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Speaker 2: fresh episode for today, Thursday, the thirteenth of March. Roaring
Speaker 2: into the podcast. That sounds like my mate, Darcy wata Grove.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, guess what I'm drawling over right now?
Speaker 2: I would imagine it's something to do with what is
Speaker 2: happening about three and a half hours to our west
Speaker 2: in Australia, with qualifying practice etc. About to begin ahead
Speaker 2: of the Australian Grand Prix on Sunday, featuring one Al Lawson.
Speaker 3: I'm ridiculously excited, beyond excited for I hope Liam's calmer
Speaker 3: than I am. I really to cook hit a right
Speaker 3: bit of trouble. But look I caught up with his dad,
Speaker 3: Jared Lawson and Addie yarn to him about the energy
Speaker 3: this race, if he's changed much of Jared's actually noticed
Speaker 3: much about Limb and the way he's handling things. And
Speaker 3: he actually came home. He spent a bit of time
Speaker 3: back at the family home, eating decent dinner and getting
Speaker 3: told to clean his room up, So it sounds like
Speaker 3: he's very, very calm. But near more about that with
Speaker 3: Jared Lawson and we're going to hit that ground running surely.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to hearing from the father of one of
Speaker 2: our big sporting stars. A few issues to kick around
Speaker 2: in the chamber, and today's later sports news as well,
Speaker 2: So let's get.
Speaker 4: Into it, please, let's do it. In other news checking
Speaker 4: out some of the big news stories around today.
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson's tempering any lofty expectations as he adjust to
Speaker 2: life as a full time Formula One driver with red
Speaker 2: Ball Hell debut this weekend at the season opening Australian
Speaker 2: Grand Prix.
Speaker 5: I'm not going in there thinking that from the very
Speaker 5: start we're going to be winning races, qualifying on poland
Speaker 5: sitting off onto the sunset. It's going to be extremely tough,
Speaker 5: but for the amount of prep with it, we've done
Speaker 5: everything we can.
Speaker 2: Hurricanes co captain of Sapfuama changed to get back on
Speaker 2: the rugby field after a delay in his recovery from
Speaker 2: off season foot surgery. He's been named to come off
Speaker 2: the bench for the Hurricanes tomorrow night against the Highlanders
Speaker 2: and Dunedin.
Speaker 4: A slow and if you hiccups along the way, well
Speaker 4: other little nibules around my foot and league, So being
Speaker 4: frustrated watching rugby put the most wash.
Speaker 3: What's like every game every weekend.
Speaker 2: And a controversial call and the penalty shootout has seen
Speaker 2: Real Madrid squeeze pass rivals Atletico and then too the
Speaker 2: quarterfinals the Football's Champions League, Rail prevailed four to two
Speaker 2: on spot kicks. Athletico's third penalty, slotted by Julian Alvarez,
Speaker 2: was later overturned because the referee deemed he touched the
Speaker 2: ball twice as he slipped and kicked it. Antonio Rudiger
Speaker 2: scored the winner for Rail all.
Speaker 5: Those years in the game, I don't like talk tip.
Speaker 2: It up RUDIGERA squeezed it in Real Madrid.
Speaker 5: Yes a game.
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Speaker 3: Huge weekend. Well, that is an understatement. In the motor
Speaker 3: sport world, especially for New Zealand fans of race cars,
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson is competing. We're joined now by his father,
Speaker 3: Jared Lawson.
Speaker 6: Okay, Jared, Hey, Darcy, how are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. I'm very very excited, but probably not
Speaker 3: as excited as you and the family. Your boy gets
Speaker 3: the start off as Formula one career, it's starting in Melbourne.
Speaker 3: We know he's had eleven races, but now it's bona fide,
Speaker 3: he's in red ball. It's all go from now. A
Speaker 3: talk about excitement, talk about pressure though, how's that working?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well the pressures are given, is always there, I guess.
Speaker 7: But the excitement, yeah, I think everyone's awaited a long
Speaker 7: time for it to happen, so.
Speaker 6: And it's come around. I mean the first race has
Speaker 6: come around pretty quick.
