,333
Speaker 5: and get back together and get remarried?

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01:48:11,452 --> 01:48:17,053
Speaker 11: Okay? My story is my first wife. We known each

2252
01:48:17,093 --> 01:48:24,692
Speaker 11: other nearly sixty years, married fifty six, and she lingered

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01:48:24,732 --> 01:48:29,372
Speaker 11: with Luncenter for five years. They did a great job,

2254
01:48:29,492 --> 01:48:33,173
Speaker 11: was done by hospice, and she died in her own bed,

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01:48:33,253 --> 01:48:38,612
Speaker 11: which was her wish. And then I I was fine,

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01:48:38,692 --> 01:48:41,852
Speaker 11: I was have you tell her? I did my greeting

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01:48:42,013 --> 01:48:49,013
Speaker 11: and and got on with life. But sort of light

2258
01:48:49,093 --> 01:48:53,452
Speaker 11: bulb went off and I thought one of my first

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01:48:53,532 --> 01:48:58,612
Speaker 11: girlfriends still about So I finally got her phone number

2260
01:48:59,652 --> 01:49:03,933
Speaker 11: to know she was still still with us, and I

2261
01:49:04,093 --> 01:49:08,973
Speaker 11: ran here and said, do you ever remember John back

2262
01:49:09,013 --> 01:49:12,652
Speaker 11: in the day, And she said, that's you, John and

2263
01:49:12,812 --> 01:49:19,173
Speaker 11: so and we spoke for about an hour and she

2264
01:49:19,253 --> 01:49:21,492
Speaker 11: had a cleaner there at the time, and the cleaner said,

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01:49:22,772 --> 01:49:27,852
Speaker 11: you're right, Gene. She had sort of just exhausted, and

2266
01:49:27,973 --> 01:49:30,252
Speaker 11: she said, yeah, I'm fine, but that was my first boyfriend.

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01:49:31,253 --> 01:49:35,812
Speaker 11: And that was well now seventy years ago.

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01:49:36,372 --> 01:49:41,012
Speaker 5: Oh wow, So that that was a successful move by you, John.

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01:49:41,053 --> 01:49:43,133
Speaker 11: You've got to say, well, the result of that was

2270
01:49:43,293 --> 01:49:47,892
Speaker 11: we were married. Although she did say to me up

2271
01:49:47,933 --> 01:49:51,572
Speaker 11: here on the North Shore, she visited, you know, I

2272
01:49:51,612 --> 01:49:58,572
Speaker 11: could never get married a third time. And I said, well, okay,

2273
01:49:59,053 --> 01:50:01,612
Speaker 11: to what if I asked you? She said, well, ask

2274
01:50:01,692 --> 01:50:07,812
Speaker 11: me and the results we were married three years ago.

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01:50:08,652 --> 01:50:12,013
Speaker 2: Oh, John, what a beautiful story. I mean, that is,

2276
01:50:13,013 --> 01:50:15,333
Speaker 2: you know, very very sad for his first wife. But

2277
01:50:15,412 --> 01:50:17,692
Speaker 2: the you know, to find a high school sweetheart.

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01:50:18,013 --> 01:50:19,372
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, John's a romantic.

2279
01:50:19,492 --> 01:50:22,053
Speaker 2: I love that absolutely. John, Thank you very much for

2280
01:50:22,093 --> 01:50:25,612
Speaker 2: giving us a Buzzkida Stephen, good evening there.

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01:50:26,732 --> 01:50:30,652
Speaker 19: Yeah, I seaven here. Now we've been married sixty one years.

2282
01:50:31,452 --> 01:50:37,412
Speaker 19: It's good innings so and still going strong. But people

2283
01:50:37,452 --> 01:50:43,372
Speaker 19: who have multiple marriages, I can only think of two words,

2284
01:50:44,133 --> 01:50:46,972
Speaker 19: am I either brave or silly?

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01:50:49,532 --> 01:50:49,692
Speaker 14: Yeah?

2286
01:50:49,812 --> 01:50:50,012
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:50:51,093 --> 01:50:54,492
Speaker 19: The reason why I say it is because fats have

2288
01:50:54,652 --> 01:50:55,892
Speaker 19: with all those brother in law's.

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01:50:57,532 --> 01:50:59,132
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes exactly, Stephen.

2290
01:50:59,213 --> 01:50:59,372
Speaker 4: Yep.

