1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The Mike 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover Discovery never stopped discovering news, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Tom's dead by. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Good news on rents, good news on tourism, and even 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: though you might have laughed at that Everybody Must Go campaign, 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: it's actually worked. Ed Sheeran is in for a catch 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: up after right, Joe McKenna is in Italy, and Rod 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Liddle's in the middle of Abril British summer pasking Welcome 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: to the Day. Michael Riddell, who appears on the show Fairbit, 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: has put the adrenal resignation back in the news. Now 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: he has a source he claims close to the action 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: that in simple terms suggests that what really happened was 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: that all pact said at a couple of meetings, one 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: of which was Worth Nikola Willis, the chair of the 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: RB Neil Quigley wrote to war with a list of 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: concerns over that behavior and therefore or quit. The underlying 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: issue appears to be the fact the government were determined 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: to cut the Reserve Bank's budget, which ultimately, of course, 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: they were successful in doing. Why Because, like everything else 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: under the labor government, too much money was spent, things 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: blew out, and the Reserve Bank had wandered off into 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: new and expensive areas that didn't need to be in 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: the main point being essentially what we thought happened. Did 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: Adrian or has a short use a fairly elevated sense 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: of entitlement and importance and didn't like what was unfolding, 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: which is fine. Didn't have to like it, and if 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: he disliked it so much, he could have walked, which 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: he did. But here is where this is important. He 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: held a critical role in all our lives. People in 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: jobs like that need to be exemplary, exemplary and execution 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: exemplary in person. He wasn't. He was a failure, which 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: then takes us back to how he got the job. Grant. 33 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: Not only did Robertson appoint or he reappointed him. Bad 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: people make bad decisions, and those bad decisions go on 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 2: to have consequences. By way of contrast, what do you reckon? 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: The pressure on Jerome poll is right now? Eh? Is 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: Powell yelling and packing as sad as Powell going to 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: quit in a massive Hessy fit and banish from the 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: face of the earth without a word. I got a 40 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: dollar with anyone who wants it that The answer to 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: that is no. Maybe your doesn't give a monkeys. Maybe 42 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: your is that sort of bloke so inflated and mesmerized 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: by himself he's well passed any reputational reflection, maybe grants too. 44 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: But the damage still sits in our bank accounts and 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: rates bills, an economic funk to this day. The bloke 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: who stuffed the joint packed us sad stormed out, never 47 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: to be heard from again. It is a sad indictment 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: on a role and influence that should have been handled 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: a great deal more elegantly and with a mile more professionalism. 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: Views of the world in ninety seconds, TI. 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Let's begin in the court rooms of America. The sentencing 52 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: hearing in the Coburger case has been going on overnight. 53 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: And when I met the. 54 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 5: Name on one call, I couldn't even get out the words, 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 5: and from then on I don't remember a thing. 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 4: It was like my brain wiped about whole memory. 57 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 6: That was the worst of my life. 58 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: He's got four life sentences. As regards the Epstein Maxwell move, 59 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: there is doubt that any of it's actually going to happen. 60 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 7: Breaking that covenant has to be better than there's a 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 7: lot of conspiracy thereus who want to hear more about 62 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 7: a sex scandal. 63 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: Then of the UK where we've got a shooting in Ireland. 64 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 8: Despite best medical efforts, two people were pronounce start of 65 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 8: the scene. Sadly, I can confirm that the third person 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 8: pause this afternoon, passed away in hospital. The fourth person 67 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 8: who has taken to hospital remains in condition described as 68 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 8: serious and growing. 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: Angster and migrants also Britain migrant hotels protests police treatment. 70 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 9: The only protection that obviicerly are doing is to those 71 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 9: lawful and law of violent people, whether they're in that accommodation, 72 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 9: whether they're the people of Epping, or whether they are 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 9: people who are standing there as I've seen, and you've 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 9: seen the footage standing there, you know, with platcards and banners, 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 9: wishing to make it very important and legitimate view. 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: As far as the Middle East goes well, the GAID 77 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: agencies continue to make their pleas. 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: This is the atrocity of our generation. 79 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: This is what history will remember that while food and 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 5: medicine sat in trucks miles away in warehouses, the world 81 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 5: chose politics over people and human beings, and that children 82 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: were serving while leaders did. 83 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: The Americans continue to hold their line. 84 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 10: Word that's being missed quite often is the word Hamas. 85 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 10: There is one group that could end this immediately, and 86 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 10: that is Hamas by laying down their weapons and by 87 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 10: releasing all the hostages. 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: Finally, Passport News and other ranking is out. We do 89 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 2: okay with fifth equal. In fact, this is the latest 90 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: quarterly Henley Index. We're as good as Switzerland and Greece, 91 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: or they're as good as us, whatever the case may be, 92 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: but not as good as Japan and South Korea. Who 93 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: was second equal? Spain, dear Mark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, 94 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: Italy are third. So whose number one? Yes, ladies and gentlemen. 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: Once again, Singapore is as good as it gets. So 96 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: that is news of the world and happy travels. In 97 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: ninety Speaking of Singapore, they got an inflation read four 98 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: year lowser. Things are well and truly under control on 99 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: that particular part of the world. They're forecasting now, where 100 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: is that growth four point one and four point three 101 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: percent over the year for the first and second quarter. 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 2: So they're going okay. And by the way, the fee 103 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: to America doesn't apply to us. So Trump did the 104 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: travel fee into America doesn't apply to US because of 105 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: the BESA situation, But the European Commission overnight has suggested 106 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: they're going to increase their entry fees for visa exempt 107 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: travelers from fourteen to forty dollars. In other words, it's 108 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: going to triple, so it's getting more expensive to travel. 109 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: Twelve past six, The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks EB. 111 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: Tell you what got really interesting in Japan last night 112 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: afternoon their time, multiple reports that Ashiba or Ishiba as 113 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: they call them, was going to quit next month as 114 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: a result of the elections, which were a disaster. Earlier 115 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: on the day, they were suggesting he was desperate to 116 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: get that deal through with Japan and the US and 117 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: that would be some sort of fillip for them. But 118 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: he's denied that he's quitting, So I don't know where 119 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: we're at. Fifteen past six. It's speaking which from different 120 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: funds management. Greg Morning Morning, Mike. Good to be a 121 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: carmaker in Japan. That'll be a sigh of relief, won't it? 122 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 7: Absolutely great news, isn't that? 123 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: So? 124 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, we've got to deal with the day Americas. For 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 7: Flarge's trading Plartner. I mean it was a bit wrong, 126 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 7: it wasn't it. They one of the first to start 127 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 7: talks back in April, but you know, they dragged on 128 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 7: and it's put the Woods four flower. Just economy dicing 129 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 7: with recession, and obviously the car makers have been under 130 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 7: the pump, and that's been a real bone of contention 131 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 7: for Trump, that the flows of cars are one way, 132 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 7: and that Japan's running a trade service of nearly seventy 133 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 7: billion year, so he's held the greatest deal on history. 134 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: Obviously, reciprocal tariffs. 135 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 7: They're going from twenty five percent threatening down to fifteen percent, 136 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 7: still above the baseline ten percent, but yeah, it's crucially 137 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 7: about that auto sector. That's more than a quarter of 138 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 7: US imports, so that terror freight has gone down to 139 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 7: fifteen percent from twenty seven and a half percent. So yeah, 140 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 7: Japanese car companies have been slashing the US sales. There's 141 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 7: been billions in profit downgrades. I've been scrambling to get 142 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 7: production to the US. So yeah, they can breathe a 143 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 7: huge sigh of relief. So Toyota shears are up fourteen percent, 144 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 7: Mesda eighteen percent, Subaru up seventeen percent, hundred eleven percent. 145 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 7: Japan she making embrace the news, of course, that soared 146 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 7: more than three and a half percent over fourteen hundred 147 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 7: points to forty one thousand. Japan's top trade negotiators said 148 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 7: it was mission accomplished. So what are they doing in return? 149 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 7: Trump reckons They're going to open themselves up to imports 150 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 7: of American cars, trucks, rice. 151 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: Big symbolic. 152 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 7: I'm not sure whether we're going to be seeing lots 153 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 7: of American rice on Japanese dinner tables, but hey, hoi, 154 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 7: But yeah, they have a big point. MICA's that they're 155 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 7: investing five hundred and fifty billion dollars into the US, 156 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 7: things like semiconductors and pharmaceuticals E recons and also PEPs 157 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 7: invest in a pipeline Alaska. Just by the way, Japan 158 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 7: is already the largest foreign investor in the US and 159 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 7: over two trillion. So here's this all about just paying 160 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 7: a bit more to gain favor preps. They're still tariffs 161 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 7: of fifty percent on stealing aluminium, but yet great news 162 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 7: for the country. Also the battle PM he reckons rumors 163 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 7: of his demiser greatly exaggerated by looks of things. But 164 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 7: we've also got other deals in with Philippines and Indonesia 165 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 7: around nineteen percent rates. And the big question is how 166 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 7: China plays out. Besons meeting is counterpart from Beijing next week, 167 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 7: and Trump reckons a deal with Europe is coming any 168 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 7: day now. 169 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: So let's see see what's interesting about what happened with Japan. 170 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: Is as excited as the carmakers may be. You look 171 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: at Stilantis the other day. The hit for them is massive, 172 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: and then you get to of course General Motors GM. Yeah, 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: that's right. 174 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 7: So the used carmakers have actually been a bit grumpy 175 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 7: in a way about this deal because they're saying, well, 176 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 7: you know, they're cutting the raid on Japan, but they're 177 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 7: still paying twenty five percent for their supplies through Canada 178 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 7: and Mexico. So in any event, General Motors she is 179 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 7: actually up eight percent on the news. So yeah, so 180 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 7: why is that. Well, they've had the results this week. 181 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 7: They actually flagged a one point one billion tear hit, 182 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 7: but nearly half of that relates to South Korea, and 183 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 7: I suppose is optimism now that we're going to see 184 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 7: a trade deal there as well. He actually saw that 185 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 7: in South Korean market as well. Hindai rallied over seven 186 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 7: percent on hopes for a similar deal. But yes, Zings 187 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 7: stand are certainly being hit by the ten Graffs. Gen 188 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 7: revenues down one point eight percent forty seven point one 189 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 7: billion US dollars that was eight hundred million more than expected. 190 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 7: Sales in the US were up seven percent. They also 191 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 7: swung back to a small profit in China. But yeah, 192 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 7: they've had flagged a tariff impact for this year four 193 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 7: to five billion dollars, so margins today and what at 194 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 7: the doing to try and counter that they reckon They 195 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 7: can actually mitigate around about thirty percent of that, so 196 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 7: investing four billion, and several American plants were moving increasing 197 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 7: production from of two Mexican produced vehicles. Are also looking 198 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 7: at increasing prices. Just by the Bible talked about EV's yesterday. 199 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 7: They had previously committed to exclusively offen EV's by twenty 200 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 7: thirty five. Then they sort of have gone back on that 201 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 7: a bit. And that's going to say consumer demands going 202 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 7: to dictate things. But she surged on the idea that 203 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 7: this trade not I suppose ruckers will all blow over than. 204 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,479 Speaker 2: Expected, right, give us the numbers. 205 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 7: Sure, So we have got the US markets loving this 206 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 7: trade news. So the Dow is up one percent forty 207 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 7: four nine to fifty, that's a record. S and P 208 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 7: five hundred up point six percent sixty three four seven 209 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 7: that is a record at NASDAK upper half percent twenty 210 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 7: nine eighty six, that is also a record. So loving 211 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 7: that footy one hundred actually also hitting a record up 212 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 7: point four percent nine zero six one. We've got Chinese 213 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 7: markets so were flat cs I three hundred. We've got 214 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 7: the nicke up three point five percent forty four one 215 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 7: seven one A SX two hundred point seven percent eight 216 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 7: seven three seven, n ZX fifty down point three percent 217 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 7: twelve seven nine four th fishing pike one in for 218 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 7: too lower goal down thirty eight dollars three thousand, three 219 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 7: hundred ninety three ounce oil down nine cents sixty. 220 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: Five spot twenty two a barrel. 221 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 7: In the currency markets, the key we is up point 222 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 7: six percent against ustollar sixty point four ninety one point 223 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 7: six against the Australian dollar, it's slightly high. Against the pound, 224 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 7: we're up point three percent forty four point five. And 225 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 7: Japanese yen, which obviously is getting a lot of attention, 226 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 7: we're up half percent eighty eight point four see tomorrow. 227 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Gregg Smith, Devon Funds Management speaking people wanting money into America. 