1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a player store us Dogs. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: It is six after five. Great to have your company 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 3: this morning. As we go to air. South Korean troops 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 3: are attempting to enter its parliament hall. Have the latest 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: on that, what exactly it means, how significant that is? 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: Also this morning, Rob Campbell on Health New Zealand. Why 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: can't they just sort their budget out? How much do 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: you need? How much are you going to spend? Some 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: quite basic questions for him this morning. Also we'll talk 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: a set of Reese and some great news on the 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: global dairy trade auction overnight. We'll have more on that shortly. 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: And if you're in Auckland, does the shakeup talk? Can 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: transport mean faster speeds and fewer cycle ways? We'll ask 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: a local board member. The agenda, as I said, very 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: busy morning this morning, and we start with South Korea 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: where it is all kicking off. We con tell you 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: this morning that they have entered a state of martial law. 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: South Korea has declared an emergency martial law. This is 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: the president. He has accused the opposition party in South 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: Korea of trying to overthrow the government and being undemocratic. 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: He told the nation and told members of the National 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: Assembly in his televised address that the government that he 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: presides over has been, in his view, paralyzed, with opposition 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 4: forces members of the National Assembly trying to impeach him 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: and trying to impeach several ministers in the government. 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: South Korean media are reporting the military has halted parliamentary activity. 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: Members of the National Assembly have been locked out of 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: the building, and I can see some live pictures of 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: this coming in at the moment. It also means there 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: are restrictions on reporting in South Korea by the media, 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: so getting information may become a little bit difficult as 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: we head into the morning. Meanwhile, to the hot mess 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: in Europe that is France, the government still on the 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: brink of collapse. There is a vote of no confidence 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: will be held tomorrow. Comes after the Prime minister pushed 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: a budget bill through Parliament without a vote, which costs 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: a lot of angst on both sides of the extremes there. 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: So the Prime minister being primised to three months expected 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: to speak publicly on this vote later today, the affairs 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: the Israel hesbil a ceasefire is only just holding on 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: by a thread. Lebanon's Health Ministry says ten people died 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: in an Israeli attack. Israel says it was responding to 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: a Hesbila mortar attack on a military base. The US 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: Department of State, who helped negotiate this sixty day six fire, 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: still has hope that it will hold. 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: That's why we set up this mechanism in the first place, 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: because we knew that there would be potential violations. Just 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: as anywhere in the world, when you see a ceasefire implemented, 52 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: you see various violations at times. Ultimately, what we don't 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: want to see is the ceasefire breakdown. 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: And to the United States the Congress, they're facing a 55 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: December twentieth deadline to strike a government funding deal and 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: avoid a government shutdown, which is you know this happens 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: every year. Isn't it a temporary resolution? If past is 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: likely to last until March of next year. 59 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust has done your Day's Billy 60 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Beds and a playing store. 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: You talk said bees on Auckland Council. Stephen Joyce wrote 63 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: a really interesting article for The Herald a couple of 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: days ago, which I'll read part of to you in 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: a second. It basically makes a point that although everyone 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: hates and particularly mayors like to hate on Auckland Auckland 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: Transport like to hate on CEOs, they actually do control 68 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: the user just indo adoism, the direction of travel for 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: these CEOs. So you can't just say, oh, it's their 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: fault that the cycle waves are here and all that. 71 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: He said, there is more to it than that. So 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about that in just a few seconds. 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: But just back to South Korea for a second. I 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: have it in my hands now, a translation of the 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: military decree from the Martial Law Commander. It says, and ironically, 76 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: in order to protect liberal democracy from the threat of 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: overthrowing the regime of the Republic of Korea, all political 78 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: activity will cease. This includes the activities of the National Assembly, 79 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: the local councils, and political parties, strikes, workstopposites while they 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: are all outlawed. Violators of the above proclamation may be arrested, detained, 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: and searched without a warrant. This is in accordance with 82 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: the martial law. However, the opposition party reckons that actually 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: you cannot arrest a law maker under martial law, which 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: is exactly what they're saying they would do in that case. 85 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: So we'll keep you updated on what's happening there this morning. 