1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: The Working class Man is back. Jimmy Barnes. He's bringing 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: his most famous songs to our shores in the first 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: half of next year. Most successful artist in Australian chart history. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: And he's long loved New Zealand because we showed his 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: band Cold Chisel love right from the very beginning. But 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: this time it's a solo tour he's going to be doing. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: He's backed up by his Cold Chisel bandmte Ian Moss, 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: who's also going to be performing solo. It's called for 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: the Working class Man Tour and it's going to mark 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: the fortieth anniversary of the song's release and the album's release, 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Barns is with us. Now. 12 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: Hi, Jimmy, Oh are you hell? Are you well? 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm very well. How are you though? Because you've had 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: the health stuff. 15 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm fighting fitness. I mean I've had one hundred 16 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: thousand dollars one hundred thousand mile service, you know. I mean, yeah, 17 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: I'm really healthy. I'm good. I'm swimming a kilumba of 18 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: most days now and working out every day and I'm 19 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: I'm ready at rock. Yeah. 20 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: But do you know what? Do you know why I'm 21 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: asking this? Because you had the heart surgery and the 22 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: infection around about the same time that my husband had 23 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: exactly the same experience, and you're playing it down. I 24 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: mean what you went through was massive. 25 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Oh it was very painful and I nearly died. I 26 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: was close to death. Staff. I got staff infection in 27 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: my heart and it was really the operation I had 28 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: went for about seven hours. It was sort of the 29 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: surgeon here, Paul Jans, who's probably one of the best 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: in the world, said it was like it was more 31 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: dangerous than a transplant. So so, you know, it was 32 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: a major work. But I just figure, you know, I 33 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: was in I was in great hands, and you know, 34 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: I left, you know, and like I said, I've got 35 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: all new parts and all the stuff, so I should 36 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: be going for another twenty years. 37 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: What made it more dangerous than a transplant. 38 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Because there was with the transplant, they take it all out. 39 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: These these were internal workings. They had to add a 40 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: valve aerotic valve replacement I had. They had to repair 41 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: the mitro valve go under their back and repair the 42 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: mitro valve. They had to take out where the valves 43 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: are seated because the virus had eaten into it. So 44 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: they had to transplant all this flesh there and then 45 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: I think it's fourteen centimeters of aorta had been eaten 46 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: away by this bug. And literally, if they hadn't done that, 47 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: I could been you know, I could have been singing 48 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: and bulged and popped it and died on spot. You know. 49 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: It was like it was very just. It was long, intense, 50 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: and you needed you know, it's a team of surgeons 51 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: as you put you know because your husband done it, 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: but there's not the the physical pain of having your chest. 53 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: You know, price to open is incredibly us the second 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: time I've had it, so I'd want a two thousand 55 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: and seven as well. 56 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because they cut through, don't they. They do 57 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: the whole. 58 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: And I literally when I had done two thousand and seven, 59 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: I as I was going into the hospital, being cheeky 60 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: as I was, I had a digital camera. I gave 61 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: it to the nurse and said take a few snaps, 62 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: you know, and I was thinking they're going to get 63 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: the machines and all that sort of stuff. About three 64 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: days after I got out of intensive care, I saw 65 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: my camera and I managed to reach for it and 66 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: they're taken photographs inside my chest and it's this like 67 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: they're just it's like a carjack ass, like medieval. 68 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: But you know what, people I think don't appreciate about 69 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: what you've been through, almost dying from an in fiction. 70 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: All of the trauma of the surgery is that it 71 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: takes years to really recover from it. But you were 72 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: back on stage with him what like three or four 73 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: six months. 74 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: It started rehearsal seven weeks after surgery with cultures and 75 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: went on cultures or two. I just had to I 76 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: had to be really careful. I was really you know, 77 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: I had great physios. I did it. And the doctor said, 78 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: when when you're doing physio, you've got to do exactly 79 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: what they say. You can't do too much, you can't 80 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: do do too little. So for the first you know, 81 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: three months, I did exactly what they said. Every day 82 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: I had a physio with me on the road, so 83 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: he would check every day and check had that and 84 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: had the hit at the same time. So, uh, it's 85 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: you know, And once I got strong enough to say 86 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: you can go a bit harder, I pushed myself. And 87 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: besides that, I was you know Jane, and my wife's 88 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: the best nurse in the world. She was she's been 89 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: through this before and she she was feeding me. And 90 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: every morning I get up and have the juices from 91 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: growing in an organic garden, you know, I had a 92 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: fresh vegetables, fresh everything grown, fruit from our own trees, 93 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: all organic, and so I was I was just getting 94 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: everything was pumped, Everything was goodness, It was love. It 95 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: was gonna be pumped into me. And everything was cooked 96 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: with love. And I think that you know that that 97 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: thing about you know, it's like like singing. If you 98 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: sing with love, people hear it. If you cook with love, 99 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: people can taste it and people can feel it, and 100 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: the goodness is there. And so I was surrounded by 101 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: by really great people and great love. There's a lot 102 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: of care and you know, just so many well wishes 103 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: from so many punters out there who are just you know, 104 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: wishing me the best along the way sort of. They 105 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: didn't want me to fall apart, so you know, and luckily. 