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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 2: Togs hed been bonning and welcome today. The tariffs and

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Speaker 2: what to do all the local body elections, the lack

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Speaker 2: of candidates, the no contests, the Prime Minister and his humanity?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen it? The lads in the comedary box,

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Speaker 2: Richard and the state. Stephen Price is in the mighty

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Speaker 2: old pasking Welcome to Monday, seven past six. Now you

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Speaker 2: can slice the Warriors lost a million different ways. How

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Speaker 2: about this line, It wouldn't seem so bad if the

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Speaker 2: Titans never happened. What about it wouldn't be so bad

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Speaker 2: if there weren't so many injuries. See, you can argue

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Speaker 2: that Dolphins are a good top eight side, which they are.

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Speaker 2: Last time we barely beat them. This time they barely

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Speaker 2: beat us. You can argue we're still in the top four,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's the key. We're in the top

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Speaker 2: four for goodness sake. I mean, most years we're talking

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Speaker 2: about the highlight being the chance of scraping into the

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Speaker 2: top eight. We're still top four. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: what's going to fix it this week? This week we

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Speaker 2: beat the Bulldogs and that'll be that in life, and

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Speaker 2: as you fix the stuff you can fix. We can't

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Speaker 2: mend injuries, we can't bring Metcalf back, but we know

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Speaker 2: we're a side that deserves to be in the top four.

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Speaker 2: What we don't have, still don't have, is a victory

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Speaker 2: over a fallow top four side. We beat lesser sides, occasionally,

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Speaker 2: lesser sides beat us. Are the Bulldogs, the Storm and

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Speaker 2: the Raiders are above us. We have beaten none of them.

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Speaker 2: Now we've yet to play the Bulldogs, obviously, which is

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Speaker 2: why this weekend is such a big deal and become

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Speaker 2: a bigger deal after Friday night. We have no actual

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Speaker 2: proof we can beat a side that sits right alongside

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Speaker 2: us in the top four. You don't win the premiership,

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Speaker 2: of course, from outside the top four. Only twice in

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Speaker 2: all of league's long long history has a side from

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Speaker 2: outside the top four ever gone all the way. And

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Speaker 2: if we're being honest, we aren't one of those sides.

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Speaker 2: We find ourselves fifth, six, seventh or eighth. The top

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Speaker 2: four brings the sort of playoff advantages we need, so

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Speaker 2: in some respects the whole season is on the line

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Speaker 2: this weekend. If we beat a playoff side, we've got

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Speaker 2: the proof we're good enough. If we can do it

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Speaker 2: with depleted stock feels even better. Also means we won't

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Speaker 2: have lost, of course, three in a row. This has

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Speaker 2: been too good to see to blow it now. We

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Speaker 2: don't want to be scrapping to survive into the eight.

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Speaker 2: We want to cement a place in the four. We

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Speaker 2: want to finish on the up. We want a Bulldogs

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Speaker 2: win and then four easyish ones after that, including a

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Speaker 2: redeemtion outing of course against the Titans. It's still there

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Speaker 2: for the taking. I am still a believer. This is

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Speaker 2: still our you.

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Speaker 1: News of the world. In ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: World War came to Sydney yesterday as ninety thousand, having

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Speaker 2: been to court, of course, headed across the Harbor Bridge

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Speaker 2: Master was releasing videos and making demands in it. Nyahu

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Speaker 2: had some thoughts.

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Speaker 3: The reality is that systematic starvation is being carried out

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Speaker 3: against our hostages, men and women who are subjected to

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Speaker 3: severe and cruel physical and psychological abuse.

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Speaker 2: New Pope had some thoughts of his own.

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Speaker 4: We are with the.

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Speaker 2: Young people of Gasa. We are with the young people

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Speaker 2: of Ukraine, my young others and sisters. You are the

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Speaker 2: sign that a different world is possible. Then in Britain,

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Speaker 2: the really big news is this court decision around carlines

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Speaker 2: and with the people got ripped off. The cardial is

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Speaker 2: actually one, but compo will still flow.

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Speaker 5: It's fair for their consumers to be compensated. We also

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Speaker 5: want to ensure that the market relied on by millions

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Speaker 5: each year can continue to work well and consumers can

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Speaker 5: get a fair deal. Our aim is a compensation scheme

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Speaker 5: that's fair and easy to participate it.

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Speaker 2: It's a really big deal as I'll work it through

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Speaker 2: the final detail shortly. Anyway to the boat crishes. A

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Speaker 2: couple of things in Britain. One, a crackdown on human

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Speaker 6: We also want to actually go after the individuals and

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Speaker 6: criminalize what they are doing and that they are selling

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Speaker 6: this false narrative that you can safely travel illegally to

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Speaker 6: the United Kingdom in a small boat for a sum

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Speaker 2: In two, a faster appeals process that hasn't exactly been welcome.

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Speaker 7: The reason why there's such a high backlog in the

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Speaker 7: appeals process of the asylum system at the current time

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Speaker 7: is that we have been trying to speed up asylum

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Speaker 7: initial decisions. In doing that, the quality of decisions has plummeted.

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Speaker 2: Finally, I we'll talk to Steve about this later on

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Speaker 2: because it's a big deal. But the Victorian government has

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Speaker 2: announced yesterday they're going to make working from home a

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Speaker 2: legal right. In other words, if you can and want to,

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Speaker 2: it'll begin the law. A couple of days a week

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Speaker 2: be law, they tell us by next year. As news

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Speaker 2: the world in ninety inflation, I've got some inflation for you.

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Speaker 2: Just two percent in the Eurozone are for July, unchanged

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Speaker 2: from June. A little bit higher than they thought. They

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Speaker 2: thought one point nine, but it came in at two.

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Speaker 2: So not the end of the world. But eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: Now fifteen percent we should be worried about. Of course,

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Speaker 2: We'll last the Prime Minister about that, because he said

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Speaker 2: on this program many times we don't want to be

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Speaker 2: materially worse off than anyone else, and yet now we are.

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Speaker 2: Most notably, of course, Australia could have been worse. You

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Speaker 2: Devastated is the word they've used all weekend. They're running

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Speaker 2: the same line we are, which is we're going to

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Speaker 2: go to Washington try and twist some arms. They don't

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Speaker 2: know where it came from, they don't know why, but

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Speaker 2: thirty nine percent is a hell of a lot worse

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Speaker 2: Welcome for the week, mor than Mike. Tell you what

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Speaker 2: this money and Apple isn't there? I oh, absolutely so.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, quite a strong's old actually on Friday, but I

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Speaker 8: think it was just three the tariff announcements that sort

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Speaker 8: the revenue's up ten percent, four billen. That's the fastest

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Speaker 8: pace of growth in three years, five billion more than

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Speaker 8: market was expecting. And hey, they're making a bit of

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Speaker 8: a comeback in China there. Mike's sales up four percent,

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Speaker 8: iPhone sales thirteen and a half percent high. So these

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Speaker 8: glasses will be better. Tim Cock also said we're way

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Speaker 8: AI devices. That's good for the iPhone need income that

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Speaker 8: was up three billion to twenty four point four billion. Now,

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Speaker 8: speaking of tariffs, they wore an eight hundred million impact

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Speaker 8: and they said tariffs could cost it one point one

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Speaker 8: billion in the third quarter. Most of iPhones are now

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Speaker 8: be an impact for them, But overall a pretty good result.

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Speaker 8: Amazon those results strong as well, forecasts not so much.

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Speaker 8: Revenues one sixty seven billion, five billion higher than a

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Speaker 8: year ago. Amazon Web services doing well, sales are up

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Speaker 8: seventeen percent. But all this AI investment, Mike, is coming

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Speaker 8: thirty one point five billion on data scenes and the like,

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Speaker 2: And then we got those job numbers and that poor

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, obviously an outcry over there, and you know, obviously

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Speaker 8: Trump saying that the figures are fudged and it's a

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Speaker 8: Biden a pointy and so on. But in the same

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Speaker 8: factory print that was also very weak. So you know,

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Speaker 8: maybe the job numbers aren't lie. I think the next

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Speaker 8: jobs released will be fascinating, but yeah, let's look at them.

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Speaker 8: So the US economy added seventy three thousand jobs for julys.

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Speaker 8: That was well by the expectations of one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 8: Interesting thing as well, Mike, it was very concentrated, so

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Speaker 8: health care and social assistance that was ninety four percent

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Speaker 8: of job growth DOGE. That's still having an impact. Government

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Speaker 8: employment that was down twelve thousand. Also very notable that

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Speaker 8: one So clearly deteriorating. Obviously not sitting too well of Trump.

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Speaker 8: to smooth that out. Employment growth has averaged thirty five thousand.

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Speaker 8: Now that's the worst since the pandemic. So what's going

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Speaker 8: of Labor Statistics. He's called Jerome Powell a disaster once again.

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Speaker 8: the markets have now raised the odds to seventy five

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me some good news. Do we have something

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Speaker 2: here on the consents for housing in New Zealand.

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Speaker 8: Yes, we have our data and we're pretty comp and

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Speaker 8: that aren't we annual new home consents they've lifted one

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Speaker 8: That's that's the first time in two years that we've

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Speaker 8: had in your growth. Obviously still well below the fifty

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Speaker 8: twenty two standalonees, Mike, they are up six point three percent.

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Speaker 8: Apartments and like are not so positive, down three percent.

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Speaker 8: work that was nine billions, that was down that point

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Speaker 8: nine percent. Factory builds weaker officers are doing very well.

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Speaker 8: But we're we're pointing out with those building costs that

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Speaker 8: the actual cost of building has wasn't a lot over

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Speaker 8: the past year, so worse than inflation and just a terms.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, lots of positives, particularly in standalone houses, Mike.

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Speaker 8: So look, are we seeing some green shoots. That might

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Speaker 8: be a bit early to call, but let's take that

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Speaker 2: We will what are the numbers, so of course we.

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Speaker 8: Know what was dragging the markets down on Friday, And

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Speaker 8: of course the dows down five hundred points one point

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wednesday for the jobs. Another problem for the government

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Speaker 2: So he was have you missed it? The best Red

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Speaker 2: Talk more about it with Rod tomorrow because it really

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Speaker 2: These bastards who ripped you off. Yes, they were technically

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Are there a whole bunch of jurisdictional issues and boundaries

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Speaker 11: No, the FBI are not strangers to us in New Zealand.

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Speaker 12: Believe it or not, what are the FBI do here?

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Speaker 11: But their focus within New Zealand is very much in

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Speaker 2: So it's the same thing that you hear often in

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Speaker 11: Well, they're a little bit more specific than that, and

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Speaker 2: Good will we see given the cooperation between the two

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Make appreciate the insight. Mike Penit, who's the

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Speaker 2: We're not happy. So then he sacked somebody because the

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Speaker 2: job numbers aren't right. Bring us up to speed.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's it.

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Speaker 9: The Trump team is offending off concerns over his economic policies,

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Speaker 9: with the president's chief economic advisor saying now that some

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Speaker 9: bad economic numbers just out, it must be a typo.

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Speaker 9: The latest jobs report has the unemployment rate up new

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Speaker 9: jobs down. Thirty seven thousand manufacturing jobs have been lost

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Speaker 9: since the Trump tariff campaign began in April with what

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Speaker 9: he called Liberation Day. Well, Wall Street is feeling liberated

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Speaker 9: of some of their profits. The Dow lost two point

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Speaker 9: nine percent last week, It's worst weekly performance since the

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Speaker 9: tariff war started. Trump's reaction to the bad numbers was

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Speaker 9: to shoot the messenger. He said, the job's numbers have

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Speaker 9: been quote unquote rigged to make him look bad. So

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Speaker 9: he ordered the firing of Erica macinturf for the head

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Speaker 9: of the Bureau of Stats.

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Speaker 2: So numbers were wrong, just like I thought her numbers

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Speaker 2: were wrong before the election.

