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Speaker 1: More money announced for our hospitals. This is not new money.

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Speaker 1: It was in the budget. We just find out where

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Speaker 1: exactly it's going. One hundred millions been set aside for upgrades.

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Speaker 1: There are twenty one projects, everything from new ed spaces,

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Speaker 1: trends at Lunge is extra parking. We also got twenty

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Speaker 1: million to boost front line staffing. Doctor Buzzburroll is the

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Speaker 1: rural hospital doctor and chair of the General Practice Group

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Speaker 1: and us with us. Buzz morning to Morty.

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Speaker 2: Mike always got to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: How are you very well? Indeed? Is it touch up

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Speaker 1: stuff as something transformational happening here or we just don't

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Speaker 1: know yet.

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Speaker 2: I think all of the above. I think it would

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Speaker 2: be wise for anybody to welcome any expenditure in health

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Speaker 2: and so it's got to be appreciated. However, Ye, right,

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Speaker 2: it is really very touch that's that one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I believe there's twenty one projects. That's five million per

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Speaker 2: project over two years. That's roughly a modest villa in

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Speaker 2: Mount Eden per project. It's not going to change the

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Speaker 2: face of the world. We'll certainly in the primary set

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Speaker 2: to What we're really looking forward to is that there's

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Speaker 2: a serious, serious investment in primary care as opposed to

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Speaker 2: touching up the secondary sector. Mindful, we're coming up to

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Speaker 2: an election, so of course investment primary care is not sexy.

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Speaker 2: Investment in secondary care is more Operations are much more

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Speaker 2: exciting than be a control of the blood pressure. So

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Speaker 2: that can understand why the announcement is made. But really

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Speaker 2: it's touch that stuff. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Part of what Luction's always argued is we've spend thirty

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Speaker 1: three billion dollars in health. Is there an argument there

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Speaker 1: at all that says that's enough. It's more about the

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Speaker 1: quality of the expenditure as it is about the amount.

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Speaker 2: A bit of both. The quality is questionable. We seem

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Speaker 2: to be still top heavy investing in the secondary sector.

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Speaker 2: And it's an old formula now, but if you spend

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Speaker 2: a dollar in primary care, you save ten dollars in

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Speaker 2: the secondary sector. Somehow that investment always seems to be

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Speaker 2: lost with successive politicians, and I've seen that over the

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Speaker 2: last thirty years. But if we're spending that much, it's

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Speaker 2: still less than the OECD. We're number twenty one, I

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Speaker 2: believe in the OECD list of what we spend on

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Speaker 2: health compared to the twenty people above us. So even

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Speaker 2: though it seems like a lot of money, it's still

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Speaker 2: not enough, and it clearly is not enough. And certainly

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Speaker 2: even in the secondary sector, we've got I think last

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Speaker 2: year eighty odd thousand rejections from the secondary sector of

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Speaker 2: referrals from the primary sector because there was not capacity

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Speaker 2: to meet them, i e. People who need care are

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Speaker 2: not getting it, and don't forget that inverse care or

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Speaker 2: people who need care the most credit the least. And

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Speaker 2: we're a fantastic example of that in this country. That

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Speaker 2: needs to be reversed so that that is really billiant.

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Speaker 2: It's a not enough and b wrong descent.

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Speaker 1: UZ appreciate your time, Doctor Buzzberyl Rural Hospital doctor, chair

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Speaker 1: of the General Practice Group.

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