WEBVTT - "Woj Bombs & Shower Ablutions With Ali Williams!" 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.120 Live from the Export Beer Gadden's studio and brought to you, 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.520 as always by Export Ultra the BF for here. This 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.360 is the Agenda for a Thursday, the seventeenth of October. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:13.040 The Agenda podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and Clap Trap, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.360 brought to you by Export Ultra. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.600 And later on in the show we will be joined 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.760 by Ali Williams, who is in the car wash at 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:22.960 the moment, which is what we refer to when someone 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.200 comes through and is interviewed by every media outlet in 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:26.720 the building. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:27.040 Yep. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.560 I'm sure he's been at every other building. I know 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.640 he was in at Sky on Tuesdays on my team 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.320 for Gamer two Haves tonight eight thirty pm on Sky 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.920 and Sky's Sky Open yep. But joining us in the 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:41.160 podcast this morning is New Zealand's answer to Adrian Wodrian Narowski. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.400 It is James mcconny, Good morning, Good morning. Wo'se bombs 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:49.240 boo boo boo, boo boom everywhere. And a more obscure 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:50.920 reference that I was trying to get off on social 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.760 media was Jams Sheronia, you know, because Woe is retired. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:56.960 If you don't know, I've got no idea what these. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.480 Are the NBA reporters who come up with all the 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.040 early scoops on the NBA. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.680 Stuff and Woj's Hall of Famer. He just retired this 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.919 year and in his stead is now this though, Shams Scherania. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.840 That's picking it all up. So jam no, I got 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.480 it's fine, but you broke a broke a Woje bomb. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:15.760 Was it last night yes? 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.480 Or maybe uh early? I was in midday yesterday. I 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.600 just got sick of all the New Zealand journalists were 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.520 just not onto it. So I don't really want to 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.000 do this. I don't want to have to put out 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.080 stories or angles. But I'm just like, oh, for foxs sake. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.360 So I just said, you know that Hoskinstitutu will not 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.200 be playing for the All Blacks fifteen that he had 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.160 turned down to play for a turned down raiser to 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.960 play for the All Blacks in Japan because he's got 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.120 a knee injury and so, but crucially that means it 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.080 keeps his options open, doesn't it to go skippity doo 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.760 overseas and play for either England or Fiji. Qualifies for 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.640 Figi of course, through Wassaki, his dad and then his 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.400 mum is English or as an English passport, so he's 0:01:58.440 --> 0:01:59.560 got options, you know. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.880 Is that because he has played for the All Blacks right. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.800 Yeah, but I think the last game was in twenty 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.800 twenty two, so it's a three year stand down. If 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.360 you want to play another another nation the next year, 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.840 he'd be almost straight in there. Yeah. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:11.639 Oh man, they'd put him straight in, wouldn't they. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.000 I think England would love it. But then can they 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.400 afford him because English rugby clad rugby is a little 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.760 bit dicey at the moment. But if the arif you said, well, well, 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.919 well yeah, we'll talk to our people, because they've. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:28.000 Got many of money, so much twicking twigs and range 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.320 rovers yeah and range rovers and estates yes, and those 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.720 weird little gum type gumboot things that they were. But 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.799 couldn't you the England. Are you allowed to play in 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.640 France but still play for England? 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:38.959 No? 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.160 Oh, you have to play in England. 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:41.919 They have to play for the in the English Premiership 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.520 and that's the thing. So for Fiji, I say, reviewer, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.720 we'll find you and come play for us. Yeah, And 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.840 so that'd be pretty cool because even if if they 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.560 started assembling a team of Fijians who were sort of 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.480 thinking about playing for another country or whatever, you know, 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.359 like a tabatava nahwai or whatever. Although they've got lots 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.400 of wingers, right, but you start getting your what your hoskins, 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.160 Sotutu's coming around. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.240 Mark no longer need to work there exactly might have 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.800 played union in a few years. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:14.440 True, I can't deal with it, and so yeah, that 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:19.120 would be incredible. But yeah, playing for England. I kind 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.359 of applaud if he does it because it's the most 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:22.200 trolly thing to do. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.200 Also financially the best thing to do. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.080 Yeah, I think that could be right. It's tricky because 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.880 he would command so much money in France or Japan. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.200 Yeah, he is France in particularly. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:40.000 While still playing by having international goals. England's the best 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.840 one because you played international rugby and get paid a 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:42.240 ship load. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.080 That's the thing. If you want to sort of cement 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.040 your legacy is a really great test playable then England. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.560 You've got so many opportunities to just go well. The 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.760 tilted the title of course will title, but the Six 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.560 Nations is a big deal, even though we sort of 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.960 think it's the box kicking championships, the world box kicking 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.400 champions falls back instead of like, okay, we accept it's 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:08.400 quite good, but except for elite, Oh I don't provedn't proved. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.200 But yeah, I look at that French competition and I 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.560 think if you're like, obviously everyone wants to be an 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.280 all black, every kid in this country. But you know, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.640 there's nothing wrong with just being a professional rugby player 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.800 for a job, like and if you're going to do that, 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.000 you could do worse than France. Those parades that they 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.680 throw after they win the championship, the crowds that they 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.720 get at those games, like, it looks like a sick 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.800 place to be a professional rugby player, doesn't it. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.120 It is, the only issue with France is how long 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.560 the season is. It just they pretty much grind you down. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.799 So if you're a number eight, they're expecting so many carries, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.800 head ups, what do you call it? Like jackals, your jackals, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.560 you're turning up to rucks, you clean outs? Yeah, all 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.159 that sort of shit, and it's it goes on forever. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.280 That's why France are threatening to send an understrength team 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.000 to New Zealand next year because this season is still 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.240 in playoff mode and they're like, well we don't do 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.880 not care. There's a long we bummed you once and 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.919 now we just dignor fuck you. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.719 Can we still do excellent? I think I think you 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:08.360 can do French. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.599 French is still look gay. We will not get canceled doing. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:14.440 Any white guys. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.960 I think about Italian Italian French. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.200 I think Italian. I feel like you can get canceled 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:22.480 for being too Italian. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.360 I think why because come after you, you just don't 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:28.960 want to keeps doing that. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:36.200 Open open season on the Irish help on Irish Scottish. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:38.800 Russians are all good, you know, does give them there? 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.599 Still we have a great we have a great Russian. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.440 I support man named. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.920 And Surge came down and he was he was changing 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.039 over service for each brand. And he came down here 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.720 and the Flavor radio station is just here next to us, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.559 and he was looking at it lost, and I said, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.520 are you right? He goes, you're woking for someone form 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:05.040 of floor and I was like, you, Mikie, do for. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.240 Is a flowing floor office? 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.440 Because my my beautiful lit where I'm thinking of. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:17.120 All of me. He came down, he said, this graph 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.240 on the roof a reactor for. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.479 So I hope he found flav but he did. He 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:26.640 was standing right next to it. There was just no 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:27.039 one there. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:32.720 Yeah, so who are the people that Peter Archives have 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:33.560 been brought in? 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:35.880 Josh Lord? Just Lord's been brought up. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:41.240 Yeah, Josh Lord, big unit, beautiful man, goofy bastard. Love 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.040 him because he's kind of like the fun guy, the 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.640 lock and so yeah, here's he's he's just good value, 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.360 Josh Lord. And so it's this is a big chance. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.800 He's looking pretty good. Like now he's sort of turned 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.040 that corner because he came in as a baby draft 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:57.400 is like. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.279 Nineteen or something called up for that Northern tour just 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.440 because what we don't have enough locks? Is that what 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:02.680 it was? 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.200 Yeah? I feel like it was just like almost what 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.440 are they doing in the NFL the combine right where 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.920 they just measured him and went yep, okay, yeah you 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:10.560 go on the plane. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:15.000 Yep, it's mighty Williams, all these kind of guys. Yeah 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.000 are you six foot eight? 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:16.600 Yeah? 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.160 Do you want to come play for the All Blacks? 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:18.360 Yes? 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.680 Yeah you do? Have you heard of them? Yeah? That's right. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.000 I was wondering if maybe he was a bit of 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:27.160 a who's our man? American dad? Look Jacobson. Yes, because 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.120 he looks like a future All Black captain, Like physically, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.280 that's what he looks like. And I always wondered if 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.480 that's why he got because he got called into all 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.880 of those chiefs early, into the all Black squad early. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.960 Do you think he's getting pretty privileged? I think he 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:40.760 was getting a little bit of pretty privilege. Now he's 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.320 backed it up. But I do wonder if because he's 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.240 one of those guys that an All Black selected a 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:46.440 rugby coach looks at and. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.120 Goes, yeah, I want him to be so do you 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.040 can cut it? Isn't actually the goat. He just got 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:52.480 pretty privilege the whole way through. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.640 Possibly I think he's definitely the goat, but I think 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.280 the pretty privilege helps. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.960 I think it helped to get in a few teams here. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.680 Because you look at you look at the likes of 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.640 who is Simon Calhane. Yeah, you know he didn't get 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:05.239 much privilege. 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.880 No, there's nothing. He's battling away and he's like come on, 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.200 and they're like, even agree, he's quite cute. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:12.680 He's cute, but it's not hot. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.760 Carlos is hot. Carlos Dan Carter's hot. Nick Evans so 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.840 it was skipping and Bowden's good looking. He sorted out 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.720 his teeth. Yeah, he is hot, and he's kind of like, 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.840 how would you call it, just like a storybook hero, 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.839 you know, you can imagine on a horse riding he's 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:33.360 a prig. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.520 A hot guy. I mean, obviously Richard Carhu, We'll probably 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.760 be right up there with I'm just thinking tense but sorry, yes, yes, 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.400 but yes, Cahu, you were just changing the whole paradigm 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.559 and just going hot wen't. Yeah, but would you say 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.760 I would say, would you say, if we're going Australian, 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.000 would you consider Stephen Larkham to be hot when he 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:55.520 was playing? 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:55.920 I don't know. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:56.920 Nah, he's a bit. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.320 He's a bit skeletory for me, Like just a bit. 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.360 I know, saying yeah, the hit gear and the tape everywhere, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:04.640 but you put them in. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:08.319 The living suit beside a Spanish villa and you're going, oh, yeah, okay, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.840 just a bit of shit, unbuttoned the Man Simon shirt 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.000 and yeah, exactly, I get it. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:14.880 He does have a touch of the James Bonds about 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:15.720 him now as a coach. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.240 Yes, so I think he does have leading men looks 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.120 and he's got a mole in the right place, you know, 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.600 like he's got a good mole, one of the great moles, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.080 one of the great moles, Stephen Larkham. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.480 I've always said that about Stephen Larkham. He goes through 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.800 gaps and he's got one of the great moles. Ethan 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:34.000 Blackadder's also out as well. Yet another injury for Ethan Blackadder. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.680 Then you can't is it just because he's too reckless? 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.760 Is this what it is? I don't know. It's just 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.880 he's just dangerously unlucky and Dalton Papoli as well. So 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.040 it's interesting to me that we're only bringing in Peter 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.679 Lucky and Josh Lord, wouldn't we want another Lucy in there? 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:49.960 Well they did ask. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.120 And now they're going, oh shit, okay, so. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.400 Not you, by the way, should they be playing a 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.480 bit of Australian crawl to Ethan Blake and you know 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:04.719 in his rehab. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:10.319 Yeah, well, had Man, don't be so reckless throw down 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.160 your god because I just heard you call them recklar. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.000 It takes a while to get into the chorus on 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.840 that song. You'll notice that anytime you throw it on 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:20.960 at a party, other songs made and you're like, oh yeah, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.840 it goes on for a while. There's about a yeah, 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:29.280 sixteen baron a manly ferry. Yeah, makes sits away across 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.080 the bay. I think this is a would you like 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.160 a hot take place? Get the hot takes thing? Really, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.320 ge Lane, you'l you might like this? 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.080 Why not pick that absolute freak of nature from the 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.640 mulus Oli mephis open side flanker who played on the 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.600 last week scored a try on the wing. Put the 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:53.120 step on. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.280 And he's a flanker people. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.880 And when he played, when he kept using secondary schools, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.280 he had a game where it was like a heck 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.480 and two crazy assists, like it was run meters of 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.880 three hundred and something plus. And I know that's schoolboy rugby, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.440 but every level he looks amazing. Yeah, And so why 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.280 not just go? This guy's so talented. Were still not 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:14.880 sure what position he should play? 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:15.840 Just pick him? 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.120 So is he naturally a fling cap inside? 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.440 Yeah? And he played on the wing, played right wing 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.559 for the scored a try. I love this kind of 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:24.880 it's got quite a good try aim and I. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:26.760 Yeah, oh yeah, well I've seen it. I'm going to 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.839 have to follow that. He had two tracking across from 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.599 here He's managed to get shake one pretty easily, just 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.160 a little stop and then duck the dove in. It 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:36.800 was almost like a touch try in the end. You 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.000 know they're just dive in and you can't get low 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.320 enough for them. You don't want to hear that's right. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.360 So yeah, he looks, he looks tremendous. Say let's take 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.319 a quick break and let's talk about the MPC here. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.720 So we do have a couple of MPC semi finals 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.439 this weekend, fellas, We've got the Josh Morby Memorial Battle 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.000 of Topau and that's Wellington versus. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.880 There's Josh Morebury already gone to France. I feel like 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.360 he's gone. He hasn't turned up for whiteot Or for 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:04.760 a while. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.439 We speak quite a while this morning trying to find 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:07.280 someone who played for. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:11.360 Both played Chiefs and well and Wellington. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.480 And we settled on Josh Morby. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.120 I'm just going to have a quick squeeze. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.360 Also, top was more than Wellington. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.360 Yeah, but a lot of people from Wellington holiday in Topul. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.400 It's a very big Wellington bolt hoole. It's either that 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.640 or the sounds where they go. So that's why that's 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.760 the better of Topel, because because that is he is 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.400 Chiefs country as well. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.680 Yeah, so the Chiefs are not the Chiefs the Mulus. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.480 They tipped up Taranaki last week, that was and that 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.760 was an upset and thus released Josh Lord for the 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.440 Northern tour a week early. But do you think they 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.000 can keep it going against Wellington this weekend? I know 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.000 you're both Mulu men. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:49.400 Yeah. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.959 Look the All Blacks are they playing again this weekend? 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.320 When are they off from the Northern tour? 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:53.760 James? 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.640 Do you know they're off now? 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.480 And all those French All Blacks have gone? 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.480 I believe they have. So like Olmore had an absolute 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.040 blinder and then Billy Proctor was on fire as well. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.800 So and when your Proctor's on fire, you got caller doc. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.800 You need to another thing as a rule. But the 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:18.960 thing is he is. I think Wellington, though losing those guys, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.720 they're still super strong. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.600 That's my favorites dollar forty. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.080 Yes, yeah, but did you the way Aaron Cruden, the 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:31.160 Old Master Old Yoda controlled the game and Josh Jakin 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.880 the vampire like he was, he's trying everything he could, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.880 all his vampire powers had him and then yeah, yeah, 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.520 and then but Aaron just ran the game and I 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.560 just wonder whether he's kind of got that one last 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.160 title with him and could he could he make a 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.240 big run and control He just ran the cutter, But 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.680 American Dad was the best in show for the for 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:52.920 the moders last week. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.199 We were saying earlier this week I made Lane try 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.559 and guess how old Aaron Cruden is. Deceptively young? Do 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.120 you know how he is two? He's thirty five? 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.800 Oh right, Okay, that's what it was, late dirties been 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.040 for so long, he was so young. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.400 In twenty eleven he was skateboarding, remember when he was 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.600 called into the squad. So he was skateboarding, and fucking 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.760 Beaver was white baiting. So who knows what the other 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.120 person was, will be good if someone was just honestly, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:20.640 I'm just watching porn and massive. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.200 Well that's isn't that what you do in your white 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:25.760 bait anyway? 