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Speaker 9: Well, he's provided no evidence on any of that. Trump

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Speaker 9: also claims that this chief statistician rigged job numbers before

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Speaker 9: the last elections in a bid to help Kamala Harris. Actually,

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Speaker 9: final job figures before that election were not favorable to

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Speaker 9: Harris at all. The Statistics Bureau is nonpartisan, they say,

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Speaker 9: and the chief was confirmed by the US Senate with

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Speaker 9: a vote of eighty six to eight. You know, policy

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Speaker 9: can't even agree that strongly on time of day.

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Speaker 2: Even JD.

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Speaker 9: Vance voted for mcintarffe before he turned into a Trump loyalist.

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Speaker 9: William Beach, who was appointed by Trump as the Chief

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Speaker 9: Statistician during his first term, says the attacks on his

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Speaker 9: successor nonsense.

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Speaker 14: Messenger has no control over the data.

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Speaker 5: The commissioner does not even see the numbers until the

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Speaker 5: numbers are completely done and they're loaded and ready to

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Speaker 5: be distributed.

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Speaker 9: Film's economic advisor, Kevin Hassett says the bad numbers must

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Speaker 9: be wrong on their very face. He was pressed on

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Speaker 9: this a short time ago by Christen Welker of NBC.

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Speaker 9: Look at the number itself, it is the other, but

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Speaker 9: just saying it's an outlier, it's not evidence.

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Speaker 10: It's a historically important outlier. It's something that's unprecedented, so

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Speaker 10: unprecedented I've been looking at it for forty years that

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Speaker 10: I'm like, it must be a type of here.

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Speaker 9: It is must be a typo. With higher prices looming

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Speaker 9: as the new tower stake effect, and with estimates that

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Speaker 9: the average consumer here is going to be hit by

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Speaker 9: just over four thousand dollars in New Zealand per person

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Speaker 9: because of these tariff costs, it will be interesting to

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Speaker 9: see how the typo explanation fears this week on Wall.

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Speaker 2: Street, Right, I Wizard of Oz, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 9: I don't know. We'll see, but there are two choices here,

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Speaker 9: AI gone wild or a revelation. We're seeing the very

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Speaker 9: first images of a new immersive version of the classic film,

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Speaker 9: The Wizard of Oz. Word is they've spent nearly Can

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Speaker 9: this be true? Yeah, one hundred and forty million dollars

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Speaker 9: in New Zealand enhancing the nineteen thirty nine film so

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Speaker 9: it can play in the sphere of the massive dome

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Speaker 9: like performance space that opened in Las Vegas sixteen months back.

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Speaker 9: The screen at the sphere is one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 9: times bigger than the first screen that the movie was

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Speaker 9: shown on eighty six years ago. The sphere has one

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Speaker 9: hundred and sixty seven thousand speakers. What would glad to

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Speaker 9: think about that? A one hundred and sixty seven thousand

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Speaker 9: speakers repeating We're not in Kansas anymore? Yeah, indeed. Well,

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Speaker 9: the tornado from the original focuses on Dorothy and Toto,

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Speaker 9: but this one will have the audience ducking and weaving

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Speaker 9: in their seats, say the AI experts.

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Speaker 15: Bring and when the leaves and different kinds of particulate

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Speaker 15: in the atmosphere.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they'll have high powered fans to make it feel

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Speaker 9: like bits of farm gear and animals are flying all

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Speaker 9: around you. Not all I'm persuaded that's a good idea,

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Speaker 9: but audiences can decide. Starting at the end of this month.

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Speaker 2: Right see Wednesday, Rich and Anold's outside by the way

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Speaker 2: are They opened an investigation into as they were always

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Speaker 2: going to into Jack Smith over the weekend, the Office

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Speaker 2: for Special Council. Mister Smith, it's on the way, appointed

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Speaker 2: a special council twenty two. You remember the name. He

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Speaker 2: was the one who investigated Trump on a bunch of

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Speaker 2: stuff classified documents. Is attempted to his attempt to interfere

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Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty election. They don't have any this office,

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Speaker 2: the Special Council Office, doesn't have any authority to actually

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Speaker 2: lay criminal charges, but they think there's something there. They

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Speaker 2: then headed over to the do J. So Tom Cotton

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Speaker 2: was driving that. He's the Republican Senator from Arkansas, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see where that ends up. Eleven away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities News,

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Speaker 1: Tom said vs.

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Speaker 2: Now Consumer confidence came out Friday. Were down again. This

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Speaker 2: is the ame z Roy Morgan down by four points.

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Speaker 2: Were at ninety four point seven. We were up in

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Speaker 2: June quite a bit. We thought things were going well

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Speaker 2: in June. By July, we changed our mind. Inflation expectations.

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Speaker 2: They're now at their highest level since April of twenty three.

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Speaker 2: They're up zero point two. It's gone through the five

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Speaker 2: percent barrier. That's what we think is going to happen

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Speaker 2: to inflation. None of that's good, It's entirely possible, says

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Speaker 2: the Bank. That both gd and employment went backwards in

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Speaker 2: the June quarter GDP, that's the whole economy went backwards

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Speaker 2: in the June quarter. Do we think it's a good

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Speaker 2: time to buy a major household item, No, mind you,

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Speaker 2: we haven't for a while. A perception of our current

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Speaker 2: personal financial situation down down eight to minus twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Feel negative. Regarding the economic outlook over the next twelve months,

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Speaker 2: we're down three to minus sixteen. Perceptions of the economic

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Speaker 2: outlook five years ahead, though remains steady at plus seven.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how the hell we know what's going to

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Speaker 2: happen in five years time. It's guesswork. But here's the

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Speaker 2: point is there's an increasing amount of commentary if you're

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Speaker 2: reading over the weekend, from people saying, oh, pretty much

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Speaker 2: the same thing, and that is the pressure is now

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Speaker 2: going on lux and the pressure is now going on

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Speaker 2: the government every time that they go, we've turned the corner.

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Speaker 2: We've turned the corner. We've turned the corner. We go

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Speaker 2: show it to us and they'll go farm as sure,

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Speaker 2: farmers are going great, but who else show it to us?

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Speaker 2: So Bruce Cottrell over the weekend, he's interesting some of

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Speaker 2: the reaction to the butter prices. He's talking about the butter.

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Speaker 2: Some of the reactions of the butter prices had been

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Speaker 2: up there with the best of the Monty Python. For

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Speaker 2: those who have stopped watching the six pm news, you

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Speaker 2: missed the cringeworthy moment where a political reporter interrupted the

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Speaker 2: CEO of Fonterra as he walked down the street, her

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Speaker 2: purpose to challenge him on the price of butter. A

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Speaker 2: day or so later, another journalist ars Miles Hurrel if

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Speaker 2: he had ever been to a supermarket When he replied

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Speaker 2: that he was in the supermarket yesterday, the journalist immediately

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Speaker 2: quoted a seven figure salary when suggesting he shouldn't notice

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Speaker 2: the price of the liquid gold. If the viewer wasn't

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Speaker 2: embarrassed the day before, surely there would be my Now,

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Speaker 2: my only hope was that no one from overseas was

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Speaker 2: watching the attack on success and aspiration that seems to

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Speaker 2: have become a feature of life in our country. What

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Speaker 2: an excellent line. My only hope was that no one

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Speaker 2: from overseas was watching the attack on success and aspiration

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Speaker 2: that seems to have become a feature of our life

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Speaker 2: in this country. So my question to the year, it

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Speaker 2: will be to the Prime Minister as well, is how

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Speaker 2: much of our current circumstances is us we're in a funk,

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Speaker 2: We're determined to be in a funk, we love being

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Speaker 2: in a funk. We don't know how to get it

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Speaker 2: out of a funk versus how much of it's actually real?

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Speaker 2: And a few people need to be held to account.

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Speaker 2: And we'll have more of that commentary later on the program.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: Seven for the ins and the Ouse, it's the Fizz

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Speaker 1: with business Fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: And part of it wasn't help with the national part

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Speaker 2: of themselves. They held the conference over the weekend in

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Speaker 2: Christians is where this whole you wander into the countryside,

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Speaker 2: is that people who work in the open spaces of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand are desperate never to have anybody else there.

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Speaker 2: The moment you suggested, as they did over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: that you might get a concession, you might start a business,

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Speaker 2: you might bring more tourists to climb some mountains and

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Speaker 2: you know, wander a few crebases. The moment go oh,

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Speaker 2: we don't want any of that. Heaven forbid, we should

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Speaker 2: actually monetize the outdoors. Anyway, The president of the party goes,

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Speaker 2: we just don't see this humanity. He's got humanity. I

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Speaker 2: know he's got humanity. I've seen this humanity as just

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Speaker 2: no one else sees as humanity. And I'm thinking the

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Speaker 2: problem you start explaining that that's half your battle, isn't it?

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Speaker 14: Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Where was I? A has arrived and traveled this morning.

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Speaker 2: First global AI sentiment report comes to us from booking

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Speaker 2: dot com. So they serve about thirty seven thousand across

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Speaker 2: thirty three markets, including one thousand of us here. Overall,

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Speaker 2: we want to use more AI. Eighty one percent of

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Speaker 2: us said we're excited. We're excited about it. Seventy nine

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Speaker 2: percent want to use it for future travel plans. It's

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Speaker 2: already here and getting worked over.

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Speaker 7: Though.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, ninety eight percent have used some AI

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Speaker 2: pound stash. The chat GPT, for example. That's just another

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Speaker 2: version of Google, isn't it? That's all you're doing. Instead

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Speaker 2: of googling where should I go in July, you're just

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Speaker 2: going chat GPT where should I go in July? It's

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Speaker 2: the same thing, isn't it. Eighty one percent of used

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Speaker 2: it for streaming recommendations. That's the same as Google as well,

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Speaker 2: what's currently on Netflix? Forty nine percent find it in

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Speaker 2: personal Sixty four percent either always or sometimes do extra

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Speaker 2: fact checking. So now we're doing everything twice, and you

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Speaker 2: wonder why we've got a productivity problem in this country.

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Speaker 2: Only six percent feel comfortable with AI making decisions independently

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Speaker 2: for us. Gosh, I'm glad that's the number, because that's

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Speaker 2: sort of a machine making decisions on your life when

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you might want to make a few

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Speaker 2: for yourself. When it comes to planning a trip, From

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Speaker 2: thirty nine percent of using it to research destinations the

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Speaker 2: best time to visit, so in other words, Google thirty

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Speaker 2: six percent of using it to find local or cultural experiences.

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Speaker 2: Google thirty one percent use it to find a restaurant

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Speaker 2: for god, suck. We also say that AI is now

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Speaker 2: a more trusted planning travel assistant than colleagues or influences.

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Speaker 2: So enjoy that. So Tim Groser was once our trade minister.

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Speaker 2: Does he take I mean McLay was on this program

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Speaker 2: on Friday and I said, if it's fifteen, which I

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Speaker 2: think it will be, is that on you? And he

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Speaker 2: seemed to think it wasn't. He seemed to think that

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Speaker 2: there was nothing we could do. But would you take

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Speaker 2: it personally? If you were the trade minister and you

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Speaker 2: were on ten and you go to fifteen and then

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Speaker 2: you look across the Tasman and you make across there,

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Speaker 2: big don the trade minister. He's got ten? How's that

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Speaker 2: worked out for us? So Tim gross performed the trade

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Speaker 2: minister in the next half hour of the program, and

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Speaker 2: then a whole bunch yet again, a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: contests that aren't contests for local body elections. The nominations

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Speaker 2: closed on Friday, and there will be people re elected

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Speaker 2: by basically having no one run against them. Is that democracy?

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Speaker 16: More?

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Speaker 1: Shortly, news opinion and everything in between, the mic costing

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example, News togs Head be only.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So the real question out of the

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Speaker 2: fifteen percent is what if anything can we do about it?

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Speaker 2: Were we stiffed given Australia's got ten percent and they

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Speaker 2: must have a material effect on us being able to

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Speaker 2: do business. Tim Gross, a former trade ministers, back with this,

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Speaker 2: Tim morning to you.

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Speaker 12: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Would you have taken it personally if you were still

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Speaker 2: in trade No.

