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Speaker 2: All right, welcome into the Mattin Tyler Podcast. Maddie was

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Speaker 2: away today. He was entertaining the good people of the

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Speaker 2: Air Force and Ohakia and having a ball of a time.

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Speaker 2: He sent through a photo of being in the cockpit

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Speaker 2: a good idea. He was having a good time though.

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Speaker 2: But the show today had some great chat about kids

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Speaker 2: and politics. When do you start talking to your kids

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Speaker 2: about politics? How young is too young? Do you rip

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Speaker 2: him out of school? If the protest is right? That

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Speaker 2: was after one o'clock. That was a good chat, got

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Speaker 2: a bit gnarly. Then after two o'clock we talked about

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Speaker 2: compensation for businesses being mucked around by roadworks, as is

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Speaker 2: the case in Thornton, Key and Wellington. Then a massive

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Speaker 2: chat about inflatable tents. I wasn't convinced inflatable tents. When

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Speaker 2: you talk about, you know, tents that you've got to

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Speaker 2: my the amount of people that came through saying they

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Speaker 2: will catch you again tomorrow, see you then.

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Speaker 3: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: You welcome into the show seven past one. I hope

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Speaker 2: you're doing well on this Thursday. No Matt Today he

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Speaker 2: is at Ohakia Airbase inspiring the next generation of acadets.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe that? But he's having a ball of

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Speaker 2: don't worry about that. Will end the week in style.

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Speaker 2: But onto today's show. So I've got a bit of

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Speaker 2: this problem after three o'clock. But through a series of

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Speaker 2: Are they all that they are cracked up to be?

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Speaker 2: After two o'clock, construction crews have begun tearing up already

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Speaker 2: of people are quite uncomfortable when you see these big protests,

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Speaker 2: Talks, there'd be It is sixteen past one. Kids in politics?

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Speaker 2: Love to hear from you. Oh eight, one hundred and

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Speaker 4: So to start off with, I grew up in politics.

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Speaker 4: My dad was in the local council and highly involved

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Speaker 4: I brought up my kids always talking about politics. Of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's healthy. Sandra. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: I think that is important. But I suppose the hang

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Speaker 2: your kids into that conversation? For you, did you have

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Speaker 4: No, I think because for me, I grew up always

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Speaker 4: hearing it. I was always aware of it growing up.

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Speaker 4: So my kids were also aware of it growing up

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Speaker 2: a very political family when you grew up, did your

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Speaker 1: Putting the time questions to the newspeakers, the mike asking breakfast.

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Speaker 13: You can hold the presses. Because the government has released

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Speaker 7: We are bit surprived by and please buy it.

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Speaker 2: Would you let your kids leave school for some sort

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Speaker 16: It is what it says.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, ray Lean. It is twenty six

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Speaker 11: much currency in this country anyway. But the thing is

438
00:22:49,693 --> 00:22:52,573
Speaker 11: that these kids are just kids. They don't understand what's

439
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Speaker 11: really going on. They'll hear their mum and dad talk

440
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Speaker 11: to benow men and they'll go, oh, what's that?

441
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Speaker 18: And they learn.

442
00:23:01,573 --> 00:23:05,573
Speaker 11: As they grow, but they don't understand what this whole

443
00:23:05,653 --> 00:23:08,293
Speaker 11: thing is about. So there's hrcy is coming from Auckland

444
00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:11,213
Speaker 11: down to Wellington so they have the ones an Awks,

445
00:23:11,213 --> 00:23:13,773
Speaker 11: they can their whole kids out of school for how long?

446
00:23:14,133 --> 00:23:16,173
Speaker 11: I think it's just absolutely ridiculous.

447
00:23:17,493 --> 00:23:19,333
Speaker 2: Well look, I tend to agree with you Kieran. When

448
00:23:19,373 --> 00:23:24,093
Speaker 2: it comes to primary school children. Does that equation start

449
00:23:24,173 --> 00:23:28,213
Speaker 2: to change if they are fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old?

450
00:23:28,413 --> 00:23:32,453
Speaker 11: Yeah, a little bit different, I think. But you see,

451
00:23:32,733 --> 00:23:37,093
Speaker 11: you know, than these young kids. And it just breaks

452
00:23:37,133 --> 00:23:39,973
Speaker 11: my heart because they really don't know, you know, and

453
00:23:40,813 --> 00:23:44,453
Speaker 11: all kids want to do with the play and now

454
00:23:44,533 --> 00:23:48,213
Speaker 11: they don't understand politics. They can see things and then

455
00:23:48,413 --> 00:23:50,093
Speaker 11: you're stuck in their head, you know, because it was

456
00:23:50,133 --> 00:23:55,533
Speaker 11: a lot of big sponge they really are, so when

457
00:23:55,613 --> 00:23:59,413
Speaker 11: they are going for these hikoy and you know, I've

458
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Speaker 11: got lovely Met Murray friends and stuff right there. But

459
00:24:03,213 --> 00:24:06,533
Speaker 11: sometimes it's just a little bit overcool. I think just

460
00:24:07,333 --> 00:24:09,613
Speaker 11: come back to a little bit it and just look

461
00:24:09,693 --> 00:24:14,773
Speaker 11: at everybody in New Zealand. We're not just Marrows, but

462
00:24:15,333 --> 00:24:16,613
Speaker 11: all here is tea week.

463
00:24:17,213 --> 00:24:20,532
Speaker 2: Do you talk to your children about various social issues?

464
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Speaker 8: Uh?

465
00:24:23,213 --> 00:24:29,933
Speaker 18: Well yeah I do, Like, yeah, how would I'll put it?

466
00:24:30,173 --> 00:24:35,133
Speaker 11: You know, I'll always be there to listen to what

467
00:24:35,213 --> 00:24:36,933
Speaker 11: they had to say, or they had a bad day

468
00:24:36,973 --> 00:24:43,893
Speaker 11: at school, social issues, the social media, it's a different story.

469
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Speaker 19: It is very hard.

470
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Speaker 11: But I will never get my child a cell phone.

471
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Speaker 2: How old are your children's sorry Karen, sorry? How old

472
00:24:53,813 --> 00:24:54,373
Speaker 2: are your children?

473
00:24:58,733 --> 00:24:59,053
Speaker 11: Seven?

474
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Speaker 19: And nine?

475
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Speaker 20: Ye?

476
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Speaker 2: Well, that that is too young and in my view

477
00:25:04,613 --> 00:25:06,413
Speaker 2: and a lot of other people's view for a cell phone.

478
00:25:06,733 --> 00:25:08,253
Speaker 2: But just you know, if your nine year old came

479
00:25:08,453 --> 00:25:10,653
Speaker 2: you and there was a lot of action over in

480
00:25:10,733 --> 00:25:15,413
Speaker 2: the US during the the election, clearly that was everywhere.

481
00:25:15,733 --> 00:25:17,333
Speaker 2: But if your nine year old came up, jin said,

482
00:25:17,373 --> 00:25:19,253
Speaker 2: you know, what's going on over them? I'm or I've

483
00:25:19,293 --> 00:25:21,533
Speaker 2: read seen something on social media. I know they don't

484
00:25:21,573 --> 00:25:23,653
Speaker 2: have a phone, but they might have been told something. Yeah,

485
00:25:23,653 --> 00:25:25,733
Speaker 2: I saw something on TV. And what's all this pilavor?

486
00:25:25,773 --> 00:25:28,093
Speaker 2: And why people are why are people getting so upset

487
00:25:28,173 --> 00:25:30,853
Speaker 2: or over this thing? Is that a difficult conversation to

488
00:25:30,933 --> 00:25:31,773
Speaker 2: have with a nine year old.

489
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Speaker 11: I'll just say, oh, it's all right down, you know,

490
00:25:35,413 --> 00:25:39,253
Speaker 11: I go just having an election and some people disagree

491
00:25:39,413 --> 00:25:43,493
Speaker 11: and I don't disagree. Yeah, you know, And you know

492
00:25:43,573 --> 00:25:46,013
Speaker 11: when I was growing up, you know, I heard two

493
00:25:46,053 --> 00:25:48,773
Speaker 11: sides of the family. One was labor, one was national,

494
00:25:49,373 --> 00:25:52,293
Speaker 11: but we didn't fight about it at all, and I

495
00:25:52,373 --> 00:25:55,933
Speaker 11: was really protected from that as well, and we just

496
00:25:55,973 --> 00:25:59,933
Speaker 11: didn't discuss that they everybody had their views and we've

497
00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:00,853
Speaker 11: didn't criticize it.

498
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

499
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just thinking of my own situation here, and

500
00:26:05,613 --> 00:26:08,133
Speaker 2: it's it was similar to yours. Is that my dad,

501
00:26:08,933 --> 00:26:16,013
Speaker 2: I believe, voted differently. And when we would have I

502
00:26:16,053 --> 00:26:18,133
Speaker 2: would have a conversation with Dad and he would give

503
00:26:18,173 --> 00:26:20,693
Speaker 2: me information about something that was happening in the news

504
00:26:20,773 --> 00:26:23,053
Speaker 2: that was the issue of the day, and then when

505
00:26:23,093 --> 00:26:24,853
Speaker 2: I have a chat with Mum, she would have an

506
00:26:24,893 --> 00:26:27,813
Speaker 2: opposite view of that particular issue. And to me, that

507
00:26:27,933 --> 00:26:29,973
Speaker 2: was a good thing because that lead me, as a

508
00:26:30,053 --> 00:26:32,973
Speaker 2: young teenager to think, well, neither of you guys really

509
00:26:33,613 --> 00:26:35,653
Speaker 2: agree on this thing. So clearly there's a bit more

510
00:26:35,693 --> 00:26:38,373
Speaker 2: to this, and hopefully once I got a bit older,

511
00:26:38,413 --> 00:26:40,133
Speaker 2: well clearly I did. I started making up my own

512
00:26:40,173 --> 00:26:42,173
Speaker 2: mind about how I thought about those things when.

513
00:26:42,013 --> 00:26:44,173
Speaker 11: I was a teenager, not when I was in primary

514
00:26:44,213 --> 00:26:47,773
Speaker 11: school or you know, so you learn as you go

515
00:26:48,093 --> 00:26:49,973
Speaker 11: and you think all of a sudden, you think, what's

516
00:26:50,013 --> 00:26:52,413
Speaker 11: all that about? Well, why is the selection happening? And

517
00:26:52,453 --> 00:26:54,453
Speaker 11: then you know your peers will sit down and talk

518
00:26:54,453 --> 00:26:58,093
Speaker 11: to you a little bit about it. But I just

519
00:26:58,213 --> 00:27:02,173
Speaker 11: think taking kids out are school so much. Trump say,

520
00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:04,573
Speaker 11: you know that's education system.

521
00:27:05,893 --> 00:27:11,813
Speaker 2: Just yeah, I know, yeah, No, Kieren, thank you very much. Sorry,

522
00:27:11,853 --> 00:27:14,853
Speaker 2: we've got the kind of a couple of air brakes

523
00:27:14,893 --> 00:27:16,493
Speaker 2: we need to get away. But thank you very much

524
00:27:16,533 --> 00:27:19,052
Speaker 2: for your phone call. Really enjoyed that. It is twenty

525
00:27:19,173 --> 00:27:20,653
Speaker 2: one minutes to two. We'll get to more of your

526
00:27:20,693 --> 00:27:22,693
Speaker 2: calls very shortly. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

527
00:27:22,813 --> 00:27:23,333
Speaker 2: is the number.

528
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Speaker 3: Call your new.

529
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Speaker 1: Home of afternoon Tour and Taylor Adams Afternoon call. Oh,

530
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Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talk said, be.

531
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Speaker 2: Very very good afternoon to you. It's eighteen to two, Peter,

532
00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:38,653
Speaker 2: good afternoon.

533
00:27:39,493 --> 00:27:40,133
Speaker 12: Hey, Tyla.

534
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Speaker 21: I took my fifteen year old girl down to Parliament

535
00:27:44,693 --> 00:27:49,893
Speaker 21: Grounds during the occupation. The head down there one from

536
00:27:49,933 --> 00:27:55,333
Speaker 21: the point of showing her that this is her right

537
00:27:55,493 --> 00:28:00,453
Speaker 21: to piece of peacefully protest and to show her that

538
00:28:00,693 --> 00:28:04,493
Speaker 21: what she's watching on TV is not necessarily what's going

539
00:28:04,613 --> 00:28:09,573
Speaker 21: on on the site. So she was apprehensive apprehensives at

540
00:28:09,693 --> 00:28:13,653
Speaker 21: first about going up to the very front where or

541
00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:17,093
Speaker 21: the action was, so to speak. But once we left

542
00:28:17,173 --> 00:28:21,613
Speaker 21: she realized that it wasn't what their media was reporting.

543
00:28:21,733 --> 00:28:25,653
Speaker 21: You know, there was different different fractions within the group

544
00:28:25,773 --> 00:28:29,573
Speaker 21: there that were trouble makers, other people that was people.

545
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Speaker 21: And I just believe that is really important for her

546
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Speaker 21: as a young child that's growing up, that this is

547
00:28:37,733 --> 00:28:43,293
Speaker 21: your right as a New Zealander to peacefully protest your opinion,

548
00:28:43,533 --> 00:28:47,893
Speaker 21: and regardless of what side she decides to follow when

549
00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:51,813
Speaker 21: she becomes an adult at the post of the school,

550
00:28:52,533 --> 00:28:57,853
Speaker 21: I disagree with them pulling or allowing kids to go

551
00:28:57,973 --> 00:29:02,293
Speaker 21: out a protest unless it's the whole school that's going

552
00:29:02,893 --> 00:29:06,093
Speaker 21: and they're in the uniform, if they wear uniforms. But

553
00:29:06,173 --> 00:29:09,213
Speaker 21: it will never happen because as you know, they have

554
00:29:09,413 --> 00:29:13,973
Speaker 21: to ask for permission, slips, and they're always asking for

555
00:29:14,173 --> 00:29:16,533
Speaker 21: parent help, and they don't have enough stuff to do it.

556
00:29:16,693 --> 00:29:20,533
Speaker 21: So yeah, no, I shouldn't be allowed out unless it's

557
00:29:20,973 --> 00:29:24,813
Speaker 21: the whole school or the whole year group going together.

558
00:29:25,013 --> 00:29:28,453
Speaker 21: None not just starting to go to McDonald's or the beach.

559
00:29:28,973 --> 00:29:31,653
Speaker 21: They need to go together, you know, ye are they

560
00:29:31,733 --> 00:29:33,573
Speaker 21: going to do it? Do it right? Don't do it

561
00:29:34,173 --> 00:29:35,053
Speaker 21: yeah fast?

562
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Speaker 2: And I think that sound logic. And on your first point, Peter,

563
00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:41,173
Speaker 2: was that because you're your thirteen year old asked you

564
00:29:41,373 --> 00:29:43,333
Speaker 2: to take her down there, or she was asking a

565
00:29:43,373 --> 00:29:46,133
Speaker 2: lot of questions about what was going on and you decided, well,

566
00:29:46,213 --> 00:29:47,133
Speaker 2: we need to go and have a look.

567
00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:50,453
Speaker 21: No, she was getting the wrong with you, right. She

568
00:29:50,653 --> 00:29:54,213
Speaker 21: was seeing a social media side that was wasn't painting

569
00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:57,373
Speaker 21: the full picture, and and a lot of it like

570
00:29:57,853 --> 00:30:03,453
Speaker 21: she knows where I belong politically and being a blended family,

571
00:30:03,613 --> 00:30:07,293
Speaker 21: it's I'm the only one that thanks for us, so

572
00:30:08,133 --> 00:30:11,373
Speaker 21: we she started asking questions was after that, and it

573
00:30:11,573 --> 00:30:13,853
Speaker 21: was more so on the point of the double all

574
00:30:14,373 --> 00:30:17,573
Speaker 21: the double name showed the English Moldi name together and

575
00:30:19,413 --> 00:30:22,213
Speaker 21: they were trying to kill the Maldi language. And I

576
00:30:22,413 --> 00:30:24,373
Speaker 21: had to explain, no, one, I'm not trying to kill

577
00:30:24,413 --> 00:30:28,333
Speaker 21: the Maori language. So they're just trying to use two names.

578
00:30:28,373 --> 00:30:31,573
Speaker 21: And then you actually go research, you'll see that they

579
00:30:31,653 --> 00:30:35,453
Speaker 21: have no intensions of killing the Maori language. But it's

580
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Speaker 21: all what she was seeing from her perspective, and it's

581
00:30:39,973 --> 00:30:42,973
Speaker 21: no different to an adult seen it from their perspective.

582
00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:46,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's slight. Oh clearly, it's a it's

583
00:30:46,453 --> 00:30:49,373
Speaker 2: a different issue. But if she was asking questions about

584
00:30:49,413 --> 00:30:51,493
Speaker 2: what was going on, with this hikoy in this March

585
00:30:51,773 --> 00:30:54,093
Speaker 2: and they're going to be in Wellington, is it today

586
00:30:54,293 --> 00:30:56,253
Speaker 2: or certainly in the next couple of days. And she said,

587
00:30:56,253 --> 00:30:57,813
Speaker 2: I want to go down and see what this is about.

588
00:30:57,813 --> 00:30:58,533
Speaker 2: Would you take it.

589
00:30:58,573 --> 00:31:06,653
Speaker 21: Down if it's outside the school? Yeah, not a brom.

590
00:31:06,693 --> 00:31:08,973
Speaker 21: I think the schooling is more important. Now I'm saying

591
00:31:09,013 --> 00:31:13,853
Speaker 21: that her mother's Molly, their older sisters, they will probably

592
00:31:13,973 --> 00:31:17,853
Speaker 21: join the Ekoi. And if she's with her mother and

593
00:31:18,413 --> 00:31:22,533
Speaker 21: other older sisters, then I'm not gonna. I'm not going

594
00:31:22,573 --> 00:31:25,053
Speaker 21: to kick up a fuss us she's worth a parent

595
00:31:25,653 --> 00:31:28,173
Speaker 21: and I'm not going to be happy with it, but

596
00:31:29,413 --> 00:31:32,613
Speaker 21: you know that's what they feel strongly in, so I'm

597
00:31:32,653 --> 00:31:35,133
Speaker 21: gonna I'm going to back that up. I'm not I

598
00:31:35,293 --> 00:31:40,373
Speaker 21: might not agree with it, but they're doing what they

599
00:31:41,053 --> 00:31:45,173
Speaker 21: were writers in their mind to to peacefully protests.

600
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Speaker 2: So do you sound like a real good dad?

601
00:31:47,213 --> 00:31:47,413
Speaker 9: Peter?

602
00:31:47,893 --> 00:31:50,853
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for giving us a buzz. Colleen,

603
00:31:51,213 --> 00:31:51,653
Speaker 2: how are you?

604
00:31:52,333 --> 00:31:52,453
Speaker 3: Hi?

605
00:31:53,053 --> 00:31:58,653
Speaker 22: Hi, I've got some I'm looking after three grandchildren and

606
00:31:59,813 --> 00:32:02,013
Speaker 22: two of them arrived at me. One is twelve and

607
00:32:02,093 --> 00:32:06,493
Speaker 22: one is forty, And then you know, little politics sort

608
00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:09,733
Speaker 22: of came out. I was absolutely amazed at how much

609
00:32:09,773 --> 00:32:14,493
Speaker 22: they knew about politics. They were well versed in the subject.

610
00:32:16,413 --> 00:32:18,893
Speaker 22: The one thing that really came to mind was they

611
00:32:18,933 --> 00:32:26,453
Speaker 22: were totally dissolutions with politics of today. They you know,

612
00:32:26,573 --> 00:32:29,933
Speaker 22: they were sort of versed by their parents and deft

613
00:32:29,973 --> 00:32:33,533
Speaker 22: wind politics, but they were totally upset it disonder and

614
00:32:33,613 --> 00:32:36,613
Speaker 22: what what happened there. They didn't like. They didn't like

615
00:32:36,773 --> 00:32:40,373
Speaker 22: national because that's to do with rich people. So they're

616
00:32:40,813 --> 00:32:43,093
Speaker 22: more or less, from what I gathered with them and

617
00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:46,013
Speaker 22: their friends, they're more or less forming their own political

618
00:32:46,373 --> 00:32:51,693
Speaker 22: ideas at the moment. It's very very interesting listening to them.

619
00:32:53,133 --> 00:32:55,253
Speaker 22: They really know about the subjects.

620
00:32:58,413 --> 00:33:02,053
Speaker 2: What age that one one was twelve?

621
00:33:02,213 --> 00:33:08,093
Speaker 22: Mine was fourteen when I got them, and so like I,

622
00:33:08,453 --> 00:33:12,133
Speaker 22: I guess they've been looking online, working things up for themselves.

623
00:33:14,253 --> 00:33:20,093
Speaker 22: I've stayed very politically neutralism because I've finally for their

624
00:33:20,213 --> 00:33:26,173
Speaker 22: views very quite fascinating. Actually, I've I've taken them into

625
00:33:26,373 --> 00:33:31,253
Speaker 22: various things. Last week I gotten me and a whole

626
00:33:31,293 --> 00:33:34,333
Speaker 22: lot of other people who were anti Trump got invited

627
00:33:34,373 --> 00:33:41,693
Speaker 22: to a Trump party which had some fairly high earning

628
00:33:44,573 --> 00:33:45,653
Speaker 22: right when people at it.

629
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Speaker 2: Ye names Colleen, but yep, I get your point.

630
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Speaker 23: I'm not.

631
00:33:50,453 --> 00:33:52,573
Speaker 16: Yet carry on, I'm not necessary.

632
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Speaker 22: And it was very very interesting that listening to what

633
00:33:58,973 --> 00:34:02,453
Speaker 22: was going on. I put my grandkids to it, and

634
00:34:02,573 --> 00:34:04,373
Speaker 22: there's some of them, you know, a couple of them

635
00:34:04,373 --> 00:34:08,533
Speaker 22: were cringing when it was coming very clear that Trump was, well,

636
00:34:14,493 --> 00:34:18,253
Speaker 22: I can why they do it in the weekend and

637
00:34:19,053 --> 00:34:25,693
Speaker 22: there is a city at because they're not walking between

638
00:34:25,733 --> 00:34:30,013
Speaker 22: the cities, you know, they just formed these different cities.

639
00:34:30,493 --> 00:34:33,613
Speaker 22: Why they have to do it in school times. It's

640
00:34:33,773 --> 00:34:35,333
Speaker 22: totally against what I believe in.

641
00:34:36,413 --> 00:34:38,813
Speaker 2: But to your first point, and that's very valid, Colin,

642
00:34:38,853 --> 00:34:41,413
Speaker 2: But to your first points, is it about once they

643
00:34:41,573 --> 00:34:43,733
Speaker 2: reach a certain age? And now I suppose that's the

644
00:34:44,493 --> 00:34:46,333
Speaker 2: reason why we're talking about this, but say the fourteen

645
00:34:46,453 --> 00:34:49,893
Speaker 2: year old at that point, to me, it's probably appropriate

646
00:34:49,973 --> 00:34:53,533
Speaker 2: to maybe question why they think a certain way about

647
00:34:53,533 --> 00:34:56,333
Speaker 2: a social issue. Where did they get that information from?