Speaker 7: So he he's excited. I think the whole family, all
Speaker 7: the supporters. There's a hell of a continuent of people.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of people who have come across for it.
Speaker 6: So that's really cool.
Speaker 3: You've had him at home though recently, right, so he's
Speaker 3: had a bit of like you know, down home cooking
Speaker 3: and a bit of relaxation. How important is that for
Speaker 3: him to actually feel that?
Speaker 7: I think for him it's very important because he kind
Speaker 7: of his family is quite it was a close family,
Speaker 7: so when he's home he enjoys that, you know, the
Speaker 7: home cooking, the you know they're.
Speaker 6: Sitting around playing guitars but laughing. You know that sort
Speaker 6: of stuff.
Speaker 7: So I think it was a really nice way for
Speaker 7: him just to recharge before he came across.
Speaker 3: A massive decompress for him. What it's been like for
Speaker 3: him since he's been given the seat and the intense
Speaker 3: engagement with him from the media, from Formula one, from
Speaker 3: the fans, that that could be overwhelming. How's he coping
Speaker 3: with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Look, I can't even imagine what his phone's doing. My
Speaker 7: phone's gone ballistic. Go to the last week and a
Speaker 7: half two.
Speaker 6: Sorry, which is which is great, Like the messages of support.
Speaker 7: Have been just overwhelming, to be honest, But no, I
Speaker 7: think I mean he's he's well used to it now.
Speaker 7: And you know, because he stepped into the into the
Speaker 7: Red Bull roll in terms of full time late last year.
Speaker 7: You know, it's just a I guess, a progression and
Speaker 7: he's had a couple of months to adjust. And certainly
Speaker 7: it's a lot busier. His his media commitments, everything are
Speaker 7: how of a lot busier now than what they were
Speaker 7: last year, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Have you noticed anything different in the way he is
Speaker 3: leading into this event?
Speaker 7: No, I have been looking for for anything like that,
Speaker 7: but no, he's no different to be honest, he's approaching
Speaker 7: in the same way I think, and which is probably
Speaker 7: a good thing, and not seeing anything different about him.
Speaker 6: Really, he seems pretty relaxed well, and.
Speaker 3: That's why he's got there in the first place, very focused.
Speaker 3: I was talking on a Yesday editorial piece about the
Speaker 3: idea of him actually locking in and forgetting all the
Speaker 3: outside noise and just doing what he does best, and
Speaker 3: I from what we've seen of his career so far,
Speaker 3: is adept at doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Again, it's just I guess it's just a year on ye.
Speaker 7: I mean, the pressure ramps up that the you know,
Speaker 7: the stakes get higher, a bit higher, you know, and
Speaker 7: now it's just continue to do that. I mean performance
Speaker 7: on track is crucial obviously, but I think these first
Speaker 7: few rounds is Melbourne has never done the track. In fact,
Speaker 7: I think it's the only drivers never actually driven the track,
Speaker 7: and the Shanghai is never done. So for him, it's
Speaker 7: just about getting up to speed and trying to trying
Speaker 7: to pull some some valuable points out of those first
Speaker 7: few races and just build on that from there.
Speaker 3: I just wondering about the expectation on results we can
Speaker 3: weak out has been that been laid down to what
Speaker 3: the expectations are or what he expects himself, because he's
Speaker 3: not going to shake up the world in the first
Speaker 3: couple of rounds, but he must have an idea about
Speaker 3: where he'd be comfortable for this such a thing in
Speaker 3: Formula one result wise.
Speaker 7: Well, it's interesting thing about Formula One as they do
Speaker 7: the preseason testing and then we all wait to see
Speaker 7: the first round and see where, you know, where the
Speaker 7: cars shake out in terms of performance. So I don't
Speaker 7: think anyone's fully aware yet as to the pecking order,
Speaker 7: although you know, I think everyone's reasonably confident McLaren on
Speaker 7: McLaren aer on top. But and this track is a
Speaker 7: bit of an outlier anyway, being a street seker, so
Speaker 7: I think, you know, in terms of his expectation, he's
Speaker 7: always got high expectations, but I think the team aren't
Speaker 7: putting too much expectation. And I think really it's just
Speaker 7: about learning and trying to get him up to speed
Speaker 7: as quickly as possible, bearing in mind he's you know,
Speaker 7: he's got a fairly big mountains one considering he's never
Speaker 7: done the track and the.
