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Speaker 2: Hello you Great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, three six four, the

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Speaker 2: thirtieth of May, in the Year of Our Lord, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. A fantastic show. We announced the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: of the week, where should were going to say all

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Speaker 2: this stuff? I don't know why I say what we

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Speaker 2: say what we need to say in this intro is

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Speaker 2: your great New Zealanders, thanks for tuning in and all

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. But we don't need to say

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Speaker 2: what's on the show because we then announced that all

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Speaker 2: we need to say is what's not on the show.

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Speaker 2: What's not on the show is we don't really get

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Speaker 2: around to talking about water.

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Speaker 3: Well we kind of do, but we're going to have.

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Speaker 2: To briefly, we got bogged down and fat shaming and

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Speaker 2: also we got bogged down.

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Speaker 4: And party partying in your twenties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's so many good calls, and boy boy,

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Speaker 2: the lines were packed, and you know, more and more

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Speaker 2: people keep coming to.

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Speaker 4: The show every week, so it's bloody beautiful to have

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Speaker 4: you all on board.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really good show today, download, subscribe, give us a review.

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Speaker 3: You friendesday, your family, love you.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 5: Well, good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the show Friday seven pass one. Great to

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Speaker 3: have your company as always and we always are hep,

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Speaker 3: you're on a Friday, good feeling hit of a long weekend.

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Speaker 6: Two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, excited about that.

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Speaker 2: Also excited to be in the Kitty Woodham Studio, the

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Speaker 2: Honorary Studio. It's the studio we've we moved out of

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Speaker 2: the mic Costing Memorial Studio into this smaller but cozier

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Speaker 2: and kind of more stylish studio.

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Speaker 3: Smells a lot nicer in here as well. I've got

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Speaker 3: to say, so happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: But the buttons are different. So if any mistakes, that's

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Speaker 2: just teething issues, all right. By teething is issues, I

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Speaker 2: mean Tyler's folt.

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Speaker 3: Now, before we move on to what's on the show today.

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Speaker 3: Of the Music Awards, one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was watching the tout on Music Awards

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Speaker 2: last night and bless them, we have some very talented

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Speaker 2: musicians in this country and great to honor them, But

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Speaker 2: I reckon before any awards anywhere in the world, this

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Speaker 2: message from Ricky Gervas that the twenty twenty Golden Globes

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Speaker 2: should be played twice.

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Speaker 7: If you do win an award tonight, don't use it

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Speaker 7: as a platform to make a political speech. Right, You're

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Speaker 7: in no position to lecture the public about anything.

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Speaker 4: You know nothing about the real world.

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Speaker 7: Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thumburg.

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Speaker 7: So if you win, right, come up, accept your little award,

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Speaker 7: thank your agent and your god.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there should be some kind of global by law

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Speaker 2: where it has to be played twice at the start

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Speaker 2: of the night, so would make things a lot more entertaining.

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Speaker 2: You're good at music, but your riskmaker, dick yourself if

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Speaker 2: you don't leave it at that. You know, and you're

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Speaker 2: not saying anything that's controversial for the room.

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Speaker 4: You and are you anyway?

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Speaker 2: You're on them some great stuff coming out of our

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Speaker 2: fine country and the world of music.

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Speaker 3: So good on you, beautifully said, Right on to today's

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Speaker 3: show after three o'clock, as we always do on a Friday,

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Speaker 3: New Zealander of the Week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Tyler. Who could it be? The jury

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Speaker 4: is still out, so nine two nine two.

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Speaker 2: If you've got a suggestion for New Zealander of the Week,

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Speaker 2: we'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 4: And remember the New Zealand of the Week.

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Speaker 2: I met in Tyler afternoons and zib isn't always an

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Speaker 2: agent of good. It's at the time magazine person of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just the water Corner news and that we talked

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Speaker 3: about this week after three o'clock. Also we're going to

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Speaker 3: mayor and Nigel Bowen he's got an invitation for everybody

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Speaker 3: So Timatoo took it out within thee I should say,

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five EXOM National Water Taste Test Competition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah today tomorrow tim Moreu has the best water in

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Speaker 2: And there's the water any good where you are?

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Speaker 4: I'd see.

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Speaker 2: You know, I said this, I've said this before, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it keeps you alive as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it can keep you alive with just a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is after three o'clock, looking forward to that

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Speaker 3: discussion after two o'clock. Most of us know the Tina

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got that. We've got the line here,

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Speaker 4: So it was basically, what was.

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Speaker 3: but effect it was Tina, we're in the fat sou

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Speaker 3: But we know it's a very poetic, catchy song that

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Speaker 2: We'll get that audio few But look, the ASA, the

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Speaker 2: to say that on an AD, does that mean that

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Speaker 2: we're all allowed to joke about weight again? Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: Exactly? That is after two o'clock and after one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Well that's right now. First time by activity peaked at

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Speaker 2: Thirty seven seems quite old to be buying your first

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: How many people in their late thirties and forties and

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Speaker 4: I mean, how old were you when you bought your

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Speaker 3: I was thirty four, right, so that's up there.

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Speaker 2: And do you ever walk around going, God, I wish

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Speaker 2: i'd bought a house ten years earlier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, ten years earlier, Yes you said ten years later.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. If I had purchased a property in my twenties,

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Speaker 2: And we know that it's hard to get your first house,

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Speaker 2: but it's not impossible, and judging by these numbers, a

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Speaker 2: So are we just, for want of a bit of

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Speaker 2: a word, pissing around too much in our lives? Do

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Speaker 2: give up on living the luxurious life and just get

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Speaker 2: on with the things, get on with buy getting on

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Speaker 2: with starting a family, get on with getting on with

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Speaker 2: rack it up.

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Speaker 4: In your forties, rack it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you did

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Speaker 3: it the way that a lot of younger people were

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Speaker 3: get stuck into your career and you wait until you

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Speaker 3: to hear from you, was that looking back now, maybe

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Speaker 3: a bit of a mistake or are you're very happy

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Speaker 3: that you've got some travel in now?

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Speaker 2: I thought Mike Costking said some interesting words to say

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Speaker 2: about this on the Breakfast Show this morning.

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Speaker 9: There's a whole generation of people out there that have

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Speaker 9: absolutely convinced themselves that home ownership is beyond them, and

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Speaker 9: it's not. And we've got living proof in this building

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Speaker 9: that there are people in their low twenties who have

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Speaker 9: gone out and bought houses for themselves. And it just

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Speaker 9: depends on how you view life, what your aspirations are,

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Speaker 9: what your priorities are. But what I do know in

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Speaker 9: life is that old saying, if you think you're going

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Speaker 9: to failure, correct you will. And if you genuinely believe

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Speaker 9: you can never do something, you're correct, you won't. And

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Speaker 9: so until we amend that slightly, stats a quarter of

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Speaker 9: all sales are first time buyers, So there were always

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Speaker 4: I remember when we were young.

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Speaker 2: My partner, she was was how I just goed this

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Speaker 2: a successful rock star and she got a huge payout

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Speaker 2: and another member of the band said, you guys should

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Speaker 2: use that for a deposit for a house, and we went,

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Speaker 2: I reckon.

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Speaker 4: We'll just travel around the world for a while with

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Speaker 4: that and rack it up and parting.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good time. And it was a fantastic time.

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Speaker 2: But I look back at that decision and so does

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Speaker 2: she and goes, you know, maybe we should listen to

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Speaker 2: you know, you always listen to the drummer in the band.

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Speaker 4: That's the smartest. That's a general rule anyway in life.

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Are we leaving things too late in life? Particularly when

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Speaker 3: it comes to buying property. The average age of the

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Speaker 3: first time buyer in Auckland is now thirty seven. That

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Speaker 3: is certainly getting up there. Love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So are you willing to forego all the other exciting,

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Speaker 2: youthful things in life to just jump on the product

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Speaker 2: property ladder?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? Or did you buy late and you're happy

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Speaker 4: with it?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used Talk.

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Speaker 3: ZEDB News Talk zed B and we're talking about buying

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Speaker 3: property as a first home buyer. The activity peaked at

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Speaker 3: twenty five percent earlier this year. That is above the

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Speaker 3: long term average. So this is on the back of

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Speaker 3: a new report by Westpac New Zealand. But those first

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Speaker 2: At thirty seven, you're basically retiring at thirty seven thirty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the question of asked is are we leaving

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the feeling I get out there.

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Speaker 2: When you're in your twenties, you don't have the same

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hear about the house. I just wanted

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Speaker 4: But looking back now, if I'd bought a house when

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Speaker 3: Woo, Yeah, you'd be hit be home and hoes. Now, James,

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Speaker 3: you bought your house in your early twenties, Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 10: I bought my first home with my partner at the

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Speaker 4: Where was that house, James Nelson?

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Speaker 10: And one of them more lower decile areas than Nelson.

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Speaker 10: But have you still got eighty square meter place?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: And you how long did you hold onto that before

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Speaker 10: We held onto it and looked at moving on several times.

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Speaker 10: But the market just didn't work. The first time we

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Speaker 3: Wow, what part of Nelson James Stokes? Right, Yeah, gotcha,

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Speaker 2: And so I mean, you know that's a while ago.

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Speaker 10: Well, because I jumped in so early, and me and

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Speaker 10: So now we live in a very luxurious house and

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Speaker 10: we travel over the cities twice a year. And because

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Speaker 10: we have stuck together and worked on it. Like we

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Speaker 4: And you have since you still both workman a Wayne jobs.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, my wife she's worked up in her role and

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a really interesting point that you make, James.

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Speaker 4: Going, well, I'm not sure is this the person I'm

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Speaker 2: And so you that's kind of a superpower, isn't it, James,

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Speaker 10: Well, it's a beneficial thing, you know. I have I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, we don't want to you know

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Speaker 2: But the thing is that traditional choosing someone young and

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Speaker 4: There was a reason for it, wasn't there. You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's lots of problems with it as well,

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Speaker 3: Well, listening to you speak, James, and I wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: I just didn't think I had the wealth behind me

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Speaker 3: We were together a long time, and the thing about

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Speaker 3: point I said, yeah, it's a good idea. It's combine our.

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Speaker 4: Forces, you renegade.

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Speaker 2: You were just running around lapping it up. Now, James,

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Speaker 10: Well, I opted out a Kiwi Savor, but my wife

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Speaker 10: we're able to just save up. You know, we've been

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Speaker 4: Well, and as a decision that you often think, God,

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Speaker 4: thank god I did that.

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Speaker 10: Yes, So, especially with the market how it is, I

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Speaker 10: I have become like the house we purchased. I think

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Speaker 10: we purchased it for about two hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 10: It was a two bedroom home, and that house is

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Speaker 10: probably worth about six hundred thousand now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you don't mind me asking, James, you're

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Speaker 2: still in love, You're going to be together forever.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's the plan.

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Speaker 3: I think, Like answer made it great.

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Speaker 10: Your money your money goes well, It's just like my

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Speaker 10: glad to be in a relationship still and I'm glad

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Speaker 10: that I have that security. But I think younger generations

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Speaker 2: Too many options, so in their wild oats, leading to

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for you call James.

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Speaker 3: There's James.

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Speaker 4: What's a beautiful story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting he said that because I yeah, and

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Speaker 3: of course I'm going to say this, but I I

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Speaker 3: going to stay together. But you never know. Some things

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Speaker 3: could happen and maybe it didn't work out. But I

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Speaker 3: never thought, oh man, that could be a disaster down

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Speaker 3: that did happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're thirty four, won't you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he had been around the sun a few times

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Speaker 3: Mate, Yeah, exactly. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call. Are we leaving it too

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Speaker 3: late to get into property? If you've got into property

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Speaker 3: you to just spend your early twenties, just living it up,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is it as James said? Is it time?

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Speaker 12: Not?

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Speaker 4: This is what James said.

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Speaker 2: But you know, are we just looking for too much

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Speaker 2: in life when we really need to just settle down earlier,

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Speaker 2: stop selling your wild oats and get a house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty four past one.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking

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Speaker 9: Ministry of Transport Aviation Flight Times and Productivity report James

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Speaker 9: meag Is, the Associate Ministry of transportant is with us?

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Speaker 9: Are these numbers acceptable or not?

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Speaker 6: I want to look at making sure those trends over

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Speaker 6: time are going downwards and that airlines are focusing on

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Speaker 6: you look at twenty percent cancelation rates for Kai.

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Speaker 9: James, can I be honest? I mean fitty younger, honestly,

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Speaker 9: fitty younger drive. I mean, for goodness sake, what do

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Speaker 4: Sadly?

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Speaker 9: Do you honestly expect to hop on a seven three

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Speaker 9: Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veda News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. It is twenty seven past one and

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Speaker 3: we're talking about getting into your first time at what

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Speaker 3: age did you do that? First time buyers are getting older,

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Speaker 3: a lot older in Auckland everage age is thirty seven,

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Speaker 3: not much difference in Wellington and or are christ Church?

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Speaker 3: I think was it Wellington was thirty five? Christ Church

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Speaker 3: about thirty four?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, thirty seven, Orkland thirty six, Wellington thirty

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Speaker 2: five in christ Church? So is it as James said, Well,

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Speaker 2: James wasn't really saying it, but I'm jumping on board

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Speaker 2: this and adding stuff and that he didn't say the

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Speaker 2: last caller that people just have itchy feet and they're

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Speaker 2: looking for better options and they're not willing to put down,

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Speaker 2: you know, lay roots because they you know, they're on Tinder,

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Speaker 2: they're looking around for action. They're not just backing someone.

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Speaker 3: Better, something better is going to come along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, better town, better country, better person, you know, and

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Speaker 2: as a result, they end up with nothing till they're

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Speaker 4: Snow, welcome to the show. You've been in real estate

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Speaker 13: Yes, yeh, I have doesn't seem like it goes, but

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Speaker 13: that flies by, as you know. And yeah, I have

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Speaker 13: obviously markets rise and fall. But one thing i'd say,

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Speaker 13: you know that New Zealand we lost when I was

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Speaker 13: a young fellow. You know, I used to have bank,

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Speaker 14: You know we've lost Oh well.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, sorry, hold on, sorry, yep, now just pick up.

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Speaker 3: We just lost it for a sect.

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Speaker 4: Look, we've got full disclosure.

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Speaker 2: We're in a different studio today and I was playing

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Speaker 14: We all hit the wrong button and again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was snow, so you know, so we'll just

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Speaker 3: take you back about ten seconds.

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Speaker 14: I forgive you.

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Speaker 13: I'm always hitting the wrong buttons. But what I was

443
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Speaker 13: saying about, you know, to get into your first home,

444
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Speaker 13: it is achievable today. It always has been. It's always

445
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Speaker 13: themed difficult. But one thing that we've lost in New

446
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Speaker 13: Zealand is that the ability to learn to save money.

447
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Speaker 13: You know, I reckon everybody should save ten percent of

448
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Speaker 13: their income, you know, and they'd be better off, you know,

449
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Speaker 13: if they put it into it, not just their KEI

450
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Speaker 13: we save it, Key we Save. Has been a great

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Speaker 13: thing for New Zealand because every every week I'm dealing

452
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Speaker 13: with young people who are reaching to their kiwisaver and

453
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Speaker 13: they're getting into their first homes. And it's great to see.

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Speaker 13: And I don't think you'd have any regrets about buying

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Speaker 13: a property at a young age.

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Speaker 3: It's a good thing even and easy for me to

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Speaker 3: say snow because I was a loose unit in my

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Speaker 3: twenties and spending money on silly things, as you're probably

459
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Speaker 3: should in your twenties. But even having ten percent of

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Speaker 3: your income going to kiwisaver when you're younger is a

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Speaker 3: lot easier to do then, right.

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Speaker 13: Definitely, And the other option and one like slight criticism

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Speaker 13: of the younger generation. As you're selling the house, the

464
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Speaker 13: first home and the next thing they want to put,

465
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Speaker 13: you go around to give them a bottle of wine.

466
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Speaker 13: A week later and they're ripping up the flooring or

467
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Speaker 13: putting a new kitchen or something. I mean, just keep

468
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Speaker 13: your feet on the ground and just and' surely what

469
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Speaker 13: you've got the fact that it's your first home, just

470
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Speaker 13: to pay some of the mortgage before you do some

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Speaker 13: of that stuff. And a lot of people nowadays to

472
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Speaker 13: going in together, you know, flatmates will be buying homes together.

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Speaker 13: I really encourage people to do it because you know,

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Speaker 13: at the end of your days, you know, look, I've

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Speaker 13: got lots of well people, I know, you know, less

476
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Speaker 13: fortunate than than some of us are, and they don't

477
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Speaker 13: have their own home, and they're at the mercy of

478
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Speaker 13: a land bord and and that's not plesent.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, thank you for you cool snow appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: This texta kind of push us back a little bit

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Speaker 2: on what's being said. I sailed around the world on

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Speaker 2: a floating university in my early twenties. Well, my now

483
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Speaker 2: husband sailed from New Zealand to the UK. We both

484
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Speaker 2: ended up working for Kentucky Good Times, leading tours in

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Speaker 2: several different countries. So by the time we got back

486
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Speaker 2: to New Zealand we didn't buy until our thirties. I

487
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Speaker 2: wouldn't trade those traveling years for a million dollars. The

488
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Speaker 2: experiences with far more value Now our young adult kids

489
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Speaker 2: are doing exactly same, spending their savings traveling the world,

490
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Speaker 2: and we couldn't encourage them more. After all, life was

491
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Speaker 2: all about the memory building. Thanks guys, Lizzie, Yeah, thanks

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Speaker 2: you for that text here. That is the other side

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Speaker 2: of isn't it? Because you know, roots and buying a

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Speaker 2: house and settling down and that's all good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but traveling the world in Kentucky and having some

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Speaker 3: good times in your twenties.

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Speaker 4: Boy, people have some good times on the Kentucky tours

498
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Speaker 4: and hung free and sing. Yeah. Simon Della was the

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Speaker 4: one news reader.

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Speaker 15: Was he?

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Speaker 4: Here was a Konicky tour bus driver? I believe was he?

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Speaker 4: I think it might have been on the mic. Yeah, Yeah, didn't.

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Speaker 3: Do well at that. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call love to hear your story.

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Speaker 3: Did you do what Lizzie did and you went traveling

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Speaker 3: and had a great time in your twenties and early

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Speaker 3: thirties and then when you came back to New Zealand

508
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Speaker 3: bought your first home maybe in your forties.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because I said before something that has a lot of

511
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Speaker 2: text messages coming through and proving wrong, I said, no one, thanks,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't buy a house in my twenties,

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Speaker 2: Like there you go, Lizzie does yep?

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Speaker 3: I love to hear from you. It is twenty eight

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Speaker 3: to two headlines with Raylen coming up.

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Speaker 16: Youth Talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

517
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Speaker 16: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Prime Minister is

518
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Speaker 16: applauding a crackdown on truancy, saying we have compulsory education

519
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Speaker 16: for a reason. Chris Luckson says it's unacceptable that children

520
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Speaker 16: are being set up with a poor education that will

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Speaker 16: not help them access well paying jobs. To push for

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Speaker 16: a proper evaluation of charter schools from the Labour Party,

523
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Speaker 16: The Charter School Agency is push back reports another twelve

524
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Speaker 16: months to May next year, but Labour says charter schools

525
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Speaker 16: cost five times more than public schools, so the public

526
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Speaker 16: need to know how they're performing. Former head of the

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Speaker 16: UN Development Program Helen Clark as calling on world leaders,

528
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Speaker 16: including Donald Trump, to pressure Israel into allowing aid to

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Speaker 16: flow freely into Gaza. A christ Chi surgeon who tried

530
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Speaker 16: to kill his landlord will be banned from Canterbury when

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Speaker 16: he's freed from prison, and Dallison will be paroled to

532
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Speaker 16: Mulborough next month. Up to seventy jobs could be on

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Speaker 16: the line at Napier's Eastern Institute of Technology in a

534
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Speaker 16: proposed restructure following issues with the Tepulkinger merger. Crimson founder

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Speaker 16: Jamie Beaton's message for students caught in Trump's war on

536
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Speaker 16: Harvard you can read more at enzid Herald Premium. Back

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Speaker 16: to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. Are we leaving by in

539
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Speaker 3: our first home too late? The average age of the

540
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Speaker 3: first home Byron Auckland has gone up to thirty seven.

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Speaker 3: That is a lot older than has been in the

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Speaker 3: previous generations. Typically it's been in the early twenties or

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Speaker 3: mid twenties that you get into property. No longer.

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Speaker 2: Now this is slightly off topic, but this has been

545
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Speaker 2: springing to mind as we're talking about this subject, and

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Speaker 2: we talked to James earlier who said, you know, he

547
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Speaker 2: settled down with his partner at twenty one and got

548
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Speaker 2: on with his life. And it reminds me of that

549
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Speaker 2: movie you might have seen it called Idiocracy. Yeah, cram

550
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Speaker 2: out in two thou and six, a might jug judge

551
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Speaker 2: movie starring Luke Wilson, and this is the opening, and

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Speaker 2: it's about people prolonging what they're doing in their life.

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Speaker 17: As the twenty first century began, natural selection, the process

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Speaker 17: by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest reproduced in

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Speaker 17: greater numbers than the rest, A process which had once

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Speaker 17: favored the noblest traits of man now began to favor

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Speaker 17: different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a

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Speaker 17: future that was more civilized and more intelligent, but as

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Speaker 17: time went on, things seemed to be heading in the

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Speaker 17: opposite direction. A dumbing down evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence.

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Speaker 17: With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began

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Speaker 17: to simply reward those who reproduced the most and left

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Speaker 17: the intelligent to become an endangered species.

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Speaker 12: Having kids is such an important decision.

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Speaker 18: We're just waiting for the right time.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 12: Kids.

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Speaker 18: There's no way we could have a child now, not

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Speaker 18: with the market the way it is now.

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Speaker 12: That just wouldn't make any sense.

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Speaker 18: Thought it was on the pills, no, Brightney, Well, we

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Speaker 18: finally decided to have children. And I'm not pointing fingers,

573
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Speaker 18: but it's not going well.

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Speaker 4: It's always me right.

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Speaker 18: Unfortunately, Trevor passed away, but I have some ex frozen

576
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Speaker 18: so just as soon as the right guy comes along,

577
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Speaker 18: so it will for generations.

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Speaker 17: Although I few, if any seemed to lead us.

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Speaker 3: The more yeah, the more I think about that movie,

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Speaker 3: the more things are starting to contact. Couple of pass,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, It's not exactly the topic we're talking about. We're

583
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Speaker 2: talking about first home buyers and the age has blown out.

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Speaker 2: Average age in New Zealand and Auckland is thirty seven,

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Speaker 2: Wellington thirty six, and Christytch thirty five.

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Speaker 4: So there is.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five percent of the property purchases nationwide are for

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Speaker 2: first time buyers.

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Speaker 4: They're just much older than they used to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, love to hear from you. Oh one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call op.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, we're in a different studio today. Just pressing the

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Speaker 2: button there. Yeah for Jonas, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 19: Well, thanks for having me. I think the big part

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Speaker 19: of the problem is that young people nowadays they kind

596
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Speaker 19: of want to live for the flesh, you know. I

597
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Speaker 19: don't want to do things here and now without thinking

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Speaker 19: so much about the future.

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Speaker 20: I'll be lucky.

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Speaker 19: I met my husband when I was twenty three twenty

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Speaker 19: fourth and we bought our first time and we're almost

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Speaker 19: mortgage free and I'm thirty five now. But I would

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Speaker 19: also say that I think there's anability, you know, to

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Speaker 19: sacrifice when you're young. That's not to say that you

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Speaker 19: can't give up some things in your rewarded later on

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Speaker 19: in life. But yeah, I worry that maybe it's just

607
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Speaker 19: not the same work per six as well, the ability

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Speaker 19: is to work hard and save part is it your

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Speaker 19: first time?

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Speaker 2: Did you feel when you bought your house in your

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Speaker 2: early twenties that you were missing out on delivering a

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Speaker 2: glamorous life, the holidays and the partying that other people

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Speaker 2: that you knew were doing.

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Speaker 19: I think I've done that part of my life, but

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Speaker 19: it wasn't fulfilling. I now know that in my kind

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Speaker 19: of mid thirties and now that we've come to faith,

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Speaker 19: I realized that that stuffers very short lived and doesn't

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Speaker 19: fulfill you in the long term. If really doesn't fulfill

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Speaker 19: your spiritship that have that time for sure. We actually

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Speaker 19: worked on supiots, so I was a nurse on board

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Speaker 19: and my husband was a builder. That's how we managed

622
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Speaker 19: to save so much money. We saved about one hundred

623
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Speaker 19: and forty thousand dollars to buy our best homeless and

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Speaker 19: then we paid that off. We were mortgage free for

625
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Speaker 19: a couple of years before we bought a bagger home

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Speaker 19: and now we have three children together.

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Speaker 2: So I'm working on supiots though. That's I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: that's the best of both worlds, isn't it. Sometimes, So

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Speaker 2: you're traveling and seeing the world, but also making some

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Speaker 2: money and making some decisions that too.

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Speaker 19: So I didn't feel like we were missing out because

632
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Speaker 19: we did get to travel the med Bahamas, abw Dubai

633
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Speaker 19: word for a couple of shapes and Dubai. So it

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Speaker 19: was definitely an amazing experience and I hope that we

635
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Speaker 19: would travel again. When I said three, a bit older,

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Speaker 19: but yeah, I think because we started young, we now

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Speaker 19: have our thirties and forties looked forward to another stage

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Speaker 19: in life. But I think young people tend to be

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Speaker 19: a little bit more self indulgent. They don't think about

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Speaker 19: I think that they've got all the time in the

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Speaker 19: world to do those things later in life without thinkings

642
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Speaker 19: that actually by the time they come to the tectives.

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Speaker 19: For women, yeah, that is going to be an issue.

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Speaker 19: You're probably the eighties.

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Speaker 3: But women, yea, and there's a few out there to

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Speaker 3: do that. But do you think there's also part of it,

647
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Speaker 3: Fiona that first home buyers in today's market they want

648
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Speaker 3: their first home to be far more lavish than was

649
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Speaker 3: considered in the past. You know, they want the three bedroom,

650
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Speaker 3: they want a bit of land, they want all those things,

651
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Speaker 3: and they're kind of looking at it as their forever home,

652
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Speaker 3: whereas that's not what your first home should be about.

653
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Speaker 3: It should be a doer upper or maybe a box

654
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Speaker 3: apartment or whatever it is. It's your first step. Then

655
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Speaker 3: you get some capital, then you sell that, then you

656
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Speaker 3: get a better home.

657
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Speaker 19: Yeah, I'd say social media has got a big cut.

658
00:29:54,733 --> 00:29:57,253
Speaker 19: I'm really social media, like I'm talking to you on

659
00:29:57,293 --> 00:29:59,093
Speaker 19: my dumb phone. Now I've got rid of it myself,

660
00:29:59,253 --> 00:30:03,333
Speaker 19: don't no longer have a smartphone. But what people, potentially

661
00:30:03,373 --> 00:30:06,413
Speaker 19: what young people see online are they're not realizing that

662
00:30:06,453 --> 00:30:10,133
Speaker 19: it's not reality, which is probably have a lot to.

