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Speaker 2: Wlling You welcome today. You can on a insight pull

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Speaker 2: you on housing and business profits more, angth Server, Pealestone,

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Speaker 2: Grant Dalton on these new couple rules, Mark and Jinny

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Speaker 2: pony up after right for Richard, I will state side

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Speaker 2: Steve price Inos.

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Speaker 3: Failure forus as well.

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Speaker 2: Pasky, Welcome to the day. Seven past six. Never takes

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Speaker 2: long to find the bank of the taxpayer. Don't you

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Speaker 2: reckon the Green Building Council. We'll talk to them later.

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Speaker 2: The Green Building Council has lined up the government for

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Speaker 2: lord knows how many millions of dollars so we can

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Speaker 2: audit our gas heaters, buy heat pumps and save us

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Speaker 2: all one money and two apparently the gas industry are

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Speaker 2: We talked yesterday with businesses who use gas. Some are

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Speaker 2: looking to convert, some want discretionary loans from you know who.

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Speaker 2: Major gas users met the Minister last Friday. I assume

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Speaker 2: to state the obvious that we don't have enough gas,

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Speaker 2: so something needs to be done. Just what the something is?

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Speaker 2: No one seems to know give and I have been

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Speaker 2: given no clear answer so far to a fairly simple

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Speaker 2: question I've asked a number of times over the past

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Now, at the big level, like method

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Speaker 2: X or balance, I don't know there is an answer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you either pay the price or presumably pass

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Speaker 2: smaller level, does a grower of something need a government

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Speaker 2: loan or a handout? Should a grower not have seen

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Speaker 2: the price of gas and thought to themselves might like

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Speaker 2: to inquire about an alternative? You do, I guess? Get

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Speaker 2: that interface between business being for personal good versus wider

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Speaker 2: good like jobs and produce for the country, and what

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Speaker 2: role the government might play in that. At a personal level,

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Speaker 2: we use gas at our place price as a joke.

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Speaker 2: We may or may not need to look at something different.

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Speaker 2: But meantime, I am prepared to put the bill and

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Speaker 2: I've got no desire to seek help from the government

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Speaker 2: at the Green Building Council or right, and we all

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Speaker 2: switch to electricity as supplied by rain, wouldn't life be great?

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Speaker 2: But we all know it's not that easy. We all

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Speaker 2: know the renewable journey has been and remains a cluster.

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Speaker 2: We all know a variety of circumstances. A coalest to

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Speaker 2: provide the sort of business environment that leads to big bills,

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Speaker 2: big cutbacks, job losses and lack of growth. It's an

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Speaker 2: open question, I guess, as to how much of the

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Speaker 2: lack of gas is about the Labour Party and the

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Speaker 2: killing of an industry versus what we already had running

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Speaker 2: out faster than we thought. But is it possible we

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Speaker 2: could just have a mindset change whereby the taxpayer isn't

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Speaker 2: always the first cab off the rank to cover yet

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Speaker 2: more lack of foresight and planning.

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Speaker 1: Wow, news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: In the world of seemingly unsolvable problems, the British government

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Speaker 2: remained bogged down this morning in the illegal boat drama

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Speaker 2: New Day, new record. They've cracked fifty thousand since arriving

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Speaker 2: in government. The Tories. They're making hay.

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Speaker 4: The thing that will fix this problem, what will stop

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Speaker 4: the boots is the deterrent, which means they don't come

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Speaker 4: here in the first place.

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Speaker 5: And Leba does not have the deterrent plan.

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Speaker 2: The government to try and the oldest trick in the book.

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Speaker 6: We've taken our responsibility to work internationally to change the law,

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Speaker 6: to improve the way in which the asylum system works.

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Speaker 6: The last government did none of those things and focused

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Speaker 6: on gimmicks.

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Speaker 2: Unsolvable Problem number two the United Nations still jawby in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East. Why is Famas and why is ja?

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Speaker 7: We also demand that Israel, as the occupying power, immediately

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Speaker 7: and unconditionally allowed the entry of humanitarian assistance at scale

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Speaker 2: The israelis working hard at the journalist claims why is Kamas.

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Speaker 8: And why is el Jazeira having terrorists on their payroll

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Speaker 8: working as journalists?

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Speaker 9: And why are terrorists also functioning as journalists?

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Speaker 1: With questions?

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Speaker 2: I think that those are questions.

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Speaker 9: That need to be very alarming and we need to

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Speaker 2: Unsolvable Problem number three the European thanks over the Saturday's

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Speaker 2: chin wag in Alaska. The war is not succeeding. They

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Speaker 2: are not getting what they want.

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Speaker 10: Ukraine is standing strong, so they are trying, of course,

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Speaker 10: various other means.

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Speaker 1: So we just have to be very realistic.

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Speaker 2: All I can those played.

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Speaker 11: Putin has not renounced any of his maximalists and imperialist

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Speaker 11: demands and claims. So I think we have to see

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Speaker 11: to it that this meeting ends with something that is

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Speaker 2: They have announced a location. It's an anchorage probably not surprisingly.

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Speaker 2: Finally are what some suggests is Britain's WOCUST Council gave

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Speaker 2: us more material this morning. This is Burton Council, South London.

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Speaker 2: They're now asking stuff to call parents caregivers rather than

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Speaker 2: I don't know mum or dad. That way it's more inclusive.

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Speaker 2: They've also told workers not to use the words young,

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Speaker 2: old or mature because that would be ages. Of course,

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Speaker 2: they put these new directives in their twenty seven page

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Speaker 2: and inclusive Language Guy, which says you cannot say things

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Speaker 2: like mannadsk. That is news of the world in ninety

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Speaker 2: it's all go, I tell you what. In the world

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Speaker 2: of finance, three point six percent. The RBA of Australia

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Speaker 2: will look at this. In just a couple of moments

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Speaker 2: moved yesterday twenty five points US inflation came in. Oh

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Speaker 2: my lord, they loved it. The markets off to the races.

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Speaker 2: I'll come back to this later, but the jobs market

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Speaker 2: in the UK's interesting. Unemployment to state at four point

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Speaker 2: seven percent, but there's some interesting numbers around that. Who's

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Speaker 2: got inflation under control? Answer? India one point five to

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Speaker 2: straight month, fourteen past six, j Am I Wealth, Andrew Callah,

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Speaker 2: Good morning morning, Mike. Right, there's a big news day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Sparks start me off with that good or bad? Are

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Speaker 12: This is good. I think if you want to characterize

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Speaker 12: whether they single word look the share price. Sparks share

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Speaker 12: that its data centers confirmed yesterday's seventy five percent interest

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Speaker 12: Pacific Equity Partners that values the data center business to

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Speaker 12: over seven hundred million Mike. It was a good attractive price.

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Speaker 12: It de risks that business because Spark would have had

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Speaker 12: future capex commitments there. Positive for the balance sheet helps

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Speaker 12: Spark maintain that attractive dividend, which has been important for investors.

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Speaker 12: August their adding results, share share price. Yes, they gave

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Speaker 12: good okay. Alliance Yeah, been on a journey. There's to

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Speaker 12: they've had a recapitalization plan in place. Another deal that

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Speaker 12: had been rumored confirmed. Yes, they quite a big deal.

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Speaker 12: They've sold sixty five percent of that business to an

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Speaker 12: New Zealand owned anymore. It's called Dawn meets two hundred

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Speaker 12: It needs shareholder approval. Values Alliance at five hundred and

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Speaker 12: they point of interest here might because it reflects us, guess,

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Speaker 12: I guess. They said, persistent economic challenges in both New

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Speaker 12: with aggressive and in their view, unsustainable pricing by some

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Speaker 12: safe from looking back at much. However, they did say

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Speaker 2: interesting is if you look at her forecast, she's not bullish,

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Speaker 12: Look, where as expected, they ropped the cash rup by

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Speaker 12: Labor market conditions easy as expected, unanimous decision, and there

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Speaker 12: outlook for productivity growth is zero point seven percent per year.

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Speaker 12: hitting supply constraints and fueling inflation. Look, this sounds very

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Speaker 12: familiar to the issue we've got here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 12: So all is not better across the ditch, and it's

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Speaker 12: an Australasian problem. This is one that both economies have

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Speaker 2: Right, So correct me if I'm wrong. CPI was good.

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Speaker 2: This is the state. CPI was good. That means Pal's

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Speaker 12: On expectations for US CPI of night at the headline,

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Speaker 12: not enough to change expectations of cutting the Fed funds

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Speaker 12: They're off to the races. It's a little bit hard

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Speaker 2: Have a good day, mate. Andrew Kelleher JMO wealth dot

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Speaker 2: Good Insight. Mike, could you please explain to us why

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Speaker 2: we can't buy gas from Australia. Well, we can't obviously,

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Speaker 2: The government could put some time, resources and effort into

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Speaker 2: Just had to spend thirty grand had to park a

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Speaker 2: You make a most excellent point, and the next time

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Speaker 8: They could riot, he could perform nothing he couldn't do.

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Speaker 2: The actual key to him?

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Speaker 18: Bring an answer.

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Speaker 2: Never had a bad chat with John Clark. A couple

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Speaker 2: How is that even possible in a world where everything's

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Speaker 2: Is that a meeting? Can you just imagine that the

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Speaker 2: Houses got some details on that new data this morning,

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Speaker 1: Next the News and the newsmakers, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Rangrover leading by example, News Togs dead be.

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Speaker 2: John Clark up dates from somebody who seems to nobody's

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Speaker 2: talking about Mike. It's going to be online for downloading

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Speaker 2: after three weeks. Three weeks after being released in Australia,

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Speaker 2: it's released in Australia's Friday, which is good, so thank

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Speaker 2: you for that. Twenty three to seven are Housing update.

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Speaker 2: New QB data this morning, average values dipping a half

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Speaker 2: percent over the last three months to July Upen down

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Speaker 2: one point two, Queenstown though up two point four. Come

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Speaker 2: two key here is the average price is down thirteen

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Speaker 2: with us, Brad morning, good morning, you crunch down through

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Speaker 2: the building boom the consents that we had a couple

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Speaker 2: now versus the mood of the nation. Do we know

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Speaker 4: I think there's a few factors coming through, Mike. I mean,

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Speaker 4: People got hit earlier this year when their deposits, you

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Speaker 2: Do you believe the interest rate argument? As they come down?

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Speaker 2: Continue to come down. A and Z moved yesterday. I'm

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Speaker 2: This is the fizz we need?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you'll see movement to a degree. I'm

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's probably where Kelly and I diverge

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Speaker 4: But probably most importantly, the big sort of question, and

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Speaker 4: You might well have the slowest population growth effectively since

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Speaker 2: You're a good bloke. Always good to have you on

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Speaker 2: to me, but nice insight. He's with us after rape

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Speaker 2: twenty five basis points. Mike is going to make a

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Speaker 2: jot of difference while rates, electricity, insurance, and to a

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Speaker 2: lesser extent, food prices keep rising. I can't help but

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Speaker 2: agree with you, Mike. Lower interest rate won't fix the economy.

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Speaker 2: The economy is severely energy constrained. That's a good way

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Speaker 2: of putting it. Actually, energy is the master resource for production.

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Speaker 2: Nothing happens without energy, and we unfortunately don't have a lot.

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Speaker 2: Can't argue with you. Ida Larry sixteen.

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Speaker 19: To two International correspondence with Ends and Eye insurance Peace

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Speaker 19: of Mind for New Zealand business logo.

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Speaker 2: We found wandering out of the Woods Richard Arland. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: what anyway?