Speaker 3: Way he's developed his craft coming from pretty much nothing
Speaker 3: up to the to the top of the tree with
Speaker 3: the help from his family. So he brought you a
Speaker 3: new house yet.
Speaker 6: Jared, No, I'm afraid that's a long way away, still
Speaker 6: in debt.
Speaker 3: Laugh about that, but that's the hra the top of
Speaker 3: Formula one. You're making, you know, millions and millions of
Speaker 3: dollars a year. You just get in. It's not so big.
Speaker 3: How I'm stunned that he's never actually driven around Albert
Speaker 3: Park before that. It's just over the road. It's bizarre.
Speaker 7: Well, the thing is because F two and F three
Speaker 7: only came here the last last couple of years, and
Speaker 7: he was of course doing super Formula, so he he's
Speaker 7: He took James Courtney around in James's VA.
Speaker 6: Last year for a lap for a hot lab and.
Speaker 7: That was That's about the sum total of the track
Speaker 7: time he's had around this round the circuit.
Speaker 3: And he's spent plenty of time stuck stuck in the
Speaker 3: sim you got a simulator at home, he's been on
Speaker 3: the PlayStation. He would have done a lap after lap
Speaker 3: after lap. Surely you'd like to think he knows it
Speaker 3: by the back of his hand.
Speaker 6: Ah, I'm sure.
Speaker 7: I'm sure he's done a lot of summer in the
Speaker 7: UK before he left them, and they have all there
Speaker 7: some days, so yeah, he would have done a heck
Speaker 7: of a lot of some work.
Speaker 6: But yeah, at home, I mean he's still got a
Speaker 6: sim set up.
Speaker 7: But I'm not sure if he went around there with
Speaker 7: Park but it was home, I must ask, actually.
Speaker 3: And he just was Liam Lawson when he was at home.
Speaker 3: He's just your son doing what the son did yet
Speaker 3: to tell him to clean his room, to bring his
Speaker 3: distance out of his bedroom, that all that kind of
Speaker 3: regular stuff. And nothing's changed there, right, Jared.
Speaker 6: I didn't not Absolutely nothing has changed there. I can
Speaker 6: tell you it's still the same as it was ten
Speaker 6: years ago.
Speaker 3: Has he said anything around the differences you said, you
Speaker 3: haven't noticed anything. I know how reserved he is or
Speaker 3: empties everything out to you, But has anything struck him
Speaker 3: in the last couple of months that maybe he didn't
Speaker 3: see coming?
Speaker 7: Not really as a sayman, I think it's because it's
Speaker 7: been a you know, a gradual build and the way
Speaker 7: things have worked out.
Speaker 6: I think he knew that the seat was coming.
Speaker 7: It slight well, a little bit of ahead of time
Speaker 7: before he actually finally got her, So he's had time
Speaker 7: to ease you know or ease into it in terms
Speaker 7: of our mental approach.
Speaker 6: So I don't think I haven't certainly haven't seen any
Speaker 6: any change.
Speaker 7: And he hasn't mentioned anything, or it's just that the
Speaker 7: media attention has just gone.
Speaker 6: You know, it's a lot more there's a lot more
Speaker 6: attention on them, that's for sure.
Speaker 7: I mean, when you're in a front running team, it's
Speaker 7: quite different to being in a midfield team in terms
Speaker 7: of the attention.
Speaker 3: You can well, we're really looking forward to this and
Speaker 3: that is the understatement of the year for me. Jared,
Speaker 3: Thanks for making yourself available now. It's super super busy
Speaker 3: for you. All there are wishing you the best. Ibie
Speaker 3: drives it like he stole it, just like a good
Speaker 3: South Auckland kid, And thanks for your time, mate, enjoy it.