228 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: Astra Zeneca has announced fifty billion into the US. They're 229 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: the latest farmer group to Anglo Swedish. But they'll put 230 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: fifty billion in by twenty thirty, they say. And after 231 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: the bell, which is eight o'clock this morning, our time, 232 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: somebody called Elon Musk and Tesla are going to report, 233 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: and it's widely expected that a second straight quarter of 234 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: declining revenue there she is a down seventeen percent. No 235 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: one likes an eed at the moment, they like it, 236 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: Tesler even less. Six twenty one Here at News Talks. 237 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 11: EDB. 238 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 239 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: by News Talks, ed B. 240 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: I knew you'd be big on this, Mike. The Willis 241 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: Fonterra debarcle is an embarrassments. Why National is where it 242 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: stands in the polls for eighteen months. They've had a 243 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: great opportunity to smash it and didn't support. Is there 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: for a party that shows courage and strength and its 245 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: decisions water wasted opportunity. Good morning, Mike. I'm very disappointed 246 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: with Willis going through with the butter issue. The NATS 247 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: are acting like desperate fools. Clarity and common senses what 248 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: we want? Thank you, Ron, how about stuff? You for 249 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: subjecting the local market to global prices. Why are we 250 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: paying the price for an overseas demand. There's a very 251 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: obvious answer to that. But breaking news this morning. Ian Proudfoot, 252 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: who we should actually get on the program probably tomorrow 253 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: from KBMG, has an idea. I think it's controversial. I 254 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: think it's never going to see the light of day. 255 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: He would argue otherwise, but I'll detail that for you shortly. Mike, 256 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: unclear where you're going with this fixation on the Finance 257 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: minister's comment about butter, which is after all only one 258 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: of a discretionary dietary component. There is surprisingly a great 259 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 2: deal more to a ministerial portfolio. Don You're missing the 260 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: point completely. One Butt is critical because it's farming. Two, 261 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: it's the finance minister who should understand how the economy works. 262 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: And not only is she the Finance minister and should 263 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: understand how the economy works, she's a finance minister who 264 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: worked at Fontira. Mike, you're giving too much credit to 265 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: the New Zealand public who most people don't even realize 266 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: that ninety nine percent of New Zealand's beef is grasped 267 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: more Light of six twenty. 268 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: Five trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all 269 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: year round. 270 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: He's a finish fact. Comedy films and theaters have become 271 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: a bit of an issue these days. Not a lot 272 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: of comedies actually get to theaters. They go straight to filming, 273 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: to streaming. Happy Gilmore see for example, that turns up 274 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: on Netflix tomorrow. Number of comedies released to theater has 275 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: been going backwards since two thousand and seven. Ten percent 276 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: of market chere last year. So far this year it's 277 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: one point sixty six. So anyway, Liam Neeson Naked Gun 278 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: reboot heading to theaters. So he's put out a message saying, please, please, 279 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: please go to the theater. Seth Rogan, he says me too. 280 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 2: He's got a new movie out. It's called Good Fortune. 281 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: It's about an angel helping two people switch light. 282 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 12: My mem is Guebriel. I'm an angel. I'm here to 283 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 12: see you. What I know all about you? I know 284 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 12: you lost your job, I know you're living in your car. 285 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 13: Why did everything I was supposed to do and nothing's 286 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 13: working out. 287 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: My life is just in the service of people like Orange. 288 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: I'm Jeff a pleasure the people actually get to live. 289 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 12: Maybe I can show you that that life is not 290 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 12: all it's cracked. 291 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: Up to me. 292 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: Now look at you, Jeff's life, It's now your life. 293 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 14: Ye Is there any update on the waywork? 294 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 15: For Cairo? 295 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 12: For Alex he has. 296 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: Your life, Gabriel, Why did you do this? 297 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 12: I tried to show him that wealth wouldn't solve all 298 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 12: his problems, and it seems to have solved most of 299 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 12: his problems. 300 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: See you listen to that, you think, oh, it could 301 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: be fun. But why do you need to go to 302 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: the theater to watch that? Why do you need to 303 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: sit next to some person who choose and probably dribbles 304 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: and talks and the phone goes. Why would you subject 305 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: yourself to that experience when you can do the same 306 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: thing at time Seth Rogan Keanu reeves theaters are October seventeen. 307 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: We've got to report out on this is going to 308 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: be a thing, this homelessness thing, because as you tighten 309 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: up on emergency housing, ask well, where do the people go? 310 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: And the answer might be well, to a street, into 311 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: a car, talk to the minister of Housing about this. 312 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Shortly, setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The 313 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: mic Husking breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, 314 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: commercial and rural. 315 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: News dogs head been. 316 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: Jo McKennis and Italy. She's in port A Fino for 317 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: us this morning. She's just been in a fight in 318 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: a restaurant, so hopefully she sorted that out before she 319 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: gets to wear in a couple of moments. Meantime, back here, 320 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: we've got the much anticipated Homelessness in Sites report, nearly 321 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: five thousand living rough across the country, which is a 322 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: thirty seven percent jump between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three. 323 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: Auckland's up ninety percent, Taranaki's up two hundred and fifty, 324 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: although we'll question that in the moment. Chris Bishop's the 325 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: Housing Minister. Good morning, busy whe us or not? So 326 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: the two hundred and fifty Chris, I mean we've got 327 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: to be careful about a place like Taranaki. I mean 328 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: that could be twelve to thirty two people, couldn't it 329 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: without you. 330 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 16: Know, it could be The numbers bounce around from region 331 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 16: to region, and obviously we're deading with rough so the 332 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 16: count is never going to be accurate, so that the 333 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 16: homelessess Insights report we released yesterday is based on observational 334 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 16: data from groups like the Orkan City Mission, Wellington Downtown 335 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 16: Community Ministry and others. But it's clear that we have 336 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 16: a problem. But this is a long running problem. You know, 337 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 16: New Zealand has had a problem with homelessness for ten 338 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 16: to fifteen years. The numbers increased from twenty thirteen to eighteen, 339 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 16: they increased from twenty eighteen to twenty three and observationally 340 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 16: they're up again in the last couple of years. 341 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: What is your observation around that clarity do you have 342 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: do you can you say anything definitive with these numbers 343 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: or it's just a vibe. 344 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 17: Well, we know that we have a problem with rough sleeping. 345 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 16: The government spends about half a billion dollars a year 346 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 16: on support for people in these situations. That ranges from 347 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 16: emergency housing through to transitional We've got a product called 348 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 16: Housing First which puts people into a home and then 349 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 16: wraps housing support around them and make sure they can 350 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 16: actually stay in the house. We've been running that since 351 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 16: twenty seventeen. That was launched under the English government, continued 352 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 16: under the last government. That program exists today and is 353 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 16: doing good, good, good work in places like Hamilton and Auckland, 354 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 16: for example. But you're dealing with people with often quite 355 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 16: complex challenges, right. Sometimes they've got mental health challenges, Sometimes 356 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 16: they've got addiction challenges. Sometimes they've got trauma in their past, 357 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 16: family violence sometimes as well. So it's important you know 358 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 16: there's one there's no one definition of who becomes homeless 359 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 16: and how there's a range of circumstances. And the question 360 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 16: ready for government is are we making sure that the 361 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 16: support is as effective as possible? And to be honest, 362 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 16: it's not at the moment, which is why we've got 363 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 16: the numbers that we have. So that's why we're taking 364 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 16: a really good lot and saying, rodeo, no one wants 365 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 16: to live in a country in which people sleep rough 366 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 16: on the streets. 367 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 17: How do we get the system responding to that need better? 368 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So having said that, how much of its choice? 369 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: I watched Mitchell and Tapsle wanted down the streets Roderu 370 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: the other day, and they seem to suggest that many 371 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: people actually choose this lifestyle. Is that fair or not? 372 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 16: Well, if you go to MS and walk in and 373 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 16: say I don't have a place to sleep. 374 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 17: I'm sleeping under a bridge. I need help. You will 375 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 17: get help. 376 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 16: There is any number of different things that MSD will do. 377 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 16: They will you potentially end up in emergency housing. You 378 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 16: may potentially be offered a place in a transitional house 379 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 16: with a provider, which is another form of sort of 380 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 16: temporar accommodation. You may be offered a housing first place. 381 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 16: They may work with you to try and work out 382 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 16: exactly why you're living under the bridge, for example. But 383 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 16: you're dealing with again, you're dealing with people who are 384 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 16: a bit distrustful often of the government and of state apparatus, 385 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 16: so getting them to do that is sometimes a challenge. 386 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: Jim, But how much of that? How much is this 387 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: about politics? Because at the end of the day, they're 388 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: going to the opposition, any opposition is going to milk 389 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: this and they're going to go you went hard on 390 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: emergency housing, you went hard on you state housing, and 391 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: look what happens, people end up in cars. This is 392 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: on you. 393 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 16: Well, the opposition demanded we release this report, which we're 394 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 16: always going to do and we've now done, and they 395 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 16: claimed it would show that because we've tightened up on 396 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 16: emergency housing that has led to a rise in homelessness. 397 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 16: That's not what the report shows. By the way, hasn't 398 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 16: stopped them claiming that that's the case. But the report 399 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 16: actually says that it's not possible to work out policy 400 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 16: changes and link that to in a reported rise and 401 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 16: rough sleeping on the streets. 402 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 17: The report doesn't actually say anything that. 403 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 16: They think it shows, and I encourage them to actually 404 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 16: read the report. As I say, this is a long 405 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 16: running issue for New Zealand, and look, if emergency housing 406 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 16: was the answer, might I put it to you like this, 407 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 16: Between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three, as a government, 408 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 16: we spent one point four billion dollars housing people and 409 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 16: motels one point four billion. We pumped billions and billions 410 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 16: and billions of dollars into COMA and other programs, and 411 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 16: homelessness increased. 412 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 17: So it's not the answer. Money is not necessarily the answer. 413 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to make this too political, but I'm 414 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: watching question Time yesterday and I don't know that Ginny 415 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: gave you so many free hits by the end of it. 416 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: Do they not think? Do they not think? Think of 417 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: what they're asking and what you're potentially going to say 418 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: by way of an answer. 419 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 17: Ah, I don't know, but I got to say I did. 420 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 17: I did quite enjoy it. 421 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 16: I mean the sort of delicious bit of it all 422 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 16: is that, you know, a week ago they were going 423 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 16: on about, however, living their jobs and construction. It's not true, 424 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 16: by the way, but they're complaining about it. And then 425 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 16: this way they're asking me, you know, there's not enough 426 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 16: workers to meet the construction pipeline. It's like you can't 427 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 16: have it both ways, no work it out, other people 428 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 16: losing their jobs that there are enough workers. I mean, 429 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 16: it's nuts, and we've got all these projects under why 430 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 16: it's going to be good over the next six months. 431 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 16: You know, I've got a lot of sod turnings. I 432 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 16: have a lot of projects around the country and get 433 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 16: people in work exactly. 434 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: But I appreciate time as always. Chris Boshop, Housing Minister 435 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: with us this morning, if you can be bothered. This 436 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: is what fascinates me about question time is I don't 437 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 2: know what drives the opposition in their thinking, but the 438 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: idea of question time is to elicit a piece of 439 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: information that, in really superficial terms, will allow you to 440 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: look good or score you some political points and all 441 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: Ginny did, And there were three or four of these questions, 442 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: just question after question after question, and Bishop just stood 443 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: up and from laughing like you just did, just embarrassed. 444 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 2: It was the weirdest thing. 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Most major 466 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: oil producing countries don't sell petroleum domestically at full global prices. 467 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 2: This is back to butter. Many subsidized fuel to keep 468 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: their local prices lower, especially in countries where oil revenues 469 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: are a major part of the economy. Now you are 470 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: indeed correct, and then you cite Saudi Arabia, Iran and Venezuela, 471 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: and in that your argument falls apart. And if you 472 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: don't understand that more in a moment fourteen. 473 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: To two International correspondence with ends and eye insurance Feace 474 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business in Portofino. 475 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: Joe McKenna, very good morning to you. 476 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 18: Well, I'd like to think it's a good morning, but 477 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 18: I'm not feeling very happy about. 478 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: This money and I wouldn't like to deal you. I 479 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't like to face you on the bad side. So 480 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: how much was the pastor and the pellegrino? 481 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 18: I just run up for a pasta and a large 482 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 18: bottle of some pellogrino, and they charged me about ninety 483 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 18: New Zealand dollars. 