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Speaker 14: You're just back from a Hoigh Mountain hiking trip to

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Speaker 14: find Could it be a romance rekindled between Donnie and Vlad?

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Speaker 14: That seems to be the headline today, doesn't it. There's

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Speaker 14: the US President's.

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Speaker 20: Going to see Putin.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to Russia.

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Speaker 14: Oh he's as excited, doesn't he. He's going to see

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Speaker 14: Putin in Alaska? Did the White House just sell Alaska

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Speaker 14: back to the Russians while I was off?

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Speaker 15: You know?

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Speaker 14: The Russians sold Alaska to the US in eighteen sixty

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Speaker 14: seven for the purchase price seven point two midian US.

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Speaker 14: Last I heard, it was still part of the US

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Speaker 14: of A. I hope the pilot of air was one

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Speaker 14: days where we're taking Trump? Anyway? This will be the

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Speaker 14: first trip by Putin landing on American soil in eighteen years,

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Speaker 14: except for visits to the UN. The topic will be

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Speaker 14: the Russian invasion of Ukraine, although the Ukrainian leader Zelenski

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Speaker 14: is not invited, and Trump seems to be reviving the

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Speaker 14: idea that Ukraine started this blood bath when it was

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Speaker 14: because Putin, who invaded Ukraine, says Trump.

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Speaker 20: I get along with Zelenski, but you know, I disagree

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Speaker 20: with what he's done, very very severely disagreed. This is

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Speaker 20: a war that should have never happened.

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Speaker 14: So how can they discuss potential peace in Ukraine without

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Speaker 14: the Ukrainians, says Trump, who.

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Speaker 18: Wasn't a part of it.

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Speaker 20: I would say he could go, but he's gone to

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Speaker 20: a lot of meetings. You know, he's been there for

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Speaker 20: three and a half years.

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Speaker 2: Nothing happened, no lots of meetings.

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Speaker 14: The Alaska meeting was set after Trump's special voice, the whitcof,

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Speaker 14: a former real estate mogul, met with Putin last week

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Speaker 14: in Moscow. Zelenski says Putin is showing no signs of

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Speaker 14: accepting any cease fire, have no signs of being ready

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Speaker 14: for realistic peace discussions. European leaders are warning today that

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Speaker 14: Ukrainian leaders, if there's any thought of borders being redrawn,

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Speaker 14: are being skirted by all of this discussion. While Trump

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Speaker 14: says of that prospect is.

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Speaker 20: Very complex because you have lines that are very uneven,

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Speaker 20: and there'll be some swapping, there'll be some changes in land.

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Speaker 14: Since the Trump blow up with Zelenski in the Oval

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Speaker 14: Office six months ago. The American president has shown frustration

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Speaker 14: with Putin as well. Now it seems the Russian leader

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Speaker 14: is hoping to reignite that old black magic right Washington.

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Speaker 14: The Feds there, yep, oh yeah, they're just moving in

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Speaker 14: as we speak. Life March is on this time in

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Speaker 14: the shape of the National Guard who are deploying in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 14: the US Capitol. President Trump says, this center of the

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Speaker 14: political universe has been gripped by a crime emergency.

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Speaker 20: Our capital city has been overtaken by violent gangs and

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Speaker 20: bloodthirsty criminals, roving mobs of wild youth, drugged out, many

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Speaker 20: homeless people.

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Speaker 14: Wow, he should be doing the tourist. Should the blood thirsty,

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Speaker 14: violent gang's roving mobs come see Washington and really lovely

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Speaker 14: this time of the year, eight hundred National Guards troops

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Speaker 14: have been activated. Their assignment is to aid local law enforcement. Now,

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Speaker 14: this follows the National Guard deployments that we had in

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Speaker 14: Los Angeles a while back to deal with anti Trump protest.

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Speaker 14: At the time, many of those troops found that they

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Speaker 14: were basically sitting on their hands for weeks and weeks.

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Speaker 14: So is this a Trump move to bring sanity back

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Speaker 14: to always democratic cities or is it the ongoing onset

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Speaker 14: of the police state. The White House just said this

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Speaker 14: troop deployment will be re evaluated in thirty days, while

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Speaker 14: Defense Secretary and Group phone chatguru Pete Hegseth was asked

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Speaker 14: how long they will be there.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, weeks, months, what will it take. That's

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Speaker 8: the President's call.

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Speaker 14: As to the need for any of this. The mayor

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Speaker 14: of DC, Muriel Bowser, is saying that the latest numbers

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Speaker 14: show that Washington right now has a thirty year violent

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Speaker 14: crime rate low.

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Speaker 16: She says, I'm going to work every day to make

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Speaker 16: sure it's not a complete disaster.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's another diversion around the Epstein pedophile cover ups.

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Speaker 14: As Congressman Jamie Raskin.

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Speaker 8: This looks to me like an emergency which is manufactured

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Speaker 8: because of a public relations crisis relating to the Epstein.

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Speaker 14: But the White House says they might consider more armed

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Speaker 14: troops in the streets of other cities like Chicago or

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Speaker 14: San Francisco, all in blue states, of course, the cities

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Speaker 14: that are run by Democrats. However, the latest outs show

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Speaker 14: that some of the most violent places in this land

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Speaker 14: are in gun toting red state cities like Memphis and

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Speaker 14: Little Rock and Kansas City and New Orleans. But the

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Speaker 14: Trump team makes no mention of any verse lovely tourist destinations.

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Speaker 2: See your frind of mate, Richard Arnold state side. A

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Speaker 2: couple of things out of America. AOL America on the line.

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Speaker 2: They're going to wind up this service after thirty years.

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Speaker 2: You know the little chirpy sound you used to get this.

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Speaker 2: Fewer than three hundred thousand people left in America now

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Speaker 2: with dial up, compare with three hundred million with broadband.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the memories. Rip. That was the AOL co

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Speaker 2: founder Steve case yesterday. So as of the thirtieth of September,

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Speaker 2: that's over. And I tell you what else is almost over. Kodak.

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Speaker 2: There's a name, Eastman Kodak. They had an earnings report yesterday.

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Speaker 2: They don't have committed financing or available liquidity to pay

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Speaker 2: the half a billion dollar debt that's upcoming. So the

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Speaker 2: substantial quote unquote substantial doubt about the company's ability to

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Speaker 2: continue as a going concern. They're thinking they can conjure

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Speaker 2: up a bit of cash by as ceasing payments to

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Speaker 2: the Retirement pension plan incorporated in eighteen ninety two. The

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Speaker 2: routes actually go back to eighteen seventy nine when George

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Speaker 2: has An Eastman first took out a paytent for a

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Speaker 2: plate coating machine, and then in eighteen eighty eight he

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Speaker 2: sold the first Kodak camera for twenty five dollars. If

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Speaker 2: you ever want to see someone who didn't sort of

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Speaker 2: be evolved with the times, that would be them. And

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Speaker 2: it looks like it's probably coming to an end.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven, it's on Make Cosking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 1: Real Estate news Dogs.

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Speaker 2: Ben I forgot to mention Antoni, EJ and Tony. He's

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Speaker 2: going to be the Bureau of Labor Statistics bloke, replacing

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Speaker 2: the woman he sacked the other day. He's from the

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Speaker 2: Heritage Foundation, which is conservative. He's also he was nominated,

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Speaker 2: among others, by Steve Bannon. He's a contributor to Project

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Speaker 2: twenty five. There is some talk that the monthly job

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Speaker 2: numbers in America will disappear. They don't need to have

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Speaker 2: the monthly especially when they're bad. Surely, Mike, people are

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Speaker 2: selling their houses this wit equal most of them becoming

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Speaker 2: buyers in the market. No Kim, you be surprised. We

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Speaker 2: put a offer in the house the other day and

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Speaker 2: we've had some experience in the last couple of months.

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Speaker 2: The number of people are so depressing. The number of

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Speaker 2: people leaving the country is just unreal. And so no,

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Speaker 2: they don't. It's not a person buying to sell, it's

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Speaker 2: a person buying to leave. Sorry to have to tell

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Speaker 2: you that. By the way, Sugio Perez is they claim

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Speaker 2: this morning been signed by Cadillac, this new F one

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Speaker 2: team that starts twenty twenty six. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: competitive they're going to be, how competitively. I mean, they've

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Speaker 2: got a huge backing obviously being Cadillac, but whether you're

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Speaker 2: competitive on day one or whether it's just desperate for

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Speaker 2: a job or wants to get back in, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the entry point for him is. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: he's been signed. It will be revealed officially at the

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Speaker 2: Italian Grand Prix, which is the seventh of September, comes

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Speaker 2: after week after the Dutch Grand Prix, which is coming

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Speaker 2: up the first of September, so they're on the summer

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Speaker 2: break at the moment.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 2: The problem with that is that Veltrii Botas, who was

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Speaker 2: the hot ticket for Cadillac may not be the hot

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Speaker 2: ticket anymore because the idea or the thinking behind it

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Speaker 2: was that you get somebody experienced. So if it's Perez,

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Speaker 2: it's not Botas, and therefore you get a young rookie.

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Speaker 2: So they're looking at people like Drugovich and a guy

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Speaker 2: called Jack Crawford and Colton Herter, and they maybe Botas

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Speaker 2: ends up at LP because Elpin are looking at Colopento

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Speaker 2: keeps driving his car into the wall. So it's all

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Speaker 2: to playful. So Sergey Perez looks like he's coming back

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Speaker 2: to F one and that looks like it will be

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Speaker 2: revealed in a couple of weeks time five to seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business tiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Well t issue at the start of the show. Job

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Speaker 2: reports out of the UK it's actually not bad. Overall

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Speaker 2: vacancies are down, number of people on the payroll down,

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Speaker 2: so headline, you think that's not good. Job opening twelve

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Speaker 2: five point eight percent. There's seven hundred and eighteen thousand

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Speaker 2: jobs currently available to you in Britain. So this for

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Speaker 2: three months made to July, all industries have been affected

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Speaker 2: by the so called downturn. Now there is an upside.

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Speaker 2: The upside is it's not as bad as they thought

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Speaker 2: it would be. They thought it would be worse. All

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Speaker 2: the so called experts were predicting way worse didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Average wage growth, now listen to this, This is the key.

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Speaker 2: Average wage growth remained at five percent, so that's well

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Speaker 2: above inflation. And I'm assuming the heavy unionization of the

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Speaker 2: British economy. But you can't have fewer jobs and more

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Speaker 2: pay because the people getting to pay a going fantastic,

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Speaker 2: but the people who can't get the job on gating

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Speaker 2: more jobs because you're not creating jobs when you're paying

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Speaker 2: people so much. Anyway, unemployment state at four point seven,

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Speaker 2: which is better than us. In fact, their wage growth

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Speaker 2: is better than us as well. Eight thousand came off

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Speaker 2: the payroll, so it's no one. I mean eight thousand

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Speaker 2: population of sixty six million people. So the job market

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Speaker 2: is calling very, very gradual. There are more than thirty

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Speaker 2: million people actually on a payroll, but the Bay and

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Speaker 2: sees they're at the lowest level since April of twenty

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Speaker 2: one outside the pandemic. The last time with that the

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Speaker 2: low was January of fifteen. So it's as always depends

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Speaker 2: how you read it. So I'm watching Parliament yesterday. Oh

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Speaker 2: they name dropped me in Parliament again. Yesterday Arena Williams, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: Labor MP congratulations. Ginny's question time was a disaster. So

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Speaker 2: I'm going to need to talk to her about that

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Speaker 2: because the week before she'd taken my advice and she

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Speaker 2: asked some good, sharp, short, sharp questions and she had

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Speaker 2: Bishop squirming. Yesterday she fell to pieces. But Arena Williams's

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Speaker 2: names dropped me, name drops me very effective. Bishop had

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Speaker 2: no comeback. So we'll do that. Where was I, David TEMI? Yeah, Chloe?