Speaker 7: No worries and just thanks everybody for all all the
Speaker 7: support messages and so forth. He's been He's been overwhelmed
Speaker 7: by all. So that's great, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Sex got the email yesterday. Looks like my sky burl
Speaker 3: is going up again. My initial response to that was,
Speaker 3: I really you want another teen twelve percent of me?
Speaker 3: What for? And then I looked down the list and
Speaker 3: thought you know, if I'm being really honest, it's still
Speaker 3: represents it's very good value for money. It does for
Speaker 3: me because I'm in the sport broadcasting business. I have
Speaker 3: to have Sky to keep up with the play. But
Speaker 3: I'm also a massive fan of Formula one, of Rugby,
Speaker 3: Union of golf. I want to see all those things
Speaker 3: and I want them at my fingertips. And for the
Speaker 3: amount of money I'm paying, I really can't complain. I've
Speaker 3: got a sneaking suspicion the reason that this increase has happened,
Speaker 3: because they happen with alarming regularity. I think Sky have
Speaker 3: probably signed a deal with New Zealand Rugby which will
Speaker 3: invariably cost them more, which means it will cost us
Speaker 3: more because they always pass it back to the consumer.
Speaker 3: But that's okay, right, So I think this is a
Speaker 3: harbringer of a new contract for Sky and the All Blacks.
Speaker 3: And if that is the case, and I can't back
Speaker 3: this up with anything concrete, I suspect this is the case.
Speaker 3: I'm very pleased to Sky, I'm pleased for the All Blacks.
Speaker 3: I'm pleased for New Zealand at Rugby. It is the
Speaker 3: absolute pinnacle of sport broadcasting. In this country. This is
Speaker 3: the diamond. This is the contract that everybody wants, and
Speaker 3: for Sky to secure that and keep us all calm
Speaker 3: and steady, along, of course with the cricket coverage that
Speaker 3: they have already secured, this represents great value for money,
Speaker 3: good news for Sky and quite frankly good news for
Speaker 3: the customer out in case you're wondering, they don't give
Speaker 3: it to me for free? Right, This is not a
Speaker 3: party political broadcast. I pay just like the rest of you.
Speaker 6: We are now in session on.
Speaker 2: Sports, and to the chamber we go where we find
Speaker 2: a crestfallen vern Cotter. Well, he's not with us, but
Speaker 2: a crest fall and fallen vern Cootta.
Speaker 4: Will we call him crestfallen?
Speaker 2: He's without Boden Barrett for four to six weeks. Where
Speaker 2: where will that sit on vern Coott's emotional scale?
Speaker 3: Well, i'd understand why he'd be hiding in the chamber
Speaker 3: with us. This is not great news for him and
Speaker 3: his prospects. But in saying that, look it's got Harry Plummer.
Speaker 3: He's not hardly choppl lid of that bloke, is he?
Speaker 2: No, he's well, he guided the Blues to a super
Speaker 2: Rugby Championship last season, of course, But I guess you
Speaker 2: think to yourself, well, is a team better with Boden
Speaker 2: Barrett in it or with Boden Barrett not in as?
Speaker 4: And I guess, well has he been so far the season?
Speaker 3: Look at the Boden Barrett, what he's achieved, what he
Speaker 3: hasn't achieved. He's hardly set the world on fires.
Speaker 4: He Well, he had a really good first half last week,
Speaker 4: didn't he?
Speaker 2: And he scored that try And I think we were
Speaker 2: starting to see in the in the eventual loss of
Speaker 2: the Brumbies that he was starting to find that form
Speaker 2: starting at first five actually for the first time this season.
Speaker 2: So look, I think he was starting to get back
Speaker 2: to it. A hand fracture is just niggly, isn't it,
Speaker 2: because you don't know. I mean, the four to six
Speaker 2: weeks could be four, it could be six. It might
Speaker 2: even be a bit more. But regardless of all of that,
Speaker 2: the Blues will have to try and turn around what's
Speaker 2: been a pretty stuttering season does without one of their
Speaker 2: main men.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't mean to criticize Bowden Bower because we
Speaker 3: know when that counts he will stand up. So you know,
Speaker 3: teething problems early season. He'd have been fine later on
Speaker 3: on the piece. But if you're relying on defending your
Speaker 3: title based on the exploits of one player, you're in
Speaker 3: a power pop. And I'm sure that Stern Vern, who's
Speaker 3: no longer mirthful vern Cotta, knows that he's got bigger
Speaker 3: fish to fry than worrying about where his pivot's going
Speaker 3: to be and how long he's going to be injured for.