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Speaker 17: I think the criticism of my successor, Todd mcclay's is

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Speaker 17: ill informed. That's unfair. I don't believe there would have

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Speaker 17: been any material difference if it camped, and so the

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Speaker 17: White House for about a month prior to it. It's

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Speaker 17: quite clear what has happened to you, and that is

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Speaker 17: countries with the surface New Zealand has what Australia actually

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Speaker 17: do not. Countries with a surface got quite with at

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Speaker 17: least fifteen percent, and countries with a deficit didn't. So

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Speaker 17: I don't believe anything could have done would have changed

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Speaker 17: that underlying reality. Now, look, Mike, there is a future

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Speaker 17: ahead of us, as you're just summarized. And I think

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Speaker 17: it's entirely correct that the government sending up senior officials

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Speaker 17: and no doubt the minister will arrive in due course.

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Speaker 17: But we have to be very very careful because the

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Speaker 17: lesson of those countries that did negotiate with the so

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Speaker 17: called negotiat wasn't a negotiation. It was agreeing to things

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Speaker 17: at the point of a gun. Actually often ended up

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Speaker 17: worse off as a result. This is a very unusual situation.

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Speaker 17: I don't think we've seen anything like it.

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Speaker 2: No does it stay though from an American point of view,

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Speaker 2: In other words, once Trump leaves the office, even if

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Speaker 2: the Republicans, when will they change that, will ever go

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Speaker 2: back to being what we thought it would be or

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Speaker 2: should be? Or are we stuck here now?

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Speaker 17: The number one question that is exactly the number one question.

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Speaker 17: My own view is that the negative effects of this

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Speaker 17: haven't even begun to kick in on the American people.

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Speaker 17: I mean, you can't shove in massive tariff increases on

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Speaker 17: issues that are on commodities that are crucial to American

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Speaker 17: industry into American consumption without negative effects. But none of

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Speaker 17: this has been felt yet. These teriffs don't even take

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Speaker 17: any until August the seventh, So you know, this is

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Speaker 17: the law of unintended effects is going to kick in

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Speaker 17: big time, and that may well open up a completely

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Speaker 17: different future. We simply have to play it by a year.

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Speaker 2: What chance we can twist an arm in America and

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Speaker 2: change anything or bugger.

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Speaker 17: All, actually, Mike. But the space for that may open

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Speaker 17: up in the future when the negative effects start to

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Speaker 17: kick in. For example, if prices start to increase, do

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Speaker 17: you really want to shove in a fifteen percent tariff

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Speaker 17: on New Zealand beef for example? So you know that's

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Speaker 17: that's where the discussion should be, just creating the essentially

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Speaker 17: in a holding pattern, waiting for an offer unity to arise.

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Speaker 17: But the idea of us going in there and negotiate

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Speaker 17: with the United States this is a fantasy because of

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Speaker 17: the balance.

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Speaker 2: Well, so appreciate it as almost im grossive former Trade

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Speaker 2: minister where it's ten minutes past seven, Minister on that

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Speaker 2: shortly obviously possible to move from the government to around homelessness.

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Speaker 2: The government seeking urgent advice after these reports showing a

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Speaker 2: sharp rise. Tougher criteria was introduced last year. It requires

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Speaker 2: applicants to prove they hadn't contributed to their own housing need.

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Speaker 2: Paul Barber's senior policy and analysts with the Sellies as

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Speaker 2: well as Paul morning.

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Speaker 14: Thank you, good moning.

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Speaker 2: Have you got a feel for how many people are

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Speaker 2: choosing this lifestyle? As opposed to being forced into it.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think it's not a lifestyle choice. So almost

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Speaker 14: all the people are on the street, and certainly for

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Speaker 14: the people you know the rapid rise has seen in

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Speaker 14: numbers recently, it's definitely more about things that are happening

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Speaker 14: to them for them, that have led to them being homeless.

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Speaker 2: Well, so when you say that Mark Mitchell Antonia taps

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Speaker 2: all the mayor of Road to Ruas say exactly the opposite,

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Speaker 2: for it is a choice.

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Speaker 14: So who do I believe, Well, I would ask you

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Speaker 14: to think about at the moment the situation of people

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Speaker 14: who are sleeping rough, they're living in cars, they're living

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Speaker 14: in ready unstable situations. And for most people it's not

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Speaker 14: about a choice. It's about being forced for instance, losing

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Speaker 14: their housing, being in a situation for instance, you have

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Speaker 14: maybe been come out of prison or a mental health

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Speaker 14: service and there just hasn't been anywhere to go to.

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Speaker 14: That's the kind of situation people are in.

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Speaker 2: Chris Bosher Barby argued over the weekend, this one this

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Speaker 2: is just decades long issue, or at least years long issue.

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Speaker 2: To there's spending plenty of money. It's not a money thing,

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Speaker 2: it's a delivery thing. Is he right?

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Speaker 14: Well, certainly, homelessess has been an issue for many years,

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Speaker 14: but at the moment it's we're in a real urgent

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Speaker 14: situation where it's the worst it's been for years, and

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Speaker 14: we really need some urgent action. Whether the resource in

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Speaker 14: question would be a good one that actually have opportunity

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Speaker 14: to discuss with the minister. We certainly failed to get

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Speaker 14: to deal with a situation. Some of the hundreds of

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Speaker 14: millions as dollar as they have been taken out of

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Speaker 14: emergency housing support needs to be reinvested into programs and

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Speaker 14: rep around services that actually do support people into sustaining part.

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Speaker 2: Of the problem. See the emergency motel thing was a

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Speaker 2: disaster and it was predicated I think, on the idea

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Speaker 2: that it was temporary, when the problems that many of

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Speaker 2: these people have are not temporary. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: do you either hook into these people and look after

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Speaker 2: them forever or you don't? Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 14: Well, it's yea certainly people need supports. People don't need

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Speaker 14: to support forever. There are a few people who may

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Speaker 14: need quite a long term support. A lot of people

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Speaker 14: if you can get get people into good house, sort

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Speaker 14: out some of the financial issues around support, income support,

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Speaker 14: help them with health and possibly with addiction issues, with

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Speaker 14: other issues that might be going on. They can be

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Speaker 14: fine and they can move on and on with their lives.

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Speaker 14: The programs that work with people at the moment coming

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Speaker 14: out of street homelessness, you know they're effective, but it's more.

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Speaker 14: It's about more than a home. It's about providing those

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Speaker 14: other supports around people as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Paul, good on you. Paul Barber, Senior policy analyst

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Speaker 2: at the Salvation Army. Thirteen minutes past seven. People are

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Speaker 2: spending wonderful weekend in Takapuna. Crawts flocked to Chicago, paying

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Speaker 2: for parking and meals and restaurants. Just because they're not

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Speaker 2: buying crap from China doesn't mean they're not in the doldrums.

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Speaker 2: It's a fair point. Katie and our daughter was a

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Speaker 2: Chicago that roushow over the weekend. They said it was

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Speaker 2: chocolate block the chair, the tickets weren't cheap. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what that means. I didn't buy them, but they

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Speaker 2: said they weren't cheap and the place was full. Mike,

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Speaker 2: the economic negativity and funk you say the country in

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Speaker 2: at the moment is perpetuated by a sad negative media.

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Speaker 15: Is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, it is. I get it that the

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Speaker 2: media has got a lot to answer for, But why, Bob,

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Speaker 2: can't you see through that and see that for what

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Speaker 2: it is and work out your own reality? And is

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Speaker 2: your own reality one of negativity? In other words, if

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Speaker 2: you don't feel it's a good time to buy fridge,

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Speaker 2: is that because the media told you it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: good time to buy a fridge, or because it's not

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Speaker 2: a good time to buy a fridge. But it's an

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Speaker 2: interesting question, isn't it. Fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Hike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Mike tim Gross is right about the US tariff effects

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Speaker 2: having not even started. One should look at the Smooth

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Speaker 2: Hawly terror fact of nineteen thirty to see what happens

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Speaker 2: with excessive tariffs world depression. Yeah, there are two different

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Speaker 2: things at play here. Trump's been successful in enacting what

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Speaker 2: he said he would enact. The other part of that

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Speaker 2: is is it smart economics? And the answers unquestioned believe

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Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back to the shortly seventeen past seven, right,

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Speaker 2: stand by for another lackluster local body election in some

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Speaker 2: parts of the country, deadline having come and gone Friday.

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Speaker 2: Some races no competition at all. The incumbent wins by

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Speaker 2: de fault. In Lower Hut five councilors elected uncontested. Good

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Speaker 2: news in Hamilton though, twenty six candidates for just the

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Speaker 2: one seat Hamilton Eastward. How hot's that? Campbell Barriies, the

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Speaker 2: VP at local Government New Zealanders. Where's Campbell? Morning?

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Speaker 12: Good morning?

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Speaker 2: So there's the last minut flurry on Friday. My understanding

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Speaker 2: couple of hours ago. People put their names and does

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Speaker 2: it make you feel any better? Are we're getting anywhere

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Speaker 2: good in this or no?

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Speaker 18: It varies across the board. As you mentioned, in our area,

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Speaker 18: we've got five uncontested seats. I don't think that's good

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Speaker 18: for democracy. We do want to have races, but it

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Speaker 18: does depend on the local context and the reasons and

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Speaker 18: the ward sets upset ups as well. We do want

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Speaker 18: to be seeing more people stand Unfortunately, with the environment

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Speaker 18: we've got, I think that does put some people off.

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Speaker 18: But I think the important thing now is we've going

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Speaker 18: to do everything we can to try and get that

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Speaker 18: vote participation up because the voting numbers I think is

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Speaker 18: the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any indication if the nominations aren't there,

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Speaker 2: the races aren't there, then why would suddenly people start voting.

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Speaker 18: I think the ural race is quite a big one,

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Speaker 18: so for us we've got four strongmural contenders. I think

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Speaker 18: you do see an uptick when that's more high profile,

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Speaker 18: so it'll be interesting to see what that means. I

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Speaker 18: think there are some more systemic issues to vote participation.

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Speaker 18: Postal voting, you know, that is just completely not fit

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Speaker 18: for purpose at the moment, and how people actually vote,

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Speaker 18: information on candidates as pretty lackluster as well. We've been

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Speaker 18: doing some work through Government New Zealand, through our Electoral

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Speaker 18: Reform Working Group to suggest some recommendations to change that.

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Speaker 18: So actually how we vote and the process I think

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Speaker 18: could be a lot better. And also obviously there are

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Speaker 18: some bigger challenges of getting good people to stand, so

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Speaker 18: that's something we need to address.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen here's my fun fact of sixteen mayors who aren't

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Speaker 2: standing again. Six were first termers, four had completed only

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Speaker 2: two terms. What's that tell you about it? It sounds

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Speaker 2: to me like a bugger this? Who needs this?

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Speaker 18: That's an interesting one. I think that's probably the first

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Speaker 18: time I've seen such a large number of one term

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Speaker 18: mayors decided to step aside. Some of them are actually

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Speaker 18: still standing for counsel which is interesting. Again, I think,

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Speaker 18: you know, in due course we should dig a bit

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Speaker 18: deeper into that because it is something that's a little

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Speaker 18: bit unusual. I don't have an answer of why, but

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Speaker 18: I think it's a good observation, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Campbell appreciate at Campbell Berry, who's the VP of Local Government,

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Speaker 2: Bishop was out over the weekend, Chris. Five councilors elected

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Speaker 2: unopposed already in the Lower Hut. As we've just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the part of the problem. As far as

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Speaker 2: I can tell, all of the Eastbourne Community Board has

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Speaker 2: been elected unopposed. Five slots, five people. Now this goes

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Speaker 2: back to what I argued all along. There are far

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Speaker 2: too many jobs. There are far too many people, far

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Speaker 2: too many boards, far too many councils. So by the

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Speaker 2: time if you feeled if you can tested every single

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Speaker 2: slot up for grabs, you would be needing literally thousands

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Speaker 2: of people to put their names forward. It's never going

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Speaker 2: to happen, especially at community board level. Right, Let's get

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Speaker 2: back to the Tarraff seven twenty.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. How

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Speaker 12: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: out of Trump's fifteen percent, is there simply nothing we

890
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: can do about it? As Tim Grosser suggested a moment ago,

891
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: what does the PM have to say given a stance

892
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: was we don't want to be materially worse off than

893
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 2: anyone else. The main thing here we are we are,

894
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: and not just that, but one of our biggest trading

895
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: partners has a better deal than we do. Australia got

896
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: ten percent, so did the UK, so did Brazil. But

897
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: Australia it's got to hurt. They can land their beef

898
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: and their wine at ten percent, we land ours at fifteen.