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Speaker 2: Are we sick and tired of Chloe? How sick? And

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Speaker 2: to hands up everybody if you're sick and tired of Chloe?

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Speaker 2: And so yesterday it came to a bit of a

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Speaker 2: head over Palestine. So we'll love talk to David Timore

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Speaker 2: about that. New rules around the America's Cup, Grant Dalton

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Speaker 2: on that, and Mark and the aforementioned Jinny with Us

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Speaker 2: for Politics Wednesday, after eight.

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Speaker 1: Of the Only report you need to start your day

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Speaker 1: on my costing break, best with Bailey's real estate altogether,

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Speaker 1: better across residential, commercial and rural news. Togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: Only seven past seven, so the police got themselves in

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Speaker 2: another not over Palestine. Yesterday's Warbrick reminded us all yet

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Speaker 2: again that composure and maturity aren't a forte. She got

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Speaker 2: booted from the house. Chris Hipkins tried to make it

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Speaker 2: political by suggesting act of vetoling the government's move to

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Speaker 2: declare statehood. Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour back with us,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning mate. I was watching, as I

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Speaker 2: always do because I'm a tragic but I thought, you

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Speaker 2: point about the scarves is right? What are the rules

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Speaker 2: in Parliament around the scarfs? So she drapes a scarf

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Speaker 2: around the back of a seat, You raise it brownly,

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Speaker 2: goes good point. Suddenly she wraps it around her neck.

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Speaker 2: What's all that about?

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Speaker 17: Well, the point is you're supposed to come to Parliament,

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Speaker 17: set aside all personal and private interest and debate the

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Speaker 17: ideas rather than the person. Our Parliament's evolved a whole

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Speaker 17: lot of rules over the years, actually over hundreds of years,

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Speaker 17: to make sure that you could actually have a debate

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Speaker 17: on the fact, rather than really a circus where people

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Speaker 17: get up and do Harker display banners. You know, you

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Speaker 17: can have that, but it just attracts from the actual

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Speaker 17: discussion of ideas that we're supposed to promote.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, part of the problem with the Palestinian debate, and

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's been as old as time, but you

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Speaker 2: get people, unfortunately like Chloe, who lose the plot. And

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Speaker 2: that's the difficulty of the debate, doesn't You can't have

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Speaker 2: a debate because there'll be someone in the room like

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Speaker 2: her that goes nuts.

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Speaker 17: Well, I thought yesterday, Chloe Swarbrick, we kind of reached peak. Chloe,

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Speaker 17: you had the moral supremacy, just like all extremists, the

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Speaker 17: idea that your cause is so right you don't have

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Speaker 17: to follow the rules. You can just assert it over

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Speaker 17: everybody else, even if it stops the institution functioning. And

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Speaker 17: I just make the point that, you know, how can

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Speaker 17: you call for an international rules based order when you

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Speaker 17: can't follow the basic rules in your own workplace. I mean,

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Speaker 17: she's been a member of Parliament for more than half

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Speaker 17: her life. As far as I can tell, she should

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Speaker 17: be able to on the issues, and if she can't,

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Speaker 17: she should be asking why am I not persuading people?

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Speaker 2: No, should Jerry have back down. I mean he booted

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Speaker 2: her up for the week. Now, if she comes back

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Speaker 2: and says sorry, which I don't know whether she will

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Speaker 2: or not, she can come back today. Is that fair? Yeah?

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Speaker 17: I mean that's usually been the way it works. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 17: you know, you've got to say that the speaker's right,

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Speaker 17: and I support his decision, so I'm not going to

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Speaker 17: comment on whether he should or shouldn't. But basically, you know,

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Speaker 17: the point is to restore order in the house, so

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Speaker 17: if someone's willing to do that, then you should usually

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Speaker 17: allow them.

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Speaker 2: Weird thing with Hipkins yesterday, who's claiming you're vetoing the

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Speaker 2: government recognizing the Palestinian state. Your claim is that harmas

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Speaker 2: need to be demilitarized. Does that indicate that Hipkins is

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Speaker 2: happy for her mask not to be demilitarized and therefore

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Speaker 2: you should get on with it? Is that what I'm

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Speaker 2: reading from what he said?

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean, first of all, Chris Hipkins doesn't know

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Speaker 17: what's happening in cabinet. The people of New Zealand dejected

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Speaker 17: him from cabinet because frankly, he was a bit useful

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Speaker 17: and we're still paying off all the debty racked up

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Speaker 17: among other costs imposed on society. But you know what

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Speaker 17: is happening is the government has said we are going

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Speaker 17: to over the next few weeks come to a position

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Speaker 17: that takes into account all of the facts. It's not

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Speaker 17: as simple as just saying, look, yep, we want to

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Speaker 17: be friends with terrorists tomorrow. There have to be a

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Speaker 17: series of conditions. If his position is just reward terrorism

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Speaker 17: and make friends with Hamas, then that's yet another reason

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Speaker 17: to work out and win the election next year.

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Speaker 2: Here's the weird thing for me as a person that

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Speaker 2: you political classes. I mean, what do you think is

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Speaker 2: going to change here? I mean what literallyg so you today?

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Speaker 2: There we go, we recognize the Palestinian state. What happens nothing.

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Speaker 17: I'm sure that the people in the Middle East, the

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Speaker 17: thing they've really been waiting for for the last four

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Speaker 17: thousand years is for New Zealand to take a position.

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Speaker 17: I mean, come on, it is ultimately a question of

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Speaker 17: New Zealand being comfortable with itself rather than having a

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Speaker 17: material impact on what happens over there. Nonetheless, I think

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Speaker 17: it's important that our country actually does uphold good values,

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Speaker 17: and you don't do that by simply responding to emotion,

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Speaker 17: which I understand. I understand people are seeing this stuff

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Speaker 17: on Instagram, and they're seeing it on TikTok and on

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Speaker 17: the six o'clock news every night.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 17: But the issue is not to be the most sort

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Speaker 17: of virtue signaling person to demonstrate your own moral supremacy

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Speaker 17: by saying that you have a spine. What Chloe really

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Speaker 17: needs to see as a brain so that we can

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Speaker 17: come to a solution that is workable and that respects

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Speaker 17: the rights and values of all the people involved, including

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Speaker 17: of course a democratic country that has been under attack

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Speaker 17: and continues to have its citizens held as hostages. Those

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Speaker 17: facts matter too, and I think if you're prepared to

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Speaker 17: have a proper discussion, you can get to that. But

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Speaker 17: yesterday we saw people who, as you hinted before, arectually

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Speaker 17: sabotaging the ability to do it through their own moral rightelessness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it all right, David Seymour. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Chloe has nothing to add. Mike standing in the middle

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Speaker 2: of my farm, both hands up? Can I put them down?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sick of Chloe might read Chloe, both hands upset down?

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Speaker 2: Put my feet up as well. It was really more

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Speaker 2: of rhetorical question twelve, but thank you anyway, twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven's more insight into the economy you darted from.

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Speaker 2: My ID shows twenty percent of businesses operating at a loss.

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Speaker 2: This is in twenty twenty three. One hundred and seven

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Speaker 2: thousand of them came out of the four hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy five thousand companies we have. By last year, similar trend,

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Speaker 2: another one hundred and seven thousand companies still reporting losses,

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Speaker 2: more than forty percent of those businesses. By the way,

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Speaker 2: in accommodation and food, Chris Small, CEO at ABC Business Sales,

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Speaker 2: is back. Well this Chris, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Mike Key, you doing very well.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, how many businesses run at a loss, will always

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Speaker 2: run at a loss, are a bit useless and that's

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Speaker 2: just life.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, great point. So within those numbers, it is actually

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Speaker 8: a high proportion they actually have no staff, and they

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Speaker 8: actually include things like trusts and property owning companies. So

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Speaker 8: i'd say you're reject to what there's a fair proportion

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Speaker 8: there as you look at previous years, ninety nine thousand

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Speaker 8: that are actually structured in a certain way which will

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Speaker 8: always for tax efficiency reasons show a loss. So I

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Speaker 8: think you spot on there is there.

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Speaker 2: Are variation in sectors. I mean I highlighted accommodation of food.

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Speaker 2: Will some always struggle because of the number of people

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Speaker 2: in that sector.

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Speaker 8: Not necessarily, I mean it's at the moment you exect

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Speaker 8: to write retail, accommodation, and hospitality, which all have a

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Speaker 8: reliant on customer demand or consition of spending. As we

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Speaker 8: all know where in a cost of living crisis, so

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Speaker 8: consumers are spending less. So in particular, those are your

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Speaker 8: sectors again hit the hardest. But no, there's no reason

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Speaker 8: why those sectors can't make money. Well, I would say

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Speaker 8: is certain sectors have tax efficiency structures, so when they

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Speaker 8: come and see us, for example, it's often that sersion

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Speaker 8: sectors are showing a loss from a text perspective, but

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Speaker 8: when you beck out certain private costs or other costs

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Speaker 8: that are in there, they actually are showing a profit.

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Speaker 8: So there's a few complexities within.

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Speaker 2: Those those losing money. How does that dovetail into sales

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Speaker 2: and demand for sales of businesses?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, good, good question. So I did a bit of

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Speaker 8: analysis before before came on. So at the moment, still

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Speaker 8: ninety percent of people who who are coming to see

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Speaker 8: us are making a profit so ap. Probably one in

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Speaker 8: ten are showing a paper loss is the sort of

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Speaker 8: ratio we're seeing it the way, which which is a

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Speaker 8: good sign. So we've still got we're seeing ninety percent

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Speaker 8: of small and medium sized enterprises than is YNE are

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Speaker 8: still making a profit when they come and see us

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Speaker 8: and want to put their business on the market.

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Speaker 2: Good good insight. As always, Chris appreciated ABC Business Sales

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Speaker 2: whist speaking which roughly round about I told you it

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Speaker 2: would happen to am Z yesterday on the mortgage rates,

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Speaker 2: BE and Z today they'll all follow suit what I do.

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Speaker 2: Note interestingly with BNZ this morning, they're down on the

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Speaker 2: three year fixed. They've gone below five percent. It's only

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Speaker 2: ten bases points down, but that psychological below five percent,

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Speaker 2: say three the two years, four eight nine, eighteen, four

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Speaker 2: seven nine, they're all much of a much. Don't tell

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Speaker 2: Nicola because she'll accuse them of having no competition. Fifteen

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Speaker 2: past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At be Grant Dalton on these new cuveralls. Shortly seventeen

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Speaker 2: past seven, So back to the gas crisis. We got

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Speaker 2: to hint to this on the show yesterday as the

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Speaker 2: calls growth for the government to do something to help

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Speaker 2: business tackle the price and lack of gas. So the

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Speaker 2: Green Building Council entered yesterday. They argue heat pumps might help.

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Speaker 2: There are potential savings for the country, they claim of

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Speaker 2: one and a half billion. Andrew Eagles is the CEO

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Speaker 2: of the Green Building councilors with us Andrew Morning Morning.

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Speaker 2: So part of you thinking is banning new connections and

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Speaker 2: phasing out. Do you do that on a climate argument

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Speaker 2: or do you because I just worry about the riskers.

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Speaker 2: If we discovered more gas, we'd solve our problem, and

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Speaker 2: we don't know that isn't going to happen. Therefore, by

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Speaker 2: banning new connections, you might be biting yourself for the

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Speaker 2: future years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that. I guess what we're seeing

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Speaker 3: is a hollowing out of New Zealand industry in jobs.

