1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So over in the UK this has been a massive, 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: massive debate of late as to whether the UK government 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: needs to pay reparations to people who were affected in 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: country colonial you know, parts of the colony and parts 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: of the Empire that were affected by the Transatlantic slave trade. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: And the pressure has really been ratcheted up on the government. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Sir Kiir Starmer's shot that down, but so has Charles 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: today and his speech, which I thought was interesting because 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: normally they're supposed to stay out of politics, awebit. He 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: acknowledged there were painful aspects of Britain's pass and then 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: said none of us can change the past, but we 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: can commit to learning its lessons, indicating no reparations coming. 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Eleven past five. 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Now. 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Officials have held an urgent meeting this afternoon following the 16 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: fatal bus attack in Auckland on Wednesday. Thirty seven year 17 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: old kale Le Owner has been charged with murder. He 18 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: will appear in court next month. Auckland Transport Police and 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: government minister Simi and Brown and Mark Mitchell were involved 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: in today's meeting. Mark Mitchell is obviously the police minister. Hamrich, Hi, 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: how are you very well? Thank you so did you 22 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: make any decisions at this meeting today. 23 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: So basically Subian's going to have some announcements to make tomorrow. 24 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: From the police side of it, police had already searched 25 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: additional staff in and around the transport nodes and hubs 26 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: as a source of reassurance. We want to reassure people. 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: We want them to feel that it's safe to access 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: and use public transport and look to be honestly, there's 29 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: been some conversations over the last few weeks intent with 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Auckland transporters as well in terms of what else can 31 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: we do to sort of make that public transport getwork 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: safe up. 33 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: So, I mean, I'm guessing that I'm guessing the announcements tomorrow. 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: The fact that there's an announcement means something's going to 35 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: change it. I'm guessing that's going to be boosting safety 36 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: on at least some of the buses. 37 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think some of it. And his team 38 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: will been working really hard on this and I think 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: that he will have an announcement tomorrow. I don't want 40 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: to get ahead of that. I can certainly talk to 41 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: what police have been doing. I mean, you know they've 42 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: been out any in their response the offender nows and custody, 43 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: which was critically important. They'll have more to say and 44 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: more information to come in relation to the incident. But 45 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: now I'm really focused on reassurance and also, of course 46 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: my heart goes out to the family. I've reached out 47 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: to them and said if they want me to come 48 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: and see them in the visiting I can do to 49 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: support them. They only have to ask Mitch. 50 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Look, the thing is, I appreciate that there will be 51 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: an element of kind of making reassuring the public by 52 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: putting a safety element on the buses, but the fact 53 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: is that's not actually going to solve the fundamental problem here. 54 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: The fundamental problem is that we have got more people 55 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: in society who are acting up and who are unwell 56 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: and probably need to spend time behind bus. Is that 57 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: really how we fix this? 58 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a societal issue, without a doubt, It's 59 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: a big one and there's something that we have to 60 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: really figure out and tackle. I mean, it doesn't matter 61 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: whether it's our first responders, whether it's retail workers. For 62 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: some reason in society, some people seem to have taken 63 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: taken upon themselves that they can act in a way 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: that's actually not acceptable. Whether it be verbal or physical 65 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 2: assaults and that is something that you know we're having 66 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: to deal with. But I'm optimistic. I'm very focused. We're 67 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: very focused in terms of what we have to do 68 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: around policing, and I'm also quite excited about the fact 69 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: that obviously we've got our Social Investment Agency standing up 70 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: and that is going, to my view, that is how 71 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: we're going to get lasting change in terms of dealing 72 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: with these real, deep in generational problems that we've been 73 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 2: experiencing as a country for a long time. 74 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: All Right, match, thanks very much, Mark Mitchell, Police Minister. 75 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drave, listen live to 76 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: news talks they'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 77 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.