86 00:04:51,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: Just gone eleven after five, Ryan Bridge. So this morning 87 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: a really interesting article out of out of the UK 88 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 3: about older people who fall in love and don't want 89 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: to live together. Apparently you're a lot happier if you 90 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: are in a romantic relationship but living separately, which is 91 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: not to say get a divorce if you're unhappy, but 92 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: if you're finding love. There's a new study out of 93 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: the UK. I'll get to that later on as well. 94 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 4: I used to feel. 95 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: The work screen in the song. 96 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Just the News you Need this morning and the in 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fit City, 98 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture Beds and a playing store News talk 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: sa'd be. 100 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: It's gone thirteen after five. Great to have your company 101 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: this morning. So this is the second to last global 102 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: dairy trade action for the year and it's a doozy. 103 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: It's a great number. The farm Gate milk prices. Obviously, 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: the forecasts have been well, some of them been predicting 105 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: heading north of ten dollars a kilogram of milk solids. 106 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: So this morning's number overall the trade up one point 107 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: two percent. The number we really care about is whole 108 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: milk powder is up four point one percent, which is 109 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: a great number. It's an excellent number. In fact, it 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: has the biggest influence by far on our farm gate prices. 111 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: It's half of our auction by volume, and it was 112 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: up three point two percent at the last auction. That 113 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: was two weeks to go three point two percent. Today 114 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: it's up four point one, so they will be happy 115 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: with that, no doubt. Fourteen after five ran Bridge two 116 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: changes are coming for Auckland transport. The Council is set 117 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: to make so sorry to take back control of policy 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: and planning, and a new Regional Transport Committee will be 119 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: established to work on a thirty year plan for the city. 120 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: Orcand Council will also become a road controlling authority and 121 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: it will share the decision making with the democratically elected 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: local boards. Hopefully, the idea is that we will be 123 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: able to have more say over what happens on our roads. 124 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: The bill making the changes still needs to go through 125 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: Parliament's going to be ages. It'll be like a two 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: year transition. Damien Light is the HOW local board chair. 127 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: He's with me this morning, Damien, good morning, good morning. 128 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: Does this mean that we will have fewer cycle ways 129 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: and raised pedestrian crossings and faster speeds and all the 130 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: things that the government says that people really want in Auckland. 131 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: Well, I hope what we'll see is better decisions being 132 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: made or more responsive to what locals want. And I 133 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 5: think there's a lot of thing about having got what 134 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 5: pedestrian constants they want. Cycle ways, I think people do 135 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: want them, but they want them in the right place. 136 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: And I think that's the good thing about better democratic 137 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 5: oversight and more powerful local boards is you're hopefully more 138 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 5: likely to see pedestrian crossings and cyber ways in the 139 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 5: places where people need them or where they actually want 140 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 5: them to right, Because that's. 141 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: The big thing. I think people think, oh yeay Auckland Transport, 142 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: we're blowing it up, and that means that we're going 143 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: to suddenly get everything but that way we want. If 144 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: you look at How, for example, where you're the chair 145 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: the local board you are now going to be devolved 146 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: specific transport functions over those things, parking, speed limits, you know, 147 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: all those kinds of things. Is it possible that we 148 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: could actually see more of those things because local boards 149 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: might be more gung ho than all can transport was? 150 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the possibility right. But I think the 151 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 5: advantage of democratic oversight is that it gives the public 152 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 5: the ability to express their their happiness or or displeasure, 153 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: I guess with those decisions because we have an election 154 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 5: of meats currently every three years and so the public 155 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: will have a bit of a more say over the 156 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 5: people who are making those decisions. And I think that's 157 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: been the great value of Aukland Transport. 158 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 6: And look, it's a been. 159 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 5: A bit of an experiment in near fourteen years. But 160 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 5: I think what I think most people would accept that 161 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 5: it hasn't really worked way it was intended. You know, 162 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: it was meant to be non political. The idea was 163 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 5: leting it off and say, oh, it's a dependent it's 164 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: not going to get political, and you know it's well 165 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 5: be able to get off to get things done. 166 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 6: I don't think it has. 167 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 5: And I think by ironically, by trying to remove politicians 168 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 5: from it. It's actually made it more for. 169 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: What happens. Well, I suppose it removed the feeling that 170 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: we had control over it despite its saying on a 171 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: CEO title, do you have the local boards have the 172 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: capacity to actually make decisions about transport projects? Now? 173 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, well we do a little bit. 174 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: We have a little bit to say over some projects 175 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: that happen in the area and actually compared or can transport. 