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Speaker 3: So at two hundred and thirty jobs, the biggest employer

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Speaker 3: we're a pay who one thousand staff Winstance at Winston

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Speaker 3: Polp scaling down, and then great businesses like fertilizer provider

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Speaker 3: in my great region of Taranaki at Kipuni, scaling about

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteen people. So people are leaving job losses,

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Speaker 3: hollowing out communities because they just can't afford the gas.

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Speaker 3: And what we've got is an opportunity to potentially free

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Speaker 3: that up from a sector that doesn't actually need it,

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Speaker 3: so where we can move into electrifying homes and buildings,

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Speaker 3: you know, we can free that up for industry so

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Speaker 3: they have more certainty and more availability. And it's pretty sizable.

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Speaker 3: So if nothing changes, it's unlikely that we find something

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Speaker 3: in the next five years. Right, the average time ten

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Speaker 3: to sixteen years to find and then bring it on

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Speaker 3: for production. So if we look at that, like twenty

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Speaker 3: thirty twenty six percent of all the gas we're using

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Speaker 3: homes and buildings, and then by twenty thirty five it's

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Speaker 3: fifty percent. So our six is just saying, look, it's

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Speaker 3: actually healthier, it's lower cost, and it's more efficient if

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Speaker 3: we don't use that, and that makes it available for industry,

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Speaker 3: keeping our jobs and government income receipts from text and

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Speaker 3: keeping our communities alive.

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Speaker 13: Right, we want to keep.

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Speaker 3: Those jobs, and we want to keep the exports in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. So that's an opportunity. I just putting your

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Speaker 3: hand up and saying we can contribute.

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Speaker 2: All right, good on you Andrew appreciate it. We'll get

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Speaker 2: you back on another time for a longer discussion about this,

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Speaker 2: because of course the argument is that heat pump is

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Speaker 2: And of course then you get to the business and

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Speaker 2: to do seem more or mom ago Chris Hipkins seven

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Speaker 2: twenty three. By the way, Chris Hipkins came on, well

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Speaker 2: became undone. I thought yesterday two times and you would

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Speaker 2: hope given this literally no pressure on him right now,

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Speaker 2: and basically he gets to spend his days begging the government.

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Speaker 2: He might want to sharpen up a bit, given next

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Speaker 2: year is going to be a whole different kettle of

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Speaker 2: fish so mistake number one. He attempted to gain points

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Speaker 2: on Palestine by suggesting David Seymour was holding the government

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Speaker 2: to some sort of ransom and if it wasn't for

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Speaker 2: the veto, they would have declared support for statehood by now.

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Speaker 2: Now what Seymour said was ha Mass would need to

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Speaker 2: be demilitarized. Now, apart from the fact that's not radical

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Speaker 2: or new or an already widely held view by many

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Speaker 2: who want to recognize Palestine, what is it hipkins are

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Speaker 2: saying he doesn't mind he Mass or Hamas being a

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Speaker 2: terror group? Would he be happy with the two state

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Speaker 2: solution with Hamas at the control panel? If he does,

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Speaker 2: no problem? Say so, bet you we won't. Though, Mistake

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Speaker 2: number two, for reasons best known to himself, he got

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Speaker 2: trapped into a discussion about his tax policy. What tax

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Speaker 2: policy you're asking exactly, But he somehow managed to suggest

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Speaker 2: that even though there isn't a tax policy, what there

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Speaker 2: is is broad agreement around a wealth tax and a

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Speaker 2: capital gainst tax. And then the bullet in the foot

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Speaker 2: he couldn't rule in or route the possibility that the

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Speaker 2: family home was part of that tax capture. Now tip

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Speaker 2: one drop the Middle East no voters moved in this

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Speaker 2: country on a place that has been at a disasters own

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Speaker 2: for decades. And the more you look like you tolerate terrorists,

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Speaker 2: the more you put Middle New Zealand off you. Then

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Speaker 2: mistake number two. If you're stupid enough to even hint

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Speaker 2: that a family home could be part of a new tax,

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Speaker 2: give up right now because you toast. As history shows,

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Speaker 2: a CGT with a family home exempt has been trialed

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Speaker 2: and rejected multiple times by his own party. Irony of ironies,

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Speaker 2: it was Hopkins himself, with the Captain's call that dropped

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Speaker 2: it last time. So not only is he clearly not

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Speaker 2: committed or convinced, he seemingly may have been hijacked by

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Speaker 2: some left leaning radicals inside his own camp to get

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Speaker 2: the family home involved. So a party that can tolerate

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Speaker 2: him us and tax your family home, what could possibly

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Speaker 2: go wrong? Paskingccurning Mike as a previous supporter of the Greens,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you the dismay I'm feeling regarding this

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Speaker 2: new incarnation of the Greens. Yes, I support the Palestinians,

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Speaker 2: but I also support trun feed my family and look

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Speaker 2: after the environment, two things you simply don't hear them

945
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Speaker 2: talk about anymore. It's not a bad point, loot. They

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Speaker 2: are very exercised and energized about issues that really, on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis, have no great impact on most New Zealanders. Mike,

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Speaker 2: can you pass on to David Seymour that a huge

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Speaker 2: amount of New Zealanders are feeling the shame his government

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Speaker 2: can't join all those other countries recognizing gaza And by

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Speaker 2: the way, Gaza is not spelt garza. But when you

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Speaker 2: say the shame, the shame of what, what is it?

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Speaker 2: You want? What is it? What's the point? Are you

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Speaker 2: literally just wanting us to join a queue of people

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Speaker 2: who have done the same thing. So you like tokenism,

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Speaker 2: you're a fan of tokenism. I mean, declare it if

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Speaker 2: you want. I couldn't kill I honestly couldn't care less.

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Speaker 2: I mean this has been going on literally for decades,

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Speaker 2: or if you want to broaden the discussion out for hundreds,

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Speaker 2: if not thousands of years. Nothing essentially has changed and

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's standing there going. We recognize pell Steiner's estate

962
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Speaker 2: will make not one jot of difference to anything. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: in a country with a vast wealth of really important

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Speaker 2: issues to deal with why do we keep getting angsty

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Speaker 2: and exercising about it? I have no idea neurals for

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Speaker 2: the America's Cup. Grant Dalton shortly got a thing that

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Speaker 2: is a thing. It's a world first in an area

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Speaker 2: you thought, Nah, we've already got those wine callers. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. Got a wine caller that is I think

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Speaker 2: actually quite cool. So that's before rape.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Vita, Retirement Communities, Life, Your Way News, togs

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Speaker 1: Head been twenty three.

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Speaker 2: To a like big rule changes of course coming to

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Speaker 2: the next America's Cup in twenty seven and Napoli. One

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Speaker 2: female will be part of the crew. Batteries will replace

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Speaker 2: Manuel p. We've got a cost cap of one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty seven million. Also, the two non nationals will

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Speaker 2: be allowed to sail on board. That's the Burling rule,

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Speaker 2: of course. Grant dot As Team New Zealand, Stith Executive

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Speaker 2: with us your Morning Morning Maker and so on a

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Speaker 2: scale of one to ten, ten you're delirious. How happy

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Speaker 2: are you with this?

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Speaker 13: Seven and a half. It's been a pretty tough deal.

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Speaker 13: It's been a pretty torrid six months getting this across

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Speaker 13: the line. But I guess anything that's worth doing not

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Speaker 13: necessarily easy.

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Speaker 2: Was a gun held your head? Did they want all

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Speaker 2: of these changes and they were insistent on it.

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Speaker 13: There was a split on that. There was sort of

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Speaker 13: one side that was trying to use the gun tactic,

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Speaker 13: which is one of the reasons it took so long

993
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Speaker 13: because that doesn't work. Negotiating with a gun doesn't work.

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Speaker 13: Then there was the other sort of side of challenges

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Speaker 13: that were completely on board with everything that we were

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Speaker 13: trying to achieve. So really, in some ways they had

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Speaker 13: to marginalize the gun holders before you could make progress,

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Speaker 13: and really the progress only moved at pace in the

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Speaker 13: last month. But there was a lot to negotiate, a

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Speaker 13: lot of change, and people are focusing on sort of

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Speaker 13: the things that are obvious and good too, like you

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Speaker 13: women on the boat. But the big change, the seismic move,

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Speaker 13: is that the America's Cup will move from this boom

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Speaker 13: bus cycle into a more even cycle where it can

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Speaker 13: be planned. We can start planning for twenty nine now, right.

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Speaker 2: So it just strikes me there's a lot of change here.

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Speaker 2: Has the stuff been bubbling and all kind of came

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Speaker 2: to a head. Hence it appears slightly more dramatic than

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Speaker 2: it has previously.

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Speaker 13: No, no, this is more dramatic than it has been previously.

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Speaker 13: And the agreement that we made signed yesterday to move

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Speaker 13: the America's Cup from a defended, totally dominated environment which

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Speaker 13: has been for one hundred and seventy four years work

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00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 13: quite nicely to a more even partnership is that's a

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Speaker 13: big deal. And you know, as the three times winners

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Speaker 13: of the Cup and the Royal New Jian yacht Squadron

1017
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Speaker 13: is a trustee, You've got to decide whether in fifty

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Speaker 13: years time people are going to think that you know,

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00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 13: you're the ones that screwed it up, or whether it's

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Speaker 13: a good idea.

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Speaker 2: One forty seven million does that limit you in a

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Speaker 2: way that you might regret.

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Speaker 13: It's a very funny thing, this budget cap. I always

1024
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Speaker 13: have a bit of a giggle when they talk about

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Speaker 13: seventy five million euros. I'd love to be able to

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Speaker 13: spend seventy five million euros. So any cost cap is

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Speaker 13: an absolute advantage to Team New Zealand because we couldn't

1028
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Speaker 13: spend that if we tried, well, probably I'm sure we

1029
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 13: could if we tried, so cost caps are very much

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Speaker 13: something that we've been in favor of to knock out.

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Speaker 13: That's sort one hundred and fifty million euro budgets that

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Speaker 13: some of these teams spend because we just have always

1033
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Speaker 13: been at least half of anybody else.

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Speaker 2: So this is an advantage to us females with a

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Speaker 2: view to what what's the point? It's not a bad idea,

1036
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Speaker 2: but what's the point?

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Speaker 13: Well, I've been meanwhil diversity inclusion is a point all

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Speaker 13: on its own, So I don't think there's anybody on

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Speaker 13: the planet. I think that's a bad idea. I've always

1040
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Speaker 13: been a bit and honestly, the challenge of record was

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Speaker 13: the same. We couldn't decide whether we should mandate or not,

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Speaker 13: because there's a whole argument of females on the boat

1043
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Speaker 13: would feel more as though they should be there if

1044
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Speaker 13: they could earn their place, But we didn't really have

1045
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Speaker 13: a mechanism to get necessarily from the Woman's America's cup

1046
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Speaker 13: directly to the boat without the mandate, and so in

1047
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Speaker 13: balance we decided it was the right thing to do.

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Speaker 13: But the point simply is the world is moving and

1049
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Speaker 13: it's good. It's good for marketing as well that we

1050
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Speaker 13: need to move with the times.

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Speaker 2: Most importantly, for a person like media follows this, does

1052
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Speaker 2: it help entries? I mean, does the event get more

1053
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Speaker 2: people involved? Therefore it becomes more exciting.

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Speaker 13: The America's Cup, to me, has never been about twinky entries.