484 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: Tell you what. See the interesting thing about pellegrino. I 485 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: drink pellegrino, and I defend the drinking of palegrino, and 486 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: a lot of people in Italy tell me it's shocking, 487 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: its low rent, it's disgusting, and nobody thinks well of it. 488 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: Is that true or not? Well? 489 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 18: I quite like the taste of it, but it was 490 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 18: really the only thing they offered me. I didn't have 491 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 18: a lot of choices on the menu, exactly. I got 492 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 18: a big surprise with the bill because they gave me 493 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 18: a cover charge and a service charge, and I think 494 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 18: that is illegal, and I have fights about that all 495 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 18: over Italy. 496 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: Did you have a word with them, Joe? 497 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 18: I might have had one or two words, and he 498 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 18: told me I was being offensive. 499 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: Oh okay, speaking of your sort the tourism. I mean, 500 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: this is how this has all come about, isn't it. 501 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: There are so many people going to places like Italy 502 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: in July and August. They can do whatever they want. 503 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 18: Yeah, exactly. We had three cruise ships come to well, 504 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 18: you know, divulge their passengers here in Portafno yesterday. So 505 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 18: the tiny alleys and the air around the beautiful Pausche, 506 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 18: which some of your listeners might have seen, was absolutely 507 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 18: chocolate block and it's not very pleasant at all, especially. 508 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 6: With the heat. 509 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, is the place flooded? Does it look flooded 510 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: at the moment with people? 511 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 18: They go out in the evening, everyone goes back to 512 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 18: their boats or back to their apartments and back to 513 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 18: their cruise ships. So it's quite nice in the evening 514 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 18: and first thing in the morning before the crowds come in. 515 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: What do you reckon? I saw a very good documentary 516 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: on this. It was the Eugene Levy one on Apple 517 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: and he went to somewhere in Italy I think it 518 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: was Venice, and they were complaining that the cruise ships, 519 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: I mean, they turn up, but because they're fed on 520 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 2: the ships, they don't actually spend a lot of money locally. 521 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 18: Is that your observations, Yeah, that was pretty much my impression. Yesterday. 522 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 18: They were floating around grabbing Instagram pictures and then getting 523 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 18: back on the boat or grabbing a piece of pizza 524 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 18: or maybe a gelato. 525 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: Now to the war, of course, we're all exercised about 526 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: the war, and the popes increased political about this, isn't he. 527 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I think everyone got a shock last 528 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 18: week a few days ago, when the only Catholic pattern 529 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 18: in Gaza was struck and people were killed there, the 530 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 18: priest there was injured, and we saw Pope Leo really 531 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 18: rise to the occasion. He's been advocating for peace, but 532 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 18: he's become much more strident, I think since that attack, 533 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 18: and he's been in touch with the Palestinian President Makhmudabas. 534 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 18: He's been speaking to the Prime Minister Benjamin Mattiehu from Israel, 535 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 18: who expressed his regret over that strike. But it's interesting 536 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 18: to see him step up, and also Prime Minister Georgia 537 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 18: Moloney condemned the humanitarian situation in Gaza. She's becoming a 538 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 18: little bit more outspokes well about what's going on there. 539 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: I think we're seeing that internationally at the moment, between 540 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: the Pope's advocacy there and of course his comments around 541 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: Ukraine and you know, you can have my house to 542 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: come and have a chatnel So to see an activist pope. 543 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 18: I don't think i'd describe him as an activist pope. 544 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 18: I was talking to a couple of people the other 545 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 18: day who knew him before he was pope and had 546 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 18: dinner with him, and they said he's very reserved. He's 547 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 18: very careful about what he says. I think he will 548 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 18: be doing it quietly and slowly and with his characteristic reserve. 549 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 6: But it'll be interesting to. 550 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 18: See what sort of role he plays internationally in the future. 551 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: Joe always a pleasure and enjoy port of fine. I 552 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: will see next Thursday. Joe McKenna and Italy this morning, 553 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: speaking of it, I saw a review and I told 554 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: you this yesterday. I I'm a weird person who watches 555 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: reviews of things like hotels. Woman's at the Rosewood Hotel, 556 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: which is a very very nice hotel in London, and 557 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 2: she orders a pie, and to be fair to the Rosewood, 558 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 2: it's a beautifully handcrafted beef pie for lunch. That pie's 559 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: thirty six pounds, so it's seventy five seventy seven dollars 560 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: for a small pie. And that's all there is on 561 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: the plate. There is nothing else on the place, just 562 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: to pie. So she thinks, all given there's only a pie, 563 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: I might order the greens. So she orders the greens 564 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: and they're eight pounds or in other words, in our money, 565 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen dollars. So we're up at about what we're 566 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: up at one hundred bucks for lunch for pie and greens. 567 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: What were the greens? It was cabbage. There was a 568 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: couple of pieces of cabbage for one hundred dollars for lunch, 569 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: and I refuse to pay it. 570 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 14: Is it cabbage green? 571 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 17: Well? 572 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: What look green? Cabbage is green. It's got a green tip. 573 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, one hundred dollars just 574 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: because they can nine away from seven. 575 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast's with the Landrover Discovery News Togsdad be. 576 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: Mike Yesterday and Cambridge, two regular coffees, two bowls of 577 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: soup sixty three sixty I'd go if you made me guess, 578 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: I'd go soup eighteen. It became with a bit of 579 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: breed eighteen nineteen. So what he said thirty six thirty 580 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: eight something like that. Coffee's at five forty six cy. 581 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: That's expensive. But just back to the oil comparison that 582 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: we got Saudi Arabia Iran Venezuela. So Saudi Arabia riches 583 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: all hell they can afford to do it, We can't Iran. 584 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: You honestly want to be like Irandi. It's not really 585 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: a good example, mate in Venezuela has with Venezuela. When 586 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: you start subsidizing stuff, don't make me laugh. There's a 587 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: reason we do what we do five minutes away from seven. 588 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: All the inns and the ouse. It's the fizz with 589 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: business fiber. Take your business productivity to the next I mean, it's. 590 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: Want to be nice for everything was free. Why don't 591 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: we just make everything free? Everything we just said, let's say, 592 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: oh that's a bit expensive and get someone to subsidize it. 593 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you. US housing market June sales are down 594 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: two point seven from May three point nine. Three million 595 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: homes were sold. Analyst suddenly expected to drop of zero 596 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: point seven. So there's a big difference between zero point 597 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: seven and two point seven. The mortgage rates are too high, 598 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: so Trump's right. Jerome's gotta gave the average mortgage rate 599 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: if it were to drop to six percent, about one 600 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand more first home buyers would be 601 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: able to get into the market price wise. Average price 602 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: of a home sold in June was seven hundred and 603 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: twenty two grand, which is a record high twenty fourth 604 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: consecutive month of annual increases. Huge disparity, of course, in 605 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: America between the price of a house. You go to 606 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: North Dacada and see what you pay for a house 607 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: years certainly won't be paying the so many you're paying 608 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: out on the Upper East Side of New York. First 609 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: time buyers represented thirty percent of sales. Now that's higher 610 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: than here twenty seven we think is pretty good, which 611 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: is our standard ish number, but thirty percent in America 612 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: so historically though it's forty percent. So that's a huge 613 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: number of the first time buyers. So that would make 614 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: it seemingly affordable. But once again, the disparity in a 615 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: place like America has to be seen to be believed. Now, 616 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: I do have, speaking of housing, some reasonable news for you. 617 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: Yet again, the rental price in this country has gone 618 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: down now for the first time in years. In years, 619 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: the national average price of rent has gone backwards. So 620 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: that's encouraging if you're a rent part of it's the 621 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: investors are back, so that's the movement in the housing market, 622 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: which is equally good news. Up the thought. And then 623 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: we come to the tourism campaign. Everybody must go don't 624 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: laugh anymore because it worked, and we'll have the numbers 625 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: around that for you in a couple of moments as well. 626 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: An end of all. 627 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 19: Sharan's back for this after eight I Love You bet Enough. 628 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know, 629 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: the MIC hosting Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your 630 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Way News. 631 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: Togs dB welling seven past seven. So the rental market 632 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: continues to trend towards the rent and new numbers out 633 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: this morning shows the national median rental fell as zero 634 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: point three percent. This is three months to May. That's 635 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: the first national drop since two thousand and nine. Mike Atkinson, 636 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: Managing director of Aspire Property Management, is back well this Mike, 637 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: morning to you, Good morning. Has this got something to 638 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: do with the population fewer migrants coming to the country, 639 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: therefore it's the classic supply demand scenario. 640 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 15: I think it is. I think there's sort of three 641 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 15: key drivers behind this, and one of them is obviously 642 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 15: the lack of demand because you know, two years ago, 643 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 15: I think we had a plus one hundred and seventy 644 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 15: five thousand people coming into the country. This year only 645 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 15: plus twenty six so that's a huge drop off. And 646 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 15: then you pat you know, you combine that with we've 647 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 15: got fourteen thousand properties up for rent on trade me 648 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 15: today this time last year only eleven thousand, so you know, 649 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 15: that's a twenty percent increase in the umber of properties. 650 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 15: And at the moment, also tenants, you know, they have 651 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 15: less money to spend on rent a household and comes 652 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 15: rent up one point seven percent last year, but that 653 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 15: was nominal, so not including inflation, which was about four percent. 654 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 15: So your tenant has two point six percent less money 655 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 15: to spend on rent as well. So when you combine 656 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 15: all of those three factors, we are looking at having 657 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 15: our first year with a drop in rents across the 658 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 15: country going all the way back to two thousand. 659 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: What about the other side of the equation, the interest 660 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: rates are coming down, the investor might be a bit 661 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: more active. You buy a house, are they about the 662 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 2: place and therefore they're adding to supply. 663 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 15: Yeah, So, I mean landlords have had a really tough 664 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 15: time recently so while it could be you know, another 665 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 15: three months of paying for landlords, I do see a 666 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 15: bit of light at the end of the tunnel. When 667 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 15: you know, migration is seasonal, so when we head themto summer, 668 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 15: we should see those numbers come up. 669 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: What's your call for the rest of the year. What 670 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen in terms of 671 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: the actual rate? See I look around country. It's about 672 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: six hundred ish, isn't it. With a few variations, about 673 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: six hundred and something dollars will get you a house, 674 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: that's right. 675 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 15: So you know, for landlords, they might be a bit 676 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 15: concerned about seeing that these rent numbers had come down, 677 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 15: but over the last seven years they've gone up fifty percent, 678 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 15: so you know, they're still getting more rent than they 679 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 15: were getting a couple of years ago. My prediction for 680 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 15: the rest of the year is that there is a 681 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 15: bit of a lag in these numbers. We sort of 682 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 15: saw all these drivers lining up as early as sort 683 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 15: of July last year, So I do think that we 684 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 15: could see another quarter with the rents coming down before 685 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 15: they hopefully go back to flat. But I do think 686 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 15: that by the end of the year things could be 687 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 15: in a better place for landlords. 688 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: All right, good and so I might appreciate your time. 689 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: Mike Atkinson, managing director of a spy. It is nine 690 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: minutes past seven, pass speaking in numbers and good news. 691 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: Some made fun of it, but the Everybody must Go 692 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: tourism campaign appears to have hit the mark. The plan 693 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: was to target Australians. We wanted six seven hundred and 694 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: fifty extra arrivals. Did we get them, Yes we did, 695 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: and then some We got seven nine hundred and eighty 696 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: one and while they were here they spend another twenty 697 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: two million dollars. Louise Upston is of course the Tourist 698 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: Minister and is with us very good morning, Good morning Mite. 699 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: So the ad Agency will be happy apart from anyone else, 700 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: won't they. 701 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's great for New Zealand because tourism is a 702 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 4: big part of our plan to grow the economy, and 703 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: we act with urgency and Australia delivered. They came went 704 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: over in great numbers. 705 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Yes they did well. Well when you say great numbers, 706 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: we're a three million plus market annually, so sixty seven 707 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: hundred is hardly shifting the needle. But what sort of 708 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: potential does Australia still have as a market. 709 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what we know is there's Australia is the 710 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: market that is the closest to us, our biggest mark, 711 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 4: and we know they make their decisions quickly. So that's 712 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 4: why we targeted Australia in this first campaign. Listen, we're 713 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 4: still only at eighty seven percent of the visitor numbers 714 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: from what we had pre COVID and that's why Australia 715 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 4: tends to and will continue to be a focus for 716 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 4: us in the short term. Of course, every Australian that 717 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: comes over, stays in our accommodation, eats in a restaurant, 718 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: shops in our shops is great for our economy and 719 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 4: that's why we're so focused on tourism as a growth boost. 