176 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 5: The last couple of years, probably the last twelve months, 177 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 5: they've been working really hard to listen to local boards 178 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 5: better and as you respond to what our desires of 179 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: what we said is important, which is great, so that 180 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 5: their organization is capable of doing it, and I think 181 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 5: local boards have shown that they could do it as well. 182 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 5: Hope we need some more advice and support though. So 183 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 5: it's been one of those things, right, It's not it 184 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 5: won't happen over night, but there's a bit of a 185 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 5: bit of a change that's going to need to happen. 186 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and some are definitely going to be a bit 187 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: more on their agenda. I'd say, Damien Light, how local 188 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: board share with us? This morning, just gone eighteen minutes 189 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: after five news talks, I'd. 190 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Been the first word on the news of the day 191 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: earlier Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds 192 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: and a playing store. 193 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: News Talk zibby, Good morning, it is twenty after five. 194 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: Y're on news Talk zb for just joining us. South 195 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: Korea's parliament has now voted because the president there declared 196 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: martial law earlier this morning, about three hours ago. Now, 197 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: South Korea's parliament has now voted to block the martial 198 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: law that's been imposed. That is, despite the fact there 199 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: are reportedly troops inside the National Assembly in Seoul. In 200 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: South Korea, this is a democratic country and there are 201 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: troops inside the parliament. So we'll keep you up today 202 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: with what's happening here this morning. Twenty after five. Bridge 203 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: All Black and Crusaders player Sevy Reese was named yesterday 204 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: as the sports star who admitted to a charge of 205 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: wilful damage driving a car into a garage at a 206 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: Cup Day party in christ Church. He was granted a 207 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 3: discharge without conviction. It is the second time he's been 208 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: discharged without conviction. The last time was in twenty eighteen, 209 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: he admitted to a charge of common assault on his 210 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: then partner. Tony Johnson is the rugby commentated with us 211 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: this morning, tiny, good morning. Right, do you see a 212 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: problem here? He's sorry, he's contrived. He said he's stopped drinking. 213 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: He's been to court. That process is over story end. 214 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: No, not really, you know it's up to him now. 215 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 7: As you say, two rumins alcohol related, the first far 216 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 7: more serious. He has expressed contrition and a desire to 217 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 7: stay away from alcohol to sort himself out. And you 218 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 7: have to stay true to that. Now it's already costing 219 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 7: one lucrative job overseas another repeat, and you can't imagine 220 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 7: it's going to exactly have a positive impact on his 221 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 7: prospects of future employment in the game. I suppose that 222 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 7: the thing is with sports people or anyone in the 223 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 7: in you know, the public eye. You have to be 224 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 7: careful that they don't get tried twice, you know, once 225 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 7: in the courts, once in the court of public opinion. 226 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 3: Do we have too much Do we put too much 227 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: emphasis on them being perfect? I mean, they're all flawed 228 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: humans like the rest of us, are they not. 229 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a really good question because often, you know, 230 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 7: people talk about the need to be a good role model. 231 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 7: To me, that's up to the individual. I mean, don't 232 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 7: get me wrong. Being well paid to play sport as 233 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 7: a privilege, and with that privilege comes the responsibility of 234 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 7: projecting yourself and your sport in a positive light or 235 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 7: at least not to bring the sport of disrepute. And 236 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 7: twice now I guess he's fallen below that line. But 237 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 7: then I suppose you look at it in the broader context. 238 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 7: Our courts are full of young people. A lot of 239 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 7: them are there because the people who should unconditionally be 240 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 7: their role model, their parents have failed them badly. So 241 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 7: why should it really fall on sports people to show 242 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 7: them the way. I don't think that's the case yourself, 243 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 7: that that should come down to sports field. But in 244 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 7: a way, Sebbe Reese has now put himself in a 245 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 7: position where he has no choice but to become a 246 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 7: positive role model otherwise as a risk of his career 247 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 7: could be finished. 