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Speaker 13: It's not that game. I mean, it's a technology race

1056
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Speaker 13: which is hard to win and that hasn't changed. It's

1057
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Speaker 13: not suddenly about to be very easy to win. The

1058
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Speaker 13: best team will sort of win, but it should promote

1059
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Speaker 13: more entries. It does do is to drive value into

1060
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Speaker 13: the teams in the way that a franchise will grow

1061
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Speaker 13: use formula one. I mean, the value and the increase

1062
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Speaker 13: in those teams has been dramatic. So I think ultimately

1063
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Speaker 13: that's one of its massive advantages of making it. You

1064
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Speaker 13: can see what you're getting. You don't know that in

1065
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Speaker 13: two years time it's all going to change. Leonarso got one,

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Speaker 13: the next one and it would have changed. No one

1067
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Speaker 13: might have changed. So I think with driving value, it

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Speaker 13: helps investment. Investment helps more entries.

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Speaker 2: And what about tech and design? By the time we

1070
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Speaker 2: get to Naples and twenty seven, is it radically different

1071
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Speaker 2: or are we at such a cutting edge it's money?

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Speaker 13: No, it won't be radically different, but for sure it

1073
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Speaker 13: will be different. I mean it just never stops. And

1074
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Speaker 13: our guys, you know, we've got twenty five guys just

1075
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Speaker 13: flatstick working on tech now and that's a big difference

1076
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Speaker 13: with the Cup in any other part of the sport.

1077
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Speaker 13: That this is the technology race and you never want

1078
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Speaker 13: to lose that. That's one of the intrigues. That's what

1079
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Speaker 13: people like. It fascinates people that the cutting edge and

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Speaker 13: the development and we are the you're the test bed

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Speaker 13: of the future, and that as a part of the

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Speaker 13: Cup that I would never have changed.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm good to catch up Grant Dalton, the

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Speaker 2: head of Team New Zealand. Of course, new news from

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00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: Willow Gene Prime from the Willa. We think we're probably

1086
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: going to have to open a Willow Gene Prime file.

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Speaker 21: Can we call it prime Time?

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00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: Very good Glynn More shortly eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Vike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio now

1090
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: ad by the News Talks, it'd be.

1091
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: You've beaten Glenn. Sorry, the subprime vortex that wins so

1092
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: not time. Little tracometer, by the way, Ain's Instra cometer.

1093
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: I love the Trochometer he heavy traffic movements. That's measuring

1094
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: current activity. It's up one point eight percent for July.

1095
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 2: Good good, good, up two point eight percent on last year.

1096
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: Excellent light traffic, which is sort of looking six months ahead.

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Speaker 2: That's up one point four percent in July, zero point

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00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: nine percent on last year. Both up and will take

1099
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: both measures right. It is time for a time. So

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00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: the new one from Willow Jane is she claimed that

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00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: fight clubs and significant meth use was going on in

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00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: youth justice facilities. Big claim from Willow Gene crime fight

1103
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 2: clubs and significant meth use in youth justice facilities. Karen Chhaw,

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00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: Minister in charge, is asked for more information. However, none

1105
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: of it can be substantiated by Orangatamariki officials the Children's Commission,

1106
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: who independently monitor the facilities, are also unaware of meth

1107
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: in the residences and hadn't heard of fight clubs at

1108
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: all since twenty twenty three, which of course was when

1109
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: Labor were in charge. So maybe when they were in

1110
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 2: charge there were some fight clubs and some meth use. Anyway,

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00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: so Karen Shaw says, we'll give us the deats. Willow

1112
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: Gene hope. She did an email her because that's going

1113
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: to take a long time. She's give me the deeps,

1114
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: Willow Jene, but prime she's been unable to provide anything

1115
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: other than saying her concerns were based on information from

1116
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: a credible source.

1117
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 21: With the Fight Club reference. Is this just a case

1118
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 21: of Willow Jane being the credible source and she's gone

1119
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 21: off to ask herself just much the same way that

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00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 21: Edward Norton was talking to himself the whole time in

1121
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 21: Fight Club.

1122
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: At what point does Chris Hapkin start shaking his head

1123
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: or put his head in his hands and going no, no, no,

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00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: no no.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Funnily enough, yesterday Willow Jean, who's normally fronted up for

1127
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: some questions in question time, Wasn't there no questions from

1128
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: Willow Jane yesterday? So I wonder if she's been benched

1129
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: because she's become a little bit embarrassing. Can I just

1130
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 2: say the best story of yesterday was for me anyway?

1131
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: And I don't know whether it's just because I'm from

1132
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: christ Church, but the resurrection of Noah's Noah's Hotel is

1133
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: just it is. It's as integral part of christ Church

1134
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: is Cathedral Square. In fact, it's down the road from

1135
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: Cathedral Square. But if there's one building that needed doing,

1136
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: apart from obviously the cathedral, it was the shell of

1137
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: a building that was once knows Noah's was the hotel

1138
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: in christ Church. It was where all the Flash people stayed.

1139
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: It was the Flash hotel in christ Church back in

1140
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: the days when you're growing up in christ Church. That

1141
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: would be where if you had any money, you would

1142
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: go and stay at Noah's Hotel. Anyway, badly damaged Cambridge

1143
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: Terraces a beautiful part of christ Church. If you're on

1144
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: one of those top floors, you could look out and

1145
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: get it just the most glorious view. And so the

1146
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 2: announcement yesterday is it's going to be a five star

1147
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: Sheraton one hundred and fifty million dollars rebuild. Is there

1148
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: anything that's negative going on in christ Church at the moment?

1149
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: Is it all just continual sort of an avalanche of

1150
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 2: good news. So the Marriott who are Sheratan, they're going

1151
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: to develop it and it's going to be opened by

1152
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, which is quite something I would have thought,

1153
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: if not a miracle, the way we build things in

1154
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: this country. Anyway, tw hundred forty rooms or suit's got

1155
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 2: a restaurant, got a rooftop bar, got a bent spaces,

1156
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: got a gym. It's got it all going on. And

1157
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: I've got to say that christ Church spending a bit

1158
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: of time there, it's short of decent hotels. We stay

1159
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: at the George, which is a lovely hotel. It's an

1160
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: old hotel that's right across the road from the park.

1161
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: That's a good hotel to stay at. We've tried the Mayfair.

1162
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: Disappointed in the Mayfair. A new hotel, nice cafe, a

1163
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: lot of people go there for coffee in the morning.

1164
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: But we bought a flash room at the Mayfair and

1165
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: it overlooked some dumpsters and I thought, that's not what

1166
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: you get for a flash room. I'm not looking at

1167
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: a car park of dumpsters, for goodness sake. And we

1168
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 2: tried the Observatory last time. The Observatory is downtown as well.

1169
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: Nice architecture, but the classic problem of a hotel that's

1170
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: been wedged into a heritage building, because you can't touch

1171
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: the heritage building. So we ended up in the top room.

1172
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 2: Because that's the sort of person I am. I said,

1173
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: get us, Katie Boss, so get us the top room

1174
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: and I won't tell you what we paid because it's embarrassing. Anyway,

1175
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: we got a top room, which was at the top anyway,

1176
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: turns out guess what. Guess what you get in the

1177
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: top room of the Observatory Hotel in christ Church. No windows,

1178
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: no windows, You cannot see out of your room. It's

1179
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: like a prison cell. But it did have skylights, which

1180
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: was no good because when we arrived it was duck

1181
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: and it was cloudy, and it was a cloudy.

1182
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 21: Night, like an inside cabin on a cruise ship.

1183
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: It was very much like an inside cavin on a

1184
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: cruise ship. So anyway, christ you to need Noah's back.

1185
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: So I'm excited about that.

1186
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: Turn away from it, The Mike Hoski Breakfast with a

1187
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Speaker 1: Vita Retirement Communities News Togsdad bes.

1188
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: Shiven away from a success story out of Taranaki startup

1189
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: Husky has hit multimillion dollar profits with their world first

1190
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: wine cooler tech. So it's an ice free coller keeps

1191
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: the champagne coll for up to six hours. They've just

1192
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: secured the largest commercial export order to the UK for

1193
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: seventy six thousand units now. Simon hiss A is the

1194
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: co founder of Husky and he's well the simon, very

1195
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: good morning to you.

1196
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 22: Good morning, thanks mate.

1197
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 2: Well done blah. But I've had a look this morning.

1198
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: It's a good looking thing. What I like most of

1199
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: all no condensation, because you think the moment you get

1200
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: cold and condensation all over the table does not. Is

1201
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: it magic or what is it?

1202
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 22: The technology has actually been around over one hundred years.

1203
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 22: It works in the same way that like a thermos

1204
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 22: strink bottle works, but nobody has just turned it around

1205
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 22: and kind of used it for wine. With the right

1206
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 22: kind of design, you can put it on and because

1207
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 22: it keeps the keeps all the cold inside of the

1208
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 22: great job of inti lating, you don't get it cold

1209
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 22: on the outside, so you don't.

1210
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: Get it cold. It's got the bottle's got a start cold,

1211
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: so the thermic idea the bottle must start cold and

1212
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: it will hold its coldness. Is that right?

1213
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 13: It's it.

1214
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 22: So you pull the cold bottle from We wanted it

1215
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 22: to be super simple. So you pull the cold bottle

1216
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 22: from the fridge, You grab the husky off the shelf,

1217
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 22: which is root temperature. You put the bottle in the husky,

1218
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 22: You screw on the lid and it doesn't matter what

1219
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 22: size bottle it is, if it's an Alstairs or a

1220
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 22: Burgundy or a Bordeaux style bottle, you screw on the

1221
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 22: lid and that's it. That's all you have to do.

1222
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 22: Then you pop it on the table, you pull your

1223
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 22: glass of wine with your friends, you notice that their

1224
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 22: glasses of wine are you know, are half full or empty,

1225
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 22: and you unscrew the lid and you top it up.

1226
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 22: You don't have to kind of go back and forward

1227
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 22: to the fridge, or you don't have to deal with

1228
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 22: a nice bucket and condensation.

1229
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: So you don't have to cool it in the first place.

1230
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: Lots of patents around this or no.

1231
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 23: Not really, because the base technology has been around for

1232
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 23: so long, all of those ones have run out, and

1233
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 23: then our using it for wine was relatively new, so

1234
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 23: there wasn't anything that kind of existed in that space.

1235
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 22: And then we revolved the product. The Wine Caller was

1236
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 22: the first one, and then the Champagne Caller, which one

1237
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 22: the Red Dot Design Award has the integrated bottle stop

1238
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 22: in the bottom because you've got bubbles with sparkling wine.

1239
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 22: There's another innovation on it, which so we were able

1240
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 22: to want to do a pattern.

1241
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: On that whause they are quite style of shaann't they.

1242
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: I mean that's as important as anything I think, isn't it.

1243
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 22: I think it's critical. Like when we were designing it,

1244
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 22: especially for wine, there's rituals and romance and everything around that,

1245
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 22: and we were conscious that we're going to build a

1246
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 22: product or create a product for this. It's going to

1247
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 22: sit in somebody's table. It has to look really good,

1248
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 22: it has to perform really well. So yeah, that was

1249
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 22: that was super important for us. It had to match

1250
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 22: the kind of environment.

1251
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: Seventy six thousand units, so you've got that many units.

1252
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot of units.

1253
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 22: It was more than we'd produced in the entire year proceeding,

1254
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 22: so it was it was a big work for us.

1255
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 22: But yeah, we were confident we could make it happen.

1256
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 22: We've got really good production partners and were landing on

1257
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 22: the shores in the UK at the moment. And I

1258
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 22: can't take it up for because they'll be under Christmas trees.