648
00:34:56,573 --> 00:34:58,573
Speaker 2: And that's not to sway them, that's to make them

649
00:34:58,733 --> 00:35:01,853
Speaker 2: still think about the information that they're getting and have

650
00:35:02,013 --> 00:35:04,413
Speaker 2: that critical eye to forming their opinion.

651
00:35:06,013 --> 00:35:12,413
Speaker 22: They definitely got those ideas from these school from people talking.

652
00:35:16,733 --> 00:35:16,853
Speaker 9: Right.

653
00:35:16,933 --> 00:35:17,933
Speaker 22: Some of their ideas are.

654
00:35:17,933 --> 00:35:18,732
Speaker 10: Really really good.

655
00:35:18,813 --> 00:35:22,013
Speaker 22: So they're so politically appearance, it's quite amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Colleen, thank you very much. Lovely to chat. It

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Speaker 2: is ten to two. Oh e one hundred and eighty.

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Speaker 2: Ten eighty is number to call. We'll have time for

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Speaker 2: a couple more phone calls well, quick text to the break, Actually, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: awesome for kids to be politically active as long as

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Speaker 2: it's fair. I hope next time I want to take

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Speaker 2: my kid out of school to support what would traditionally

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Speaker 2: be a right wing cords the scored market is justified

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Speaker 2: as well. That is my problem with the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Keep those taps coming through on nine to nine to two.

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Speaker 1: It is ten to two, Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking

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Speaker 1: your calls on oh eight hundred and eighty.

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Speaker 3: Mad Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Afternoons news talks be seven to two. Charyl, how are you.

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Speaker 24: I'm well, Thanks Tyler. This is an interesting topo, the

671
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Speaker 24: one that I've got my views on. I think if

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Speaker 24: very much depends on the child and their understanding of

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Speaker 24: the issue at hand in some cases, so I don't

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Speaker 24: know if you remember, I'm one of the co founders

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Speaker 24: of Fate Free Kids, so I can use my experience

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Speaker 24: as part of that organization as an example. But I've

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Speaker 24: encountered when we presented a petition to Parliament, you wouldn't

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Speaker 24: really call that a protest.

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Speaker 4: It was an event.

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Speaker 24: It was an event around the presentation of that petition.

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Speaker 24: A lot of people came and a lot of those

682
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Speaker 24: were I'm a Tati or young people, teenagers, and they

683
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Speaker 24: were very well across the issue at hand. They were

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Speaker 24: experiencing the impact of that issue in school.

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Speaker 11: And my own son was there, and as.

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Speaker 24: A parent, I did take him out of school to

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Speaker 24: come and be part of that event, and because it

688
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Speaker 24: was extremely relevant to him. The alternative was that he

689
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Speaker 24: was going to be in school where a whole lot

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Speaker 24: of disruption of his education was happening as a result

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Speaker 24: of said issue, and so I found it was extremely

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Speaker 24: relevant and I advocated to the school that it was

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Speaker 24: going to be much as an unjustified ebsence, and I said, well,

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Speaker 24: if it has to be, it has to be, but

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Speaker 24: here is my justifications for it. And right through We've

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Speaker 24: had many, many times we've been at Parliament, whether it's

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Speaker 24: a help Select committee briefing or a hearing or making submissions,

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Speaker 24: and we've seen a lot of impressive young people that

699
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Speaker 24: have a really good understanding of the issue and are

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Speaker 24: really keen to be part of democracy. And I think

701
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Speaker 24: that is what is happening in terms of you know,

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Speaker 24: other hcoy and movements for various issues we underestimate to

703
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Speaker 24: young people. I think, well, a lot of the callers

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Speaker 24: I've heard seen too, get that there are other platforms

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Speaker 24: that our young people take their news from. I know

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Speaker 24: that when it comes to the Treaty Principled Bill, there's

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Speaker 24: a number of TikTok accounts, for example, that have really

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Speaker 24: good breakdowns so that young people can can consume it

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Speaker 24: and understand it and form an opinion. So I think

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Speaker 24: we shouldn't assume that they just fear for I think

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Speaker 24: one of them for some Americanism. I think one of

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Speaker 24: your other previous callers called it.

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Speaker 2: We can't assume that, and I you what you're saying, Cheryl,

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Speaker 2: But just on the I mean when you mentioned TikTok,

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Speaker 2: and I get your point, and there are some very

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Speaker 2: clever young people out there, no doubt about it. But

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Speaker 2: when you bring social media into the mix, and it

718
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Speaker 2: can be incredibly one sided, and there's nefarious information on

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Speaker 2: those social media platforms, and that's what worries me. But

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Speaker 2: I get your point about as long as a kid

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Speaker 2: or children have that critical lie on the big issues

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Speaker 2: and they can think for themselves, and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: But just quickly, and we've only got thirty seconds. If

724
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Speaker 2: your son and you brought them along and clearly the

725
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Speaker 2: issue that you're talking about, the vast majority of New

726
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Speaker 2: Zealanders agree with you when it comes to vaping and

727
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Speaker 2: children and the number of ape stores. But if he

728
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Speaker 2: said to you, if he came to you and said, actually, Mum,

729
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Speaker 2: I think it's freedom of choice, would you allow him

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Speaker 2: to have that opinion or would you try and convince

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Speaker 2: some otherwise?

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Speaker 24: Well, no, it's illegal, but that particular issue for children, Yes, no,

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Speaker 24: I respect his informed opinions. Because just to go back

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Speaker 24: to your point about the skewed social media social media

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Speaker 24: as media.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, absolutely, Cheryl, thank you very much. Wish we

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Speaker 2: could carry that on. But good discussion. Another one after

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Speaker 2: two o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for Instateful and Entertaining Talk. It's Mattie

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams afternoons on Youth Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zebby Good Afternoons. You welcome back into the show. Just

742
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Speaker 2: me Sila Today Matts is inspiring. The next generation of

743
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Speaker 2: Air Force personnel at Ohakia and they'll be absolutely loving

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Speaker 2: him that. He'll be back on the show tomorrow to

745
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Speaker 2: see out the week in star and good discussion over

746
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Speaker 2: the last hour. We're going to change it up over

747
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Speaker 2: the next hour or so. I want to talk about roadworks,

748
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Speaker 2: and this is roadworks in the Capitol in Wellington. So

749
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Speaker 2: construction crews have begun tearing up already completed roadworks on

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Speaker 2: Thornton Key. This is after the Wellington City Council called

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Speaker 2: for a rework in quotation marks of some sections. So

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Speaker 2: Thornton Key, as you may or may not know, leeds

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Speaker 2: into the Wellington CBD from the north and it is

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Speaker 2: a hub for home weares and finisher shops, among a

755
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Speaker 2: range of other local businesses. So on Wednesday morning, these

756
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Speaker 2: construction crews went back to tear up an already completed

757
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Speaker 2: section of that project. Wall Store Design Center owner. He's

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Speaker 2: one of the businesses affected by these works, Paul Robinson.

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Speaker 2: He said, just two months on from completing that work,

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Speaker 2: they were already changing it. He said, I quote, this

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Speaker 2: is utter madness and I tend to agree with them.

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Speaker 2: A Wellington Council, Wellington City Council rather spokesperson said the

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Speaker 2: rework was required as the Council's Regulatory Process Committee decided

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Speaker 2: to remove some of the raised safety platforms. Now that

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Speaker 2: is madness, isn't it. A change of heart over some

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Speaker 2: raised safety platforms means those businesses are stuffed again for

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Speaker 2: god knows how long they put up with the works,

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Speaker 2: had a completion data in sight, and Bang Council says

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Speaker 2: we've changed our mind. We don't like the raise safety

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Speaker 2: platforms anymore. We're coming back to change it and sorry,

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Speaker 2: you're going to miss out on some more foot traffic.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I want to talk about. Compensation for

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Speaker 2: businesses around these sort of projects. Now, I know this

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Speaker 2: has been banding banded about for a long time when

775
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Speaker 2: it comes to roadworks interrupting and interfering with businesses, and

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Speaker 2: that can open up a can of worms. It can

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Speaker 2: get very tricky and complicated. But in this situation where

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Speaker 2: they've gone back because of a change of heart about

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Speaker 2: raised safety platforms, at that point, I say they absolutely

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Speaker 2: should be compensating the businesses. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety

782
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Speaker 2: two is the text. Because I think most.

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Speaker 12: Of us.

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Speaker 2: Can understand the need for progress in cities to some extent,

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Speaker 2: and I know Wellington has been a basket case for

786
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Speaker 2: a long time. We all understand that. But when they

787
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Speaker 2: have to go back in and tear up already completed work,

788
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Speaker 2: when it is crushing these businesses, that to me is

789
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Speaker 2: deeply unfair and a smack in the face to those businesses.

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Speaker 2: And when we hear these stories again and again and

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Speaker 2: again about businesses being interrupted by roadworks, we can get

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Speaker 2: a little bit outside the frame of what it actually

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Speaker 2: means to those businesses. What they went through to set

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Speaker 2: that up, the blood's wet in tears, what they had

795
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Speaker 2: to put on the line, the amount of hours that

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Speaker 2: they put in setting up those businesses. For councils to

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Speaker 2: turn around do the road works, they lose the foot

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Speaker 2: traffic and what is already a tough economic climate, and

799
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Speaker 2: then change their minds and dig it back up for

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Speaker 2: another couple of months that they're not going to have

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Speaker 2: that foot traffic going through that area. These are people's livelihoods.

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Speaker 2: That is why it's so deeply unfair when you break

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Speaker 2: it down to the personal level. I so feel for

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Speaker 2: these guys, these businesses, because that is their livelihood. That

805
00:43:52,773 --> 00:43:56,413
Speaker 2: is what they have dedicated hours and hours of their lives,

806
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Speaker 2: setting up at great risk to themselves quite often, and

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Speaker 2: it just seems these are flippant decisions by in this

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Speaker 2: case the council. So love to hear from you on this.

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Speaker 2: One oh eight one hundred and eighty is the number

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Speaker 2: to call. Nine two nine two is the text number

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Speaker 2: if you want to send me an email. More than

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Speaker 2: welcome Tyler at Newstalk ZB dot co dot nz. Let's

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Speaker 2: get into it. It is eleven past two.

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Speaker 1: You're on new home of Afternoon Talk and Heathen Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said,

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Speaker 3: be very.

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Speaker 2: Good, afternoon due fourteen past two, and we're talking about

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Speaker 2: compensation for businesses affected by roadworks. And these aren't the

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Speaker 2: initial roadworks. This is on the back of a story

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Speaker 2: out of Wellington Thornton Key, so the council has gone

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Speaker 2: back and decided. So they were already doing roadworks there

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Speaker 2: and it was affecting the businesses and most of the

824
00:44:45,573 --> 00:44:49,253
Speaker 2: businesses by all accounts, we're sucking it up and say, okay,

825
00:44:49,493 --> 00:44:52,693
Speaker 2: not great, but we've got a deadline in sights and

826
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Speaker 2: we hopefully will get through it. But now the council

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Speaker 2: has decided they didn't like the raise safety platform so

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Speaker 2: have gone back or sent the contractors back to dig

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Speaker 2: it back up. And businesses quite rightly say this is

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Speaker 2: utter madness. That's a direct quote from Willstore Design Centerna

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Speaker 2: Paul Robinson, whose businesses is deeply affected by these roadworks.

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Speaker 2: And I say, when it's this situation, the council has

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Speaker 2: changed their mind about the raise safety platforms or whatever

834
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Speaker 2: it may be, and go back and rip it all

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Speaker 2: up for another couple of months. At that point, that's

836
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Speaker 2: a stuff up. That's a big mistake and they should

837
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Speaker 2: compensate those businesses. But what do you say, Oh, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call, Paul.

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Speaker 2: What do you think.

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Speaker 25: Who pays the compensation?

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Speaker 4: Tyler?

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Speaker 17: Wow?

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Speaker 2: This is yeah, this is where it's going to get interesting, Paul.

844
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Speaker 2: Because the Wellington Wellington Council stuff up, it's going to

845
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Speaker 2: come from ratepayers.

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Speaker 25: So maybe we should have a system in place where

847
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Speaker 25: these pounds that are making these decisions and that's all

848
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Speaker 25: you can call them as clowns held responsible for some

849
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Speaker 25: of them, maybe they'd think twice about it. Before they

850
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Speaker 25: actually made the decision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, because this is all about accountability, right.

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Speaker 2: This is what upsets so so many people is when

853
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Speaker 2: these stuff ups happen. And this is clearly a stuff up.

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Speaker 2: This is a mistake that they changed their mind and

855
00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:10,212
Speaker 2: they should have thought about that properly when they knew

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Speaker 2: they were going in to do these roadworks and it

857
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Speaker 2: was going to screw a lot of these businesses. But

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Speaker 2: when it comes to that accountability, what are you talking

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Speaker 2: about heads rolling? People losing their jobs or it comes

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Speaker 2: out of their paycheck.

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Speaker 25: They should lose their jobs. I'm the bilder. If I

862
00:46:26,653 --> 00:46:29,573
Speaker 25: building your house and I put the slab in the

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Speaker 25: wrong place, who pays for that?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: I mean it has to stop.

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Speaker 23: Tyler.

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Speaker 25: We just well, we're treated as if we were an

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Speaker 25: ATM machine.

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Speaker 3: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I suppose that. I mean the argument with

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Speaker 2: this particular situation, it was a council committee and we

872
00:46:48,213 --> 00:46:51,013
Speaker 2: know who are on those committees. Paul is the councilors.

873
00:46:51,573 --> 00:46:53,853
Speaker 2: So when we talk about sacking the council as well,

874
00:46:53,893 --> 00:46:56,813
Speaker 2: there's a Crown observer in there. Now say never, say never,

875
00:46:57,333 --> 00:47:00,493
Speaker 2: But that's you know, when the people in Wellington get

876
00:47:00,493 --> 00:47:02,093
Speaker 2: to the next election. I'm sure there's going to be

877
00:47:02,133 --> 00:47:03,493
Speaker 2: big changes in that council.

878
00:47:05,893 --> 00:47:09,933
Speaker 25: Well, there needs to be. I I'm involved in quite

879
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:13,733
Speaker 25: a lot of committees, and I always find that generally

880
00:47:13,853 --> 00:47:16,253
Speaker 25: people that want to go on committees and tell everyone

881
00:47:16,573 --> 00:47:18,773
Speaker 25: how they should and shouldn't first stuff to be the

882
00:47:18,853 --> 00:47:26,813
Speaker 25: people that have the list amount of knowledge. Yeah you yes,

883
00:47:27,933 --> 00:47:30,333
Speaker 25: it's even like one point two million dollars for a

884
00:47:30,413 --> 00:47:34,252
Speaker 25: Christmas tree and lookment who's actually checked to make sure

885
00:47:34,293 --> 00:47:35,093
Speaker 25: that's for kosher?

886
00:47:35,373 --> 00:47:35,573
Speaker 21: Yeah?

887
00:47:35,733 --> 00:47:37,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we did talk about that a little bit

888
00:47:37,933 --> 00:47:40,853
Speaker 2: earlier this week, and yep, clearly a lot of controverts

889
00:47:40,893 --> 00:47:43,693
Speaker 2: around there. That one was harder because it's Christmas. You know,

890
00:47:43,893 --> 00:47:46,813
Speaker 2: it's a Christmas tree, and that becomes a little bit

891
00:47:46,853 --> 00:47:49,133
Speaker 2: harder as it becomes a motive and kids love Christmas

892
00:47:49,133 --> 00:47:50,773
Speaker 2: and all that. But I get your point, and that's

893
00:47:50,853 --> 00:47:52,893
Speaker 2: the lot of tecks we got through saying how does

894
00:47:52,933 --> 00:47:55,613
Speaker 2: this keep happening again and again and again that these

895
00:47:56,253 --> 00:47:58,333
Speaker 2: as you say, it's like an ATM machine, And we

896
00:47:58,533 --> 00:48:02,093
Speaker 2: just feel like the councils and the governments to a

897
00:48:02,213 --> 00:48:04,333
Speaker 2: lesser extent, but certainly they have in the past, are

898
00:48:04,373 --> 00:48:07,252
Speaker 2: not making sound financial decisions because they feel they don't

899
00:48:07,293 --> 00:48:07,493
Speaker 2: have to.

900
00:48:09,093 --> 00:48:11,613
Speaker 25: Well, they need to be dragged into line because at

901
00:48:11,613 --> 00:48:14,373
Speaker 25: the end of the day, mate, they have got the

902
00:48:14,493 --> 00:48:17,333
Speaker 25: best of the expertise available to them if they need

903
00:48:17,453 --> 00:48:21,692
Speaker 25: to get consultancy or whatever, and maybe they should get

904
00:48:21,733 --> 00:48:25,013
Speaker 25: the stuff here reviewed and then they don't make these

905
00:48:25,093 --> 00:48:29,013
Speaker 25: colossal How can you actually do that work and then

906
00:48:29,053 --> 00:48:32,813
Speaker 25: when it's finished say, oh, hell there was a mistake.

907
00:48:33,013 --> 00:48:34,373
Speaker 25: It's madness mate.

908
00:48:34,613 --> 00:48:37,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, But just going back to the compensation aspect, and

909
00:48:37,413 --> 00:48:39,493
Speaker 2: I get your point about sacking them and a lot

910
00:48:39,533 --> 00:48:41,933
Speaker 2: of the people that decided they wanted to remove these

911
00:48:42,053 --> 00:48:44,812
Speaker 2: raised safety platforms after deciding they were a good idea

912
00:48:44,893 --> 00:48:47,293
Speaker 2: of counselors and their time may or may not come

913
00:48:47,413 --> 00:48:50,453
Speaker 2: during the next election. But when it comes to compensation

914
00:48:50,573 --> 00:48:53,933
Speaker 2: from rates, how do you feel about that? My stance, Paul, genuinely,

915
00:48:53,973 --> 00:48:56,413
Speaker 2: as a ratepayer in christ Church, if this situation happened

916
00:48:56,453 --> 00:48:58,973
Speaker 2: in christ Church and a business was going under because

917
00:48:58,973 --> 00:49:01,333
Speaker 2: it was a council stuff up, I would be okay

918
00:49:01,453 --> 00:49:03,413
Speaker 2: with some of my rates going to that business because

919
00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:05,732
Speaker 2: I can see the unfair nature of it. Yes, it's

920
00:49:05,773 --> 00:49:08,013
Speaker 2: going to cost me as a ratepayer, but I would

921
00:49:08,093 --> 00:49:10,173
Speaker 2: be okay with it going to that business because I

922
00:49:10,253 --> 00:49:13,493
Speaker 2: can see that's a business that is going to crumble

923
00:49:13,573 --> 00:49:14,732
Speaker 2: through no fault of their own.

924
00:49:17,173 --> 00:49:21,173
Speaker 25: Yes, they do need compensation, no doubt about it. But

925
00:49:21,693 --> 00:49:24,253
Speaker 25: you know, at the end of the day, you've got

926
00:49:24,333 --> 00:49:27,013
Speaker 25: to stop being the ones that had paid the compensations

927
00:49:27,013 --> 00:49:29,573
Speaker 25: because we're not the ones that are making these mistakes.

928
00:49:30,253 --> 00:49:33,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, always great to chat mate. Thank you very much, David.

929
00:49:33,693 --> 00:49:35,853
Speaker 2: How are you, yah, Tyler?

930
00:49:36,253 --> 00:49:39,093
Speaker 10: I hope to get your Christmas camping thing sorted it

931
00:49:39,133 --> 00:49:40,133
Speaker 10: out before Christmas.

932
00:49:40,773 --> 00:49:43,733
Speaker 2: Well, the inflatable tents turned out. Man, you should have

933
00:49:43,773 --> 00:49:46,573
Speaker 2: seen the text machine and the emails I've got with suggestions.

934
00:49:46,973 --> 00:49:49,533
Speaker 2: I wasn't wrong. People are loving the inflatable tents. But

935
00:49:49,573 --> 00:49:51,252
Speaker 2: we'll get to that alf to three o'clock David.

936
00:49:52,093 --> 00:49:58,213
Speaker 10: Yes, okay, Look, it's reprehensible that the compensation should not

937
00:49:58,373 --> 00:50:02,093
Speaker 10: be paid, and it's obvious that the Paul retailers have

938
00:50:02,213 --> 00:50:05,973
Speaker 10: been barely trees have. But look, just the slightly wider

939
00:50:06,053 --> 00:50:09,133
Speaker 10: issue is that, as you be aware of the Simeon

940
00:50:09,293 --> 00:50:15,613
Speaker 10: Brown has appoints an observer right to the council and

941
00:50:16,453 --> 00:50:19,973
Speaker 10: there's a lot of discussion on talkback radio with Neck

942
00:50:20,053 --> 00:50:22,853
Speaker 10: Mills that that's not enough, it should have been a

943
00:50:22,893 --> 00:50:29,373
Speaker 10: commissioner because the council officers, the not the Council laws,

944
00:50:29,493 --> 00:50:33,133
Speaker 10: you know, the bearucrats who advised the council we were

945
00:50:33,173 --> 00:50:36,333
Speaker 10: supposed to have made major stuffs up. There's just one

946
00:50:36,413 --> 00:50:43,133
Speaker 10: of many taking up the road again, and it's the

947
00:50:43,213 --> 00:50:46,453
Speaker 10: observed just observes, and he just observes the council. It's nuts.

948
00:50:46,533 --> 00:50:49,213
Speaker 10: He should have gone much further. A commissioner could go

949
00:50:49,373 --> 00:50:53,493
Speaker 10: deep inside the council and root out the dead wood

950
00:50:53,653 --> 00:50:56,613
Speaker 10: and the bad wood. And just one final example the

951
00:50:56,693 --> 00:51:00,973
Speaker 10: bedwood is the advice that the bearacrats gave to Council

952
00:51:01,053 --> 00:51:05,373
Speaker 10: Laws about this whole rabbit whole thing of selling the

953
00:51:05,893 --> 00:51:06,693
Speaker 10: airport chairs.

954
00:51:07,173 --> 00:51:09,413
Speaker 2: May it may still go to the point, David, you know,

955
00:51:09,813 --> 00:51:12,213
Speaker 2: step one is the Crown observer. And the Crown observer

956
00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:14,133
Speaker 2: gets in there and starts to have a look around

957
00:51:14,173 --> 00:51:16,813
Speaker 2: and assess the situation and the books and the behavior

958
00:51:16,853 --> 00:51:19,493
Speaker 2: of counselors. And if he reports back to Simon Brown

959
00:51:19,573 --> 00:51:22,133
Speaker 2: that all is not well and this is far more

960
00:51:22,213 --> 00:51:24,773
Speaker 2: serious than originally thought, then it may end up being

961
00:51:24,813 --> 00:51:25,733
Speaker 2: commissioners appointed.

962
00:51:26,893 --> 00:51:29,053
Speaker 10: Yes, I think a lot of people would have a

963
00:51:29,133 --> 00:51:32,973
Speaker 10: party on that, you know, on the mega hats.