248 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, and he's took a step in the right 249 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: direction I think, in doing exactly that. After the discharge 250 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: with that conviction at court yesterday, Tony thank you very 251 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: much for being on the show. Great to have you 252 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: on as always. Tony Johnson Rugby commentated with us just 253 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 3: gone twenty three minutes after five I do think that. Yet, 254 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: all black sports stars in general are not perfect people, 255 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 3: and often we look at them and can think that 256 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: they should be. I think they should be good at 257 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: their job, which is playing rugby or playing netball or 258 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: whatever it is. And can you not look up to 259 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: a flawed character? I mean, obviously if so long as 260 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: you're not still driving around drunk. You know, if you 261 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: have admitted to what you've done, if you are remorseful, 262 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: if you're trying to fix the issue, you should be 263 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: given a second chance. And you can still look up 264 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: to flawed people, can you not? Nine to nine two 265 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: the number to text? Twenty four after five the early. 266 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: Edition Full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News TALKSB. 267 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: You're on news Talks THEREB twenty six after five. Here's 268 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: a question for you this morning. How much will ever 269 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: be enough to spend on health? The answer is there 270 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: will never be enough, So you've got to do with 271 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: what you've got. At least that is what Health New 272 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: Zealand is trying to do at the moment. We spend 273 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: thirty billion bucks a year. That's just tax payer money 274 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: on health. It is middle of the road for the 275 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: OBCD in terms of a percentage of GDP comparisons. Apparently, 276 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: according to Health New Zealand, we're ahead of the likes 277 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: of the UK, Canada and Sweden, but we're behind France, 278 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: Switzerland and Germany. I mean, really, what does all this mean? 279 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: Whether that spending is any good or not is another matter. 280 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: Ask one hundred people about their experience in the health 281 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: system and you'll get a hundred different answers. One answer, though, 282 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: that we should be getting a bit more right, is 283 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: exactly how much we're spending or planning to spend on 284 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: health because how can you know what you're doing unless 285 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: you know what you're spending and on what. Health New 286 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: Zealand revised down its deficit for twenty four to twenty 287 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: five from one point seven billion to one point one 288 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: What does that mean? It means as recently as October 289 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: they told us they'd need five hundred million more dollars 290 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: to run the health system they did yesterday. That's half 291 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: a billion bucks difference in less than two months. Why 292 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: they thought they'd have to pay more for redundancy payments 293 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: and making up for holiday pay And it seems extraordinary, 294 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: doesn't it that you could have such a vast difference 295 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: in such a short space of time. How does this 296 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: keep happening? It comes after the target surplus for this 297 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: year fifty four million, somehow more often to a deficit 298 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: of seven hundred million. Retti and Verel are predictably fighting 299 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: over whose fault. This is as you would expect from politicians. 300 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: But if we could be a little clearer on the 301 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: diagnosis the dollars and the cents being spent, would at 302 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: least be clearer on exactly what it is we're fighting about. 303 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Bray and Bridge. 304 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: Twenty seven minutes half to five news talks. They'd be 305 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: great news on the global dairy trade auction if you 306 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: haven't caught up this morning. I mentioned it earlier, but 307 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: just to repeat, their whole milk powders up four point 308 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: one percent, which is the biggest influence on our farm 309 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: gate milk prices. That was up three point two percent 310 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: at the last option, So that is great news this morning. 311 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: South Korea's parliament has voted to lift marshal law. If 312 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: you're just joining us, the president whose wife apparently was 313 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: being investigated for some corruption charges. There's been a fight 314 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: going on between the government and the opposition there over 315 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: a budget bill that's been going through anyway. The president 316 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: declared martial law, and the South Korean Parliament has now 317 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: which has a majority opposition, has now voted to lift 318 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: the martial law. We're not exactly sure what this means 319 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: or where this goes from here, but there are troops 320 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: reportedly inside the National Assembly in South Korea right now. 321 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: Twenty eight minutes after five on News Talks, hered be 322 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: Rob Campbell on the health cuts coming up just before 323 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: six this morning. We're also going to talk about the 324 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: issue in Otago with the interesting article actual yesterday about 325 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: Australia's experience with the bird flu. We'll talk about that too. 326 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: To drive run hot on the driftlands were a thousand mammables. 