1259
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: I think somewhere. Well, well, I love a good success

1260
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: story and well done. Congratulations on that salmon. Who's a

1261
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: husky is the name of the company, and he seems

1262
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: to it's so just to explain, just so you're not

1263
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: it's not in the fridge. It's yes, Husky's wine call

1264
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: has been around for years, but you've got to cool

1265
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: them down first so they stay cool to keep the

1266
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: wine call. This isn't cool. I know because I've got

1267
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: a thermi size baughter thermis when my hot water tap

1268
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: and this my thermist will keep the bottle cool as well,

1269
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: except because it's got a little hole at won't keep

1270
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: put a bottle in, so it just keeps liquid. And

1271
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: so that's just.

1272
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 21: A keep me having to pour your wine in there

1273
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 21: with a funnel, haven't you precisely?

1274
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: No one's caught me yet when everyone thinks it's water

1275
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: news for you in a couple of moments. Then as

1276
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Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell and Jinny Anders.

1277
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking insightful, engaging and vital the my casking Breakfast

1278
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: with Range Rover leading by example, News togsadv.

1279
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: You make the.

1280
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: Lobby card six here.

1281
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 6: How you look.

1282
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to work out who this sounds like,

1283
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: because the woman who it is I've never heard of.

1284
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: So I try to good boy Molly Tuttle, which is

1285
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: a cool name, isn't it? What do you like to

1286
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: call Molly Tuttle? I mean not if you're a boy, obviously,

1287
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: but if you're a Molly Tuttle. So long little Miss

1288
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: Sunshine as the name of the album, it's out this Friday.

1289
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: Before her headline Saturday Night, said at the four day

1290
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: Green Mountain Bluegrass and Roots Festival in Manchester Center, I

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Speaker 2: don't know where that is. I know what country it's in.

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Speaker 21: General, Well that's Manche, I'd say often Nancy to Win,

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Speaker 21: it be Manchester, Boston. I'm just gissing, okay.

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Speaker 2: Fifth full length album follows two records with her Quintech

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Speaker 2: Golden Highway. She's California born, aren't they all? But Nashville based,

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Speaker 2: aren't they all? Anyway? We get to the promotion you

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Speaker 2: really need, which is on the twelve tracks forty six

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Speaker 2: minutes of Molly Tupple. It is aimed a fast day

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Speaker 2: time for politics Wednesday, and Ginny Anders is with us,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you, good morning, and Mirk Mitchell's

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Speaker 2: with us from Mark A very good morning.

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Speaker 5: To you, morning morning, Mike, Molly.

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Speaker 2: Now, Ginny, what happened yesterday?

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Speaker 15: I got up tea and coffee. The stretchers, my stretchers,

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Speaker 15: just for the record, yoga yoga.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just for the record, Just for the record, no

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Speaker 2: money has ever exchanged hands. So my advice to you

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Speaker 2: is free and it's it's and I'm agnostic on parties

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Speaker 2: on the so I'm happy to help anybody. But if

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Speaker 2: I am going to help you, Ginny, you've got to

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Speaker 2: follow my advice. And I just I didn't like what

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Speaker 2: I saw yesterday and fair enough, and things went awry,

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Speaker 2: didn't they?

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Speaker 15: Well, I thought, you know, there was there were some

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Speaker 15: good moments in there. There were some highlights for me.

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Speaker 15: I'm not speaking for both of us clearly, but there

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Speaker 15: are a few high high points for me.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, Mike, she completely departed from your advice.

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Speaker 5: Bush was on fire and completely totally Question Time go

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Speaker 5: back and watch.

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Speaker 15: He got pretty angry again if that was the fire,

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Speaker 15: he got pretty florry.

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Speaker 3: Well angry.

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Speaker 2: Let me show you how it's done. Listen, listen, listen

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Speaker 2: to what I regard as the highlight of Question Time

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Speaker 2: yesterday when.

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Speaker 16: The Minister listened to Mike Costking who said that nickol

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Speaker 16: Willis's super Marc announcement was quote get another diatribe about

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Speaker 16: what needs to be done, What could be done and

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Speaker 16: what might be done? Quote a speech have hopeless contradictions

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Speaker 16: and quote for a government with an image of more

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Speaker 16: talk than action. She didn't do anything to help that reputation.

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Speaker 2: Now what did Bishop do apart from go red in

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Speaker 2: the face and he had nowhere to go?

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Speaker 15: Did he?

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Speaker 2: Ginny?

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Speaker 15: Well, I think you just need to criticize the government

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Speaker 15: more and then we'll get some great quotes to be

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Speaker 15: able to use again question time. It's a win one situation.

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Speaker 5: What I like, the only stick they've got to lean

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Speaker 5: on an opposition, as you like when they when they

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Speaker 5: when they failed to take the advice that you're helpfully

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Speaker 5: giving them, they have a complete disaster in the house.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do because what I liked

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Speaker 2: about it actually, and you can pass this on. I

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Speaker 2: don't know Rena from a bar of soap, but please

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Speaker 2: pass it on her delivery, because when Brooke quoted me

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, she butchered it, whereas Arena

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Speaker 2: just delivered it beautifully.

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Speaker 15: And can you as good in the house. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 15: pass it on. I'll pass it on. She's probably already listening,

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Speaker 15: but I'll make sure she hears by passing it on

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Speaker 15: when I see it.

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Speaker 2: No, that was high quality stuff. Do we want to

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Speaker 2: talk about Palestine because I'm so over and I just

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Speaker 2: don't know Mark from your side of the equation, and

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Speaker 2: don't tell me what happened. But I mean, so you

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Speaker 2: declear Palestina state for what.

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Speaker 5: So basically that is I'm not going to comment on that.

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Speaker 5: That is a decision for the foreignerists and the Prime

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Speaker 5: ministers to work through, and they've been thoughtful about how

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Speaker 5: they do that. Our primary concern at the moment is

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Speaker 5: getting aid into Gaza to make sure that people are

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Speaker 5: actually getting the basics that they need. It's obviously a

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Speaker 5: tragedy on every level. But the work that I've been

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Speaker 5: doing is ethnic Communities Minister is quite simply putting a

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Speaker 5: piece of cord together that we signed at Government House

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Speaker 5: two weeks ago with our Muslim and Jewish leaders to

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Speaker 5: make sure that the conflict that we currently set whatness

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Speaker 5: scene around the world, not just Israel and Gaza, but

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Speaker 5: the global conflict doesn't wash up on our shores here

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Speaker 5: in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: No, well it hasn't so far, see Jinny. I mean,

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Speaker 2: as altruistic as it may seem, what's the point of

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Speaker 2: doing stuff that makes no difference.

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Speaker 15: Well, how do we know that? I mean we know that.

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Speaker 2: Because one hundred and fifty countries have already done it.

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Speaker 15: Well that the important point, I believe is that we

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Speaker 15: need to take united stand against what we're seeing, which

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Speaker 15: is children dying from starvation.

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Speaker 2: I think that's separate to declaring statehood.

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Speaker 15: Yes, but if it can go some way to try

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Speaker 15: and stop there.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't destruction of life.

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Speaker 15: But well, if there's a hope there, I think there's

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Speaker 15: worth while trying to instead of just standing back and living.

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Speaker 8: The point is.

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Speaker 5: Hamas, and you don't want to don't to want to

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Speaker 5: address Hamas for some reason, who are a terrorist group,

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Speaker 5: who are responsible for the awful tech on Israel on

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Speaker 5: seventh October and the atrocities that occurred there that sparked

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Speaker 5: this conflict. And also they've got a whole heap of

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Speaker 5: hostages that haven't been released and returned yet, so that

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Speaker 5: issue has to be dealt with as well. I agree

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Speaker 5: with you. The humanitarian disaster up you is awful. The

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Speaker 5: international community should be doing everything we do can do

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Speaker 5: to get aid into there. We all know that it

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Speaker 5: needs a two state solution that quite simply is going

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Speaker 5: to be put together by the leadership of the Palestine,

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Speaker 5: the Palestinian people and the Israeli people. Well, in the

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Speaker 5: long term years, those are the only two.

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Speaker 15: I mean, that's the point, isn't it. Mark That Yes,

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Speaker 15: I completely agree with you that we need a two

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Speaker 15: state solution, but what we're seeing over there right now

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Speaker 15: isn't looking like.

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Speaker 2: That is national and so we need more.

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Speaker 15: And that is the point of standing together united as

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Speaker 15: it puts as much pressure as possible for a two

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Speaker 15: state solution to occur.

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Speaker 2: All right, we all want to.

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Speaker 5: Make a state solution. But I'm just all I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 5: is this Having lived up there for twelve years, some

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Speaker 5: of my closest friends are Arabs. I lived in the

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Speaker 5: Middle East for twelve years. I've got a pretty good

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Speaker 5: feeling about what's going on, about what the locals think

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Speaker 5: about it. And that is quite simply that, yes, everyone

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Speaker 5: wants a two state solution. No one can see a

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Speaker 5: peaceful outcome for the Middle East until there is a

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Speaker 5: two state solution. But the two groups that are going

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Speaker 5: to drive that is a responsible Palestinian voted in by

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Speaker 5: the Pillaston's responsible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the problem though. Every time they vote,

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Speaker 2: they vote for our mass. Let's not dig ourselves a

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Speaker 2: big enough whole. Do you want to talk about Willow Jean?

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Speaker 2: Right after the break, Jinny, why not cool? It's fourteen

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Speaker 2: past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks, will be sixteen past. Jenny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Weather's just for just a programming note, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: are you under the weather?

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Speaker 15: I am a little bit yes.

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Speaker 2: Is there something going around? Because as listened to Bishop

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Speaker 2: yesterday in the house, he sounded under the weather as well.

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Speaker 2: Is there is there a bug all over the place?

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Speaker 5: It flew some sort of flu going around.

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Speaker 15: At the moment, we had like a sort of a

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Speaker 15: three week sitting session and then a recess where we

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Speaker 15: all went a lot to play for our for outside anyway.

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Speaker 15: I went from Auckland to Queens Sound to christ Church

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Speaker 15: and Becky Game and then you're back into a sitting session.

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Speaker 15: So I think at times like that, where you just

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Speaker 15: keep going and it's winter, you just get exposed to

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Speaker 15: thinking about run.

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Speaker 2: Okay, would that be Willow Jene Prime's excuse for not

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Speaker 2: answering the email.

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Speaker 15: Well, I think we've covered that one well and good

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Speaker 15: that she stated that she could have communicated better in

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Speaker 15: that space.

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Speaker 2: And so what do you like her? She seems lazy,

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Speaker 2: not to put too fine a point on it, I like.

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Speaker 15: You very much and know she's definitely not. She works

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Speaker 15: incredibly hard and she's been working really well in that

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Speaker 15: education portfolio. Take a good look at the areas well

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Speaker 15: to really understand why are we taking six weeks to

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Speaker 15: consult on a major overhaul.

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Speaker 2: But the weird thing was too she was out there

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Speaker 2: talking to a sector and she said, I'm talking with

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Speaker 2: the sector. I'm talking with the sector, and what the

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Speaker 2: sector is telling me is there's too much secrecy going on.

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Speaker 2: So surely at that point you'd go, well, I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what sector. I'm going to go talk to my

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Speaker 2: friend Erica. Who's gonna who's invited me to tell me

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Speaker 2: all about it, wouldn't you instead of saying that secret.