964
00:51:33,053 --> 00:51:36,813
Speaker 2: Maybe well, I'll find out how long it's going to

965
00:51:36,853 --> 00:51:39,533
Speaker 2: take for the Crown Observer to report back to Simeon

966
00:51:39,613 --> 00:51:41,813
Speaker 2: Brown and see if I can find that information out,

967
00:51:42,253 --> 00:51:44,933
Speaker 2: because yeah, look, we all know that the Crown Observer

968
00:51:45,173 --> 00:51:49,893
Speaker 2: was the least egregious option in terms of well that

969
00:51:50,053 --> 00:51:52,813
Speaker 2: was the light touch, right, But that's only step one,

970
00:51:53,293 --> 00:51:55,133
Speaker 2: and his job is to report back to Simmy and

971
00:51:55,173 --> 00:51:58,573
Speaker 2: Brown at some stage about his what he's observed, and

972
00:51:58,813 --> 00:52:01,013
Speaker 2: if he doesn't like what he's observed, or he sees

973
00:52:01,173 --> 00:52:04,373
Speaker 2: behavior within that council that is deeply disturbing, then the

974
00:52:04,453 --> 00:52:06,613
Speaker 2: next step is Commissioner's.

975
00:52:06,053 --> 00:52:09,973
Speaker 10: Clearly he hasn't told you apparently has to report back

976
00:52:10,053 --> 00:52:12,613
Speaker 10: by July, which is months and months away. You know,

977
00:52:12,853 --> 00:52:15,172
Speaker 10: if they're going to be tearing up roads and he's

978
00:52:15,253 --> 00:52:18,853
Speaker 10: poor retailers, you know, they're really suffered, and all the

979
00:52:18,973 --> 00:52:23,652
Speaker 10: interests of cyclists. It's predicted the year twenty thirty four,

980
00:52:23,773 --> 00:52:26,773
Speaker 10: that's going to be four thousand cyclists on along thorns

981
00:52:26,813 --> 00:52:30,413
Speaker 10: and key. Well, I'd love to see the mathematics behind

982
00:52:30,453 --> 00:52:33,773
Speaker 10: that prediction, but you be I want hold you up.

983
00:52:34,053 --> 00:52:39,293
Speaker 10: It's he should have seen in a more thorough investigation

984
00:52:39,653 --> 00:52:40,213
Speaker 10: a commission.

985
00:52:40,253 --> 00:52:42,533
Speaker 2: That's just fair enough and just quickly, David, you don't

986
00:52:42,573 --> 00:52:44,253
Speaker 2: ever spe a holiday home and moral sounds to you.

987
00:52:45,213 --> 00:52:46,212
Speaker 10: I do actually.

988
00:52:47,413 --> 00:52:48,252
Speaker 21: Like Cargo Bay.

989
00:52:48,373 --> 00:52:50,933
Speaker 10: I think you and I've talked about you're like Cargo Bay.

990
00:52:51,253 --> 00:52:51,853
Speaker 10: That's your head.

991
00:52:51,973 --> 00:52:53,813
Speaker 2: Oh maybe maybe, And you have a chat off here

992
00:52:53,893 --> 00:52:56,213
Speaker 2: because I'll mention after three what happened. But it was

993
00:52:56,213 --> 00:52:58,893
Speaker 2: a bit of a bit of a pilava. But David

994
00:52:58,933 --> 00:53:01,013
Speaker 2: always good to chat to you mate. It is twenty

995
00:53:01,093 --> 00:53:02,212
Speaker 2: two past two. Back of the mine.

996
00:53:06,533 --> 00:53:09,893
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams dudes call oh eight hundred

997
00:53:09,973 --> 00:53:11,853
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

998
00:53:12,133 --> 00:53:15,773
Speaker 2: Good afternoon mattaway today, but he's back tomorrow to finish

999
00:53:15,853 --> 00:53:18,413
Speaker 2: the week in style. And we are talking about roadworks

1000
00:53:18,413 --> 00:53:20,973
Speaker 2: in the capitol. In this instance there was roadworks being

1001
00:53:21,053 --> 00:53:24,693
Speaker 2: completed or nearing completion in Thornton Key. The council have

1002
00:53:24,853 --> 00:53:28,013
Speaker 2: changed their mind about a particular part of those roadworks,

1003
00:53:28,173 --> 00:53:31,373
Speaker 2: raised safety platforms and have gone back and dug it

1004
00:53:31,493 --> 00:53:34,653
Speaker 2: back up. And businesses are crying out saying this is

1005
00:53:34,773 --> 00:53:37,573
Speaker 2: utter madness. They are struggling. The end was in sight

1006
00:53:37,773 --> 00:53:40,293
Speaker 2: and now they're back to almost square one. So does

1007
00:53:40,373 --> 00:53:42,212
Speaker 2: he need to be compensation. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1008
00:53:42,253 --> 00:53:43,213
Speaker 2: ten eighty is a number to call.

1009
00:53:43,253 --> 00:53:48,573
Speaker 26: Get Andrew Gooday Tyler. Anybody was more than half an

1010
00:53:48,613 --> 00:53:55,053
Speaker 26: ounce of what's with justice or compassion in their and

1011
00:53:55,173 --> 00:53:59,652
Speaker 26: their brain would have to say Corso's businesses should be compensated.

1012
00:54:00,053 --> 00:54:03,333
Speaker 26: But I think I think the bigger question is is

1013
00:54:04,093 --> 00:54:10,973
Speaker 26: about the incompetence, the lack of accountability of the councils

1014
00:54:11,133 --> 00:54:13,733
Speaker 26: all around the country, you know, and how do they

1015
00:54:13,813 --> 00:54:15,933
Speaker 26: come up with the costs, Like in Auckland you have

1016
00:54:16,013 --> 00:54:21,133
Speaker 26: the windyard bridge, sixteen million dollars to fix it, build

1017
00:54:21,173 --> 00:54:22,653
Speaker 26: a new one planet and so on.

1018
00:54:22,893 --> 00:54:23,733
Speaker 12: It's to fix it.

1019
00:54:24,133 --> 00:54:27,733
Speaker 26: How do they come up with these numbers? You know,

1020
00:54:27,893 --> 00:54:32,493
Speaker 26: the numbers that these people come up with are just extraordinary.

1021
00:54:33,613 --> 00:54:36,293
Speaker 26: And then they say, oh, it'll blow out, so you

1022
00:54:36,373 --> 00:54:38,853
Speaker 26: can you can double that number. You know, if you

1023
00:54:38,933 --> 00:54:41,493
Speaker 26: say sixteen million, it's going to be thirty two million

1024
00:54:41,533 --> 00:54:44,653
Speaker 26: by time they've finished. Well, where's the accountability if I

1025
00:54:45,093 --> 00:54:47,093
Speaker 26: if I around a project like that in my work,

1026
00:54:47,173 --> 00:54:49,293
Speaker 26: I'd be unembroyed by it by lunchtime.

1027
00:54:49,893 --> 00:54:50,133
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1028
00:54:50,533 --> 00:54:53,933
Speaker 2: Well, in the Auckland situation, I think that is more

1029
00:54:54,013 --> 00:54:57,813
Speaker 2: interesting than other places around the country because of the mayor,

1030
00:54:58,133 --> 00:55:01,973
Speaker 2: and he's he's made pains that at the overspending areas

1031
00:55:02,053 --> 00:55:05,293
Speaker 2: that he would consider ludicrous. But I suppose that that

1032
00:55:05,453 --> 00:55:08,692
Speaker 2: paints why it's such a problem that someone like me Brown,

1033
00:55:09,013 --> 00:55:13,053
Speaker 2: who is quite a strident character and he doesn't tolerate fools,

1034
00:55:13,733 --> 00:55:16,732
Speaker 2: he appears to be struggling to get that cut through

1035
00:55:16,813 --> 00:55:19,493
Speaker 2: that these decisions still kept getting made, and he's still

1036
00:55:19,573 --> 00:55:21,853
Speaker 2: in the papers saying what a stupid decision? Why are

1037
00:55:21,853 --> 00:55:24,613
Speaker 2: we spending this money? But as of yet hasn't managed

1038
00:55:24,653 --> 00:55:25,053
Speaker 2: to change it.

1039
00:55:26,253 --> 00:55:26,373
Speaker 20: Oh.

1040
00:55:26,533 --> 00:55:30,333
Speaker 26: Absolutely, but it's you know you, I think you've got

1041
00:55:30,373 --> 00:55:33,533
Speaker 26: to take a look at councils and understand that it's

1042
00:55:33,613 --> 00:55:36,253
Speaker 26: not the elected. It's not the elected councilors that are

1043
00:55:36,333 --> 00:55:42,373
Speaker 26: running it. It's it's the high powered bureaucrats behind them,

1044
00:55:42,533 --> 00:55:45,613
Speaker 26: and highly paid bureaucrats behind them as well. Yeah, and

1045
00:55:45,693 --> 00:55:50,013
Speaker 26: so you know the need in hospitals another example, they said,

1046
00:55:50,013 --> 00:55:52,533
Speaker 26: oh it's going to cost four hundred and fifty million.

1047
00:55:52,293 --> 00:55:52,773
Speaker 11: To build it.

1048
00:55:53,173 --> 00:55:55,733
Speaker 26: We've only budgeted three hundred and fifty million, and we

1049
00:55:55,853 --> 00:55:58,732
Speaker 26: know by time it's felt it'll be seven hundred million.

1050
00:55:58,773 --> 00:56:00,973
Speaker 26: I'm making those numbers up, obviously, but.

1051
00:56:02,493 --> 00:56:03,493
Speaker 4: You know it's just.

1052
00:56:05,333 --> 00:56:08,133
Speaker 26: How on earth can you say, oh, we're going to

1053
00:56:08,173 --> 00:56:11,933
Speaker 26: have a project and we expect of the budgeted price

1054
00:56:12,053 --> 00:56:12,533
Speaker 26: to double.

1055
00:56:12,653 --> 00:56:14,653
Speaker 14: How can you how can.

1056
00:56:14,573 --> 00:56:21,853
Speaker 26: You function with that degree of incompetence? You know another example,

1057
00:56:21,973 --> 00:56:25,772
Speaker 26: I've lived in my house for five years. The road

1058
00:56:25,893 --> 00:56:29,453
Speaker 26: outside it has been dug up six times in that

1059
00:56:29,693 --> 00:56:30,333
Speaker 26: five years.

1060
00:56:30,853 --> 00:56:33,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, no, I get it, you know, you know,

1061
00:56:33,773 --> 00:56:35,293
Speaker 2: I gotta make a joke and say maybe they just

1062
00:56:35,373 --> 00:56:37,533
Speaker 2: love digging holes. But I get your frustration. And this

1063
00:56:37,693 --> 00:56:41,252
Speaker 2: is what it's about, right, It is the frustrating scenarios

1064
00:56:41,373 --> 00:56:47,213
Speaker 2: and some people, you know, I get some situations are

1065
00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:49,692
Speaker 2: a bit more complicated in the world we're in at

1066
00:56:49,693 --> 00:56:52,973
Speaker 2: the moment. Some some that you know, there's inflation and

1067
00:56:53,013 --> 00:56:55,252
Speaker 2: cost of materials and where a country in the corner

1068
00:56:55,293 --> 00:56:56,853
Speaker 2: of the world, and some of those materials need to

1069
00:56:56,853 --> 00:57:00,373
Speaker 2: be shipped here. But when it's everything, every project seems

1070
00:57:00,493 --> 00:57:04,533
Speaker 2: to double quadruple. Most people in New Zealand are looking

1071
00:57:04,533 --> 00:57:07,653
Speaker 2: at that and thinking why, why, why, And when it

1072
00:57:07,773 --> 00:57:11,013
Speaker 2: starts to bloon out, why isn't someone jumping in there insane.

1073
00:57:11,493 --> 00:57:13,533
Speaker 2: We're not going to have this. We're not going to

1074
00:57:13,693 --> 00:57:15,853
Speaker 2: double the budget for a project. We said we're going

1075
00:57:15,933 --> 00:57:17,893
Speaker 2: to spend this much and if you can't do it

1076
00:57:17,973 --> 00:57:20,573
Speaker 2: for that much, we'll within close to that region. Then

1077
00:57:20,613 --> 00:57:21,293
Speaker 2: we're not going to do it.

1078
00:57:24,093 --> 00:57:27,453
Speaker 26: Well, look, there's a thing called liquid data damages. Why

1079
00:57:27,613 --> 00:57:30,853
Speaker 26: is there not liquid data damages in these contracts in

1080
00:57:30,973 --> 00:57:35,453
Speaker 26: the private sector? If I do a project for newsborg ZDB,

1081
00:57:35,613 --> 00:57:38,373
Speaker 26: I'm going to build you a new studio and it's

1082
00:57:38,413 --> 00:57:40,973
Speaker 26: going to cost ten million dollars and it has to

1083
00:57:41,053 --> 00:57:44,373
Speaker 26: be finished by June the twenty fifth of June next year.

1084
00:57:45,493 --> 00:57:48,453
Speaker 26: On the twenty sixth of June next year, if I

1085
00:57:48,613 --> 00:57:52,133
Speaker 26: haven't built you that studio for ten million dollars, you're

1086
00:57:52,173 --> 00:57:57,373
Speaker 26: going to start charging me out of retentions and deducting

1087
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Speaker 26: money out of retentions for non performance.

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Speaker 20: That's how the real world works.

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Speaker 26: Why don't councils in public service work under the same

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Speaker 26: restraints and accountabilities as everybody else?

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's a good point. And just to bring it

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Speaker 2: back to the compensation for these businesses in this scenario,

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00:58:19,093 --> 00:58:21,213
Speaker 2: how would you feel about that? Andrew? Clearly it's got

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00:58:21,253 --> 00:58:23,653
Speaker 2: to come from from the rate space. Is that a

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00:58:23,733 --> 00:58:25,213
Speaker 2: fair thing to do for these businesses?

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00:58:26,373 --> 00:58:28,213
Speaker 12: Well, it's not a fair thing to do for the

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00:58:28,333 --> 00:58:28,933
Speaker 12: rate payers.

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Speaker 26: But a fair thing to do is to compensate them,

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Speaker 26: and and I don't see any other way of them

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Speaker 26: receiving anycount any compensation because there won't be liquidated damages

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00:58:44,013 --> 00:58:47,173
Speaker 26: in that contract with Fulton Hogan or whoever it is,

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00:58:48,133 --> 00:58:54,093
Speaker 26: and there won't be accountability clauses built into the manager

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00:58:54,173 --> 00:58:58,893
Speaker 26: of roading services for Wellington Council or Auckland, Auckland Transport

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Speaker 26: or whatever. So we need we need to we need

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00:59:01,653 --> 00:59:05,533
Speaker 26: to start doing this and doing it with vigor. You know,

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00:59:06,133 --> 00:59:11,453
Speaker 26: you can't just keep having these project being redone, blowing out,

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00:59:11,813 --> 00:59:15,733
Speaker 26: being overpriced at the beginning, and then and then doubling,

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00:59:15,973 --> 00:59:24,293
Speaker 26: and people's lives and their livelihoods being disrupted and you

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00:59:24,373 --> 00:59:26,093
Speaker 26: know and heard from the process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nicely, said Andrew. Thanks for giving us a call.

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00:59:29,053 --> 00:59:30,453
Speaker 2: Oh e one hundred and eighty teen eighty is a

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Speaker 2: number to call nine two nine two if you want

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00:59:32,533 --> 00:59:33,973
Speaker 2: to text you as well. Get to some of those

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00:59:34,333 --> 00:59:35,853
Speaker 2: very shortly. It is twenty nine to.

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00:59:35,933 --> 00:59:41,613
Speaker 17: Three Deuce talks at the headlines with Blue bubble taxis.

1116
00:59:41,733 --> 00:59:44,893
Speaker 17: It's no trouble with a blue bubble, the Prime Minister says,

1117
00:59:45,053 --> 00:59:48,253
Speaker 17: Axe Treaty Principal's Bill isn't helping get New Zealand on

1118
00:59:48,413 --> 00:59:52,733
Speaker 17: track and his party is focused on hard issues impacting Kiwis.

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Speaker 17: It'll pass its first reading in Parliament today beginning about

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Speaker 17: three but be voted down in later readings. Hikoy protesting

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Speaker 17: the bill is moving south through Waikatur. Meanwhile, maritime union

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01:00:05,693 --> 01:00:09,133
Speaker 17: members are protesting at Parliament asking the Govment to deliver

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Speaker 17: new cook straight fairies and not privatize services. Publisher enzed

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Speaker 17: Me has announced proposals to close fourteen North Island community

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Speaker 17: newspapers it says are no longer profitable with the loss

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Speaker 17: of about thirty jobs. A bill to better safeguard insurance

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01:00:26,813 --> 01:00:30,053
Speaker 17: consumers has passed its third reading in the House. Its

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Speaker 17: biggest change is putting the onus on insurers to ask

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Speaker 17: the right questions. Details on the sinking of hmnz S

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Speaker 17: Manawanui may be revealed this month in an interim report

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01:00:41,133 --> 01:00:44,013
Speaker 17: from the Court of Inquiry. Sarmore has approved a plan

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01:00:44,133 --> 01:00:47,773
Speaker 17: for removing diesel from the wreck. The day the doctor

1133
01:00:47,853 --> 01:00:51,773
Speaker 17: said three of our four children will go blind. You

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01:00:51,853 --> 01:00:54,573
Speaker 17: can see the story at enzed Herald Premium. Now back

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Speaker 17: to Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylen and we're talking about council roadworks.

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Speaker 2: This is on the back of a story in Wellington,

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01:01:02,093 --> 01:01:03,893
Speaker 2: and we know Wellington is a bit of a basket

1139
01:01:03,973 --> 01:01:07,893
Speaker 2: case at the moment. But the roadworks on Thorndon Key

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01:01:08,413 --> 01:01:11,413
Speaker 2: were started some time ago and the end date was

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Speaker 2: in sight, and businesses have been struggling and hurting, as

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01:01:14,613 --> 01:01:17,933
Speaker 2: you can imagine. And then the council decided that part

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01:01:18,093 --> 01:01:21,613
Speaker 2: of that construction they didn't like anymore raised safety platforms,

1144
01:01:21,653 --> 01:01:24,493
Speaker 2: so they sent the construction crews back in just as

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01:01:24,533 --> 01:01:26,573
Speaker 2: it was about to be completed and have dug it

1146
01:01:26,653 --> 01:01:30,293
Speaker 2: back up again. So businesses are saying this is utter madness.

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01:01:30,413 --> 01:01:33,573
Speaker 2: My question is at that point should they be compensated?

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01:01:33,653 --> 01:01:37,293
Speaker 2: That is clearly a stuff up with no consideration given

1149
01:01:37,333 --> 01:01:39,413
Speaker 2: to those businesses. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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01:01:39,493 --> 01:01:42,213
Speaker 2: is the number to call, Gabrielle. How are you this afternoon,

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01:01:43,693 --> 01:01:44,333
Speaker 2: Cure Tyler?

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01:01:44,413 --> 01:01:45,133
Speaker 27: How are you sure?

1153
01:01:45,213 --> 01:01:45,573
Speaker 2: I'm good?

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01:01:45,613 --> 01:01:48,813
Speaker 27: I'd like to yeah, I'd like to join the growing

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01:01:48,933 --> 01:01:53,613
Speaker 27: chorus of people that oppose this decision from Wellington Council.

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01:01:55,413 --> 01:01:58,373
Speaker 27: Just a couple of things. First of all, the observer,

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01:01:58,533 --> 01:02:02,573
Speaker 27: the Crown observer that already is he he can't actually

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01:02:02,773 --> 01:02:06,933
Speaker 27: defer or stop any decision that that council had made.

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01:02:07,053 --> 01:02:08,053
Speaker 10: Can no no.

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Speaker 27: Observe that's what he does, So wold have made any

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01:02:12,933 --> 01:02:15,213
Speaker 27: differ respect that he started on Monday and he's in

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01:02:15,293 --> 01:02:19,813
Speaker 27: there today. He just observes. The other thing was that

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01:02:22,133 --> 01:02:25,013
Speaker 27: the council would have been good if we could have

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01:02:25,093 --> 01:02:30,093
Speaker 27: had somebody from there in that group on radio where

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01:02:30,093 --> 01:02:33,173
Speaker 27: you could interview them. They don't have to take questions

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01:02:33,253 --> 01:02:35,133
Speaker 27: from us. It'd be a million of us ready to

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01:02:35,253 --> 01:02:38,253
Speaker 27: jump the phone. But even if you could interview them,

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01:02:38,493 --> 01:02:39,373
Speaker 27: that would have been good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'll find out who sits on that particular committee.

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Speaker 2: But as we know, Gabrielle, those committees are made up

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Speaker 2: of counselors. They get information and advice from staff members

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Speaker 2: within council, but ultimately they are decisions made by counselors.

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Speaker 27: You're right exactly, So that's why it would be good

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01:02:59,973 --> 01:03:02,533
Speaker 27: to get one of them and anyway that's more input.

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Speaker 2: No enough, Well, just as a as a Wellentonian, Gabrielle,

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01:03:05,893 --> 01:03:09,093
Speaker 2: would you in this instance and we know that your

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Speaker 2: rates have gone up astronomically and really feel for you

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01:03:11,973 --> 01:03:14,093
Speaker 2: guys in Wellington far more than other places in New

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01:03:14,173 --> 01:03:17,053
Speaker 2: Zealand and most most major settings have had big increases

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01:03:17,093 --> 01:03:18,853
Speaker 2: to their rates. Don't get me wrong, but for you,

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01:03:19,133 --> 01:03:21,133
Speaker 2: would you be okay with some of your rates going

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01:03:21,173 --> 01:03:24,413
Speaker 2: to these businesses in this scenario to compensate them.

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01:03:25,813 --> 01:03:27,613
Speaker 27: Yeah, because of the circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very nice to chat with you, Gabriel. Oh, eight

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01:03:31,333 --> 01:03:33,453
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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01:03:33,493 --> 01:03:35,533
Speaker 2: if you want to join this conversation. How are you, David?

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Speaker 19: Are Tyler good?

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01:03:39,293 --> 01:03:41,653
Speaker 2: Now you've got some intel from Barcelona?

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Speaker 17: I have, I have.

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Speaker 19: I was just fortunate to be away for a month

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01:03:47,613 --> 01:03:52,253
Speaker 19: and had two weeks driving around Croatia and then two

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Speaker 19: weeks in Barcelona.

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Speaker 2: Lucky man.

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Speaker 19: Unbelievably, I never saw one road cone.

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Speaker 2: What have they got against road cones?

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Speaker 19: Oh?

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Speaker 18: I don't know.

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Speaker 19: But even the main street in Barcelona, they Larumbla, they

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Speaker 19: were doing extensive roadworks and there still wasn't a road cone.