720 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: What's your vibe given your experience so far as Minister, 721 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: it's as simple as I mean, it's not like we're 722 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: they don't know we're here. So is it just simply 723 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: just get in front of them and go, hey, remember 724 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 2: New Zealand and something will happen. 725 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 17: Yeah. 726 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: We know that there's four million Australians who are considering 727 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: a visit to New Zealand. We just have to convert them. 728 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: So it's actually being far more in their face and 729 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: putting the material in front of them, putting the deals, 730 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 4: which this Australia campaign was really really positive because there 731 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 4: were over eight hundred deals that New Zealand businesses, airlines, hotels, 732 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: activities put on the table and that was part of 733 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 4: the incentive to get the Australian tourists to say, yes, 734 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: I'm booking now, I'm coming over. 735 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: Can you offer me anything more positive on the biggest 736 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: side of the equation because we're still our notes stuck 737 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: in the eighties in terms of percentage of where we 738 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: once were. 739 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 4: Well, that's why we've just we're very deliberately working on 740 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 4: our big markets, Australia, the States, in China. There's a 741 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: lot of potential in China because the numbers are still 742 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: only at sixty one percent of what we had pre COVID. 743 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 4: So we've got a range of campaigns underway. The Prime 744 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: Minister's visit to China was really important. We just need 745 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 4: those countries to know that New Zealand's open for business 746 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 4: and we actually welcome them. We want them to come, 747 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 4: We're ready for them to come, and they'll have a 748 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: great experience when they're here, and we just need to 749 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: keep repeating that message to them. 750 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Louis preciated at Louis Upston Tourism Minister, thirteen 751 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: minutes past seven. Pascal, was it this time yesterday? I 752 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 2: was trying to explain that one of the things Nicola 753 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: Willis needs to do in national in general is not 754 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time making fools of themselves when 755 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: it comes to things like butter. So this is this 756 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: game that Nicola plays. Nicola goes, have you seen the supermarket? 757 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to get them? Have you seen the banks? 758 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: Don't get stuck in the dark room with the bank. 759 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: So I'm going to get them. I'm going to do something. 760 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: What are you going to do with them, Nicola? Why, 761 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you yet, but I'm going 762 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: to wag my finger a bit more and we're going 763 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 2: to have some more meetings up. I'm going to get them. 764 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: So this was Nickel a pre meeting on the butter. 765 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 20: Miles Hurrel has the opportunity to talk through what goes 766 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 20: into the price of a block of butter, and it's 767 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 20: in his interests to do so. 768 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in his interest to do so. Because I 769 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: got a machine gun in my bag, and if he 770 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: doesn't explain it properly to me, I'm going to gut 771 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: him down. Then she had the meeting, and then this happened. 772 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 20: As has been previously acknowledged, the large proportion of the 773 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 20: price you pay for butter at the supermarket is dictated 774 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 20: by a global demand for butter. 775 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: No, it isn't. Is it global demand for butter? So 776 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: what you're saying is that that Miles wasn't ripping us 777 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: off after all? Is that right, Nicola? 778 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 20: In this case, I've been satisfied that I don't think 779 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 20: consumers are getting a raw deal. 780 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 2: See the problem with that is that it's not Sharon 781 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: from Tayowa Mutu, who has no interest in the economy 782 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: and who left school at the age of fourteen and 783 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: doesn't understand basic economics. That's Nicola Willis, the Finance Minister 784 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: of New Zealand, former employee of Fonterra. 785 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 21: Given all that is the only real explanation that yes, 786 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 21: she knew all that, she knew the answers to the question, 787 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 21: but she didn't think that the greater, wider, unwashed public 788 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 21: of New Zealand would believe her. 789 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: That's the Ryan Bridge argument. 790 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 21: And you're both going through the process to demonstrate. 791 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: Because if you're the finance minister. If you're the finance minister, 792 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: it behooves you to behave in a prime ministerial or 793 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: financer ministerial fashion, not to play dumb games with people 794 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: in New Zealand who may or may not understand simple things. 795 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 2: If we don't understand that as a nation, we make money, 796 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: we earn our living by growing stuff and selling it 797 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: to the world, and that's how it works. If we 798 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 2: don't get that, we have no future. And the Prime Minister, 799 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: if you're right, the finance Minister, shouldn't be playing those 800 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: sort of games. Fifteen past seven The. 801 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: Like Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 802 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: News Talks. 803 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 14: A't be Mike. 804 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: I know Sharon from Tale Muto when she left school 805 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: at fifteen, not fourteen. She didn't do well on economics. 806 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: It's very good Mike's pine continues to replace productive dairy, 807 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: beef and lamb farming in the name of fighting climate change, 808 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: animal products like butter, milk and meat will only get 809 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 2: more expensive. It's a very good point. Peter, thank you 810 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: for about seventeen past seven. A good idea or desperation 811 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 2: as the five hundred new cop promise gets delayed yet again. 812 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: They think now it's going to go out till maybe 813 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 2: August of next year. The new plan is to target Australia. 814 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 2: They of course have been targeting us Chris Carhill's Police 815 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: Association president and as with us, Chris, good morning to you, 816 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. Are we getting a bit hung up 817 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: on numbers? I mean, how many of these five hundred 818 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: do we desperately need writ here right now? Or is 819 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: it more about a political promise. 820 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 22: There's certainly a big element of political promise in it, 821 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 22: and we've got eleven of the five hundreds so fast. 822 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 22: That's actually half far away, so that we need to 823 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 22: just stop talking about dates in the future and just concentrate. 824 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 22: It is desperate in some areas. I some of the 825 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 22: smaller rural places in the East Coast, far North Stars 826 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 22: struggling with numbers big time. 827 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 11: It makes a big impact. 828 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 22: A lot of the gap is in Auckland, so you 829 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 22: can cover it because you've got bigger numbers, but over 830 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 22: time it has a real impact on staffing up there. 831 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 2: We are not going over who would we get out 832 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 2: of Australia given there here? Telling us look at look 833 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: at you know, Malula bar and the sunshine and here's 834 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: some money. But what have we got to offer la 835 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 2: la land ideas? 836 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 22: And now I can see the campaign, I'll come and 837 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 22: enjoy a thirty percent drop of wages, higher house prices, 838 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 22: higher cost of living, lower superinnuation. It's a great one 839 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 22: here and they'll be queuing up. It's just it's just 840 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 22: a silly idea, and police need to start concentrating on 841 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 22: the real issues. I mean, one of the key things 842 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 22: they have to look at as their immuneration structure. You've 843 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 22: got a system where cops take twenty one years to 844 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 22: get the top of the constable's pay band, nurses and 845 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 22: teachers take seven. Look at the things that will make 846 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,479 Speaker 22: a real difference in New. 847 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: Zealand being a policeman. Correct me if I'm wrong, Chris. 848 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 2: But getting recruiting police people is a problem all over 849 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: the world. I mean, it's a crappy old world and 850 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 2: it's hard work. Is that fair? 851 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 22: Yeah, it's definitely fair. 852 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 11: There's multiple reasons. 853 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 22: A couple that stand out seem to be police officers 854 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 22: themselves are not telling family and friends to join. They're 855 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 22: saying the job's chained it's to come too dangerous, has 856 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 22: come to hard and your mental health the other things 857 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 22: to be us just don't see a job that requires 858 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 22: you to work twenty four to seven, seven days a 859 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 22: week as a career choice they're interested in. And that's 860 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 22: a real concern, that's a realishow. I mean, we've got 861 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 22: fifteen percent newth unemployment eighteen to twenty four year olds. 862 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 22: You can't recruit in that environment. What's it going to 863 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 22: look like when the economy picks up? So got to 864 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 22: look at some of the fundamental issues. I think. 865 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 2: Okay, Chris, always good to have you on the program. 866 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: Preciated a Chris Cawnhill, who's the Police Association president. Might 867 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: we produce sixty one hundred percent about dary needs? Surely 868 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: we can discount what we need locally. Mike, fifteen percent 869 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 2: testing on butter the government could stop at immediately. Do 870 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: I do you honestly want me to go through this 871 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: one more time? Do you honestly want me to reliitigate economics? 872 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 2: One O? One one more time? 873 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: Seven The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, 874 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: Power by. 875 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 2: Newstalksb Own News talksb Ed Sheeran. After eight look forward 876 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: to that particular catch up. Meantime. At seven twenty three, 877 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: Government are and trouble. As we've mentioned briefly this morning, 878 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 2: they're in trouble in a couple of areas. As far 879 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: as I can work out, One family boost what they 880 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: said would happen numbers wise didn't. Two the aforementioned police 881 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 2: recruits what they said would happen will not. Three are 882 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: the band on foreign buyers for houses now looks, of 883 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: course farcical. Yesterday's attempt by the Herald to make some 884 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: Winston Peter's comments look like news was a beat up, 885 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 2: of course, because he said the same thing to us 886 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: two months ago, and saying the same thing with nothing 887 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 2: new or any change in between is not news. It's 888 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 2: the status quo. What makes the Peter's stance and therefore 889 00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: the government damage unusual, is Peter's stance is inexplicable. Family boot, 890 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: you see, got messed up because the Ird gave the 891 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: government some poor advice. The police recruit issue, as we've 892 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: just discussed, as bad because being a cop is hard work. 893 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 2: A lot of cops leave and Australia off for sunshine 894 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: and beaches and they're actively making offers. But on the upside, 895 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 2: the Golden visa that's working a treat people with money 896 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 2: have applied. There are hundreds of millions of dollars heading 897 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 2: well heading towards billions of dollars in play, But we 898 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: still want them to when they arrive here in rent 899 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: a house apparently, or go to AIRB and B. The 900 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: level of stupidity in that is inescapable and inexcusable. So 901 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: the Nets had a policy, if you remember, two million 902 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: dollars a house anything over that a foreigner could buy it. 903 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 2: That Peters didn't like. That wasn't having it. Fine, So 904 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 2: the NATS moved that to five or six million. Locals 905 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: here aren't buying those houses. So Peters still won't move, 906 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 2: he says, though he told us the deal's coming. But 907 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 2: the critical question is why would your burn goodwill inside 908 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: a coalition, which is what he's doing, And more importantly, 909 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: why would your risk reputational damage internationally? Remember this is 910 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 2: the same bloke who's holding us to ransom. That's the 911 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 2: same bloke is also on a plane traveling the world 912 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: telling said world we're open, and yet we're not. If 913 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 2: this government is to survive and possibly prosper, it's the 914 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: simple stuff that you cannot afford to make an issue. 915 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: We need money, We need investment in the jobs and 916 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 2: the growth that brings. It must be part of a package, 917 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: and the package comes with a home. Peters gets that. 918 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 2: I know he gets that. And yet small word to 919 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: the Nats, namely Luxon, how about some hardball? How long 920 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 2: do you want to look like the weak guys? I 921 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 2: mean the dog being wagged by the tail. The that's 922 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: biggest problem apart from Peter's, is time, of course, time 923 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: next year the country makes a decision on all of this. 924 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: Cosking Mike, where's the outrage over double digit council rates 925 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 2: rise and electricity rises? All about POxy butter? Who cares 926 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: about butter? Well, a lot of people care about butter. 927 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 2: But you make a very fair point. You don't have 928 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 2: to buy a butter, but you do have to pay 929 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 2: your rates, and so the outrage over rates there is 930 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: nowhere to be seen when we're all exercised about butter. 931 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: Nicola Willis. Mike is increasingly looking like one of those 932 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 2: bosses who makes a lot of noise and threats but 933 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. Thus no one listens to because they're 934 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 2: clearly out of their depth. She's a window bag. I 935 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 2: think that's probably being slightly unfair. But she does, as 936 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 2: I pointed out yesterday, have this predilection towards telling you 937 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: things are broken and wrong and she's going to do 938 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: something about it, and we just don't see they do 939 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: something about it. I mean, how many times is she 940 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: going to threaten the supermarkets before she actually does I've 941 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 2: seen a million times. 