899
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: If we don't want to be materially worse off and

900
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: arc can we do anything about it?

901
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 9: Now?

902
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: You can argue we're not as badly hit as others.

903
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: We don't make shoes in Asia, we don't make cars

904
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: in Italy. But five percent on billions is a lot

905
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: of millions, and we can't afford it. Is their hope

906
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: that we can trade through it. For example, I mean

907
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: if you stuck fifteen percent on some Felton robe Pinot

908
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: on Fifth Avenue, New York. Would they notice or care?

909
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: Is there a lack of herd size in America so

910
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: severe and their desire for burger is so great that

911
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: New Zealand beef can charge pretty much whatever they want

912
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: the extra and get away with it. Or has all

913
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 2: this impacted enough people so as to generate a major

914
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: global shift in trade direction? Other words, does more of

915
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: the kiwi fruit and the wine and the lamb head

916
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: to the Middle East and the EU than it used to?

917
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: The prize for America as this will be I think permanent.

918
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: The part Trump always had right was there were countries

919
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: and arrangements that did rip the US off of that.

920
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 2: There was no question we weren't one of them. We're

921
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: just the collateral damage. But even when Trump leaves, and

922
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: even if the Republicans hold the office, no one's going

923
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: to undo this, I don't think, because it, without question

924
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: as a major American victory. He delivered what he said

925
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: he would do. Say whatever you want about Trump, this

926
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: has been, although chaotic, ultimately a massive win for him.

927
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: But there's no one to blame here. From our point

928
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: of view, there's no one to blame. It's not the

929
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: government's fault. The lesson, if there is one, is this

930
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: is what happens to tiny countries at the bottom of

931
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: the world. I think it's that simple. They couldn't give

932
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: the monkeys about us. The US is not remotely interested

933
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Are they happy to open an FBI

934
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Speaker 2: branch office. They realize we're part of five eyes. Hell,

935
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: we may even end up in part of August Augus.

936
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: But a good trade deal, forget it. Asking the trade

937
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: is interesting between Australia. So they have forty billion between

938
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: Australia and the US. We've got nine, So we actually

939
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: box above our weight if you think about it, because

940
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: they are many times larger than our economy. The Australians

941
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Speaker 2: and what they send is also interesting. US makes up

942
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: sixty seven percent of their export market, where at twelve

943
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: point seven, so we're more reliant on America than the

944
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: Australians are. Beef, and this is where it gets critical.

945
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: They're beef three point three billion, We're at two and

946
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: a half billion, so once again, beef specifically is one

947
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: point eight so we're boxing well above our weight given

948
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: the size of the once again, the Australian economy. But

949
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: if they Land their beef at ten percent and ours

950
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: is fifteen percent. Do would you buy Australia? I mean

951
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: personally I wouldn't because not as good as ours. But

952
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean, is there that nuance and subtlety in the

953
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: American market? Who would know? We run about a billion

954
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: in dairy to the Americans, three quarters of a billion

955
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: in wine. It's beverages, but mainly it's wine. Big on

956
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: mechanical machinery. Wood fish, fruit and nuts all a third

957
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: of a billion. So between wood, fish, fruit, nuts, that's

958
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: a billion dollars worth of business. So this is all material.

959
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: If suddenly the bit of wood from news Yland's got

960
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: fifteen percent and the bit of wood from Australia's got

961
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: ten percent, why I mean there's no difference is you

962
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: buy the cheap of wood, and that's where it's going

963
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: to actually hurt us. On things like fish or wine

964
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: or lamb. You might might be able to argue quality

965
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: a bit of wood, you can't do. You know what

966
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: else we do to the tune of half a billion

967
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: dollars with the Americans? I bet you'll never guess illuminoids,

968
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: starches and glues half a billion dollars worth of illuminoids,

969
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: starches and glues from New Zealand to the US. What

970
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 2: does that even mean? Chris luxem and the studio after

971
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: the News, which is next on the my costume dis.

972
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Speaker 1: It's New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the

973
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential,

974
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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks.

975
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Speaker 2: He'd be sport to write the commentary bots of course,

976
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from being a Tuesday, No, it's

977
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Speaker 2: not being a Monday morning. Christ of the elections will

978
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: us very good morning to you with the NCEEA announcement

979
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: is coming when because the media seem to have been

980
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: building up like this is going to the waters are

981
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: going to part in. Something amazing is going to happen.

982
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: So when is it being announced?

983
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 10: It's coming out in the next few hours. Eric and

984
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 10: I are going to make an announcement here in Auckland.

985
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 10: It'll be quite massive. But as you and I've talked before,

986
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 10: it's just not working for parents, teachers and principles. We

987
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 10: need to get back to teaching our kids and basics,

988
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 10: and we also need to set up a qualification. Frankly,

989
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 10: that's globally competitive and actually more importantly educates our kids

990
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 10: so we can access higher paying jobs. So yeah, the

991
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 10: next few hours, is it prescriptive the announcement, Well, we

992
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 10: want to make sure that there's a focus on some

993
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 10: core subjects, you know, like as we've said, you know,

994
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 10: going into high school, we've got challenges with New Zealand

995
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 10: students not being where they need to be on reading,

996
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 10: literacy and numeracy. We've put a big focus on that

997
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 10: as you've seen in the primary and intermediate school sector.

998
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 10: As we go forward from here, you know, I want

999
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 10: to make sure that we can't have what we've had,

1000
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 10: which is sort of an assemblage of you know, tasks

1001
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 10: to get credits for a degree and then still not

1002
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 10: a qualification, and then not have our kids set up

1003
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 10: to do the basics really well. So when does it

1004
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 10: just the next few hours? When does it start in

1005
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 10: the classroom oil and ounce all of that in the

1006
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 10: next few hours.

1007
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're going to go out to a consultation.

1008
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: Are you open to consultation?

1009
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 10: Is it just like Wolf, Well, we want to hear

1010
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 10: the views, but we're pretty clear about the direction of

1011
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 10: travel and fairness, you know, principles, teachers, parents have fed

1012
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 10: through a lot of you know, positions that have actually

1013
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 10: led us to this point.

1014
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, the here and now fifteen percent. You've said

1015
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: on the show a number of times we don't want

1016
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: to be materially worse off than anyone else. Yep, you

1017
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: lose because you are, well we are.

1018
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 17: You know.

1019
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 10: We've got a new minimum standard for those countries that

1020
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 10: are selling more than buying from the U than but

1021
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 10: what they buy from the US. Yep, it's fifteen percent

1022
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 10: is a minimum. There's about forty countries in that group.

1023
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 10: There are some that actually have higher than fifteen percent.

1024
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 10: And yes, if you're on a deficit with the US,

1025
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 10: which means you're you know, like the UK, like Australia frankly,

1026
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 10: yet you're at ten percent. But I just say, Mike,

1027
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 10: our exporters and America have been pretty agile. Our exports

1028
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 10: to the US this year up six percent. And when

1029
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 10: you're in a market I live there for eight years.

1030
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 10: Market at three hundred and fifty million people. There are

1031
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 10: wealthy consumers whether they want our wine, our red meat,

1032
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 10: that are prepared to pay a premium. And a lot

1033
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 10: of our exporters have been able to pass through the

1034
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 10: pricing to the American consumer. Now it'll it'll create some

1035
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 10: difficulties for some companies, no doubt about it, who may

1036
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 10: not be able to fully pass it through. But you know, again,

1037
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 10: our exporters are pretty agile and they're moving around the world.

1038
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 10: And it underscores yet again why from day one you've

1039
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 10: got to hustle. You've got to do trade with India,

1040
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 10: you've got to do trade with the UAE, you got

1041
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 10: to do trade with the EU and UK and other

1042
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 10: places all around the world. So it's not what we

1043
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 10: want it, but you know, and it's pretty fixed. That's

1044
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 10: the standard now in terms of a minimum for.

1045
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: So two parts out of that, Tim Grocers Seed, you

1046
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: stand zero chance of getting the suggested in any ways.

1047
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 10: You're right, yeah, I think it's pretty unlikely. Prison it's

1048
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 10: pretty fixed in his firm views. But we still need

1049
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 10: to have dialogue in a relationship with the American administration.

1050
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 10: I just say Todd McLay has a very good relationship

1051
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 10: with his counterpart and we've had ongoing dialogue since the

1052
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 10: announcement of tariffs in April. But yes, I want to

1053
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 10: set expectations right that I think it's pretty obvious that actually,

1054
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 10: whether you've been in a more deep negotiations like say

1055
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 10: the Swiss, you've ended up with thirty nine percent. You

1056
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 10: know we've got the minimum we've got for countries that

1057
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 10: are running a surplus.

1058
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: So you are hand on heart telling us you could

1059
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: have done nothing more.

1060
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 10: Oh, I think we handled it very well. I think

1061
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 10: we had very good engagement at official ministerial level, which

1062
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 10: was important. This was a decision that was a blunt

1063
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 10: decision made pretty last minute before the announcement, where the

1064
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 10: President decided, actually, all countries with a deficit get ten minimum,

1065
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 10: all countries with a surplus get fifteen minimum.

1066
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I've read this weird article in a foreign media

1067
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: outlet last week. Do you realize that bringing a cruise

1068
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: ship to this country is the most expen to exercise

1069
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Speaker 2: in the world.

1070
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Speaker 10: Yep, Why, well, there's a whole bunch of I think

1071
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 10: we've we've got to go back and look at it.

1072
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 10: Something Louise Upston and I've been talking about. There's a

1073
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Speaker 10: whole bunch of pilava that we often make our cruise

1074
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Speaker 10: ships go through coming into New Zealand, anti fouling, a

1075
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Speaker 10: whole bunch of things around biosecurity. That adds a huge

1076
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Speaker 10: amount of cost to it. It's things frankly also like

1077
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 10: the ships have got bigger and you've actually haven't we

1078
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 10: haven't had infrastructure to support it. That's why the Ports

1079
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Speaker 10: of Auckland's you know, getting their fast track application thro

1080
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Speaker 10: where theyre going to do those one big port extension.

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Speaker 10: I think an extra three hundred meters to enable larger

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Speaker 10: ships to come in and out of the country is

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Speaker 10: actually a good thing. So yeah, we've got if we want.

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Speaker 10: We want cruise ships coming here. It's a key part

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00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 10: of the tourism sector. We are looking at what are

1086
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 10: we making but you're looking to doing No, we are

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00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 10: looking actively looking at what are we doing that we

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Speaker 10: don't want to. We don't want to make it harder

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Speaker 10: for cruise ships to choose not to come here.

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Speaker 2: But they are because the numbers are plummeting. And this

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Speaker 2: what worried to me about this is this was off

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Speaker 2: sure reported. So that's our reputation being you know, printed

1093
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: out for the world to read about and go, well,

1094
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: why would to bother? Yeah, and that's why we're stuck.

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Speaker 10: Just been two bits.

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Speaker 2: The cruise ships.

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Speaker 10: Around the world are just getting much much larger, the

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00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 10: building brand new boats that are actually just.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but did happen last Tuesday? We will know everyone else.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but under the rama, we're going to take five

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00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 10: years to extend aport. We're taking six months to do

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Speaker 10: it from go to woe to get those consents in place.