663
00:30:10,093 --> 00:30:15,653
Speaker 2: Blame for comparison is the thief of joy, as they say.

664
00:30:14,453 --> 00:30:16,813
Speaker 19: There's nothing wrong with starting out small. We lived in

665
00:30:16,853 --> 00:30:19,493
Speaker 19: eighty square meters as well, and we had two children

666
00:30:19,573 --> 00:30:22,173
Speaker 19: under the age of two, and it was really hard.

667
00:30:22,213 --> 00:30:25,093
Speaker 19: But when you we've sacrificed in those early years, we

668
00:30:25,133 --> 00:30:26,893
Speaker 19: would see the benefit later on in life.

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00:30:26,973 --> 00:30:27,213
Speaker 21: Both.

670
00:30:27,573 --> 00:30:31,173
Speaker 19: The other aspect of it is that people, you know,

671
00:30:31,213 --> 00:30:33,373
Speaker 19: are making an assumption. But I feel like younger people

672
00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:36,333
Speaker 19: aren't willing to endure the same kind of comforts that

673
00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:39,013
Speaker 19: we were at that stage in our life.

674
00:30:39,133 --> 00:30:41,093
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you're thirty five. Now you can party

675
00:30:41,093 --> 00:30:42,413
Speaker 2: pretty hard at thirty five.

676
00:30:42,493 --> 00:30:43,133
Speaker 4: If you want to.

677
00:30:44,653 --> 00:30:45,693
Speaker 19: Don't party anymore.

678
00:30:45,773 --> 00:30:48,333
Speaker 4: I don't, but if you, But what I'm saying is

679
00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:50,333
Speaker 4: if you wanted to, like, the option is still open

680
00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:51,733
Speaker 4: to you, you know what I mean. Just the ship

681
00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:52,373
Speaker 4: hasn't sailed on.

682
00:30:52,413 --> 00:30:53,853
Speaker 2: That kind of life if you wanted to live it

683
00:30:53,973 --> 00:30:55,813
Speaker 2: just because you bought a house in your twenties.

684
00:30:56,773 --> 00:30:58,773
Speaker 19: Yeah, we're more about spending now. They have to spend

685
00:30:58,853 --> 00:31:02,413
Speaker 19: quality time effactors and go away for hunting and came

686
00:31:02,493 --> 00:31:03,333
Speaker 19: from adventures and.

687
00:31:03,293 --> 00:31:03,893
Speaker 4: Things like that.

688
00:31:03,893 --> 00:31:06,293
Speaker 19: That's where our priorities lie. But yeah, the idea is

689
00:31:06,333 --> 00:31:09,133
Speaker 19: that if you push that aside, maybe the interim in

690
00:31:09,173 --> 00:31:11,813
Speaker 19: those early years, you get way more out of it.

691
00:31:11,893 --> 00:31:13,133
Speaker 19: I would say later in life.

692
00:31:13,373 --> 00:31:15,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on your Fiona, and thanks for ringing. So

693
00:31:16,013 --> 00:31:18,093
Speaker 2: over seventy five percent of the first time buyers. You're

694
00:31:18,093 --> 00:31:20,653
Speaker 2: talking about box apartments and small stuff. So over seventy

695
00:31:20,653 --> 00:31:24,133
Speaker 2: five percent of first home buyers are perching standalone houses. Wow,

696
00:31:24,253 --> 00:31:27,173
Speaker 2: that's the highest since twenty twenty. So twenty five percent

697
00:31:27,213 --> 00:31:29,813
Speaker 2: of probably purchases are from her first home buyers and

698
00:31:29,813 --> 00:31:32,933
Speaker 2: seventy five percent of those are standalone houses.

699
00:31:32,973 --> 00:31:35,893
Speaker 3: Time Lavish, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

700
00:31:35,973 --> 00:31:38,133
Speaker 3: number to call coming up. We're going to have a

701
00:31:38,213 --> 00:31:41,693
Speaker 3: chat to someone who managed to get into a house

702
00:31:41,813 --> 00:31:44,973
Speaker 3: very early by day trading during the GFC. It's going

703
00:31:45,013 --> 00:31:45,613
Speaker 3: to be interesting.

704
00:31:45,653 --> 00:31:47,813
Speaker 2: And about four hundred thousand other people that are text

705
00:31:47,853 --> 00:31:49,973
Speaker 2: and saying no, rip it up in your twenties. This

706
00:31:50,013 --> 00:31:52,013
Speaker 2: is very, very boring way to live your life.

707
00:31:52,093 --> 00:31:53,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go, it's fear point.

708
00:31:53,533 --> 00:31:54,133
Speaker 4: Yeah right.

709
00:31:54,213 --> 00:31:56,853
Speaker 3: It is sixteen to two.

710
00:31:58,853 --> 00:32:02,093
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

711
00:32:02,173 --> 00:32:04,573
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tylor

712
00:32:04,613 --> 00:32:06,533
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons news talks.

713
00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:08,933
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about

714
00:32:08,933 --> 00:32:12,093
Speaker 3: getting into your first time later in life. It seems

715
00:32:12,133 --> 00:32:14,613
Speaker 3: to be a growing trend. The average age has gone

716
00:32:14,653 --> 00:32:19,253
Speaker 3: up in Auckland thirty seven and Wellington it's just over

717
00:32:19,373 --> 00:32:21,013
Speaker 3: mid thirty thirty six, I believe.

718
00:32:21,373 --> 00:32:22,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're thirty seven in Auckland.

719
00:32:22,933 --> 00:32:25,533
Speaker 2: There, Tiler, you're thirty six and Wellington and thirty five

720
00:32:25,613 --> 00:32:29,773
Speaker 2: in christ Church. So narrow bound but later. So first

721
00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:32,293
Speaker 2: time buyers more than ever, well more than in recent

722
00:32:32,373 --> 00:32:34,973
Speaker 2: years twenty five percent of property purchase. But they're older.

723
00:32:36,133 --> 00:32:38,573
Speaker 2: So is that a bad thing? Should more people be

724
00:32:38,613 --> 00:32:39,893
Speaker 2: trying to buy a property when they're younger?

725
00:32:40,013 --> 00:32:42,453
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

726
00:32:42,453 --> 00:32:44,173
Speaker 3: And if you were someone that bought your first time

727
00:32:44,213 --> 00:32:46,093
Speaker 3: a little bit later in life, but you lived it

728
00:32:46,173 --> 00:32:48,573
Speaker 3: up in your twenties thirties, travel the world and don't

729
00:32:48,613 --> 00:32:50,133
Speaker 3: regret a thing. Really can hear from you?

730
00:32:50,293 --> 00:32:52,093
Speaker 2: Hi, Matt and Tyler. I became a first home buyer

731
00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:53,973
Speaker 2: at forty eight. Don't regret a day.

732
00:32:54,333 --> 00:32:54,693
Speaker 4: There you go?

733
00:32:55,573 --> 00:32:57,333
Speaker 2: Did I wonder what they were doing up for forty eight?

734
00:32:57,613 --> 00:33:00,573
Speaker 2: I need sounds like a lot of good stuff. Sounds

735
00:33:00,573 --> 00:33:01,533
Speaker 2: like a real party animal.

736
00:33:01,613 --> 00:33:02,173
Speaker 3: I need more.

737
00:33:02,373 --> 00:33:04,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, send us through more text on nineteen nine two

738
00:33:05,053 --> 00:33:06,173
Speaker 2: or give us call on O on eight hundred and

739
00:33:06,213 --> 00:33:08,413
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty.

740
00:33:08,493 --> 00:33:08,973
Speaker 4: Welcome to the.

741
00:33:08,893 --> 00:33:13,453
Speaker 22: Show Hi, Matt Tyler. I was quite fortunate. I ended

742
00:33:13,533 --> 00:33:16,053
Speaker 22: up buying my first house when I was twenty years old,

743
00:33:16,933 --> 00:33:20,693
Speaker 22: back just after the GFC in two thousand and nine.

744
00:33:21,693 --> 00:33:24,573
Speaker 22: It was quite an interesting way I did it. I

745
00:33:24,693 --> 00:33:28,173
Speaker 22: sort of. I was training pretty young for my parents

746
00:33:28,213 --> 00:33:30,293
Speaker 22: to get into the property game, and so I was

747
00:33:30,973 --> 00:33:33,093
Speaker 22: working as a water polo referee when I was eleven

748
00:33:33,133 --> 00:33:35,813
Speaker 22: twelve years old and fair his job at Dominoes and

749
00:33:35,853 --> 00:33:39,253
Speaker 22: I was fifteen and then working part time all through

750
00:33:39,253 --> 00:33:42,213
Speaker 22: a university to save up a deposit. But I was

751
00:33:42,213 --> 00:33:44,573
Speaker 22: also giving the student loan, which I think a lot

752
00:33:44,573 --> 00:33:47,813
Speaker 22: of people don't really take advantage of it. They sort of,

753
00:33:47,853 --> 00:33:49,733
Speaker 22: you know, ever get an every week or fortnite and

754
00:33:49,773 --> 00:33:51,333
Speaker 22: then go out on the town and spend it all

755
00:33:51,373 --> 00:33:53,933
Speaker 22: on booze. So you know, if you put that money

756
00:33:53,933 --> 00:33:57,253
Speaker 22: aside and put it into shares or you know, traded

757
00:33:57,253 --> 00:34:00,293
Speaker 22: a bit of currency with it, then you can turn

758
00:34:00,293 --> 00:34:03,373
Speaker 22: an interest free loan into a saving three deposits.

759
00:34:03,533 --> 00:34:06,893
Speaker 4: Sneaky, sneaky because as the best terms you're going to

760
00:34:06,933 --> 00:34:07,573
Speaker 4: get on a loan.

761
00:34:07,453 --> 00:34:10,933
Speaker 22: Aren't they They sure are as long as you're not

762
00:34:11,213 --> 00:34:14,573
Speaker 22: leaving the country after you've finished your degree and so

763
00:34:14,733 --> 00:34:18,173
Speaker 22: I knuckled down. And the other thing I did was

764
00:34:18,693 --> 00:34:20,853
Speaker 22: I didn't buy my dream home to start with. I

765
00:34:22,013 --> 00:34:24,853
Speaker 22: bought it under a company. And so back in the

766
00:34:24,933 --> 00:34:27,213
Speaker 22: day you could buy under a company called l a QC,

767
00:34:27,973 --> 00:34:30,692
Speaker 22: which allowed you to deduct a lot of the expenses

768
00:34:30,773 --> 00:34:35,813
Speaker 22: and repairs and maintenance on the property there. And so

769
00:34:35,933 --> 00:34:38,613
Speaker 22: I actually rented my first house for about five or

770
00:34:38,653 --> 00:34:40,732
Speaker 22: six years and so.

771
00:34:41,453 --> 00:34:45,172
Speaker 3: So you didn't live in it initially at all, Headley.

772
00:34:45,573 --> 00:34:47,733
Speaker 22: No, no, no, So you don't need to, you know,

773
00:34:48,013 --> 00:34:49,453
Speaker 22: I mean, now you do it with a lot of

774
00:34:49,453 --> 00:34:53,173
Speaker 22: the banking terms. But back in those days, you know,

775
00:34:53,253 --> 00:34:56,732
Speaker 22: saved up enough for a twenty percent deposit and brought

776
00:34:56,773 --> 00:35:00,093
Speaker 22: in wades down at Wellington, and then I rented it

777
00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:03,652
Speaker 22: out to the Brazilian embassy for a couple of years there. Well,

778
00:35:03,933 --> 00:35:06,453
Speaker 22: they would have paid well, they Yeah, they paid really

779
00:35:06,453 --> 00:35:09,373
Speaker 22: well and never heading the shoose for them as a genant.

780
00:35:09,493 --> 00:35:11,013
Speaker 2: So you're a bit of a you're a bit of

781
00:35:11,013 --> 00:35:14,093
Speaker 2: a hustler, Hadley. You've got that mindset of of of

782
00:35:14,533 --> 00:35:17,573
Speaker 2: working things out in your interests, you know, thinking things through.

783
00:35:18,853 --> 00:35:20,213
Speaker 22: Yeah, well you've got to, you know, you got to.

784
00:35:20,333 --> 00:35:22,813
Speaker 22: You can't think about tomorrow or a year from now.

785
00:35:22,853 --> 00:35:26,773
Speaker 22: You gotta think generationally, you know, ten years down the

786
00:35:26,813 --> 00:35:28,573
Speaker 22: pass and I think, you know, what are you going

787
00:35:28,613 --> 00:35:31,013
Speaker 22: to do when you want to have children? And what

788
00:35:31,053 --> 00:35:32,573
Speaker 22: are you going to leave for them when you go?

789
00:35:33,213 --> 00:35:36,453
Speaker 22: And so you got to do the hard work earlyer.

790
00:35:36,533 --> 00:35:38,573
Speaker 4: Did you feel like you were missing out on things?

791
00:35:38,613 --> 00:35:40,413
Speaker 2: You know, you say that some people are getting the

792
00:35:40,413 --> 00:35:42,053
Speaker 2: student loan and they're running out of bed on the

793
00:35:42,053 --> 00:35:44,053
Speaker 2: town and spending it on on the booze.

794
00:35:44,093 --> 00:35:45,373
Speaker 4: I mean that's fun, isn't it.

795
00:35:45,453 --> 00:35:47,773
Speaker 2: So when people are doing that and you weren't, You

796
00:35:47,293 --> 00:35:49,093
Speaker 2: were you're investing in property.

797
00:35:49,133 --> 00:35:50,253
Speaker 4: Did you feel like you're missing out?

798
00:35:50,293 --> 00:35:53,293
Speaker 22: I never never said I wasn't.

799
00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:55,853
Speaker 3: Oh yes, still loose airs.

800
00:35:55,373 --> 00:35:57,933
Speaker 22: But the key is you got to work hard. You know,

801
00:35:58,173 --> 00:36:01,613
Speaker 22: work hard, play hard. You know a lot of younger

802
00:36:01,653 --> 00:36:04,212
Speaker 22: generation now days, they don't. They don't have they're worth

803
00:36:04,533 --> 00:36:06,613
Speaker 22: ethic that some of us.

804
00:36:06,653 --> 00:36:08,093
Speaker 2: As I say to my as I say to my

805
00:36:08,373 --> 00:36:10,053
Speaker 2: uns Headley, if you go out with the boys, you've

806
00:36:10,053 --> 00:36:10,973
Speaker 2: got to get up with the men.

807
00:36:11,133 --> 00:36:12,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good saying.

808
00:36:13,133 --> 00:36:16,053
Speaker 22: I had a friend Jim Osborne. He was the top

809
00:36:16,093 --> 00:36:18,252
Speaker 22: car salesman in New Zealand from the sody for many,

810
00:36:18,293 --> 00:36:21,973
Speaker 22: many years, and he would have a few beers and

811
00:36:22,253 --> 00:36:24,253
Speaker 22: whiskeys are the boys, But he'd be in the office

812
00:36:24,253 --> 00:36:27,013
Speaker 22: at seven am on the phone calling out his clients

813
00:36:27,053 --> 00:36:30,733
Speaker 22: to do the next steal. So you know about that

814
00:36:31,213 --> 00:36:32,613
Speaker 22: short time to make it a good time?

815
00:36:32,693 --> 00:36:35,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean refereeing at the at the age

816
00:36:35,453 --> 00:36:37,493
Speaker 3: of eleven. That's pretty good. I was. I think I

817
00:36:37,533 --> 00:36:39,253
Speaker 3: was throwing rocks at trees at the age of eleven.

818
00:36:39,373 --> 00:36:41,252
Speaker 3: Wasn't thinking about earning any coins? So well done?

819
00:36:42,453 --> 00:36:43,933
Speaker 22: Yeah, no, it was a good time.

820
00:36:44,133 --> 00:36:45,693
Speaker 3: Was that fulla?

821
00:36:46,933 --> 00:36:48,693
Speaker 4: Was that flipperball? Was that water polo?

822
00:36:49,853 --> 00:36:53,172
Speaker 22: A bit of slopperball? In water polo? And nine o' paul?

823
00:36:53,813 --> 00:36:56,373
Speaker 3: Did you get a lip from? Did you get a

824
00:36:56,373 --> 00:36:57,853
Speaker 3: bit of lip from? Some of the teams from time

825
00:36:57,893 --> 00:36:59,293
Speaker 3: to time would have to correct down.

826
00:36:59,373 --> 00:37:01,373
Speaker 22: Yeah, but you could. You could kick them out into

827
00:37:01,373 --> 00:37:03,573
Speaker 22: the corner and then take a little twenty second time

828
00:37:03,613 --> 00:37:05,013
Speaker 22: out muck around with Headley.

829
00:37:05,173 --> 00:37:06,812
Speaker 4: I've spent a lot of time by the Paul watching

830
00:37:06,853 --> 00:37:08,853
Speaker 4: my kids playing water polo. I tell you he thank you.

831
00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:12,813
Speaker 2: So much for your call, Hadley. I appreciate that. Hey, guys,

832
00:37:12,893 --> 00:37:15,613
Speaker 2: interesting topic. We married it twenty five years and saved

833
00:37:15,653 --> 00:37:17,853
Speaker 2: up to go to London. Many friends said you should

834
00:37:17,853 --> 00:37:18,813
Speaker 2: buy a house before you go.

835
00:37:18,893 --> 00:37:19,253
Speaker 4: We didn't.

836
00:37:19,373 --> 00:37:21,373
Speaker 2: Ended up being in London for ten years, came home

837
00:37:21,413 --> 00:37:24,253
Speaker 2: with two children in twenty twelve, brought a two bed

838
00:37:24,333 --> 00:37:26,732
Speaker 2: brick and tile and fin it a eight years ago

839
00:37:27,013 --> 00:37:28,933
Speaker 2: and rent the big house in Auckland. At the moment

840
00:37:28,973 --> 00:37:31,172
Speaker 2: while the kids are in high school, looking to move

841
00:37:31,293 --> 00:37:33,252
Speaker 2: north and buy land in the future. When the kids

842
00:37:33,253 --> 00:37:35,693
Speaker 2: are sussed. We're teaching them to invest their money and

843
00:37:35,733 --> 00:37:37,733
Speaker 2: save key. We save us so they will buy before

844
00:37:37,813 --> 00:37:40,373
Speaker 2: they travel in London. We should have been more risky

845
00:37:40,613 --> 00:37:42,613
Speaker 2: and borrowed one hundred and ten percent those loans. Ye,

846
00:37:42,653 --> 00:37:44,693
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent loans back in two thousand

847
00:37:44,693 --> 00:37:46,293
Speaker 2: and four. A lot of mates that did that when

848
00:37:46,293 --> 00:37:48,692
Speaker 2: the banks were giving money away. We're a close knit

849
00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:50,973
Speaker 2: family with kids who talk to us. We've traveled the

850
00:37:50,973 --> 00:37:53,893
Speaker 2: world with them, had an amazing family trip and twenty

851
00:37:53,973 --> 00:37:55,293
Speaker 2: eighteen hindsight is.

852
00:37:55,213 --> 00:37:56,013
Speaker 4: A wonderful thing.

853
00:37:56,053 --> 00:37:56,212
Speaker 10: Though.

854
00:37:56,293 --> 00:37:57,013
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for.

855
00:37:57,013 --> 00:37:59,493
Speaker 3: Your text, Emma, love it. We're going to pick this

856
00:37:59,573 --> 00:38:01,493
Speaker 3: back up very shortly. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

857
00:38:01,573 --> 00:38:03,692
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It's eight to two.

858
00:38:06,813 --> 00:38:10,413
Speaker 1: Matties Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

859
00:38:10,453 --> 00:38:14,733
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

860
00:38:14,653 --> 00:38:17,813
Speaker 3: V News Talks HEV. We're going to carry this on

861
00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:21,732
Speaker 3: after three o'clock because there is not a phone line free.

862
00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:24,212
Speaker 3: But keep trying if you are trying to get through

863
00:38:24,373 --> 00:38:25,933
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. And we are, of

864
00:38:25,973 --> 00:38:28,213
Speaker 3: course talking about buying a first time later in life.

865
00:38:28,373 --> 00:38:30,893
Speaker 2: I'm fifty one this year, we have one adult child

866
00:38:30,973 --> 00:38:33,093
Speaker 2: and two teens. Bought our first house last year and

867
00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:35,613
Speaker 2: we are mortgage free. Wow, okay, well they must have

868
00:38:35,653 --> 00:38:39,252
Speaker 2: heard hell that well done. Fifty seven and never owned

869
00:38:39,253 --> 00:38:42,093
Speaker 2: a house, lived in my workshops when self employed, had

870
00:38:42,173 --> 00:38:45,093
Speaker 2: been mining for years now on a New Zealand rural

871
00:38:45,133 --> 00:38:49,853
Speaker 2: farm station as a mechanic general shepherd. Cheap rent, saving heaps,

872
00:38:50,133 --> 00:38:52,573
Speaker 2: won't be Buying house is just a slave collar that

873
00:38:52,693 --> 00:38:55,613
Speaker 2: ties you to bills and drama. And look I was

874
00:38:55,653 --> 00:38:58,453
Speaker 2: saying you can still party in your late thirties. Mark says,

875
00:38:58,493 --> 00:39:01,373
Speaker 2: I'm still parting in my sixties and partying hard.

876
00:39:01,813 --> 00:39:04,692
Speaker 3: And Phil says, boys, I can't get through. But I

877
00:39:05,133 --> 00:39:06,933
Speaker 3: brought a house when I was thirty eight, and I

878
00:39:06,973 --> 00:39:09,573
Speaker 3: would say go do the traveling while you're young. Now

879
00:39:09,653 --> 00:39:12,573
Speaker 3: I wish I did that. I eight one hundred eighty

880
00:39:12,573 --> 00:39:14,732
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call as we say,

881
00:39:14,773 --> 00:39:17,373
Speaker 3: we're going to carry this on after the two o'clock news,

882
00:39:17,413 --> 00:39:20,293
Speaker 3: which is on its way. Very good to have your

883
00:39:20,333 --> 00:39:23,533
Speaker 3: company as always. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very

884
00:39:23,613 --> 00:39:26,333
Speaker 3: very good. Afternoon to you extually. I've got time for

885
00:39:26,373 --> 00:39:27,893
Speaker 3: I've just spotted this text that I want to get

886
00:39:27,893 --> 00:39:30,333
Speaker 3: in before the news hits us. My first time didn't

887
00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:31,973
Speaker 3: get any sun for two months of the year, but

888
00:39:32,013 --> 00:39:35,573
Speaker 3: I got on the ladder and have owned over thirty houses,

889
00:39:35,613 --> 00:39:39,093
Speaker 3: holding some of those for rentals. That is from grant.

890
00:39:39,133 --> 00:39:41,013
Speaker 3: There you go, and that goes back into not paying

891
00:39:41,053 --> 00:39:42,493
Speaker 3: your dream home for your first home.

892
00:39:42,773 --> 00:39:43,053
Speaker 4: Yeah.

893
00:39:43,093 --> 00:39:46,253
Speaker 2: And after the news we'll talk to Purple partied in

894
00:39:46,293 --> 00:39:47,813
Speaker 2: her twenties and bought in her thirties.

895
00:39:47,893 --> 00:39:50,053
Speaker 3: Yeah. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

896
00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:52,733
Speaker 3: number to call if you can't get through, keep trying.

897
00:39:53,093 --> 00:39:56,693
Speaker 3: It is three minutes to too New Sport and weather

898
00:39:56,773 --> 00:39:59,573
Speaker 3: on its way. Very good to get your company as always.

899
00:39:59,573 --> 00:40:02,773
Speaker 3: You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very good. Afternoon to you.

900
00:40:04,693 --> 00:40:10,893
Speaker 1: Drunk talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor

901
00:40:10,893 --> 00:40:13,172
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Dogs.

902
00:40:13,213 --> 00:40:17,133
Speaker 3: It'd be welcome back into the show seven past two

903
00:40:17,173 --> 00:40:20,173
Speaker 3: and having a great discussion about first time buyers. Activity

904
00:40:20,213 --> 00:40:23,093
Speaker 3: peaked at twenty five percent first time buyers into the

905
00:40:23,093 --> 00:40:26,253
Speaker 3: market earlier this year, so that is above long term average,

906
00:40:26,413 --> 00:40:28,692
Speaker 3: that's according to a new report. But those buying were

907
00:40:28,733 --> 00:40:31,053
Speaker 3: now much older. Yeah, that's right, Tyler.

908
00:40:31,093 --> 00:40:33,773
Speaker 2: The average age has increased to thirty seven, and Auckland

909
00:40:33,813 --> 00:40:36,373
Speaker 2: thirty six, and Wellington and thirty five and christ Church

910
00:40:36,453 --> 00:40:38,652
Speaker 2: and over seventy five percent of those first time buyers

911
00:40:38,693 --> 00:40:43,013
Speaker 2: are purchasing standalone houses, the highest since twenty twenty. So

912
00:40:43,253 --> 00:40:46,413
Speaker 2: people are buying houses thirty seven. You're deep into your

913
00:40:46,453 --> 00:40:48,493
Speaker 2: life buying your house at thirty seven. I mean you,

914
00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:51,013
Speaker 2: how old are you? I'm thirty nine, right, so just

915
00:40:51,053 --> 00:40:51,773
Speaker 2: two years ago for you.

916
00:40:51,813 --> 00:40:53,093
Speaker 4: But you bought your first house in your thirty four?

917
00:40:53,133 --> 00:40:54,813
Speaker 3: Did you thirty four? So I was yep, I was late.

918
00:40:54,853 --> 00:40:56,773
Speaker 3: But my partner mate she was twenty seven, so that

919
00:40:57,133 --> 00:40:59,853
Speaker 3: was seen as a bit more of an appropriate age

920
00:40:59,853 --> 00:41:00,333
Speaker 3: to buy a home.

921
00:41:00,413 --> 00:41:00,573
Speaker 6: Yeah.

922
00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:02,173
Speaker 3: I had great time on my.

923
00:41:02,173 --> 00:41:06,533
Speaker 2: Twelve are we passing around larking it up and not

924
00:41:06,653 --> 00:41:09,493
Speaker 2: settling down and getting responsible and setting up our financial

925
00:41:09,533 --> 00:41:12,373
Speaker 2: future if we're waiting till we're thirty seven on average

926
00:41:12,373 --> 00:41:14,973
Speaker 2: to buy at first time, or is it better to

927
00:41:15,013 --> 00:41:17,573
Speaker 2: go loosen your twenties and party hard and work it

928
00:41:17,573 --> 00:41:18,013
Speaker 2: out later?

929
00:41:18,093 --> 00:41:20,053
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or both if you've mentioned to do it both.

930
00:41:21,333 --> 00:41:23,973
Speaker 4: Purp, Welcome to the show. You partied in your twenties.

