1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: With me right now though we've got out of Australia. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Oli Peterson six pr Perth Life presenter, Hayoli Hey, Heather. Okay, 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: So how many people have put their hands up for 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: the Liberal Party leadership now? 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Well two and a half. 6 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: So you've got Susan Lee, You've got obviously Angus Taylor, 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: and now Tim Wilson is flirting with the idea he 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 3: won Goldstein from Zoey Daniel. He's flirting with the idea 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: of trying to perhaps potentially wrestle the leadership away from 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: probably Angus Tayley. You'd imagine he's the front runner there 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: tomorrow when the Liberal Party meets. Wilson is considered one 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: of the moderates. There's not many moderates left in the 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Liberal Party at the moment. It would probably be unlikely 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: he'd have enough support from his colleagues. 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what fresh face. He looks good. 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: Put him on the ticket as leader or deputy, give 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: them a fresh start. How old is angers Angus Taylor's 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: I reckon he's in his fifties. 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: He might haven't been a bit older. 20 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: He might have been closer to sixty, to be honest, 21 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: fifty eight I read a. 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Really interesting piece on this which was that neither Angus 23 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Taylor nor Susan Lee will ever become the prime minister 24 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: because both of them too old really and the placeholders 25 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: because by the time the next election rolls around is 26 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: probably going to be a generational change. 27 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: What do you think? 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: Probably, I think the difficulty is most Australians don't really 29 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: know either Angus Taylor or Susan Leeve. Tim Wilson's forty five, 30 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 3: so I think you probably need him on the ticket. 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: I think him is either the leader or the deputy. Look, 32 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: the big victory that the government had at the polls 33 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: last weekend sets it up for not just this term 34 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: but the following term. So maybe the next leader of 35 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: the Liberal Party isn't even you know us, the next leader, 36 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: next Prime minister from that side of the fence isn't 37 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: even in the parliament yet. 38 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, And so talk me through the Nationals. 39 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: So Matt Canavan, he's putting up his hand to take 40 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: on David Little Proud. He will not win the leadership 41 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: of the National Party. But Matt is a hardcore right 42 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: member of the party. He argued on the Today Show 43 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: this morning that they were told to tone things down 44 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: in the lead up to the election because the Liberals 45 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: were getting a bit nervous. The relationship between the Nats 46 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: and the Libs is quite soad as we speak, Heather 47 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: and just since Price has defected from the National Party 48 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: room to the Liberal Party room, she's even a potential 49 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: candidate for Deputy leader tomorrow in the Liberal Party. That 50 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 3: has really soured those relations between the coalition partners. 51 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: And the fact that the NATS only now have. 52 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: Five senators, with just Enterprise going to the Libs that 53 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: makes it four in the upper house of the Australian Parliament. 54 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: They're not actually qualifying now as a. 55 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: Party, so they don't get all the resources and the 56 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: back room staff to be able to do the work 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: that the coalition's junior partner's already had. So there is 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: some talk within the Nats they might just tell the 59 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: Libs to get stuffed and go and sit by themselves independently, 60 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: which is funnily enough, what happens on this side of 61 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: the country. The Libs in the NATS in Western Australia 62 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: are not in coalition, they're in an alliance and they 63 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: always stress to us in Wa that they are very 64 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: much their own parties but will come together to support 65 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 3: supply or you know, they come together with commonalities. 66 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: And what did you make of the cabinet lineup? 67 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's really interesting that Tanya Plibasik has 68 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: been moved from Environment to Social ste Servis because obviously 69 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: Anthony Alberize doesn't like her and she doesn't like him, 70 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: so he's been able to move probably his biggest rival 71 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: and threat, Mark Butler. 72 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: Who's the Health Minister. 73 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: He also takes on the challenge of National Disability Insurance Scheme. 74 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: That's a mammoth portfolio. So good luck to Mark Butler. 75 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: And I note Michelle Rolins the new Attorney General because 76 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: Mark Drafison ed Husick were dumped over the weekend. Ed 77 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: Hughsick described the Deputy Prime Minister, Richard Marles as a 78 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: factional assassin. 79 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: So they have had a big victory last week here 80 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: the heather. 81 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: And you think, oh, it's all hunky dory here because 82 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: you've got so many backbenches and so many divisional divides 83 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: amongst the factions and the unions. There is a hell 84 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: of a lot of infighting going on in the Prime 85 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: Minister didn't come to the aid of two of his 86 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: most senior cabinet ministers. He said, nup, that's up to 87 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: the factions, that's up to the caucus to deside who 88 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: they put forward. So it's a big test already of 89 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: his leadership and it shows that Albo runs the roost 90 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: and he's maybe not prepared to fight for anybody or 91 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: save anybody at this stage. 92 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: Interesting. 93 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Now, what's going on with is Ozzie who's in the 94 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Iraq. 95 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: Well, he's about to die, they reckon because he's got 96 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: lung cancer. This is a terrible story. This man has 97 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: been behind bars in Iraq now for four years. Robert Peether, 98 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: he was put behind bars. The family claims over some 99 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: odd links between his company and the Iraqi governments. He 100 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: had to sign in Arabic a confession which he didn't understand, 101 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 3: they say. 102 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: Four years ago. 103 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: So the charges they argue are trumped up. But he's 104 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: been in bag that hospital. 105 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: They reckon. He's got lung cancer while he has been 106 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: in prison. 107 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: But he's not even being given now basic help or 108 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: assistance if he is battling lung cancer. His family obviously 109 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: raising the alarm. There hasn't been much from the Australian government. 110 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: To be honest, there's been a little bit from the 111 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: Irish government because they live in Ireland as well, but 112 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: not much from the Australian government. I've got to say 113 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: it's a bit of an unfortunately sleeper issue in Australia. 114 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: At the moment, the plight of poor Robert Peter. 115 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: But when you dig into the story and what he 116 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: is going through and the lack of representation and the 117 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: allegations here of what might have gone on in the 118 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: Iraqi justice system, you'd think that the Australian government might 119 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: want to intervene calling for his release the Guard the 120 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: Australian government calling for his release. But you haven't had 121 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: Penny Wong on the front pages. You haven't seen on 122 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: the television screaming that from the rooftop. So let's hope 123 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: you get some help in the government's able to provide 124 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: some consular assistance at least. 125 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: To the poor bloke. 126 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Hey, Ollie, thank you. 127 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: Has always appreciated. 128 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Oliver Peterson six pr per Live presenter out of Australia. 129 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 130 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays or follow 131 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio,