1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Barry Soap is his senior political correspondent, Barry Good Afternoon 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: afternoon right now in the House, the school lunch singers 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: back with a vengeance. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Isn't it terrible? It just goes on and on and on. 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: I mean a Green MPEd by the name of Lawrence Sounan. 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: He even wrote to the Speaker's day and the House 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: proceedings started off with the Speakers saying, I have received 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 2: a letter from this doctor Lawrence Sunan, who apparently is 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: a list MP for the Greens, seeking a snap debate 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: on the so called explodeing school lunch. I think Jerry 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: was in his right mind and said, no, there won't 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: be a snap debate on it. When a lunch falls over, 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: it's not a case for Parliament to charge itself with that. 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: In New Zealand, I just had a look at how 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: many lunches we supply. We supply two hundred and thirty 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: thousand lunches a day. That company that went broke they 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: were more than one hundred thousand of those, so that's 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: quite significant. And I was looking around the world and 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: having a look at where our school lunch is being provided. 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Most countries are supplying them to needy schools and needy areas. 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: If you think of India for example, and the Prime 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Mierster could take a few tips from India on school 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: lunches when he goes there next week. They supply one 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five million school lunches a day. I 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: imagine that. But anyway, look Labour's Chris Hipkins. He was 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: banging on about how bad the school lunches are in 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: Parliament today, but I believe he scored something of an 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: own goal. How many times have we heard about that 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: exploding lunch and gisbon? I mean, what happened was the 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: kid carrying the lunch actually dropped it and splashed a 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: bit of the whatever the lunch was on his leg 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: and got burnt. Well, it's hardly an exploding lunch. The 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: media have called it. Many sections of the media have 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: called it the exploding lunch, and Hipkins himself today called 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: it that and the one lunch, the more than one 36 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: lunch is exploded. If you listen to Chris zipsism, why is. 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: He willing to wait until term two for the chaos 38 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: David Seymour's cause to the school lunch program to be fixed, 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 3: given kids are going hungry lunches are still arriving late 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: or not at all, some of the food is inedible, 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: and in the worst cases, kids are being physically injured 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: by exploding lunches. 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: Well, the incident we saw last week was unacceptable and 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 4: not something we want to see at all. I think 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: the Minister has fronted really clearly on that actually suspending 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: those type of lunches. 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 5: Through the Can the Prime Minister confirm that yesterday's on 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 5: time delivery for the Healthy School Lunch program was ninety 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 5: nine point seven four percent And is that better than 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: the delivery of the vaccine roll out which someone forgot 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 5: to order. 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: Ouch, And don't forget that Chris Sipkins was the COVID minute. 53 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: Of course he was at the time, so that was 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: a bit of a good comeback. 55 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: I guess there's the politics of it, and then there's 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: why did we give these guys the contract if they 58 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: were six weeks from going balley up so they knew 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: it's right. 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: So I'm strange. 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: David Seymour on the show after five on that. Now, 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: this investment summit kicking off this week in Auckland and 63 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the Greens are waiting in. 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: Well, they were in Parliament today and if yesterday's polls 65 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: anything to go by, of course the Labor led government 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: will have the Greens at the Cabinet table have a 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: listen to their co leader Madam and Davidson quizzing the 68 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Prime Minister in Parliament about the summit and how comfortable 69 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: are you with the sort of her sort of economic thinking. 70 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 6: What exactly is his growth strategy to utilize and develop 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 6: our local wealth base here in altoa New Zealand. 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: Has done a very very poor job over a number 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: of decades of attracting capital to New Zealand. 74 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 6: Is it fair that the biggest early childhood education provider 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 6: that New Zealanders have to send their tamadiqi so they 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 6: can go to mahe pulled in thirty two million dollars 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 6: of tax free profits last year while most people are 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 6: struggling to get by. 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: I mean, this is just characterized as the Greens position, 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: doesn't it It's ad growth agenda of living in a 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 4: hermit kingdom. 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 6: Will the Prime Minister increase public ownership of the basic 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 6: things we all need just to live, like school lunches, 84 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 6: healthcare and childcare or will he choose to sell off 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 6: I'll tell I have. 86 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: To say the Greens are totally deluded on economics. I mean, 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: I don't know how to say it any other way. 88 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: It was Shane Jones yelling out Maxus Maxis in the background. 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: But look, it is interesting, isn't I heard your editorial. 90 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: And you know it's been traditionally so hard to raise 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: capital in this country because we simply don't have enough. 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: I mean, these people are trillionaires coming to the country. 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: Six trillion dollars is represented this investment summit, a lot 94 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: of money, and I've heard from some very senior people 95 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: involved in the investment community saying the problem with New 96 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: Zealand up until now is they haven't had projects to offer. Now, 97 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: hopefully over the next few days Thursday and Friday, we'll 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: see a number of projects on the table so that 99 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: these people can look at them and say, yeah, that 100 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: could be a good invent. 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: And hopefully having Barbara Edmonds at the giving a speech 102 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: to there and showing her support make of them an 103 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: indication that yeah, it's good. It's good because you need consistency. Yeah, Barry, 104 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: thank you very much. No problem is always Barry Soper, 105 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: Senior political correspondent. 106 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: Here for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 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