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Speaker 19: All they had was little meter high fences and all

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01:04:19,533 --> 01:04:22,213
Speaker 19: the pedestrians are just walking up and down getting on

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Speaker 19: with their daily business. As that the workers actually working

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01:04:25,933 --> 01:04:31,093
Speaker 19: in the construction the dead. It was just happened in

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01:04:31,173 --> 01:04:38,293
Speaker 19: a formerly manner. And also the America's Cup like there

1205
01:04:38,373 --> 01:04:40,933
Speaker 19: must have been I don't know five thousand Kiwis or

1206
01:04:41,013 --> 01:04:43,653
Speaker 19: more there and everyone was saying, where are all the

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01:04:43,733 --> 01:04:44,333
Speaker 19: road cones?

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01:04:45,613 --> 01:04:47,013
Speaker 12: No roadne we can give.

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01:04:46,973 --> 01:04:48,853
Speaker 2: Them some of our road cones. We got plenty.

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Speaker 19: Well, I mean I couldn't count. I couldn't count how

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01:04:52,613 --> 01:04:56,573
Speaker 19: many road cones I saw between Mangre and my house

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01:04:56,653 --> 01:04:59,653
Speaker 19: there after we got back to Auckland. It's just unbelievable.

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01:04:59,813 --> 01:05:05,493
Speaker 2: Well, it's just bs, is what it is that these

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01:05:05,533 --> 01:05:05,973
Speaker 2: guys need.

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Speaker 19: And they even't need a real eye opener. But as

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01:05:10,213 --> 01:05:13,413
Speaker 19: far as Wellington, there's a lot of fat cats at

1217
01:05:13,453 --> 01:05:16,173
Speaker 19: the top end that have got all the money, i e.

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01:05:16,933 --> 01:05:19,933
Speaker 19: Consultants and engineers. Now, I don't think the rate payers

1219
01:05:19,933 --> 01:05:24,213
Speaker 19: should be paying to have jobs done twice. Yeah, they

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01:05:24,373 --> 01:05:27,453
Speaker 19: paid once and that's enough. If the council decided, well

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01:05:27,453 --> 01:05:31,613
Speaker 19: they cocked it up, well then put in their own pockets. Yeah,

1222
01:05:32,053 --> 01:05:34,333
Speaker 19: don't go to don't go to the ratepayers. People are

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Speaker 19: struggling as it is.

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01:05:36,253 --> 01:05:39,333
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, because what will happened next year?

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01:05:39,333 --> 01:05:41,013
Speaker 19: We'll just get passed on. I'm sorry, we've got an

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Speaker 19: increase in rates again.

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01:05:42,493 --> 01:05:45,733
Speaker 2: Well, this is why this one's slightly Well, I don't

1228
01:05:45,773 --> 01:05:48,933
Speaker 2: think it's that complicated, but it's not the construction workers

1229
01:05:49,013 --> 01:05:51,333
Speaker 2: issue here. This was a decision by the council to

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01:05:51,493 --> 01:05:55,013
Speaker 2: change something that was already agreed to. So in this instance,

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Speaker 2: I can't blame the contractors and I don't think anyone can.

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01:05:57,893 --> 01:06:02,613
Speaker 2: They're just doing what they're told to do. And this

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01:06:02,733 --> 01:06:04,253
Speaker 2: is why I think it's a good discussion, but a

1234
01:06:04,293 --> 01:06:06,653
Speaker 2: hard discussion, right, is that we can all feel a

1235
01:06:06,693 --> 01:06:09,373
Speaker 2: lot of sympathy for these businesses, and anyone that's set

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01:06:09,493 --> 01:06:11,773
Speaker 2: up a business knows what goes into that and what

1237
01:06:11,893 --> 01:06:14,213
Speaker 2: you put at risk and the hours that you have

1238
01:06:14,373 --> 01:06:17,213
Speaker 2: to invest to setting up those businesses and hoping that

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01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:20,653
Speaker 2: it's going to work. And when you are cut off

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01:06:20,733 --> 01:06:23,453
Speaker 2: at the knees by a council that appears to be

1241
01:06:23,773 --> 01:06:28,733
Speaker 2: unsympathetic to people losing their livelihoods, then me is as

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01:06:28,813 --> 01:06:31,013
Speaker 2: a rate payer, I would be okay with some of

1243
01:06:31,053 --> 01:06:33,333
Speaker 2: those rates going to those businesses, even though I know

1244
01:06:33,373 --> 01:06:37,093
Speaker 2: it's deeply unfair to help those businesses. You know, I

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01:06:37,133 --> 01:06:39,293
Speaker 2: suppose it's that scale of Yes, i'd be angry at

1246
01:06:39,333 --> 01:06:42,653
Speaker 2: the council, but I just feel so much sympathy for

1247
01:06:42,733 --> 01:06:43,333
Speaker 2: those businesses.

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01:06:44,773 --> 01:06:47,773
Speaker 19: Well, yeah, well we've got we've got the same situation

1249
01:06:47,893 --> 01:06:49,613
Speaker 19: here with the light rail that they've been doing here

1250
01:06:49,653 --> 01:06:52,493
Speaker 19: for god knows how many years in the city. Yeah,

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01:06:52,893 --> 01:06:56,213
Speaker 19: let's drag on and on and that's affected a number

1252
01:06:56,253 --> 01:07:02,333
Speaker 19: of businesses over the years that I wouldn't I wouldn't

1253
01:07:02,333 --> 01:07:04,853
Speaker 19: be wanting to pay for a job twice my rates,

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01:07:05,373 --> 01:07:07,573
Speaker 19: knowing full well that the council is just going to

1255
01:07:07,613 --> 01:07:09,933
Speaker 19: come back the following year of the year after and

1256
01:07:10,253 --> 01:07:11,253
Speaker 19: upgo you're raped again.

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01:07:11,453 --> 01:07:11,693
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:07:11,893 --> 01:07:13,493
Speaker 2: How was the America's Cup in Barcelona?

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01:07:13,573 --> 01:07:18,853
Speaker 19: By the way, I was fantastic, good, fantastic and Barcelona

1260
01:07:19,973 --> 01:07:23,733
Speaker 19: got on such a fantastic event, which worries me here

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01:07:24,533 --> 01:07:26,973
Speaker 19: in Auckland because we've got sale GP earlier in the

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01:07:27,053 --> 01:07:31,253
Speaker 19: new year. Yeah, and honestly it wouldn't surprise me fur

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01:07:31,373 --> 01:07:37,813
Speaker 19: council are investigating getting built inflatable road cones to put

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01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:38,533
Speaker 19: out on the harbor.

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01:07:40,213 --> 01:07:42,453
Speaker 2: Well, if you get into that business now, David, you

1266
01:07:42,493 --> 01:07:43,493
Speaker 2: might make a bit of money.

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Speaker 19: On pastor lot.

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01:07:46,133 --> 01:07:48,213
Speaker 2: Yeah you're a good man, Thank you very much. O.

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01:07:48,333 --> 01:07:50,093
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

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01:07:50,173 --> 01:07:52,013
Speaker 2: It's nineteen eighteen to three.

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01:07:54,253 --> 01:07:56,613
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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01:07:56,693 --> 01:08:00,093
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons you

1273
01:08:00,293 --> 01:08:02,493
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four you've talked they'd.

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01:08:02,293 --> 01:08:06,053
Speaker 2: Be good afternoon. It is sixteen to three Morris, very

1275
01:08:06,093 --> 01:08:06,853
Speaker 2: good afternoon to you.

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01:08:08,453 --> 01:08:11,333
Speaker 9: Mate. Hey, look, I've got a guy that I bump

1277
01:08:11,413 --> 01:08:13,933
Speaker 9: into each once a week we have a coffee. He's

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01:08:13,973 --> 01:08:17,053
Speaker 9: on one of those roading councils in Auckland. In my

1279
01:08:17,213 --> 01:08:20,693
Speaker 9: view of those boats have been compensated in Wellington, but.

1280
01:08:20,773 --> 01:08:22,612
Speaker 2: The business he explain to me how it works.

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01:08:22,973 --> 01:08:25,452
Speaker 9: And he's in Rodney, right, and there's ten of them

1282
01:08:25,492 --> 01:08:27,772
Speaker 9: on the committee. They get forty grand a year reach.

1283
01:08:28,492 --> 01:08:31,452
Speaker 9: There's one particular person that has spent in that council.

1284
01:08:31,732 --> 01:08:34,812
Speaker 9: They spent one point six million dollars in the last

1285
01:08:34,933 --> 01:08:37,492
Speaker 9: year and a bit on asking stupid questions for the

1286
01:08:37,572 --> 01:08:42,652
Speaker 9: con to the consultants that questions like how many road codes.

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01:08:43,093 --> 01:08:45,173
Speaker 2: This is someone on the committee, Morris, I just missed

1288
01:08:45,213 --> 01:08:47,253
Speaker 2: that on the committee. Yeah right, okay, yeah, yes.

1289
01:08:47,612 --> 01:08:49,852
Speaker 9: And you know if you got that issue that all

1290
01:08:49,893 --> 01:08:52,532
Speaker 9: councils they were going back with this that might have

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01:08:52,612 --> 01:08:55,493
Speaker 9: not necessarily been decided by the council or actually.

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01:08:55,213 --> 01:08:56,572
Speaker 12: The bureaucrats in the council.

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01:08:56,973 --> 01:08:59,532
Speaker 9: There's a big chance to vote it in committee that

1294
01:08:59,652 --> 01:09:01,013
Speaker 9: you have a more on in there who does all

1295
01:09:01,053 --> 01:09:05,333
Speaker 9: the stupidity and they've got no This particular person got

1296
01:09:05,372 --> 01:09:07,333
Speaker 9: on there because he was going on about the potholes

1297
01:09:07,333 --> 01:09:09,892
Speaker 9: and the roads in Rodney. He asked so many one day,

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01:09:10,013 --> 01:09:13,692
Speaker 9: he sent sixty seven emails as a consultants and every

1299
01:09:13,732 --> 01:09:16,372
Speaker 9: time they respond, at cost you a grand sixty seven

1300
01:09:16,412 --> 01:09:18,213
Speaker 9: emails and then forty eight hours is.

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Speaker 12: What they hit the pain.

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Speaker 9: Then you ask that question, why does it cost so much?

1303
01:09:23,652 --> 01:09:26,372
Speaker 9: Because people are getting voted in to do a job

1304
01:09:27,372 --> 01:09:30,092
Speaker 9: but they have no expertise in it, they're not qualified

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01:09:30,093 --> 01:09:32,652
Speaker 9: to do the job, and they asked the most ridiculous questions.

1306
01:09:32,893 --> 01:09:35,892
Speaker 9: And there's no, you don't have to you don't get

1307
01:09:35,933 --> 01:09:38,333
Speaker 9: an outcome. You know, if you work, if I employed you,

1308
01:09:38,372 --> 01:09:41,053
Speaker 9: and I want an outcome because these people are not

1309
01:09:41,173 --> 01:09:43,532
Speaker 9: employees per se. They were on you know, they get

1310
01:09:43,612 --> 01:09:47,093
Speaker 9: paid to sit on a thing. There's no, no, nothing,

1311
01:09:47,133 --> 01:09:50,333
Speaker 9: It's just it's just ridiculous, right, sixty thousand dollars of

1312
01:09:51,013 --> 01:09:54,452
Speaker 9: consultancies and forty eight hours for stupid emails like in

1313
01:09:54,572 --> 01:09:56,372
Speaker 9: one of the emails. And then I can't mention his

1314
01:09:56,452 --> 01:09:58,772
Speaker 9: name because it's not good, he asked.

1315
01:09:58,812 --> 01:10:00,173
Speaker 21: He asked, how wide are.

1316
01:10:00,093 --> 01:10:01,692
Speaker 9: The road cones and how many are you going to have?

1317
01:10:02,412 --> 01:10:04,053
Speaker 7: You know, data? And they should be this.

1318
01:10:04,732 --> 01:10:06,293
Speaker 2: What does the you hear about that? I mean, what

1319
01:10:06,412 --> 01:10:09,452
Speaker 2: a stupid question? Why the road road coner?

1320
01:10:09,772 --> 01:10:11,612
Speaker 9: So then the consultant then had to go to the

1321
01:10:11,692 --> 01:10:14,173
Speaker 9: road because he had to get it from someone else's

1322
01:10:14,173 --> 01:10:17,572
Speaker 9: because everyone's covering their bacon, right, And that's it. And

1323
01:10:18,492 --> 01:10:20,572
Speaker 9: there's one point six million dollars or nothing. And if

1324
01:10:20,612 --> 01:10:23,372
Speaker 9: you look at an orphan from who are pied to maucu,

1325
01:10:23,652 --> 01:10:26,173
Speaker 9: it's two and a half years to put a cheese

1326
01:10:26,213 --> 01:10:29,133
Speaker 9: color and widen one lane two and a half years.

1327
01:10:29,692 --> 01:10:33,213
Speaker 9: And rumor has this particular person it's the bane of

1328
01:10:33,253 --> 01:10:33,973
Speaker 9: the contractors.

1329
01:10:34,572 --> 01:10:37,172
Speaker 2: Well, the chairs should get involved in that situation, shouldn't

1330
01:10:37,173 --> 01:10:39,213
Speaker 2: they mar us like, I, Yeah, that's ridiculous. And now

1331
01:10:39,253 --> 01:10:41,133
Speaker 2: you know, if you bring the analogy back to your

1332
01:10:41,173 --> 01:10:44,372
Speaker 2: own your own home. If I'm dealing with a lawyer

1333
01:10:44,452 --> 01:10:46,492
Speaker 2: and me and my partner both have questions, we don't

1334
01:10:46,532 --> 01:10:49,173
Speaker 2: both send emails to the lawyer independently because we know

1335
01:10:49,333 --> 01:10:51,452
Speaker 2: every time we do that he's charging us another couple

1336
01:10:51,492 --> 01:10:53,452
Speaker 2: of you know, three hundred bucks an hour or whatever

1337
01:10:53,492 --> 01:10:56,492
Speaker 2: it is. So we compile all the questions we need

1338
01:10:56,612 --> 01:10:58,933
Speaker 2: to know and then send that email out. Surely the

1339
01:10:59,053 --> 01:11:00,852
Speaker 2: cheers should be talking to that guy and say, mate,

1340
01:11:00,893 --> 01:11:03,052
Speaker 2: pull your ed and if you've got a legitimate question,

1341
01:11:03,372 --> 01:11:04,412
Speaker 2: we all do that at once.

1342
01:11:05,612 --> 01:11:06,532
Speaker 16: That's the funniest thing.

1343
01:11:06,612 --> 01:11:09,053
Speaker 9: The cheer said, he does that doesn't listen. He just

1344
01:11:09,133 --> 01:11:11,213
Speaker 9: does it anyway. And it's book bombarding and there's no

1345
01:11:11,293 --> 01:11:13,133
Speaker 9: oversight on it. There's no one saying, hey, you can't

1346
01:11:13,213 --> 01:11:15,652
Speaker 9: do that. There is no rules because they are erected

1347
01:11:15,692 --> 01:11:18,133
Speaker 9: in and they are they look after the public. And

1348
01:11:18,253 --> 01:11:20,372
Speaker 9: it's just if you look at the systems and the

1349
01:11:20,492 --> 01:11:24,532
Speaker 9: processes and everything, and I understand why the meal would

1350
01:11:24,572 --> 01:11:27,732
Speaker 9: be so frustrated because here we seeing this and there's

1351
01:11:27,772 --> 01:11:30,492
Speaker 9: nothing you can do about it. Yeah, and then these

1352
01:11:30,532 --> 01:11:33,213
Speaker 9: people are voted in and when they say hey, I've done,

1353
01:11:33,853 --> 01:11:36,093
Speaker 9: I send off three hundred emails just making sure we're

1354
01:11:36,093 --> 01:11:39,452
Speaker 9: all good. All his voters he voted them all say oh,

1355
01:11:39,492 --> 01:11:40,213
Speaker 9: what a wonderful guy.

1356
01:11:40,253 --> 01:11:40,892
Speaker 12: He's doing his job.

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01:11:40,933 --> 01:11:41,492
Speaker 16: We want him back.

1358
01:11:41,692 --> 01:11:44,372
Speaker 9: But actually he's cost us one point six million in stupidity.

1359
01:11:44,652 --> 01:11:47,053
Speaker 9: Things are take it three years instead of one, and

1360
01:11:47,173 --> 01:11:51,212
Speaker 9: there's no outcome, and there is no outcome for anyone

1361
01:11:51,572 --> 01:11:55,213
Speaker 9: except the consultants. Say, well, old answer that, I'll go

1362
01:11:55,293 --> 01:11:57,333
Speaker 9: and speak to ten people and I'll give you an

1363
01:11:57,333 --> 01:11:58,372
Speaker 9: answer because that's your job.

1364
01:11:58,612 --> 01:12:01,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, whoever wants that position. I mean these you

1365
01:12:01,933 --> 01:12:03,892
Speaker 2: am o next election to get them off the off

1366
01:12:03,973 --> 01:12:06,532
Speaker 2: that local board at simon, how you doing.

1367
01:12:09,253 --> 01:12:11,173
Speaker 12: I've got a solution for them. So I'm in the

1368
01:12:11,333 --> 01:12:13,452
Speaker 12: industry and an well, and like we get liquid at

1369
01:12:13,492 --> 01:12:15,173
Speaker 12: the damages on jobs for the rest of it if

1370
01:12:15,213 --> 01:12:17,892
Speaker 12: we don't finish on time. So if you say you've

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01:12:17,933 --> 01:12:20,572
Speaker 12: got a million dollar job you're doing. Yeah, basically there's

1372
01:12:20,572 --> 01:12:22,612
Speaker 12: a ten percent retention, so one hundred thousand, and that

1373
01:12:22,772 --> 01:12:25,452
Speaker 12: if you haven't finished it by a tight to time frame.

1374
01:12:26,133 --> 01:12:28,093
Speaker 12: You also have a contract with all the companies that

1375
01:12:28,133 --> 01:12:31,652
Speaker 12: you're affecting, and so there's ten businesses that are affected.

1376
01:12:32,213 --> 01:12:34,652
Speaker 12: If the job goes longer than your set time, that

1377
01:12:34,772 --> 01:12:38,173
Speaker 12: liquid of damages doesn't go into council and disappear, goes

1378
01:12:38,213 --> 01:12:41,372
Speaker 12: into a fund that pays the businesses for jobs running

1379
01:12:41,412 --> 01:12:41,892
Speaker 12: over time.

1380
01:12:42,253 --> 01:12:46,253
Speaker 2: Great idea, I mean that would be you know, but

1381
01:12:46,372 --> 01:12:49,052
Speaker 2: that would so that would be that ten percent would

1382
01:12:49,053 --> 01:12:52,653
Speaker 2: be paid by the contract that would be paid.

1383
01:12:52,412 --> 01:12:54,253
Speaker 12: To the council, or the council would have a contract.

1384
01:12:54,333 --> 01:12:57,213
Speaker 12: The business is affected, they know who's affected, and that

1385
01:12:57,372 --> 01:12:59,612
Speaker 12: money gets put into it basically a fund which then

1386
01:12:59,652 --> 01:13:00,333
Speaker 12: pays it back.

1387
01:13:02,173 --> 01:13:04,572
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the idea right behind that. I suppose

1388
01:13:04,612 --> 01:13:06,492
Speaker 2: in this this is it. Yeah, so you go, mate,

1389
01:13:07,612 --> 01:13:08,293
Speaker 2: I'll get another thing.

1390
01:13:08,372 --> 01:13:11,652
Speaker 12: You know, your inflatable tint. Yes, I've got to sidetrack.

1391
01:13:12,173 --> 01:13:14,333
Speaker 12: I've got to I've got your daughters. They leave these

1392
01:13:14,452 --> 01:13:16,532
Speaker 12: tints that they go to, these contents, they leave the

1393
01:13:16,652 --> 01:13:20,133
Speaker 12: tints up and every year we send to buy two

1394
01:13:20,213 --> 01:13:24,532
Speaker 12: or three tints, these cheap tints and power banks. This year,

1395
01:13:25,013 --> 01:13:29,492
Speaker 12: I've beaten them. I've found an inflatable tint with solar panels.

1396
01:13:29,532 --> 01:13:31,732
Speaker 12: There's solar panels on the roof that they could charge

1397
01:13:31,812 --> 01:13:35,012
Speaker 12: their phone and it charges the inflator and their tents

1398
01:13:35,053 --> 01:13:38,852
Speaker 12: as well, so there's no excuses about putting the tin down.

1399
01:13:39,093 --> 01:13:43,053
Speaker 12: It's a it's a company called output Envy dot com phenomenal.

1400
01:13:43,812 --> 01:13:45,732
Speaker 12: I've got them. I'll let you know next year how

1401
01:13:45,772 --> 01:13:46,133
Speaker 12: I get on.

1402
01:13:46,412 --> 01:13:49,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, this sounds like exactly what I need, but I'll

1403
01:13:49,053 --> 01:13:50,572
Speaker 2: look it up. I mean, we're going to be chatting

1404
01:13:50,572 --> 01:13:53,213
Speaker 2: about that over the next hour. Legitimate though. Yes, you're

1405
01:13:53,213 --> 01:13:54,692
Speaker 2: waiting for it. You're waiting for it the county.

1406
01:13:55,293 --> 01:13:56,213
Speaker 12: You know, I've ordered it.

1407
01:13:56,372 --> 01:13:56,893
Speaker 9: I've ordered it.

1408
01:13:58,133 --> 01:14:00,732
Speaker 12: Just because she was talking about buying two tints or

1409
01:14:00,772 --> 01:14:03,892
Speaker 12: three tints of the summer. I went, I've got two daughters,

1410
01:14:03,973 --> 01:14:06,492
Speaker 12: so that to double up. I went, I'm gonna beat

1411
01:14:06,492 --> 01:14:09,093
Speaker 12: you guys this year. I'm not buying power bags and

1412
01:14:09,173 --> 01:14:11,812
Speaker 12: teens to get left for a paddict somewhere and gisbond

1413
01:14:11,933 --> 01:14:12,572
Speaker 12: or somewhere else.

1414
01:14:12,652 --> 01:14:16,173
Speaker 2: So yeah, love it. Yeah, OK, let me know how

1415
01:14:16,213 --> 01:14:18,053
Speaker 2: you go. Mate. That's great. Oh eight, one hundred and

1416
01:14:18,093 --> 01:14:20,013
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighties and number the cour think we're going

1417
01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:22,772
Speaker 2: to get to inflatable teens very shortly. But we'll wrap

1418
01:14:22,853 --> 01:14:25,772
Speaker 2: this one up after some messages. It is nine to three,

1419
01:14:27,452 --> 01:14:29,812
Speaker 2: the issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1420
01:14:29,893 --> 01:14:30,492
Speaker 2: along the way.

1421
01:14:30,732 --> 01:14:34,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four,

1422
01:14:34,652 --> 01:14:35,692
Speaker 1: you've talked said.

1423
01:14:35,492 --> 01:14:37,892
Speaker 2: Be seven to three, get a Thomas.

1424
01:14:39,412 --> 01:14:40,213
Speaker 14: Are you doing today?

1425
01:14:40,692 --> 01:14:43,213
Speaker 2: Very good? Now you're in Wellington, you're a rate payer.