942 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 11: Do it. 943 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 2: Whatever it is, you've got, whatever magic trick you've got 944 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: in your handbag, pull it out and do it. I 945 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: don't see what it is. I don't think there is 946 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: a scandal in the banks, and I don't think there's 947 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 2: a scandal in the supermarkets. No, none of us like 948 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 2: paying what we do for butter. But it is what 949 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: it is, and there's a reason behind it. So if 950 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 2: you've got some magic trick on supermarkets and banks, do it, 951 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 2: fix it, sort it, be a hero, solve our problem. Mike. 952 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 2: I think you might be overestimating the intelligence levels of 953 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 2: many New Zealanders around the economy. If they understood how 954 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: it works, they'd never vote labor again. Well that may 955 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: be true, but the point being, if you look at 956 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 2: the poles, and if you take all the polls the opposition, 957 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: if you want to put them together as a grouping, 958 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 2: it's a genuine race. It's a genuine contest. There are 959 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 2: large sways New Zealand, for whatever reason, that support that 960 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 2: style of living and future for our country. And of 961 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 2: these guys, the guys who are currently running it, start 962 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 2: talking about how they're going to fix butter and how 963 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: they're going to fix supermarkets, how they're going to fix banks, 964 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 2: and how are they going to get money into the country, 965 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: and yet none of it seems to materialize. Then they've 966 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: got themselves a political problem. And that problem, as I 967 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: just said, is going to be addressed next year. It's 968 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: called an election. Mark Mitchell, who's the Minister of Sport, 969 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 2: has got some interesting news for us. Right after our News. 970 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts, 971 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover Discovery never 972 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: Stop discovering News. 973 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 3: Togs headv. 974 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 2: Mike. We're disappointed that you seem to be a strong 975 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: labor supporter, always putting the government down. Mike. Please check 976 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 2: what's happening at Molesworth's station. The manager quit after twenty 977 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: three years. Yes, what's happening in Moldsworth's station is that 978 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 2: there's some concern over wilding pine. There was some money 979 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 2: coming from the government into the station for wilding pine. 980 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: That money's dried up. He's quit. That's about all we 981 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 2: know at this particular point in time, isn't it. There 982 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 2: were some concerns as to what the government may well 983 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: do with the land. Are they doing more pine, less stock? 984 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: But that's about where we are at the moment, as 985 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,959 Speaker 2: far as I can work out. Twenty three minutes away 986 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 2: from mate A mataa sure enough to right I meantime, 987 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: and what increasingly looks like a global change of Heartsport 988 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 2: New Zealand has been told to scrap its transgender inclusion guidelines. Previously, 989 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: trans people could take part in community sports the gender 990 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 2: they identified with. The change hands control back to individual sports. Now, 991 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell these days as Minister of Sport, of course 992 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 2: news whether it's make morning to you, Hey, good morning, Mike. 993 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 2: You took this from bishop of course at once upon? 994 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 2: How angsty is this whole issue in this portfolio generally? 995 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 23: Oh, there's always this, quite a bit of discussion and 996 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 23: the sort of happens around it. But look, I think 997 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 23: that generally speaking, most fair minded Kiwis would say that 998 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 23: when it comes to sport, it so they should. The 999 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 23: basic tenant around it should be safety and fairness. 1000 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 2: Are you arguing that or are you arguing that because 1001 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: New Zealand first told you to argue that? 1002 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 23: No. No, I personally believe that I've played sport my 1003 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 23: whole life, and I think that safety and fairness the 1004 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 23: two guiding principles that any sport or code should follow. 1005 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 23: But we've decided as part of the coalition agreement with 1006 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 23: New Zealand, first that you know that the government is 1007 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 23: not going to dictate to the codes what they should 1008 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 23: be doing. The codes and the sporting bodies themselves they 1009 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 23: know best, They know how to run their sports fairly 1010 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 23: and safely, and so they can make those decisions in 1011 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 23: consultation with their own communities, in their own members. 1012 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 2: That leaves the possibility of some rogue sports doing rogue 1013 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 2: things in a lot of community angst. If that unfolds, 1014 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 2: is that they're a problem no longer yours. 1015 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 23: No sporting sets well any sporting bodies that are funded 1016 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 23: by the New Zealand tax bar. Sporting in Z has 1017 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 23: a responsibility to monitor and make sure that those that 1018 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 23: those sports and those codes are actually being run properly. 1019 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 23: So no, there'll still be government oversight on any sporting 1020 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 23: body or organization that receives text has money. 1021 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 2: Right, Why doesn't this go all the way to elite sport? 1022 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 2: Why is it stuck at community? 1023 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 23: Well, it's right across sport, but we've just decided that government. 1024 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 23: Well it relates to codes and sports. So codes and 1025 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 23: sports have got both ground you know, grassroots sports and 1026 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 23: they've got elite sports people as well, So it doesn't 1027 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 23: differentiate it. It relates to all codes and sports. 1028 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: Do Sports New Zealand accept this willingly or do they 1029 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 2: do it begrudgingly? 1030 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 23: No, they accepted it very willingly. They're a great organization 1031 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 23: that are focused on making sure that we can deliver 1032 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 23: and maximize every text parer dollar in terms of participation 1033 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 23: in supporting sport in New Zealand. We're a proud sporting 1034 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 23: nation and both sport is in zed and higher formance 1035 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 23: sports do an outstanding job. 1036 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 2: Put your cop hat on this five hundred delay Yet again, 1037 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: how ugly politically do you think it's going to get 1038 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 2: for you? 1039 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 23: Look, I totally get it, but the fact of the 1040 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 23: matter is is that we is that we always said 1041 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 23: that it was going to be tough. We haven't backed 1042 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 23: away for the fact that we're working as hard as 1043 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 23: we care. The police are working as hard as they 1044 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 23: can to deliver on those five hundred. But of course 1045 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 23: what we did uncover is that there had been a 1046 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 23: move away from consistency around standards, and we've prioritized standards 1047 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 23: and said that in a service like police, standards really 1048 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 23: do matter. 1049 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 2: Fair enough to where are you going to? 1050 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 23: I'm heading back up to Aalkland. Sorry about that, I'm 1051 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 23: sitting in the in the airport. 1052 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 2: Just a word. It's interested to know where you're where 1053 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:40,959 Speaker 2: you're heading. 1054 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 23: I'm hitting from to Aukland today. 1055 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: Could only mate well, Mark mitchellt Minister of Sport, nineteen 1056 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 2: minutes away from seven past getting hey, Mike, you see 1057 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 2: Tossy Gabbett overnight? Funnily enough, I did I see Obama? 1058 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: Mike and Hillary Clinton are in a lot of trouble. 1059 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 2: No they're not, Nobe not in a lot of trouble. 1060 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 2: Don't get exercise about stuff you don't need to get 1061 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 2: exercised about. Speaking of which, perfect story. Un Overnight there 1062 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 2: was much made places like radio and New Zealand love 1063 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 2: these stories. They were anticipating something, some earth shattering this morning, 1064 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 2: and it came. I suppose the International Court of Justice 1065 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 2: their long awaited advisory opinion. The key word there is 1066 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 2: opinion on the nation's climate obligations. Failure of the state 1067 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 2: to take appropriate action to protect the climate system from CGHG, 1068 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: which is greenhouse gas, may constitute an internationally wrongful act 1069 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 2: which is attributable to that state. What they're doing here 1070 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 2: is Pacific nations got together dreamed up the idea that 1071 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 2: they could go to a UN court and get them 1072 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: to make a decision that would mean that countries are 1073 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 2: liable for their emissions. And therefore, if as a human 1074 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 2: being you had been harmed by those said omissions, you 1075 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 2: could somehow take them to another court and somehow that 1076 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: court would do something that would mean a government would 1077 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 2: end up I don't know, God knows anyway. A clean 1078 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: and healthy, sustainable environment's human right. I probably all agree 1079 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 2: with that countries harmed by climate change could also be 1080 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 2: entitled to reparations, but what their oad must be decided 1081 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 2: on a case by case basis. So as usual, the 1082 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 2: only one is out of that lawyer is eighteen to. 1083 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: Two The Vike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio 1084 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks. 1085 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 2: At be couple of things you might want to read today. 1086 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 2: Very good piece by Kate McNamara in The Herald about 1087 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 2: the cost how they shaved the cost of the wycat 1088 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 2: Her Medical School down. There was a moderate amount of 1089 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 2: debate on the announcement day that Act might have played 1090 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 2: a role in actually doing something good by way of savings, 1091 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 2: and so it's well worth reading around the background. So 1092 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,720 Speaker 2: the University of Wykata's original budget, she writes, for building 1093 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 2: the school, appears to have been well padded. More important, essentially, 1094 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: none of the university's contribution was originally earmarked for capital cost. 1095 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,879 Speaker 2: So makes the point and this is where it sort 1096 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 2: of endorses the Act theory that it was Act that 1097 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: actually saved us all some money. They did some consulting. 1098 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what the name of the company is. 1099 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: It's Sapia, SAPII, Sapary, whatever it was. They got some 1100 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 2: consultants in know how to look at it. As a 1101 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 2: result of that, significant change followed, And she writes the 1102 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 2: Act party, either more directly or through this insistence in 1103 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 2: its coalition agreement with the National Party that the wheat 1104 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 2: Her plan be subject to a full cost benefit analysis. 1105 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 2: Seems to have played an important role. So, in other words, 1106 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 2: they've done the good work on our behalf. She writes this, 1107 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 2: and I think this is interesting, and it's sort of 1108 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 2: dubtails into what I was saying about willis earlier on 1109 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 2: in the National Party in general. Whether National alone would 1110 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 2: have pursued such a rigorous process as an open question. Now, 1111 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 2: the possibly more interesting story this morning that you also 1112 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 2: want to read is by Ian Proudfort. Shall we get 1113 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 2: him on tomorrow, Sammy, I think we should. He's from 1114 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 2: KPMG and he's read he writes, an AGRO report him. 1115 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: He's been doing it for years as far as I know. 1116 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: It's always interesting and you know my obsession with the 1117 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 2: land in the country and all that sort of stuff. Farmers, 1118 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 2: he writes, Now this is the controversial bit. I think 1119 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 2: he's wrong, but nevertheless, let's get him on and see 1120 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 2: if he can make a fool of me. Farmers could 1121 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 2: opt into a voluntary domestic pricing initiative through their milk 1122 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 2: processes with a portion of their production price to meet 1123 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 2: Kiwi's needs for healthy and nutritional food. At a reasonable crops. 1124 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 2: So what he's doing is arguing on many of you 1125 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 2: who have texted me, going, well, why don't we cut 1126 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: the GST? Why doesn't somebody pay the difference? This is 1127 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: what he's arguing. He's on your site. Food security, he argues, 1128 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 2: is still under prioritize among the two hundred agribusiness leaders 1129 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 2: that he deals with. Food security is national security, which 1130 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 2: is true. Food security is national security. It's an important 1131 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 2: point whether farmers would support a domestic price Internationally. Initiatives 1132 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: haven't stopped because they didn't get one hundred percent support. Well, 1133 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 2: I can tell you for nothing, they're not going to 1134 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 2: get one hundred percent support. But that's a fairly loaded comment, 1135 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 2: isn't it. What if they only got ten percent support? 1136 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 2: Do we go ahead with the scheme anyway? Do we 1137 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 2: infuriate the farmers of this country. It's time he argues, 1138 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: that New Zealand started having the sort of conversation the 1139 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 2: rest of the world's been having for a number of 1140 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 2: years about bio energy and bioeconomies. Oversees agribusiness leaders talk 1141 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 2: about the threeps, food, fiber and fuel. Why we only 1142 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 2: are able to talk about food and fiber, not the 1143 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 2: fuel part of the equation. He's asking. When I sit 1144 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 2: down with clients all over the world, so often the 1145 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: conversation hasn't started with how much butter has been exported 1146 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 2: or what countries they're exporting too, but very often it's 1147 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 2: what the farmer is doing with farmer and grower partners 1148 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 2: in connecting them up to energy. So he's arguing, we 1149 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 2: need to be a bit more sophisticated than we are. 1150 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: If he's right, then I'm wrong. And if I'm wrong, 1151 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a blood eye and I'm just 1152 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 2: not as visionary as him. But we might get him 1153 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 2: on the program and see how we go, which does 1154 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 2: lead me to and I don't have time now, I'll 1155 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: do it later, to a spectacular piece I read yesterday 1156 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 2: from a group of people who went to Holland, and 1157 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 2: they learn profound lessons as to how Holland views their 1158 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 2: world and how they conduct themselves economically and politically, and 1159 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 2: why they are so much more advanced than we are. 1160 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 2: And because of that attitude, we're basically bugget. Because the 1161 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 2: end of the artic guy argues, unless we do what 1162 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 2: they do, we're going nowhere fast. And it also argues 1163 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 2: that we're probably not capable of doing what they are, 1164 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,439 Speaker 2: so we are heading nowhere fast, but more on that later. 1165 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 2: Tend to wait the asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate. 1166 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,439 Speaker 3: Newstalgs dead be those. 1167 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 2: Seven away from it. Among the ever growing series of 1168 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 2: financial issues we need to worry about banks and warning 1169 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 2: now over subscription traps, businesses hooking people into ongoing payments 1170 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 2: through every day items the shoes and clothes, stuff like that. Anyway, 1171 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 2: Westpac so it stopped nearly twenty thousand customers being fleeced 1172 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 2: in the past three months. Doctor Clare Matthew's banking expert 1173 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 2: of course at Massy in his back. Well this clear 1174 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 2: good morning to you more end am I you ever 1175 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,280 Speaker 2: fallen for a scam? You ever been scammed? 