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Speaker 10: And then I think you're right. There's other pieces to it,

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Speaker 10: particularly as I understand around now biosecurity ass which are

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00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 10: quite onerous and you know minister Hogarten, and help someone

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00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 10: working that through as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, homelessness, is it a choice or not? In some cases?

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Speaker 10: Oh, look, it's pretty complex issue, like it really is.

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00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 10: Like you know, people say, oh, just get get homeless,

1110
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 10: fok a house and everything will be fine. Actually you

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00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 10: get into the issues and each individual circumstances pretty complex

1112
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 10: and pretty You've got mental health issues, you've got addiction issues,

1113
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 10: got a whole range of things. Uh, there'll be some

1114
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 10: people who choose that, But actually I don't think. I

1115
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 10: don't think people really choose that. I think it's about how.

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Speaker 2: We know that and knowing it's gone on for years,

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00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: do you think now with some level of regret, that

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00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: you've got a bit hard on it and you've got

1119
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: the homelessness situation that you've got.

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Speaker 10: No, no, no. I want to be really clear because

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Speaker 10: if you just take a step back, homelessness end up

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00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 10: thirty seven percent on for the last administration, and we

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Speaker 10: were spending a billion dollars on emergency.

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Speaker 2: Now that's because they stuck them in motels there at point.

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Speaker 2: But you stick them in a motel and you think, oh,

1126
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: that problem will be solved. If you're addicted to stuff

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Speaker 2: in Europe, whatever you need it, it's never going to

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Speaker 2: be solved. You need something bigger. So I think there's

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Speaker 2: a few things going on. One is we actually took

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Speaker 2: to so people understand it. We actually identified everybody in

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Speaker 2: a motel with kids that've been there longer than twelve weeks.

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Speaker 10: We put them to the top of the State House waitless.

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00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 10: The state House weightless has come down by six thousand,

1134
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 10: by the way, since come to power. We've got those

1135
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Speaker 10: people into dry, good homes. Then there's a question. We've

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Speaker 10: got the State House wasteless down, We've got rent stable.

1137
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Speaker 10: That's been helpful. But now actually, as you heard Chris

1138
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 10: Bishop say, were spending half a billion dollars with agencies

1139
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 10: and services around supporting people with complex needs and homeless situations.

1140
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 10: He's happy to look at it. Sure it's getting to

1141
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 10: the right places.

1142
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: Okay. Some accountants signed a letter, three thousand of them

1143
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: said we want a capital gains taxing any chance next

1144
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: year as part of the election. I'm texting our way

1145
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: through this.

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00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 10: We try that before. Text more, spend more, borrow more. Frankly,

1147
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 10: that's what caused the mess that from Chris up Constantine.

1148
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Speaker 2: Bit of reading over the weekend. Actually, I should ask

1149
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: you about the president. When the president of your party

1150
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: talks about your humanity and you know people need to

1151
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: see your humanity is having to explain that part of

1152
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: the problem. My humanity is on display and you will

1153
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: show every every week. I mean, I'm not arguing. I

1154
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: appreciating she turns up when she turns up at your

1155
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 2: conference and goes, oh, we need to see is humanity?

1156
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: Is that part of the problem. No, Look, I mean

1157
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: I don't think New Zealand is really what we're talking about. Myself.

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Speaker 10: You know, they want me getting on and cracking on

1159
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 10: and sorting it out.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty simple.

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Speaker 10: They elected us to change. They'll make a decision in

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty six where they think we're on the right track,

1163
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 10: wrong track, right direction, wrong direction, and these Zelanders will

1164
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 10: make that decision. I'm just very focused on what I've

1165
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 10: got to do, which to get us out of the

1166
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Speaker 10: hole that we've been in.

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Speaker 17: Right.

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Speaker 2: So I read four things over the weekend. Bruce cottle Wld.

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Speaker 2: You read him in the Herald yesterday. I didn't read

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Speaker 2: his articlebout he's very good, Yes, Liam Ate? Did you

1171
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: read his piece? Liam Dan or William dam My? Apologies? Okay?

1172
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: Damian Grant, you read his piece yesterday?

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Speaker 10: Sometimes I do.

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Speaker 2: Roger Partridge this morning. You read his piece, Roger Patrick, okay,

1175
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: but you haven't read that. So I've read all of them.

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00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: They all say the same thing. In fact, Damian Grant

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00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: summed it up best. He was talking about Kiwibank and

1178
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: you wanted to do what you did last week with

1179
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: Kiwi Bank. This is Jim Andertan's economic agenda being advanced

1180
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: by a notionally conservative government. Is that part of your problem?

1181
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Speaker 10: I mean on the banking side, you know, putting five

1182
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 10: hundred million dollars or Keybank being able to raise five

1183
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 10: hundred million dollars to grow and to be able to

1184
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Speaker 10: get four billion a lending out to businesses and ten

1185
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Speaker 10: billion more out to retail customers.

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Speaker 2: That's a good thing.

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Speaker 10: That puts more competition into the banking set.

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Speaker 2: His point was that ACT wanted to sell it, and

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Speaker 2: Jenny Shipley wanted to sell it. So the National Party

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Speaker 2: once wanted to sell it. Now you want to advance

1191
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: it and grow it.

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Speaker 10: I look at something twenty five years ago. But we

1193
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Speaker 10: are where we are right now. We've got a Commerce

1194
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 10: Commission saying we haven't got enough innovation, we haven't got

1195
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Speaker 10: enough competition in the banking sector. We've got things like

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Speaker 10: the open Banking piece. Yes, we want to put five

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Speaker 10: you know, five hundred million dollars a capital raise is

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Speaker 10: going to be you know, there's there's people out there

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Speaker 10: that want to invest in keep we bank to make

1200
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Speaker 10: sure it's got cash that can actually be more competitive.

1201
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Speaker 10: I think that's a bad thing.

1202
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Speaker 2: So from Roger Partridge, when populism drives policy, everyone pays.

1203
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: He was going back to the button meeting at Nikola

1204
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: Willison all that sort of stuff. Essentially, what these guys

1205
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: are all saying is that you guys aren't up for much. Basically,

1206
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: your fiddlers and the country's burning and it's still burning

1207
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: and the whole twenty twenty five here we go, rock

1208
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: and roll isn't happening, And that's why you are where

1209
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: you are in the polls, and that's why you've got

1210
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: the problems. I disagree. You were going through the biggest.

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Speaker 10: Recession since the early nineteen nineties. We've had to take

1212
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 10: medicine as we actually fixed spending, you know, inflation, interest rates,

1213
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 10: growth and unemployment, you know the other five things that

1214
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 10: happen when you don't when you lose shape on economic management,

1215
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 10: which is what the last lot did. Now, when you

1216
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 10: think about it, we're doing some pretty big things. We're

1217
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 10: going to We're reforming rm A. No government's done that,

1218
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 10: lots have talked about doing it. Well, it's going to

1219
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 10: be a fantastic legacy of massive enablement to getting things

1220
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 10: done and built in this country. Hard work, difficult work,

1221
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 10: lots of detail, but we're moving at pace through that.

1222
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Speaker 10: I think when you look at the announcement we'll make

1223
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 10: around NCAA, there big decisions. They're important decisions that actually

1224
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Speaker 10: set you zilling up in a very different way going forward.

1225
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 10: So I think we've got the right long term economic plan.

1226
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Speaker 10: We've got people still feeling the effects of cost of living.

1227
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Speaker 10: But that is a function of you know, as we

1228
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Speaker 10: worked our way through and had to take our medicine

1229
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Speaker 10: after a massive party, going through a hangover. But you've

1230
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 10: got to keep the faith and just sort of keep

1231
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 10: the eye on the prize and work your way through it.

1232
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Speaker 2: This Wednesday, unemployment they say five point three from five

1233
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: point one. Is if it's five point three, is that

1234
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Speaker 2: it has it peaked?

1235
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Speaker 10: Well, I mean every forecast has said that this is

1236
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 10: the time that it would be peaking, right, and it's.

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Speaker 2: The last but I mean, just so no, it's the last.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's the reason for my question is is

1239
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Speaker 2: this Wednesday as bad as it will? Do you think?

1240
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Speaker 10: Well, that's what our belief is on the forecast, and

1241
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Speaker 10: we're pretty much following the forecast that we've we're peaking

1242
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 10: about now on unemployment. We've got forecast growth of two

1243
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 10: point seven percent average per year out of the last budget.

1244
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 10: We've got two hundred and forty thousand jobs coming in

1245
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 10: the next four years, so you know, we want to

1246
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 10: see it tapering down from here on through. And so

1247
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 10: so yeah, it's not surprising it's peaking now good today,

1248
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 10: But if you've been a business ham with inflation and

1249
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 10: suppressed demand, the last thing you left with is laying

1250
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Speaker 10: off workers. And that's what you've seen in the last

1251
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Speaker 10: twelve months.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. Seeing next week. Good to see

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Speaker 2: Chris Lucks and twelve.

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Speaker 2: How long nationally going to blame labor? I give them.

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Speaker 2: I always give the governments the same. You get the

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Speaker 2: first term, You get the first three years to say

1259
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Speaker 2: whatever you want, blame the previous guys, but then you've

1260
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Speaker 2: got to deliver come the next election. Just a reference

1261
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Speaker 2: Damian Grant's piece yesterday, which was very good. Back in

1262
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Speaker 2: two thousand and one, Act declared they would sell the bank.

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Speaker 2: This is Kiwi Bank, as did Jenny Shipley. Now it

1264
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: seems these parties more interested in reheating the old socialist

1265
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: working papers. This is Jim Anderton's economic agenda being advanced

1266
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: by a notionally conservative government. Allowing Key Webank to raise

1267
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: half a billion will do nothing to reshape the domestic

1268
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: banking landscape. The challenge for this government is that they're

1269
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: unwilling to confront the real issues driving our absolute economic decline,

1270
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: so they focus on the symptoms of failure rather than

1271
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Speaker 2: the underlying drivers. So this is part of what I'm

1272
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Speaker 2: terming this ongoing or building commentary around the problem that

1273
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Speaker 2: the government has got at the moment. They can survive

1274
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: or die on the economy. If the economy comes right

1275
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: by next year, you're not going to care, and this

1276
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: isn't even going to be a conversation. But if things

1277
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: don't start coming right by next year, then you're arguing

1278
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: around ideology and philosophy and I'm not sure there's a

1279
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 2: strong enough to survive. The counter to that is, of course,

1280
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Speaker 2: would you really go back to what you still remember

1281
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: from three years ago and say, well, I'll have some

1282
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: more of that, please serving away from.

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Speaker 1: Eight them my cosking breakfast with rainthrowver news, togs dead,

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Speaker 1: be the.

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Speaker 2: Roger Partridge staff. When populism drives, everyone pays, That's what

1286
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Speaker 2: he says, and think of the CV agree. The real

1287
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Speaker 2: issue here is not deary. This goes back to the

1288
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Speaker 2: butter business. It is not dairy. It is discipline. When

1289
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Speaker 2: a government terms a world priced export product into a

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Speaker 2: domestic political football, it sends a clear signal, and that

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Speaker 2: signal is felt far beyond the dairy. And this is

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Speaker 2: Nikola Willison, her big business of I'm bringing miles and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell him what's going on. Political scrutiny

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00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 2: rights Roger of market outcomes is not wrong. But when

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00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: that scrutiny begins to resemble theater, and when targets appear

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Speaker 2: to be selected for their prominence not their conduct, the

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Speaker 2: consequences are not benign. So it's a very good piece

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Speaker 2: and well worth following up. Have you got a bit

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Speaker 2: of time today now if you haven't watched the F one,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's all too late on the spoilers. Of

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Speaker 2: course we know what happened to Leamy wanders off to

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Speaker 2: the holiday, the summer break. He came in act. It

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00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: was a good race. It was an interesting race. The

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00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: Norris Piascre thing is interesting if you followed it over

1305
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: the weekend. The Lewis Hamilton thing is really really interesting

1306
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: because it goes to beyond talent and skill and experience.