1426
01:14:43,253 --> 01:14:46,812
Speaker 2: How do you feel about these businesses who are maybe

1427
01:14:46,933 --> 01:14:49,492
Speaker 2: losing their livelihood because the road's been dug back up.

1428
01:14:50,933 --> 01:14:51,093
Speaker 8: Right.

1429
01:14:51,253 --> 01:14:54,893
Speaker 14: So I travel on LinkedIn k Yeah, sorry, everybody in

1430
01:14:55,013 --> 01:14:57,892
Speaker 14: the city streets yep, on a very very regular basis,

1431
01:14:57,933 --> 01:15:00,013
Speaker 14: every single day, sometimes three or four times a day.

1432
01:15:00,093 --> 01:15:00,253
Speaker 2: YEP.

1433
01:15:00,333 --> 01:15:02,173
Speaker 14: I do not write a push bike on the road.

1434
01:15:02,293 --> 01:15:03,932
Speaker 14: I'd rather write a push bikes in the hills.

1435
01:15:04,173 --> 01:15:04,372
Speaker 2: Yep.

1436
01:15:04,812 --> 01:15:09,492
Speaker 14: And so every action has an equal off reaction. Every

1437
01:15:09,572 --> 01:15:11,572
Speaker 14: cost must have a return on investment or a cost

1438
01:15:11,612 --> 01:15:15,932
Speaker 14: benefit ratio. Those four businesses have suffered. The council asked

1439
01:15:16,293 --> 01:15:18,213
Speaker 14: whether it should happen, and there was a vote no,

1440
01:15:18,492 --> 01:15:20,692
Speaker 14: and they've gone ahead and done it anyway, just pushing

1441
01:15:20,772 --> 01:15:24,453
Speaker 14: their ideology. The ideology is to get people writing pushpikes.

1442
01:15:24,532 --> 01:15:28,572
Speaker 14: Got it, understand, great idea. But here's the thing. Let's

1443
01:15:28,572 --> 01:15:31,972
Speaker 14: talk about carbon footprint. How much cost and how long

1444
01:15:32,013 --> 01:15:36,013
Speaker 14: will the cost benefit ratio of the cyclists increasing as

1445
01:15:36,133 --> 01:15:40,012
Speaker 14: to opposed to the costs that we've increased and incurred

1446
01:15:40,612 --> 01:15:44,253
Speaker 14: in the cost of producing the cycle lanes, closing people's

1447
01:15:44,293 --> 01:15:47,652
Speaker 14: businesses and everything and all flow on effect of such.

1448
01:15:48,173 --> 01:15:50,812
Speaker 14: So do you understand my point? What's it costing us

1449
01:15:50,933 --> 01:15:53,852
Speaker 14: to save one hundred dollars a day when it's costing

1450
01:15:53,973 --> 01:15:55,892
Speaker 14: us one thousand dollars a day to save a thousand.

1451
01:15:56,213 --> 01:15:59,852
Speaker 14: It doesn't make any sense. Those businesses have been hammered.

1452
01:16:00,532 --> 01:16:03,333
Speaker 14: The great payers shouldn't pay. The council should have a

1453
01:16:03,853 --> 01:16:06,612
Speaker 14: default fund and the councilors should have to pay. The

1454
01:16:06,692 --> 01:16:09,732
Speaker 14: council should have to pay for it because everyone's kind

1455
01:16:09,772 --> 01:16:11,572
Speaker 14: hard to We want to see everyone do well. Then

1456
01:16:11,973 --> 01:16:15,253
Speaker 14: someone's got to pay, right Yeah, so poplication, Yes, but

1457
01:16:15,372 --> 01:16:19,013
Speaker 14: there's got to be retentions all you know, if you

1458
01:16:19,133 --> 01:16:21,572
Speaker 14: run over anyone runs over a contry they don't perform

1459
01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:25,013
Speaker 14: or things run over, there's a penalty in there, but

1460
01:16:25,093 --> 01:16:28,253
Speaker 14: it doesn't end to be anything. They just run a mass.

1461
01:16:28,372 --> 01:16:32,852
Speaker 14: So I've just driven down kent Terrace. There's one cyclist

1462
01:16:32,973 --> 01:16:35,652
Speaker 14: in the cycle lane and three riding up the road,

1463
01:16:35,692 --> 01:16:36,652
Speaker 14: not on the cycle lanes.

1464
01:16:36,812 --> 01:16:39,412
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I thought, yeah, I agree with you, Thomas,

1465
01:16:39,452 --> 01:16:41,932
Speaker 2: and I've actually got nothing against cycle lanes per se.

1466
01:16:42,093 --> 01:16:44,612
Speaker 2: But there are the right time to invest in those

1467
01:16:44,692 --> 01:16:47,732
Speaker 2: particular projects, and now it's not the right time. And

1468
01:16:47,973 --> 01:16:50,412
Speaker 2: on a cost benefit analysis situation, as you say, it

1469
01:16:50,492 --> 01:16:53,772
Speaker 2: appears a good chunk of Wellington and other places around

1470
01:16:53,812 --> 01:16:55,972
Speaker 2: New Zealand do not want these cycle ways. At this point.

1471
01:16:56,013 --> 01:16:57,932
Speaker 2: There are more things we need to spend our money

1472
01:16:58,013 --> 01:17:00,732
Speaker 2: on and at the cost of these particular businesses as well.

1473
01:17:01,053 --> 01:17:03,053
Speaker 2: You weigh those things up and then you look at

1474
01:17:03,093 --> 01:17:05,732
Speaker 2: what the council was doing and deciding and thinking you're

1475
01:17:05,772 --> 01:17:09,093
Speaker 2: on the wrong track. You're there there because of the

1476
01:17:09,133 --> 01:17:12,772
Speaker 2: people elected you to do what the rate payers are

1477
01:17:12,812 --> 01:17:14,732
Speaker 2: asking for, and you go in the opposite direction. I

1478
01:17:14,812 --> 01:17:17,932
Speaker 2: think that's where you know, that's a level of arrogance

1479
01:17:18,053 --> 01:17:20,253
Speaker 2: that really upsets people, and I think that's where we

1480
01:17:20,333 --> 01:17:21,893
Speaker 2: get ourselves into these situations.

1481
01:17:23,013 --> 01:17:23,932
Speaker 14: Yeah, one hundred percent.

1482
01:17:24,053 --> 01:17:24,173
Speaker 8: Right.

1483
01:17:24,213 --> 01:17:26,452
Speaker 14: So the thing they've given us to some numbers thirteen

1484
01:17:26,532 --> 01:17:27,812
Speaker 14: hundred cyclists today.

1485
01:17:27,732 --> 01:17:28,572
Speaker 16: Use the thorn and key.

1486
01:17:28,893 --> 01:17:29,372
Speaker 23: That's great.

1487
01:17:29,492 --> 01:17:31,652
Speaker 14: I'd love to know is that on Willington's very, very

1488
01:17:31,732 --> 01:17:34,492
Speaker 14: best day And is that in both directions just one day?

1489
01:17:34,933 --> 01:17:37,572
Speaker 14: And has that averaged over the whole year? And they're

1490
01:17:37,572 --> 01:17:41,253
Speaker 14: saying that's going to triple triple by twenty thirty six.

1491
01:17:41,772 --> 01:17:43,892
Speaker 14: So to get any benefit, we've got to wait twelve

1492
01:17:43,973 --> 01:17:47,133
Speaker 14: years and set everything of what's the cost to do this? Yeah,

1493
01:17:47,412 --> 01:17:49,293
Speaker 14: and every time they've got to relay the road, which

1494
01:17:49,333 --> 01:17:52,093
Speaker 14: they're doing again right now is Thornton Key. They've maybe

1495
01:17:52,133 --> 01:17:54,492
Speaker 14: just just painted the cycle the little green arrows and

1496
01:17:54,532 --> 01:17:56,492
Speaker 14: all the cycle images all over the ruck, but now

1497
01:17:56,612 --> 01:17:57,812
Speaker 14: to all it up and they're redoing it again.

1498
01:17:57,973 --> 01:18:01,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, it nicely said Tom. It's good discussion. Hopefully those

1499
01:18:01,572 --> 01:18:03,732
Speaker 2: businesses don't go un day and they get some sort

1500
01:18:03,732 --> 01:18:06,093
Speaker 2: of conversation, but I kind of doubt it. Oh, eight

1501
01:18:06,253 --> 01:18:08,772
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is a number of call about

1502
01:18:08,853 --> 01:18:11,173
Speaker 2: inflatable tents, because that's what we're going to talk about

1503
01:18:11,532 --> 01:18:14,013
Speaker 2: very shortly. New Sport and Weather on its way. Very

1504
01:18:14,053 --> 01:18:18,173
Speaker 2: good afternoon to you, talking.

1505
01:18:18,013 --> 01:18:19,292
Speaker 3: With you all afternoon.

1506
01:18:19,572 --> 01:18:23,372
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty

1507
01:18:23,412 --> 01:18:25,012
Speaker 1: four News Talk Zibbi.

1508
01:18:26,013 --> 01:18:29,292
Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you. Hope you're having a great Thursday.

1509
01:18:29,333 --> 01:18:31,852
Speaker 2: Great to have your company as always, seven past three,

1510
01:18:32,133 --> 01:18:36,933
Speaker 2: just me today. Matts is at Ohakia Airbase. He is

1511
01:18:37,053 --> 01:18:40,532
Speaker 2: speaking to the new generation of Air Force cadets and

1512
01:18:40,652 --> 01:18:42,173
Speaker 2: he's having a ball of a time. But he will

1513
01:18:42,253 --> 01:18:44,852
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow for Friday, so don't worry about that.

1514
01:18:45,612 --> 01:18:45,732
Speaker 8: Right.

1515
01:18:45,853 --> 01:18:48,732
Speaker 2: Good, last couple of hours, grunty, last couple of hours,

1516
01:18:48,812 --> 01:18:51,452
Speaker 2: But I'm in need of some help over the next

1517
01:18:51,612 --> 01:18:54,053
Speaker 2: hour or so. I want to talk about inflatable tents.

1518
01:18:54,093 --> 01:18:55,572
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. I want to talk about

1519
01:18:55,612 --> 01:18:59,572
Speaker 2: inflatable tents. So we were tasked worth booking a holiday

1520
01:18:59,652 --> 01:19:03,213
Speaker 2: home for us and six of our friends in early

1521
01:19:03,333 --> 01:19:07,093
Speaker 2: jan and my partner May She went to go make

1522
01:19:07,173 --> 01:19:09,692
Speaker 2: the booking and we paid the money and as you

1523
01:19:09,732 --> 01:19:11,173
Speaker 2: can imagine, it was quite a lot of money for

1524
01:19:11,253 --> 01:19:13,572
Speaker 2: that amount of people. Got the money from our friends

1525
01:19:14,093 --> 01:19:18,932
Speaker 2: and on Tuesday I hear her shout from upstairs, I've

1526
01:19:19,013 --> 01:19:24,133
Speaker 2: done something wrong, and she was in bits crying what

1527
01:19:24,253 --> 01:19:26,092
Speaker 2: have you done? So I've done something terrible.

1528
01:19:26,173 --> 01:19:26,532
Speaker 9: What is it?

1529
01:19:26,612 --> 01:19:26,772
Speaker 1: Mate?

1530
01:19:26,893 --> 01:19:28,852
Speaker 2: Tell me what have you done? I've booked the wrong

1531
01:19:28,933 --> 01:19:31,333
Speaker 2: dates for the holiday home. So she had booked for

1532
01:19:31,412 --> 01:19:35,893
Speaker 2: the second to the sixth of December, and clearly we

1533
01:19:36,093 --> 01:19:39,452
Speaker 2: cannot make that date, and unfortunately it had gone past

1534
01:19:39,532 --> 01:19:41,372
Speaker 2: the point where we could get all of our money back.

1535
01:19:41,452 --> 01:19:43,852
Speaker 2: So lost a lot of money, lost the holiday home.

1536
01:19:44,173 --> 01:19:48,293
Speaker 2: But luckily we managed to find a campground for us

1537
01:19:48,372 --> 01:19:51,093
Speaker 2: and our friends, so that part's sorted. But now my

1538
01:19:51,253 --> 01:19:54,852
Speaker 2: problem is I've got to buy a tent. The tent

1539
01:19:54,933 --> 01:19:56,852
Speaker 2: we used to have, it was a nice tent, but

1540
01:19:56,973 --> 01:19:58,972
Speaker 2: I did that stupid thing that a lot of key

1541
01:19:59,013 --> 01:20:01,972
Speaker 2: we do. Let's be honest, that I left some moisture

1542
01:20:02,013 --> 01:20:04,452
Speaker 2: in the tent, didn't open it up for a year,

1543
01:20:04,893 --> 01:20:07,213
Speaker 2: and it's buggered. So I checked that one out. But

1544
01:20:07,372 --> 01:20:11,372
Speaker 2: as I started looking tents, what keep popping up again

1545
01:20:11,452 --> 01:20:16,333
Speaker 2: and again and again are inflatable tents massive trend At

1546
01:20:16,372 --> 01:20:19,812
Speaker 2: the moment, everybody was talking about inflatable tents. Whatever a

1547
01:20:19,933 --> 01:20:23,213
Speaker 2: Facebook page I went to about camping, or website I

1548
01:20:23,253 --> 01:20:26,772
Speaker 2: went to about the best tents. Everyone was recommending inflatable tents,

1549
01:20:27,532 --> 01:20:31,652
Speaker 2: and I just don't buy it. Oh eight hundred and

1550
01:20:31,732 --> 01:20:34,173
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. The problem I think I've got with

1551
01:20:34,293 --> 01:20:38,053
Speaker 2: inflatable tents is are they that sturdy? If you can

1552
01:20:38,173 --> 01:20:42,892
Speaker 2: pump up a tent in ten minutes, to me, it's

1553
01:20:42,973 --> 01:20:44,692
Speaker 2: a strong gust is just going to blow that bad

1554
01:20:44,732 --> 01:20:48,452
Speaker 2: boy over. And as we know worth Kiwi summers, some

1555
01:20:48,612 --> 01:20:51,412
Speaker 2: of them are good, but sometimes you get smashed with rain.

1556
01:20:52,893 --> 01:20:55,652
Speaker 2: I just worry that those inflatable tents. Yep, they look

1557
01:20:55,692 --> 01:20:58,973
Speaker 2: easy to set up, fantastic. You get to the campground,

1558
01:20:59,893 --> 01:21:03,253
Speaker 2: get them on the pump, have a beer, kick back, boom,

1559
01:21:03,532 --> 01:21:06,772
Speaker 2: You've got your house for a week. But I don't know.

1560
01:21:08,692 --> 01:21:11,372
Speaker 2: I just think the old canvas tent, even though they

1561
01:21:11,412 --> 01:21:16,173
Speaker 2: are a pain in the butt to set up, particularly

1562
01:21:16,333 --> 01:21:18,093
Speaker 2: if you only do it once a year like I do.

1563
01:21:18,612 --> 01:21:20,133
Speaker 2: Even with that tent that we have for a couple

1564
01:21:20,133 --> 01:21:23,293
Speaker 2: of years, every time I unwrapped the bloody thing, I

1565
01:21:23,372 --> 01:21:26,333
Speaker 2: kept forgetting how it was erected, and then there'd be

1566
01:21:26,452 --> 01:21:29,013
Speaker 2: the scraps about. You know, have we got the fly

1567
01:21:29,173 --> 01:21:31,572
Speaker 2: around the right way? Have we got all the tent

1568
01:21:31,652 --> 01:21:35,612
Speaker 2: pigs in there? No, we're missing tent pigs. So if

1569
01:21:35,612 --> 01:21:37,812
Speaker 2: you've got an inflatable tent, love to hear from you.

1570
01:21:38,372 --> 01:21:38,812
Speaker 3: Is it all?

1571
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:39,612
Speaker 2: It's cranked up?

1572
01:21:39,652 --> 01:21:39,812
Speaker 4: To me?

1573
01:21:40,253 --> 01:21:44,372
Speaker 2: The text have flooded in oh On. One hundred and

1574
01:21:44,412 --> 01:21:46,572
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you've

1575
01:21:46,612 --> 01:21:49,973
Speaker 2: got inflatable tent? Sell it to me? Honestly? Are they

1576
01:21:50,013 --> 01:21:53,652
Speaker 2: as good as people say online and in the shops?

1577
01:21:55,612 --> 01:21:58,772
Speaker 2: Would they? Because I do a lot of back country

1578
01:21:59,053 --> 01:22:02,732
Speaker 2: hiking myself, right, so I get for the campground, it's

1579
01:22:02,732 --> 01:22:05,652
Speaker 2: probably a good thing. But honestly, can I get an

1580
01:22:05,692 --> 01:22:08,933
Speaker 2: inflatable tent that is somewhat light rate weights that I

1581
01:22:08,973 --> 01:22:11,452
Speaker 2: can take into the back country? Help me out here?

1582
01:22:11,973 --> 01:22:14,012
Speaker 2: Get on the phones. I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1583
01:22:14,093 --> 01:22:16,772
Speaker 2: The phone lines have already lit up. It is ten

1584
01:22:16,853 --> 01:22:18,892
Speaker 2: pas three. Will get to some of your calls very shortly,

1585
01:22:20,293 --> 01:22:23,972
Speaker 2: good afternoon. Inflatable tents, are they really worth the money

1586
01:22:24,133 --> 01:22:26,293
Speaker 2: or are they going to quite literally let me down

1587
01:22:26,333 --> 01:22:28,293
Speaker 2: in six months time? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1588
01:22:28,333 --> 01:22:30,412
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call, Ethan. What do you reckon?

1589
01:22:31,173 --> 01:22:31,293
Speaker 16: Oh?

1590
01:22:31,372 --> 01:22:32,372
Speaker 28: Hi Tyler, how's it going?

1591
01:22:32,572 --> 01:22:34,452
Speaker 2: Very good? Have you got an inflatable tent?

1592
01:22:35,333 --> 01:22:37,812
Speaker 28: We do, mate, We've had one for about five years

1593
01:22:37,893 --> 01:22:41,293
Speaker 28: now and still going strong, still going strong, mate, Highly

1594
01:22:41,372 --> 01:22:46,213
Speaker 28: recommend what brand? It's just a torpedo seven one torpedo

1595
01:22:46,372 --> 01:22:50,692
Speaker 28: seven yet torpedo seven yeap, never let us down? Heavy rain,

1596
01:22:51,692 --> 01:22:56,372
Speaker 28: are strong winds, yep. The amount of pigs that come

1597
01:22:56,452 --> 01:22:59,892
Speaker 28: with them to peg it all down, those those through

1598
01:22:59,933 --> 01:23:02,293
Speaker 28: the trick. It's a bit of tension.

1599
01:23:02,973 --> 01:23:05,092
Speaker 2: And so what these are the poles that are inflated

1600
01:23:05,133 --> 01:23:05,772
Speaker 2: with here are they?

1601
01:23:06,013 --> 01:23:06,133
Speaker 3: Is that?

1602
01:23:06,293 --> 01:23:07,293
Speaker 25: How you got three?

1603
01:23:07,492 --> 01:23:10,053
Speaker 28: So it's got three so one on one on one end,

1604
01:23:10,173 --> 01:23:12,452
Speaker 28: one through the middle and then one through the other end.

1605
01:23:12,893 --> 01:23:17,812
Speaker 28: It takes literally ten fifteen minutes to set up. Once

1606
01:23:17,853 --> 01:23:20,812
Speaker 28: you've got it the bottom peg down, get the pump out,

1607
01:23:20,973 --> 01:23:23,333
Speaker 28: pump the back one up. That takes a minute, pump

1608
01:23:23,372 --> 01:23:25,852
Speaker 28: the middle one up, another minute, pump the front one up,

1609
01:23:26,013 --> 01:23:29,812
Speaker 28: and then peg it all down with another twenty twenty

1610
01:23:29,853 --> 01:23:32,452
Speaker 28: five pegs and you're good to go.

1611
01:23:33,372 --> 01:23:35,532
Speaker 2: And it doesn't move around in the winds. Honestly, if

1612
01:23:35,532 --> 01:23:36,893
Speaker 2: there's a massive cast.

1613
01:23:38,013 --> 01:23:42,772
Speaker 28: It does move around a little bit, but it's not enough,

1614
01:23:43,532 --> 01:23:44,212
Speaker 28: not enough.

1615
01:23:44,133 --> 01:23:48,133
Speaker 3: To to really worry about when you go and set

1616
01:23:48,173 --> 01:23:48,412
Speaker 3: it up.

1617
01:23:48,492 --> 01:23:50,213
Speaker 2: Do you feel And this is why I kind of

1618
01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:52,213
Speaker 2: like the idea of it, if it works, is that

1619
01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:55,612
Speaker 2: if my mates have got the old standard canvas and

1620
01:23:55,732 --> 01:23:57,852
Speaker 2: the bookerrem trying to set it up and where's the

1621
01:23:57,933 --> 01:24:00,492
Speaker 2: ten pegs and where's the instructions, do you just wake

1622
01:24:00,532 --> 01:24:02,772
Speaker 2: out the pump, pump it up and then grab a seat,

1623
01:24:02,853 --> 01:24:03,932
Speaker 2: have a beer and just watch them.

1624
01:24:04,692 --> 01:24:05,213
Speaker 23: Pretty much.

1625
01:24:05,732 --> 01:24:07,612
Speaker 28: Sometimes we jump in and give them a hand click

1626
01:24:07,652 --> 01:24:10,173
Speaker 28: and all those poles together, which are absolute nightmare and

1627
01:24:10,293 --> 01:24:14,053
Speaker 28: feeding them through and they come undone. Yeah, but yeah,

1628
01:24:14,492 --> 01:24:15,572
Speaker 28: one hundred times easier.

1629
01:24:15,732 --> 01:24:15,892
Speaker 23: Love.

1630
01:24:15,973 --> 01:24:19,133
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the tea now to put torpedo seven ones.

1631
01:24:19,253 --> 01:24:22,012
Speaker 2: They look ye, they look real nice, to be honest,

1632
01:24:22,053 --> 01:24:23,573
Speaker 2: they don't look like they're inflatable.

1633
01:24:24,173 --> 01:24:25,732
Speaker 8: Not expensive either.

1634
01:24:25,853 --> 01:24:27,213
Speaker 28: I think we've got our one on sale.

1635
01:24:27,853 --> 01:24:28,532
Speaker 12: Five years ago.

1636
01:24:28,652 --> 01:24:29,932
Speaker 7: Now it wouldn't have been.

1637
01:24:29,933 --> 01:24:31,052
Speaker 28: More than six hundred dollars.

1638
01:24:32,652 --> 01:24:33,532
Speaker 2: Do they wait quite a bit?

1639
01:24:33,572 --> 01:24:35,293
Speaker 12: Though? They do way quite a bit.

1640
01:24:35,412 --> 01:24:37,852
Speaker 28: I just heard you're talking about going tramping with it, Nat.

1641
01:24:38,333 --> 01:24:41,692
Speaker 28: You wouldn't want to have that on your back for

1642
01:24:41,893 --> 01:24:42,932
Speaker 28: any amount of time.