327 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 8: Take a look at the driver next to me. 328 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: He's just as driving home, driving. 329 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 8: Driven hard. 330 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty 331 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 332 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: furniture bids and applying store Youth Talks. It'd be. 333 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: Good morning, he said twenty four a wife from Sex 334 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 3: and New Talks. It'd be great to have your company 335 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: this morning. We're going to talk to Rob Campbell about 336 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: health New Zealand's financial woes. Just before six this morning. 337 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: We're also going to the UK to talk the hot 338 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: mess of Europe that is France at the moment, with 339 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: its government on the brink of collapse. Also Finland's lost 340 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: Internet and why they think Russia's involved in South Korea. 341 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: The parliament has voted to lift the martial law you 342 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: would have heard about in the news. Basically, what happens 343 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 3: this morning is the president came out and this is 344 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: a president who everyone says is a lame duck. He's 345 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: been embroiled in controversy for a while now, his wife 346 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: is facing corruption charges, all this kind of stuff's going on. 347 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: And then he comes out and says, right, I'm declaring 348 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: martial law in South Korea, and the military moves in 349 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: like soldiers move into the parliament to the National Assembly. 350 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: Now they still managed to have a vote and the 351 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: parliament voted, and interesting that it was members from both 352 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: the governing party and from the opposition who voted to 353 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: basically block this martial law. This idea of my law 354 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: from the president. So that is where we're at at 355 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: the moment. This has all just happened in the last 356 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: couple of hours. What happens next from here? Well, it's 357 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: anyone's guest. 358 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 6: Really. 359 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: Two is the number to text, lots of you coming 360 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: in on severy reef. We'll get to some of that 361 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: shortly to twenty three away from Sex Ryan Bridge. Come 362 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: on practice into need in this one and come good 363 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: morning to you. The number of chickens that need to 364 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: be culled at that Otago egg farm that's been stung 365 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: with bird flu has now doubled. 366 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 9: Morning Ryany of the coling of these birds begins today 367 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 9: now eighty thousand birds. Two mainland poultry barns at Mordarchy 368 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 9: have now tested positive for the disease. It was first 369 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 9: confirmed on Sunday, but just in the one barn. Now 370 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 9: there's the two. We've spoken with nearby neighbors whose family 371 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 9: members work on the farm, and look, they're quite stressed 372 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 9: about the farm's situation. 373 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: They tell us that. 374 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 9: Stuff were told last week to take time off whilst 375 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 9: the outbreak is dealt with. I. Meanwhile, MPI is confident 376 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 9: that the risks contained to six properties, two of them 377 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 9: belonging to mainland. 378 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: All right, how's denens where they colum. 379 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 9: I mainly find few late afternoon evening showers are strong 380 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 9: westerly developed later tonight where there's a strong windwatch alert 381 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 9: Tonedan's high twenty five. 382 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 3: All right, cul and thank you for that. Clears and 383 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: christ it's this morning clear. A decision on what to 384 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: do with a very contentious intersection is coming today. Thanks right, Ryan. 385 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 10: Look, there have been eighty three crashes in a decade 386 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 10: at this particular Church corner intersection. It's the junction between Rickerson, 387 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 10: Yuldhurst and Maine South Roads. It does put that in 388 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 10: the top three percent of christ Church's riskiest intersections. City 389 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 10: Council has sought some fresh feedback on three new options 390 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 10: to fix that intersection. There have been just under six 391 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 10: hundred submissions. The majority preferred option A, which is to 392 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 10: remove a right hand turn from Maine South Road onto 393 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 10: Rickerton and introduced a signalized pedestrian crossing as well for 394 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 10: those who are at the local retirement village and so 395 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 10: on to get across the road. 396 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 8: Now. 397 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 10: Staff have recommended councilors give that the green light at 398 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 10: a meeting today. With some very minor alters. 399 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: All right, how's the weather clear? 