931
00:41:24,413 --> 00:41:27,693
Speaker 23: Yeah, hi, Matte Hi Tyler. Absolutely, I went to London

932
00:41:27,733 --> 00:41:29,453
Speaker 23: straight after Yearnie or it's.

933
00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:31,773
Speaker 8: Really hard, partied really hard, coming.

934
00:41:31,533 --> 00:41:33,493
Speaker 23: Back at thirty and bought my first home then, and

935
00:41:33,653 --> 00:41:35,613
Speaker 23: I do not regret that for one second.

936
00:41:36,453 --> 00:41:38,293
Speaker 2: How did you have the money? How did you have

937
00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:40,333
Speaker 2: the money after you partied all through your twenties, crip?

938
00:41:40,693 --> 00:41:42,893
Speaker 23: I was working hard in London at the same time

939
00:41:43,053 --> 00:41:44,813
Speaker 23: and earning good dish. You know you can go over

940
00:41:44,813 --> 00:41:47,213
Speaker 23: there and as well. I'm trifted now, but back in

941
00:41:47,253 --> 00:41:49,453
Speaker 23: those dayses go over and in some really good money.

942
00:41:50,173 --> 00:41:52,013
Speaker 23: So I brought my first time when I came back,

943
00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:54,253
Speaker 23: and was mortgage free by forty five, and now my

944
00:41:54,333 --> 00:41:56,333
Speaker 23: husband and I are back traveling with more money now.

945
00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:58,853
Speaker 23: So wow, you know you can you can still do it?

946
00:41:59,213 --> 00:42:02,493
Speaker 4: Are you how hard are you partying now that you're fifty.

947
00:42:03,573 --> 00:42:06,212
Speaker 23: Not partying so much, just traveling, just traveling, you want

948
00:42:06,213 --> 00:42:09,653
Speaker 23: to call that partying? Yeah, yeah, I can before parting

949
00:42:09,653 --> 00:42:10,253
Speaker 23: for eight pm.

950
00:42:10,373 --> 00:42:13,373
Speaker 4: That's nice, nice dinner, has a few wines. But you're

951
00:42:13,413 --> 00:42:15,693
Speaker 4: not you're not at the clubs still. You know, at

952
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:16,333
Speaker 4: the club still you.

953
00:42:16,413 --> 00:42:16,773
Speaker 11: Kick it out.

954
00:42:16,933 --> 00:42:18,413
Speaker 20: You can afford nice wines.

955
00:42:18,613 --> 00:42:21,093
Speaker 4: You paid yours, Yeah, brilliant.

956
00:42:21,093 --> 00:42:23,413
Speaker 2: So but but that's kind of I guess if you

957
00:42:23,453 --> 00:42:25,212
Speaker 2: can party and work out, that's the thing you can

958
00:42:25,293 --> 00:42:26,053
Speaker 2: do in your twenties.

959
00:42:26,053 --> 00:42:28,172
Speaker 4: Though you have you have the energy to work hard

960
00:42:28,253 --> 00:42:28,813
Speaker 4: and party.

961
00:42:28,933 --> 00:42:29,973
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh my gosh.

962
00:42:30,093 --> 00:42:32,293
Speaker 23: Yes, I was a consultant and we were out till

963
00:42:32,293 --> 00:42:34,133
Speaker 23: three or four in the morning and going back to

964
00:42:34,133 --> 00:42:36,853
Speaker 23: work at eight am. But you could do that and

965
00:42:36,893 --> 00:42:37,772
Speaker 23: it was great fun.

966
00:42:38,013 --> 00:42:40,573
Speaker 2: Do you think, though, that you could have been more productive?

967
00:42:40,613 --> 00:42:43,373
Speaker 2: And everything's turned out great and obviously you're in a

968
00:42:43,373 --> 00:42:45,292
Speaker 2: great position now, but you you think if you weren't

969
00:42:45,293 --> 00:42:47,813
Speaker 2: partying in your twenties, you could have achieved more in

970
00:42:47,893 --> 00:42:48,653
Speaker 2: your your career.

971
00:42:49,533 --> 00:42:50,213
Speaker 24: Yeah, I could have.

972
00:42:50,333 --> 00:42:52,652
Speaker 23: But saying that, I had friends that got married in

973
00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:54,172
Speaker 23: their twenties and by the thirties.

974
00:42:53,853 --> 00:43:00,733
Speaker 25: A divorce so I think at the party, meet somebody

975
00:43:00,733 --> 00:43:03,093
Speaker 25: a bit later, don't get divorce because that costs money,

976
00:43:03,453 --> 00:43:04,733
Speaker 25: and then you're well set up.

977
00:43:04,933 --> 00:43:07,093
Speaker 4: Yeah. Ill, thank you so much for your call.

978
00:43:07,173 --> 00:43:07,413
Speaker 12: Pep.

979
00:43:07,493 --> 00:43:09,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that that really messes up your

980
00:43:09,653 --> 00:43:12,692
Speaker 2: plans if your plan is to settle down early, go

981
00:43:12,733 --> 00:43:15,133
Speaker 2: into a property with a partner and do all the

982
00:43:15,173 --> 00:43:20,813
Speaker 2: right things. Yeah, you're married at twenty one, then you

983
00:43:20,853 --> 00:43:23,333
Speaker 2: hate each other at thirty, and then it all blows

984
00:43:23,413 --> 00:43:26,093
Speaker 2: up and then you end up as poor as if

985
00:43:26,133 --> 00:43:29,693
Speaker 2: you've done absolutely nothing sensible, And that's life. My daughter

986
00:43:29,733 --> 00:43:34,213
Speaker 2: and partner are both eighteen. Hang on a minute, I

987
00:43:34,253 --> 00:43:38,133
Speaker 2: read that wrong. So my daughter and her partner are

988
00:43:38,133 --> 00:43:40,573
Speaker 2: both eighteen, because that'd be quite achievement. If your daughter

989
00:43:40,613 --> 00:43:43,213
Speaker 2: and your partner are eighteen, they are in the throes

990
00:43:43,213 --> 00:43:45,213
Speaker 2: of buying their first home in Lower Heart, three beds

991
00:43:45,213 --> 00:43:45,773
Speaker 2: stand alone.

992
00:43:45,853 --> 00:43:47,893
Speaker 4: He drives a V eight. They're pretty social. It can

993
00:43:47,933 --> 00:43:49,133
Speaker 4: be done. It's from Mark. Thanks for you.

994
00:43:49,173 --> 00:43:51,413
Speaker 3: Text yeah, oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty

995
00:43:51,453 --> 00:43:53,453
Speaker 3: is the number to call love to get your thoughts

996
00:43:54,293 --> 00:43:55,813
Speaker 3: and if you want to teach through, you're more than welcome.

997
00:43:55,853 --> 00:43:57,893
Speaker 3: Nine to ninety two is the text number. It is

998
00:43:57,933 --> 00:43:58,613
Speaker 3: ten pus two.

999
00:43:59,293 --> 00:43:59,732
Speaker 4: In the movie.

1000
00:43:59,853 --> 00:44:01,373
Speaker 2: A lot of people are texting through and asking what

1001
00:44:01,373 --> 00:44:02,693
Speaker 2: the movie we were talking about before.

1002
00:44:03,253 --> 00:44:08,493
Speaker 4: It's Idiocracy from two thousand and six. Fantastic. Wow. You

1003
00:44:08,493 --> 00:44:09,133
Speaker 4: know it's a.

1004
00:44:09,053 --> 00:44:11,453
Speaker 2: Bit of a hairy movie, but it's got a bit

1005
00:44:11,453 --> 00:44:14,373
Speaker 2: of a corny but I mean, yeah.

1006
00:44:14,253 --> 00:44:16,533
Speaker 4: It's got's problems, but it's thoroughly worth watching.

1007
00:44:16,653 --> 00:44:21,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a limp bus two.

1008
00:44:21,613 --> 00:44:25,813
Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon Talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons

1009
00:44:26,013 --> 00:44:28,813
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

1010
00:44:28,653 --> 00:44:29,093
Speaker 12: Said, be.

1011
00:44:31,093 --> 00:44:33,533
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So buying your first time

1012
00:44:33,613 --> 00:44:36,652
Speaker 3: later in life and partying it up in your twenties there,

1013
00:44:36,733 --> 00:44:39,093
Speaker 3: maybe even your thirties, good idea if you've done it. Oh,

1014
00:44:39,093 --> 00:44:40,253
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1015
00:44:40,813 --> 00:44:43,293
Speaker 2: Yes, So you have to remember that buying a house

1016
00:44:43,373 --> 00:44:46,333
Speaker 2: is much different these days, so buying a first house

1017
00:44:46,413 --> 00:44:48,933
Speaker 2: later isn't often a choice. Minimum house deposits are much

1018
00:44:48,973 --> 00:44:52,533
Speaker 2: higher as our house prices, so people have to save

1019
00:44:52,613 --> 00:44:53,493
Speaker 2: much longer a deposit.

1020
00:44:53,533 --> 00:44:54,893
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely all.

1021
00:44:55,053 --> 00:44:57,493
Speaker 2: But you know, look, twenty five percent of property purchases

1022
00:44:57,573 --> 00:45:01,453
Speaker 2: nationwide between January and April this year were from first

1023
00:45:01,453 --> 00:45:03,453
Speaker 2: time buyers, so that's a court of the market is

1024
00:45:03,533 --> 00:45:06,333
Speaker 2: first time buyers. And yeah, the average age of thirty

1025
00:45:06,333 --> 00:45:08,333
Speaker 2: seven and seventy five percent of those first time buyers,

1026
00:45:09,053 --> 00:45:11,493
Speaker 2: we're buying standalone houses, so they're not buying those little

1027
00:45:11,533 --> 00:45:14,893
Speaker 2: box apartments nov buying a full bloody house with a

1028
00:45:15,173 --> 00:45:22,133
Speaker 2: lawn lush. Yeah, incredible, Debbie, thanks for calling your thoughts.

1029
00:45:23,533 --> 00:45:26,053
Speaker 8: I was very late when I first bought my house.

1030
00:45:26,093 --> 00:45:31,973
Speaker 8: I was fifty. I didn't necessarily party after my younger days.

1031
00:45:33,173 --> 00:45:37,573
Speaker 8: I did have one overseas prope, but I wasn't earning

1032
00:45:38,533 --> 00:45:40,693
Speaker 8: that much money. You know, I was only in jobs

1033
00:45:40,733 --> 00:45:47,293
Speaker 8: that was on minimum wage, right, So you know I

1034
00:45:47,333 --> 00:45:48,253
Speaker 8: bought my house with.

1035
00:45:50,293 --> 00:45:53,013
Speaker 12: My mum's inheritance, Okay.

1036
00:45:54,613 --> 00:45:57,733
Speaker 8: Yeah, and my Kiwi saver. I initially went into the

1037
00:45:57,773 --> 00:46:02,493
Speaker 8: bank to check out with my kiwisaver and it was

1038
00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:06,053
Speaker 8: suggested that maybe I might want to put a more

1039
00:46:06,053 --> 00:46:09,652
Speaker 8: good application through and I thought, all I'd never be

1040
00:46:09,693 --> 00:46:13,293
Speaker 8: able to get a mortgage, and forty minutes later it

1041
00:46:13,333 --> 00:46:14,652
Speaker 8: was aprow.

1042
00:46:14,933 --> 00:46:16,933
Speaker 26: So you just never know.

1043
00:46:17,533 --> 00:46:19,773
Speaker 2: So is it something you know, you know, leading up

1044
00:46:19,813 --> 00:46:22,013
Speaker 2: to fifty, was it something that you were thinking about

1045
00:46:22,013 --> 00:46:23,813
Speaker 2: a lot that you wished you could buy a house

1046
00:46:24,053 --> 00:46:26,253
Speaker 2: of something you felt that was that was missing in

1047
00:46:26,293 --> 00:46:26,692
Speaker 2: your life.

1048
00:46:27,213 --> 00:46:31,212
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, absolutely, yeah, because I was a solo mother

1049
00:46:32,093 --> 00:46:38,413
Speaker 8: for sixteen years, so yeah, I had limited money then,

1050
00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:43,133
Speaker 8: so I had the opportunity to buy a house much

1051
00:46:43,213 --> 00:46:44,133
Speaker 8: later in life.

1052
00:46:45,453 --> 00:46:45,933
Speaker 22: So yeah.

1053
00:46:45,973 --> 00:46:49,453
Speaker 8: So I've had my house for six years now, I've

1054
00:46:49,573 --> 00:46:52,812
Speaker 8: not nineteen years off my mortgage during that time.

1055
00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:53,973
Speaker 4: Good work going hard.

1056
00:46:55,093 --> 00:46:56,172
Speaker 3: Whereabouts is your house?

1057
00:46:56,213 --> 00:46:56,413
Speaker 6: TV?

1058
00:46:56,533 --> 00:46:59,013
Speaker 3: And what sort of house is it?

1059
00:46:59,013 --> 00:46:59,172
Speaker 6: At?

1060
00:46:59,293 --> 00:47:01,773
Speaker 8: A three bedroom house on an eight hundred and fifty

1061
00:47:01,813 --> 00:47:05,093
Speaker 8: square meter section or not in the south by kid? I?

1062
00:47:05,293 --> 00:47:09,413
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, beautiful spot. It's almost a lifestyle block a

1063
00:47:09,533 --> 00:47:10,373
Speaker 3: year almost.

1064
00:47:13,453 --> 00:47:13,533
Speaker 21: So.

1065
00:47:14,093 --> 00:47:14,413
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1066
00:47:14,453 --> 00:47:16,652
Speaker 8: So when I when I first got my mortgage, it

1067
00:47:16,693 --> 00:47:20,853
Speaker 8: was only two point eight percent, yeah, right, then it

1068
00:47:21,093 --> 00:47:23,732
Speaker 8: went up to seven.

1069
00:47:23,413 --> 00:47:25,213
Speaker 3: Point two feel your pain.

1070
00:47:26,133 --> 00:47:29,213
Speaker 8: Which was yeah, which was quite hard by myself.

1071
00:47:31,053 --> 00:47:34,013
Speaker 2: How different did it feel, Debbie when you as being

1072
00:47:34,053 --> 00:47:37,692
Speaker 2: a house owner compared to be being a renter?

1073
00:47:38,093 --> 00:47:39,013
Speaker 4: How did it feel for you?

1074
00:47:40,013 --> 00:47:40,172
Speaker 6: Oh?

1075
00:47:40,213 --> 00:47:44,133
Speaker 8: My god, It's it's life changing, it really is. Yeah.

1076
00:47:44,173 --> 00:47:46,533
Speaker 8: I never ever thought that I'd be able to buy

1077
00:47:46,613 --> 00:47:53,773
Speaker 8: my own home, and yeah, it's just absolutely absolutely life changing.

1078
00:47:54,173 --> 00:47:57,173
Speaker 2: And you know, you know, have you made any changes?

1079
00:47:57,213 --> 00:47:58,652
Speaker 2: Because I mean that's that's one of the great things.

1080
00:47:58,693 --> 00:48:00,173
Speaker 2: When you first own your home, you're like, you know,

1081
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:02,493
Speaker 2: I could I could throw up put a sleechammer through

1082
00:48:02,493 --> 00:48:04,413
Speaker 2: this wall if I wanted to, because this place is mine.

1083
00:48:04,453 --> 00:48:07,373
Speaker 2: Whereas when you're renting, you even have to consider if

1084
00:48:07,413 --> 00:48:08,893
Speaker 2: you're going to put a thumbtack in the water hot

1085
00:48:08,893 --> 00:48:09,413
Speaker 2: put a poster.

1086
00:48:10,373 --> 00:48:13,613
Speaker 8: Yeah that's right. Yeah. Now I've got tons of tons

1087
00:48:13,693 --> 00:48:17,093
Speaker 8: of pictures on the walls, and you know, I've just

1088
00:48:17,133 --> 00:48:19,013
Speaker 8: started painting and stuff like that.

1089
00:48:19,173 --> 00:48:21,533
Speaker 4: So yeah, well, thank you so much for your call, Debbie,

1090
00:48:21,573 --> 00:48:22,253
Speaker 4: and good on you.

1091
00:48:22,373 --> 00:48:24,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a cool story. Oh one hundred and eighty

1092
00:48:24,533 --> 00:48:26,293
Speaker 3: teen eighty is the number to call. Love to hear

1093
00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:30,293
Speaker 3: your thoughts on this one. Michael, you got your first

1094
00:48:30,293 --> 00:48:32,013
Speaker 3: time in your mid thirties, is that right?

1095
00:48:32,693 --> 00:48:32,893
Speaker 27: Yeah?

1096
00:48:32,933 --> 00:48:35,453
Speaker 6: I think I was thirty seven or thirty six somewhere

1097
00:48:35,493 --> 00:48:35,893
Speaker 6: around there.

1098
00:48:35,933 --> 00:48:37,453
Speaker 2: Well, they look at that, you're You're right where the

1099
00:48:37,493 --> 00:48:39,973
Speaker 2: average buyer is now thirty seven and Aukland thirty six,

1100
00:48:40,013 --> 00:48:41,213
Speaker 2: and Wellington thirty five and Christytch.

1101
00:48:41,213 --> 00:48:42,933
Speaker 4: Where did you buy your first home, Michael.

1102
00:48:43,213 --> 00:48:45,093
Speaker 6: I actually moved to the need And to buy my

1103
00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:51,173
Speaker 6: first time. We were living in Auckland and my wife

1104
00:48:51,693 --> 00:48:55,652
Speaker 6: I recently married my wife got pregnant with twins and

1105
00:48:55,693 --> 00:48:57,133
Speaker 6: realized that we were going to be on one income

1106
00:48:57,173 --> 00:49:00,333
Speaker 6: for a while, and living in Auckland on one ocome's

1107
00:49:00,333 --> 00:49:05,653
Speaker 6: pretty tough. So we looked at I was a teacher.

1108
00:49:06,213 --> 00:49:08,533
Speaker 6: I could find a job pretty much anywhere in the

1109
00:49:08,533 --> 00:49:11,253
Speaker 6: country that was going to pay pretty much the same.

1110
00:49:11,893 --> 00:49:13,933
Speaker 6: So we had a look and moved to the Needen,

1111
00:49:14,573 --> 00:49:18,493
Speaker 6: bought a house and our mortgage her fortnite was half

1112
00:49:18,573 --> 00:49:23,013
Speaker 6: when our rent per week was it awkward, So like

1113
00:49:23,053 --> 00:49:25,453
Speaker 6: it made sense. But also, you know, part of the

1114
00:49:25,493 --> 00:49:27,692
Speaker 6: thing is that I noticed I didn't even think about

1115
00:49:27,733 --> 00:49:30,053
Speaker 6: buying your house when I was single. And I had

1116
00:49:30,093 --> 00:49:34,213
Speaker 6: a look at some of the stats, something like sixty

1117
00:49:34,253 --> 00:49:38,413
Speaker 6: percent of first home buyers are married. Yeah, and that's

1118
00:49:38,493 --> 00:49:42,853
Speaker 6: been fairly consistent through years. And what's happened as the

1119
00:49:42,853 --> 00:49:48,013
Speaker 6: marriage ages got older, so as people have, like in

1120
00:49:48,133 --> 00:49:51,573
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy five, the average age for marriage was twenty

1121
00:49:51,613 --> 00:49:53,893
Speaker 6: two and now it's thirty four.

1122
00:49:54,133 --> 00:49:56,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what James was saying. So James

1123
00:49:56,173 --> 00:49:58,772
Speaker 2: met the woman of his dreams this is last hour

1124
00:49:59,293 --> 00:50:00,973
Speaker 2: a while ago when he was twenty one, and so

1125
00:50:01,053 --> 00:50:04,613
Speaker 2: he locked things in. So until you do that, then you, yeah,

1126
00:50:04,733 --> 00:50:07,652
Speaker 2: you're not really know you maybe not ready to grow

1127
00:50:07,693 --> 00:50:08,333
Speaker 2: some roots yet.

1128
00:50:09,293 --> 00:50:11,373
Speaker 6: Well you sort of. It didn't make sense to have

1129
00:50:11,413 --> 00:50:13,573
Speaker 6: something that was permanent. I wanted to be a little

1130
00:50:13,573 --> 00:50:17,493
Speaker 6: bit less settled, whereas once I was married and looking

1131
00:50:17,533 --> 00:50:20,613
Speaker 6: at kids, then being settled made a whole lot of

1132
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:23,413
Speaker 6: sense all of a sudden, you know. And so before that,

1133
00:50:23,533 --> 00:50:26,013
Speaker 6: I travel I went around the world. I was a

1134
00:50:26,013 --> 00:50:29,213
Speaker 6: cricket writer for a while and traveled around to different

1135
00:50:29,373 --> 00:50:32,693
Speaker 6: stadiums around the world watching watching cricket and writing stories

1136
00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:36,652
Speaker 6: about it. Pay very well, but that was it was.

1137
00:50:37,013 --> 00:50:39,853
Speaker 6: It was. It was a pretty good experience doing that,

1138
00:50:39,933 --> 00:50:43,732
Speaker 6: and I did all sorts of thing, you know, So yeah,

1139
00:50:44,253 --> 00:50:47,253
Speaker 6: it was. It was great fun doing some of that stuff,

1140
00:50:48,133 --> 00:50:51,213
Speaker 6: but it was it was never a thought really to

1141
00:50:51,653 --> 00:50:54,732
Speaker 6: And also, if you're single, you've got to save that

1142
00:50:55,493 --> 00:50:58,613
Speaker 6: deposit by yourself. So like a lower quartel house in

1143
00:50:58,653 --> 00:51:02,053
Speaker 6: Auckland is about seven hundred and fifty thousand, seven hundred

1144
00:51:02,053 --> 00:51:04,813
Speaker 6: and sixty thousand a moment, that's your that's your basic

1145
00:51:04,853 --> 00:51:07,533
Speaker 6: price for a new a first time buyer. The lower

1146
00:51:07,573 --> 00:51:12,813
Speaker 6: quarte house's more useful than the median and that rate

1147
00:51:12,853 --> 00:51:16,933
Speaker 6: at the moment on the median income, the median graduate income,

1148
00:51:16,973 --> 00:51:20,133
Speaker 6: which is that's about and take about nineteen years if

1149
00:51:20,133 --> 00:51:22,732
Speaker 6: you save ten percent of your income. Yeah, yeah, exactly, say,

1150
00:51:22,733 --> 00:51:24,093
Speaker 6: but to save a twenty percent deposit.

1151
00:51:24,373 --> 00:51:27,413
Speaker 3: Are you Are you still in Duneda now, Michael.

1152
00:51:27,853 --> 00:51:30,133
Speaker 6: No, No, we actually sold up and moved back up

1153
00:51:30,133 --> 00:51:34,653
Speaker 6: to Auckland and we're renting again now. But we sold

1154
00:51:34,653 --> 00:51:37,373
Speaker 6: in Dunedin and we're planning on trying to buy here.

1155
00:51:37,573 --> 00:51:41,613
Speaker 6: But we we started a house that was slated for

1156
00:51:41,693 --> 00:51:45,933
Speaker 6: demolition and we rented that knowing that we're only going

1157
00:51:45,933 --> 00:51:47,213
Speaker 6: to have a little while, but thought that was all

1158
00:51:47,253 --> 00:51:50,573
Speaker 6: right when we started our house in Dameda and we

1159
00:51:50,693 --> 00:51:56,733
Speaker 6: live in this place and basically the owner, instead of

1160
00:51:56,773 --> 00:51:58,933
Speaker 6: demolishing and developing it, sold it to someone else who

1161
00:51:58,973 --> 00:52:00,613
Speaker 6: wanted to land bank it and said to us, if

1162
00:52:00,653 --> 00:52:03,733
Speaker 6: you just pay the rates and the rates and insurance,

1163
00:52:03,773 --> 00:52:06,733
Speaker 6: you can stay living there. And so we're living in

1164
00:52:06,773 --> 00:52:11,533
Speaker 6: a four bed trip house on paradid.

1165
00:52:10,293 --> 00:52:11,493
Speaker 22: Next to nothing for it.

1166
00:52:11,573 --> 00:52:13,733
Speaker 6: So I'm not keen on buying at the moment because

1167
00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:15,893
Speaker 6: no way I could afford anything close to this.

1168
00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:21,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, before you go, because I'm a Dunedin born and bred.

1169
00:52:21,733 --> 00:52:23,373
Speaker 2: What school were you teaching out down there.

1170
00:52:24,613 --> 00:52:27,333
Speaker 6: I taught at Bayfield when I was down there class,

1171
00:52:27,413 --> 00:52:30,773
Speaker 6: but you know that's I'm not teaching anyone. That was

1172
00:52:30,773 --> 00:52:36,732
Speaker 6: a few years back. But yeah, it was interesting. One

1173
00:52:36,733 --> 00:52:39,333
Speaker 6: thing I found it was fascinating was that a lot

1174
00:52:39,373 --> 00:52:41,933
Speaker 6: of the issues that we had in South Aukland teaching

1175
00:52:41,933 --> 00:52:45,333
Speaker 6: in South Auckland, a lot of them happened exactly the

1176
00:52:45,333 --> 00:52:48,133
Speaker 6: same in South Dnedon, except the faces were white rather

1177
00:52:48,173 --> 00:52:51,173
Speaker 6: than brown. It was often to do with where people

1178
00:52:51,213 --> 00:52:54,693
Speaker 6: sat in the social hierarchy rather than maybe what we

1179
00:52:55,133 --> 00:52:57,853
Speaker 6: thought was ethnicity when we were up at Auckland, but

1180
00:52:57,973 --> 00:53:00,053
Speaker 6: actually it was you know, you had a lot of

1181
00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:02,853
Speaker 6: similar issues, but it was just different, different colored pies

1182
00:53:03,253 --> 00:53:03,933
Speaker 6: causing the problems.

1183
00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:05,212
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people that do it tough

1184
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:08,293
Speaker 2: in South du Need. In my alma mater, Logan Park

1185
00:53:08,373 --> 00:53:10,613
Speaker 2: called Bogan Park High School as we call it in

1186
00:53:10,653 --> 00:53:14,693
Speaker 2: the news. I thought there's some kind of misappropriation of

1187
00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:17,533
Speaker 2: cash of three hundred and thirty thousand at Logan Parks off,

1188
00:53:17,613 --> 00:53:20,293
Speaker 2: but that's a different issue. Okay, Michael, We'll let you

1189
00:53:20,333 --> 00:53:21,893
Speaker 2: get back to the dishes or whatever you're doing there.

1190
00:53:21,933 --> 00:53:22,732
Speaker 2: Appreciate your call.

1191
00:53:23,053 --> 00:53:25,333
Speaker 3: Sounded like it was ending in the dishwasher or something.

1192
00:53:25,373 --> 00:53:26,133
Speaker 3: But multitasking.

1193
00:53:26,133 --> 00:53:27,893
Speaker 4: Maybe he was, maybe he was starting the demolition of

1194
00:53:27,893 --> 00:53:28,573
Speaker 4: his house and stuff.

1195
00:53:29,133 --> 00:53:31,573
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1196
00:53:31,813 --> 00:53:34,653
Speaker 3: Got to play some messages. But when we come back.