1643
01:24:43,013 --> 01:24:43,692
Speaker 23: I mean, when it's on.

1644
01:24:43,732 --> 01:24:46,093
Speaker 28: The top of the pull it off, roll it off

1645
01:24:46,333 --> 01:24:50,053
Speaker 28: straight on the ground for a nice campsite, nice purt

1646
01:24:50,053 --> 01:24:53,052
Speaker 28: of flat ground, you're good to go. But to carry

1647
01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:55,772
Speaker 28: it anywhere, no, you would, You'd be no good.

1648
01:24:55,812 --> 01:24:58,253
Speaker 2: You'd have to be the rock Ethan. Thank you very much, mate,

1649
01:24:58,293 --> 01:25:00,372
Speaker 2: Thank you Maddie. How are you?

1650
01:25:01,053 --> 01:25:01,253
Speaker 17: Yes?

1651
01:25:01,612 --> 01:25:02,133
Speaker 18: Good things?

1652
01:25:02,173 --> 01:25:05,333
Speaker 2: How he is very good? Are you a convert to inflatable? Ten?

1653
01:25:05,412 --> 01:25:05,692
Speaker 8: Say it?

1654
01:25:06,612 --> 01:25:07,173
Speaker 18: Believe it or not?

1655
01:25:07,333 --> 01:25:07,612
Speaker 3: I am.

1656
01:25:07,692 --> 01:25:10,412
Speaker 18: I was never much of the cancer, and then long

1657
01:25:10,452 --> 01:25:12,572
Speaker 18: story short, ended up having to get into it bloody quickly.

1658
01:25:13,013 --> 01:25:15,372
Speaker 18: So I got a tent and instead of pumping it

1659
01:25:15,452 --> 01:25:17,173
Speaker 18: up to a flate, you just press a button so

1660
01:25:17,412 --> 01:25:19,093
Speaker 18: you don't even have to worry about the four minute

1661
01:25:19,093 --> 01:25:21,013
Speaker 18: pumping up the sides with it. He has press a

1662
01:25:21,013 --> 01:25:24,812
Speaker 18: button and flates, and it also had like charging pugs

1663
01:25:24,853 --> 01:25:27,812
Speaker 18: inside of it from the solar panels, and so you

1664
01:25:27,893 --> 01:25:29,532
Speaker 18: could charge your fine and everything. You don't feel like

1665
01:25:29,532 --> 01:25:30,093
Speaker 18: you're in a tent.

1666
01:25:30,492 --> 01:25:33,852
Speaker 2: See see this is getting pretty full noise. I mean

1667
01:25:33,893 --> 01:25:35,772
Speaker 2: I kind of like it. You know, we want those

1668
01:25:35,893 --> 01:25:38,293
Speaker 2: nice things when we go camping. But so so this

1669
01:25:38,412 --> 01:25:41,412
Speaker 2: pump is built into the inflatable tent. How how do

1670
01:25:41,452 --> 01:25:42,133
Speaker 2: you charge it up?

1671
01:25:43,492 --> 01:25:46,173
Speaker 18: So you've got the solar panels all on it, so

1672
01:25:46,333 --> 01:25:48,572
Speaker 18: the solar panels can help charge a tent, but also

1673
01:25:48,692 --> 01:25:51,293
Speaker 18: just the button itself. You just hit the button on

1674
01:25:51,333 --> 01:25:53,053
Speaker 18: the side and leave. I think it took us like

1675
01:25:53,133 --> 01:25:55,652
Speaker 18: twenty five seconds and it fully pretty much inflates the

1676
01:25:55,692 --> 01:25:58,293
Speaker 18: whole tent. It's not very heavy, eiver. It's a couple

1677
01:25:58,293 --> 01:26:01,093
Speaker 18: of kg's and all fits like tight packs into one

1678
01:26:01,133 --> 01:26:03,372
Speaker 18: of those bags. I'm pretty sure the guy who called

1679
01:26:03,412 --> 01:26:05,572
Speaker 18: on before he got it from the same place that

1680
01:26:05,692 --> 01:26:06,572
Speaker 18: was from output Indy.

1681
01:26:07,013 --> 01:26:11,412
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, now, Andrew, our producer, found that looks

1682
01:26:12,412 --> 01:26:15,093
Speaker 2: somewhat legit. I mean the price was right, Madie. But

1683
01:26:16,853 --> 01:26:18,053
Speaker 2: this is a two manner, is it?

1684
01:26:19,612 --> 01:26:19,812
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1685
01:26:19,933 --> 01:26:22,972
Speaker 18: Yeah, so I preferid I think we I we came

1686
01:26:23,053 --> 01:26:24,772
Speaker 18: with my sister and we had it last summer.

1687
01:26:25,572 --> 01:26:26,452
Speaker 19: I just took it up north.

1688
01:26:26,772 --> 01:26:29,213
Speaker 2: I'm starting to be converted but see, the problem I've

1689
01:26:29,213 --> 01:26:31,372
Speaker 2: still got with inflatable tents is the same problem I've

1690
01:26:31,372 --> 01:26:34,052
Speaker 2: got with inflatable mattresses. And we had an inflatable mattress

1691
01:26:34,093 --> 01:26:36,612
Speaker 2: that had the built in pump. Great for eight months

1692
01:26:37,013 --> 01:26:40,572
Speaker 2: and then it got a leak and just slowly but

1693
01:26:40,772 --> 01:26:44,213
Speaker 2: surely started to let us down. Quite literally, you don't reckon.

1694
01:26:44,293 --> 01:26:47,013
Speaker 2: That's the same situation with these tents. They are bullet place.

1695
01:26:48,053 --> 01:26:48,213
Speaker 11: Well.

1696
01:26:48,333 --> 01:26:50,492
Speaker 18: So far it's been so good with this Phon, honestly

1697
01:26:50,532 --> 01:26:52,492
Speaker 18: for the price point as well as even last in

1698
01:26:52,532 --> 01:26:54,492
Speaker 18: the eight months, I'll be happy enough to buy it again.

1699
01:26:54,532 --> 01:26:55,173
Speaker 14: It was that great.

1700
01:26:55,452 --> 01:26:58,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, good's output. Envy love it, Maddie, thank you very

1701
01:26:58,093 --> 01:27:00,293
Speaker 2: much for giving us a buzz O eight one hundred

1702
01:27:00,293 --> 01:27:04,372
Speaker 2: and eighty teny plenty of texts coming through on inflatable tents.

1703
01:27:05,293 --> 01:27:08,732
Speaker 2: Tyler got an ear tints z Empire. Awesome till they

1704
01:27:08,812 --> 01:27:11,213
Speaker 2: pop an air tube pumped up to the right pressure

1705
01:27:11,253 --> 01:27:14,053
Speaker 2: in the dark, then it popped in the sun the

1706
01:27:14,173 --> 01:27:17,852
Speaker 2: next day. The replacement tubes take days or weeks to

1707
01:27:17,893 --> 01:27:20,013
Speaker 2: get a hold of. If it was a pole tent,

1708
01:27:20,372 --> 01:27:22,253
Speaker 2: a bit of duct tap would have fixed the broken pole.

1709
01:27:22,452 --> 01:27:24,892
Speaker 2: That said still love it, Cheers from Matt. See, that's

1710
01:27:24,933 --> 01:27:27,293
Speaker 2: my problem. If anything goes wrong with a canvas, good

1711
01:27:27,333 --> 01:27:30,612
Speaker 2: old pole tent, you can jimmy something up. Any air tent,

1712
01:27:31,452 --> 01:27:34,732
Speaker 2: inflatable tent, I don't know, but keen to hear from you.

1713
01:27:34,893 --> 01:27:37,253
Speaker 2: The z Empire. I'm going I look those up. I

1714
01:27:37,333 --> 01:27:39,092
Speaker 2: have heard a lot of people talking about the Empire.

1715
01:27:39,293 --> 01:27:41,612
Speaker 2: I think they're ridiculously expensive though, aren't they. Oh eight

1716
01:27:41,692 --> 01:27:43,973
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It

1717
01:27:44,133 --> 01:27:45,253
Speaker 2: is twenty past three.

1718
01:27:49,933 --> 01:27:53,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

1719
01:27:53,333 --> 01:27:56,172
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk, z'd be good afternoon.

1720
01:27:56,213 --> 01:27:58,973
Speaker 2: We're talking about inflatable tents. They're all the rage at

1721
01:27:59,013 --> 01:28:01,133
Speaker 2: the moment. I'm in the market for a new tent,

1722
01:28:01,253 --> 01:28:03,893
Speaker 2: but I'm just not quite sold on the old inflatable.

1723
01:28:04,572 --> 01:28:06,692
Speaker 2: But a lot of people are, and they have purchased

1724
01:28:06,692 --> 01:28:09,133
Speaker 2: inflatable tents and they're loving them, but not this text

1725
01:28:09,213 --> 01:28:12,013
Speaker 2: to get a tiler only ten to have as a

1726
01:28:12,093 --> 01:28:14,892
Speaker 2: canvas tent with steel poles. We have camped for twenty

1727
01:28:14,973 --> 01:28:19,572
Speaker 2: five years. It's hahi and been through multiple cyclones, weather events.

1728
01:28:19,612 --> 01:28:22,452
Speaker 2: In a big event. The only tents still standing are

1729
01:28:22,492 --> 01:28:24,972
Speaker 2: the ones like ours. Love that text kDa Donald.

1730
01:28:27,532 --> 01:28:30,412
Speaker 29: How to have to disagree with that last caller. I

1731
01:28:30,572 --> 01:28:33,173
Speaker 29: remember that summer we had like the cyclones come through.

1732
01:28:33,333 --> 01:28:33,532
Speaker 2: Yep.

1733
01:28:34,253 --> 01:28:38,852
Speaker 29: Well we did seven days up in Talpo Bay, which

1734
01:28:38,933 --> 01:28:42,692
Speaker 29: was amazing. We had six days of rain and in

1735
01:28:42,812 --> 01:28:45,372
Speaker 29: the end the only tints that were left standing were

1736
01:28:45,452 --> 01:28:46,333
Speaker 29: the inflatable ones.

1737
01:28:47,173 --> 01:28:50,532
Speaker 21: Really well, the thing is, the secret with them.

1738
01:28:50,572 --> 01:28:53,213
Speaker 29: Is to not get the small battle tents, the small

1739
01:28:53,293 --> 01:28:56,092
Speaker 29: little ear popes. That's why they explode. There's no stretch

1740
01:28:56,133 --> 01:28:58,932
Speaker 29: in them. And you do pay what you do, sort

1741
01:28:58,933 --> 01:29:02,452
Speaker 29: of pay what you Yet unfortunately the sometimes the cheaper

1742
01:29:02,452 --> 01:29:03,253
Speaker 29: ones have problems.

1743
01:29:03,532 --> 01:29:06,813
Speaker 2: So what I've got a motion but honestly, yeah, inflatable

1744
01:29:06,893 --> 01:29:07,973
Speaker 2: is the way to go. So what I've got on

1745
01:29:08,013 --> 01:29:10,692
Speaker 2: my he is, you know, I imagine with the inflatable poles,

1746
01:29:11,093 --> 01:29:13,452
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, it's almost like a balloon that

1747
01:29:13,532 --> 01:29:16,253
Speaker 2: it waves around a little bit and I can squeeze it.

1748
01:29:16,412 --> 01:29:18,253
Speaker 2: It's not like that. Is it rock solid when you

1749
01:29:18,333 --> 01:29:18,772
Speaker 2: pump it up?

1750
01:29:19,093 --> 01:29:19,253
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1751
01:29:19,253 --> 01:29:19,452
Speaker 11: It was.

1752
01:29:19,492 --> 01:29:19,852
Speaker 21: Honestly.

1753
01:29:19,973 --> 01:29:22,732
Speaker 29: The tent that we had was an English model. They

1754
01:29:22,772 --> 01:29:25,452
Speaker 29: don't bring them in anymore Zondas and it was just

1755
01:29:25,572 --> 01:29:29,132
Speaker 29: bomb proof and that the big dust. Yeah, our friends

1756
01:29:29,173 --> 01:29:32,253
Speaker 29: there had our canvas tent ended up leaving early because

1757
01:29:32,293 --> 01:29:33,452
Speaker 29: they just couldn't deal with.

1758
01:29:36,053 --> 01:29:38,293
Speaker 2: Would make you feel a little bit smook, Yeah, we

1759
01:29:38,652 --> 01:29:41,293
Speaker 2: were you the first. Were you the first out of

1760
01:29:41,333 --> 01:29:42,413
Speaker 2: your group to go inflatable?

1761
01:29:43,732 --> 01:29:46,812
Speaker 29: Yeah, we were, and after our first trip, four of

1762
01:29:46,893 --> 01:29:52,293
Speaker 29: our friends got the identical tents. Yeah, and it's not

1763
01:29:52,372 --> 01:29:54,852
Speaker 29: this group of the same tents. But I'm going to say,

1764
01:29:54,853 --> 01:29:56,892
Speaker 29: when it comes to tramping, there's a company called Nemo.

1765
01:29:57,013 --> 01:29:59,013
Speaker 29: It's an American company, and I think they were the

1766
01:29:59,053 --> 01:30:04,093
Speaker 29: first to bring transing weights or style flatable tents that

1767
01:30:04,213 --> 01:30:05,253
Speaker 29: actually stand.

1768
01:30:05,053 --> 01:30:05,572
Speaker 25: Up to the wind.

1769
01:30:05,692 --> 01:30:08,692
Speaker 2: I'm having a look now Nemo inflatable tents because I'm

1770
01:30:08,732 --> 01:30:10,692
Speaker 2: quite aware, you know, it's probably different if I'm going

1771
01:30:10,732 --> 01:30:13,652
Speaker 2: into the back country and it's just a tent for

1772
01:30:13,732 --> 01:30:15,572
Speaker 2: me and the dog, that would be a bit different

1773
01:30:15,612 --> 01:30:18,412
Speaker 2: from what my partner have is probably expecting over some

1774
01:30:18,572 --> 01:30:20,053
Speaker 2: of that she was, you know, but a room, a

1775
01:30:20,133 --> 01:30:22,372
Speaker 2: couple of a couple of extra bedrooms on the tent.

1776
01:30:23,812 --> 01:30:25,213
Speaker 14: This time we have as big.

1777
01:30:25,293 --> 01:30:28,772
Speaker 29: It's great for the wife and the two kids. But yeah,

1778
01:30:28,973 --> 01:30:32,612
Speaker 29: I'm a outdoor person as well, so when I go tramping,

1779
01:30:32,893 --> 01:30:35,453
Speaker 29: I don't take that clearly, because it's like putty kgs.

1780
01:30:35,933 --> 01:30:39,973
Speaker 29: But I quite like courses for courses, but honestly, if

1781
01:30:40,013 --> 01:30:43,412
Speaker 29: it comes to camping, it's so much easier. And you know,

1782
01:30:43,532 --> 01:30:47,053
Speaker 29: you put it up, you inflate it, and as long

1783
01:30:47,093 --> 01:30:50,772
Speaker 29: as the inflation has a dialog, it it's correct. It's great,

1784
01:30:50,853 --> 01:30:53,013
Speaker 29: you sit down, get a beer out, your sweet a

1785
01:30:53,053 --> 01:30:55,932
Speaker 29: bit pumping it up. But you get to watch everyone

1786
01:30:55,933 --> 01:30:57,732
Speaker 29: else put up the canvas tents. That's insane.

1787
01:30:57,973 --> 01:31:00,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, d reckon. You could plug the pump into the car,

1788
01:31:00,652 --> 01:31:02,293
Speaker 2: you know, you put plug it into the we nine

1789
01:31:02,372 --> 01:31:03,812
Speaker 2: vault to pump it up instead.

1790
01:31:04,173 --> 01:31:05,692
Speaker 8: No, there's not enough power in it.

1791
01:31:06,293 --> 01:31:06,772
Speaker 27: We tried.

1792
01:31:07,333 --> 01:31:10,932
Speaker 29: You can buy a big, big capacity one to think

1793
01:31:11,013 --> 01:31:13,012
Speaker 29: the empires seldom, but they are about two hundred bucks,

1794
01:31:13,013 --> 01:31:14,173
Speaker 29: some of it Scottish to do that.

1795
01:31:15,013 --> 01:31:17,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm the same, Thank you very much. Make

1796
01:31:17,732 --> 01:31:19,852
Speaker 2: great cool Tody. How you doing?

1797
01:31:21,452 --> 01:31:21,652
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1798
01:31:22,253 --> 01:31:22,572
Speaker 19: There you go?

1799
01:31:22,853 --> 01:31:23,093
Speaker 3: Good?

1800
01:31:23,652 --> 01:31:24,933
Speaker 2: You're convert as well, are you?

1801
01:31:26,053 --> 01:31:26,253
Speaker 8: Yes?

1802
01:31:26,652 --> 01:31:26,932
Speaker 16: I am?

1803
01:31:27,372 --> 01:31:27,692
Speaker 20: I am.

1804
01:31:28,173 --> 01:31:32,372
Speaker 8: I am a convert like like you. I pretty much

1805
01:31:32,372 --> 01:31:34,812
Speaker 8: thought if you couldn't make an air mattress to last

1806
01:31:35,572 --> 01:31:38,452
Speaker 8: twelve months, you can make a ten class same period

1807
01:31:38,492 --> 01:31:40,772
Speaker 8: of time. But I have totally been converted. We've got

1808
01:31:40,812 --> 01:31:43,333
Speaker 8: his Empire ten. We've had it for about five years

1809
01:31:43,973 --> 01:31:46,412
Speaker 8: and we take it off great over we go camping

1810
01:31:46,532 --> 01:31:51,172
Speaker 8: up at Lake Tarawera and we're a couple of families

1811
01:31:51,412 --> 01:31:54,612
Speaker 8: and I'll do a run across with a boat, drop

1812
01:31:54,652 --> 01:31:56,972
Speaker 8: off the wife and the kids, and then go back

1813
01:31:57,013 --> 01:32:00,452
Speaker 8: and pack up friends. And by the time I'm back,

1814
01:32:00,732 --> 01:32:03,972
Speaker 8: tense up and it's ready to go. So in terms

1815
01:32:04,013 --> 01:32:07,412
Speaker 8: of ease of putting out, that's great. And yeah, in

1816
01:32:07,572 --> 01:32:10,173
Speaker 8: terms of durable too, We've we've put it up on

1817
01:32:10,213 --> 01:32:13,732
Speaker 8: the south coast of the Wide Upper down in nawi

1818
01:32:13,933 --> 01:32:17,452
Speaker 8: here and a gale wind and it moved around a bit.

1819
01:32:17,812 --> 01:32:22,372
Speaker 8: It's relatively flexible, but it'll stand up rock solid site

1820
01:32:23,973 --> 01:32:25,012
Speaker 8: stand aside, for sure.

1821
01:32:25,253 --> 01:32:27,333
Speaker 2: A lot of people are teaching through about the z Empire.

1822
01:32:27,372 --> 01:32:29,452
Speaker 2: That appears to be the gold standard. Tony. I'm just

1823
01:32:29,492 --> 01:32:32,932
Speaker 2: looking at some of the the models, the Delta Force

1824
01:32:33,053 --> 01:32:35,652
Speaker 2: V two. Holy moly, it looks like a hell of

1825
01:32:35,692 --> 01:32:37,893
Speaker 2: a tent. But you pay a pretty penny for it.

1826
01:32:37,973 --> 01:32:42,532
Speaker 2: But I suppose that's quality, right, Yeah, I reckon if.

1827
01:32:42,452 --> 01:32:44,293
Speaker 8: You pay a bit more for it, I think it's

1828
01:32:44,333 --> 01:32:48,572
Speaker 8: going to last for us. Family tent comfortable. We can

1829
01:32:48,652 --> 01:32:50,093
Speaker 8: put trust in it, and we know it's going to

1830
01:32:50,133 --> 01:32:51,372
Speaker 8: go up, and we know it's going to last. But

1831
01:32:52,253 --> 01:32:54,532
Speaker 8: I want to feel comfortable. Game. Probably a cheap tent

1832
01:32:54,692 --> 01:32:56,652
Speaker 8: down a down last tent.

1833
01:32:58,013 --> 01:32:58,772
Speaker 14: Way, but.

1834
01:33:00,372 --> 01:33:03,532
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's going to go down their lines.

1835
01:33:03,572 --> 01:33:05,213
Speaker 8: You've probably got to spend a little bit more. We

1836
01:33:05,293 --> 01:33:06,133
Speaker 8: can get a little bit.

1837
01:33:06,093 --> 01:33:07,333
Speaker 14: More trust in it.

1838
01:33:07,732 --> 01:33:12,133
Speaker 8: Yeah, they are heavy too. You there, that's twenty kg,

1839
01:33:12,372 --> 01:33:17,213
Speaker 8: so definitely won't be taking that. I just camping up

1840
01:33:17,253 --> 01:33:19,612
Speaker 8: on the Bush's my little two man tenth there with

1841
01:33:19,772 --> 01:33:22,572
Speaker 8: the flexible holes, which is the way to go on mat. Yeah,

1842
01:33:23,093 --> 01:33:28,012
Speaker 8: but for an easy family holiday, I'll go every time.

1843
01:33:28,293 --> 01:33:31,213
Speaker 2: Love it, Tony, Thank you very much. And again this

1844
01:33:31,372 --> 01:33:34,692
Speaker 2: isn't an ad. And I'll mention the Empire Delta Force

1845
01:33:34,812 --> 01:33:39,693
Speaker 2: V two seven thousand bucks looks roomy though, three bedrooms.

1846
01:33:39,812 --> 01:33:42,293
Speaker 2: Nice little warning that would solve the housing crisis, I think.

1847
01:33:43,053 --> 01:33:46,492
Speaker 2: But it weighs fifty seven kilo. I had one hundred

1848
01:33:46,492 --> 01:33:48,973
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. If you've gone inflatable tent, I

1849
01:33:49,093 --> 01:33:52,933
Speaker 2: think I am leaning towards that now. But love to

1850
01:33:52,973 --> 01:33:54,532
Speaker 2: hear what you went for. Because a lot of people

1851
01:33:54,572 --> 01:33:57,093
Speaker 2: are texting through. You can get a perfectly good inflatable

1852
01:33:57,173 --> 01:34:00,293
Speaker 2: tent from Temu. And I haven't bought anything off Timu

1853
01:34:00,412 --> 01:34:02,732
Speaker 2: let alone thinking about buying a tent. But if you've

1854
01:34:02,732 --> 01:34:05,692
Speaker 2: gone the Timu route, was it really that good? Love

1855
01:34:05,732 --> 01:34:09,013
Speaker 2: to hear from you. It is twenty seven past three,

1856
01:34:09,213 --> 01:34:14,452
Speaker 2: she will get is it? Gimme Jean, Geen, Jean? How

1857
01:34:14,532 --> 01:34:14,732
Speaker 2: are you?

1858
01:34:15,333 --> 01:34:15,372
Speaker 17: Ma?