400 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 10: Mainly find a bit of high cloud expected this evening, 401 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 10: light winds with gusty nor westers later on much warmer 402 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 10: though twenty eight Oh. 403 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: It is warm, all right, thank you. Clear Mexican going 404 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: into mesa food producerly has gone bust. 405 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 11: Yeaes sad one. 406 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 7: This. 407 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 11: This is the popular Alamir Bakery which produces Lebanese food 408 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 11: like peter bread, hummus for laffel. It's gone into liquidation 409 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 11: after more than thirty years in business. It's a family 410 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 11: business started by a family had moved here from the 411 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 11: Middle East. Supplied products to supermarkets across the country. It 412 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 11: had two factories in the capital as well, but it's 413 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 11: been tough for them post COVID. Costs kept going up 414 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 11: and they have tried to look into exporting to New Caledonia, 415 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 11: for instance, and partner with hallow Fresh for a time 416 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 11: the government school lunches program they got involved with that, 417 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 11: but it just hasn't been enough and Alamir is closing that. 418 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: Just said, how's your weather today? 419 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 11: Mostly cloudy's Sampachi drizzle, strong norwesterlies getting up to twenty 420 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 11: one in the CBD. 421 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: All right, Max, thank you for that. Max Tolin, Wellington 422 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: and Nevers and Auckland never good morning, good morning, good 423 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: to see you so finally we might get some movement 424 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: on our cycle ways and our speed limits and our 425 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: speed bumps and stuff like that. 426 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 12: That's mainly my topic of discussion, hot topic here in Auckland. 427 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 7: Now. 428 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 12: The mayor says that locals will experience better public transport 429 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 12: under these new reforms. So we know that the government 430 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 12: is taking away Auckland Transports power to make decisions about policy, 431 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 12: planning and strategy, so the key decisions will instead be 432 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 12: made by Auckland Council. Also going to be taking over 433 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 12: the traffic control. Wayne Brown says, look this Auckland Transport, 434 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 12: it's still going to have responsibility to deliver services, adding hopefully, 435 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 12: well this is it, it's going to improve. So he's 436 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 12: saying Wayne Brown is saying that the existing model's broken 437 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 12: because of the poor design. It isn't fit for purpose. 438 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 12: He's not blaming any one person, but it's just that design, 439 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 12: that poor design something. 440 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: Because Steven Joyce did a really good column for The 441 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: Herald the other day about this and he said he said, 442 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: it's a bit of a herrick. This is a bit 443 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: of a manufactured crisis that the council does have control 444 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 3: over the direction of Auckland Transport. But the council would 445 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: need to actually agree amongst themselves what that direction is. Yes, 446 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 3: because how do you know twenty councilors to decide on anything. 447 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 12: We've had crisis point now. Really, if they want people 448 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 12: to get out there in Auckland and use a public transfit, yeah, 449 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 12: they've got to do something. 450 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: Well, it looks like they are. It might take a while, 451 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: a couple of years. How's the weather in the city 452 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: sales tim. 453 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 12: Apart from areas of morning cloud twenty three is high 454 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 12: here in Auckland. I heard clear saying. 455 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 13: Twenty eight in christ weltering, flip in head, neither, thank you, 456 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 13: eighteen minutes away from six news talks in b Maybe 457 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 13: it's finally time to upgrade the couch or get those 458 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 13: appliances sorted right? 459 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: Well, Smith's City has you covered on that this morning? 460 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: They have been nailing it for over one hundred years. 461 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: There's still one hundred percent key we owned, and they've 462 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 3: got everything that you need for your home. 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We'll start in Finland with the Internet outage there, Gavin, 482 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: what's going on here? 483 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 12: Yeah? 484 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 8: So another undersea cable being in this particular instance, it's 485 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 8: a broken fiber optic cable and two separate cuts to 486 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 8: that cable have caused an outage affecting thousands of households, 487 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 8: The Swedish governments saying it does suspect an act of sabotage. 488 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 8: One of the cuts has now been fixed, but repairs 489 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 8: continue on the other one. And well, since the war 490 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 8: in Ukraine with Russia, there have been several cases of 491 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 8: suspected infrastructure sabotage in the Baltic Sea region, just really 492 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 8: in the last couple of months, and almost all the 493 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 8: time the finger has been pointed at Russia. Russia denies 494 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 8: any involvement in this, but it just goes to show, 495 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 8: I think, how fragile the communications network can be. Sweden 496 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 8: has now formally asked trying to cooperate with an investigation. 497 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 8: Is the damage of two cables that were cut in 498 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 8: the Baltic Sea last month. It might have been unintentional, 499 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 8: it might have been a ship dragging its anchor across, 500 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 8: but either way the cables were cut, and in this 501 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 8: instance Sweden believes that, according to a map of the 502 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 8: shipping in area at that time, that a Chinese ship 503 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 8: might be behind that. So all sorts of theories about 504 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 8: this between pretty confident, it's sabotage. 