1197
00:53:34,973 --> 00:53:38,692
Speaker 3: A very interesting text of just spotted here. I'll read

1198
00:53:38,733 --> 00:53:40,172
Speaker 3: a little out.

1199
00:53:40,533 --> 00:53:43,893
Speaker 2: Someone is very angry at us, very very interesting that

1200
00:53:43,973 --> 00:53:45,772
Speaker 2: anyone should be partying at all.

1201
00:53:45,893 --> 00:53:47,413
Speaker 3: This is going to be good. I'll read some of

1202
00:53:47,453 --> 00:53:49,212
Speaker 3: that out. I can't read it all out, or maybe

1203
00:53:49,213 --> 00:53:50,973
Speaker 3: I can. It's twenty three pasts.

1204
00:53:50,653 --> 00:53:51,652
Speaker 4: To read it out.

1205
00:53:56,533 --> 00:53:59,893
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight hundred

1206
00:53:59,973 --> 00:54:01,933
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talks.

1207
00:54:01,813 --> 00:54:04,772
Speaker 3: V News Talks. Thereb it is twenty five past two

1208
00:54:04,853 --> 00:54:07,533
Speaker 3: and we're talking about our first time buyers getting older.

1209
00:54:07,573 --> 00:54:09,493
Speaker 3: The average age in Auckland for a first time buy

1210
00:54:09,533 --> 00:54:12,533
Speaker 3: an hour is thirty seven years old. But there are

1211
00:54:12,533 --> 00:54:14,093
Speaker 3: a lot of first time buyers in the market. It

1212
00:54:14,413 --> 00:54:16,893
Speaker 3: is wretchet. It up to twenty five percent of the

1213
00:54:17,053 --> 00:54:19,253
Speaker 3: market at the start of this year. That is a

1214
00:54:19,293 --> 00:54:21,813
Speaker 3: lot higher than it has been over the last three,

1215
00:54:21,893 --> 00:54:22,732
Speaker 3: four or five years.

1216
00:54:22,933 --> 00:54:25,053
Speaker 2: And you said you had a text before the break

1217
00:54:25,093 --> 00:54:27,213
Speaker 2: Tyler that you were not sure whether you're going to

1218
00:54:27,253 --> 00:54:27,693
Speaker 2: read that or it.

1219
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:30,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've had two cens of some of the stuff,

1220
00:54:30,693 --> 00:54:33,373
Speaker 3: So here is the text in question. I'm so disappointed

1221
00:54:33,373 --> 00:54:35,893
Speaker 3: at you, two muppets. Why are you encouraging partying at

1222
00:54:35,893 --> 00:54:38,933
Speaker 3: any age? That is what's wrong with the generations of

1223
00:54:38,973 --> 00:54:41,093
Speaker 3: today is that they want to act like fools in

1224
00:54:41,133 --> 00:54:43,613
Speaker 3: their twenties when they should be starting a family and

1225
00:54:43,653 --> 00:54:46,853
Speaker 3: working to support our country and community. The fact that

1226
00:54:46,893 --> 00:54:49,173
Speaker 3: people are not buying their homes until their mid thirties,

1227
00:54:49,213 --> 00:54:51,693
Speaker 3: it's frankly a disgrace. And you guys should not be

1228
00:54:51,813 --> 00:54:56,133
Speaker 3: encouraging any sort of party party that you gay party

1229
00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:58,053
Speaker 3: consider yourself told Matt Heath.

1230
00:54:58,013 --> 00:55:01,853
Speaker 2: Party this Texas is not everybody gets the choice of travel,

1231
00:55:01,853 --> 00:55:04,453
Speaker 2: slash party or buy a home. Some people literally a

1232
00:55:04,493 --> 00:55:07,453
Speaker 2: matter of survival, just getting through life. Yeah, I mean,

1233
00:55:07,453 --> 00:55:11,133
Speaker 2: there's always people, there's always examples of things that are

1234
00:55:11,173 --> 00:55:13,453
Speaker 2: incredibly terrible, but that doesn't mean you can't talk about

1235
00:55:13,453 --> 00:55:18,773
Speaker 2: the usual experience of people, and generally most people do

1236
00:55:18,933 --> 00:55:21,252
Speaker 2: some partying in their twenties. Yeah, I mean I don't

1237
00:55:21,253 --> 00:55:23,533
Speaker 2: think it a lot. I think that's controversial. No, I

1238
00:55:23,573 --> 00:55:26,212
Speaker 2: mean some people can't. Some people's life is just a

1239
00:55:26,213 --> 00:55:30,772
Speaker 2: matter of survival. But generally speaking, most people can party.

1240
00:55:30,813 --> 00:55:32,213
Speaker 2: I mean, in my twenties, I had no money, but

1241
00:55:32,293 --> 00:55:35,533
Speaker 2: I was partying with riggers of a Tago draft and

1242
00:55:35,733 --> 00:55:36,293
Speaker 2: meaning's gin.

1243
00:55:36,573 --> 00:55:46,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very true strategy exactly exactly if you're into partying, You're.

1244
00:55:46,413 --> 00:55:49,373
Speaker 2: To Chris Porters first house at twenty three, five hours later,

1245
00:55:49,453 --> 00:55:52,453
Speaker 2: debt free and three million dollars worth of property.

1246
00:55:53,253 --> 00:55:54,692
Speaker 4: Hailey, welcome to the show.

1247
00:55:55,733 --> 00:55:57,093
Speaker 28: Hi, thank you for having me.

1248
00:55:57,893 --> 00:56:02,013
Speaker 4: Thank you for calling. Hey lot we said that simultaneously. Gin, Yeah, it.

1249
00:56:02,013 --> 00:56:02,453
Speaker 20: Sounded like it.

1250
00:56:06,373 --> 00:56:09,133
Speaker 28: I just wanted to call because I've purchased a house.

1251
00:56:09,253 --> 00:56:10,973
Speaker 28: I think I was twenty seven when I bought it.

1252
00:56:10,973 --> 00:56:16,172
Speaker 28: I'm thirty now, but I just think that expenses are

1253
00:56:16,213 --> 00:56:18,893
Speaker 28: really high now and it just makes it really hard

1254
00:56:18,933 --> 00:56:24,692
Speaker 28: to purchase, especially close to cities, and with a lot

1255
00:56:24,733 --> 00:56:27,173
Speaker 28: of companies now wanting their staff back on site or

1256
00:56:27,213 --> 00:56:30,013
Speaker 28: at least half of the time, that makes it difficult

1257
00:56:30,093 --> 00:56:34,893
Speaker 28: as well to purchase further away. For me, I've purchased

1258
00:56:34,933 --> 00:56:40,533
Speaker 28: about it was almost two hours away from Wellington, and

1259
00:56:40,573 --> 00:56:43,933
Speaker 28: then they brought back the fifty percent of time in

1260
00:56:43,973 --> 00:56:46,413
Speaker 28: the office, so that was a bit of a shop.

1261
00:56:46,213 --> 00:56:48,453
Speaker 4: Because from which way from Wellington?

1262
00:56:48,453 --> 00:56:48,733
Speaker 12: Were you?

1263
00:56:50,293 --> 00:56:52,933
Speaker 3: So I'm in living ye have a place?

1264
00:56:53,133 --> 00:56:56,252
Speaker 28: Yeah yeah, yeah, well it's a good place to buy. Yeah,

1265
00:56:57,733 --> 00:56:59,973
Speaker 28: but you know, and I also think it's not necessarily

1266
00:57:00,013 --> 00:57:03,693
Speaker 28: about sacrificing a lavish lifestyle, but that is part of it.

1267
00:57:03,733 --> 00:57:07,813
Speaker 28: I think the real issue is education then understanding how

1268
00:57:07,853 --> 00:57:11,373
Speaker 28: to stay and prioritize money. But that's something that I

1269
00:57:11,453 --> 00:57:13,853
Speaker 28: think needs to start from a very young age and

1270
00:57:14,213 --> 00:57:17,413
Speaker 28: having that appreciation for a dollar, you know, rather than

1271
00:57:17,573 --> 00:57:18,293
Speaker 28: just you.

1272
00:57:18,213 --> 00:57:19,333
Speaker 12: Know, buy.

1273
00:57:20,533 --> 00:57:22,893
Speaker 2: When my son, when my son, when he was fourteen,

1274
00:57:22,893 --> 00:57:24,813
Speaker 2: he got a job working at a cafe, and the

1275
00:57:24,933 --> 00:57:27,613
Speaker 2: change when he just described everything as how many hours

1276
00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:32,333
Speaker 2: it talked to yeah, you'd buy something like you'd buy

1277
00:57:32,453 --> 00:57:34,253
Speaker 2: you'd be at a cafe and get breakfast and go, wow,

1278
00:57:34,293 --> 00:57:35,573
Speaker 2: that's two hours work there.

1279
00:57:35,573 --> 00:57:37,933
Speaker 3: It's a great lesson to learn. Yeah. I just wonder

1280
00:57:37,973 --> 00:57:40,293
Speaker 3: if it is also Hailey listening to Debbie who called

1281
00:57:40,293 --> 00:57:42,293
Speaker 3: in a bit earlier when she went to go see

1282
00:57:42,333 --> 00:57:44,573
Speaker 3: the bank and she never thought she'd be able to

1283
00:57:44,573 --> 00:57:46,853
Speaker 3: get a mortgage and it was approved within forty minutes.

1284
00:57:46,853 --> 00:57:48,773
Speaker 3: You know, that's a part of it, is that, no doubt,

1285
00:57:48,813 --> 00:57:51,293
Speaker 3: it is harder to get into the property market. But

1286
00:57:51,453 --> 00:57:54,093
Speaker 3: constantly young people are told it's too hard, You're never

1287
00:57:54,093 --> 00:57:56,053
Speaker 3: going to be able to get into a house by yourself.

1288
00:57:56,093 --> 00:57:58,453
Speaker 3: You may as well stop trying. That's the wrong message.

1289
00:57:58,453 --> 00:58:00,893
Speaker 3: You may as well go and talk to mortgage advisors

1290
00:58:00,893 --> 00:58:03,613
Speaker 3: and people and figure that out. And I think a

1291
00:58:03,613 --> 00:58:04,293
Speaker 3: lot of people would.

1292
00:58:04,453 --> 00:58:07,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks so much for you call, Haley.

1293
00:58:07,293 --> 00:58:10,653
Speaker 2: Appreciate that, afternoon, team. Here's a stat that might surprise you.

1294
00:58:10,693 --> 00:58:13,533
Speaker 2: A person paying the average rent, which assuming this only

1295
00:58:13,573 --> 00:58:15,893
Speaker 2: ever increases at the rate of inflation, will pay about

1296
00:58:15,893 --> 00:58:19,133
Speaker 2: three million in rent over forty years. And contrary is

1297
00:58:19,173 --> 00:58:21,373
Speaker 2: a person who buys the average house with twenty percent

1298
00:58:21,453 --> 00:58:23,813
Speaker 2: down will pay about one point eight million in interest

1299
00:58:24,053 --> 00:58:27,053
Speaker 2: in house expenses and then have an asset worth about

1300
00:58:27,093 --> 00:58:30,333
Speaker 2: three million forty years later. I mean, that's that's Henry's math,

1301
00:58:30,533 --> 00:58:33,413
Speaker 2: and you know, that's that's the idea. That's what we've

1302
00:58:33,413 --> 00:58:38,373
Speaker 2: all got in our head. You know, high Fellers bought

1303
00:58:38,413 --> 00:58:41,013
Speaker 2: my home, one bedroom unit in Auckland in two thousand

1304
00:58:41,053 --> 00:58:43,533
Speaker 2: and eight for two hundred and sixty five now worth

1305
00:58:43,693 --> 00:58:46,773
Speaker 2: eight hundred and forty K. We'll never forget the day

1306
00:58:46,813 --> 00:58:49,133
Speaker 2: paying off my mortgage at ASP Bank I said, I'm

1307
00:58:49,213 --> 00:58:51,933
Speaker 2: here to pay off the five k to clear my mortgage.

1308
00:58:52,053 --> 00:58:54,253
Speaker 2: The TALLI said, okay, pushed a few buttons and said

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00:58:54,293 --> 00:59:01,893
Speaker 2: next outdoors with Scotty. Yeah, it's funny, but it's funny

1310
00:59:01,893 --> 00:59:04,373
Speaker 2: when people don't care about how much these big moments.

1311
00:59:04,693 --> 00:59:06,653
Speaker 2: I was involved in a situation where we put ten

1312
00:59:06,693 --> 00:59:10,133
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on black the casino in Las Vegas. So

1313
00:59:10,173 --> 00:59:12,213
Speaker 2: I put ten thousand dollars on black on the roulette

1314
00:59:12,213 --> 00:59:14,773
Speaker 2: table and it came up red, and.

1315
00:59:14,573 --> 00:59:17,333
Speaker 4: The and the guy, the concierge. What is it they're

1316
00:59:17,333 --> 00:59:18,053
Speaker 4: called croupier.

1317
00:59:18,093 --> 00:59:20,453
Speaker 2: I guess they're called just said you get a hunch,

1318
00:59:20,573 --> 00:59:22,253
Speaker 2: you bet the bunch and just dragged it into a

1319
00:59:22,293 --> 00:59:24,893
Speaker 2: hole and then we walked on.

1320
00:59:25,053 --> 00:59:25,893
Speaker 3: Oh that hurts.

1321
00:59:27,933 --> 00:59:30,613
Speaker 2: Disappeared there. Anyway, that's a much bigger story I don't

1322
00:59:30,613 --> 00:59:32,813
Speaker 2: have time to tell now. Zane, welcome to the show.

1323
00:59:34,173 --> 00:59:37,933
Speaker 29: Yeah, okay, yeah, thanks for having me. Guys. So my

1324
00:59:38,093 --> 00:59:41,133
Speaker 29: story is, I'll keep it keep it. A short time

1325
00:59:41,173 --> 00:59:44,533
Speaker 29: from christ Church, I did in my university and then

1326
00:59:44,573 --> 00:59:48,453
Speaker 29: I become a primary school teacher. I did a minimum training,

1327
00:59:48,493 --> 00:59:50,773
Speaker 29: well I did the training and then one year to.

1328
00:59:50,973 --> 00:59:51,853
Speaker 30: Get your certificate.

1329
00:59:52,373 --> 00:59:56,373
Speaker 29: My principal offered me two more years of work, but

1330
00:59:57,413 --> 01:00:00,173
Speaker 29: as my father died there time I hit five thousand dollars,

1331
01:00:00,413 --> 01:00:02,453
Speaker 29: I decided, no, I'm going to hit the road. I

1332
01:00:02,493 --> 01:00:05,493
Speaker 29: went overseas, thinking it was going to be away for

1333
01:00:05,533 --> 01:00:09,173
Speaker 29: two years. I came back nine years later. I was

1334
01:00:09,213 --> 01:00:12,173
Speaker 29: completely broke when I hit New Zellen and my mum

1335
01:00:12,293 --> 01:00:15,813
Speaker 29: lived in Auckland. So I came to Auckland and I

1336
01:00:15,853 --> 01:00:19,173
Speaker 29: was thirty five, and I got a job in a

1337
01:00:19,253 --> 01:00:24,093
Speaker 29: language school. I worked hard, put my money together, and

1338
01:00:24,813 --> 01:00:27,493
Speaker 29: I had a Japanese girlfriend which I met in the class,

1339
01:00:27,733 --> 01:00:30,973
Speaker 29: and together we put a deposit on the home thirty

1340
01:00:31,053 --> 01:00:35,213
Speaker 29: nine four years later in Grayland. And and I'm still

1341
01:00:35,213 --> 01:00:36,813
Speaker 29: thirty two years later, I'm still here.

1342
01:00:37,413 --> 01:00:39,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, well done, Well hang it on Mante thirty two

1343
01:00:39,773 --> 01:00:41,933
Speaker 2: years of owning a home in gray Lin. That's there's

1344
01:00:41,933 --> 01:00:43,853
Speaker 2: some capital game for you there right right there, that

1345
01:00:43,933 --> 01:00:44,733
Speaker 2: Dane change.

1346
01:00:44,813 --> 01:00:44,973
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1347
01:00:45,013 --> 01:00:47,053
Speaker 29: Well, ten years later I bought a house in Point

1348
01:00:47,133 --> 01:00:50,333
Speaker 29: Ship and I had it for eighteen years. I sold

1349
01:00:50,333 --> 01:00:52,933
Speaker 29: it in twenty twenty one, and I'm going to use

1350
01:00:52,933 --> 01:00:55,453
Speaker 29: the equity this year to put about a half a

1351
01:00:55,453 --> 01:00:57,373
Speaker 29: billion renovation on the house.

1352
01:00:57,893 --> 01:00:59,533
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm seventy yeah.

1353
01:00:59,373 --> 01:01:03,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't have it. All's aye, well done?

1354
01:01:03,613 --> 01:01:06,093
Speaker 29: Well yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's just I just

1355
01:01:06,093 --> 01:01:08,773
Speaker 29: said I ended up here I didn't like so this

1356
01:01:08,893 --> 01:01:10,653
Speaker 29: is way corks on the first but that sort of

1357
01:01:10,733 --> 01:01:12,173
Speaker 29: you know, it's growing on me.

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01:01:12,333 --> 01:01:14,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, good place, Good on, yr Zaine. Thank you so

1359
01:01:14,933 --> 01:01:15,773
Speaker 4: much for your call.

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01:01:15,693 --> 01:01:17,493
Speaker 3: And thank you to everybody else who gave us a

1361
01:01:17,493 --> 01:01:19,893
Speaker 3: buzz or texted. That was a great conversation.

1362
01:01:20,973 --> 01:01:24,693
Speaker 2: And you said so anti climac paying off your mortgage,

1363
01:01:24,693 --> 01:01:27,253
Speaker 2: shaved as a solo mother walked and paid off one

1364
01:01:27,293 --> 01:01:29,413
Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand. A couple of cliques of the button,

1365
01:01:29,493 --> 01:01:32,613
Speaker 2: no CONFITTI fell from the ceiling, no balloons, and I

1366
01:01:32,733 --> 01:01:33,533
Speaker 2: walked out again.

1367
01:01:33,653 --> 01:01:35,253
Speaker 3: That is so cutting to hear. They should give you

1368
01:01:35,293 --> 01:01:37,813
Speaker 3: a coin or something, you know, just something to say, well.

1369
01:01:37,613 --> 01:01:40,213
Speaker 4: Done, letter from the king, you paid off your mortgage, come.

1370
01:01:40,053 --> 01:01:43,733
Speaker 3: On, just something to mark the milestone. Anyway, Thank you

1371
01:01:43,853 --> 01:01:45,333
Speaker 3: very much. Right, coming up, we're going to have a

1372
01:01:45,413 --> 01:01:47,693
Speaker 3: chat about Tina from Turner. She's back in the news.

1373
01:01:47,973 --> 01:01:50,893
Speaker 3: Why we'll tell you very shortly. It is twenty seven

1374
01:01:50,893 --> 01:01:51,213
Speaker 3: to three.

1375
01:01:51,413 --> 01:01:53,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just before we go into that, after the news,

1376
01:01:53,133 --> 01:01:55,693
Speaker 2: I've got a little bit of philosophy on settling in

1377
01:01:55,773 --> 01:01:57,373
Speaker 2: life that I just want to cook shit with you

1378
01:01:57,453 --> 01:01:59,693
Speaker 2: and then well then we'll get stuck into fair shaming.

1379
01:01:59,733 --> 01:02:01,813
Speaker 3: All right, this is going to be good twenty seven

1380
01:02:01,853 --> 01:02:02,333
Speaker 3: to three.

1381
01:02:06,333 --> 01:02:06,973
Speaker 12: JUS talks.

1382
01:02:06,973 --> 01:02:10,613
Speaker 16: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxes. It's no trouble

1383
01:02:10,653 --> 01:02:14,333
Speaker 16: with a blue bubble. Some parents could soon be facing

1384
01:02:14,413 --> 01:02:18,133
Speaker 16: significant fines for repeatedly failing to ensure their children are

1385
01:02:18,133 --> 01:02:21,693
Speaker 16: going to school. The Education Minister says this move isn't

1386
01:02:21,733 --> 01:02:26,413
Speaker 16: a law change, it's just enforcing the existing law. Water

1387
01:02:26,453 --> 01:02:29,773
Speaker 16: has been cut to some properties in Dargaville and pressures

1388
01:02:29,853 --> 01:02:33,893
Speaker 16: being reduced in others as reservoir levels dropped dangerously low.

1389
01:02:34,373 --> 01:02:37,613
Speaker 16: The Kaypeta District Council says there were four water main breaks,

1390
01:02:37,653 --> 01:02:41,333
Speaker 16: with two now repaired. The Government's now seeking advice on

1391
01:02:41,413 --> 01:02:44,693
Speaker 16: what action can be taken against the collision Sport Run

1392
01:02:44,693 --> 01:02:48,093
Speaker 16: It Straight following the death of nineteen year old Ryan

1393
01:02:48,173 --> 01:02:52,893
Speaker 16: Sattithwaite in Palmerston North. The board chair of Accident Compensation

1394
01:02:53,053 --> 01:02:57,013
Speaker 16: Agency acc has stepped down as its minister says it's

1395
01:02:57,013 --> 01:03:00,653
Speaker 16: confronting a number of challenging issues. Dr Tracy Batton has

1396
01:03:00,733 --> 01:03:04,493
Speaker 16: left the board after around six years of service, a

1397
01:03:04,533 --> 01:03:07,933
Speaker 16: significant drop in the number of building consents across the country.

1398
01:03:07,973 --> 01:03:11,013
Speaker 16: Figures from statsne Z show more than twenty four hundred

1399
01:03:11,053 --> 01:03:15,853
Speaker 16: new homes consented in April. That's down seventeen percent year

1400
01:03:15,933 --> 01:03:21,853
Speaker 16: on year. Morbid fascination. Why bond yields are spooking equity markets?

1401
01:03:22,053 --> 01:03:24,613
Speaker 16: Find out more at Ins and Herald Premium. I'm back

1402
01:03:24,653 --> 01:03:27,773
Speaker 16: to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1403
01:03:28,813 --> 01:03:32,573
Speaker 3: So we haven't a chat about Tina from Turners. There

1404
01:03:32,613 --> 01:03:35,693
Speaker 3: was oh god, tune you mikee on Tyler. I'm just

1405
01:03:35,693 --> 01:03:38,533
Speaker 3: thinking how I'm cut it? But quiet, Hello, welcome back

1406
01:03:38,533 --> 01:03:40,653
Speaker 3: into the show. We are professionals. We can assure you

1407
01:03:40,773 --> 01:03:41,053
Speaker 3: of that.

1408
01:03:41,453 --> 01:03:45,093
Speaker 4: That's that's two Mike failures in this show today.

1409
01:03:45,093 --> 01:03:48,133
Speaker 3: I've got no excuse. I've got my cans on. I thought, geez, Mike,

1410
01:03:48,253 --> 01:03:49,093
Speaker 3: we need it below.

1411
01:03:49,253 --> 01:03:51,053
Speaker 4: We need one of those things. How many days since

1412
01:03:51,293 --> 01:03:52,693
Speaker 4: Mike failure it's now zero?

1413
01:03:52,813 --> 01:03:56,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Mike taser maybe right just before we get

1414
01:03:56,413 --> 01:03:59,093
Speaker 3: into having a chat about Tina for Tina from Turners.

1415
01:03:59,213 --> 01:04:02,373
Speaker 2: Yes, so we were talking before about you know, first

1416
01:04:02,373 --> 01:04:04,613
Speaker 2: home buyers much older than they used to be, thirty

1417
01:04:04,613 --> 01:04:07,253
Speaker 2: seven as the average in Auckland thirty six, Wellington thirty

1418
01:04:07,253 --> 01:04:10,373
Speaker 2: five and christ Church. And we had a caller, James

1419
01:04:10,373 --> 01:04:13,133
Speaker 2: that came through very early on who decided that he

1420
01:04:13,173 --> 01:04:15,493
Speaker 2: was in love when he was twenty one and has

1421
01:04:15,533 --> 01:04:18,093
Speaker 2: been with the same person ever since, and they've bought

1422
01:04:18,133 --> 01:04:20,013
Speaker 2: their house together. And he was stable, and he puts

1423
01:04:20,013 --> 01:04:21,733
Speaker 2: that down a lot to his success, but yause he

1424
01:04:22,253 --> 01:04:24,373
Speaker 2: wasn't running around trying different things. He was happy to,

1425
01:04:25,293 --> 01:04:26,333
Speaker 2: you know, lay.

1426
01:04:26,133 --> 01:04:28,173
Speaker 4: Some roots, settle down. Yeah.

1427
01:04:28,213 --> 01:04:30,773
Speaker 2: So you know, I was studying this a lot when

1428
01:04:30,773 --> 01:04:32,373
Speaker 2: I was writing my book, and I haven't done it.

1429
01:04:32,373 --> 01:04:33,813
Speaker 2: I haven't talked about my book for a while, so

1430
01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:35,933
Speaker 2: you know, we'll get it in there. What's the title again,

1431
01:04:35,973 --> 01:04:38,093
Speaker 2: Our Life is Punishing Thirteen Ways to Love the Life

1432
01:04:38,133 --> 01:04:39,333
Speaker 2: You've got available.

1433
01:04:38,893 --> 01:04:41,493
Speaker 4: In all good bookstores. Okay, I'm recording the audiobook this weekend,

1434
01:04:41,533 --> 01:04:43,133
Speaker 4: Actually you are. Yeah.

1435
01:04:43,173 --> 01:04:48,493
Speaker 2: But anyway, when I was looking into to to know

1436
01:04:48,573 --> 01:04:52,733
Speaker 2: loneliness and happiness in life, in one of the chapters,

1437
01:04:51,053 --> 01:04:55,293
Speaker 2: there's a couple of philosophers that I thought i'd share

1438
01:04:55,333 --> 01:04:57,853
Speaker 2: this for you. And because we're all told to try

1439
01:04:57,853 --> 01:04:59,493
Speaker 2: and find the perfect person in the world, and that's

1440
01:04:59,533 --> 01:05:01,293
Speaker 2: what we're actually trying to do. There's a perfect person

1441
01:05:01,333 --> 01:05:03,693
Speaker 2: for you out there, and that you should do everything

1442
01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:05,693
Speaker 2: you can to get that person, and you shouldn't settle

1443
01:05:05,773 --> 01:05:08,613
Speaker 2: in life. There's a perfect person waiting for you, and

1444
01:05:08,653 --> 01:05:09,533
Speaker 2: you should spend.

1445
01:05:09,293 --> 01:05:09,813
Speaker 4: Years doing it.

1446
01:05:09,853 --> 01:05:13,133
Speaker 2: So so I'll just read this, but if you spend

1447
01:05:13,133 --> 01:05:15,813
Speaker 2: your life searching for a person who doesn't exist, you're

1448
01:05:15,813 --> 01:05:17,773
Speaker 2: going to spend a serious amount of time on your own.