1859
01:34:15,772 --> 01:34:16,173
Speaker 23: I'm good.

1860
01:34:16,253 --> 01:34:19,532
Speaker 20: Hey, Look I've came my whole life mapfull. We all

1861
01:34:19,572 --> 01:34:22,013
Speaker 20: sorts of teams and a couple of years ago we

1862
01:34:22,412 --> 01:34:25,932
Speaker 20: went the same way when the inflatable which we've got

1863
01:34:25,973 --> 01:34:27,852
Speaker 20: from Dwight Dwight Canvas.

1864
01:34:28,053 --> 01:34:30,173
Speaker 30: Yeah, it is a kind of a canvas.

1865
01:34:29,973 --> 01:34:34,052
Speaker 31: Kim and Mate's bloody brother. The name as just yeah,

1866
01:34:34,372 --> 01:34:40,372
Speaker 31: so good, so solid, and the the ear pockets are

1867
01:34:40,452 --> 01:34:44,053
Speaker 31: really firm. You wouldn't even know. It comes with a

1868
01:34:44,093 --> 01:34:46,652
Speaker 31: pumping comes to the pump with anttle gauge on it,

1869
01:34:47,572 --> 01:34:49,732
Speaker 31: and so you just pump up to where it goes

1870
01:34:49,772 --> 01:34:53,532
Speaker 31: into the green. And yeah, we've we've kemp bill conditions

1871
01:34:53,572 --> 01:34:56,572
Speaker 31: like the last color down in South Wairapa and it

1872
01:34:56,772 --> 01:34:59,133
Speaker 31: just it just stayed steady because you put put your

1873
01:34:59,173 --> 01:35:03,213
Speaker 31: teeth in the ground, heat the pegs and she's rock solid.

1874
01:35:03,412 --> 01:35:03,612
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1875
01:35:03,812 --> 01:35:05,972
Speaker 2: So you'd never go back to the old standard canvas.

1876
01:35:06,853 --> 01:35:07,412
Speaker 14: I wouldn't.

1877
01:35:07,853 --> 01:35:08,892
Speaker 31: I wouldn't speed bear.

1878
01:35:09,492 --> 01:35:11,253
Speaker 2: I mean, just so people know it's not an ad.

1879
01:35:11,333 --> 01:35:13,492
Speaker 2: And you mentioned Dwights, and I like Dwites. That's you know,

1880
01:35:13,612 --> 01:35:16,293
Speaker 2: they do good, good quality products all around, not just

1881
01:35:16,372 --> 01:35:18,812
Speaker 2: the tents, and they're having a look at some of

1882
01:35:18,853 --> 01:35:20,772
Speaker 2: those inflatable products. But that's I mean when you go

1883
01:35:20,893 --> 01:35:23,612
Speaker 2: on the website, that is front and center, so clearly

1884
01:35:24,372 --> 01:35:26,812
Speaker 2: that is taking off. Everyone's going inflatable these days.

1885
01:35:27,492 --> 01:35:28,652
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think we've got.

1886
01:35:28,572 --> 01:35:32,612
Speaker 31: The endeavor even modeling, and I mean we've got the

1887
01:35:32,652 --> 01:35:35,372
Speaker 31: those flash inflatable mess which is amazing. It pumps and

1888
01:35:35,452 --> 01:35:37,692
Speaker 31: help up and stuff. We've were pretty much gleaming at

1889
01:35:37,732 --> 01:35:41,772
Speaker 31: their stage. Yeah, we did have some people in the

1890
01:35:41,812 --> 01:35:44,132
Speaker 31: cameground beside us. They blew up with their ear pockets

1891
01:35:44,133 --> 01:35:46,892
Speaker 31: because it was the cheaper tents. But I went over.

1892
01:35:47,093 --> 01:35:49,173
Speaker 25: I just tied the pocket and a knot and we

1893
01:35:49,732 --> 01:35:50,892
Speaker 25: pumped the back cup and then.

1894
01:35:50,732 --> 01:35:52,812
Speaker 31: We just jimmed up, pocked it up to his wagon

1895
01:35:52,893 --> 01:35:54,892
Speaker 31: and she was good to We could get a replacement,

1896
01:35:54,933 --> 01:35:56,652
Speaker 31: but it might be the idea of just a peace

1897
01:35:56,692 --> 01:35:59,013
Speaker 31: of mind to go and get a spear pocket for

1898
01:35:59,532 --> 01:36:00,052
Speaker 31: justin case.

1899
01:36:00,253 --> 01:36:05,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I think I'm pretty much convinced. Yeah,

1900
01:36:05,093 --> 01:36:08,612
Speaker 2: Dwight's outdoors. But every website you go to, Gene, thanks

1901
01:36:08,692 --> 01:36:10,732
Speaker 2: very much, mate, every website you go to if you're

1902
01:36:10,732 --> 01:36:13,372
Speaker 2: looking for a tent inflatables front and center. Oh, eight

1903
01:36:13,492 --> 01:36:15,652
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty, will take a few more

1904
01:36:15,692 --> 01:36:18,732
Speaker 2: calls on this one. Headlines with Raylene coming.

1905
01:36:18,612 --> 01:36:24,013
Speaker 3: Up, Youth talks at the headlines with.

1906
01:36:24,173 --> 01:36:27,173
Speaker 17: Blue bubble taxis, It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1907
01:36:27,612 --> 01:36:30,973
Speaker 17: The Treaty Principal's bill has begun its first reading and

1908
01:36:31,133 --> 01:36:35,412
Speaker 17: the Speaker's given opposition MPs are stern. Talking to Jerry

1909
01:36:35,492 --> 01:36:39,972
Speaker 17: Brandley says the near constant barrage of injections interjections while

1910
01:36:40,093 --> 01:36:42,852
Speaker 17: ax David Seymour has been speaking must stop.

1911
01:36:43,053 --> 01:36:45,452
Speaker 15: I'm actually hearing some of the comments that are being

1912
01:36:45,532 --> 01:36:47,812
Speaker 15: made and if people think that they are in any

1913
01:36:47,853 --> 01:36:50,852
Speaker 15: way enlightening the debate, they are seriously deluded.

1914
01:36:51,732 --> 01:36:54,652
Speaker 17: Soon after, Labour's Willie Jackson was kicked out of the

1915
01:36:54,732 --> 01:36:58,932
Speaker 17: House after accusing Seymour of peddling misinformation about the treaty,

1916
01:36:59,333 --> 01:37:03,412
Speaker 17: calling him a liar. He refused to withdraw and apologize,

1917
01:37:03,732 --> 01:37:05,812
Speaker 17: and the speaker ordered him to leave for the rest

1918
01:37:05,893 --> 01:37:09,253
Speaker 17: of the day. The HIKOI pre testing the bill has

1919
01:37:09,333 --> 01:37:12,812
Speaker 17: passed through Tedo and is continuing on State Highway five

1920
01:37:13,053 --> 01:37:16,652
Speaker 17: to Todua. A separate hiquoy will affect streets in Gisbon

1921
01:37:16,732 --> 01:37:22,093
Speaker 17: from four this afternoon. Immigration New Zealand webs web traffics

1922
01:37:22,213 --> 01:37:27,412
Speaker 17: as skyrocketed as Americans consider moving after Donald Trump's election victory,

1923
01:37:27,933 --> 01:37:31,932
Speaker 17: echoing a transcene when he last won. How to get

1924
01:37:32,053 --> 01:37:34,933
Speaker 17: a good night's sleep and the real reasons you'll not

1925
01:37:35,412 --> 01:37:38,412
Speaker 17: find out more at ensign Heral Premium. Back to Matt

1926
01:37:38,452 --> 01:37:40,013
Speaker 17: Heath and Tyler Adams.

1927
01:37:39,772 --> 01:37:41,732
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Rayleen and we have been talking

1928
01:37:41,732 --> 01:37:44,892
Speaker 2: about inflatable tents and I think I'm almost converted there.

1929
01:37:44,933 --> 01:37:46,812
Speaker 2: They are all the rage at the moment. It seems

1930
01:37:46,853 --> 01:37:50,333
Speaker 2: for good reason, because my concerns about inflatable tents were

1931
01:37:50,333 --> 01:37:53,333
Speaker 2: the same concerns I had about inflatable mattresses. That they're

1932
01:37:53,333 --> 01:37:55,492
Speaker 2: good for about eight months, then spring a leak, and

1933
01:37:55,692 --> 01:37:58,692
Speaker 2: then the bugget and terrible. But it turns out well,

1934
01:37:58,732 --> 01:38:02,492
Speaker 2: according to you good people, that inflatable tents are rock

1935
01:38:02,652 --> 01:38:05,452
Speaker 2: solid and you can set them up in a cyclone

1936
01:38:05,452 --> 01:38:07,732
Speaker 2: and you're probably going to be okay. Oh, eight hundred

1937
01:38:07,732 --> 01:38:10,052
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eight is the number to call. Also,

1938
01:38:10,173 --> 01:38:13,213
Speaker 2: there's a few ticks coming through about game changes when

1939
01:38:13,293 --> 01:38:16,933
Speaker 2: it comes to camping, and we're kind of talking glamping

1940
01:38:17,492 --> 01:38:21,133
Speaker 2: or luxurious camping. So you're still in a tent, but

1941
01:38:21,253 --> 01:38:23,572
Speaker 2: you're in an area where you might have your car

1942
01:38:23,893 --> 01:38:27,772
Speaker 2: close by, or it's a little bit more reasonable than

1943
01:38:27,812 --> 01:38:30,892
Speaker 2: the back country I can and tinting I've been talking about.

1944
01:38:31,173 --> 01:38:34,772
Speaker 2: So your game changes. This texa came through, Hi, Tyler,

1945
01:38:36,013 --> 01:38:38,812
Speaker 2: love the inflatable tent. But another game changer for us

1946
01:38:38,933 --> 01:38:43,732
Speaker 2: when we go camping is a backpack caller. It's run

1947
01:38:43,853 --> 01:38:49,532
Speaker 2: via a battery, but it calls your drinks and lasts

1948
01:38:50,093 --> 01:38:53,372
Speaker 2: up to seventy two hours. Absolute game changer for us

1949
01:38:53,452 --> 01:38:57,333
Speaker 2: over summer. So love to hear a pack pack caller

1950
01:38:57,452 --> 01:38:59,972
Speaker 2: sounds amazing. So love to hear your game changes when

1951
01:38:59,973 --> 01:39:02,253
Speaker 2: it comes to camping as well. Eight hundred and eighty

1952
01:39:02,372 --> 01:39:04,173
Speaker 2: ten eighty get a Jonathan.

1953
01:39:05,372 --> 01:39:06,133
Speaker 30: Get how are you?

1954
01:39:06,253 --> 01:39:06,452
Speaker 19: Tom?

1955
01:39:06,652 --> 01:39:06,852
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1956
01:39:06,893 --> 01:39:09,812
Speaker 2: Goods? Are you an inflatable tent convert?

1957
01:39:11,372 --> 01:39:15,933
Speaker 30: I am a lot of different tent converts, but specifically

1958
01:39:17,492 --> 01:39:19,652
Speaker 30: air tints and their frame tents A bit of a

1959
01:39:19,732 --> 01:39:22,772
Speaker 30: game changer for the market. And I don't know if

1960
01:39:22,772 --> 01:39:26,012
Speaker 30: you've heard this saying that they've been dubbed the marriage saver.

1961
01:39:27,293 --> 01:39:29,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't deny. And as I mentioned before, Jonathan,

1962
01:39:29,933 --> 01:39:31,932
Speaker 2: and it's you know, I'm not embarrassing this. Every time

1963
01:39:32,013 --> 01:39:33,852
Speaker 2: we used to set up the old tents that's now

1964
01:39:33,933 --> 01:39:39,452
Speaker 2: bugging because I didn't dry it properly. It was always

1965
01:39:39,572 --> 01:39:42,093
Speaker 2: there was always arguments to the point where I just

1966
01:39:42,173 --> 01:39:44,012
Speaker 2: send poor mave a way, and it was usually my fault.

1967
01:39:44,053 --> 01:39:46,253
Speaker 2: I was the one getting frustrated. I'd send her away

1968
01:39:46,293 --> 01:39:48,412
Speaker 2: and say go have a my type and I'll just

1969
01:39:48,853 --> 01:39:51,532
Speaker 2: I'll set this thing up. But it took so freaking along.

1970
01:39:52,732 --> 01:39:56,012
Speaker 30: Yeah, I think I think the You know, we're lucky

1971
01:39:56,053 --> 01:39:58,772
Speaker 30: in New Zealand. We've got a number of different supplies

1972
01:39:58,933 --> 01:40:02,892
Speaker 30: manufacturers and designers here in New Zealand making great tent

1973
01:40:03,053 --> 01:40:10,973
Speaker 30: and leading the challenge probably globally now and they have

1974
01:40:11,133 --> 01:40:15,412
Speaker 30: found a way for the shorter and less strong person

1975
01:40:15,572 --> 01:40:17,852
Speaker 30: to be able to put up a pretty big family size.

1976
01:40:18,253 --> 01:40:18,372
Speaker 3: You know.

1977
01:40:18,492 --> 01:40:20,772
Speaker 30: It's not like in the old days where you had

1978
01:40:20,853 --> 01:40:22,732
Speaker 30: struggled to put up a big canvas and with pole,

1979
01:40:22,853 --> 01:40:24,772
Speaker 30: metal poles and stuff. You know, so that that's where

1980
01:40:24,812 --> 01:40:26,372
Speaker 30: that's really where the changes happened.

1981
01:40:26,612 --> 01:40:29,293
Speaker 2: Now, it's just it's just dawned on me. Who you are, Jonathan.

1982
01:40:29,372 --> 01:40:33,052
Speaker 2: We've spoken before, but you run a very successful camping

1983
01:40:33,173 --> 01:40:34,732
Speaker 2: company and Facebook page.

1984
01:40:34,812 --> 01:40:36,772
Speaker 14: Is that right, that's correct?

1985
01:40:37,053 --> 01:40:38,692
Speaker 30: Yeah, Fun Adventures Camping.

1986
01:40:38,893 --> 01:40:41,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so for your group on the on the

1987
01:40:41,053 --> 01:40:42,612
Speaker 2: Facebook page, yeah, sorry, carry out.

1988
01:40:43,772 --> 01:40:45,772
Speaker 30: I was just going to say, I've been enjoying traveling

1989
01:40:45,812 --> 01:40:48,812
Speaker 30: the country lately, putting up quite a few ear tents,

1990
01:40:48,853 --> 01:40:51,253
Speaker 30: you know, and that and that for different expos for

1991
01:40:51,452 --> 01:40:57,253
Speaker 30: quies to check around the country and having the air system,

1992
01:40:57,293 --> 01:40:59,652
Speaker 30: you know, employable system means you can put up a

1993
01:40:59,893 --> 01:41:03,612
Speaker 30: huge amount of tense in quick successions. So this is

1994
01:41:03,772 --> 01:41:06,452
Speaker 30: there's one side effect to a positive side effect to it.

1995
01:41:07,013 --> 01:41:09,492
Speaker 2: Do you get some of the hardcore are camping members

1996
01:41:09,532 --> 01:41:12,173
Speaker 2: of your community, you know, the backcountry guys that just

1997
01:41:12,372 --> 01:41:16,052
Speaker 2: can't be sold on inflatable or is that completely changed now.

1998
01:41:18,812 --> 01:41:18,972
Speaker 25: There?

1999
01:41:19,973 --> 01:41:23,812
Speaker 30: Look, it's it's there's different tents for different uses in

2000
01:41:23,933 --> 01:41:27,293
Speaker 30: different people in different situations. So you're talking like the

2001
01:41:28,053 --> 01:41:31,333
Speaker 30: hiking type camper who's traveling up the mountains are not

2002
01:41:31,412 --> 01:41:34,452
Speaker 30: taking an inflatable temper too. But the system itself is

2003
01:41:34,532 --> 01:41:38,732
Speaker 30: heavy and bulkier, so that's probably not for them. They'll

2004
01:41:38,732 --> 01:41:41,452
Speaker 30: still consider a lightweight, poled.

2005
01:41:41,333 --> 01:41:43,172
Speaker 16: Tent, but much important.

2006
01:41:43,452 --> 01:41:48,093
Speaker 30: Right, most people in New Zealanders today will be converted

2007
01:41:48,173 --> 01:41:51,213
Speaker 30: and could easily be talked into an air frame system.

2008
01:41:51,412 --> 01:41:55,572
Speaker 30: So what we're smartis are smart when it comes to camping?

2009
01:41:55,853 --> 01:41:57,772
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely they are.

2010
01:41:58,293 --> 01:41:59,812
Speaker 19: And when it comes to do it easier.

2011
01:41:59,973 --> 01:42:02,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, when it comes to the brands that come top

2012
01:42:02,173 --> 01:42:05,253
Speaker 2: of mind, what what are people? I imagine there's some

2013
01:42:05,333 --> 01:42:07,452
Speaker 2: brands that are sticking out now as the go to

2014
01:42:07,532 --> 01:42:10,653
Speaker 2: in terms of quality. See the Rock, Solid and Comfortable.

2015
01:42:12,093 --> 01:42:14,492
Speaker 30: There's probably three that I can just rattle strapped to

2016
01:42:14,612 --> 01:42:17,653
Speaker 30: my head, so non need a particular order. But Empire

2017
01:42:18,692 --> 01:42:22,053
Speaker 30: Dwight's Outdoors I think you've mentioned just recently and Key

2018
01:42:22,093 --> 01:42:25,692
Speaker 30: Week campaign would be the top three inflatable brands that

2019
01:42:25,893 --> 01:42:29,253
Speaker 30: I would easily just recommend to any New Zealand camper

2020
01:42:30,372 --> 01:42:34,893
Speaker 30: t Inflatable tents well, I would just not be promoting that.

2021
01:42:35,093 --> 01:42:37,652
Speaker 30: It would not be something I'd be not not for

2022
01:42:37,772 --> 01:42:40,772
Speaker 30: any particular reason other than they are not made for

2023
01:42:40,933 --> 01:42:43,452
Speaker 30: New Zealanders for our conditions, you know, and they's such

2024
01:42:43,452 --> 01:42:44,253
Speaker 30: an important thing.

2025
01:42:44,492 --> 01:42:50,572
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, what have you got yourself, Jonathan, I have.

2026
01:42:50,692 --> 01:42:51,772
Speaker 30: One of everybody's tents.

2027
01:42:52,093 --> 01:42:52,532
Speaker 12: At least.

2028
01:42:54,893 --> 01:42:57,412
Speaker 30: I am lucky of a whoard of different tents, but

2029
01:42:57,612 --> 01:43:00,372
Speaker 30: I'm lucky enough to have one from everybody. That's a

2030
01:43:00,372 --> 01:43:02,852
Speaker 30: big part of what I do to ensure that I

2031
01:43:02,933 --> 01:43:05,972
Speaker 30: don't just say something is good without using it myself.

2032
01:43:06,093 --> 01:43:09,412
Speaker 30: So out of the three until seven probably really just

2033
01:43:09,532 --> 01:43:11,452
Speaker 30: rounds out the four as I shouldn't have left them out.

2034
01:43:11,692 --> 01:43:15,933
Speaker 30: They don't make a trustworthy tent as well, so and

2035
01:43:16,333 --> 01:43:19,972
Speaker 30: price at a really good level for Kiwis. So out

2036
01:43:20,013 --> 01:43:21,972
Speaker 30: of those four, I've got one of each, if not more,

2037
01:43:22,372 --> 01:43:23,973
Speaker 30: you know of each brand.

2038
01:43:23,853 --> 01:43:27,852
Speaker 2: So love it. Are you camping now, Jonathan, I'm not.

2039
01:43:28,053 --> 01:43:28,973
Speaker 14: I'm not campaign now.

2040
01:43:29,253 --> 01:43:31,692
Speaker 2: No, where's the next spot? We're off the next.

2041
01:43:33,853 --> 01:43:37,613
Speaker 30: So this weekend we are at Battle Hill in Wellington.

2042
01:43:38,293 --> 01:43:41,772
Speaker 30: We've we're hosting and helping with a mum and child

2043
01:43:41,933 --> 01:43:44,892
Speaker 30: children's sort of event, or at least a woman's events.

2044
01:43:44,933 --> 01:43:47,293
Speaker 30: So I'm clearly not a woman, but I'm out there

2045
01:43:48,253 --> 01:43:51,652
Speaker 30: helping them with how to put up ten to any Christians,

2046
01:43:51,652 --> 01:43:54,532
Speaker 30: I've got general questions, so that's part of what we

2047
01:43:54,612 --> 01:43:57,572
Speaker 30: do as well. We run a woman's specific outdoor group.

2048
01:43:57,732 --> 01:43:59,532
Speaker 9: So yeah, love it.

2049
01:43:59,812 --> 01:44:00,973
Speaker 30: We're out there this weekend with that.

2050
01:44:01,253 --> 01:44:03,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, love it. Always good to check to you, Jonathan.

2051
01:44:03,492 --> 01:44:05,133
Speaker 2: If you want to check out their Facebook page, New

2052
01:44:05,213 --> 01:44:09,612
Speaker 2: Zealand Fun Adventures Camping. They've got one hundred and twenty

2053
01:44:09,692 --> 01:44:12,253
Speaker 2: five thousand members and it seems to be a pretty

2054
01:44:12,253 --> 01:44:14,652
Speaker 2: good place to go if you need advice about camp gear.

2055
01:44:15,293 --> 01:44:17,333
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Jonathan. Right, we'll pick this back

2056
01:44:17,412 --> 01:44:19,173
Speaker 2: up very shortly. It is twenty to four.

2057
01:44:19,772 --> 01:44:22,893
Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on

2058
01:44:23,213 --> 01:44:26,692
Speaker 1: matt ETHN. Tyler Adams Afternoon News Talk said.

2059
01:44:26,492 --> 01:44:29,932
Speaker 2: Be very good afternoon. We've been talking about inflatable tents

2060
01:44:29,973 --> 01:44:32,173
Speaker 2: and I'm pretty well converted there. But if you've got

2061
01:44:32,173 --> 01:44:34,652
Speaker 2: an inflatable tent, love to hear from your on eight

2062
01:44:34,772 --> 01:44:37,652
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty teen eighty. Also talking about the the

2063
01:44:37,812 --> 01:44:40,612
Speaker 2: must have or the game changes when you go camping.

2064
01:44:40,652 --> 01:44:42,772
Speaker 2: A couple of texts through on that regard high Tyler.

2065
01:44:42,893 --> 01:44:48,372
Speaker 2: Must have gas Califont for hot water on bag borrow

2066
01:44:48,532 --> 01:44:51,612
Speaker 2: with the gas bottle, twelve vault battery and twelve vault

2067
01:44:51,692 --> 01:44:55,572
Speaker 2: pressure pumps so portable. Put beside the sixty liters water

2068
01:44:55,692 --> 01:45:00,293
Speaker 2: tank and you are good to go love that, Julian,

2069
01:45:00,372 --> 01:45:01,852
Speaker 2: How are you good?

2070
01:45:02,093 --> 01:45:02,293
Speaker 10: Mate?