505 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, as you say theories. At the moment, France's 506 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: minority government still on the brink of collectse here. When 507 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 3: are we going to have a vote on this? 508 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 8: It looks like in roughly twenty four hours time. We 509 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 8: should know. This is all because the Prime Minister, Michelle 510 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 8: Barnier was brought in to try and bring some stability 511 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 8: to the government. They need to cut a lot of spending, 512 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 8: they need to increase taxes and surprise, surprise, Ryan, it's 513 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 8: not popular. Indeed, it's so unpopular now that the left 514 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 8: wing parties and the far right parties are now holding 515 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 8: this vote of no confidence and are both saying that 516 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 8: they are going to vote against the Prime Minister Michelle 517 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 8: Barnier staying in power, in which case they can't hold 518 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 8: another election until July. It's going to leave the country 519 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 8: in a complete state of limbo, which has not been 520 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 8: seen for decades. It also means that Michelle Barnier might 521 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 8: the shortest reigning prime minister of the Fifth Republic in France. 522 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 8: He's only really just been appointed by Macron to try 523 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 8: and sort out the finances. And incidentally, if you think 524 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 8: that name is popular or rather well known to you. 525 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 8: Michelle Barneer was involved, of course, representing the EU in 526 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 8: those Brexit trade tools. 527 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe just lasting three months in the job. 528 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: It is twelve minutes away from six very quickly. The 529 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: opposition party speaker, apparently this isn't in Korea. South Korean 530 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: in parliament voted to lift the martial law that the 531 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 3: president imposed earlier this morning. Apparently the opposition party speaker 532 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: had to climb a fence that was one and a 533 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: half meters high tool to get into the assembly because 534 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 3: police had blocked them from getting in. So whoever said 535 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: that politics, Ryan, I don't do a bit of manual labor. 536 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: So it turns out the Health New Zealand's books aren't 537 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: quite as bad as we thought, but the numbers are 538 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: still pretty terrible. The projected deficit for the twenty four 539 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: to twenty five financial year has reduced from one point 540 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: seven billion to one point one billion. In October they 541 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: said one point seven. Now they're saying it'll be one 542 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: point one. The agency has extended its cost cutting raging 543 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 3: by another year to twenty twenty seven, when it's expected 544 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: to return to surpus. Rob Campbell is the former health 545 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: and zent Chaeri is with us this morning. 546 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 12: Rob. 547 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: Good morning, all real a right, good to have you 548 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: on the show. Hey, what are you reading into this? 549 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: I mean, how can they not get the numbers right? 550 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: Two months ago we were told that there would be 551 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: they would need five hundred million extra than they are 552 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 3: actually going to need. 553 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's pretty glic isn't it. But you've got to 554 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 6: see the history of this. I'm afraid to be a 555 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 6: bit boring this. It's not an issue that was created 556 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 6: by tapatu Wara. It's an issue that drags over from 557 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 6: the previous arrangements between the district health boards and the 558 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 6: Ministry of Health, and in some ways it's part of 559 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 6: putting it right. 560 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: How much more do we need to spend to get 561 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: it right? I mean, how much is going to be 562 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: enough in health when we're spending thirty billion a year. 563 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 6: Well, the truth is, no one knows the answer to 564 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 6: that question. But what we do know is a number 565 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 6: of things. First, there are some things, like the big 566 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 6: one is the holiday pay issue, which has to be 567 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 6: done because it's a legal requirement. No One quite new 568 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 6: and probably still doesn't know exactly what the cost impact 569 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 6: of that is. But when it is finally ascertained, it's 570 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 6: a number that has to be found. Secondly, there are 571 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 6: some increases which derive from basic requirements again legal ones 572 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 6: such as pay equity and other pay type requirements, which 573 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 6: again have to be met and can be projected, but 574 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 6: we're badly projected in the previous estimates that were made. 575 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 6: Then we come into the area of much bigger on owns, 576 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 6: and these are particularly We know there is something like 577 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 6: fourteen billion dollars worth of undone deferred maintenance within the 578 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 6: system because of the way it was run before. This 579 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 6: is a terrible load on the system. It can't all 580 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 6: be dealt with in one hit, and maybe some of 581 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 6: it will never be dealt with, But that is an 582 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 6: issue which cutting staff and making the other cuts that 583 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 6: are being made simply can't do anything about. And then 584 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 6: finally there is the new capital requirements outstanding in the 585 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 6: new hospital and the need and in other places again 586 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 6: where need has been demonstrated but the system has not 587 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 6: been estimating or controlling its costs very well. This is 588 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 6: all an outcome of what we needed to change. 