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: It goes to culture. And there's guy who no one

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01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: doubts can drive a car, but he can't drive a

1309
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: Ferrari and it's really in his head now, so it's

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Speaker 2: fascinating to watch anyway that and all the other sport

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Speaker 2: over the weekend for you in a couple of moments,

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Speaker 2: as we're head to the commentary box with Andrew Sabil

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Speaker 2: and Jason Pine Here on the Mike Hosking Breakfast of.

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Speaker 1: News Talk, zed b setting me a gender and talking

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Speaker 1: the big issues, the Mike Honking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life Your Way, News Talks.

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Speaker 19: Head be Sprung ro.

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Speaker 15: Run No Run Car twenty points to wait ten the

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Speaker 15: full Times Car.

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Speaker 8: The Dolphins steal the word over the Warriors here at.

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01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 20: Auckland from twenty points down, the Mulus come back and

1322
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 20: steal it against Dorkland and Canterbury bete the defeending champions

1323
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 20: Wellington and round one.

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Speaker 13: This Otago side, who scored the street tries to two.

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Speaker 21: It's unlucky at one this first round, but exam pct.

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Speaker 20: Have got anotherwa scores a drum goal to mak it

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Speaker 20: thirty seven seven head full time. In his fiftieth NPC game.

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Speaker 2: Leb Lawson held off Max with Stafford Racing Balls beating

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Speaker 2: rad Bull eighth place ninth place.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, D eight passed eight. Andrew Sevil Jason Pine, Good

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Speaker 2: morning to you both. Just a couple of quickies from

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Speaker 2: both of you, if we could. Jason, you first, I

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: was listening to I was filling the car yesterday with

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01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: the ninety eight and I was listening to you were

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Speaker 2: talking to the bloke from the Phoenix and you were

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01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: talking about beer priestsman in general. Do you think from

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Speaker 2: your vibe, is anybody overtly exercised about that appointment?

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Speaker 1: No?

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: No.

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01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 21: The general feeling is that she's done her time, world

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01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 21: class coach. Wouldn't have got her had it not been

1346
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 21: for the drone scandal. Ironically great appointment. So now I

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 21: think there's the odd dissenter, But I think the real

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01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 21: view is a very very positive appointment.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything behind the scenes, and you don't have

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01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: to tell us if you know what it is? In

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01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: case of some legals, because when we had her on

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01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: the program, she was alluding to the lawyers and all

1353
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, Is there anything beyond the story

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01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: apart from she was driving the drone or there just

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01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: seems an inference that there were other people involved. Is

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Speaker 2: that fair or not?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, that's fair.

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01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 21: There's also suggestions of other things in the background, not

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01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 21: related to the drone use that are being mediated at

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Speaker 21: the moment, so I think that's probably the reason why

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Speaker 21: she can't say too much. But I think those things

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Speaker 21: will be squared away and we'll look forward to seeing

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Speaker 21: how she goes and Wellington Mike, Mike, I.

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Speaker 15: Think if this Phoenix women's team starts winning under her,

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 15: no and or care, all will be forgotten because this

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01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 15: team has treated water for a couple of seasons. So

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Speaker 15: if she can help them win and push them the victories,

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Speaker 15: and I think everyone moves on and.

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Speaker 2: Quickly from you, Andrew. Did we think it was the

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Speaker 2: Lions game? Genuinely the Wallabies coming to life and therefore

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Speaker 2: there'll be competition for us or was it the Lions

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: who had already won we're looking forward to going home?

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Speaker 15: I think probably more the latter. Right, the lines certainly

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 15: would have celebrated after that second Test match, and no

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Speaker 15: matter what they said during the weeks of consciously right,

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01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 15: you've won the series two zip and yeah, they were

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01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 15: looking for a clean sweet but they just weren't up

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01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 15: like they were in the first and second game. So look,

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Speaker 15: I think the Wallabies played well. I think there's a

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Speaker 15: lot of talent in that team. There's a lot of potential.

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 15: Don't have a huge amount of depth, but they played

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 15: well and I think they'll give the All Blacks a

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Speaker 15: run for their money.

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Speaker 2: Right, next quick one from you, Jason. Greyhound racing end

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Speaker 2: of the season with seventeen deaths, eight hundred injured dogs.

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Speaker 2: Do you know anybody who's remotely interested in greyhound racing personally?

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Speaker 21: Don't you?

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Speaker 2: Andrew? Do you know anybody who's remotely interested in greyhound racing?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: I do, but very small pockets compared to what it

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01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 15: used to be. I think it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Are they members of your family?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 15: No, no, no, not not no no. And I can count

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Speaker 15: the cats in that as well.

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Speaker 21: They don't like greyhounds, not fans.

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Speaker 2: There's something wacky about that sport, isn't it. Every time

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Speaker 2: we get the bloke on from greyhound racing, yeah, I

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01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: mean they're on their way out. They still defend what

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: is the every time you know, when you go, when

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01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: you hit. You're going for sixty one on the Sky

1403
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: Channel and you're looking for ESPN and you go one

1404
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: more and you end.

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01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 15: Up on the race the stumble across the dogs.

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01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: Across the dogs, and you think, is that the saddest

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Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen in my life?

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Speaker 17: Or what?

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: And seventeen dead, eight hundred and gen and we're still

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Speaker 2: thinking this is good times.

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Speaker 15: It's just like I would imagine the tab still makes

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01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 15: money off the dogs, do they?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 15: I mean, it's all happened relatively. It's going to happen

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01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 15: relatively quickly, isn't it with Winston Peter's decision. Apparently it

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Speaker 15: was touted and then he decided and then.

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Speaker 2: Gone, okay, now do you want some viewing recommendations? You two? Yes,

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Speaker 2: The answer, of course is yes, well done, Jason. I

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01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 2: don't know which one's better.

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Speaker 15: So, hey, what about the last two sets of six

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 15: from the Dolphins versus the Warriors. I'm sure we'll get

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Speaker 15: to that.

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Speaker 2: We were okay. So here's my thing. It's your line

1425
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: about BEV. So after this weekend when we beat the Bulldogs,

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01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: doesn't matter anymore, doesn't It's over? So the whole season Andrew.

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Speaker 2: The whole season is what I'm saying. The entire season

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Speaker 2: is on the Warriors this weekend. If we don't win this,

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Speaker 2: we're done. If we win this, will I can't believe

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't. You can't. You can't lose to be in

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Speaker 2: the top four and not justifying. Yeah, that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is we're in the top four and

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Speaker 2: we've not beaten a single top side. If we beat

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Speaker 2: them this weekend, it's there for us all the way.

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Speaker 15: A lot of injuries, Yeah, I worry about the injury.

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Speaker 2: Change that. No, don't start this. You can't change the

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01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: stuff you can't change. Don't sit there, goa they're not

1438
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: coming back.

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Speaker 15: Nine defeats in a row for Wayne Bennet, bottom of

1440
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Speaker 15: the table.

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Speaker 2: A lot of injuries, yeah, but my point being, I mean,

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: if Metcalf is listening to us now and he suddenly

1443
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: got up Jason because you were worried about his injury,

1444
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: he's going to play this week, fantastic, But that's not

1445
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 2: going to happen. You've got to change the stuff you

1446
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: can change, and a little bit of attitude, a little

1447
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: bit of organization. Have we beat the.

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Speaker 15: Ball, no doubt about it, Mike, they should have beaten the.

1449
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Speaker 2: Dolphins, correct, but we didn't.

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01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 16: You did you?

1451
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 15: You erupt at the end of that game?

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01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: Is that on no No, I limped away. I limped away.

1453
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: I limped away an exasperation because that, to me was

1454
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: what I'd seen previous seasons. That was the That was

1455
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: the Warriors of old, where you think you're there but

1456
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: then you're not, and you go, how many times do

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Speaker 2: I have to watch that story?

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01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 12: Now?

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01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 15: What we're going to tell us to watch?

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01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you go after the break

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Speaker 2: Actually thirteen past eight the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on Radio cart By

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: B U S Talks. It be sixteen past days.

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Speaker 1: The Monday morning commentary box on the Mike Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty.

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Speaker 2: Years has resembled Jason Pine with us right for a

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Speaker 2: short thrill, look up the video I watched. The Red

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Speaker 2: Bull produced it. It was done at the Goodwood Festival

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Speaker 2: of Speed and the Professional Rally Driver. There's a rally

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Speaker 2: stage set up at the Goodwood Festival of Speed with

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Speaker 2: Liam d Liam's driving the rally car.

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Speaker 15: So it does very well.

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Speaker 2: He does incredibly well, the point being, first of all,

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Speaker 2: he'd never seen the stage. Second of all, most importantly well,

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Speaker 2: he'd never driven a rally Karen's life, literally, never driven

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Speaker 2: a rally Karen's life. By the end of the fourth

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Speaker 2: he had four goes to do it. By the end

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Speaker 2: of the fourth gas and two seconds of the professional.

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Speaker 15: I enjoyed seeing Greg Murphy too in the old school Holden,

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Speaker 15: did you see that?

1483
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: Yes? I dim well worth watching now have you seen it?

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Speaker 15: Just disappoint of Liam Lawson just quickly look. I think

1485
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 15: what's been forgotten in all this this season with his

1486
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 15: demotion from Red Bull if he can call it that

1487
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 15: now he posted another top ten finish or was it

1488
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 15: eighth this morning? Yes, and hungry. He's getting points, he's

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Speaker 15: proving that he belongs. He's qualifying high up. He beat

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Speaker 15: maxis Staffing today. Because the top Red Bull car seems

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Speaker 15: to be a bit of a dog right. What seems

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01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 15: to be forgotten is here is a young New Zealander

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01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 15: in the thick of it in Formula one. I think

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 15: we've all forgotten that. And you look at those times

1495
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 15: and qualifying the day the top ten was separated by

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01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 15: half a second, and that's an incorrect tweak of the

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Speaker 15: steering wheel, isn't it across a whole lap half a second?

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01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 15: So what I think he's doing is still quite remarkable.

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Speaker 2: Is couldn't agree more? Couldn't agree more. And I think

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Speaker 2: the second half of the season is going to be

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01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: better than the first half, and so he's on a

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: trajectory and that's what you want to that's what you want.

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 15: To see will be there next year.

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01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Brady and Boomingham's my other recommendation, Jason

1505
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: Amazon Crime, Brady and Birmingham, Tom Brady and the Boomingham team.

1506
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: And I've watched one episode so far, way more fascinating

1507
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 2: than I anticipated it to be.

1508
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 12: All Right, I'll ever look at that.

1509
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 11: I'll ever look at that as well.

1510
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 16: Just on Lawson Well who will be the number two

1511
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 16: driver for Red Bull next year? Because Sonoda is having

1512
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,879
Speaker 16: an absolute trauma in that car, isn't he? Yes, Lawson's

1513
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 16: going better than hadj are at Racing Ball.

1514
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: They won't know he's not. No, no, no, you can't know, Jason.

1515
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: You can't say that he's not the answer to your

1516
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: question is Hadja will replace Sonoda. If Sonoda goes, Hadja

1517
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: is still beating Lawson in terms of points overall. Today

1518
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: was a bad example for Hadja. But he's a better driver,

1519
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: and he's doing more and he's on a better trajectory.

1520
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: I think, okay, And they'll never put Lawson back in

1521
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: Red Bull, so.

1522
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 16: I don't think that's a bad thing.

1523
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: That's not a bad thing. Not until well, not until

1524
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 2: they change the car. And they don't change their car

1525
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 2: until next year is what that boils down to. So

1526
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: there you go. NPC. Did anyone watch it? You guys

1527
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: would have watched it, wouldn't you.

1528
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 15: I watched it. I quite enjoyed it, Mote. There's a

1529
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 15: couple of dramatic finishes. Some of the venues were empty,

1530
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 15: which is not a great look. Some were full and

1531
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 15: the cargo went off for that Stags Otargo game. I

1532
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 15: quite enjoyed this weekend.

1533
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 2: I saw a bit of the Canady thing, the canterbid

1534
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: Cannaby looked good. They're going to win the whole.