2071
01:45:02,333 --> 01:45:02,452
Speaker 17: Sir?

2072
01:45:02,532 --> 01:45:03,692
Speaker 7: Do you hear from Calstia about it?

2073
01:45:03,812 --> 01:45:05,253
Speaker 2: You kidd mate? Nice to chat again.

2074
01:45:06,532 --> 01:45:10,013
Speaker 7: You know you've realize this. It's all irrelevant until you

2075
01:45:10,293 --> 01:45:12,692
Speaker 7: can convince mave all.

2076
01:45:12,692 --> 01:45:16,652
Speaker 2: Right on the tent. Yeah, well, I showed her one

2077
01:45:16,692 --> 01:45:19,372
Speaker 2: of them. I won't mention the brand because people think

2078
01:45:19,372 --> 01:45:21,013
Speaker 2: it's an AD and it's generally not an AD. But

2079
01:45:21,093 --> 01:45:22,932
Speaker 2: the one that I did show her, it's been mentioned

2080
01:45:22,973 --> 01:45:25,732
Speaker 2: over the last forty minutes. But the problem is, I mean,

2081
01:45:25,812 --> 01:45:27,532
Speaker 2: she loves it and it looks like a great tent

2082
01:45:27,612 --> 01:45:30,092
Speaker 2: and it's massive, it's three bedroom's got a lovely warning,

2083
01:45:30,612 --> 01:45:33,173
Speaker 2: but it's five grand. I know, to spend five grand

2084
01:45:33,293 --> 01:45:33,852
Speaker 2: on a tent?

2085
01:45:34,812 --> 01:45:37,532
Speaker 7: Yeah, hey, look I bought one off Timo. I bought

2086
01:45:37,692 --> 01:45:40,533
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff off Timo, and I've never been disappointed.

2087
01:45:40,973 --> 01:45:43,173
Speaker 7: Why don't you just buy a cheap one off Timu

2088
01:45:43,492 --> 01:45:44,492
Speaker 7: to see if you like it?

2089
01:45:45,293 --> 01:45:47,572
Speaker 2: But what im is Yeah, I hear what you're saying,

2090
01:45:47,612 --> 01:45:49,173
Speaker 2: but some of the ones that I saw off Timo,

2091
01:45:49,253 --> 01:45:51,852
Speaker 2: and I've never bought anything off Timu genuinely, but I

2092
01:45:52,013 --> 01:45:54,293
Speaker 2: may do. If you know that some of the tents

2093
01:45:54,333 --> 01:45:56,372
Speaker 2: on there were looking pretty good for the price. But

2094
01:45:56,452 --> 01:45:58,492
Speaker 2: the ones I was eyeing up is about five hundred bucks,

2095
01:45:58,532 --> 01:46:00,652
Speaker 2: and that's still a lot of money. And if I

2096
01:46:00,853 --> 01:46:03,013
Speaker 2: get that tent from Timu and I set it up

2097
01:46:03,093 --> 01:46:05,732
Speaker 2: and it starts pouring down with rain and it leaks

2098
01:46:06,013 --> 01:46:09,173
Speaker 2: and it deflates, then that's fine. One hundred bucks gone.

2099
01:46:09,173 --> 01:46:09,932
Speaker 2: I'll never see again.

2100
01:46:11,013 --> 01:46:12,692
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you will be able to flick that on

2101
01:46:12,893 --> 01:46:16,093
Speaker 7: if that happens, because you know, I mean I the

2102
01:46:16,213 --> 01:46:17,732
Speaker 7: one that I got off a team who I think

2103
01:46:17,933 --> 01:46:21,173
Speaker 7: was a round about one hundred and twenty. It's not

2104
01:46:21,293 --> 01:46:25,133
Speaker 7: a huge one. It's it is really sturdy, and I

2105
01:46:25,692 --> 01:46:28,293
Speaker 7: I am a camper, but I'm not that I'm a

2106
01:46:28,372 --> 01:46:32,213
Speaker 7: fair weather camepra so to be honest, if I and

2107
01:46:32,333 --> 01:46:34,333
Speaker 7: it was poorn with rain, I wouldn't put the tender.

2108
01:46:34,732 --> 01:46:37,892
Speaker 2: Yeah that's so, you know, so I think there's a.

2109
01:46:37,853 --> 01:46:39,652
Speaker 7: Way the round it. But that would be my suggestion.

2110
01:46:39,812 --> 01:46:42,253
Speaker 7: By a cheap one. If you like it, see how

2111
01:46:42,333 --> 01:46:44,932
Speaker 7: the you go with thowing it up and all that stuff,

2112
01:46:44,973 --> 01:46:46,973
Speaker 7: and then when you're convinced of that, then you know,

2113
01:46:47,173 --> 01:46:49,333
Speaker 7: then spend a bit more get something decent. Yeah.

2114
01:46:49,612 --> 01:46:52,412
Speaker 2: No, well I'll take that into consideration. Julian has cass

2115
01:46:52,492 --> 01:46:52,852
Speaker 2: by the way.

2116
01:46:54,612 --> 01:46:56,452
Speaker 7: It's great, Yeah, very very good.

2117
01:46:56,572 --> 01:46:57,532
Speaker 2: It always is down there.

2118
01:46:57,692 --> 01:46:57,973
Speaker 3: Love it.

2119
01:46:58,053 --> 01:47:02,412
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Julian. Someone ticks through Tyler just

2120
01:47:02,572 --> 01:47:05,933
Speaker 2: high retent. I never thought about that. I mean it

2121
01:47:06,133 --> 01:47:09,132
Speaker 2: kind of makes sense, but I have never seen anywhere

2122
01:47:09,173 --> 01:47:11,692
Speaker 2: that would rent out a tint. I imagine they do exist.

2123
01:47:11,812 --> 01:47:14,173
Speaker 2: But if you've rented a tent, if you can rent

2124
01:47:14,173 --> 01:47:17,532
Speaker 2: an inflatable tin, that probably solves my issue here that

2125
01:47:17,652 --> 01:47:19,692
Speaker 2: I can rent it. If it goes well, then I'll buy.

2126
01:47:20,452 --> 01:47:23,852
Speaker 2: But can you actually hire out tents? Oh, eight hundred

2127
01:47:23,893 --> 01:47:25,412
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call, David.

2128
01:47:25,452 --> 01:47:27,293
Speaker 23: How are you hey, Hi?

2129
01:47:29,053 --> 01:47:30,932
Speaker 2: Inflatable teints? Are you going mate?

2130
01:47:31,013 --> 01:47:31,133
Speaker 8: Ye?

2131
01:47:31,933 --> 01:47:33,173
Speaker 14: Yeah, playing as well?

2132
01:47:33,572 --> 01:47:36,893
Speaker 23: Uh convert? I think so to seven years ago. And

2133
01:47:37,013 --> 01:47:41,173
Speaker 23: then we have one that actually made I think it's

2134
01:47:41,213 --> 01:47:42,732
Speaker 23: an English brand mm hmm.

2135
01:47:42,973 --> 01:47:45,093
Speaker 8: And the highlight for me is.

2136
01:47:46,812 --> 01:47:49,013
Speaker 23: Because it has a big onwning that connects to the

2137
01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:52,372
Speaker 23: car as I drive a van as well, so I

2138
01:47:52,492 --> 01:47:54,932
Speaker 23: have people sleeping slipping in the van and you can

2139
01:47:55,053 --> 01:47:57,852
Speaker 23: just walk through the awning and then get into the.

2140
01:47:57,933 --> 01:48:00,732
Speaker 2: Tent and all that You've got it sorted. So we're

2141
01:48:00,772 --> 01:48:03,173
Speaker 2: talking as it a four man tent and then you

2142
01:48:03,253 --> 01:48:04,612
Speaker 2: can connect the awning to the van.

2143
01:48:05,652 --> 01:48:08,012
Speaker 23: Yes, yes, it's all in one piece. All one tis

2144
01:48:08,053 --> 01:48:11,173
Speaker 23: the connection or whatever. It's just there is another lever

2145
01:48:11,532 --> 01:48:13,972
Speaker 23: to just connect to the fin either at the back

2146
01:48:14,853 --> 01:48:18,213
Speaker 23: or the sliding door. And uh yeah, the whole ten

2147
01:48:18,732 --> 01:48:22,412
Speaker 23: is it's good. Inflatable it's good because everything is one piece. Yeah,

2148
01:48:22,853 --> 01:48:25,532
Speaker 23: you know, your your pole and the whole wall and

2149
01:48:25,652 --> 01:48:28,372
Speaker 23: everything is all in one piece. So it's very organized.

2150
01:48:28,372 --> 01:48:30,852
Speaker 23: It's pretty cool and put up real quick, put down

2151
01:48:30,853 --> 01:48:33,532
Speaker 23: real quick if you're an organized person. It's really really cool.

2152
01:48:33,973 --> 01:48:35,732
Speaker 2: You know the other thing I've seen, David, that has

2153
01:48:35,772 --> 01:48:38,612
Speaker 2: been popping up, obviously the inflatable teams. Everyone's raving about

2154
01:48:38,652 --> 01:48:41,973
Speaker 2: them good times. But the rooftop teint did you ever

2155
01:48:42,053 --> 01:48:44,652
Speaker 2: consider that? I see, I see them everywhere now usually

2156
01:48:44,732 --> 01:48:47,572
Speaker 2: there are youth forward rangers, but maybe on the van.

2157
01:48:47,732 --> 01:48:47,932
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2158
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Speaker 23: So like see, because in New Zealand, if you if

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Speaker 23: you're you want to be, we try everything. We try

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Speaker 23: camper van for rented, and then I'll all intend and

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Speaker 23: all that, and then we I came to the conclusion

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01:49:01,652 --> 01:49:05,652
Speaker 23: where you know, if you want rooftop ten, you want

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01:49:05,692 --> 01:49:07,933
Speaker 23: to do all year round and all that. It's just

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01:49:08,412 --> 01:49:11,412
Speaker 23: and not not ideal because it's going to be wet

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Speaker 23: and then you know, you can there's no connection with

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Speaker 23: your kitchen and all that stuff.

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01:49:16,532 --> 01:49:19,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know it's just a place to sleep. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I have seen them pop up everywre and I

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01:49:22,013 --> 01:49:24,772
Speaker 2: get that if they're on the Ford Rangers or the Utes.

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Speaker 2: I imagine most of the people using the old rooftop

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01:49:28,893 --> 01:49:31,412
Speaker 2: tent set up are hunters. So it's just a place

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01:49:31,452 --> 01:49:34,253
Speaker 2: to sleep. But David, thank you very much. Lucy, you've

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01:49:34,293 --> 01:49:35,772
Speaker 2: got a camping game changer.

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Speaker 6: Well, actually.

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01:49:40,692 --> 01:49:41,612
Speaker 7: Yeah, not as well.

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01:49:41,732 --> 01:49:42,492
Speaker 14: I do have a test.

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Speaker 6: But the thing that for me has changed the game

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01:49:45,372 --> 01:49:46,852
Speaker 6: as a sleeping bag liner.

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01:49:47,452 --> 01:49:50,893
Speaker 2: Sleeping bag line, a sleeping.

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01:49:50,612 --> 01:49:53,213
Speaker 6: Bag liner made out of a hundred percent silks. So

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Speaker 6: I've had them before. I as a young as a

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01:49:56,933 --> 01:50:00,173
Speaker 6: young backpacker, I made myself as one out of a sheet.

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01:50:01,253 --> 01:50:04,652
Speaker 6: But then I came across still sleeping bag liners, and

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01:50:05,572 --> 01:50:11,293
Speaker 6: oh my god, talk about taking luxury with you wherever

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01:50:11,372 --> 01:50:11,612
Speaker 6: you go.

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01:50:12,173 --> 01:50:16,572
Speaker 2: I like your style silk sleeping bagliner. Oh yeah, they

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01:50:16,612 --> 01:50:17,493
Speaker 2: look luxurious.

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01:50:18,893 --> 01:50:19,933
Speaker 9: It is in it, you know.

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01:50:19,973 --> 01:50:23,812
Speaker 6: I mean it's light, and it's it's warm, and it's

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01:50:23,933 --> 01:50:26,293
Speaker 6: fool and it's weighs nothing.

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01:50:26,053 --> 01:50:27,293
Speaker 7: And it takes up no space.

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01:50:27,412 --> 01:50:29,213
Speaker 6: And I've bought them for everybody I know.

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01:50:30,853 --> 01:50:31,692
Speaker 19: Because I just love it.

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01:50:32,013 --> 01:50:34,772
Speaker 6: I love it And sometimes actually when I go on

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01:50:34,853 --> 01:50:37,572
Speaker 6: stat friends places, I if I'm just going for a night,

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01:50:37,692 --> 01:50:39,852
Speaker 6: I'll even take it so that I saved their sheeps.

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Speaker 3: That it all.

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01:50:42,253 --> 01:50:44,293
Speaker 2: If you take it with you, even when you're not campaign,

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01:50:44,372 --> 01:50:47,053
Speaker 2: that is a game changer. I'm looking at them now.

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01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:52,572
Speaker 2: That the fairly priced, so it depends.

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Speaker 6: Where you buy them from. But it's but like but

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01:50:55,452 --> 01:50:57,973
Speaker 6: like your man said, the fool with the tent, if

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01:50:58,053 --> 01:51:01,973
Speaker 6: their chiefs, they're probably not silk. I got mine from

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01:51:02,013 --> 01:51:07,333
Speaker 6: a place, an online company in Wellington. That's where that's

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01:51:07,333 --> 01:51:09,452
Speaker 6: where I get all the ones that I But yeah,

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01:51:10,133 --> 01:51:13,893
Speaker 6: it's silk is reflected in the press not bad, you know,

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01:51:14,213 --> 01:51:16,133
Speaker 6: about a hundbable fifty dollars.

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01:51:16,452 --> 01:51:18,572
Speaker 2: But it's that's also something I can take into the

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01:51:18,572 --> 01:51:21,173
Speaker 2: back country. Imagine that ways next to bugger all that

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01:51:21,293 --> 01:51:23,212
Speaker 2: I can just put that in the in the backpack

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01:51:23,853 --> 01:51:26,093
Speaker 2: and get a little bit of luxury on top of

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01:51:26,133 --> 01:51:26,572
Speaker 2: a mountain.

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01:51:27,492 --> 01:51:28,053
Speaker 14: Completely.

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01:51:29,772 --> 01:51:33,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, love it, Lucy, thank you very much. Silk sleeping bagliner.

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01:51:34,572 --> 01:51:36,812
Speaker 2: I love that Rob, you want to have a chat

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01:51:36,812 --> 01:51:40,293
Speaker 2: about t MOO tents, not.

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01:51:40,372 --> 01:51:44,932
Speaker 32: Particularly about tents, but team OU generally, if you are

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01:51:45,173 --> 01:51:48,652
Speaker 32: unsatisfied with their goods and they're not upto quality, which,

2219
01:51:48,732 --> 01:51:51,412
Speaker 32: to be fair, an awful lot of them are not.

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01:51:52,732 --> 01:51:55,612
Speaker 32: If you take a photograph and complain, they will give

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01:51:55,652 --> 01:51:58,333
Speaker 32: you your money back. Now I don't know when this

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01:51:58,492 --> 01:52:02,093
Speaker 32: would include a five hundred dollars or a thousand dollars

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01:52:02,173 --> 01:52:05,652
Speaker 32: tent or not, because I've never been there, but certainly

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01:52:05,853 --> 01:52:08,972
Speaker 32: for smaller stuff they will give you your money bank.

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01:52:09,933 --> 01:52:12,093
Speaker 2: Is it a pain to get that money bank? Or

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01:52:12,173 --> 01:52:13,213
Speaker 2: is it pretty easy process?

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01:52:13,652 --> 01:52:16,933
Speaker 32: No, it's it's pretty easy process. You take a photograph,

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01:52:17,093 --> 01:52:21,492
Speaker 32: you post it online to show you what the defect is,

2229
01:52:23,253 --> 01:52:26,772
Speaker 32: and the money comes back almost immediately, much the same

2230
01:52:26,812 --> 01:52:29,013
Speaker 32: as Ali Express. I mean an express that does the

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01:52:29,093 --> 01:52:32,532
Speaker 32: same if you're not happy and you've got good cause.

2232
01:52:33,532 --> 01:52:36,053
Speaker 32: And to be fair, the first time I did it,

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01:52:36,133 --> 01:52:37,933
Speaker 32: I think it's just a pair of shorts which just

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01:52:39,372 --> 01:52:43,532
Speaker 32: weren't very good shows. They wanted a photograph, so I

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01:52:43,652 --> 01:52:47,372
Speaker 32: sent them through a photograph of a seagull which I

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01:52:47,452 --> 01:52:51,533
Speaker 32: happen to have on my gallery, who's actually an albatross

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01:52:51,572 --> 01:52:55,532
Speaker 32: in the Southern Ocean, but that's by the buy and

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01:52:56,173 --> 01:52:58,492
Speaker 32: they just want a photograph. They don't I don't think

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01:52:58,532 --> 01:53:00,532
Speaker 32: they want a photograph of the isem. They just want

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Speaker 32: to photo and they send me my money bag. It's

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01:53:02,412 --> 01:53:03,812
Speaker 32: only about twenty bucks or something.

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01:53:03,933 --> 01:53:06,732
Speaker 2: Maybe they just really like the photograph of the seagull. Rob,

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01:53:06,732 --> 01:53:11,412
Speaker 2: you never know, man, that guy knows how to photograph. See. Yeah,

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01:53:12,093 --> 01:53:14,772
Speaker 2: that's interesting because I always thought I have I've never

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01:53:14,853 --> 01:53:17,133
Speaker 2: bought anything off Timu, but I have bought off Ali

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01:53:17,213 --> 01:53:20,012
Speaker 2: Express in the past, and I kind of thought, whatever

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01:53:20,093 --> 01:53:22,973
Speaker 2: money I spend on that platform, if the if the

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01:53:23,732 --> 01:53:26,532
Speaker 2: product is no good, all good, I've lost that money.

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01:53:26,572 --> 01:53:28,492
Speaker 2: But you're telling me it's pretty easy process to get

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01:53:28,532 --> 01:53:29,772
Speaker 2: your money back if it's dodgy.

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01:53:29,933 --> 01:53:32,933
Speaker 32: Yes, but Only Express does sell quite a lot of

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01:53:33,013 --> 01:53:37,852
Speaker 32: branded goods as well, and suser isn't particularly cheap, but

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01:53:37,933 --> 01:53:40,812
Speaker 32: if he's branded, they're good goods, and the generally speaking,

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01:53:40,893 --> 01:53:42,532
Speaker 32: they have pretty pretty reasonable price.

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Speaker 2: Nice to hear from your Rob, Thank you very much.

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01:53:44,452 --> 01:53:48,412
Speaker 2: And just on Rob's point, this text to Tyler, why

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01:53:48,452 --> 01:53:51,253
Speaker 2: do you keep bad mouthing Timu? Their refund policy is

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01:53:51,293 --> 01:53:54,692
Speaker 2: better than other online shopping I have dealt with often

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01:53:54,732 --> 01:53:56,973
Speaker 2: a refund with no need to return the item as

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01:53:57,013 --> 01:53:59,412
Speaker 2: it costs them too much to have it back. I've

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01:53:59,492 --> 01:54:02,253
Speaker 2: never never needed to do a large return. Gin Well,

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01:54:02,293 --> 01:54:03,852
Speaker 2: thank you very much. I don't know if I was

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01:54:03,893 --> 01:54:07,213
Speaker 2: bad mouthing Timu. I just have my reservations as all.

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01:54:08,013 --> 01:54:11,012
Speaker 2: But maybe maybe I'll take a punt on a TM

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01:54:11,253 --> 01:54:13,053
Speaker 2: tent and let you know how I get on. Oh

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01:54:13,093 --> 01:54:15,293
Speaker 2: had one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Will have time

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01:54:15,412 --> 01:54:17,852
Speaker 2: for another couple of calls. It is eight minutes to four.

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01:54:19,333 --> 01:54:22,732
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:54:23,053 --> 01:54:26,772
Speaker 1: everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you

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01:54:26,973 --> 01:54:29,532
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four used talk, said zaid B.

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01:54:30,452 --> 01:54:33,293
Speaker 2: News talksz B Bruce. We've got about sixty seconds.

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01:54:34,493 --> 01:54:37,733
Speaker 16: All right, I've just got two points of view. I

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01:54:38,013 --> 01:54:42,493
Speaker 16: live full time in the camping ground yep, a different

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01:54:42,533 --> 01:54:44,973
Speaker 16: setup in Minavi now. But I have gone through the

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01:54:45,573 --> 01:54:48,453
Speaker 16: research for at tents in the past. But I speak

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01:54:48,493 --> 01:54:52,613
Speaker 16: to a lot of inflavorable tent people in the camping

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01:54:52,733 --> 01:54:57,892
Speaker 16: area where I'm at, and they're generally haven't been happy

2278
01:54:57,973 --> 01:55:01,493
Speaker 16: with them, and the main reason is the tents collapsed

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01:55:01,573 --> 01:55:04,333
Speaker 16: in a wind or a decent wind right, but maybe

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01:55:04,493 --> 01:55:08,972
Speaker 16: there's maybe there's newer tents that are more sturdy these days. Yeah,

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01:55:09,173 --> 01:55:12,693
Speaker 16: and however, look at about a second or two for

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01:55:12,772 --> 01:55:14,973
Speaker 16: another point of view. When I did research on what

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01:55:15,093 --> 01:55:19,053
Speaker 16: I wanted for my own tent, I went eventually.

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01:55:18,693 --> 01:55:20,613
Speaker 10: Went with a steal.

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01:55:22,733 --> 01:55:26,812
Speaker 16: A steel type hoot type tent that had it was

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01:55:26,893 --> 01:55:28,533
Speaker 16: a polyester type of thing.

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01:55:28,812 --> 01:55:31,373
Speaker 2: Yep, well that sounds good, Bruce. Good place to finish.

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01:55:31,453 --> 01:55:33,653
Speaker 2: I think I am converted on the inflatable tendon to

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01:55:33,693 --> 01:55:36,932
Speaker 2: everybody tixing through Saint Tyler, borrow our tint and then

2290
01:55:36,973 --> 01:55:38,973
Speaker 2: if you like it, you can buy another one. You

2291
01:55:39,133 --> 01:55:41,253
Speaker 2: are good people. That is why I love New Zealand

2292
01:55:41,253 --> 01:55:43,052
Speaker 2: and lots of those techs and I'll try and respond

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01:55:43,093 --> 01:55:45,012
Speaker 2: to some of those. Thank you very much for today.

2294
01:55:45,453 --> 01:55:48,733
Speaker 2: Matter is back for tomorrow Friday. We've got topical tunes

2295
01:55:49,133 --> 01:55:52,533
Speaker 2: and New Zealander of the week, so looking forward to that.

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01:55:52,653 --> 01:55:55,933
Speaker 2: Have a great afternoon. Hither is coming up next We

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01:55:56,053 --> 01:55:57,252
Speaker 2: will catch it in tomorrow

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