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Speaker 15: I hear what you're saying. But let me be very clear,

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Speaker 15: she is working incredibly hard to understand what those changes

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Speaker 15: mean for children. Any appearance and the fact that they're

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Speaker 15: chucking stuff and like AI is going to check it

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Speaker 15: without anyone knowing what that means. It's right that she

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Speaker 15: gets stuck in and asks those questions, and part of

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Speaker 15: that work is to eric.

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Speaker 5: Erica invited her months ago to engage, not once.

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Speaker 2: I almost feel sorry for you, Jenny. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: indefensible and you can't defend her, and I've done a

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Speaker 2: way you'd bother about having said that. Well, what about

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Speaker 2: her claims about the meth use and the fight clubs?

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Speaker 2: That turns out again true.

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Speaker 5: I mean again those are the who's.

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Speaker 2: Well, both of you, anyone who wants to those clubs

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Speaker 2: and the myth.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, the problem with that is they are extremely

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Speaker 5: serious allegations. So she doesn't seem to be able to

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Speaker 5: back it up, and everyone's going, what are you talking about? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: which which you know she won't come forward with. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 5: it looks like that's a whole lot of rubbish. It's

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Speaker 5: it's really serious allegations. The Minister, of course, will have

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Speaker 5: a look at that, but the reflect of the matter

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Speaker 5: is he hasn't even been able to substantiate.

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Speaker 24: Do you know who hot source is, Jinny, I do

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Speaker 24: not have that information, but it does point to the

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Speaker 24: fact that there have been really serious concerns raised around

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Speaker 24: those bookkeemps that eighty percent reoffending goes to the point

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Speaker 24: that they don't work, and there have been some really

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Speaker 24: questionable issues in the past.

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Speaker 15: I think it's only right that we ask that they're

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Speaker 15: being run appropriately. Now give it. Can I finish place?

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Speaker 2: You can't ask with false allegations though it's not that

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Speaker 2: sort of suggesting something it isn't happening.

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Speaker 15: Well, there's no evidence that they're false allegations. The Minister

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Speaker 15: has taken a look and we're interested to know if

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Speaker 15: anything more comes to light. If it's not, that's a

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Speaker 15: good thing. It means that they're safe.

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Speaker 5: Well, they are false allegations. If you can't cooperate them,

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Speaker 5: you can't come forward with serious allegations. Lot there that

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Speaker 5: put sustained across all of those people that are working

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Speaker 5: hard in those youth justice facilities and say, oh, we

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Speaker 5: can just come out with allegations.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought Ginny to be fair, the two who

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01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: didn't reoffend, I know, eighties high, but I mean these

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Speaker 2: were the worst of the worst. The two who didn't

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Speaker 2: real I thought was sort of nothing, sort of a miracle.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's nothing we're compared to nothing. It's nothing compared

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01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 15: to what the results we were seeing from the Fast

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Speaker 15: Track program which runs in South Auckland, which is around

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01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 15: eighty percent not reoffending that program. That program is still

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Speaker 15: in place because this government knows it works, and it

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01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 15: was the one single factor that I believe drove ound

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Speaker 15: rate offending so very quickly.

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Speaker 5: On this, I agree with you that the whole purpose

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Speaker 5: of the Youth Military Academy is they fail and fast

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01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 5: Tracked they fail everywhere and they go into the adult

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Speaker 5: youth justice system. These are the worst youth offenders, the

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01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 5: serious violent recidivius defenders. You need to have a strong intervention.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly what the academy is set up for. And

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01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 5: I agree with you it has been very successful because

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01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 5: although it hasn't turned off the tap and they've stopped

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 5: offending overnight, that's not going to happen. They're all older

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01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 5: kids that have been offending for a long time. The

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01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 5: seriousness of the offending is reducing the the and the

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 5: amount of offending is also reducing. So this is hitting

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01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 5: in the right direction, not going to stop it.

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: Wimitted to it.

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01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 15: Evidence said that they wouldn't work, and the results show

1534
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 15: that they haven't worked. I mean, how much did that cost?

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Speaker 20: Mike?

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01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: That was the cost? Questions are the cost? It's fair cool.

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 2: But having having said that, if you let things linger infester,

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01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: which have, it's going to cost you more. It's like

1539
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: you don't paint your house off and enough, it's going

1540
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: to cost you more when.

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01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 13: You did.

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01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 9: Soproachate the result So the resulting the program is quite

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01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 9: simply there's been a reduction in the offending, which means

1544
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 9: a reduction of victims.

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01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 5: There's been a reduction in the seriousness of the offending,

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 5: which is good for the for everyone. And by the way,

1547
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 5: if we didn't make this intervention, Ginny, they are on

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01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 5: a fast track into the adult criminal justice system. So yes,

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 5: it's a really tough intervention. It's an important one. It's

1550
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,440
Speaker 5: not exactly where we want it to be because we're

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01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 5: changing legislation to make sure they can stay longer. We

1552
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 5: always said it had to be up to twelve months.

1553
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 5: Currently the legislation only allows three months.

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Speaker 2: And you got it's pretty good. You've got thirty seconds,

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Speaker 2: Jenny go.

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Speaker 15: What we put that program in place in South Bookland

1557
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 15: called I Hate It for Carl and then it was

1558
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 15: called Circuit breaker, and that is the single biggest success

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01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 15: in the youth justice system. It's a full wrap around

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Speaker 15: support that gives the whole family the support, and that's

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Speaker 15: what stops reoffending. Not both don't they don't.

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Speaker 2: You've got to wrap it up. God, don't got to

1563
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 2: wrap it up. Take take it off here, Mark Mitchell

1564
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: and Jenny Anderson.

1565
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: Ding Ding Ding ding Ding.

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Speaker 2: There will be in a round or two off here

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Speaker 2: before the eight thirty News eight twenty.

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Speaker 1: Three, the Mike Casting Breakfast with Rainthrowver News Tom's dead

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Speaker 1: b Now, if you're looking for the smartest way to

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Speaker 1: boost the old home value in the static old market,

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Speaker 1: then have we got good news for you.

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Speaker 2: The smartest way to do it is with you do

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Speaker 2: it Kitchens. So for fifty years, almost fifty years, this

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Speaker 2: is a very proud key We company. They've been helping

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Speaker 2: the homeowners create superior quality kitchens super affordable prices. So

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Speaker 2: the affordability, how's that work? Well, basically you're doing the

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Speaker 2: design right. So they've got these easy tools. You customize

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Speaker 2: the cabinet sizes no extra cost, can and choose from

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Speaker 2: over thirty five color options. Then once you've locked in

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Speaker 2: that particular design, that you do it. Team Precision manufacture

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Speaker 2: your kitchen right here in the country. Only take seven days.

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Speaker 2: If you can believe it, everything's dispatched to your door.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to be a DIY pro either, because

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Speaker 2: assembly super easy and the local DIY experts they are

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Speaker 2: only an email away and they're going to help you

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Speaker 2: every step of the way. So when the housing market's

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Speaker 2: a bit flat, strategic improvements are your best investments to

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: get the exact kitchen you want, add the real value

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Speaker 2: to your home, save the thousands in the process. You

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Speaker 2: do it, U d UI, you do it. Their customers

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Speaker 2: are very proud to say, and quite rightly, I did

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Speaker 2: it myself. Ask your hotels the best, Mike, how many

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Speaker 2: beers do you have? Allison? We're going back to the

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Speaker 2: Christyuge Hotel. George Hotel's a beautiful hotel.

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Speaker 15: Mike.

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Speaker 2: We're spending five days in christ Jitch November will be

1597
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Speaker 2: the first time in over thirty years. Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: Where have you been? I am looking forward to u

1599
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Speaker 2: seeing the city and enjoying it. James, you probably need

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Speaker 2: more than five days, but as an initial tester taster,

1601
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Speaker 2: get amongst and thoroughly enjoy it and let me know

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Speaker 2: how you're going, Steve across the Tasman the RB yesterday,

1603
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,480
Speaker 2: the big cuts on we'll talk to him next.

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01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 1: News opinion and everything in between, the Mike Hosking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial and

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Speaker 1: rural news talks head been you're.

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Speaker 2: Just discussing before I let me get a text, Mike.

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Speaker 2: The price for Kadrona Hotels around twenty million dollars. Yea,

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Speaker 2: I know it was being reported yesterday. We've got interest

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Speaker 2: from all around the world for this. Not surprisingly I

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01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: was a mile out at seven or eight million, and

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01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: so if you're right at twenty million, and that's what

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01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 2: it comes out to be, mind you, I put an

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01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 2: offer in on a house that's telling you about the

1615
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: other day, and I missed out on that too, So

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01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 2: I just might be completely out to lunch. But what

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: we were talking about off here, which is interesting, and this

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: comes out of the RB yesterday in Australia. So one

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: of the things, apart from the cut they made is

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01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: the GDP is going down to one point they think

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: Michelle as in the Reserve Bank Governor thinks one point seven. Now,

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: what's critical about that? Is the claim here. The forecast

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01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: here is growth this year is going to be in

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: excess of two. So no one seems to have made

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01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 2: a news story out of this or seeing the obvious

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01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,520
Speaker 2: headline new Zealand is out growing Australia.

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Speaker 21: Green shoots, mate.

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01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: Green shoots twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 19: Nine International correspondence with endsit Eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 19: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 10: You witch the prices well this morning, mate, careful, what

1632
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 10: you wish for standard of living in Australia is diving

1633
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 10: and you better shut the gates because we'll all be

1634
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 10: on our way over there.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because the reason I raised this on

1636
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,879
Speaker 2: the program quite often is we've lost tens of thousands

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01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 2: of New Zealanders to you guys, because you know, obviously

1638
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: no one read the newspapers or worked out what the

1639
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: hell's going on there. But it is fair to say

1640
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: that even though you got your twenty five points yesterday,

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: life short of a bit of sunshine on the Gold

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01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: Coast and some triple X four XB, it's not as

1643
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: rosy as some here.

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01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 18: You might think, Well, it's certainly not. And look we've

1645
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 18: got lowish inflation now and unemployment rates steady only because

1646
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 18: we've got massive immigration. So there are really very big

1647
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 18: problems for that roundtable with the Treasurer next week to

1648
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 18: sort out. And the standard of living according to Michelle

1649
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 18: Bullock yesterday, and she kept getting asked about productivity, Now,

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 18: what is productivity, Well, it's the economy growing minus all

1651
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 18: of the government jobs where people get paid by the

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 18: federal and state governments will get paid by NDIS or

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01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 18: the doll productivity is you know, it's diving, as you

1654
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 18: pointed out, and with that comes to standard living. I

1655
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 18: can tell you I know, and you know two handfuls

1656
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 18: of people who've been made redundant in the last couple

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01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 18: of months, and wages are stagnant. No one's wages are

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01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 18: going up. So it's not a rosy picture here at all.

1659
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 18: And you're right to point that out.

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Speaker 2: That roundtable thing that alban easies. I mean, is anything

1661
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: real going to come out of this? Is this an exercise?

1662
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: And hot ere, I'll.

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01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 18: Tell you what reel is going to come out of it.

1664
01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 18: We will cop higher taxes somewhere somehow that's are given

1665
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 18: because the budget is basically broken and they need to

1666
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 18: get more revenue. So there will be tax changes that

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 18: come out of it. That'll be one thing that will

1668
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 18: come out of it. And then amazingly I read this

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01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 18: morning courtesy of the Australian newspaper. But the union movement

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01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 18: is going to go and sit at this round table.

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01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 18: I mean we talk about roundtable. It is basically a

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01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 18: small gathering of business, unions, lobby groups and politicians that

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01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 18: will descend on Parliament House for three days next week.