1176 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 13: Not in New Zealand, only on national travel. But that's 1177 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 13: a slightly different situation. 1178 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, these these were. If west Pack, a 1179 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 2: singular bank, can stop twenty thousand customers over a three 1180 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 2: month period, how many people are getting done for you know, 1181 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 2: must be tens of thousands, hundred of thousands of people. 1182 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 13: Oh, absolutely, it must be huge numbers. It seems unlikely 1183 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 13: that West Westpac customers are being singled out, so presumably 1184 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 13: it's tappening to other banks customers as well. Absolutely, And 1185 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 13: I noticed that as well as the twenty thousand customers 1186 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 13: that they talked about, they talked about twenty five million 1187 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 13: dollars worth of payments, so that's you know, we are 1188 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:32,959 Speaker 13: talking large sums of money. 1189 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 2: So what is it? Is it payments you know you're 1190 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: making but don't know how to stop, or payments you 1191 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 2: don't know how you're making. Is it a trap or 1192 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 2: is it? Is it illegal? 1193 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 13: It's a little bit hard to know because it's a 1194 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,720 Speaker 13: lot of something I've come across before, but I'm guessing 1195 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 13: it's something like, you buy a pair of shoes and 1196 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 13: in the Fine Presencies, at the same time, when you 1197 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 13: buy a pair of shoes, you also become a member 1198 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 13: of our site, and we're going to charge you a 1199 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 13: it's possibly a small subscription fee, and that will give 1200 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 13: you access to we'll see your emails, or you'll have 1201 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 13: access to our bargains, so that and special prices in 1202 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 13: the future. But you don't actually want to do that. 1203 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 13: You just brought up your shoes or whatever it is 1204 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,919 Speaker 13: you've bought. You didn't actually plan to ever buy anything else. 1205 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 13: From this business again. But they've sucked you in because 1206 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 13: it's in the terms and conditions, and all of a 1207 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 13: sudden you've got this small payment going out, which you 1208 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 13: may not notice immediately, depending on what else you're using 1209 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 13: card for. But west Tek have obviously found a way 1210 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 13: of picking up when this has happened. 1211 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 2: Good isn't there an app for that? I saw something 1212 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 2: the other day. There's an app that tells you all 1213 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: the stuff you're paying for that you may not know, 1214 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 2: then goes ding. Do you realize, here's all the you 1215 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 2: know and it'll tell you what you're doing. 1216 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 13: Yeah, But the problem with these ones, from what I 1217 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 13: can understand from what west Tak has said, is that 1218 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 13: it's all very well to know that you don't want 1219 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 13: to pay it, but you've actually got to get out 1220 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 13: of it. And what's happening is trying to get hold 1221 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 13: of the companies to say, actually cancel my subscription. The 1222 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 13: companies disappear or they just say, oh, notes legitimate, So 1223 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 13: it get's actually really difficult to cancel. So it's easier 1224 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 13: to stop the payment upfront. 1225 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 2: Is it easy to let the bank do this if 1226 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 2: they're in the business of doing this, Good on them? 1227 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 2: For doing it fantastic or I mean, I just don't 1228 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 2: know how we fix it if you can't get out 1229 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 2: of it, or you don't know you even paying it 1230 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 2: in the first place. How do we solve this particular problem. 1231 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 13: Well, one of the issues is that we do need 1232 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 13: to read the fine print instrument and sign up for things, 1233 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 13: which we're all very bad at doing. Yes, you can 1234 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 13: trust the banks to be dealing with us to an extent, 1235 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 13: but they're not going to pick up everything because what 1236 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,479 Speaker 13: the scammers are doing is constantly changing. So we do 1237 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 13: need to be observant and looking at our transactions and 1238 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 13: looking for anything that's unusual because we may be the 1239 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 13: first or one of the first to find something new 1240 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 13: so that it will help others. 1241 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to you. Claire is always 1242 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 2: Claire Matthews, Doctor Claire Matthews, Messy University, Rocket Money, Glenn 1243 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 2: tells me is one of them that will be meaning 1244 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 2: there's a millionaires. 1245 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 14: Do you still have a Neon subscription as well as your. 1246 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 2: Skyll I was watching a bit of Neon yesterday. Finallyina, 1247 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 2: so why do you do that? 1248 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 14: Why do you have me on as well as sky? 1249 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,479 Speaker 2: Now I had an answer for that, and I can't 1250 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 2: remember what it was, but when I came up with 1251 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: the answer, it was something about express I get it 1252 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 2: earlier on Neon, you'll get it earlier than on Sky, 1253 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 2: I think was the answer. Here's here's a confession, and 1254 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 2: just like that, you know the program, And just like that, 1255 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 2: I actually like it. This is the sequel to the 1256 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 2: sequel and the City. I actually like it. I've been 1257 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 2: watching it and I developed a passion for it, and 1258 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 2: I thought, this is actually I mean, there's a lot 1259 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 2: of it that's shocking, but I thought as I watched, 1260 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 2: I thought, this is actually quite a good program. And 1261 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,439 Speaker 2: then I thought to myself, I wonder if I should 1262 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 2: say that publicly, and what people will think of me 1263 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 2: if I did. 1264 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 14: We're about to find out. I guess it's all. 1265 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 2: Too late now, ed Sharon back on the program. 1266 00:59:45,080 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: After the newspaper, the news and the newsmakers, the mi 1267 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: casking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential, 1268 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks d B seven. 1269 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 2: So we got the Sheeran news yesterday. He's coming to 1270 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 2: a stadium near you in the early part of next year. 1271 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 2: If you follow him A couple of interesting things. Actually 1272 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 2: has turned with James Blunt the other night in Ipswich. 1273 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 2: That's well worth looking up today. He's also involved in 1274 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 2: a very cool project with Chris Hinsworth for his Disney 1275 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 2: show called Limitless. So there's a lot to talk about. 1276 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 2: So we got together with the cheerin on Tuesday night. 1277 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,919 Speaker 2: What what's that for? This is on video as well. 1278 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 2: What's that stick in the background? I mean, what's that? 1279 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Does that look? It can't be Lola Cross? 1280 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 19: Oh no, that's a yeah, I know that is from 1281 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 19: c Croake Park and it's a hurling stick. 1282 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 6: Or a camogie stick. I'm not No, it's hurling. 1283 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 11: So in. 1284 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 19: Islands there's of any called Croake Park. It doesn't have 1285 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 19: British sports ever played in it and it's always either 1286 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 19: has Gaelic football or hurling. And I played Croak part 1287 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 19: that's from twenty to fifteen, my first time playing Croke 1288 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 19: and they gave me a hurling stick. 1289 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 2: So do you collect stuff generally? Yeah? 1290 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 19: I think I'm a hoarder. I think I'm a hoarder 1291 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 19: which I have a This is a pub in London, 1292 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 19: but the pub that I have in my garden is 1293 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 19: where everything goes and it very much looks like a hoarder's. 1294 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 2: Pub, right. I need to be brought up to speed here, 1295 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 2: because I've been trying hard. I'm working on this, but 1296 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm watching you one at pubs. You're at pubs singing, 1297 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 2: You're in America. Then I see you in Ipswich the 1298 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 2: other day. I check your schedule. You're going into Scandinavia. 1299 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 2: What exactly are you doing at the moment. 1300 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 19: At the moment, I'm sort of I'm on tour. I'm 1301 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 19: finishing the Mathematics tour but also promoting the Play album. 1302 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 19: And one of the songs on Play is called the 1303 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 19: Old Phone. So we build an Old Phone pub where 1304 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 19: we go and we do these small acoustic shows instant 1305 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 19: in amongst the tour, and they're fun. It's sort of 1306 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 19: like a different it's a different thing. It's still it's 1307 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 19: still a performance. You still get a buzz, but it's 1308 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 19: just a different It's not a stadium. 1309 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 6: It's just a different kind of performance. 1310 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Who comes up with all that stuff? 1311 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 12: Uh? 1312 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 6: Me? Me? 1313 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 19: I think the older that I'm getting, the more I 1314 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 19: want diversity and the stuff that I'm doing. I think 1315 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 19: playing a sold out stadium every weekend is obviously super fun, 1316 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 19: but it's like having. 1317 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 6: A really great steak every meal. You want. 1318 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 19: You want a bit of difference, you can't. You want 1319 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 19: a dirty burger every now and then you want some 1320 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 19: kebab chips every now. You know, you want a balanced 1321 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 19: career of doing balanced things. 1322 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 2: I think so artistically answer me this because I mean, 1323 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 2: be honest with me. How big is your group these days? 1324 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 2: I mean how big is your organization? Because you don't 1325 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 2: just say, look, let's let's build a part and a 1326 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 2: couple of other people in the room go, oh cool it, 1327 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 2: let's do that, because that's not how this works. 1328 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 19: Yeah, I'd say in total, on our side of the organization, 1329 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,959 Speaker 19: including tour, there's probably about two hundred people that work 1330 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 19: within the camp, and that's not including record label. I'd say, 1331 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 19: you know, it's a it's a big it's a big operation, 1332 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 19: but then it's a it's a big tour, and it's 1333 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 19: they're big albums, and I think that they it's definitely grown. 1334 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 19: It used to just be me and my manager and 1335 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 19: we would plug into local record labels wherever we go. 1336 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 19: But I think even now more so, record label's role 1337 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 19: has shifted so much, so you kind of have to 1338 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 19: have like we have each specific people on the team. 1339 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 19: Be it press, but it international, be it social, be 1340 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 19: at this, b at that. So it's yeah, it's a 1341 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 19: big it's a big operation, but I think it's it 1342 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 19: becomes Now I have children and a family, I can 1343 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 19: then plug in and out of it a lot more 1344 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 19: than I used to because lots of people are making 1345 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 19: it move, so I can sort of going it out. 1346 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 2: So is this the most enjoyable time of your career 1347 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 2: so far? Giving you achieved this level of success, I mean, 1348 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 2: basically you can creatively do anything you want. 1349 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 19: I'd say that, yeah, Well, it depends on what sort 1350 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 19: of level of enjoyment. Like I definitely love I love 1351 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 19: having a family and having the balance of that and 1352 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 19: dipping in and out of work and yes, as you said, 1353 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 19: creatively being like I'm going to do this show or 1354 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 19: this show or this show. I think the most enjoyable 1355 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 19: part of my career though, was the first two years 1356 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 19: of plus and everything was new and everything was exciting, 1357 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 19: and I'd gone from playing to nobody and no one 1358 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 19: being interested to suddenly like coming to New Zealand for 1359 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 19: the first time, coming to Australia, going to Japan and 1360 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 19: going to America instead of having the world open up 1361 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 19: for me. I think that was probably the most exciting 1362 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 19: and enjoyable part of my career. But I think now 1363 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 19: it's about finding the balance and not going nuts and 1364 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 19: not being. 1365 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 6: Like I am just a pop star and that is 1366 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 6: all that I am. 1367 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 19: I think it's really nice to be a dad and 1368 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,920 Speaker 19: also be a pop star and have a balance of 1369 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 19: the two. 1370 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 2: Do you reckon that's an adherent skill? What do you 1371 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 2: run the rest? Potentially? Do you think of getting a 1372 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 2: bit jaded at some point? 1373 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 19: I think I think you only get jaded if you 1374 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 19: live within a bubble and you think that. I think 1375 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 19: you get jaded when things start getting very self centered 1376 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 19: and you think like, oh, this is happening to me, 1377 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 19: and this is this, and this is that, and it's. 1378 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 6: Very me, me, me, me me, And I think that. 1379 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 19: By having it's not even having the big team, it's 1380 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 19: more like being in the world. 1381 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 6: Like I still like my wife will still like not 1382 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 6: make me makes me the. 1383 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 19: Wrong wrong word, strongly encourage me to take public transport 1384 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 19: and do normal things and go to pubs and blah 1385 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 19: blah blah and just be out in the world and 1386 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 19: I think it's I think it's difficult to get jaded 1387 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 19: when you are in amongst so many other people's lives 1388 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,439 Speaker 19: and seeing how they work, and realizing how fortunate being 1389 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 19: a musician, and also being a musician where people actually 1390 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 19: want to come to the shows. And so I do 1391 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 19: remember playing shows where no one wants to come to 1392 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 19: them and releasing music that fell on deaf is. So 1393 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 19: I feel like super grateful to be you know, people 1394 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 19: are still interested in my music because people are still 1395 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 19: coming to the shows, and I get to pick and 1396 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 19: choose my schedule. So I'm I don't think you can 1397 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 19: get jaded with that. I think that's just a really 1398 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 19: privileged position to be in. 1399 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 2: And what about the pressure, because I mean, do you 1400 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 2: feel that each time you announce a big tour, a 1401 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 2: stadium tour. I mean, it's wonderful to perform in a pub. 1402 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Who doesn't love a pub, But a stadium tour that's business. 