1449
01:05:18,013 --> 01:05:20,373
Speaker 2: In this life changing book, The Course of Love, British

1450
01:05:20,373 --> 01:05:23,813
Speaker 2: author Elen de Button argues that it is infantile to

1451
01:05:23,893 --> 01:05:26,653
Speaker 2: expect someone to be simultaneously a best friend, a lover,

1452
01:05:26,893 --> 01:05:30,213
Speaker 2: a co parent, a co chauffeur, and a business partner.

1453
01:05:30,973 --> 01:05:33,893
Speaker 2: This idea leads to resentment and disappointment and ruins marriages

1454
01:05:33,933 --> 01:05:37,173
Speaker 2: that would otherwise be very fruitful and rewarding. A partner

1455
01:05:37,173 --> 01:05:39,413
Speaker 2: doesn't need to fill all of these roles in your life.

1456
01:05:39,453 --> 01:05:41,533
Speaker 2: Your mates can be your best mates, your business partner,

1457
01:05:41,573 --> 01:05:44,213
Speaker 2: your business partner, and your lover your lover. All you

1458
01:05:44,253 --> 01:05:46,413
Speaker 2: have to do is find someone you like who loves

1459
01:05:46,453 --> 01:05:48,973
Speaker 2: you and you love back. Once you've done this, settle.

1460
01:05:49,013 --> 01:05:51,853
Speaker 2: The British philosopher of a Bertman believes that not only

1461
01:05:52,013 --> 01:05:54,853
Speaker 2: should you we look to settle we should do it

1462
01:05:55,293 --> 01:05:57,053
Speaker 2: in a way that makes it harder to back out.

1463
01:05:57,133 --> 01:06:00,213
Speaker 2: Moving in together, kids, marriage, by a house. You only

1464
01:06:00,253 --> 01:06:02,293
Speaker 2: have so much time in the world to build a life,

1465
01:06:02,293 --> 01:06:04,853
Speaker 2: so lock in some people around you and share what

1466
01:06:04,893 --> 01:06:07,053
Speaker 2: little time you have with them. We end up happier

1467
01:06:07,253 --> 01:06:10,413
Speaker 2: when we give up the fantasy life and get busy living.

1468
01:06:10,133 --> 01:06:10,773
Speaker 4: Out real one.

1469
01:06:10,973 --> 01:06:17,173
Speaker 3: There you go, yeah, busy living settle, settle, settle early,

1470
01:06:17,253 --> 01:06:19,693
Speaker 3: find a girl, settle early and buy a house.

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01:06:19,733 --> 01:06:21,053
Speaker 4: Find a girl and settle down.

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01:06:20,973 --> 01:06:24,533
Speaker 3: You crazy kids. Great discussion, and thank you very much.

1473
01:06:24,533 --> 01:06:26,933
Speaker 3: There's a great piece. So let's have a chat about

1474
01:06:26,933 --> 01:06:29,333
Speaker 3: Tina from Turner's. She is back in the news, well

1475
01:06:29,333 --> 01:06:32,173
Speaker 3: the ad anyway, and most of us would know the advert.

1476
01:06:32,213 --> 01:06:34,653
Speaker 3: It has been wildly successful. It's an earworm. It is

1477
01:06:34,693 --> 01:06:36,773
Speaker 3: pretty annoying for a lot of people now, but very

1478
01:06:36,853 --> 01:06:40,973
Speaker 3: very catchy. But that ad in particular, which includes the

1479
01:06:41,013 --> 01:06:43,893
Speaker 3: line you got so fat the seats don't fit, hasn't

1480
01:06:43,893 --> 01:06:47,373
Speaker 3: gone down well with everyone. But here is a little

1481
01:06:47,413 --> 01:06:48,133
Speaker 3: bit of that ad.

1482
01:06:48,533 --> 01:06:54,253
Speaker 31: You've got so fat seed stone fatsion.

1483
01:06:58,133 --> 01:07:01,093
Speaker 3: All right, all right, so we've heard that plenty of time.

1484
01:07:01,213 --> 01:07:03,213
Speaker 3: So some of the complaints that came through about that

1485
01:07:03,293 --> 01:07:06,013
Speaker 3: particular line and ad, so I'll read out the exact

1486
01:07:06,093 --> 01:07:10,053
Speaker 3: quotes that were sent to the ASA, the Advertising Standards Authority.

1487
01:07:10,253 --> 01:07:14,253
Speaker 3: This advert contains a song, jingle and depiction depiction rather

1488
01:07:14,453 --> 01:07:17,173
Speaker 3: of a very fat person trying to enter into a car.

1489
01:07:17,533 --> 01:07:20,653
Speaker 3: The jingle also refers to that fat person. The issue

1490
01:07:20,653 --> 01:07:24,053
Speaker 3: I have with this advert is its context of fat shaming.

1491
01:07:24,173 --> 01:07:27,333
Speaker 3: That was one complaint. Another one was a significant percentage

1492
01:07:27,373 --> 01:07:30,533
Speaker 3: of kiwis a classified as ob circer forty percent in

1493
01:07:30,573 --> 01:07:34,093
Speaker 3: this advertisement is a major offensive slur on fat people,

1494
01:07:34,173 --> 01:07:37,013
Speaker 3: some of who overweight or obese through no fault of

1495
01:07:37,013 --> 01:07:39,773
Speaker 3: their own due to medical conditions. The new Turner's ad

1496
01:07:39,773 --> 01:07:41,893
Speaker 3: features Tina in a fat suit and the words you

1497
01:07:41,933 --> 01:07:44,613
Speaker 3: got so fat, the seats don't fit and a final one.

1498
01:07:44,893 --> 01:07:47,733
Speaker 3: I have contacted the marketing manager at Tenna's car who

1499
01:07:47,893 --> 01:07:51,133
Speaker 3: refuted my concerns about fat shaming and the offensiveness it

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01:07:51,133 --> 01:07:52,533
Speaker 3: would cause to a lot of people.

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01:07:52,653 --> 01:07:55,493
Speaker 2: Okay, but the ASA, the Advertising Standards Authority, what did

1502
01:07:55,493 --> 01:07:56,373
Speaker 2: they come back with, Tyler?

1503
01:07:56,493 --> 01:07:59,493
Speaker 3: They said, I quote, the ad does not reach the

1504
01:07:59,493 --> 01:08:03,053
Speaker 3: threshold to breach the relevant Advertising Standards Authority codes and

1505
01:08:03,093 --> 01:08:06,573
Speaker 3: therefore we will not take it any further. So effecta

1506
01:08:07,213 --> 01:08:07,733
Speaker 3: do you go.

1507
01:08:07,973 --> 01:08:11,493
Speaker 2: So the ASA, the Advertising Stands Authority, that's pretty strict.

1508
01:08:12,133 --> 01:08:14,373
Speaker 2: As I was saying before, they're way more strict than

1509
01:08:14,413 --> 01:08:17,933
Speaker 2: the BSA, the Broadcasting Stands Authority that this radio show

1510
01:08:17,973 --> 01:08:23,972
Speaker 2: and television broadcasts are under and personally, I've been rebuked

1511
01:08:23,973 --> 01:08:27,972
Speaker 2: and fined and shamed by the Broadcasting Standards Authority many times.

1512
01:08:27,853 --> 01:08:28,892
Speaker 3: In my life. I've come after you.

1513
01:08:29,293 --> 01:08:32,652
Speaker 2: They're they're pretty loose. They're pretty loose, but they've come

1514
01:08:32,692 --> 01:08:36,052
Speaker 2: after me. The advertised the Advertising Stands Authority is pretty strict.

1515
01:08:36,093 --> 01:08:38,973
Speaker 2: So if this is cool, if this is cool to

1516
01:08:39,013 --> 01:08:41,532
Speaker 2: say that in an ad, right, then does that mean

1517
01:08:41,572 --> 01:08:44,253
Speaker 2: we're allowed to joke about weight again? Because there's a

1518
01:08:44,293 --> 01:08:47,892
Speaker 2: lot of talk around that you can't be joking about

1519
01:08:47,933 --> 01:08:50,293
Speaker 2: weight and that any joking about someone's weight as we

1520
01:08:50,412 --> 01:08:53,372
Speaker 2: have in this particular ad is fat shaming. But if

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01:08:53,372 --> 01:08:57,093
Speaker 2: the ASA doesn't think it is, then maybe that's where

1522
01:08:57,133 --> 01:08:59,492
Speaker 2: we're at now. You know, forty percent of the country

1523
01:08:59,532 --> 01:09:05,852
Speaker 2: is obese, so you know, not not making jokes about weight,

1524
01:09:05,893 --> 01:09:07,932
Speaker 2: which will be doing less. I've lately has not been

1525
01:09:07,933 --> 01:09:10,133
Speaker 2: making peace people less obese, has it?

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01:09:10,293 --> 01:09:10,452
Speaker 6: No?

1527
01:09:10,612 --> 01:09:12,732
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1528
01:09:12,772 --> 01:09:15,492
Speaker 3: Because here's the thing, right, is that skinny people get

1529
01:09:15,492 --> 01:09:17,812
Speaker 3: made fun of, and a hopefully a bit of a

1530
01:09:18,173 --> 01:09:21,333
Speaker 3: banterish way, a jovial way. But sure people made fun of,

1531
01:09:21,412 --> 01:09:24,532
Speaker 3: tall people made fun of But if someone is a

1532
01:09:24,532 --> 01:09:28,772
Speaker 3: bit overweight, you cannot say anything about their particular weight

1533
01:09:28,812 --> 01:09:32,492
Speaker 3: without absolutely being a visrated And so can you get

1534
01:09:32,492 --> 01:09:33,652
Speaker 3: your thoughts on that? As that you know?

1535
01:09:33,732 --> 01:09:35,973
Speaker 4: Well? Andrew Dickens wrote an article in the Held if

1536
01:09:35,973 --> 01:09:39,573
Speaker 4: I remember rightly about he's a very thin man, Yeah,

1537
01:09:39,612 --> 01:09:43,293
Speaker 4: a very thin man, and he reckons that he's been hassled.

1538
01:09:43,053 --> 01:09:44,772
Speaker 2: Quite a lot about being skinny exactly. You can read

1539
01:09:44,772 --> 01:09:46,772
Speaker 2: that in the Herald. So how do you feel about that?

1540
01:09:46,772 --> 01:09:49,093
Speaker 4: What have you got? The line again? There it's you've

1541
01:09:49,133 --> 01:09:50,973
Speaker 4: got so fat you can't fit in it.

1542
01:09:51,333 --> 01:09:54,492
Speaker 31: You got got so fat, stone fat.

1543
01:09:54,412 --> 01:09:56,772
Speaker 3: Got so fan as well? She do we get there

1544
01:09:56,812 --> 01:09:58,333
Speaker 3: as well? So Tina, shame on you.

1545
01:09:58,492 --> 01:09:59,293
Speaker 4: She's great New Zealand.

1546
01:09:59,933 --> 01:10:02,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1547
01:10:02,293 --> 01:10:04,692
Speaker 3: number to call. It is seventeen to three back in

1548
01:10:04,692 --> 01:10:05,092
Speaker 3: a mow.

1549
01:10:06,532 --> 01:10:10,693
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon tour mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

1550
01:10:10,933 --> 01:10:14,293
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk Savy.

1551
01:10:14,772 --> 01:10:17,652
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about Tina from Turner's the very

1552
01:10:17,732 --> 01:10:21,333
Speaker 3: popular and catchy new ad, but it has sparked a

1553
01:10:21,333 --> 01:10:24,372
Speaker 3: few complaints of the ASA, and as you said before,

1554
01:10:24,372 --> 01:10:27,893
Speaker 3: matt ASA certainly has some teeth when it comes to complaints.

1555
01:10:28,213 --> 01:10:31,372
Speaker 3: These two complaints though around fat shaming. There's a line

1556
01:10:31,372 --> 01:10:33,572
Speaker 3: in that ad you got so fat, the seats don't fit,

1557
01:10:33,732 --> 01:10:36,093
Speaker 3: and Tina is wearing a fat suit, and so a

1558
01:10:36,093 --> 01:10:38,732
Speaker 3: handful of complaints have been sent into the ASA. But

1559
01:10:38,812 --> 01:10:41,932
Speaker 3: the ASA went back to those complainers and said, nothing

1560
01:10:41,933 --> 01:10:44,213
Speaker 3: to see here. It does not reach the threshold.

1561
01:10:44,492 --> 01:10:46,612
Speaker 2: So what's the exact line here? Because people are texting

1562
01:10:46,652 --> 01:10:47,933
Speaker 2: through asking but.

1563
01:10:48,093 --> 01:10:50,853
Speaker 31: You've got so fat, set stone fast.

1564
01:10:50,692 --> 01:10:52,692
Speaker 2: So that someone sets through. You've got this wrong. The

1565
01:10:52,772 --> 01:10:55,092
Speaker 2: quote is so fat, the seats don't fat. It doesn't

1566
01:10:55,093 --> 01:10:58,652
Speaker 2: say you're so fat you don't fit, So no shaming. No,

1567
01:10:58,772 --> 01:11:00,652
Speaker 2: it seys you got so fat.

1568
01:11:00,492 --> 01:11:03,052
Speaker 31: You've got so fat, seed stone fit.

1569
01:11:03,013 --> 01:11:04,612
Speaker 2: You've got so fat, the seats don't fat. Well, I

1570
01:11:04,612 --> 01:11:07,053
Speaker 2: could tell you what it's. We're definitely it's definitely working

1571
01:11:07,053 --> 01:11:07,932
Speaker 2: for them in terms of.

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01:11:08,412 --> 01:11:09,452
Speaker 4: Yeah, that free marketing.

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01:11:09,612 --> 01:11:10,213
Speaker 3: It certainly is.

1574
01:11:10,452 --> 01:11:11,812
Speaker 4: As we play it over and over again.

1575
01:11:11,893 --> 01:11:14,253
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1576
01:11:14,293 --> 01:11:14,572
Speaker 3: to call.

1577
01:11:14,692 --> 01:11:16,932
Speaker 2: I work in marketing myself. No matter what marketing you do,

1578
01:11:17,013 --> 01:11:19,013
Speaker 2: people will have problems. The reason the campaign is so

1579
01:11:19,013 --> 01:11:22,253
Speaker 2: successful is due to the slightly off kilter nature. It's

1580
01:11:22,293 --> 01:11:24,852
Speaker 2: probably one of the most successful campaigns in New Zealand

1581
01:11:24,853 --> 01:11:27,852
Speaker 2: in the last five years. Eight hundred thousand views on YouTube,

1582
01:11:27,893 --> 01:11:28,293
Speaker 2: I believe.

1583
01:11:28,333 --> 01:11:31,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, very very successful. Oh my god, guys, we are

1584
01:11:31,933 --> 01:11:34,293
Speaker 3: getting very precious. I am overweight and I had a

1585
01:11:34,372 --> 01:11:37,012
Speaker 3: chuckle at this ad because it would be my sore

1586
01:11:37,093 --> 01:11:39,213
Speaker 3: knees that would make me look like that getting into

1587
01:11:39,213 --> 01:11:40,812
Speaker 3: the car, not my weight from Karen.

1588
01:11:40,812 --> 01:11:43,333
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Jason your thoughts on this.

1589
01:11:44,093 --> 01:11:44,492
Speaker 32: Hey man?

1590
01:11:44,612 --> 01:11:45,852
Speaker 22: How we're doing very good?

1591
01:11:46,532 --> 01:11:47,093
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

1592
01:11:47,213 --> 01:11:51,053
Speaker 32: I think the guys at the advertisment' got this right.

1593
01:11:51,173 --> 01:11:52,572
Speaker 32: Heaven though, I mean, come on, it's a bit of

1594
01:11:52,572 --> 01:11:54,852
Speaker 32: a chuckle. I mean, we're not talking about the lorical

1595
01:11:54,893 --> 01:11:58,492
Speaker 32: genius viving animal Taylor Soft here. This is It's quite comedic,

1596
01:11:59,013 --> 01:12:01,213
Speaker 32: you know, and for the next twenty minutes, you know,

1597
01:12:01,293 --> 01:12:03,812
Speaker 32: talk about this on primetime radio. It's been on the news,

1598
01:12:03,812 --> 01:12:05,253
Speaker 32: it's been on the Heir and the stuff. This is

1599
01:12:05,293 --> 01:12:07,812
Speaker 32: the best use of the strides in effect they've ever heard. Yeah,

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01:12:08,372 --> 01:12:12,133
Speaker 32: must be laughing a way all the way to the bank. Ye, unbelievable.

1601
01:12:13,093 --> 01:12:14,932
Speaker 32: You know, I'm fair, you're ugly, but I can die

1602
01:12:15,013 --> 01:12:17,652
Speaker 32: you get on far out?

1603
01:12:17,812 --> 01:12:21,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about? Because it's I think it

1604
01:12:21,133 --> 01:12:23,333
Speaker 3: is the case, Jason. Then when it comes to people

1605
01:12:23,333 --> 01:12:26,333
Speaker 3: being overweight, you can tend to make people make fun

1606
01:12:26,372 --> 01:12:28,892
Speaker 3: of people for being skinny or being too tall or

1607
01:12:28,973 --> 01:12:31,692
Speaker 3: being sure, and they don't take offense. But then when

1608
01:12:31,732 --> 01:12:33,732
Speaker 3: it comes to and there's a word for it, fat

1609
01:12:33,772 --> 01:12:37,972
Speaker 3: shaming apparently, you know, fat shaming is a massive taboo.

1610
01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:40,772
Speaker 3: And it's just to me, it doesn't make much sense.

1611
01:12:40,893 --> 01:12:43,692
Speaker 3: I'm I'm quite a chunky fella at the moment. And

1612
01:12:43,772 --> 01:12:45,852
Speaker 3: if Matt said to me, he said, mane geez, you've

1613
01:12:45,853 --> 01:12:48,133
Speaker 3: got a massive gut on you.

1614
01:12:48,133 --> 01:12:49,213
Speaker 4: You've got a massive gut on you.

1615
01:12:49,333 --> 01:12:49,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

1616
01:12:49,853 --> 01:12:54,013
Speaker 4: I do think it's really offended actually, but yeah, I.

1617
01:12:54,013 --> 01:12:55,932
Speaker 3: Don't know if you've got any thoughts on that, Jason,

1618
01:12:55,973 --> 01:12:58,293
Speaker 3: about why that seems to be a no no whereas

1619
01:12:58,333 --> 01:13:01,133
Speaker 3: other bits of bend are okay when it comes to how.

1620
01:13:01,013 --> 01:13:03,372
Speaker 32: We look, Oh, I think it's I mean, there's all

1621
01:13:03,372 --> 01:13:05,173
Speaker 32: sorts of Benn't it's about the way you look, the

1622
01:13:05,173 --> 01:13:07,612
Speaker 32: way you feel, the color your here, you know, the

1623
01:13:07,692 --> 01:13:09,892
Speaker 32: old hugger and all that sort of stuff. You know,

1624
01:13:10,213 --> 01:13:14,053
Speaker 32: things are good, things are bad, and just have a

1625
01:13:14,053 --> 01:13:15,932
Speaker 32: good laugh and if you don't like it, churned to channel.

1626
01:13:16,213 --> 01:13:16,892
Speaker 32: Was anything right?

1627
01:13:17,013 --> 01:13:21,092
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Don't use turns a little.

1628
01:13:20,853 --> 01:13:22,612
Speaker 32: Bit too pressure. It's a little bit too pressure.

1629
01:13:22,732 --> 01:13:23,532
Speaker 4: Well, thanks, Jason.

1630
01:13:23,532 --> 01:13:26,532
Speaker 2: But the to be fair, the advertising stands authority agreed

1631
01:13:26,732 --> 01:13:28,372
Speaker 2: and they said it was fine. But I mean, it's

1632
01:13:28,372 --> 01:13:31,652
Speaker 2: not really fat shaming because you're not really judging. You're

1633
01:13:31,692 --> 01:13:35,173
Speaker 2: just saying something there's a potential. It is possible that

1634
01:13:35,213 --> 01:13:38,293
Speaker 2: someone could get so fat that the seats.

1635
01:13:38,053 --> 01:13:38,932
Speaker 4: Don't fit anymore.

1636
01:13:39,053 --> 01:13:41,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, but she's not saying I think any

1637
01:13:41,532 --> 01:13:43,772
Speaker 2: less of you because of that, or that you're somehow

1638
01:13:43,812 --> 01:13:46,572
Speaker 2: a bad person or a lesser person because you got

1639
01:13:46,572 --> 01:13:47,652
Speaker 2: so fat the seats don't fit.

1640
01:13:47,732 --> 01:13:49,932
Speaker 3: It's a good point, wasn't jo. It was just saying

1641
01:13:50,013 --> 01:13:51,012
Speaker 3: this could be a reality.

1642
01:13:51,093 --> 01:13:51,253
Speaker 32: Yeah.

1643
01:13:51,253 --> 01:13:53,492
Speaker 4: Oh, it's definitely reality. It's it's something that's happened.

1644
01:13:53,853 --> 01:13:56,733
Speaker 2: So, you know, can you be offended by someone describing

1645
01:13:56,812 --> 01:13:57,652
Speaker 2: something that's true?

1646
01:13:58,253 --> 01:13:59,212
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just reality.

1647
01:13:59,253 --> 01:14:02,852
Speaker 3: It's just a description of reality exactly our takes to you. Guys.

1648
01:14:03,532 --> 01:14:06,333
Speaker 3: What if Turners made the complaint themselves for extra attention.

1649
01:14:06,652 --> 01:14:07,972
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe be brilliant.

1650
01:14:07,973 --> 01:14:10,812
Speaker 3: That would very fre that'd be genius. Eight one hundred

1651
01:14:10,933 --> 01:14:11,732
Speaker 3: eighty eight.

1652
01:14:12,412 --> 01:14:14,452
Speaker 2: This Texas says, Hi, guys, I'm fat. The ad makes

1653
01:14:14,492 --> 01:14:17,412
Speaker 2: me laugh. Time to get over ourselves, loll Yeah.

1654
01:14:17,412 --> 01:14:18,892
Speaker 3: We're taking your calls on this and I love to

1655
01:14:18,893 --> 01:14:20,932
Speaker 3: hear your thoughts. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty few

1656
01:14:20,973 --> 01:14:23,173
Speaker 3: calls to get to very shortly. It is ten to

1657
01:14:23,173 --> 01:14:23,852
Speaker 3: two three.

1658
01:14:25,853 --> 01:14:28,253
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1659
01:14:28,293 --> 01:14:31,772
Speaker 1: along the way. Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons us

1660
01:14:31,853 --> 01:14:32,532
Speaker 1: talk said, be.

1661
01:14:34,053 --> 01:14:34,732
Speaker 5: Good afternoon.

1662
01:14:34,853 --> 01:14:37,372
Speaker 3: That is our queue to start talking, and we are

1663
01:14:37,652 --> 01:14:39,772
Speaker 3: having a chat about fat shaming on the back of

1664
01:14:39,853 --> 01:14:44,253
Speaker 3: teeners from Turners car ad. It did encourage a few

1665
01:14:44,253 --> 01:14:46,812
Speaker 3: complaints to the ASA. They've turned down those complaints, but

1666
01:14:46,853 --> 01:14:49,492
Speaker 3: the complaints were about a particular part of the ad.

1667
01:14:49,572 --> 01:14:52,852
Speaker 3: The lion is we'll play that very shortly, but the

1668
01:14:52,893 --> 01:14:55,412
Speaker 3: line is you got so fat the seats don't fit,

1669
01:14:56,213 --> 01:14:59,092
Speaker 3: and so the complainers said that was clearly fat shaming,

1670
01:14:59,093 --> 01:15:01,772
Speaker 3: but the ASA said it did not reach the threshold.

1671
01:15:01,893 --> 01:15:04,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is that as the AASA, as I say before,

1672
01:15:04,492 --> 01:15:07,532
Speaker 2: which is much harder harsher than the BSA, much stricter

1673
01:15:07,893 --> 01:15:09,692
Speaker 2: as the A say saying that just mean that it's

1674
01:15:09,732 --> 01:15:12,453
Speaker 2: sweet as now and we've moved on from a previously

1675
01:15:12,492 --> 01:15:15,852
Speaker 2: quite precious phase in our history to just being a

1676
01:15:15,853 --> 01:15:19,173
Speaker 2: little bit chill about things. This text just says here,

1677
01:15:19,293 --> 01:15:22,532
Speaker 2: love love, love this ad, love Tina, love everything about

1678
01:15:22,532 --> 01:15:24,812
Speaker 2: this ad, whereas this text has said this ad made

1679
01:15:24,853 --> 01:15:27,333
Speaker 2: me pay for YouTube success.

1680
01:15:27,412 --> 01:15:27,812
Speaker 4: That's funny.

1681
01:15:27,853 --> 01:15:29,532
Speaker 2: When I said before there was eight hundred thousand views

1682
01:15:29,572 --> 01:15:31,293
Speaker 2: on YouTube, I wonder how many of those are forced?

1683
01:15:31,532 --> 01:15:34,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very true. My god, there's a lot of

1684
01:15:34,213 --> 01:15:37,452
Speaker 4: ads on video ads on YouTube, Oh my god. In

1685
01:15:37,532 --> 01:15:39,452
Speaker 4: certification of the Internet. Well that's another issue.

1686
01:15:39,652 --> 01:15:41,173
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1687
01:15:41,253 --> 01:15:43,972
Speaker 3: number to call up to hear your thoughts on this one, Nicole?

1688
01:15:44,333 --> 01:15:48,213
Speaker 3: How are you? Oh, Tim? Sorry, sorry, we'll go, we'll go,

1689
01:15:48,572 --> 01:15:49,293
Speaker 3: we'll go, we'll go.

1690
01:15:49,372 --> 01:15:52,452
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. How are you good?

1691
01:15:52,652 --> 01:15:56,293
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm good. I personally sent the complaint or a

1692
01:15:56,333 --> 01:15:58,612
Speaker 14: couple of people who sent the complaint to the as

1693
01:15:58,652 --> 01:16:02,052
Speaker 14: they should start It group talk about how their feelings

1694
01:16:02,093 --> 01:16:05,052
Speaker 14: and all that sort of thing. You know, I've grain

1695
01:16:05,093 --> 01:16:12,213
Speaker 14: a seat and you're either charge and you know, lose weight,

1696
01:16:12,933 --> 01:16:16,333
Speaker 14: or we'll just deal with the crap that will come

1697
01:16:16,372 --> 01:16:16,732
Speaker 14: your way.

1698
01:16:17,452 --> 01:16:21,333
Speaker 4: You know, did you did you outgrow a car seat?

1699
01:16:22,652 --> 01:16:23,053
Speaker 32: I did?

1700
01:16:23,572 --> 01:16:28,532
Speaker 14: I did a disgraceful lovely seat as well nice for

1701
01:16:28,692 --> 01:16:33,092
Speaker 14: car seat, and I was seriously threatened the bolsters and

1702
01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:36,452
Speaker 14: it's like I can't be having that. So my solution,

1703
01:16:36,572 --> 01:16:40,253
Speaker 14: house is my solution. I've got a different car for.

