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Speaker 1: Well, my least favorite data dump yesterday. This business, firstly

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Speaker 1: the tourism that we've been talking about yet again reminds

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Speaker 1: me how when I was asking well and excess of

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Speaker 1: a year ago, where the hell all the people were,

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Speaker 1: no one seemed to care or hear me. Fast forward

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Speaker 1: eighteen months, with the number stuck at about eighty percent

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Speaker 1: of what they were five years ago. The industry, i

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Speaker 1: read now, is but worried. Why weren't they worried when

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Speaker 1: I was worried? Why does it take so many so

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Speaker 1: long to wake up to what's actually staring them in

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Speaker 1: the face. But they're not as bad as the migration

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Speaker 1: figures also out yesterday. We are still leaving this country

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Speaker 1: in record numbers. I mean overall we are gaining people, yes,

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Speaker 1: but the people are coming in from China and Deafiji

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Speaker 1: and the Philippines, which is not being racist at all

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Speaker 1: that it is questioning just what sort of skills they're bringing.

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Speaker 1: How great is the cultural balance being affected by us

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Speaker 1: leaving in them arriving. The reason I hate the departure

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Speaker 1: numbers so much is several fold. One, they're mainly the young,

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Speaker 1: not good for our future. Two, it isn't stopping. I mean,

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Speaker 1: having people scarper isn't new, but having them scarper continually

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Speaker 1: for such a long period is places like well and

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Speaker 1: being hollowed out as the young leave, but the arrivals

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Speaker 1: land in places like Auckland. So overall we're not replacing

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Speaker 1: like with like. But the thing that irks me most

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Speaker 1: is the credibility issue. We look like crap, We look

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Speaker 1: like a bad party, We look like Nigel Nomades. Our

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Speaker 1: rep is rubbish. New Zealanders look around month after month

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Speaker 1: after month after month and say, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be here anymore. I don't like it here.

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Speaker 1: I like it over there and over there is mainly Australia,

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Speaker 1: of course, and I've never liked losing to Australia. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't mind people leaving. I don't mind competing. It's

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Speaker 1: free and open world. But I think that is part

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Speaker 1: of the issue. Are we competing? Are we competitive as

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Speaker 1: a country? What do we actually offer? What's compelling about

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Speaker 1: New Zealand and twenty twenty four see numbers don't lie.

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Speaker 1: Immigration is often driven by the wanderlust of youth. This

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Speaker 1: is more than wanderlust, This is dislike. This is no

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Speaker 1: future This is despair. We are bleeding, and people are talent,

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Speaker 1: and our talent's leaving. Of all the damage labor did

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Speaker 1: to this country, forcing its young people out might historically

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Speaker 1: be shown to be the most ruinous thing of all.

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