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:31.600 That euphemism, right, that's why they always come back with 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.600 such tiny amounts of white bet. So you've been out 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.720 there all day and you've brought back one little SnapLock 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.760 bag of white bait. Yeah, so yeah, well I've been 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.080 doing other things as well there as you're getting ten 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.440 on the on the phone though, while you're while are 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.640 you going for it? It would just be I don't 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.440 know it would help or where you just sort of 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.760 all of a sudden, it would just be all that's 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:58.160 all I've got. I've got a better offer for you. Come, 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.840 I play for the all back. Do not tell me 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:01.920 you masturbating beaver? Are you? 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:02.320 Are you? 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.560 Stop it? Stop it? Or you go to be fair? 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.680 To be fair? You got me there? You got me 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:12.480 made ye? 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.680 Well, man, I'm down the river. What if I'm doing 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.200 down there? That's my best beaver. I've lost a little bit. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:19.640 I had a great beaver there for a while. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.880 Yeah, it's already clips the ends of the words, doesn't 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:22.440 he a little bit? 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.200 You're going to drop it down as low as you 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.480 possibly can to be fair. And they're running in the 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.520 back of the last word that said as well, and 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:34.440 then good, he's going to ask for his boots back 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.880 if you just keep marching into No, this is a 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.480 term of demon. Spend a lot of time mimicking the 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.600 ways of the beaver. And I do have a Worl 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:43.680 Cup winning boots as well. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.120 I've got him on FaceTime, now do it? 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:50.200 Don't they have plenty of playing? Oh sorry, just before 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.400 we do. I was just going to say, cook Savage 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.480 that drop goal? How sick was that? I know? 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:56.920 I loved that? Someone said to me or it was 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.720 a bit of a wobbi drop goal in anything from 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.240 forty past isn't amazing drop goal? 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.760 A bit wobbly? Who gives give him something like? Why 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.000 don't you always have to say? I was like, there 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.160 was epic and such a good call. I think Crewden 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.240 passing the ball right. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.320 No, it was the winger. It could have been Cruden, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.400 I'm not sure, just goes snap it. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:21.040 Yeah, but anyway, Yes, to pile Cook Savage, what is 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.680 happening with Josh Morby Now? I almost feel like he 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.400 is the guy who would decide the game. But you 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.400 s back to the drop goal, Gulane, you love a droppy. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.240 I love a droppy, but I also love that name. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.080 To pile Cook Savage, yes he needs to be an 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.840 all black well it it pretty much. 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.440 Sums up a lot of the early history written by 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:42.440 bley the Cooks, mainly by the by the British. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:48.080 Cook seven his whole. But it was the way he 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.120 did it as well. As soon as he got that ball, 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:51.560 he knew that's what he was going to do, and 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.840 I feel like he's been waiting all season for that 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.440 very scenario someone doesn't find touch. He's been like, I've 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.840 been trying this training every day. I know I can 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:02.240 do it. And everyone else around him was okay with 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.760 it too, because up until then they were hammering the 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.920 tryline right and then they tried to clear it, didn't 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:08.879 get it. He's like, I want to fucking slot this 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.879 from forty watched this, I know, and it was you 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.520 could see the crowd and Tatanaki the just going what 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:14.479 the fuck this is? 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.399 This isn't the script. They all turned out and huge 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.560 numbers and on one side of the. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.560 Wrong side too, on the wrong side. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.720 No, the cameras can't change, but it'll be sorted next 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.600 year maybe. But the way that Taranaki came back and 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.720 the forwards kind of like mowed through everybody in the 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.200 second half ship that was bizarre to me. I just 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.639 couldn't work out how they could changed, what changed, and 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.439 how they couldn't win that because they just made so 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.960 many mesas and every single time, why coulds have tried 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.359 to truck it up? They're just like breck Wall Tartanaki 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:48.719 defense in place. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.720 Well, there's a reason why second half Taranaki lost and 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.640 that was the curse of coming on the agenda. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.520 We had Barnzy on the Weary on. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.919 The week before, and before that we had bred Shields 0:17:59.920 --> 0:18:03.160 on before the Shield. No, both of them were both 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.000 very very quietly confident, weren't they, And then they came 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.840 on this podcast and then four days later both of 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.080 them were Actually. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:11.960