1704
01:16:40,213 --> 01:16:41,772
Speaker 3: A while from tennis.

1705
01:16:41,812 --> 01:16:46,253
Speaker 14: I didn't want to No, I didn't actually house.

1706
01:16:47,372 --> 01:16:53,052
Speaker 4: So I mean seriously, no, no, no, no, you go, tim.

1707
01:16:52,013 --> 01:16:56,093
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean so you know, uh.

1708
01:16:55,532 --> 01:16:57,652
Speaker 14: You've got to deal with just got to deal with it.

1709
01:16:58,612 --> 01:17:01,093
Speaker 14: You know, if you're overweight and you don't, people are

1710
01:17:01,093 --> 01:17:10,132
Speaker 14: going to make compliments about comments, whether you're fat, skinny, black, white, anything.

1711
01:17:10,692 --> 01:17:13,452
Speaker 14: It's open season. And if you live alive in this

1712
01:17:13,572 --> 01:17:19,452
Speaker 14: world and either let it roll off or have them

1713
01:17:19,492 --> 01:17:20,293
Speaker 14: up about it.

1714
01:17:21,093 --> 01:17:23,372
Speaker 2: People when you are are you still are you able

1715
01:17:23,412 --> 01:17:24,892
Speaker 2: to fit into car seats?

1716
01:17:24,893 --> 01:17:25,093
Speaker 4: Now?

1717
01:17:26,372 --> 01:17:28,372
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm sitting in my WEF.

1718
01:17:28,412 --> 01:17:32,052
Speaker 14: You canry right now. Quite generous generous seating.

1719
01:17:33,692 --> 01:17:35,732
Speaker 2: And when you were in the state where you couldn't

1720
01:17:35,772 --> 01:17:38,532
Speaker 2: fit in seats? Did people did people bring that up

1721
01:17:38,532 --> 01:17:40,093
Speaker 2: with you? Did people say that to you, that you

1722
01:17:40,213 --> 01:17:41,333
Speaker 2: that they thought you were overweight?

1723
01:17:43,133 --> 01:17:46,692
Speaker 14: People pointed out to me absolutely, and they were right

1724
01:17:46,732 --> 01:17:49,532
Speaker 14: to do so in a good way, you know. And

1725
01:17:49,532 --> 01:17:52,932
Speaker 14: you are always going to get the you know, somebody

1726
01:17:52,933 --> 01:17:55,973
Speaker 14: who can't quite articulate their thoughts that well, like you know,

1727
01:17:57,013 --> 01:18:00,372
Speaker 14: FC and that kind of thing and whatever. That's good

1728
01:18:00,372 --> 01:18:05,973
Speaker 14: as well a smile, nod and or or dish it

1729
01:18:06,093 --> 01:18:10,652
Speaker 14: back and you'll generally find that they can't heck it anyway.

1730
01:18:10,973 --> 01:18:13,053
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call, Tim, And you

1731
01:18:13,053 --> 01:18:14,572
Speaker 2: know it sounds like you've got at attitude on that.

1732
01:18:14,812 --> 01:18:16,612
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of calls coming through one hundred

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01:18:16,612 --> 01:18:18,052
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eight. So should we keep this topic

1734
01:18:18,133 --> 01:18:19,213
Speaker 2: going after the news?

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01:18:19,293 --> 01:18:21,412
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and we want to hear from you so fat

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01:18:21,452 --> 01:18:24,733
Speaker 3: shaming On the back of this turner's ed the a

1737
01:18:24,732 --> 01:18:27,732
Speaker 3: A said that it didn't meet the threshold with the

1738
01:18:27,772 --> 01:18:29,732
Speaker 3: line you got so fat the seats don't fit?

1739
01:18:29,812 --> 01:18:32,293
Speaker 31: So can you get fat the seats don't fit?

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01:18:32,732 --> 01:18:38,892
Speaker 33: Exactly your new home for insightful and Entertaining talk, It's

1741
01:18:39,053 --> 01:18:43,012
Speaker 33: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News Talk.

1742
01:18:42,853 --> 01:18:48,652
Speaker 3: Sebby Very Good Afternoons. You welcome back into the program.

1743
01:18:48,652 --> 01:18:51,012
Speaker 3: Great to have your company as always, and we're talking

1744
01:18:51,013 --> 01:18:55,212
Speaker 3: about fat shaming. This is after some complaints targeted towards

1745
01:18:55,253 --> 01:18:59,293
Speaker 3: the Tina from Turner's popular and catchy ad. So the

1746
01:18:59,333 --> 01:19:02,972
Speaker 3: complaints came into the asas. One of the complaints said,

1747
01:19:04,133 --> 01:19:07,133
Speaker 3: the advert contains the song jingle and a depiction of

1748
01:19:07,173 --> 01:19:09,492
Speaker 3: a very fat person trying to get into a car.

1749
01:19:09,732 --> 01:19:12,213
Speaker 3: The jingle also refers to that fat person. The issue

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01:19:12,253 --> 01:19:16,532
Speaker 3: I have with this advert is its context of fat shaming.

1751
01:19:16,652 --> 01:19:18,973
Speaker 3: So the line in that ad is you've got so

1752
01:19:19,133 --> 01:19:22,612
Speaker 3: fat the seats don't fit for The ASA came back

1753
01:19:22,652 --> 01:19:25,213
Speaker 3: and said that it does not reach the three shold

1754
01:19:25,293 --> 01:19:28,772
Speaker 3: to breach the relevant Advertising Standards Authority code.

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01:19:28,853 --> 01:19:30,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, And so I was saying before, the

1756
01:19:30,732 --> 01:19:34,133
Speaker 2: ASA is far more strict than the BSA, BSA being

1757
01:19:34,133 --> 01:19:36,612
Speaker 2: the Broadcasting Stands Authority in the ASA being the Advertising

1758
01:19:36,652 --> 01:19:39,772
Speaker 2: Standards authority. So if they don't have a problem with that,

1759
01:19:39,812 --> 01:19:43,132
Speaker 2: does that mean that's sort of an indicator that as

1760
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:46,013
Speaker 2: a nation we've sort of moved on from being as

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01:19:46,013 --> 01:19:49,133
Speaker 2: precious as we were at one stage because we got

1762
01:19:49,133 --> 01:19:50,532
Speaker 2: pretty precious for a while there.

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01:19:50,692 --> 01:19:51,372
Speaker 3: We certainly did.

1764
01:19:51,532 --> 01:19:54,492
Speaker 2: Or am I reading too much into it? Eight hundred

1765
01:19:54,492 --> 01:19:56,732
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty And what do you think about

1766
01:19:56,772 --> 01:19:59,093
Speaker 2: the ad? Do you actually think it's fat shaming? And

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01:19:59,213 --> 01:20:02,492
Speaker 2: there is there is a problem here this textas says,

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01:20:03,652 --> 01:20:05,732
Speaker 2: my friend and I wade a playgroup. This big woman

1769
01:20:06,013 --> 01:20:10,293
Speaker 2: said to her, God you to skinny a quick ad

1770
01:20:10,372 --> 01:20:12,772
Speaker 2: a flash. She said, how would you feel it if

1771
01:20:12,772 --> 01:20:14,052
Speaker 2: we said, God, you're fat?

1772
01:20:14,093 --> 01:20:14,532
Speaker 4: Pauline?

1773
01:20:14,772 --> 01:20:17,093
Speaker 2: Both of us were young mothers and we are very

1774
01:20:17,093 --> 01:20:19,732
Speaker 2: busy and that sort of thing. We couldn't put on

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01:20:19,772 --> 01:20:20,213
Speaker 2: weight there.

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01:20:20,253 --> 01:20:22,532
Speaker 3: So there you go in this text to sees guys.

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01:20:22,572 --> 01:20:24,692
Speaker 3: My issue with this fat shaming is is it okay

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01:20:24,732 --> 01:20:26,812
Speaker 3: for kids to start saying that to others at school

1779
01:20:26,893 --> 01:20:29,093
Speaker 3: or home? Don't we discourage this and tell them to

1780
01:20:29,133 --> 01:20:31,452
Speaker 3: be kind? So why is it okay just because it's

1781
01:20:31,452 --> 01:20:34,772
Speaker 3: in a jingle? We feel like people like the tune

1782
01:20:34,772 --> 01:20:37,732
Speaker 3: of you put more offensive stuff in it. It is

1783
01:20:37,812 --> 01:20:40,293
Speaker 3: the tune the person we like or what has been said.

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01:20:40,333 --> 01:20:43,173
Speaker 3: You can't have two rules. What are we saying to

1785
01:20:43,213 --> 01:20:47,173
Speaker 3: the younger ones watching? Just don't understand you giving fat

1786
01:20:47,253 --> 01:20:48,212
Speaker 3: shaming airtime?

1787
01:20:48,933 --> 01:20:49,213
Speaker 20: Yeah?

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01:20:49,213 --> 01:20:51,892
Speaker 2: Well, That's interesting because can you expect to live a

1789
01:20:51,973 --> 01:20:55,053
Speaker 2: life where people don't say things that are true? So

1790
01:20:55,333 --> 01:20:57,732
Speaker 2: if you have got so fat that you can't fit

1791
01:20:57,772 --> 01:21:00,492
Speaker 2: in the car seat, then can you live a life

1792
01:21:00,973 --> 01:21:03,013
Speaker 2: can you expect people never to say that? If things

1793
01:21:03,053 --> 01:21:06,053
Speaker 2: are true? So, if you're overweight and someone says it,

1794
01:21:06,853 --> 01:21:09,173
Speaker 2: then how can you offend it?

1795
01:21:09,213 --> 01:21:12,652
Speaker 4: If it's true? Right? And if it's not true, then

1796
01:21:12,732 --> 01:21:14,333
Speaker 4: it's stupid. So how can you be offended?

1797
01:21:14,412 --> 01:21:14,572
Speaker 11: Right?

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01:21:14,692 --> 01:21:14,852
Speaker 14: Yep?

1799
01:21:14,933 --> 01:21:17,772
Speaker 2: So can we go around in life expecting people not

1800
01:21:17,812 --> 01:21:19,773
Speaker 2: to say things to us that are true?

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01:21:19,532 --> 01:21:24,253
Speaker 3: Eighty is the number to call Nicole? How are you

1802
01:21:24,333 --> 01:21:24,972
Speaker 3: this afternoon?

1803
01:21:26,013 --> 01:21:26,173
Speaker 12: Yes?

1804
01:21:26,253 --> 01:21:27,093
Speaker 4: Hello, Hi guys?

1805
01:21:27,133 --> 01:21:27,852
Speaker 20: Tell you guys?

1806
01:21:27,973 --> 01:21:30,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. And what's your view about the complaints

1807
01:21:30,173 --> 01:21:31,572
Speaker 3: and fat shaming in general?

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01:21:33,213 --> 01:21:36,333
Speaker 20: Well, I first heard this ad on the radio. It

1809
01:21:36,372 --> 01:21:38,652
Speaker 20: was a few months ago, and I was hoping that

1810
01:21:38,973 --> 01:21:41,173
Speaker 20: it would finally make it to the TV because I

1811
01:21:41,213 --> 01:21:46,892
Speaker 20: absolutely loved it. And yeah, I mean she's in a suit,

1812
01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:51,093
Speaker 20: She's in a sumo suit, so there is you know,

1813
01:21:52,093 --> 01:21:53,573
Speaker 20: bringing humor definitely.

1814
01:21:53,253 --> 01:21:53,652
Speaker 4: To the ad.

1815
01:21:54,572 --> 01:21:59,333
Speaker 20: And yeah, there's also a part in the in the

1816
01:21:59,372 --> 01:22:02,572
Speaker 20: ads that talks about the cops are after you, and

1817
01:22:02,612 --> 01:22:03,532
Speaker 20: it doesn't ever warrant.

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01:22:03,772 --> 01:22:06,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cops are looking at the cops are looking

1819
01:22:06,692 --> 01:22:08,772
Speaker 2: out for it. There's actually been a whole the texts

1820
01:22:08,772 --> 01:22:12,213
Speaker 2: that have come through Nicole complaining about that line and

1821
01:22:12,253 --> 01:22:16,013
Speaker 2: saying that's the real problem because it is normalizing car theft,

1822
01:22:16,213 --> 01:22:18,492
Speaker 2: so people will find their thing to be offended by.

1823
01:22:18,772 --> 01:22:20,652
Speaker 2: And there's there's a lot of content of that ad,

1824
01:22:20,772 --> 01:22:22,412
Speaker 2: so you know, there's a lot of things that people

1825
01:22:22,412 --> 01:22:24,772
Speaker 2: could potentially have a problem with one.

1826
01:22:25,492 --> 01:22:27,932
Speaker 20: But you know, I think it's like connact and it's

1827
01:22:27,933 --> 01:22:30,812
Speaker 20: a real pee wee jingle and you know, it's like

1828
01:22:30,893 --> 01:22:36,492
Speaker 20: the as a Party of Mary Clubs, a four year song,

1829
01:22:36,612 --> 01:22:38,892
Speaker 20: Like it's awesome. I think it should win the Ad

1830
01:22:38,893 --> 01:22:39,333
Speaker 20: of the year.

1831
01:22:39,812 --> 01:22:42,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's been. It's been surely one of the

1832
01:22:42,452 --> 01:22:46,892
Speaker 2: most successful ads in recent times. Definitely, because it's catchy,

1833
01:22:46,973 --> 01:22:50,253
Speaker 2: it gets into your head, makes people are talking about it.

1834
01:22:50,372 --> 01:22:52,053
Speaker 2: We've just been talking about on the radio for half

1835
01:22:52,053 --> 01:22:54,812
Speaker 2: an hour and they're not paying for this, so it's

1836
01:22:54,893 --> 01:22:55,933
Speaker 2: definitely successful.

1837
01:22:56,412 --> 01:22:58,412
Speaker 3: Are we just losing our sense of humor a little bit?

1838
01:22:58,452 --> 01:22:59,173
Speaker 3: Do you think, Nicole?

1839
01:23:00,692 --> 01:23:01,532
Speaker 2: Oh?

1840
01:23:01,652 --> 01:23:03,533
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, looks people are going to have opinions

1841
01:23:03,572 --> 01:23:07,532
Speaker 20: on a whole lot of things. But me personally, it's brilliant,

1842
01:23:08,412 --> 01:23:11,812
Speaker 20: really good ad and up to the people that figured

1843
01:23:11,853 --> 01:23:14,213
Speaker 20: it all out and put it all together and tended

1844
01:23:14,333 --> 01:23:15,213
Speaker 20: us such a great job.

1845
01:23:16,213 --> 01:23:18,293
Speaker 2: Yeah on them, Well, thank you so much for you call.

1846
01:23:18,333 --> 01:23:20,452
Speaker 2: But Tyler, you say, are we losing our sense of humour?

1847
01:23:20,492 --> 01:23:23,293
Speaker 2: But the ASA ruled that that was fine?

1848
01:23:23,412 --> 01:23:23,812
Speaker 14: What was there?

1849
01:23:23,933 --> 01:23:25,333
Speaker 4: You've got their ruling on in front of you. What

1850
01:23:25,333 --> 01:23:26,333
Speaker 4: do they say about that line?

1851
01:23:26,612 --> 01:23:30,093
Speaker 3: Their exact quote was, does not reach the threshold to

1852
01:23:30,133 --> 01:23:33,412
Speaker 3: breach the relevant Advertising Standards Authority codes, and therefore we

1853
01:23:33,492 --> 01:23:36,892
Speaker 3: will not take any further action. So yeah, maybe they

1854
01:23:36,893 --> 01:23:37,852
Speaker 3: do have a sense of humor.

1855
01:23:38,053 --> 01:23:41,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, you're ugly like a dog's ass. Don't be

1856
01:23:41,412 --> 01:23:44,692
Speaker 2: offended though, it's just true facts. Cheers Sean. Yeah, well

1857
01:23:45,933 --> 01:23:48,932
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say if I'm offended by that. No, No, yeah,

1858
01:23:48,973 --> 01:23:51,932
Speaker 2: exactly not there we go, not offended at all.

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01:23:52,133 --> 01:23:54,372
Speaker 3: Oh Light, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1860
01:23:54,412 --> 01:23:55,932
Speaker 3: to call. There's a heck of a lot of ticks

1861
01:23:55,973 --> 01:23:59,133
Speaker 3: that have just come through so fat shaming. Do we

1862
01:23:59,173 --> 01:24:00,732
Speaker 3: take it a little bit too far that that is

1863
01:24:00,772 --> 01:24:03,932
Speaker 3: somehow taboo that you cannot talk about people's weight. But

1864
01:24:03,973 --> 01:24:06,812
Speaker 3: it seems to be okay to hassle people who are tall,

1865
01:24:07,013 --> 01:24:09,333
Speaker 3: hassele people that are skinny. And this is in a jovial,

1866
01:24:09,372 --> 01:24:11,652
Speaker 3: banterish way, but love to you your thoughts on O e

1867
01:24:11,652 --> 01:24:12,772
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1868
01:24:13,093 --> 01:24:15,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've got a text that's just come through

1869
01:24:15,492 --> 01:24:18,053
Speaker 2: here that will read out someone that works in a

1870
01:24:18,093 --> 01:24:21,052
Speaker 2: weight loss clinic that is not happy.

1871
01:24:21,412 --> 01:24:26,612
Speaker 3: Twelve past three. It is a quarter past three, and

1872
01:24:26,612 --> 01:24:28,652
Speaker 3: we're talking about fat shaming. A couple of complaints to

1873
01:24:28,692 --> 01:24:31,452
Speaker 3: the ASA about the Tina fum Turner's car ad. The

1874
01:24:31,492 --> 01:24:33,812
Speaker 3: line that they got so offended by is you got

1875
01:24:33,812 --> 01:24:37,772
Speaker 3: so fat the seats don't fit. The ASA thankfully said,

1876
01:24:37,772 --> 01:24:39,932
Speaker 3: nothing to see here, But we're talking about fat shaming

1877
01:24:40,293 --> 01:24:44,892
Speaker 3: in general. Wyatt's taboo when other you know, other banter

1878
01:24:45,013 --> 01:24:47,532
Speaker 3: towards the way people look seem to be okay.

1879
01:24:47,732 --> 01:24:49,932
Speaker 2: But is that I mean, that's not even fat shaming though,

1880
01:24:50,213 --> 01:24:52,612
Speaker 2: it's just saying a fact, right if you got so fat,

1881
01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:56,333
Speaker 2: And obviously in the ads, she's wearing a summu inflatable suit,

1882
01:24:56,452 --> 01:25:00,253
Speaker 2: so that's not But the thing is, you know, if

1883
01:25:00,293 --> 01:25:02,452
Speaker 2: you have got so fat that you can't fit in

1884
01:25:02,452 --> 01:25:04,293
Speaker 2: a car seat, then isn't that just fat?

1885
01:25:04,732 --> 01:25:05,293
Speaker 4: It's just fact.

1886
01:25:05,492 --> 01:25:07,652
Speaker 2: How can you be offended by something that is true?

1887
01:25:07,772 --> 01:25:10,293
Speaker 2: This textas says fat people are people. You are such

1888
01:25:10,412 --> 01:25:12,053
Speaker 2: a holes. I've censored that.

1889
01:25:12,253 --> 01:25:14,692
Speaker 4: Oh that wasn't what this ptext has said.

1890
01:25:14,692 --> 01:25:16,412
Speaker 2: They didn't say a holes. I have sensed that you

1891
01:25:16,452 --> 01:25:19,293
Speaker 2: are such a holes. It's not funny. It's not a choice.

1892
01:25:19,412 --> 01:25:21,892
Speaker 2: People are o beaste because of health issues. If you

1893
01:25:21,933 --> 01:25:25,212
Speaker 2: are fat, it's not my fault. That's a telling sentence.

1894
01:25:25,372 --> 01:25:26,732
Speaker 2: If you are fat, it's not my fault.

1895
01:25:28,293 --> 01:25:31,372
Speaker 4: It's like a Freudian slip. But you know, bless you,

1896
01:25:31,372 --> 01:25:33,852
Speaker 4: you be you, you do you. But you guys laugh

1897
01:25:33,893 --> 01:25:38,372
Speaker 4: about it? What I what I said? You were an idiot? Oh?

1898
01:25:38,893 --> 01:25:40,652
Speaker 4: I think they meant to say if I said you

1899
01:25:40,652 --> 01:25:43,572
Speaker 4: were an idiot, would you like that? No? So don't

1900
01:25:43,612 --> 01:25:45,932
Speaker 4: call me fat? You are idiot?

1901
01:25:46,492 --> 01:25:46,612
Speaker 19: Now?

1902
01:25:46,732 --> 01:25:48,133
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.

1903
01:25:48,173 --> 01:25:49,173
Speaker 4: But I didn't call you fat.

1904
01:25:49,213 --> 01:25:51,492
Speaker 2: I don't even know anything about you apart from these

1905
01:25:52,572 --> 01:25:54,172
Speaker 2: forty odd words you've said through.

1906
01:25:53,973 --> 01:25:55,932
Speaker 3: And sometimes I am an idiot. I didn't take offense

1907
01:25:55,973 --> 01:25:56,892
Speaker 3: by It's it's reality.

1908
01:25:57,013 --> 01:25:59,333
Speaker 2: Sometimes, yes, sometimes you're an idiot. I'd like to see

1909
01:25:59,372 --> 01:26:00,333
Speaker 2: you not be an idiot once.

1910
01:26:00,652 --> 01:26:03,333
Speaker 3: Now this also reminded me of a great scene in

1911
01:26:03,492 --> 01:26:06,133
Speaker 3: The Simpsons. Here is a little bit of that.

1912
01:26:06,893 --> 01:26:10,213
Speaker 15: Everyone needs to dry a vehicle, even the very tall

1913
01:26:10,973 --> 01:26:14,293
Speaker 15: This was the largest auto that I could afford. I

1914
01:26:14,612 --> 01:26:17,132
Speaker 15: therefore we made the subject of fun.

1915
01:26:17,452 --> 01:26:18,213
Speaker 20: I guess, So.

1916
01:26:20,532 --> 01:26:23,933
Speaker 15: Would you like it if I laughed at your misfortune?

1917
01:26:24,612 --> 01:26:25,532
Speaker 12: Huh?

1918
01:26:25,652 --> 01:26:27,333
Speaker 5: Maybe we should find out.

1919
01:26:29,053 --> 01:26:30,732
Speaker 4: No march.

1920
01:26:33,973 --> 01:26:38,532
Speaker 26: Hey, everybody, look at this. It's that boy who laughs

1921
01:26:38,612 --> 01:26:45,212
Speaker 26: at everyone. Let's laugh at him. Wave to the people

1922
01:26:46,973 --> 01:26:54,772
Speaker 26: who them.

1923
01:26:55,532 --> 01:26:58,172
Speaker 3: Classic Simpsons, but very very funny.

1924
01:26:59,333 --> 01:27:01,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean that's that's the other side of it. Say,

1925
01:27:01,812 --> 01:27:03,732
Speaker 2: there are things that are true and people put you

1926
01:27:03,772 --> 01:27:05,372
Speaker 2: can't speak to live in a world where people aren't

1927
01:27:05,532 --> 01:27:07,652
Speaker 2: aren't going to put point out things that are true. Right,

1928
01:27:08,013 --> 01:27:10,173
Speaker 2: but if you're if you're going around putting out other

1929
01:27:10,213 --> 01:27:12,012
Speaker 2: people's foibles, you better be able.

1930
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Speaker 4: To take it back yourself.

1931
01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:13,452
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1932
01:27:13,452 --> 01:27:16,253
Speaker 4: If you if you only laugh at other people, then

1933
01:27:17,213 --> 01:27:19,372
Speaker 4: you better be able to deal with them laughing at you.

1934
01:27:19,853 --> 01:27:19,933
Speaker 11: Do.

1935
01:27:19,973 --> 01:27:22,293
Speaker 2: I read this sticks out. I work for a weight clinic.

1936
01:27:22,333 --> 01:27:24,452
Speaker 2: Many of these people have low confidence in themselves. I

1937
01:27:24,452 --> 01:27:28,653
Speaker 2: will always defend these wonderful people. They don't need unkind comments.

1938
01:27:29,093 --> 01:27:32,013
Speaker 2: Yeah fair enough, yeah, yeah, But I would say that

1939
01:27:32,213 --> 01:27:35,133
Speaker 2: wasn't really unkind comments in that ad. It's just it's

1940
01:27:35,213 --> 01:27:37,412
Speaker 2: just just an observation, and it's you know, if you

1941
01:27:37,452 --> 01:27:39,173
Speaker 2: have got two fat foot in your car seat, and

1942
01:27:39,372 --> 01:27:40,932
Speaker 2: that's just the truth, isn't it exactly?

1943
01:27:40,933 --> 01:27:43,812
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Greg.

1944
01:27:44,372 --> 01:27:45,173
Speaker 3: What's your take on this?

1945
01:27:46,492 --> 01:27:48,692
Speaker 30: You're only upsetting the overseens that of I think this

1946
01:27:48,772 --> 01:27:49,973
Speaker 30: afternoon fellows.

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01:27:50,612 --> 01:27:51,253
Speaker 4: We do that a bit.

1948
01:27:51,333 --> 01:27:51,933
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1949
01:27:51,572 --> 01:27:56,452
Speaker 30: The actor in that air got in a sumo suit, right, Okay, Well,

1950
01:27:56,492 --> 01:28:00,053
Speaker 30: and the Japanese culcious snow is revered and worshiped for

1951
01:28:00,093 --> 01:28:02,892
Speaker 30: a start, if you want to put that spin on it. Yeah,

1952
01:28:03,013 --> 01:28:09,572
Speaker 30: they revere and worship the sum But just as on

1953
01:28:09,652 --> 01:28:15,333
Speaker 30: the side, if you think about the likes of Marie

1954
01:28:15,372 --> 01:28:19,732
Speaker 30: and PACIFICA health advocates with you know, obese people and

1955
01:28:19,772 --> 01:28:22,572
Speaker 30: the diabetes and how they're more susceptible to that sort

1956
01:28:22,572 --> 01:28:25,173
Speaker 30: of thing than Paqi harp to teach you, which is

1957
01:28:25,213 --> 01:28:28,053
Speaker 30: probably right. The you know, the the age span and

1958
01:28:28,093 --> 01:28:30,093
Speaker 30: all that sort of things that a little different. I

1959
01:28:30,093 --> 01:28:32,812
Speaker 30: don't disagree with that, But now I have to think

1960
01:28:32,853 --> 01:28:35,812
Speaker 30: about the ASP adverts. What do you see there?

1961
01:28:37,173 --> 01:28:38,892
Speaker 3: I watch too much linear TV.

1962
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Speaker 4: What one's well, I mean, I assume you're talking about

1963
01:28:41,933 --> 01:28:44,852
Speaker 4: the couple, the young couple that are buying a house,

1964
01:28:44,893 --> 01:28:48,692
Speaker 4: and the the man is quite a large gentleman and

1965
01:28:48,772 --> 01:28:51,053
Speaker 4: the woman is quite a small lady.