2291
01:50:59,933 --> 01:51:02,213
Speaker 2: Course step wasn't quite sure what side of the column

2292
01:51:02,213 --> 01:51:05,333
Speaker 2: he fitted on their brave, brave or silly? But clearly

2293
01:51:05,452 --> 01:51:07,572
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people going for marriage number

2294
01:51:07,652 --> 01:51:09,492
Speaker 2: three and third times the chart.

2295
01:51:09,532 --> 01:51:12,093
Speaker 5: Well, the big question here, before you know we put

2296
01:51:12,173 --> 01:51:14,093
Speaker 5: this topic to bed is when are you going to

2297
01:51:14,253 --> 01:51:17,692
Speaker 5: drop the knee, Tyler? I mean when are you? When

2298
01:51:17,772 --> 01:51:21,692
Speaker 5: are you gonna man up and ask your lovely partner

2299
01:51:22,093 --> 01:51:25,333
Speaker 5: mate for her hand? When you when are you going

2300
01:51:25,372 --> 01:51:25,492
Speaker 5: to go?

2301
01:51:26,013 --> 01:51:27,932
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of time since you've bring this up, actually,

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01:51:27,973 --> 01:51:30,612
Speaker 2: which probably says a lot about my situation. Should we

2303
01:51:30,772 --> 01:51:31,612
Speaker 2: should we bring this up?

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01:51:31,772 --> 01:51:32,093
Speaker 18: When are we?

2305
01:51:32,213 --> 01:51:32,333
Speaker 19: Now?

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01:51:33,013 --> 01:51:34,412
Speaker 2: Which July? Do you want to bring this up in

2307
01:51:34,452 --> 01:51:35,173
Speaker 2: July next year?

2308
01:51:35,253 --> 01:51:38,173
Speaker 5: And we'll see. Well, there's a lot of people starting

2309
01:51:38,253 --> 01:51:41,132
Speaker 5: to wonder when are you actually gonna take the plunge?

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01:51:41,253 --> 01:51:43,852
Speaker 5: I mean, how long have you been together? Long enough?

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01:51:44,013 --> 01:51:47,812
Speaker 5: You've moved from christ Church to Aukland together. Just when

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01:51:47,812 --> 01:51:49,173
Speaker 5: are you gonna do it? Buddy? A lot of people

2313
01:51:49,173 --> 01:51:49,612
Speaker 5: are wondering.

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01:51:49,652 --> 01:51:50,933
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. If you want to take a

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01:51:50,973 --> 01:51:54,212
Speaker 2: guest nine two nine two, we'll do a sweep steaks

2316
01:51:54,412 --> 01:51:56,293
Speaker 2: and and you can have one of Met's heads if

2317
01:51:56,333 --> 01:51:59,133
Speaker 2: you get it right, We're going to take a break.

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01:51:59,253 --> 01:52:00,692
Speaker 2: It is eleven minutes to four.

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01:52:00,732 --> 01:52:01,732
Speaker 5: Beg brute shortly go.

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01:52:03,812 --> 01:52:07,213
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:52:07,532 --> 01:52:11,492
Speaker 1: everything in the two Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

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01:52:11,173 --> 01:52:13,612
Speaker 4: Used Talk sedby News Talk sedby.

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01:52:14,093 --> 01:52:17,652
Speaker 2: It is eight to four. A few texts to wrap

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01:52:17,772 --> 01:52:21,372
Speaker 2: up this conversation. A fellow I know got married for

2325
01:52:21,452 --> 01:52:24,452
Speaker 2: the third time at his property. He lied to everyone

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01:52:24,532 --> 01:52:26,333
Speaker 2: to get them to come around, then told them it

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01:52:26,452 --> 01:52:28,732
Speaker 2: was a surprise winning Most people said, baga, that we.

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01:52:30,372 --> 01:52:30,572
Speaker 8: See.

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01:52:30,732 --> 01:52:32,812
Speaker 5: I think people are suspicious of the third wedding. And look,

2330
01:52:32,853 --> 01:52:34,492
Speaker 5: there's a lot of reasons why you might have it,

2331
01:52:34,572 --> 01:52:36,772
Speaker 5: and a lot of justified reasons that people have rung

2332
01:52:36,812 --> 01:52:39,932
Speaker 5: it and said. But I think especially there's certain people,

2333
01:52:40,372 --> 01:52:46,932
Speaker 5: there's certain philandering, unfaithful friends of mine that I'm definitely

2334
01:52:46,973 --> 01:52:48,572
Speaker 5: not turning up to the fourth wedding, that's for sure.