1535
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 15: Thing against Wellington.

1536
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1537
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 15: I enjoyed the NR Ral as well. There was some

1538
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 15: There was some riveting matches across the weekend as well.

1539
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,839
Speaker 21: Now the issue can I ask about the All Blacks

1540
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 21: and who the half backs are going to be.

1541
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 15: Well, your unius off the Unix cab off, which's not me.

1542
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1543
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 21: Well, well, I mean we've got so, we got k

1544
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 21: and we need two more now, probably a lot.

1545
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 2: Of time angsting Jason about people who were in.

1546
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 12: I do.

1547
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: You're right?

1548
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 21: Actually I should I should have wided my her.

1549
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 3: We'll have it.

1550
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 2: Look, all I know is come the weekend we'll have fifteen.

1551
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: Will when that'll be the end of it?

1552
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 21: Okay, Well I hope you're right. Well I am right, right,

1553
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 21: I just wonder how deep we have to go into

1554
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 21: our nines.

1555
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: That's all fair enough, All right.

1556
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 15: Well that's a great it's a great out of shoot mate,

1557
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,440
Speaker 15: I mean, what's the point. What's the point the shupermarket

1558
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 15: on your way home? You get a couple of pounds

1559
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 15: above where you come on, I.

1560
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: Mean, what's the point? Look, that's that'll be my attitude

1561
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 2: of I as a coach with the All Blacker go right,

1562
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no point going I wish he was better,

1563
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 2: he's not. So we need to you know, we need

1564
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: to find someone who can toss the ball round. I'm

1565
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: still I'm still saying that we'll beat Argentina two times.

1566
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: Anyone against that?

1567
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1568
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 15: No, no, should do?

1569
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 12: Should do? Yeah?

1570
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we still won won apiece for South Africa.

1571
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: Anyone argue with me and still beat the Australians both times? Yes? Yes,

1572
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: so we'll be rugby champions this year. Am I correct?

1573
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 12: There you go?

1574
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 15: Well a safe place.

1575
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: Did you see the NFL by the way Friday? What

1576
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 2: was on preseason Chargers lines?

1577
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 15: What does your life descended into absolute? You're watching NFL

1578
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 15: preseason games.

1579
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 21: On way to watch the Greyhounds? Did you get to

1580
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 21: go one kettle one kettle downy NFL?

1581
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 15: We're trying to tune into the Eddington Dogs and.

1582
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 2: You couldn't get the dogs. Nice to see you guys.

1583
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: At six twenty it's eight the mic Hosking Breakfast with

1584
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs.

1585
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: Did they I wish I'd done it a lot sooner?

1586
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 11: Now?

1587
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: These are the words that the VEDA team are hearing

1588
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: a lot more these days from the residents once they've

1589
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 2: moved into their living world community. It's because where the

1590
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: support of the r VDA team, the residents take control

1591
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 2: come up with ideas and initiatives around new activities and interest.

1592
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 2: So whatever your interest or hobby, you are encouraged to

1593
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: bring it to an r VEDA community because you bound

1594
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: to find others who are interested as well. So it's life,

1595
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: your life, your way, that's what they say. It's life

1596
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: your way. R Vida's life your Way means a whole

1597
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 2: host of resident led activities. Got the clubs and their

1598
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: villages are you find community Gardner's quilting patchwork groups, singing groups,

1599
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: beer brewing clubs, at classes, strength and balanced sessions. You'll

1600
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: find a unique range of activities and clubs on offer

1601
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: individual to each of the thirty four r VIDA Living

1602
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: World communities across this beautiful cune of ours. It's all

1603
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: at r VA dot co dot m Z r Vita

1604
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: is a r v I d A by the way,

1605
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: so you can find out more about these communities the

1606
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: one nearest to you book of visits book for several

1607
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: have a look and see which one fits you. Are

1608
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: VEDA dot Co dot m ZSK Mike must watch Max

1609
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: for Staffing with Chris Harris with Ford YEP talked about

1610
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: that last week on the program. It is a promo

1611
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: for Ford their GDT, the Mustang GTT, but it's very

1612
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: very good piece of work, Lawson. What Lawson is doing

1613
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: Mike for a New Zealand is amazing.

1614
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 10: I couldn't agree with you more.

1615
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: The Brady program, by the way, is a real interesting insight.

1616
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: Although in episode one, for all of the talk of

1617
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: what Brady brings, you know, he's a winner and he

1618
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: can tell what a great team is and I'm a

1619
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: visionary and all that stuff. First thing they did, and

1620
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know this because I'd forgotten and I don't

1621
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 2: follow third division or whatever it is football, they hired

1622
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 2: Wayne Rooney. So the first thing they did is sack

1623
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: the coach. And they hired Wayne Rooney, who's about the

1624
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 2: most useless coach in the history of useless coaches, and

1625
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: of course before the end of the season they sacked him.

1626
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: So so far, not so good. But it's a really

1627
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: interesting insight into how the community responds when the Americans

1628
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 2: come to town and it's ongoing morning Mike Hungarian Qualifying

1629
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: produced the closest Q three and F one history, with

1630
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: only zero point five four to three separating the top ten.

1631
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: So that's very much endorsed. What Andrews says, you know,

1632
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 2: we're Liam. It's so pointy that point, he end, it's embarrassing.

1633
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: So the March yesterday in Sydney they went to court.

1634
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised they were allowed to do it,

1635
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: but the pro Palestinian thing. They went to court. They

1636
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: won the right to close the bridge down and walk

1637
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 2: across it, and apparently ninety thousand did. And I saw

1638
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: some pictures and who would know whether it's ninety thousand

1639
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 2: or seventy six, two hundred and fifty. Anyway, it was

1640
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: pouring with rain. It was a miserable Sunday. And being

1641
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: a First World city, when the bridge is closed in Sydney,

1642
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 2: you do have a tunnel alternative, so you've got actually

1643
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 2: two ways to go from the north Shore to the city,

1644
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: which I thought, geez, that's that's a clever idea. I

1645
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 2: wonder if anyone's actually thought of that here is obviously no.

1646
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Steve about this and other matters

1647
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: after the news, which is next you're used, Tog said.

1648
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 14: Person Where.

1649
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 19: Personnie, the Breakfast show, Kiwi's Trust to stay in the know,

1650
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 19: the mic Hosking Breakfast with Range Rover leading by example

1651
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 19: news Togs dead b but just.

1652
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: Release is the government's new plan for nce A. It's

1653
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: as predicted, it's sort of going back to what it

1654
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: used to be, and I'm not one hundred percent it's

1655
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the problem with the NCEEA was the moment

1656
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: when you said to people you can pick any subject

1657
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: you want. That's good if you're driven and focused and

1658
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: you know what you want to do, and you pick

1659
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 2: a series of subjects that best suits you. If you're

1660
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: not driven or focused and you're just kind of hanging

1661
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: around at school until you can leave, then you pick

1662
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: dance and drama and every other thing that gives you

1663
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: an easy credit. And that's where it's all gone wrong.

1664
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: So what they're going to do is they're going to

1665
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: remove level one. They're going to require students to take

1666
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 2: English and maths at year eleven, so that's compulsory again,

1667
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: set a foundation award in numeracy and literacy. They're going

1668
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: to replace NCAA Levels two and three with two new qualifications,

1669
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Certificate of Education at year twelve and

1670
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Advanced Certificate of Education at year thirteen.

1671
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 2: It requires you to take five subjects past at least

1672
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: four to get that certificate. Marking's going to come out

1673
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: of one hundred with grades that make sense, like an

1674
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: ABCD or an EC. You know where you're at. They're

1675
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 2: going to link up and this is smart bit of

1676
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: vocational pathways as well, because not everyone's an academic genius.

1677
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: Some people want to be mechanics and sparks and all

1678
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 2: of that's you're going to do your schooling along with

1679
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. New qualifications will be underpinned by

1680
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 2: a new national curriculum for years nine through thirteen that

1681
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: will clearly outline what students need to learn in each

1682
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: subject when providing more consistency. So that'll that's anced I

1683
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: think they're going to do it at nine. That'll go

1684
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: out for a month's worth of consultation and then they'll

1685
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: kick that off. I'm assuming by the beginning of the

1686
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 2: school year of twenty twenty seven, twenty two to nine.

1687
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends at Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

1688
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

1689
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 2: Say, Brian, how are you this morning? Good? A, I'm

1690
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 2: very well. Now they said what did they say? They say?

1691
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 2: Ninety thousand or whatever it was?

1692
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 8: Was it?

1693
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 12: Do you reckon Taylor two cities. We're talking about the

1694
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 12: pro Palestine marches in Melbourne and Sydney yesterday. Yes, it

1695
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 12: was pouring rain in Sydney, so something's going on there.

1696
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 12: Ninety thousand is what the figure they've settled on. That

1697
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 12: was one hundred reported last night, but the morning newspapers

1698
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 12: are saying ninety and in Melbourne it was three thousand.

1699
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 12: So you've got to ask yourself the question. Were there

1700
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 12: people who turned out in Sydney yesterday just because they

1701
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 12: could march across the Harbor Bridge when it was shut?

1702
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 12: And I suspect in many cases that was exactly what happened.

1703
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 12: There was the upfront famous faces. Julian assanj appeared out

1704
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 12: of nowhere. I don't know where he's been since he

1705
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 12: got released. You know, he was in that embassy in

1706
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 12: London for many years, came back to Australia, hasn't been seen.

1707
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 12: He was there yesterday front and center, as was former

1708
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 12: Foreign Minister and New Southwest Premier Bob car and Sokkaru

1709
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 12: Craig Foster. One of the problems was just behind those three,

1710
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 12: which included a green senator marine feruki. Someone was holding

1711
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 12: up a photograph of the Iranian leader HANMANI standing there

1712
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 12: with a rifle. It's the posters and stuff that was

1713
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 12: held up. That really was the problem. There was no

1714
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 12: agro yesterday on the Sydney Harbor Bridge. They marched across

1715
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 12: and then of course met four or five hours of

1716
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 12: massive chaos in the traffic. Melbourn is the protest capital

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Speaker 12: of Australia. Three thousand turned out. Among that three thousand,

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Speaker 12: there's some pretty hardcore people. They got right up into

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Speaker 12: the faces of Victorian police who got the right squad

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Speaker 12: out and the mounted police and stop them from getting

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Speaker 12: onto the King Street bridge. They were burning Australian flags,

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Speaker 12: which the only reason you do that is to upset

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Speaker 12: people completely, and that's what they've done. They were chanting

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Speaker 12: debt to Australia.

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Speaker 2: Will you surprised the court? I mean? And does the

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Speaker 2: set a precedent? I mean, were you surprise the court

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01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: gave them the go ahead? I mean? And what does

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01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: that say every time you want to run a march,

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 2: now you can run it across the bridge.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 12: I need to be a bit careful here, But I

1732
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 12: looked up the Justice Belinda Rigg, knowing that i'd be

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01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 12: speaking to you this morning. She as a lawyer, had

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Speaker 12: a career involving working for legal Aid Aboriginal legal service

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01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 12: in Australia. She was the public defender, which meant that

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01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 12: she was paid by the taxpayers to defend people who

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01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 12: couldn't afford their own lawyers in working in legal aid,

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01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 12: and she talked about protests being the right of people.

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01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 12: I mean, you're right, it just means at any time

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01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 12: anyone wants to go anywhere. Now the president, you've got

1741
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 12: a surprise in court judge saying yeah, okay, no worries,

1742
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 12: we'll shut the brig.

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01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: But it's good about the right to protest. No one

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: sees you can't protest, just not across a singular piece

1745
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: of infrastructure that buggers up your entire day for the

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01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: rest of the world.

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01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 12: Correct in the do it in the park somewhere from

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01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 12: exaal Centennial Park in Sydney's ideal.

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Speaker 17: It's huge.

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Speaker 12: He could walk around that twenty five times and no

1751
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 12: one would care.