1403 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 2: I mean, do you feel the pressure of that. What 1404 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 2: it looks like, what it sounds like. What's the comparison 1405 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 2: to last time? Because I paid my three hundred dollars 1406 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 2: and I'm paying another three hundred dollars and you're bit 1407 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 2: to be good. I mean, do you feel that? 1408 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 6: Yeah? But I think that the more I release, the 1409 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 6: stronger the set listers. 1410 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 19: And I have a lot of faith in people's emotions 1411 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 19: and memories and things that are attached to these songs, 1412 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 19: and I think that I know I can create special 1413 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 19: moments when I come to these shows with people coming 1414 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 19: and they want to hear a certain song in a 1415 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 19: certain way. And I think that the artists that play 1416 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 19: these big stadiums know that that. 1417 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 6: Is the that's the currency of the gig. 1418 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 19: You someone comes to the gig, you play the song 1419 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 19: that they want to play in the way that they 1420 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 19: want to play it, and. 1421 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 6: It makes them take. 1422 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 19: Like I if I go and see Coldplay Coplay are 1423 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 19: like one of my favorite bands. If I go and 1424 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 19: see them and they don't play fix. 1425 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 6: You, I'm annoyed. 1426 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 19: But I know, because of the way that Chris is 1427 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 19: and the way that those shows are, that fix You 1428 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 19: is going to get played. It's going to be amazing. 1429 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 19: It's going to do exactly what I wanted to do 1430 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 19: within me and within my heart. So I think that, yeah, 1431 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 19: I think that when you're doing these shows, it's an 1432 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 19: understanding that it's not about me. It's about the It's 1433 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 19: about the community and about the the couples that are 1434 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 19: coming to the gig, the friends that are coming to 1435 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:54,919 Speaker 19: the gig, the families that are coming to the gig, 1436 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 19: and what the songs mean to them and how you 1437 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,080 Speaker 19: can facilitate their. 1438 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 6: Good time and emotions. I guess. 1439 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 2: So he mentioned Chris Martin, of course, so you know 1440 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 2: where I need to go after the break fifteen past eight. 1441 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast. 1442 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 3: On iHeart Radio powered by News Talks. 1443 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 2: It be new Talks. It'll be seventeen past eight. So 1444 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 2: the id Sheeran interview which I did the other night. 1445 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 2: He mentioned before the break, of course, Chris Martin, which 1446 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 2: you know where I'm having to go there. But before 1447 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 2: I got on to that, I remembered I'd watched a 1448 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 2: very good video He was a nipswitch the other night, 1449 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 2: and he had James Blunt on stage, which seemed to 1450 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 2: be a real thing. So I wanted to know from 1451 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,560 Speaker 2: him whether or not this is something he does. He 1452 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 2: just rings people up and they come running. 1453 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say they come running. I think it always 1454 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 6: has to be a. 1455 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 19: Good idea, and I think with James was on tour 1456 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,719 Speaker 19: and I said, look, I'm doing my hometown stadium apswich 1457 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 19: Town Portman Road. The first time I saw James was 1458 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 19: there when I was thirteen, opening up Fell and John 1459 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 19: and that was one of his first gigs. And I said, 1460 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 19: wouldn't it be cool full circle moment you come, we 1461 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 19: sing Goodbye My Lover together, which is one of my 1462 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 19: favorite James songs. And I think it has to be special. 1463 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 19: It has to be a moment rather than just you 1464 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 19: do it for the. 1465 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 6: Sake of it. 1466 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:09,799 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it looks special. 1467 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 6: It was special. I was emotional at that. 1468 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,760 Speaker 19: You know that James is one of the reasons that 1469 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 19: I'm a singer songwriter and to bring him to essentially 1470 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 19: my homecoming show, which was something that was special to 1471 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 19: him twenty one years ago. 1472 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, it felt really really great. 1473 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 2: Like kiss Cam. Yeah, do you run it? You've got 1474 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 2: a jumbo tron. 1475 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:30,719 Speaker 6: We've never done it, but there. 1476 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 19: You know, I think that all shows are different, Like 1477 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 19: my show is very different to the Guns and the 1478 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,760 Speaker 19: Show and the Coldplay Show and the Taylor Show. And 1479 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 19: I think that that's what makes stadium shows great. And yeah, it's. 1480 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 6: That's been part of their show since the beginning. It's 1481 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:48,720 Speaker 6: just now. 1482 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 19: It is obviously international news for you know, something that 1483 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 19: I feel like lots lots of people go through and 1484 01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 19: I wouldn't say it's any like, I don't know, I 1485 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 19: don't know. 1486 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean, let's be honest. I mean 1487 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,760 Speaker 2: I feel bad for them. I feel really bad for them. 1488 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 2: I almost think it's an invasion of privacy. I mean, 1489 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 2: I know you're at a show, and I get all 1490 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 2: of that, but at some point, destroying somebody's life, you know, 1491 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta feel about you gotta feel bad 1492 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,680 Speaker 2: about that, don't you. 1493 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely. I don't like the way that it's unfolding. 1494 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 19: And I think everyone just has to remember that there's 1495 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:30,560 Speaker 19: like children involved in families and yeah. 1496 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 2: Exactly listen. I got to know because it doesn't come 1497 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 2: out until August. But was Chris Him's worth any good 1498 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:36,839 Speaker 2: on the drums? 1499 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 17: It was great. 1500 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 6: It was really really good. 1501 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1502 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 19: And the first time I saw him play drums, I 1503 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 19: was like, I don't know if this is going to 1504 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,760 Speaker 19: work out Trump rhythms. You can't really rhythm. It has 1505 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 19: to sort of be within within you. And he learned 1506 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 19: it and it was it was great. I was really 1507 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 19: really impressed with him, and I hope I hope he 1508 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 19: carries it on because I think music is really good 1509 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 19: for the soul and I think he realized that and 1510 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 19: enjoyed it. But yeah, we had a great time. I 1511 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 19: really like that guy. 1512 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 8: Man. 1513 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 19: He's like they're in the entertainment industry, you know, you 1514 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 19: meet people all the time and. 1515 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 6: They're all right, and you meet. 1516 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 19: Sometimes you meet people who you like, really bond with 1517 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 19: as humans, and James Blunt is someone like that who 1518 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,680 Speaker 19: I genuinely like as a human being, like, regardless of 1519 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 19: career and songs. I just like spending time with him. 1520 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 19: And Chris is very much like that. And I'm grateful 1521 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 19: to when we did all that stuff and he came 1522 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 19: Suffolk to learn the drums and stuff. Now I he 1523 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 19: got to hang out with I've hung out with his 1524 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 19: family before, He's hung out with my family, and I 1525 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 19: feel like that's almost more important than just doing something 1526 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 19: cool for the Discovery Channel, you know, actually having having 1527 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 19: a bond with the human being that works within the 1528 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 19: same space that you did. 1529 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 11: Well. 1530 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 2: A lot of people like hanging with you as well, 1531 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 2: and that will be happening and next year when you 1532 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 2: come here for your big stary so it's a thrill 1533 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 2: as always to catch up with you. Go, well, appreciate it. 1534 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,599 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll catch up when you're here in twenty six. 1535 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,560 Speaker 6: Thank you man, nice one. 1536 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 2: So there he was, Sharan. By the way, Limitless is 1537 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 2: the program, the Hemsworth Program, and I'm almost certain it's Disney. 1538 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,679 Speaker 2: It's National Geographic, but it's through Disney and that comes 1539 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 2: out in the middle of next month, eight twenty one. 1540 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News 1541 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:26,640 Speaker 1: Togstead be. 1542 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Now we've mentioned Autonomy Health for a couple of months 1543 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 2: now and they're basically the reason they're so good is 1544 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 2: they're changing lives literally. So Autonomy is New Zealand's leading 1545 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 2: personal health transformation clinic. 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Look it 1563 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 2: up and get educated autonomy dot health, aut nomy, autonomy 1564 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 2: dot health, and start your early wins to day oscy 1565 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 2: like I agree with the comments regarding kiscam. The other 1566 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: thing is, as the public, we don't know where the 1567 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: relationship was at. They could have been in the process 1568 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 2: of separating yards and children to somewhere the other day. 1569 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 2: Apparently both those people were ad separated from their parts, 1570 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 2: and so you know, we don't know where we go, 1571 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 2: but it doesn't stop us turning it into one of 1572 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 2: the biggest stories of the world. Mike, my daughter was 1573 01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 2: an a pub in Cambridge in twenty eleven. That was 1574 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,120 Speaker 2: a young redhead Chap sitting in the corner playing as 1575 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 2: Guitarsh emailed me that night tunes out it was I shure, Mike, 1576 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 2: I love so just like that back in the day, 1577 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 2: but even I find it difficult to watch. It's so cringe. 1578 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 2: I hang in there for the fashion and the shots 1579 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 2: of New York and that's exactly what I've decided. What 1580 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 2: that program is is a love letter to New York. 1581 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 2: And because New York's one of my favorite cities in 1582 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 2: the world. I love people that love their city, and 1583 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,880 Speaker 2: so it's a love letter to New York. It is 1584 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 2: also a love letter to fashion and the fashion and there. 1585 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,160 Speaker 2: The styling on that program is next level. And also 1586 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 2: Sarah Jessica Parker, who's been on this program a number 1587 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 2: of times, is a delightful human being. And so once 1588 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 2: you've made that connections, you play favorites, don't you news 1589 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 2: for you In a couple of moments, boy, Britain's busy 1590 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 2: at the moment. This epping thing is I mean, that's 1591 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 2: not like migrants, a new and migrant hotels and new 1592 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 2: but this epping protest has got really angsty. So Rod 1593 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 2: Little after the News, which is next here at news Talk, 1594 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 2: said be the. 1595 01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 3: Only report you need. 1596 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,719 Speaker 1: I like your Day, the my costume, Breakfast with a Vita, 1597 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,040 Speaker 1: retirement communities, Life your Way, new toy said. 1598 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,160 Speaker 2: Greg Early was telling us at the start of the 1599 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 2: show about the Terraff hit to the I mean, it 1600 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 2: was all exciting yesterday in Japan because they got the 1601 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,639 Speaker 2: big deal through the Americans. You know, there's no real 1602 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,639 Speaker 2: detail on the deal, but nevertheless they got a deal 1603 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 2: through and everyone thought that making a car in Japan 1604 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 2: was worthwhile again, so the market went through the roof. 1605 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 2: Not so for the American cars. They they were having 1606 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 2: a hell of a time STILLANTIS five billion dollar hit, 1607 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 2: a GM one and a half billion dollar hit. This 1608 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 2: is all Terrraff related so far. Hasbro who do the 1609 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 2: toys and the games, Magic, the Gathering, I've never heard 1610 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,760 Speaker 2: of it. Do we know what that magic? Is that 1611 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 2: a thing? Okay, so Magic, the Gathering and Monopoly go. 1612 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 2: They're they're big sellers. They came in with there they 1613 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,240 Speaker 2: made nine hundred and eighty million dollars. Is that good? Well, 1614 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 2: not really because they lost nine hundred million dollars, so 1615 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 2: they're losing money. So you're making toys and you're losing 1616 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 2: money why because of the one billion dollar charge that 1617 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:55,640 Speaker 2: they put us sid up with the teriffs. So a 1618 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 2: toy company one billion dollars worth of business just because 1619 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 2: try work up twenty three minutes away from. 1620 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with ins and eye insurance. 1621 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,719 Speaker 3: Peace of mind for New Zealand business. 1622 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,719 Speaker 2: They must go to Britain forthwith Rob little morning Mate. 1623 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 3: Good mor yipping. 1624 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,640 Speaker 2: How tinderbox esk is all of this. 1625 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 11: Fairly tinderbox esque in that there will be copycat riots 1626 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 11: across other parts of the country. I think, I think 1627 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,800 Speaker 11: what you have to remember is that the Epping protests 1628 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,720 Speaker 11: weren't just hooligans. You know, it wasn't hooligans. It was 1629 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:39,639 Speaker 11: genuinely the people of Epin. You saw rather well brought 1630 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:44,000 Speaker 11: up middle class women, you saw company directors. Everyone was there. 1631 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 11: They just don't like it in the country doesn't like it. 1632 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 11: But the biggest scandal at the moment is that there 1633 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,880 Speaker 11: was a counter protest by thirty or forty members of 1634 01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,840 Speaker 11: Stand Up to Racism, the left wing organization, and the 1635 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 11: police let them off the train and drove them, escorted 1636 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 11: them to where the protesters were as remarkable. 1637 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 2: They defend all that inside and we just it's balanced. 1638 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 2: So they've got reputational issues. 1639 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 11: They've got real reputational issues. The Chief Constable of Essex 1640 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,680 Speaker 11: has said he's not going to resign leave us the 1641 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 11: same Nigel Ferrar says he should resign, and so quite 1642 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 11: a few other people. A big article about it in 1643 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 11: the Daily Telegraph today. But it reinforces that worry, especially 1644 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 11: over this issue of a two tier legal system whereby 1645 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:45,960 Speaker 11: the left gets treated rather kindly and those who are 1646 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,839 Speaker 11: seen to be on the right get locked up. It's 1647 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 11: pretty bad. It wouldn't surprise me if in the end 1648 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 11: the guy does go. This is a guy called Ben 1649 01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 11: Julian Harrington. 1650 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,760 Speaker 2: By the way, Okay, I want to get back to 1651 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,840 Speaker 2: politics in a couple of moments, because some interesting things 1652 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,760 Speaker 2: have happened. But to Ozzie's been the big news. I 1653 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 2: mean he's big news all over the world. I get it. 1654 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 2: But and reading the British Persson in the last twenty 1655 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,840 Speaker 2: four hours it seems he was godlike in Britain. I 1656 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 2: mean the coverage has been astonishing. Is that fair? 1657 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1658 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,759 Speaker 11: I think. I think what he does is he cuts 1659 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 11: across a number of generations and a number of genres. 