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01:52:48,652 --> 01:52:49,293
Speaker 2: You know who you are.

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01:52:49,492 --> 01:52:53,213
Speaker 5: No, I'll be there if there's wine and song, if.

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01:52:53,133 --> 01:52:54,772
Speaker 2: There's a return on investment on your part.

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01:52:54,853 --> 01:52:55,053
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:52:55,053 --> 01:52:58,532
Speaker 2: Absolutely. This one here says, get guys, I had my

2340
01:52:58,612 --> 01:53:00,612
Speaker 2: third marriage two years ago. We have been together for

2341
01:53:00,732 --> 01:53:03,892
Speaker 2: twenty five years. First one I was twenty years old,

2342
01:53:03,973 --> 01:53:06,053
Speaker 2: far too young. Second one was abuse of the third one,

2343
01:53:06,133 --> 01:53:08,452
Speaker 2: we'll last have to say the third one was the

2344
01:53:08,532 --> 01:53:09,772
Speaker 2: best of all three.

2345
01:53:10,333 --> 01:53:12,973
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean the abuse of marriages and the

2346
01:53:13,133 --> 01:53:16,452
Speaker 5: marriages where someone tragically parts pass away don't count in

2347
01:53:16,532 --> 01:53:18,932
Speaker 5: the obviously, don't count in your and your your tally

2348
01:53:19,053 --> 01:53:22,692
Speaker 5: do they No, because because they're obviously very legitimate ends

2349
01:53:22,812 --> 01:53:23,612
Speaker 5: of a marriage.

2350
01:53:23,772 --> 01:53:26,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, if your partner cheats on you, you know exactly.

2351
01:53:27,893 --> 01:53:31,333
Speaker 2: And this one here, separating from my first wife, now

2352
01:53:31,412 --> 01:53:33,972
Speaker 2: we have a difference of opinion. She believes she does everything.

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Speaker 2: I believe. The psychiatrist she sacked because she didn't agree

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Speaker 2: with the diagnosis persa. Anyone came for a wedding and annulment.

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Speaker 2: So I can move straight to the lucky third from Carlos.

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Speaker 2: That sounds messic, garloss, So good luck with that. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you're selling yourself, Carlos, all Right, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for all your phone calls and texts

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Speaker 2: on that. Really enjoyed that discussion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and thank you so much for your great New

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Speaker 5: Zealands for listening to the show today. And look, thanks

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Speaker 5: for all your calls and texts, not just on that

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Speaker 5: subject but on all the subjects today. We had a

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Speaker 5: great time chatting. I hope you did too. Them At

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Speaker 5: and Tyler. Afternoon's podcast will be in about an hour

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Speaker 5: or so. So if you missed our chats on getting

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Speaker 5: your bloody kids to school when they don't want to

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Speaker 5: go or zoos are they amazing or evil? Then follow

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Speaker 5: our podcast review get Them Tyler? Why am I playing

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Speaker 5: this song?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: That is due to start in about ten seconds, but.

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Speaker 5: Because I want to talk about it right now? Why

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Speaker 5: is it starting in ten seconds?

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Speaker 13: Here we go?

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Speaker 2: It is county five four?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Why am I playing the song right now?

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Speaker 2: A bit of the Beatles? I am the Warres. Great

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Speaker 2: chat about zoos. I think we were talking about seals

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Speaker 2: rather than walrises. But what a great choice well done

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Speaker 2: you have.

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Speaker 5: Now you can get a Warris in a zoo, can't you?

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Speaker 20: You can?

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Speaker 2: Beautiful animal zoo's good or bad?

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Speaker 5: Listen to our podcast for right now. Thanks for listening everyone,

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Speaker 5: See you tomorrow AVO. Until then, give the taste to

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Speaker 3: By the Eggman, They are the.

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Speaker 5: Pretty little policeman in a room.

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Speaker 4: See how they fire.

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Speaker 3: Like Lucy in the skisin.

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Speaker 3: I'm crying, I'm crying.

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Speaker 4: I'm crying.

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Speaker 5: I'm going.

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Speaker 5: a naughty girl.

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Speaker 4: You're letting nickers down.

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Speaker 8: I am the egg Man.

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Speaker 5: I are the egg Man, Hell the.

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Speaker 2: Wars Cuckoo job.

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