1966
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Speaker 30: Okay, well you go. I mean, he is a very

1967
01:28:55,213 --> 01:28:59,532
Speaker 30: large obefe man. But there is the a SB saying, hey,

1968
01:28:59,572 --> 01:29:02,492
Speaker 30: this is fine, this is okay, nothing wrong here. But

1969
01:29:02,532 --> 01:29:04,652
Speaker 30: then you go to the flip side of those who

1970
01:29:04,732 --> 01:29:09,932
Speaker 30: are saying, you know, Marian pacifica more issues will obesently

1971
01:29:10,013 --> 01:29:12,692
Speaker 30: in all that sort of stuff. And I guess they

1972
01:29:12,772 --> 01:29:15,572
Speaker 30: potentially do. It's just the way that the genetically get it.

1973
01:29:15,853 --> 01:29:17,972
Speaker 30: But do you not see some hypocrisy there?

1974
01:29:18,452 --> 01:29:21,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it a sort of a tough line

1975
01:29:21,173 --> 01:29:23,852
Speaker 2: to run where if you are obese, then you are

1976
01:29:23,933 --> 01:29:25,733
Speaker 2: ruled out from being on the television.

1977
01:29:25,772 --> 01:29:27,213
Speaker 16: Though I'm not.

1978
01:29:27,492 --> 01:29:29,852
Speaker 30: I'm not coming from that angle. I'm not complaining about it.

1979
01:29:29,893 --> 01:29:33,372
Speaker 30: I'm just saying there's a standard of a bank telling

1980
01:29:33,452 --> 01:29:36,732
Speaker 30: us that's fine, that individual's fine, are okay, But then

1981
01:29:37,253 --> 01:29:40,972
Speaker 30: you've got the actor himself as a huge obese gentleman,

1982
01:29:41,093 --> 01:29:43,372
Speaker 30: isn't it. We've probably got a lot of those factors

1983
01:29:43,372 --> 01:29:46,692
Speaker 30: going on in his life. So I just don't I

1984
01:29:46,772 --> 01:29:49,573
Speaker 30: just don't get the hypocrisy of some of the advertising.

1985
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Speaker 2: Mere yeah, well thank you's Greek. Maybe you could complain

1986
01:29:52,133 --> 01:29:52,652
Speaker 2: to the ASA.

1987
01:29:52,893 --> 01:29:55,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, but just from a health point of view when

1988
01:29:55,372 --> 01:29:58,253
Speaker 3: I and I'm still a lot larger than I should be,

1989
01:29:58,372 --> 01:30:00,772
Speaker 3: and certainly i've been bigger than what I am right now.

1990
01:30:01,053 --> 01:30:05,173
Speaker 3: When people I love came to me and said your

1991
01:30:05,173 --> 01:30:07,093
Speaker 3: weight is a problem. In fact, they are a bit

1992
01:30:07,093 --> 01:30:08,732
Speaker 3: harsher than that, and said you're a f that buggy.

1993
01:30:08,772 --> 01:30:11,133
Speaker 3: You need to do something about it. I did not

1994
01:30:11,173 --> 01:30:14,012
Speaker 3: get offended by that. I actually took that and say, hey,

1995
01:30:14,053 --> 01:30:15,612
Speaker 3: I need to get healthy because this is not good

1996
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Speaker 3: for me.

1997
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean what if you weren't capable of that, right, Yeah?

1998
01:30:21,253 --> 01:30:22,692
Speaker 3: And that's yeah, And a lot of people would be

1999
01:30:22,692 --> 01:30:25,692
Speaker 3: in that situation and that's different. But for me, I could,

2000
01:30:25,812 --> 01:30:28,372
Speaker 3: I could do something about it to get to get healthier.

2001
01:30:28,372 --> 01:30:30,093
Speaker 3: But it came from when people said that to me.

2002
01:30:30,293 --> 01:30:32,452
Speaker 3: That came from a place of love, is what I'm saying,

2003
01:30:32,492 --> 01:30:35,732
Speaker 3: because they were concerned about my health. But can you

2004
01:30:35,772 --> 01:30:37,532
Speaker 3: get your views on this? So eight hundred eighty ten

2005
01:30:37,572 --> 01:30:39,812
Speaker 3: eighty we'll better play some messages. But back very shortly.

2006
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Speaker 3: It is twenty one past three.

2007
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Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

2008
01:30:49,732 --> 01:30:52,532
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZB, Very.

2009
01:30:52,372 --> 01:30:55,013
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. We're talking about the complaints to

2010
01:30:55,293 --> 01:30:58,932
Speaker 3: the Tina from Turner's ad about fat shaming. She jumps

2011
01:30:58,933 --> 01:31:01,452
Speaker 3: into a sumo suit and the line in the air

2012
01:31:01,612 --> 01:31:03,572
Speaker 3: is you got so fat the seats don't fit. Couple

2013
01:31:03,572 --> 01:31:06,133
Speaker 3: of a handful of people complained to the ASA that

2014
01:31:06,173 --> 01:31:08,253
Speaker 3: the ASAC said nothing to see here.

2015
01:31:08,973 --> 01:31:11,492
Speaker 2: Is there a difference between body shaming for things like

2016
01:31:11,572 --> 01:31:15,333
Speaker 2: big nose, buck teeth, big ears versus fat shaming, being dirty,

2017
01:31:15,372 --> 01:31:16,493
Speaker 2: having yellow teeth.

2018
01:31:16,333 --> 01:31:20,133
Speaker 4: Coffee teeth tell you a lot of people get Yeah.

2019
01:31:20,372 --> 01:31:22,372
Speaker 2: I mean if someone's got yellow teeth from smoking and

2020
01:31:22,412 --> 01:31:24,213
Speaker 2: you know, remember people you just to have those yellow

2021
01:31:24,213 --> 01:31:28,053
Speaker 2: fingers from smoking. I mean, if you're shaming someone for that,

2022
01:31:28,093 --> 01:31:31,532
Speaker 2: you might be helping them out. Marty, welcome to the show.

2023
01:31:31,973 --> 01:31:32,892
Speaker 2: You're a big person.

2024
01:31:34,293 --> 01:31:36,812
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I'm a big guy. You know, I'm not little.

2025
01:31:38,532 --> 01:31:38,772
Speaker 32: Yeah.

2026
01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:41,173
Speaker 11: Now I've lost weight heaps of times, like you know,

2027
01:31:41,213 --> 01:31:46,532
Speaker 11: and put it back on. Yeah, I think a lot

2028
01:31:46,532 --> 01:31:48,213
Speaker 11: of it. Yeah, there might be some health issues and

2029
01:31:48,213 --> 01:31:51,053
Speaker 11: stuff that stop people from doing something. But I think

2030
01:31:51,093 --> 01:31:52,732
Speaker 11: a lot of it's just the food and stuff, you know.

2031
01:31:54,333 --> 01:31:58,213
Speaker 11: I think it's the choice of food you're smashing. Yeah, yeah,

2032
01:31:58,293 --> 01:32:00,333
Speaker 11: you can't complain that you're big and then go home

2033
01:32:00,372 --> 01:32:01,052
Speaker 11: and have six.

2034
01:32:03,412 --> 01:32:03,692
Speaker 4: Marty?

2035
01:32:03,772 --> 01:32:07,452
Speaker 2: Do you do people comment on your weight? And when

2036
01:32:07,492 --> 01:32:09,092
Speaker 2: they do, how does that make you feel?

2037
01:32:10,053 --> 01:32:10,213
Speaker 22: Well?

2038
01:32:10,532 --> 01:32:12,732
Speaker 11: Sometimes? You know, like, but it is what it is,

2039
01:32:12,772 --> 01:32:15,692
Speaker 11: you know, it's not it's not called self esteem because

2040
01:32:16,412 --> 01:32:19,973
Speaker 11: somebody else is in control of it, you know, like

2041
01:32:20,133 --> 01:32:23,732
Speaker 11: you think about yourself however you do. I think it's

2042
01:32:23,732 --> 01:32:25,093
Speaker 11: a I think it's a good sign thing.

2043
01:32:25,532 --> 01:32:25,852
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2044
01:32:25,933 --> 01:32:27,532
Speaker 2: And and so you don't, you don't you don't have

2045
01:32:27,532 --> 01:32:29,412
Speaker 2: a problem at all with the the the ad.

2046
01:32:30,692 --> 01:32:33,452
Speaker 11: No, no, it's all good man, Like you know, I

2047
01:32:33,492 --> 01:32:36,532
Speaker 11: mean the person clearly isn't that big, you know. And

2048
01:32:36,572 --> 01:32:38,932
Speaker 11: if she's saying, you know, if you got too big

2049
01:32:38,973 --> 01:32:41,732
Speaker 11: to fit in the card ship, how do you get

2050
01:32:41,732 --> 01:32:42,093
Speaker 11: that big?

2051
01:32:43,532 --> 01:32:44,173
Speaker 4: It's quite big?

2052
01:32:44,492 --> 01:32:44,852
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2053
01:32:45,213 --> 01:32:46,892
Speaker 4: Have you have you ever got so big that you

2054
01:32:46,973 --> 01:32:48,852
Speaker 4: haven't been able to fit in the car seat? Maney?

2055
01:32:49,732 --> 01:32:49,972
Speaker 6: No?

2056
01:32:49,973 --> 01:32:51,773
Speaker 11: No way?

2057
01:32:52,372 --> 01:32:54,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but got on you with that philosophy. Then

2058
01:32:54,692 --> 01:32:56,852
Speaker 3: you're quite right, you know. Self esteem it's it's what

2059
01:32:56,893 --> 01:32:59,253
Speaker 3: you think about yourself that matters, and if you know,

2060
01:32:59,412 --> 01:33:02,772
Speaker 3: it's easy to easier said than done. But if you outside,

2061
01:33:02,772 --> 01:33:05,132
Speaker 3: opinions are just external and what you think about yourself

2062
01:33:05,173 --> 01:33:07,732
Speaker 3: is what matters. But when you did lose weight, Mardy,

2063
01:33:08,612 --> 01:33:12,293
Speaker 3: was that something that was a bit of a mission

2064
01:33:12,492 --> 01:33:14,772
Speaker 3: at that time to try and drop that weight or.

2065
01:33:16,213 --> 01:33:21,772
Speaker 11: It was more consistency man like? Yeah, like, being kind

2066
01:33:21,772 --> 01:33:25,732
Speaker 11: of strict on yourself can be hard, and which is

2067
01:33:25,772 --> 01:33:28,772
Speaker 11: the reason I'll put it back on you know. Yeah,

2068
01:33:28,812 --> 01:33:31,293
Speaker 11: I was inconsistent. I was consistent for a month or two,

2069
01:33:31,772 --> 01:33:36,093
Speaker 11: seeing the drop, felt the health benefits, and yeah, just

2070
01:33:36,293 --> 01:33:37,733
Speaker 11: got lazy again, I guess.

2071
01:33:38,213 --> 01:33:39,812
Speaker 2: Well, thanks so much for you call, Marty. I really

2072
01:33:39,853 --> 01:33:42,412
Speaker 2: appreciate your insight into this. There is a differences of

2073
01:33:42,492 --> 01:33:45,532
Speaker 2: texting between fan friends, people who care for you saying

2074
01:33:45,612 --> 01:33:49,692
Speaker 2: you're a bit tubs and random people, random people randomly

2075
01:33:50,213 --> 01:33:50,812
Speaker 2: commenting on it.

2076
01:33:50,893 --> 01:33:51,093
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2077
01:33:51,133 --> 01:33:53,013
Speaker 4: Sorry, this text doesn't quite make sense, but I get

2078
01:33:53,053 --> 01:33:53,572
Speaker 4: what they're saying.

2079
01:33:54,213 --> 01:33:57,813
Speaker 2: Get in your lane, Matt, No, Yeah, I mean absolutely.

2080
01:33:57,812 --> 01:33:59,053
Speaker 2: I mean, if someone's.

2081
01:33:58,732 --> 01:34:01,812
Speaker 4: Overweight and you're worried about their health and you and

2082
01:34:01,893 --> 01:34:03,973
Speaker 4: you want to help them, a better way to approach it,

2083
01:34:03,973 --> 01:34:06,492
Speaker 4: obviously would be to go up and say, hey, I'm

2084
01:34:06,492 --> 01:34:08,293
Speaker 4: worried about your health, and you know, is there anything

2085
01:34:08,412 --> 01:34:09,892
Speaker 4: I can do to help out? And I think that

2086
01:34:09,893 --> 01:34:12,293
Speaker 4: that you probably need to improve your diet would be

2087
01:34:12,412 --> 01:34:14,892
Speaker 4: better than yelling chow down wide load at them or something.

2088
01:34:15,053 --> 01:34:16,572
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah.

2089
01:34:16,412 --> 01:34:18,492
Speaker 3: Maybe you worked a little bit for me when I

2090
01:34:18,532 --> 01:34:20,572
Speaker 3: was chunky and still am a little bit chunky. This

2091
01:34:20,692 --> 01:34:23,293
Speaker 3: takes a seat if the person can't fix the thing

2092
01:34:23,372 --> 01:34:26,253
Speaker 3: within the next few minutes or fix it easily, I

2093
01:34:26,253 --> 01:34:28,372
Speaker 3: don't think it's something we should talk to people about.

2094
01:34:28,893 --> 01:34:30,612
Speaker 3: It is just cruel. It's like saying that I am

2095
01:34:30,652 --> 01:34:32,772
Speaker 3: awful because I am so short. I'm just suret I

2096
01:34:32,812 --> 01:34:35,733
Speaker 3: can't change it. In a few texts to that regard.

2097
01:34:35,732 --> 01:34:37,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess I push back that and say

2098
01:34:37,732 --> 01:34:40,293
Speaker 2: if yeah, absolutely those people that say that kind of

2099
01:34:40,293 --> 01:34:42,932
Speaker 2: stuff that doesn't make them good people. But you know,

2100
01:34:43,412 --> 01:34:48,412
Speaker 2: in life, you can't expect people not to say things

2101
01:34:48,452 --> 01:34:52,452
Speaker 2: that are real. And you know, as someone texted through

2102
01:34:53,053 --> 01:34:55,412
Speaker 2: to overweight, people not realize that everyone can see that

2103
01:34:55,412 --> 01:34:58,052
Speaker 2: they're overright. So even if they're not saying it, they're

2104
01:34:58,093 --> 01:34:58,492
Speaker 2: thinking it.

2105
01:34:59,013 --> 01:35:01,532
Speaker 4: That's quite I don't know about that pole walk around

2106
01:35:01,532 --> 01:35:03,892
Speaker 4: feeling like they're constantly being judged. It's not necessarily great

2107
01:35:03,933 --> 01:35:04,293
Speaker 4: for either.

2108
01:35:04,492 --> 01:35:08,932
Speaker 3: No, Tim, you're yeah.

2109
01:35:09,093 --> 01:35:11,173
Speaker 11: Mate, how's it going?

2110
01:35:11,372 --> 01:35:11,772
Speaker 4: Very good?

2111
01:35:14,053 --> 01:35:16,612
Speaker 21: I'm offended by those that are offended. So can they

2112
01:35:16,612 --> 01:35:22,013
Speaker 21: stop it? Because people just get offended about everything. It's

2113
01:35:22,053 --> 01:35:23,933
Speaker 21: just getting ridiculous. Let's have a bit of fun and

2114
01:35:24,013 --> 01:35:26,612
Speaker 21: enjoy life and don't take ourselves so seriously.

2115
01:35:26,853 --> 01:35:27,652
Speaker 4: Good on your Tim.

2116
01:35:27,772 --> 01:35:29,492
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people, judging by the text

2117
01:35:29,572 --> 01:35:32,333
Speaker 2: machine would be agree with you one hundred percent. Yeah,

2118
01:35:32,333 --> 01:35:34,372
Speaker 2: But and I would push back and say that that

2119
01:35:34,372 --> 01:35:36,852
Speaker 2: that and say that that air isn't even fat shaming.

2120
01:35:36,893 --> 01:35:39,652
Speaker 2: It's just saying that some people, you know, you might

2121
01:35:39,692 --> 01:35:41,173
Speaker 2: get so fat you can't fit in the cassie.

2122
01:35:41,692 --> 01:35:43,692
Speaker 3: Just a reality sometimes.

2123
01:35:44,133 --> 01:35:45,253
Speaker 4: Grant, welcome to the show.

2124
01:35:46,652 --> 01:35:48,652
Speaker 3: Good, Let you do it very good?

2125
01:35:51,053 --> 01:35:51,253
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2126
01:35:51,293 --> 01:35:54,172
Speaker 24: Look, I think it's kind of funny people don't understand

2127
01:35:54,173 --> 01:35:58,452
Speaker 24: the difference between comedy and bullying, because I mean, you

2128
01:35:58,772 --> 01:35:59,532
Speaker 24: look at that air.

2129
01:35:59,532 --> 01:36:01,052
Speaker 14: There's just there's just playing comedy.

2130
01:36:01,213 --> 01:36:02,253
Speaker 32: That's a good laugh.

2131
01:36:02,333 --> 01:36:06,053
Speaker 24: I'm on a tubby lad, you know, and if someone

2132
01:36:06,093 --> 01:36:08,612
Speaker 24: that works called me fat for you, I'm a bit

2133
01:36:08,652 --> 01:36:12,412
Speaker 24: of a beat for that. But you're talking about someone

2134
01:36:12,492 --> 01:36:20,732
Speaker 24: just just singing a song and yeah, exactly, I think

2135
01:36:20,772 --> 01:36:22,173
Speaker 24: people need to just chill out of that.

2136
01:36:22,772 --> 01:36:24,892
Speaker 4: Yeah, good on you, Grant. Yeah, and thank you so

2137
01:36:25,013 --> 01:36:27,093
Speaker 4: much for your call. Boy.

2138
01:36:27,133 --> 01:36:29,452
Speaker 2: There's so much communication coming in on this, but we're

2139
01:36:29,572 --> 01:36:31,692
Speaker 2: running out of time to deal with it.

2140
01:36:31,772 --> 01:36:34,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much to everybody who called antext

2141
01:36:34,973 --> 01:36:38,612
Speaker 3: on that great discussion. But the headlines are coming up

2142
01:36:38,652 --> 01:36:42,012
Speaker 3: and then New Zealander of the Week it is bang

2143
01:36:42,053 --> 01:36:42,892
Speaker 3: on up us three.

2144
01:36:43,173 --> 01:36:44,812
Speaker 4: Jeez, you can't even hardly find that cheer.

2145
01:36:44,853 --> 01:36:53,652
Speaker 16: Tyler talks the headlines with Blue Bubble Taxis, it's no

2146
01:36:53,772 --> 01:36:57,053
Speaker 16: trouble with a blue bubble. David Seymour is calling out

2147
01:36:57,053 --> 01:37:00,053
Speaker 16: an activist and the son of a departy Mardi MP

2148
01:37:00,293 --> 01:37:01,812
Speaker 16: for challenging him to a fight.

2149
01:37:02,372 --> 01:37:03,692
Speaker 4: It'll Coupa King, says.

2150
01:37:03,732 --> 01:37:06,293
Speaker 16: The act leader called out his mum and if you

2151
01:37:06,452 --> 01:37:09,572
Speaker 16: talk smack about someone's mum, you are bound to get

2152
01:37:09,612 --> 01:37:12,972
Speaker 16: slapped up. One of the two men charged with double

2153
01:37:13,053 --> 01:37:16,052
Speaker 16: murder following the high profile deaths of an Auckland couple

2154
01:37:16,333 --> 01:37:19,052
Speaker 16: has been sentenced to at least nineteen years in prison.

2155
01:37:19,492 --> 01:37:22,293
Speaker 16: Shuman Poon admitted to killing the couple in Ellesley in

2156
01:37:22,333 --> 01:37:25,732
Speaker 16: twenty twenty three, just hours before his trial was due

2157
01:37:25,732 --> 01:37:29,213
Speaker 16: to start late last month. Water has been cut to

2158
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Speaker 16: some properties in Dargaville and pressures being reduced in others

2159
01:37:33,053 --> 01:37:38,092
Speaker 16: as reservoir levels drop dangerously low. Auckland War Memorial Museum

2160
01:37:38,133 --> 01:37:41,412
Speaker 16: will partially reopen on Tuesday next week after three weeks

2161
01:37:41,412 --> 01:37:45,692
Speaker 16: of closure due to asbestos. Wet weather and blustery winds

2162
01:37:45,692 --> 01:37:48,492
Speaker 16: are expected to continue for parts of the country. Meat

2163
01:37:48,492 --> 01:37:51,452
Speaker 16: Service has warnings and watches in place for the Chatham Islands,

2164
01:37:51,452 --> 01:37:54,253
Speaker 16: the Canterbury high Country, the bottom of the country and

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Speaker 16: the North Islands East Coast, and police are starting their

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Speaker 16: long weekend road toll from four today two Cheap Cars.

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Speaker 16: Profit drops forty seven percent amid economic downturn. You can

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Speaker 16: see more at Ends and Herald Premium. Now back to

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Speaker 16: Mattieth and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Every Friday on matt and Tyler afternoons on z B

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Speaker 2: we honor a newsmaker who has had an outsized effect

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01:38:15,572 --> 01:38:18,093
Speaker 2: on our great and beautiful nation over the previous seven days.

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Speaker 2: As always, there will be three nominees but only one winner.

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Speaker 2: And remember, like the Time magazine Person of the Year,

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand of the Week as an always an

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Speaker 2: agent of good, So without further ado. The nominees for

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Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the Week AH

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Speaker 2: Nominee one also gets the Finally Freed from the shackles

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Speaker 2: of regulatory Tyranny Award. The brightness of their lights have

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01:38:40,053 --> 01:38:43,172
Speaker 2: been brutally controlled since the eighties, as has the position

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Speaker 2: of their seats and even the very snacks they serve

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01:38:46,053 --> 01:38:49,013
Speaker 2: to their shaggy customers. What's worse, for decades they have

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Speaker 2: been forced to cruelly discriminate against our furry friends. But

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Speaker 2: this week they were freed. So celebrate with a glass

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Speaker 2: of wine, a shampoo and a tight fade. Free at last, Free,

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01:38:59,692 --> 01:39:02,692
Speaker 2: at last, Free, at last New Zealand's hairdresses. You can

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Speaker 2: finally be you and for that you have been nominated

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01:39:05,412 --> 01:39:09,093
Speaker 2: for New Zealander of the Week. Who R nomine two

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Speaker 2: also gets the Highlighting a Serious Problem with your Craziness Award.

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01:39:12,772 --> 01:39:15,053
Speaker 2: Last month, painters were called back to a job in

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01:39:15,133 --> 01:39:17,932
Speaker 2: christ Church. They had just finished Snag listed and ticked

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Speaker 2: every box, but what they found was two hundred post

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Speaker 2: notes per rooms stuck to invisible, non existent blemishes. There

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01:39:24,652 --> 01:39:26,972
Speaker 2: are people in this country that will never be happy

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01:39:27,013 --> 01:39:30,652
Speaker 2: and they need to be shamed crazy, punishing unnamed, overly

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01:39:30,772 --> 01:39:34,452
Speaker 2: fussy trady, punishing christ Church homeowner for bringing to light

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01:39:34,572 --> 01:39:37,652
Speaker 2: the very real issue of chronic dissatisfaction syndrome that is

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Speaker 2: sweeping this increasingly winging, ungrateful nation. You know who you are,

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Speaker 2: and you are nominated for the New Zealand of the Week.

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Speaker 4: CDs is real and needs to be called out wherever

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Speaker 4: it raises its ugly headed, definitely serious issue.

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Speaker 2: But there can be only one New Zealand of the Week, okay,

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Speaker 2: and the winner gets the holy crap one of them

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01:39:57,812 --> 01:40:00,492
Speaker 2: is only six years old award, while most Kiwi kids

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01:40:00,532 --> 01:40:02,892
Speaker 2: are sitting on their asses doom scrolling, playing video games,

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01:40:03,013 --> 01:40:04,532
Speaker 2: or pretending to be sick to get out of doing

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Speaker 2: anything other than shoving junk food into their lazy, fat faces.

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Speaker 2: These This one's just finished an epic two hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty day, three thousand kilometers north to south trek of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, over mountains and beaches and through streams, forests

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01:40:18,013 --> 01:40:19,773
Speaker 2: and towns, over hills.

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Speaker 4: Over plains, and in the marden in the rain.

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Speaker 2: The Williams family kept rolling along Topel Shermulker's dad Andrew

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Speaker 2: Mumcourtney Oliver thirteen, Summer eleven, Sky.

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Speaker 4: Nine and Elliot six for walking.

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Speaker 2: From the top to the bottom of our great and

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Speaker 2: beautiful land. You are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New

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Speaker 2: Zealanders of the Week.

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Speaker 4: Take it away, Howie.

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Speaker 2: Morrison, great New Zealanders, what shit well not to be

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Speaker 2: mistaken for the morokopper Man.

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Speaker 4: I repeat, Tom Phillips was not involved, No.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, give him a taste of kereweed. God bless and

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Speaker 2: god speed. The Williams family.

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Speaker 3: Matt Tyler very very well deserved this weekend as it

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Speaker 3: always is. And we got in touch with the Williams family,

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Speaker 3: Courtney the mum, and she said that they were moving

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Speaker 3: farm Today's slash house. Unfortunately they couldn't never chat with us,

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Speaker 3: but they said they are absolutely honored to be this

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Speaker 3: week's New Zealander off the week.

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Speaker 2: It is phenomenal that you've got a six year old

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Speaker 2: walking the far incredible phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah brave.

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Speaker 4: How hard is it to get a thirteen year old

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Speaker 4: as well? They've got a thirteen year old there to

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Speaker 4: do anything these days and.

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Speaker 2: There walked nearly three thousand kilometers, so pitty we couldn't

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Speaker 2: get them on for.

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Speaker 3: A chat yep, they are the best of us right.

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Speaker 3: Coming up very shortly, we're going to catch up with

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Speaker 3: Alex Powell, one of our sports reporters here at News

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Speaker 3: Talk z B. The Grand Prix IF one coming up

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Speaker 3: over the weekend. Exciting Liam Lawson back in the running,

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01:42:00,772 --> 01:42:05,173
Speaker 3: got his confidence back, maybe Groan Pyron, not Prie. So

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Speaker 3: we're going to catch up with Alex very shortly. It

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Speaker 3: is three two.

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Speaker 1: Four, the issues that affect you and a bit of

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Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

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Speaker 1: excuse talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be well back to a more traditional track this

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Speaker 3: weekend and racing bulls need to show they can remain competitive.

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01:42:25,412 --> 01:42:27,972
Speaker 3: New Zealand driver Liam Lawson picked up his first points

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Speaker 3: of the Formula One season last weekend with an eighth

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Speaker 3: place finish at Monaco. However, unlike the Spanish Grand Prix,

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Speaker 3: that is on a circus, that circuit that is fast

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Speaker 3: with some high speed corners. It's going to be exciting

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Speaker 3: to chat more about this. We're joined by Alex Powell.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Herald sports journalists. Get a Alex, and guys

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Speaker 3: hope you as well very well.

