1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to believe the Transpower Parland story 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: isn't really I mean, the report tells us what we 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: already knew. Two workers no training under the bolts tower 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: falls over, power goes out. Not only weren't they trained, 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: I suppose that's the new part of the story. Not 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: only weren't they trained, they didn't get proper supervision either. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: So now we presumably talk about compensation or do we. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Northerland's MP Grant McCallum's with us, Grant, very good morning 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: to you. 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning Mike. Every time you hear it, you 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: just wonder, don't you just wonder how this possibly happened 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: and highlights why we actually do need to get some 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: recompense for the people of Northland, that's. 14 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: For sure, exactly. But the report says the compensation part 15 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: of the question was not in their purview. Who owns 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: and runs with this now. 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: Well that's up to the north of people like my 18 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: South de lairs of Northland, And it gets stuck in 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: to sit down and Transpound say, actually, you owe the 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: people of Northon a lot of anger out there. You've 21 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: heard it from the business community this morning that are 22 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: really frustrated they feel that they had burrowed something and 23 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: actually the wider community, which has been my pitch, is 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: for the wider community to get to get some decent 25 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: a decent check from the from Transpower, which we can 26 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: use the benefit all of Northland because everybody was affected. 27 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: The power went out to the whole province. 28 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: What what When you sit down with them, they'll go, oh, 29 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: look at some mex and go see them. Is that 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: fair or not? 31 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not in that conversation, but actually 32 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: know they I have sat down with them and that 33 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: that wasn't that didn't come into it. They understand the 34 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: relationship directly with Northern This is through Transpower, not through Mexin. 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: That's their issue. Good right, so very much had that 36 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: conversation directly with them. It's about Transpower putting things right 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: for Northland by taking this seriously and recognizing the live 38 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: of anger out there. 39 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: So when you had that conversation with Transpower, was there 40 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: a pen involved quivering over a. 41 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: Check at that point? Not at that point yet, but 42 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: we know it would be fair to say the sort 43 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: of general number they threw around was significantly lower than 44 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: I was thinking it was relevant. I said a fact 45 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: of ken of what you're talking about might be more relevant. 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: So we're talking tens of millions, Well, no, not. 47 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: That high, but seven figures talking at seven three. 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a million plus. And are they of 49 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: a mind that that's what it will come to or 50 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: is there a fight here? 51 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: I think there might be a little bit of a 52 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: fighter initially, but I would like to think that particularly 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: after the support, which, by the way, why do you 54 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: need seventy three pages and one hundred and tweety pages 55 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: profession actually tell us that someone took too many bolts off. 56 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you know who that would be a great 57 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: job to get it. Can get it, you know, but 58 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: you know why you need that beyond me? But no, 59 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: they they need to come with some serious coin and 60 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: take it serious, and they need to come up to North, 61 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: need to come to the North in front of the 62 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: people of North and so they actually feel and understand 63 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: the level of anger and eat stuff here. 64 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. Go well, Grant, appreciate it very much, 65 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: Grant mckellum. What I mean before the break about everything 66 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: that's wrong with this country is you can't make this up. 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: It is so bad that you literally can't make it up. 68 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: We had the woman who's now gone, whose name I 69 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: can't remember, who was the head of Transpower on the 70 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: program on the day, and you looked at the pictures 71 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: and you saw them no bolts in the holes, and 72 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: you said, they take the bolts out. And then she 73 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: got all ropie with me for you know, jumping the gun. 74 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Seventy three pages, as Grant says later, and some dumb 75 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: report costing thousands of dollars stating the bloody obvious. Two 76 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: idiots who go haven't got a brain cell to rub together. 77 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. Even if you had 78 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: never been trained to look after a pylon before, which 79 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: most of us happened, when they said go clean, it 80 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: would the first thing you do is undo all the bolts. 81 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Is that the first thing? Honestly, even with no training 82 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: and no supervision whatsoever, all they do is give you 83 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: a still water blaster and say go clean. That would 84 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: the first thing you do be to take all the 85 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: bolts out. No, So that's what's wrong with New Zealand. 86 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: One they don't care. Two they don't train, three they 87 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: don't supervise. Four they're inconfident. And then they even want 88 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: to apologize and write a proper check. For more from 89 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to Newstalk Said from 90 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.