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01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: Exactly this working from home thing, I mean, do people

1753
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 2: welcome that? Are you so far gone in Melbourne that

1754
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: every time she says something wacky you go, yeah, just

1755
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: send it. Good on you.

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Speaker 12: Well, it seems that's the case. This was the Labor

1757
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 12: Party conference on the weekend. One of the motions was

1758
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 12: legalized cannabis, all sorts of crazy stuff. But the Premier,

1759
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 12: just Senor Allen, got up and made a speech and

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01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 12: said she intends to legislate, which she doesn't have the

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01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 12: power to do, actually, that it become a legal right

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01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 12: to work from home two days at least two days

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01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 12: a week. Now the working from home is covered under

1764
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 12: the fair At which is a federal peace of legislation,

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01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 12: and so she would have to override the federal government

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01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 12: to have that happen. So I suspect what she did

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01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 12: is she made this speech and thought, I've got an

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Speaker 12: election coming up in November next year. What was successful

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 12: in beating Peter Dutton. Oh, he said that he would

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01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 12: make everyone go back to work, which was untrue. What

1771
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 12: he said was he would force public servants who are

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01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 12: paid by the Commonwealth to go back to work and

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01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 12: not work from home. So she thinks there's votes in it.

1774
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 12: She tossed it out there yesterday, hopes that it will

1775
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 12: percolate along until November next year and win her votes.

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01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 11: As simple as that.

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01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: The trade thing we got fifteen and we are peeved

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01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: to beat the band you got ten? Is that a

1779
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: win for Elbanezi or was it just going to happen

1780
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: no matter what, you know, Trump made his mind up

1781
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: and that was the ind of that.

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01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 12: I think Trump just sort of likes Australia. He doesn't

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01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 12: think about it much. Ten percent was good. We opened

1784
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 12: up to the American beef and in his you know,

1785
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 12: very straightforwardway, Trump thought, okay, we'll just leave it at ten.

1786
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 12: I mean, it's the people that effects of Americans, not us.

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01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, but yeah it does. But I mean you're

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01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 2: selling to the Americans, and the harder it is to

1789
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: sell to the Americans, the worst it is for you guys.

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Speaker 12: I guess so. But ten cents the lowest level of

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01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 12: tariff unless you go to zero, and so we're going, okay,

1792
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Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know what Chile is, but Chile.

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01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 12: I suspect Chile's wine is going to be more expensive

1794
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 12: than ours now, and so we'd be happy about that exactly.

1795
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: Oscar, I don't know if you saw the race, but Oscar,

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01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: they stuck Lando on hards and they said you want

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01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: to go all the way, and Oscar Jez was a

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01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: corner away from getting them.

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Speaker 12: I'm going to be controversially here. The English engineers in

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01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 12: the McLaren outfit are determined to have Oscar win the title.

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01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1802
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 12: They're cheating to keep him from claiming victory in the

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01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 12: world title. I mean, twenty four laps from the end,

1804
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 12: they till not Oscar's going to go in and change tires.

1805
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 12: I meant, seriously, yeah, but.

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01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: But he was not. He was nine seconds down and

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01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: the only way he was going to get paced, he

1808
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: was the only way he's going to get paced was

1809
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 2: to get some mediums on which he got and Lando

1810
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: was on the hards and so it was you know,

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01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: I mean, as much as I want Oscar to win

1812
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: as well, I think you're pushing that one up hills down. Well,

1813
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 2: we're more interested in Liam obviously.

1814
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 12: Well obviously they're cheating. They're trying to cheat Oscar out

1815
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 12: of it. He's got his summer break to come. Now

1816
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 12: you watch what happens. What it No matter what Lando knows,

1817
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 12: he can put this in the vault and pull it out. Okay,

1818
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 12: Lando Knowles would be world champion, not Oscar because they

1819
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 12: don't want him to win.

1820
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: He's okay, all right, we'll see it and we'll see

1821
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Speaker 2: you wednesday. Everyone's a conspiracy theorist, aren't they step Price

1822
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Speaker 2: out of Australia And once again, I really if you

1823
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: haven't seen the race, even though you know the result,

1824
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: it's worth watching. It's a good race. Eight forty five The.

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Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Ready So

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Speaker 1: how it by news Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be Hi, Mike. The education changes to when CEA

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Speaker 2: sound very much like my education in Australia, where you

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Speaker 2: needed to get four subjects in your final years to

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01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: get to UNI and you could not get to years

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01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: twelve and thirteen without passing English and maths. Kids went

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01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 2: to apprenticeships earlier and were earning and many went on

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: to manage small businesses. So let's hope it works unless

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01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 2: the Teachers' Union and like many of my kids suffered

1835
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: the NCEEA And all I can say is, thank goodness,

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01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: it's going to change. Thank you. Well, listen, it's good

1837
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: and it's very similar to my schooling. And you're going

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01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: back to the eighties and that was you couldn't go

1839
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: ahead to the next year until you passed whatever it

1840
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: was you were going for, and that's why I dropped

1841
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: several subjects. I can't I can't remember what it was

1842
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 2: I took up music in the fifth form because of

1843
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: failed tech drawing in the fourth form, and so I thought,

1844
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 2: I'll just pick another subject. But you certainly couldn't get

1845
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 2: You needed four or five subjects, and you needed to

1846
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: get if you were going to get internally assessed. I

1847
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: don't think I mentioned in the piece. They don't mention

1848
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: much about internal assessment. It'll be interesting to see the

1849
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 2: final detail. But unless you got internally assessed, I think

1850
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: in my particular year to get university entrants, you needed

1851
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: thirty five or above. If you got thirty five or above,

1852
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: you got it internally, you know, accredited, as they called it,

1853
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: and if you didn't, you had to set the exam.

1854
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: So I ended up getting in my philosophy, which was

1855
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 2: to do as little as possible to get the hell

1856
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 2: out of school as fast as it possibly could. I

1857
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 2: ended up getting thirty seven out of whatever was I needed.

1858
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: So I got it. So we'll see what the reaction is.

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01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 13: Is tick drawing still a thing to do? A question

1860
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 13: about people taking tech?

1861
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Speaker 2: It'll be called something different these days.

1862
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 13: But it'd be graphic, something would work well. It seemed

1863
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 13: to be a big push to get us to all

1864
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 13: be architects exactly.

1865
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 2: I mean there still will be. It's just called something different.

1866
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: Would work. Metal work with subjects tech drawing was a subject,

1867
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: music and that, and you had to do maths and

1868
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: English and as science. So I noticed in that there's

1869
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: nothing in science, so you had to do maths, English

1870
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 2: and science.

1871
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Speaker 13: So by the time I think we really believe in

1872
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 13: science anymore, nothing or.

1873
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: Not not with climate change if you seen climate change

1874
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: lately exactly. So you so you did five subjects. Smart

1875
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 2: kids did six, but you did five subjects. So by

1876
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: the time you got your three compulsories, you really only

1877
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 2: had to choose two. And of the two white shows,

1878
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: I failed one, so I had to pick another one.

1879
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 2: That's how that worked. And then I went onto the

1880
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 2: fifth for music, and I failed that as well.

1881
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 13: So you criticized kids for doing drama and so forth.

1882
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 13: I did drama in sixth form, did you get it?

1883
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 13: And performance music yeah?

1884
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 2: Did you get it?

1885
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 12: Yes?

1886
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 13: But then there was no option to take it in

1887
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 13: seventh form exactly. So then I suddenly found myself taking

1888
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 13: both statistics and calculus.

1889
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 2: As it's starting at the seventh form.

1890
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 13: Well, no, because there was nothing, you know, there was

1891
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 13: the subjects I'd taken before didn't lead to anything. So

1892
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 13: because I'd done sixth form maths.

1893
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 2: So you could suddenly do calculus. And yeah, look.

1894
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 13: Where I mean, mister Means will tell you that I

1895
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 13: certainly couldn't do calculus.

1896
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look where it led you.

1897
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, now I can Now I can count backwards in

1898
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 13: time most of the time.

1899
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: And I can almost tell the time it's nine to nine.

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Speaker 1: Make Costing Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities News, togs Haad be.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Oprah. If your interest is coming back

1902
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Speaker 2: to the country this December, shehes at Spark, which is

1903
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Speaker 2: an Auckland Tickets are on sale this Friday, but if

1904
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: we've got some on our Facebook page and Insta pages,

1905
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: if you want to go in there and we'll put

1906
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Speaker 2: you in the drawing and maybe make an announcement on Friday. Mike,

1907
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 2: tech drawing is still calls called heritage drawing now and

1908
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: that hard to believe. My daughter's doing tech drawing, Mike,

1909
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: it's called DBC Digital, So what is it? Was it

1910
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: DBC Digital and Visual or is it heritage drawing? I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, let's stop making stuff up.

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Speaker 15: Mike.

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Speaker 2: You've made my day. I failed tech drawing at Limward two.

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Speaker 2: I always thought it was the teacher, so we must

1915
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: have had the same one at Linward High School. Yeah,

1916
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: it's school swum. I mean if I hadn't had bad

1917
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 2: teachers in a dreadful school, I would have passed everything. Well,

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Speaker 2: so I tell myself. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of push back this morning on Jimmy Barnes.

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Speaker 2: The logis were held last night. The logis are the

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Speaker 2: sort of the tele awards, and you have the gold

1923
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Speaker 2: LOGI and a woman from I make It It's Home

1924
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 2: Away or Neighbors or whatever. She won. That was nice.

1925
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Speaker 2: Everyone thought that was a nice thing. And then you

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01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: have silver logis. Fisks seem to win everything like that's

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01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: still a thing. And it was like actor actress supporting

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Speaker 2: actors supporting actress, Best Comedy. It was just amazing. If

1929
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Speaker 2: you haven't seen First Gets well worth watching. It's very good.

1930
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Speaker 11: Uh.

1931
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Speaker 2: Anyway, he was performing old Jimmy. Here he is, who's

1932
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: complaining lots or lots? Is that lots? There are a

1933
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,959
Speaker 2: bunch of wings, aren't They don't understand.

1934
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Speaker 13: And unfortunately, as I recall the song. It does a

1935
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Speaker 13: ramp up towards the end.

1936
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Speaker 2: He's already rapped and rapped too soon.

1937
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Speaker 13: And unfortunately we don't have that audio.

1938
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Speaker 2: No, because that's it's gear block. So we did we

1939
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 2: VP in that or something? How do we get hold.

1940
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Speaker 13: I'm assuming barns as people have scrubbed it from the internet.

1941
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Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Anyway? So he was at

1942
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Speaker 2: the Logo Awards last night night. There's nothing wrong with that.

1943
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Speaker 2: He's sixty nine, has had a lot of health issues.

1944
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Speaker 2: Of course. Old Jimmy's a very nice guy. Had him

1945
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Speaker 2: on the program any number of times, and every time

1946
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Speaker 2: we have him on the program, I thoroughly enjoy his company.

1947
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Speaker 2: So next time he's on, I'll say something along the

1948
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Speaker 2: lines of, don't you listen to those Assie moners, Jimmy,

1949
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Speaker 2: you were good at the logis or words to that effect.

1950
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Speaker 2: They said he's in coherent and off keyp But let's

1951
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Speaker 2: be honest. I've received the same criticism over the years,

1952
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Speaker 2: and like Jimmy, I just keep on keeping on.

1953
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Speaker 13: He sounded better there than he did when I saw

1954
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Speaker 13: him playing support for Tina Turner back in the day.

1955
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Speaker 2: Did you back in the day Glen.

1956
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Speaker 13: Yeah, he came out after he'd done his opening set

1957
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Speaker 13: later on and Tina's set to do simply the best

1958
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Speaker 13: with her. He'd obviously hitting the bottle quite hard.

1959
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Speaker 2: And those were the days, Those were the days. Remember

1960
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Speaker 2: when we used to really stand up. We used to

1961
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Speaker 2: hit the bottle quite hard before the show. But we

1962
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Speaker 2: don't anymore, or do we? Who are you calling? We

1963
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Speaker 2: back tomorrow from sexyteen.

1964
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1965
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1966
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