589 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but those estimates that you're talking about very quickly, 590 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: who's making these estimates. How are they getting them so wrong. 591 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 6: Or old to fartow work. It's caught middle of this 592 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 6: TAFAO work is trying to pull together figures from the 593 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 6: plenty eye previous district goss boards. That's one part of it, right, 594 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 6: But the main people who have always been in control 595 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 6: of this have been the Ministry of Health and Treasury. 596 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 6: They're the people who have had no changes significantly made 597 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 6: to them in this respect. Ministry lost some stuff to 598 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 6: PA to Ora, but it's basically the historical people who 599 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: have got the main responsibility to this and the key 600 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 6: thing is to fight to or the Commissioner or however 601 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 6: it is organized. Can't staff cut and staff restrict cost 602 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 6: to make this better? 603 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much for being with me this morning. 604 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Rob Campbell, former Health New Zealand Chair on 605 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: the deficit reduction deficit good, but deficit big still bad. 606 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: It is eight away from Sex News Talk SEB on. 607 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Ryan 608 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a 609 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: playing Store. 610 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: News Talk ZB six to six on News Talk CB 611 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: and South Korea. People are gathering outside the National Assembly, 612 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: why the president called the state of martial law the 613 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: parliament has in South Korean parliament has now voted to 614 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: lift that martial law. It's a little bit uncare of 615 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: this point exactly what is going on, but Micha will 616 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: be covering that on his show. He's with us this morning. 617 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: Good morning. I'm trying to work. 618 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 14: Out that he was claiming the president, he was claiming 619 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 14: that it had something to do with North Korea, and 620 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 14: he was second sec of the way things were going. 621 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 14: And I assume he knew that in doing what he did, 622 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 14: that they could unvote. 623 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, what he did. And there's some he says, some 624 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: insidious people inside the parliament. 625 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 14: Well, that's true in all parliaments, isn't it. 626 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: But we don't. We don't declar marshal law. Well do we? 627 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 14: I mean I could declare martial law this morning. 628 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: Some so I do. 629 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 14: I can name you half a dozen in citious people. Immediately, 630 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 14: I was watching Old I was watching that press conference 631 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 14: yesterday with Auckland Transport. 632 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: Oh the Browns. Yeah, here's my problem with the code Brown. 633 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: So you hate. 634 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 14: Auckland Transport, right, everyone everyone hates Auckland Transport. But what 635 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 14: you've done is you go, we hate you, so we're 636 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 14: taking some power away from you, and everyone goes, oh cool, 637 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 14: who are you giving it to? You're going to give 638 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 14: it to the council. 639 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: I mean how local boards? Yeah, how good are they? 640 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: But also, but you're creating a new entity that will 641 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: share the power with local boards. I mean that's one 642 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: hundred different. 643 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 14: People hundred so one hundred different ideas. Everyone's got an agenda. 644 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 14: So part of the idea makes sense, and in theory 645 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 14: it makes sense because you know what his argument is 646 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 14: that you know, in democracy you can participate, you can 647 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 14: feel like you know, but no one turns up to 648 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 14: vote for a start. 649 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: No, and no, who do you know who your local 650 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: board members are? 651 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 14: No one cares. 652 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: And Stephen Joyce, did you see that piece from him 653 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: a couple of days ago where he said, actually that 654 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: the council does have control over Auckland transfer ort, it 655 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: just can't make up its mind about what it wants 656 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: to do exactly. 657 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 14: I mean, the reason Auckland is the way Auckland is 658 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 14: is because of the council, isn't it think about it? 659 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 14: I mean, Auckland's not one to be great cities in 660 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 14: New Zealand and it's at least partially the responsibility of 661 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 14: the council. 662 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: So suddenly they've. 663 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 14: Got more power to do what they've been doing. So 664 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 14: does that fill you with confidence? 665 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: I also Auckland is too, doesn't it? They're not great 666 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: people to be around. 667 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 14: Good on you, right, how do your ratings? 668 00:33:52,880 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 3: Have a great day everyone. 669 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 670 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 671 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.