Speaker 3: You just can't focus like that, surely.
Speaker 2: No, it's got Stephen Petafetta two coming back into the
Speaker 2: mix hes off the bench against the Chiefs on Saturday night,
Speaker 2: so he does have another option there should he decide
Speaker 2: to use Stephen Petofetta in that perfect role. So yeah,
Speaker 2: big game coming up. I don't know whether you can
Speaker 2: answer this question to us, but the Blues are playing
Speaker 2: the Chiefs on Saturday night for the second time in
Speaker 2: five weeks.
Speaker 4: Why is that?
Speaker 3: Because that's the Super Rugby draw. That's the best answer
Speaker 3: I can give you, the most obvious one, ain't. Why not?
Speaker 3: Then people are re enthused about Super Rugby. This is
Speaker 3: one of the tremendous clashes. So it happened again in
Speaker 3: a short amount of time doesn't matter. Nah, I don't
Speaker 3: think so. People are keen as about super Rugby strike
Speaker 3: while the iron is hot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see.
Speaker 2: Even as she was saying that, I'm thinking to myself, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bloody watch it, watch it on Saturday night.
Speaker 2: So it's actually very good scheduling if you're just taking
Speaker 2: a survey of one and that's me into accounts.
Speaker 4: Can we talk some boxing.
Speaker 2: Joseph Parker was supposed to fight Daniel Dubois two or
Speaker 2: three weeks ago.
Speaker 4: That fight did not take place.
Speaker 2: Dubois pulled out pretty late in the piece with a
Speaker 2: supposed illness.
Speaker 4: And now, rather than.
Speaker 2: Do the you know, the do the right thing morally
Speaker 2: and say to Joseph Parker, okay, let's reschedule, he's gone
Speaker 2: off and started talks with Alexander Usik. So Parker is
Speaker 2: gonna have to watch those two go at it.
Speaker 3: It really brings a lot of muscle to the arm
Speaker 3: of the only reason you didn't fight Parker is because
Speaker 3: you wanted to reunify all of these belts and there
Speaker 3: was a chance that explosed of Joseph was going to
Speaker 3: melt you and you didn't want that, so you fled.
Speaker 3: You basically up and ran away. Now, whether there's it
Speaker 3: in truth to that or not, but now this latest
Speaker 3: situation where the fight's not going to be rescheduled, you go, No,
Speaker 3: that was definitely the truth. That was an avoidant play
Speaker 3: because he wants to fight for the title and Ousick.
Speaker 3: We don't know if it's happening yet, but I expect
Speaker 3: it would be to be a massive payday.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, but what excuse me? When does it leave
Speaker 4: Joseph Parker?
Speaker 2: Does it just leave him on the outside looking in,
Speaker 2: knowing that unfortunately he's not as big a name as
Speaker 2: either Daniel Dubois or Alexander Husick.
Speaker 3: Well, he could think that. He could think I'm not
Speaker 3: as big a name, but it also think they're all
Speaker 3: terrified of me. So fine, run and hide. I'll come
Speaker 3: and get you eventually, don't you worry about that. I'm
Speaker 3: sitting here lurking, and I think they both know that.
