1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: The first part of the military style boot camps has 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: finished up and the kids are now going to transition 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: back into the community. Now its ten young people. They 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: had three months in the boot camp where they learnt 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: things like how to iron their clothes, how to keep 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: their rooms clean. Now they're going to move back into 7 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: the community with support for the next nine months. The 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Minister for Children is Karen Sure Hey. 9 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Karen, oh hey, how's it going good? 10 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Thank you? So what does the support for the next 11 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: nine months look like? Oh? 12 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: So each young person has a real detailed plan going 13 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: back into the community, working with their intensive mentor that 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: that they're matched to, and also with their social workers 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: and their FARO. 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what are these people doing to help them? 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: So the mentors will be there to help guide them 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: through things of day to day life, whether it be 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: getting a job, whether it be helping them navigate the 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: independent and a home. Anything that they need help with. 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: This mentor will be there side by side working with them. 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: And sense of visit, I mean, is it like multiple 23 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: hours a day or just as and when you need them? 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: What are we talking about? 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: So that will be part of an individualized plan that 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: has been put together depending on that young person and 27 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: what they needed. So the young person kind of steered 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: the direction of what they saw success being and the 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: plan was wrapped around that to help them achieve what 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: they wanted to achieve. So it'll be different for each 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: young person. 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so they leave the boot camp with a kitbag, right, 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: and they've got things like photo idea bank account, a CV. 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: Would they normally not have those things? 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: Oh? No, And this is the issue. I mean, we 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: take for granted that we have these things or we 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: know how to get these things, but without it, it's 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: it's nearly impossible to do basic things like get a 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: job because you need an IRD number and you need 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: a bank account to get a job, and you also 41 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: need photo ID to do that also. So we've made 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: sure that we've set them up with these basic things 43 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: that will make a real big difference. 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Have you seen a change in these kids? 45 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: Well? Absolutely, I mean it's something that I will not 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: forget for a really long time, just seeing the pride 47 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: not only in the young people's faces, but in their 48 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: faros faces as well. When they graduated the first stage 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: of this program. It's massive difference in their confidence, their 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: self esteem, and even in their manners to be perfectly honest. 51 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: Really, the manners, Yeah, it's just looking you. 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: In the eye when you're talking to you, shaking your hand, 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: and just the smiles. They are massive for me. It's 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: an absolute inspiration for what can be done when we 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: actually make an effort to support young people. 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: Now, now, the thing is, Karen, a lot of this 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: will just be role modeling. Right. If you're around people 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: who don't look other people in the eye, including you, 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: that's the behavior as a kid that you mimic. And 60 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, you're in a boot camp 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: with people who do look you out in the eye, 62 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: you start copying that. Aren't they just going to go 63 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: back to the way the way that they were once 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: they're back in their usual surroundings. 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: Well, well that's the whole point. The biggest focus is 66 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: when they go back into the community, because I've said 67 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: quite a few times lessons learnt from previous military style academies. 68 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: For them to work, there needs to be a massive 69 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: change in how we deal with these young people once 70 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: they leave. We can't just close the door behind them 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: and say that's that we've done our job. We have 72 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: to help them with that transition back to the community, 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: finding employment, going back to school and doing the things 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: that most young people get in a day without even 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: having to think about it. 76 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so when does the next lot come in? 77 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: So we're running this pilot. So first stage done. Second 78 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: stage is the community transition and also we've got the 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: assessment stage that we need to be working through as well. 80 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: We're looking at put putting them introducing the more law 81 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: change in par at the end of this year. Hopefully 82 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: that will be past beginning of next year, and then 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: we can start seeing police and judges having the ability 84 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: to use this as a sentencing tool. 85 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Good stuff. I thank you, Karen, beings of luck with it. 86 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Karen's your Minister for Children. For more from Heather Duplessy, 87 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Alan Drive, listen live to news talks they'd be from 88 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.