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Speaker 4: Thanks do you say Grand Prix or Grand Prix because

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Speaker 4: Tylus is Grand Prix.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, Tyler's wrong, that's the christ jests coming out of me.

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Speaker 3: I stand by what I said, Alex. You know it's

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01:42:58,093 --> 01:43:00,013
Speaker 3: a grand thing. It's a Grand Prix. But I hear

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Speaker 3: what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Oh you just think it's grand. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How much of a confidence boost do you think it

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Speaker 2: was for Liam getting some points at Monaco, Alex?

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Speaker 27: I mean I think that's two parts in that one.

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Speaker 27: Obviously it's going to be a huge boost for him

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Speaker 27: to actually have some points and get a bit of

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Speaker 27: breathing room from Red Bull. But from what he's been

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Speaker 27: saying all season, I mean, since it's moved back to

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Speaker 27: racing balls, his confidence as it hasn't actually been that damage.

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Speaker 27: The things that have just been going against him are

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Speaker 27: the ones that have been holding him back.

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Speaker 2: Does the Spanish Grand Prix suit the racing bulls or

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Speaker 2: a lamb like going forward? Because he had so much

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01:43:33,893 --> 01:43:37,293
Speaker 2: bad luck and then he's got some points and he

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Speaker 2: needs some more luck and some more points. So is

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Speaker 2: this a good place for him to be going next?

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Speaker 27: It's a place he knows well. I mean Spain and

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Speaker 27: Barcelona in particular is a track where a lot of

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Speaker 27: the cars used to do their pre season testing. It's

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Speaker 27: a regular feature on the Formula two circuit, so it

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01:43:51,173 --> 01:43:53,932
Speaker 27: is a track he does know well. It's I don't

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Speaker 27: think of some of my head. He's actually had a

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Speaker 27: podium finished and F two or F three at Barcelona,

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Speaker 27: but all the ingredients are there for him to do well,

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Speaker 27: given that we've seen what happens when it all goes

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Speaker 27: his way.

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Speaker 4: Is there any opportunities for passing in Spain.

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Speaker 27: A lot more than Monaco? But yes, and in short

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01:44:12,772 --> 01:44:14,452
Speaker 27: there are a couple of dress. It is quite a

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Speaker 27: fast circuit, which means if you do get your pet

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01:44:17,133 --> 01:44:20,893
Speaker 27: strategy right, you can definitely undercut drivers who pit after you.

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Speaker 27: So I wouldn't really have the worries that we had

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Speaker 27: with Monaco or a Miller before that.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Alex Power, New Zealand, Alex Powell, New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Herald sports journalist and man that I punished late

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Speaker 2: into the night whenever I'm watching you F one because

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Speaker 2: I know he'll be up so I pepper him.

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01:44:36,893 --> 01:44:40,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's often just me and watching and I apologize

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Speaker 4: on the half of it.

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Speaker 12: I love it.

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Speaker 27: A fifteen year old me and you that Matt Heath

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Speaker 27: would be texting him till in the morning.

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Speaker 2: So with racing balls, you know, with this, with had Jail,

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Speaker 2: with this teammate looking so good as moving back up

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01:44:53,293 --> 01:44:55,772
Speaker 2: to Red Bull looking a long way away at the

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01:44:55,812 --> 01:44:58,132
Speaker 2: moment for them, I mean, that's.

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Speaker 27: The million dollar question moment. If you had to make

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01:44:59,772 --> 01:45:03,092
Speaker 27: a call right now, you'd probably say had Jar's the guy. However,

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Speaker 27: so much of what happens in Formula one is recency bias,

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01:45:06,293 --> 01:45:08,492
Speaker 27: and we know that the season will finish on a

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01:45:08,532 --> 01:45:10,412
Speaker 27: lot of tracks that Liam not only has driven on

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Speaker 27: but has done well on. So you've got plays like

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Speaker 27: Austin and Brazil. We got points last year, plays like

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01:45:14,853 --> 01:45:16,532
Speaker 27: Abby Dabi where he's one and f two. So if

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Speaker 27: he can get the right results at the right time,

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01:45:18,933 --> 01:45:21,333
Speaker 27: there's no reason why they shouldn't look at him. However,

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Speaker 27: you do raise the very significant point that no one

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01:45:24,333 --> 01:45:27,213
Speaker 27: has ever gone down to racing balls and then back

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Speaker 27: up to Red Bull. But hey, let's not also forget

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Speaker 27: that no one had ever climbed everys until the key

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Speaker 27: We did it either, right, So.

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Speaker 32: Let's just hold onto that.

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Speaker 2: I nically said, and we talked to the fifty third

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Speaker 2: person to climb Everest yesterday fifty third New Zealand even

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Speaker 2: to do it. So if Liam started beating head Yer,

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Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't go back up to Red Bull. But

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Speaker 2: does he get will he be able to stay in

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Speaker 2: Racing Balls next year potentially, or is this somewhere else.

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Speaker 12: He could go.

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Speaker 27: I think he'd want to stay at Racing Balls and

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Speaker 27: be in the Red Bull family for now. I mean,

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01:45:55,013 --> 01:45:57,772
Speaker 27: for everything I've spoken about, he's very loyal to Red Bull.

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01:45:57,853 --> 01:45:59,852
Speaker 27: He knows that he wouldn't be where he is without

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Speaker 27: the face Red Bull showing them in the finance as

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Speaker 27: they put behind him. But if it gets to a

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Speaker 27: point where it was with someone like Pierre Gasli who

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01:46:06,333 --> 01:46:09,133
Speaker 27: once he moved back down to the second team and

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01:46:09,253 --> 01:46:10,812
Speaker 27: the door was just shut from you do have to

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Speaker 27: look elsewhere. And I think a lot of the other

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01:46:12,772 --> 01:46:16,212
Speaker 27: team principles know how good limb as you remember Williams

2346
01:46:16,293 --> 01:46:17,973
Speaker 27: came in from last year, but Red Bull said no

2347
01:46:18,133 --> 01:46:20,012
Speaker 27: howd he wanted to sign him but they couldn't because

2348
01:46:20,013 --> 01:46:22,293
Speaker 27: of how his Red Bull contract worked. So if he

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01:46:22,412 --> 01:46:24,012
Speaker 27: keeps doing the things they're doing and can just stay

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01:46:24,013 --> 01:46:26,053
Speaker 27: on the grid somewhere, someone will want to keep him

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01:46:26,053 --> 01:46:27,293
Speaker 27: on longer term, could.

2352
01:46:27,173 --> 01:46:28,812
Speaker 2: Have been quite good to go to Williams Can there

2353
01:46:28,853 --> 01:46:31,933
Speaker 2: could have been potentially a better option for him this

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01:46:32,093 --> 01:46:35,572
Speaker 2: Texas is do you think this is fair? Alex funny

2355
01:46:35,612 --> 01:46:38,732
Speaker 2: that Liam's greatest victory to date is from driving slowly?

2356
01:46:38,973 --> 01:46:39,772
Speaker 4: Do you think that's fear?

2357
01:46:40,732 --> 01:46:41,933
Speaker 27: The irony is not lost to me?

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01:46:42,612 --> 01:46:43,372
Speaker 12: Wrote that in the week.

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Speaker 27: So a lot of the criticism from you know, parts

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01:46:45,853 --> 01:46:48,732
Speaker 27: of Mexico and Japan and Australia who all had drivers

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01:46:48,812 --> 01:46:50,652
Speaker 27: lose out to Lim was they started calling him slow

2362
01:46:50,692 --> 01:46:52,972
Speaker 27: soon after he struggled early on. So to have him

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01:46:53,013 --> 01:46:55,692
Speaker 27: drive slowly and actually benefit from it was I think

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01:46:55,772 --> 01:46:56,972
Speaker 27: just a bit of poetic justice.

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Speaker 2: And so I whide to assume because a lot of

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01:46:59,333 --> 01:47:02,133
Speaker 2: New Zealanders and McLaren fans, you know, we love Liam

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01:47:02,213 --> 01:47:05,213
Speaker 2: Lawson and we've jumped on board with Red Bill in

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01:47:05,333 --> 01:47:07,412
Speaker 2: racing bills because of Liam Lawson. But a lot of

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01:47:07,492 --> 01:47:09,892
Speaker 2: keywis because of the street with Bruce and McLaren fans

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01:47:09,973 --> 01:47:14,132
Speaker 2: like me, And what's happening with this McLaren front wing situation.

2371
01:47:14,333 --> 01:47:18,173
Speaker 2: Will these changes affect their their dominance so far this season?

2372
01:47:18,812 --> 01:47:20,652
Speaker 27: Well, I'd like to point out it's not just McLaren.

2373
01:47:20,692 --> 01:47:23,572
Speaker 27: It's everyone who is having their wings having to comply

2374
01:47:23,692 --> 01:47:27,053
Speaker 27: with new regulations. Will that affect McLaren I dynam remember

2375
01:47:27,093 --> 01:47:29,173
Speaker 27: back to last year where they's a couple of teams

2376
01:47:29,253 --> 01:47:32,293
Speaker 27: protested McLaren's rear wings and they had to change from

2377
01:47:32,412 --> 01:47:35,532
Speaker 27: Singapore onwards and they still comfortably won that driver's title

2378
01:47:35,612 --> 01:47:38,572
Speaker 27: or so the constructor's title from Ferrari. So whether or

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Speaker 27: not it will actually hold McLaren back, given that everyone

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Speaker 27: else has to go through it is still to be

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01:47:44,173 --> 01:47:46,253
Speaker 27: saying we probably won't know until qualifying. But then you

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Speaker 27: look at a team like Ferrari, who'd have thought the

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01:47:48,612 --> 01:47:50,772
Speaker 27: whole season has been they have been really conservative with

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Speaker 27: their front wings. So is that a chance for them

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01:47:52,812 --> 01:47:54,732
Speaker 27: to maybe overtake a couple of teams here? It's just

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01:47:54,812 --> 01:47:55,932
Speaker 27: going to be a real wait and see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well waiting and seeing seven hours and forty four

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Speaker 2: minutes and eleven seconds till practice one in Spain twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited, and yeah, I'll be up texting you constantly,

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Speaker 2: Alex with all my questions and opinions.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, just do it, like maybe half an hour after

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01:48:11,692 --> 01:48:12,333
Speaker 27: everything's finished.

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Speaker 3: No promises, Alex, No promises, no dice mate, Very good

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Speaker 3: to catch up, enjoy the race and we'll work chet

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Speaker 3: again next week. That is Alex Bell, New Zealand Herald Sports,

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Speaker 3: a journalist. That is going to be a fascinating race.

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Speaker 3: And like we said, Liam has got hopefully his confidence back,

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Speaker 3: and it certainly was a good result for him, but

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Speaker 3: one out of the season after some tough previous races.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean as Alex said, though, I

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01:48:39,572 --> 01:48:42,772
Speaker 2: think Liam Lawson's one of those guys that I don't

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01:48:42,772 --> 01:48:45,732
Speaker 2: know if he ever lost his confidence. He had a

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01:48:45,772 --> 01:48:47,532
Speaker 2: lot of bad luck and he might have felt like

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01:48:47,572 --> 01:48:50,972
Speaker 2: he was cursed, but I think he's always believed in himself.

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01:48:51,173 --> 01:48:53,532
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that'll pay off over time.

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01:48:53,652 --> 01:48:56,012
Speaker 3: Right, we're going to play some messages, but back very shortly.

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen to four. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

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01:48:59,732 --> 01:49:00,652
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you.

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01:49:01,973 --> 01:49:05,372
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:49:05,732 --> 01:49:09,492
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used

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01:49:09,532 --> 01:49:11,452
Speaker 1: talks on news talks.

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01:49:12,213 --> 01:49:14,933
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. Due, it is eleven to four and

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01:49:15,013 --> 01:49:17,093
Speaker 3: I hate to bring back this topic, but a text

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01:49:17,133 --> 01:49:19,173
Speaker 3: has just come through and it is a very fair point.

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01:49:19,213 --> 01:49:20,932
Speaker 3: So it was about fat shaming that we were talking

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01:49:20,933 --> 01:49:23,692
Speaker 3: about a little bit earlier this hour, and the textas

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01:49:23,692 --> 01:49:27,412
Speaker 3: here is, guys all this chat about fat shaming. Didn't

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01:49:27,452 --> 01:49:31,572
Speaker 3: my Hosking fat shame Matt a few months ago? And

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01:49:31,893 --> 01:49:33,452
Speaker 3: uh yeah I think he did?

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Speaker 14: Did he?

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01:49:34,293 --> 01:49:36,492
Speaker 3: Wow, here's a little bit of what happened. If you

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01:49:36,652 --> 01:49:39,173
Speaker 3: looked like him, If you look like him, why would

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01:49:39,213 --> 01:49:40,133
Speaker 3: you take your top off?

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01:49:40,732 --> 01:49:41,452
Speaker 14: Have you seen him?

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01:49:42,093 --> 01:49:45,333
Speaker 4: He's in shocking shape, in shape?

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01:49:45,893 --> 01:49:49,852
Speaker 12: I cannot say why not? Here's the deal.

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Speaker 34: I just got to say, you're you're rinsing the PM

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01:49:53,452 --> 01:49:57,772
Speaker 34: for not not showing agency. Where's where's where's the where's

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01:49:57,853 --> 01:50:00,852
Speaker 34: the agency shown here? Where's where's the where's the is

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01:50:01,333 --> 01:50:04,413
Speaker 34: he in Jason's office? What's the what's the timeline?

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01:50:06,173 --> 01:50:07,812
Speaker 9: What is the process currently underway?

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01:50:08,532 --> 01:50:08,692
Speaker 12: Yeah?

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01:50:08,772 --> 01:50:15,612
Speaker 4: No, I can't answer that. To be fair today, grievances

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01:50:15,692 --> 01:50:17,333
Speaker 4: go both ways. Just have to listen to this. Oh

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01:50:17,812 --> 01:50:20,293
Speaker 4: I'm just looking over the rubbishman here and Hosking. Doesn't

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01:50:20,412 --> 01:50:22,133
Speaker 4: it be the rubbish won when he leaves? Because it's

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01:50:22,173 --> 01:50:24,093
Speaker 4: too let's get that.

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01:50:24,213 --> 01:50:28,932
Speaker 2: We just started listening to my Hosking breakfast from months ago. Look,

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01:50:29,612 --> 01:50:32,333
Speaker 2: look that was around the issue when I spiled a

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01:50:32,372 --> 01:50:36,452
Speaker 2: coffee into the console here in the studio, the my

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01:50:36,612 --> 01:50:39,652
Speaker 2: Costing memorial studio, and I made the heroic move of

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01:50:39,692 --> 01:50:42,012
Speaker 2: whipping my shirt off to try and protect the gear

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01:50:42,093 --> 01:50:45,452
Speaker 2: because I love the work of the great tech people

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01:50:45,492 --> 01:50:47,852
Speaker 2: here at ZB do, so I whipped my shirt off

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01:50:47,893 --> 01:50:49,853
Speaker 2: to stop the coffee getting into the electronics.

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01:50:49,933 --> 01:50:52,293
Speaker 4: Right, And that was on video because everything we do

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01:50:52,412 --> 01:50:55,452
Speaker 4: is filmed. And then that was I don't know, for

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01:50:55,612 --> 01:50:57,892
Speaker 4: some reason posted on social media.

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01:50:57,893 --> 01:51:01,692
Speaker 2: Can't get my costing and maybe I was at the

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01:51:01,812 --> 01:51:05,812
Speaker 2: higher end of my yo yoing weight cycle. But I

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01:51:05,853 --> 01:51:08,052
Speaker 2: would actually just say that those cameras when they zoom

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01:51:08,093 --> 01:51:11,492
Speaker 2: in sort of they bring things together the dips the

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01:51:11,532 --> 01:51:13,812
Speaker 2: field gets a bit out of out of whack, and

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01:51:14,053 --> 01:51:15,893
Speaker 2: I locked it a little bit larger than I was

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01:51:15,973 --> 01:51:18,772
Speaker 2: at the time. But I wasn't offended by that out

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01:51:18,812 --> 01:51:19,213
Speaker 2: of shape.

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01:51:19,372 --> 01:51:21,412
Speaker 3: We all know that the camera adds ten pounds and

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01:51:21,853 --> 01:51:23,532
Speaker 3: three cameras on you, so that's thirty pound.

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01:51:23,732 --> 01:51:27,372
Speaker 2: I wasn't offended at all by that. Did I start

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01:51:27,452 --> 01:51:30,612
Speaker 2: going to the gym constantly? Did I start putting my

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01:51:30,652 --> 01:51:32,892
Speaker 2: fingers down my throat after eating meals?

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01:51:33,213 --> 01:51:33,532
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:51:33,652 --> 01:51:38,292
Speaker 4: Did you, yes, did I spiral into a deep depression

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01:51:38,732 --> 01:51:41,732
Speaker 4: and get an unhealthy relationship with the gym. Yes, but

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01:51:41,933 --> 01:51:42,492
Speaker 4: was I offended?

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01:51:42,612 --> 01:51:42,652
Speaker 15: No?

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01:51:44,412 --> 01:51:46,213
Speaker 3: No, those go by the way.

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Speaker 2: You've got to say, though, I'm like, if I whip

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01:51:50,412 --> 01:51:52,293
Speaker 2: my shirt off now, I think that it would cause

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01:51:52,293 --> 01:51:55,812
Speaker 2: a bit of a sensation. I mean, I've accused Darcy

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01:51:55,812 --> 01:51:58,333
Speaker 2: Watergrave of having a twelve pack. He's got a great

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01:51:58,492 --> 01:52:00,253
Speaker 2: rocking boy. But I'm getting close. I reckon, I've got

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01:52:00,293 --> 01:52:02,133
Speaker 2: about three pack at the moment. You're getting very close.

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01:52:02,853 --> 01:52:05,492
Speaker 2: Come hitting up to a six pretty soon. I'll be

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01:52:05,572 --> 01:52:07,572
Speaker 2: going pretty hard at the gym. Actually, you certainly have.

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01:52:07,812 --> 01:52:11,932
Speaker 2: And as we speaking of fitness, fitness things, I'm running

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01:52:11,973 --> 01:52:14,252
Speaker 2: this thing called the Pillar to Poe. This is fantastic

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01:52:14,333 --> 01:52:17,013
Speaker 2: thing that's happening on Saturday, the seventh of June in

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01:52:17,173 --> 01:52:20,293
Speaker 2: Topor And basically it's a seven and a half k

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01:52:20,492 --> 01:52:23,253
Speaker 2: run relay situation. You set yourself up at two miles

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01:52:23,412 --> 01:52:26,892
Speaker 2: at the bar and then you over six hours, it's

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01:52:26,933 --> 01:52:29,173
Speaker 2: how many times you can do the seven and a

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01:52:29,173 --> 01:52:31,692
Speaker 2: half k circuit from Pillar to Poe. And you know,

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01:52:31,732 --> 01:52:33,852
Speaker 2: I'm in a team of three, so we're just going

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01:52:33,933 --> 01:52:36,532
Speaker 2: to be running circling. Going back to the bar running

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01:52:36,572 --> 01:52:39,692
Speaker 2: and circling. It's it's a very very cool events in

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01:52:39,772 --> 01:52:42,492
Speaker 2: its first year. So if you have any way of

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01:52:42,612 --> 01:52:45,692
Speaker 2: being in Topor, or if you are in Topau on Saturday,

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01:52:45,732 --> 01:52:48,412
Speaker 2: the seventh of June, I reckon, I reckon, get a monk,

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01:52:48,452 --> 01:52:50,452
Speaker 2: so I'll be down there. And my team's called the

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01:52:50,652 --> 01:52:56,133
Speaker 2: Hagland Hagland's Deformities. Okay, I'll have just my acully's heel

2492
01:52:56,173 --> 01:52:57,612
Speaker 2: has pulled a little bone out of the back of

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01:52:57,692 --> 01:53:02,652
Speaker 2: my heel from over exertion, and that's called Haglind's deformity.

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01:53:02,692 --> 01:53:04,173
Speaker 2: So that's sort of named my team after And it's

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01:53:04,213 --> 01:53:06,293
Speaker 2: kind of one of those things that's self depreciating things.

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01:53:06,333 --> 01:53:07,812
Speaker 2: So if our times aren't so good, then we can

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01:53:07,812 --> 01:53:09,652
Speaker 2: blame it on the the deformity that will be on

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01:53:09,732 --> 01:53:11,772
Speaker 2: our seets, on our shirts. But the thing is you

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01:53:11,812 --> 01:53:14,372
Speaker 2: can walk it, you can run it. It's a social thing.

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01:53:14,492 --> 01:53:16,133
Speaker 2: You can go as fast as you want, as slow

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01:53:16,213 --> 01:53:19,452
Speaker 2: as one. It's just how many rotations piliticpoe you can

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01:53:19,532 --> 01:53:20,372
Speaker 2: do in six hours.

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01:53:20,372 --> 01:53:22,293
Speaker 4: I reckon, I reckon. It's really cool, So I've signed

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01:53:22,372 --> 01:53:22,612
Speaker 4: up for it.

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01:53:22,692 --> 01:53:25,452
Speaker 3: Pilpo fantastic events. If you want to go check it out.

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01:53:25,732 --> 01:53:29,333
Speaker 3: You can go to pillar two po so that's TPOU

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01:53:29,933 --> 01:53:34,772
Speaker 3: dot com. And how good is laketopor beautiful beautiful spot right?

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01:53:34,893 --> 01:53:38,293
Speaker 3: That is almost US four today. Now a story we

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01:53:38,372 --> 01:53:41,253
Speaker 3: didn't get to and this is a fantastic story for

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01:53:41,372 --> 01:53:44,572
Speaker 3: the good people of Timaru. So the Timuru District Council

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01:53:44,652 --> 01:53:48,253
Speaker 3: took out the win for the best tasting tap water

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01:53:48,452 --> 01:53:51,213
Speaker 3: in New Zealand in twenty twenty five. There were four

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01:53:51,293 --> 01:53:54,972
Speaker 3: contenders in this year's EXOM National Water Taste Test competition

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01:53:55,372 --> 01:53:58,852
Speaker 3: and that included Hey, funnily enough, topor Toporul District Council

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01:53:58,893 --> 01:54:01,732
Speaker 3: are in there, why marked Edi District Council in Canterbury

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01:54:02,013 --> 01:54:06,892
Speaker 3: and last year's champion of Rotorua Lakes Council. So all

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01:54:07,013 --> 01:54:09,173
Speaker 3: the main water supplies and you zan, we're invited to

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01:54:09,293 --> 01:54:12,532
Speaker 3: compete in the competition and submit a sample to the

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01:54:12,612 --> 01:54:16,532
Speaker 3: Water Industry Operations Group. I had no idea this contest existed,

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01:54:16,572 --> 01:54:19,532
Speaker 3: but I liking it. But judging was based on color.

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01:54:19,652 --> 01:54:21,372
Speaker 3: That's important. Complete.

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01:54:21,492 --> 01:54:23,732
Speaker 2: So the water, the more sea through the water is

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01:54:23,933 --> 01:54:25,572
Speaker 2: kind of thing. So the clear clarity of it. So

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01:54:25,572 --> 01:54:27,293
Speaker 2: if it's abit brown, that's no good or whatever.

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01:54:27,412 --> 01:54:30,812
Speaker 3: Well, here are the parameters, so completely translucent without any

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01:54:31,093 --> 01:54:34,812
Speaker 3: white or brown tones. And then clarity, which is kind

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01:54:34,853 --> 01:54:36,093
Speaker 3: of the same thing. Is that that you think so

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01:54:36,493 --> 01:54:40,852
Speaker 3: crystal clear and not cloudy? Odor a nice scent and

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01:54:41,053 --> 01:54:44,333
Speaker 3: taste and taste is a big thing pleasing to the pellette.

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01:54:44,693 --> 01:54:46,093
Speaker 3: I don't know if a nice scent. Does water have

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01:54:46,133 --> 01:54:46,493
Speaker 3: a smell?

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01:54:46,613 --> 01:54:48,133
Speaker 4: The water doesn't smell, does it? I don't think.

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01:54:48,293 --> 01:54:50,653
Speaker 2: Doesn't water any smell if it's going off. Yeah, well,

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01:54:50,693 --> 01:54:52,693
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess if it's got some nice minerals in

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01:54:52,772 --> 01:54:54,973
Speaker 2: it or something. Well you said before actually that you

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01:54:55,013 --> 01:54:55,613
Speaker 2: don't drink water.

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01:54:55,693 --> 01:54:57,653
Speaker 3: You hate it unless it's got you know, a little

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01:54:57,693 --> 01:55:00,213
Speaker 3: bit of sweetener in it, but a raspberry cordy or

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01:55:00,493 --> 01:55:02,892
Speaker 3: in that case, So the.

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01:55:02,933 --> 01:55:05,173
Speaker 2: Water is plain, it's a plane drink. You want flavor

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01:55:05,173 --> 01:55:06,892
Speaker 2: in it. So I won't drink the water, no, Yeah,

2542
01:55:07,173 --> 01:55:09,972
Speaker 2: but I will drink any thing. I will drink stuff

2543
01:55:10,013 --> 01:55:12,093
Speaker 2: with water in it, and I'll eat food with water

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01:55:12,133 --> 01:55:14,613
Speaker 2: in it. But I will not just drink a glass

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01:55:14,653 --> 01:55:15,413
Speaker 2: of water. It's too boring.

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01:55:15,693 --> 01:55:18,453
Speaker 3: So congratulations to tomrou for having the best tap water

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01:55:18,533 --> 01:55:21,573
Speaker 3: in the country. And when you think of Tomorreau, I

2548
01:55:21,693 --> 01:55:23,973
Speaker 3: think some people will think of this song. Who's this

2549
01:55:24,093 --> 01:55:26,613
Speaker 3: band again? Don you got used to hang around with

2550
01:55:26,653 --> 01:55:27,693
Speaker 3: these guys at one point, didn't you?

2551
01:55:28,173 --> 01:55:30,013
Speaker 2: Whoever, they are pretty good and what a way to

2552
01:55:30,173 --> 01:55:32,093
Speaker 2: end New Zealand music months For the key we band

2553
01:55:32,373 --> 01:55:32,933
Speaker 2: crank it.

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01:55:33,253 --> 01:55:35,053
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for today. We'll do it all

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01:55:35,133 --> 01:55:36,012
Speaker 3: again next week.

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01:55:36,493 --> 01:55:37,213
Speaker 4: Check out my guitar.

2557
01:55:37,253 --> 01:55:53,253
Speaker 5: Solough can live in this town thing?

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01:55:53,453 --> 01:55:54,373
Speaker 4: Good Bye.

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01:55:56,613 --> 01:55:59,293
Speaker 5: Sense lovely, how can I Be Happy?

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01:55:59,493 --> 01:56:30,413
Speaker 12: Here for more from News Talk st B.

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