Speaker 3: Where he goes with his next fight on scheduled, we
Speaker 3: don't know yet, But I think with Joe, like a
Speaker 3: lot of fighters, the more active they are, the better
Speaker 3: they are. And when you look at Joe Parker and
Speaker 3: his last handful of fights, He's had a lot of
Speaker 3: time between scraps, still turned up with the goods, which
Speaker 3: says a lot for his training schedule, his diet, everything
Speaker 3: else about his camp. Even if he has to wait,
Speaker 3: he can still turn up with full effect. So he's
Speaker 3: a patient man, Joe Parker. He's been patient to wait
Speaker 3: for his time to come back again. And it's a virtue,
Speaker 3: I'm told, not that I reflect that in any way
Speaker 3: shape or for me.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, you have to take other
Speaker 2: people's having spent some time with you on Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean you are lots of things patient. Look on occasion
Speaker 2: you are, We're digressing. Look, am I being too logic
Speaker 2: would suggest if Usik beats du Bois, then Parker might
Speaker 2: have a shop a shot at usk or am I
Speaker 2: just being far too logical for the And he said
Speaker 2: two more fights.
Speaker 3: Basically he'succeed a couple more on I'm out. So if
Speaker 3: he can defend his belt, there might be a chance
Speaker 3: or his belts, there might be a chance to go.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm going to retire unbeaten. I've done
Speaker 3: what I need to do. There's no point in blemishing
Speaker 3: my copybook, and that might be more than likely although
Speaker 3: you'd expect for the grand outing Saudi rams and go,
Speaker 3: oh god, give us one warning shot. Why don't you
Speaker 3: be an understand it Usik. Once he's punched you bar
Speaker 3: on the face to great success, he'll go, I actually
Speaker 3: don't need to do this anymore. I've made my mark
Speaker 3: of proven myself and I've got all four straps back again.
Speaker 3: That's what he wanted. That's his goal.
Speaker 2: Yet, Yeah, and that would be twenty four unbeaten fights,
Speaker 2: including beating Tyson Fury twice, Anthony Joshua twice, Derek Gizora,
Speaker 2: and if he beats Dubois again, that would be Dubois twice.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you kind of think to yourself, what else
Speaker 2: has he got to do. He doesn't have to fight
Speaker 2: Joseph Parker, does he? No?
Speaker 3: But what happens if that does actually transpire. Suddenly there's
Speaker 3: going to be a whole of the straps up for
Speaker 3: grabs because old mate's going to walk away from the game,
Speaker 3: and there's going to be this huge tussle at that
Speaker 3: next level down amongst the boxes, the pugilists he talked
Speaker 3: about before, to try and get in there and have
Speaker 3: a crack at one of those straps, So the waters
Speaker 3: will open, the sea will divide. Should Usik beat up
Speaker 3: to bar and leave?
Speaker 4: All right? We wake with we wake with patients.
Speaker 2: You just hang on and we'll see what transpires with
Speaker 2: the world of protests.
Speaker 3: Were you going to give me that patience for because
Speaker 3: Andrew Webster tried that on me this week. You've got
Speaker 3: to show, but show any patients.
Speaker 2: I want winds Now, it's the it's the instant gratification
Speaker 2: that you're desiring.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's the ADHD. I can blame my chemical makeup.
Speaker 3: That's what I can blame. And I'm going to.
Speaker 4: All right, fair enough. On that note, we shall depart
Speaker 4: the chamber.
Speaker 2: We're back in here tomorrow talking about a massive sporting weekend,
Speaker 2: including quite a bit on Liam Lawson. But for now
Speaker 2: we will slam the door on the chamber. Come on, vern,
Speaker 2: out we go. And on that note, we'll finish the
Speaker 2: Sports Books podcast for today Thursday, March thirteen. But as
Speaker 2: I just mentioned, a fresh episode tomorrow, jam packed with
Speaker 2: preview material for the weekend ahead.
Speaker 4: Does well.
Speaker 3: It's a big weekend and for a number of reasons
Speaker 3: in sport we know this. We've all I've got the
Speaker 3: thing that we love that. We're looking forward to. I'm
Speaker 3: going to super glue myself to the couch. I'm going
Speaker 3: to watch all I can when it comes to practice,
Speaker 3: and then all of our qualifying and then all of
Speaker 3: the races at the perfect time. The Formula One season
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five gets underway Albert Park in Melbourne. Liam
Speaker 3: Lawson finally gets to take a decent car around the track.
Speaker 3: It's an understatement, so I'm excited.
Speaker 4: I can tell. I can tell.
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