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01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 18: So what does the Act take to the table. Well,

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 18: they want to demand a four day working week for

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01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,560
Speaker 18: union workers in Australia. They have cited some Swinburn University

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01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 18: research which trials something called one hundred eighty one hundred.

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01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 18: Now that's where surprise, surprise workers keep one hundred percent

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 18: of what they were paid for working five days while

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 18: working eighty percent of their former hours, provided they maintain

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 18: one hundred percent of productivity. Imagine taking that to that gathering.

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Speaker 18: Given what we heard from them of the Reserve Bank yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well, Guardian look up, I can't remember his Perpetual Guardian.

1684
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 2: Look up Perpetual Guardian, which is a company here. They

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01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 2: pioneered that they would argue that it's successful, but there's

1686
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: still debate about that. By the way, Rubio, when Rubio

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Speaker 2: goes at you over Palestine, you've got problems. How are

1688
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: you going to If alban Easy was not going to

1689
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: get a meeting with Trump, how does he think he's

1690
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 2: going to get one now?

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Speaker 18: It's going to be very difficult. I mean he's going

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01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 18: to the UN obviously next month, and he's going to

1693
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 18: talk about Palestine, which doesn't help. And the Foreign Minister

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01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 18: Penny Wong has revealed that she's had some discussions Marco Rubio,

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01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 18: the Secretary of State. She actually gave him fore warning

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01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 18: of what we're going to do. Well overnight, Rubio comes

1697
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 18: out goes, well, this is meaningless. He says that the

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01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 18: move to recognize Palestine, he said, our government Australia and

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01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 18: you can include France and Canada and the UK, and

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01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 18: that bowing to domestic anti Israel sentiment. Now he's absolutely

1701
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 18: one hundred percent correct. Is quoted as saying it's symbolic.

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01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 18: They're doing it primarily for one reason, their internal politics

1703
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 18: and their domestic politics. Bang spot on. He has nailed it.

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01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 18: That's exactly what's happening. And you know, several commentators yesterday

1705
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 18: were suggesting this is more about keeping votes in seats

1706
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 18: in Sydney and Melbourne right than it is about anything

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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 18: to do with a real solution in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Egine, Well, I'm sure that's true. I was watching the

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01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: interview with Penny Wong that Karen Gilbert was doing on

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01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: Sky yesterday and she couldn't contain It's just, I mean,

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01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: she can't even hide the fact that she's clearly fantastically

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Speaker 2: pro Palestinian, cannot often enough to states silly. I mean,

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01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: she's like, this is a dream come true. This is

1714
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: like Christmas for her, isn't it?

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01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 18: Absolutely? And I've said this to you before. It's in

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01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 18: the DNA of Pennywong and Anthony Albernezi they would have

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01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 18: they were at university as young, young Australians dreaming of

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Speaker 18: the day that Palestine would be recognized as a state.

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Speaker 18: And I'm not making that up. That's exactly what they

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Speaker 18: were dreaming. And can you imagine what Anthony Albernize is

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Speaker 18: going to be feeling when he's strutting the stage in

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Speaker 18: New York at the un the next month announcing that

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Speaker 18: Australia signed up to this. I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 18: of anger in Australia, but Ian at the end of

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Speaker 18: the day, it's an issue a long way away, and

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Speaker 18: people are more worried about cost of living.

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Speaker 2: Well exactly, Snoop Dogg. I would, under normal circumstance laugh

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Speaker 2: at you. But I did see him and a bunch

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Speaker 2: of other rappers did the Super Bowl maybe two or

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Speaker 2: three Super bowls ago in Los Angeles, and they actually

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01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 2: put together quite a good show. I don't know he

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Speaker 2: by himself is any good. But how's that gone down?

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Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 18: Have you read any of his lyrics?

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Speaker 2: Oh, of course it's not really Australian. It's not really

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Speaker 2: afl is it. I mean, it's like.

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Speaker 18: We're importing a convicted criminal to stand on the stage.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 18: He's going to have to be very careful what he raps,

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01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 18: what songs he chooses. But that's a daytime event, largely

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01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 18: attended by young kids, a lot of women. I just

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01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 18: find it a very odd choice. I mean, we've had

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Speaker 18: some very good choices, Robbie Williams, Katy Perry, obviously meat Loaf.

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Speaker 18: As I understand, you played a small grab of our

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01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 18: friend meat Li, who completely made a fool of himself

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Speaker 18: when he tried to do it. Yes, but I mean

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01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 18: you can go back. I mean the one act they

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01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 18: ought to have been trying to get his ac DC. Obviously,

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Speaker 18: he is the most famous rock band in the world

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01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 18: and you can go back and celebrate sport. I don't

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01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 18: know why we keep paying and these people have played

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01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 18: millions of dollars. I was at a grand file at

1753
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 18: the mcg in one of the great moments in my life.

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01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 18: Muhammed Ali was driven around the ground in an open

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01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 18: top car. I got to see Muhammad Ali. Why are

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Speaker 18: we doing things like that anymore?

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's a very good point. Wall

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01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 2: what do you pay? It was what do Williams give

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01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 2: five millions? It's literally millions, isn't it. It's like a

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01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: major gig.

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Speaker 18: Oh yeah, yeah, he for one one show and he'll

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Speaker 18: probably then go on and do a tour around the

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Speaker 18: rest of Australia. So yeah. I think they were talking

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01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 18: at one point trying to get Bruce Spring and they

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01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 18: couldn't afford him. But it's something like five or six

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01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 18: million dollars for one.

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Speaker 2: Not bad, all right, mate, go well, we'll see you

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Speaker 2: next week. Steve Price out of Australia by the way,

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Speaker 2: just picking up on that conversation, very good piece of

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Speaker 2: read in the u Citny Morning Herall the other day

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Speaker 2: and look it up. It's under the headline the first

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01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: generation with declining standards of living Australia's faltering economics standing.

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01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 2: And that's before you get to the fact you end

1774
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: up with a house and serdainely at a minimum price

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01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: at one point seven million dollars, so you can't afford

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01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: a house. Yes, you might be earning a little bit

1777
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: more in a beer, might be cheaper, I don't know.

1778
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 2: But the first generation with declining standards of living Australians

1779
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 2: faltering economic standing. So if we end up with more

1780
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: GDP than Australia, that's not a bad year, is it?

1781
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Speaker 2: Eight forty five?

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Speaker 1: The Hike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio power

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Speaker 2: A B twelve away from nine. Just a reminder of

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01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: where we've been, Adrian or they're cutting jobs at the

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank and this is the problem with people who

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01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing. You pay and this was

1788
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 2: actually funny enough to was Ginny's problem In Question Time

1789
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 2: yesterday they were asking why people shouldn't take it personally

1790
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Speaker 2: if they've lost their job, and they were quoting allegedly

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Speaker 2: Nicola Willis. Now Nikola Willis didn't say that. She said

1792
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 2: you shouldn't take it personally if you've lost your job.

1793
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 2: Because the previous government buggered up the economy so badly,

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01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: inevitably people were going to have to pay the price,

1795
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: and unfortunately the people who lose their jobs are those people.

1796
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: It's not a personal reflection. It's not about you and

1797
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: your work and your ethic. It's your just the unfortunate

1798
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: victims of incompetence. So that was the quote, but because

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01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: she sort of paraphrased the quite and tried to make

1800
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: a point out of it fell flat. But the people

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01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: at the Reserve Bank are finding out what it's like

1802
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: to have somebody who's incompetent as well, because one and

1803
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 2: four jobs are being cut. So they've agreed to seven

1804
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five million dollars worth of funding twenty

1805
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 2: five through thirty for the bank they wanted a billion.

1806
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: Cuts are deeper in the so called Enterprise Services Operation,

1807
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: whatever the hell that means. So jobs directly linked to

1808
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: the bank's core functions maintaining price, finance stability, et cetera.

1809
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 2: They're going to be saved. Good as they should. But

1810
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: if you're in strategy, stakeholder engagement, governance, general counsel people

1811
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: and culture, information security, all of that, then the chances

1812
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: are you losing your job now under this is how

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01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 2: bad it got under or those areas that I just

1814
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: mentioned saw arise from one hundred and thirty eight jobs

1815
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: to three hundred and seventy eight. One hundred and thirty

1816
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 2: eight to three hundred and seventy eight just in non

1817
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: core roles at the bank altogether. Staffing levels at the

1818
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 2: rb nearly doubled doubled between June of twenty and January

1819
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: of twenty five, from three forty nine to six hundred

1820
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: and sixty. The guy went nuts, and so he hired

1821
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 2: a whole lot of people who are now going to

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: lose their jobs because he didn't know what he was doing.

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Speaker 2: So don't take it personally. Nine minutes away from nine the.

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Speaker 2: discussion around crime, punishment and all of that. So that's

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Speaker 2: after ten o'clock this morning on Kerry Show, five minutes

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Speaker 2: Now we got Megan. So Megan is well. She calls

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Speaker 2: herself an actor and a writer. And her flight's been canceled.

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01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 2: This is all online. She's coming back from Portugal to Indianapolis.

1856
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: Now she's eaten the night before an undercooked burger. So

1857
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 2: there's your first clue. So she's spending quite a bit

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01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: of wants to spend quite a bit of time in

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01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: the bathroom, and it's so bad that she is in

1860
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: fact allowed to stay in said bathroom while the plane

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01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 2: took off and landed, which I would have thought is

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01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: reasonably unusual, because I've been in that situation. Not myself,

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: because I don't hate to undercook burgers and never rush

1864
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: off to the bathroom, but I've been on a plane

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01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 2: with a person in a similar sort of state, and

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01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 2: they weren't afforded the same opportunity of luxury of being

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01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: able to spend it vast amounts of time in the bathroom. Anyway,

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01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: it gets worse. Unfortunately, the flight was canceled due to

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01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:29,440
Speaker 2: her diarrhea.

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Speaker 25: Flight attendant comes over, Megan, everybody is off the plane.

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01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 25: Now just come out.

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01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 13: Whenever you can.

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01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 25: Next flight has been canceled. In the moment, I'm not

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01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 25: thinking that's because of me. And the moment, I'm like,

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 25: oh thing, you got okay, because I'm like, what a

1876
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 25: gorgeous coincidence. When I got off the plane, I was

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01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 25: like asking the flight attendant. I was like, Hey, what am.

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01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 13: I supposed to do with this bag?

1879
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 15: Up?

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01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 25: Drove up and she's like, no, tie up, leave it

1881
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 25: all in there, because that has much team's going to

1882
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 25: come through. And I go, got it, got it. I

1883
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Speaker 25: am a biohaz right.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to believe that twenty million people have looked

1885
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 2: this up, obviously, because I heard the lads in the

1886
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 2: afternoon talking about wasting your life on short video clips yesterday,

1887
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: and yet there are twenty million people wasting their life. Well, no,

1888
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 2: that's the point I was coming to. Glenn's a very

1889
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 2: good point. In fact, she goes on for sixteen minutes,

1890
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: which also seems almost beyond belief. But between her and

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01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 2: the twenty million idiots Welcome to the world. In twenty

1892
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: twenty five, got in again. Now look, Gilbert and OK

1893
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 2: you remember Gilded and Oken and the All Blacks. It's

1894
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: all up in the top two percent. You know. It's

1895
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: the power of success. It's if you believe you all

1896
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 2: that stuff. Looking forward to catch up tomorrow on the program.

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01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 2: He's guess where he is. He's been working with Baz

1898
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 2: and bes Ball in the British cricket But guess where

1899
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 2: he uses this is it Chelsea and the EPL. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Gilbert and I could with us tomorrow. Happy Days.

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