1660 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 11: If the Ossy Osborne view I was familiar with as 1661 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 11: a twelve thirteen year old had died, I don't think 1662 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 11: many people would have taken much notice, apart from in 1663 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,639 Speaker 11: the heavy metal community. But he transformed himself from being 1664 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 11: a kind of a dark lord of heavy metal with 1665 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 11: all this cult rubbish and so on, into being a 1666 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 11: national institution, a kind of clownish national institution, for one 1667 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 11: who seemed to be a good guy and on the 1668 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,880 Speaker 11: side of good guys. So I think it's more for 1669 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:04,320 Speaker 11: that than for perhaps his musical accomplishments that everyone is remembering. 1670 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 11: That being said, I know a few people who really 1671 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,639 Speaker 11: really rate the first three Drag Sabbath albums. I can't 1672 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,719 Speaker 11: say unnecessarily one of them, Mate. 1673 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 2: What you will be writing? I know as the Lion is, 1674 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 2: I can't remember. Is it Germany or Spain in the 1675 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,879 Speaker 2: final I've forgotten? 1676 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 11: I think we find out, don't we find out tonight? Yeah? 1677 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 2: I think I think the two to either Germany or Spain, 1678 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 2: the important point being they beat Italy. Are they good 1679 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 2: for the whole whole thing or not. 1680 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 11: They haven't been as impressive as they were the last 1681 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 11: time they won the tournament, but they are incredibly resilient 1682 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,800 Speaker 11: and incredibly tenacious. Twice they've come back from the dead 1683 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,400 Speaker 11: to win. There's been a bit of luck involved as well, 1684 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 11: but you need luck to win tournaments, something which has 1685 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:58,560 Speaker 11: eluded to male team for the best part of sixty years. 1686 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,800 Speaker 11: The other the other thing, of course, is that they 1687 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:07,639 Speaker 11: have said very boldly and been criticized for it, they're 1688 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 11: not going to take the knee because they feel it 1689 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 11: a futile and silly gesture which does nothing to fight racism. 1690 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 11: And suddenly I was converted to their course, having not 1691 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 11: watched much of the Women's Euros, because that the way 1692 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 11: they explained it. They said, it just doesn't do anything. 1693 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 11: It's just merging signally. I really approved of that, and 1694 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 11: you know, they may well get scapped down by their 1695 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:36,320 Speaker 11: own essay. 1696 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Hey, just a couple of quick things I've 1697 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 2: been reading about. Just want your expertise on bed not 1698 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 2: reshuffles Clibally's back. Does any of that make any difference 1699 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 2: to their prospects or not? 1700 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,040 Speaker 11: No, I don't think it does. Yet. There's a bit 1701 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 11: of a few more interior appointments where it looks as 1702 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:57,639 Speaker 11: if she's getting new advisors closer to number ten, closer 1703 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:03,639 Speaker 11: to the leadership office. But I don't think that bringing 1704 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 11: James James Kraby has done rather well over the last year, 1705 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 11: so as Robert Jenrick. You know, they've been the two 1706 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 11: people who kind of says Chris philm and those are 1707 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 11: the ones who've been rewarded. She needs, she needs to 1708 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 11: find something else and find it quickly if they are 1709 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:22,800 Speaker 11: going to be a force. 1710 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 2: Well, what she won't hear is Laura Anne Jones is 1711 01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 2: out of Wales, who is a conservative though, who depicted 1712 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,160 Speaker 2: to Reform. Is there something brewing on Reform that you're 1713 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,639 Speaker 2: just going to get a whole lot of people going 1714 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 2: the other winning side. And I'm on. 1715 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 11: Board, Yeah, I think so. My guess is that Reform 1716 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,680 Speaker 11: have staked out and agreed with a whole bunch of 1717 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,719 Speaker 11: politicians as to when and where they defect. I'm fairly 1718 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 11: sure that's the case. And I go from Tim Montgomery, 1719 01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:55,200 Speaker 11: who's a party member and I heard on the television 1720 01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,719 Speaker 11: the other night saying this, we've got some big names 1721 01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 11: about to come over. So they've got all this stock 1722 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 11: of conservative names and they will release them as and 1723 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 11: when it's advantageous to them. They really do hold the 1724 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 11: whip hand at the moment. 1725 01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,360 Speaker 2: Okay, make we'll catch up next week. Appreciate it, Rod 1726 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 2: Little Lee football's on now. Germany of v Spain heading 1727 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:19,679 Speaker 2: to extra time just quickly before we leave. They're borrowing 1728 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 2: was higher last month than they thought again, so they're 1729 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 2: not paying their way, which means there's more pressure on 1730 01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 2: Rachel reeves and that means there's more tax prices coming 1731 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,320 Speaker 2: or tax rises coming. The cost of food has gone 1732 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 2: up significantly. If you think our food price inflation the 1733 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 2: other day was bad, theirs was five point two, so 1734 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 2: that's no good. And brew Dog, who's one of the 1735 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 2: biggest craft brewers in Britain. They're closing ten pubs as 1736 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,840 Speaker 2: of about now, Aberdeen, Dundee, Leeds, Bright, Oxford, Sheffield, York 1737 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,400 Speaker 2: and three in London. Started back in two thousand and 1738 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 2: seven by a couple of fishermen. It's all needed in 1739 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,840 Speaker 2: Teas sixteen too, the. 1740 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,360 Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 1741 01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 1: News Talks at be. 1742 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,800 Speaker 2: Much anticipated Tesla earnings have just been released. Earnings are 1743 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,919 Speaker 2: down twenty three percent. Revenues are down twelve. There's storage 1744 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,519 Speaker 2: departments down seven. The credits, those are the credits that 1745 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 2: they you know, they get credits because they're an EV producer. 1746 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,800 Speaker 2: Other companies buy the credits carbon credit stuff. That's down 1747 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,000 Speaker 2: fifty one percent. Biggest revenue drop fifty one percent in 1748 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 2: a decade. Their margins are up if you're interested in that. 1749 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 2: They they're making more per card than they were and 1750 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 2: they've started or about to start the cost on this 1751 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:32,000 Speaker 2: their so called low cost car, whatever that means. By 1752 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 2: the way, speaking of cars, I note the other day 1753 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,120 Speaker 2: that I told you this at the time MG. I mean, 1754 01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 2: it's not just New Zealand's the world, but MG, which 1755 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 2: is I think gly owne MG these days. Anyway, if 1756 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 2: you look at what MG is now versus what MG 1757 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:49,200 Speaker 2: once was, MG once was just Britain all day long. 1758 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 14: And now it's if to be every second car I see. 1759 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 2: No, that's wrong, Glenn. It's completely and utterly one. You 1760 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 2: could not be more wrong. They sell no cars in 1761 01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 2: this country at all. It's been a disaster. I see 1762 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 2: heaps of them. You've got to get out of your block. 1763 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,080 Speaker 2: Stop going around around your block. You live in a 1764 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 2: cul de seck, he drives it in a cul de sac. 1765 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 2: He sees the same cars over and over again. Anyway, 1766 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,479 Speaker 2: they're set to pivot. What are they going to pivot 1767 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,679 Speaker 2: to hybrid first? Quote unquote hybrid first? 1768 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 3: Why? 1769 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,840 Speaker 2: Because all they had in this country, unfortunately, was ant 1770 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 2: EV and no one wanted to buy the evs. Let 1771 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 2: me give you actually doing while you. 1772 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,640 Speaker 21: Say that, so they're actually pronounced by is it pronounced. 1773 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,280 Speaker 14: Sayak or do you just say saic. 1774 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,759 Speaker 2: Sk? Yeah's sayek yeah? Is that they're not jealing? Okay? 1775 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,280 Speaker 2: So saik's gone first half of the year. So for 1776 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 2: six months of this year, there were three thousand, six 1777 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,679 Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen fully electric cars sold in this country. 1778 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 2: Now you go, is that a lot? And the answer 1779 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 2: is no, because Toyota alone sold four and a half 1780 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,439 Speaker 2: thousand revs. So just one model of one company sold 1781 01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,960 Speaker 2: four and a half thousand versus the entire EV stock 1782 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,400 Speaker 2: of this country three thousand, six hundred and seventeen. What 1783 01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 2: was the most popular EV in this country? The answer 1784 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,400 Speaker 2: to that was the why Sydney. So it's a question 1785 01:24:58,479 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 2: and a model. 1786 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 14: Ha, I'm completely confident that nobody's ever made that joke before. 1787 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 2: Okay, six hundred and thirty six. So the most popular 1788 01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,800 Speaker 2: EV over six months in this entire country only sold 1789 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 2: six hundred and thirty six cows. I'm looking for your 1790 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 2: car here at Glenn, your MG, I see. 1791 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,200 Speaker 14: You know, just clarify, it's not mine. 1792 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, no, I know it's not yours, but 1793 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,719 Speaker 2: you see them everywhere. Well, the second most popular was Pollstar. 1794 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 2: It's three eighty three, the by DT O three three hundred, 1795 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 2: the Model three, Tesla one eighty, the Dolphin one fifty four. 1796 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:33,920 Speaker 2: Number six is the c Lion seven, which is a 1797 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,640 Speaker 2: by D seven is the EV five. The key of 1798 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,599 Speaker 2: one two three eight is the EV three, the key 1799 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,719 Speaker 2: of one O three. There's not even the top ten gLing. 1800 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,599 Speaker 2: We're down to number ten, which is the BMW. They're 1801 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,240 Speaker 2: buying more BMW's than they are MG's. 1802 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,599 Speaker 21: Well, I wasn't necessarily talking about just the evmgs. 1803 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,720 Speaker 14: Oh, I see what because there are hybrid ones and 1804 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:54,439 Speaker 14: there are pictures. 1805 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,920 Speaker 2: Well you get your caroline limiting are they? Ah? 1806 01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 21: I looked, I looked at the MG when I was 1807 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,400 Speaker 21: buying my last car. 1808 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 2: Did you how long did you look at it? 1809 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 8: For? 1810 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 14: Not very long? 1811 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 21: Because I did the math on the so I was 1812 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,640 Speaker 21: in the in the market for a hybrid, Yes, and 1813 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 21: their hybrids were less economical than many other full petrol. 1814 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,800 Speaker 2: Well that's well done exactly. And see you're a bright 1815 01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,840 Speaker 2: you're a sharp customer. And just because you say the 1816 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,200 Speaker 2: word hybrid doesn't mean it means anything, doesn't mean a thing. 1817 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:22,840 Speaker 2: All you have to do is sick a tiny little 1818 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 2: battery in a car that does next to nothing. You 1819 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 2: go so hybrid, and people go, oh, hybrid, and that 1820 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 2: will save me a lot of money until you do 1821 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 2: the math and it doesn't. But anyway, if anyone else 1822 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,600 Speaker 2: sees an MG because there everywhere apparently, let us know. 1823 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 2: Nine away from nine. 1824 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,639 Speaker 1: The Mic hosting breakfast with the Landrover Discovery News toms 1825 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 1: Head been now. 1826 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,760 Speaker 2: Be into win your fair share of fifty thousand dollars. 1827 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 2: This is with Cadbury Trytime. So what you do is 1828 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 2: you purchase a Cadbury confectionery product. You head to cadbretritime 1829 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,000 Speaker 2: dot co dot m S upload your till receipt. Before kickoff, 1830 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,800 Speaker 2: you'll receive a randomly allocated all Blacks jersey number one 1831 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 2: to twenty three. 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Thank you, sir, 1846 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,640 Speaker 2: with brand securing a top ten position in the overall 1847 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,760 Speaker 2: market in the first quarter of twenty twenty five, mg 1848 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,200 Speaker 2: aceved seventh place in the year to date newcaar sales 1849 01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:45,679 Speaker 2: fourteen hundred and eighty nine registraction. 1850 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 14: I am in dting MgO right. 1851 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,200 Speaker 2: So so right. If you want to see a video, 1852 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 2: I watched a video yesterday at the Aston martin Vanquish, Valente, 1853 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,600 Speaker 2: which is I don't even think it's out yet, but 1854 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,240 Speaker 2: they autocard did it. Oh my god, through the beautiful 1855 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:04,800 Speaker 2: backstreets of rural England. Extraordinary to watch five minutes away 1856 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 2: from nine. 1857 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 3: Trending now with chills, great savings. 1858 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 2: Every day we've got freezing gate back. Remember McConnell, So 1859 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,240 Speaker 2: this time it's John Kennedy. He's the Louisiana Senata. He's 1860 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,880 Speaker 2: on with Larry Cudlow, whose looks about one hundred and 1861 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 2: seventy three. Anyway, he came down with a bad case 1862 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 2: of the Mitch McConnell's. 1863 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:31,920 Speaker 24: I'm sure Jesus loves them, but everybody else think everybody else, 1864 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 24: So I guess we have some more technical problems. That 1865 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 24: was the same thank as we last with Sanator around Paul. 1866 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 2: There wasn't any technical problem. He just stopped talking and 1867 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:48,719 Speaker 2: he froze. 1868 01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 21: I assume that sound in the background as his steam 1869 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:51,599 Speaker 21: powered brain. 1870 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,599 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what about the electric Mustang I was. 1871 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,400 Speaker 2: It's funny you should say that I was a car 1872 01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 2: dealership the other day looking for a car for our daughter, 1873 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 2: which we got, which wasn't a Mustang. I hastened to it. Anyway. 1874 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 2: I saw this electric Mustang, and previously on the show, 1875 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,680 Speaker 2: I said, whoever designed the electric Mustang should be shot, 1876 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,160 Speaker 2: And I've now changed my mind. In the right color, 1877 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 2: it's okay. I mean I wouldn't obviously be seen dead. 1878 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 21: I mean they just shouldn't have called it there. They 1879 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,520 Speaker 21: should have called it something else, because it's not a Mustang. 1880 01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 2: Right exactly. It's exactly what it isn't the same way 1881 01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,360 Speaker 2: that the modern the modern MG is not an MG, 1882 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 2: the same way the Mustang that you know and love 1883 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,280 Speaker 2: is the modern that is not the same thing. Be 1884 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,120 Speaker 2: authentic or go home. It's my party message to other day. 1885 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 2: Be authentic or go home. Back tomorrow morning. 1886 01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,600 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1887 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,800 Speaker 1: news Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow 1888 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,440 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.