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Speaker 1: The rumor is that the next chair of New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Rugby to replace Dame Patsy really is going to be

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Speaker 1: David Kirk. Obviously a name synonymous with rugby, so that's

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Speaker 1: a good thing. A few wrinkles in that appointment, though,

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Speaker 1: former ends it are CEO David Moffats with me now, morning.

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Speaker 2: David, Morning, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Okay. The first wrinkle is that he doesn't actually live

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. He lives in Sydney. Is that a

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Speaker 1: problem for you?

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Speaker 2: Not really, but I would say there'd be a caveat

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Speaker 2: to that. I'm sure. Firstly, I'm sure he will be

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Speaker 2: spending quite a lot of time trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: what's happening or what has been happening with New Zealand Rugby.

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Speaker 2: But as long as he can appoint his own chief

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Speaker 2: executive and as absolute faith in that person, I think

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Speaker 2: it could work.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the signals the end of Mark Robinson?

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Speaker 2: Well, my views about him, I'm very well known, Heather,

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Speaker 2: as you know. I think we've talked about it in

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Speaker 2: the past. I think one of the things that a

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Speaker 2: guy like David Kirk needs is somebody that if he's

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Speaker 2: not here all the time, that he can actually have

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Speaker 2: a lot of faith in and trust in to do

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Speaker 2: what's right by New Zealand Rugby and somebody who's not

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Speaker 2: going to be jumping on a plane every five minutes,

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Speaker 2: somebody who's going to knuckle down and basically get a

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Speaker 2: lot of changes that are required in ns are at

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Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 1: But the more interesting rinkle I reckon is that he is.

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Speaker 1: This is David Is the president of the Players Association,

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Speaker 1: which got into a massive spat with INSIDU about the

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Speaker 1: Silver Lake deal that he will now be in charge

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Speaker 1: of implementing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he will, But I mean he's a really smart guy.

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Speaker 2: And what's more, he's been very successful in business and

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Speaker 2: very successful on the rugby field and with Wellington as

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Speaker 2: an administrator. So he's really great at the intersection of

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Speaker 2: the professional game and also the community game. And of

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Speaker 2: course it's the community game that needs a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of attention at the moment, having been ignored for so long.

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Speaker 2: So look, I've got no problems really with that, because

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Speaker 2: as I said, David is a really clewed up guy.

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Speaker 2: He's got a lot of contacts right around the world.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll do a great job and coach.

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Speaker 1: Is such an important part of this I would imagine David,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. As always, David Moffatt, former New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Rugby CEO. For more from the mic Asking Breakfast

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