106 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: The other thing is luckily when it happened. You know, 107 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: leading up to that, I've gone through five years. Prior 108 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: to that, I've done through a lot of changes in 109 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: my life, and I'd got really healthy. I was swimming, 110 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, miles every day and and all that sort 111 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: of stuff. So the doctor said, if I hadn't been 112 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: as healthy as I was when I went in, I 113 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: might not have made it. 114 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: So you think it hasn't changed your perspective on life? Oh? 115 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, And every moment's precious and every you know, 116 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: and you know, and you really you can't take things 117 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: for granted. You do have to make an effort. You 118 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: do have to. You know, it's important. You know, I 119 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: want to be around to see my grandkids grow. I 120 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: want to be around and you know, and you know, 121 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: I want to, you know, look at the sunset with 122 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: my with my wife. You know, I'm going to hold 123 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: a hand and you know, and feel that warmth. And 124 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: to do that you have to you have to take 125 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: the right steps. 126 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: Now, Jimmy, tell me what made you decide to do 127 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: a tour of this album forty years on? What brought 128 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: this on for you? 129 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: Well? It was it was such a record, was so 130 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 2: pivotal in my life and in my career. This songs 131 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: on this record changed my life forever. I remember making 132 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: it forty years ago in nineteen eighty five. I was 133 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: I'd come out the back of coach as Or at 134 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: the end of December eighty three when Coaches were finished. 135 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I don't know how I'm going 136 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: to follow this band, such a great rock and roll band. 137 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: You know, I was I wasn't a songwriter, you know, 138 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: I just started writing songs. I've had Don Walker, who's 139 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: the best songwrite in the world, I think, writing songs 140 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: for Colch as well. So I was terrified, but you know, 141 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: and I left Coach as well. February eighty four. I 142 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: went up with I've got a rock and roll, little 143 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: little band or just guitars, no keyboards, anthem. It was 144 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: real simple, and I went and played all these little 145 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: clubs all the way up queens like North Queensland and back, 146 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: and over the period of a month, I sort of 147 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: phund my feet as it just says. You know, it 148 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: wasn't wasn't pretty, and it wasn't sort of flash. It 149 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: was just raw and it had emotion. And so I 150 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: made a record and I put that out and I thought, 151 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, this will just sort of bridge the gap 152 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: between the people. Won't to compare me to Coaches. And 153 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: that record went to number one and I was body 154 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: swerve and I was so that was really lucky, and 155 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: it sort of gave me a bit of breathing room. 156 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: But in what it did was it allowed me to 157 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: sit back and go, This next record I make is 158 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: the one that's either going to make or break me. 159 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: So I've got to make something great here. So I 160 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: went to America to write a lot of songs and 161 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: to do a lot of work for this record. I 162 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: was working with Bob Clear Mountain, who's a record producer 163 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: who's one of the best in the world. I redid 164 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: all the songs from Body, Swerve and and packed them 165 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: up for this, and then I needed a bunch of 166 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: other songs, and so I wrote and wrote with people. 167 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: You know, I've made a lot of friends over the years. 168 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: Mick Fleetwood, you know, was a dear friend of mine 169 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: and I love making. He's one of the sweetest guys 170 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: in the world, but also one of the great drummers, 171 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: you know. So Mick, Mick was Mick was around and 172 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: Mix said I want to get involved, and he was 173 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: introducing me to players. Billy Burnett, who was the nephew 174 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: of Dorsey Burnett of the Rock and Roll Trio, which 175 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: is one of the great rockabilly bands in the world, 176 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: who I loved. So Billy became friends of mine, and 177 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: we were there and uh you know we uh we 178 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: uh we were still of good in the studio and 179 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: recorded a few tracks. I started writing some songs I 180 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: wrote with a guy called Chas Sanford. Chas was a 181 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: was a huge writer at the time, and he'd written 182 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, talked to Me for sev Nix and Missing 183 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: You for John Waite. He'd been writing songs for Don 184 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: Henley and and he gave me a song called a 185 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: Diaty be with You Tonight. And I remember getting that 186 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: song and thinking, this is a really good song. This 187 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: is a big step in the right direction from my 188 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: record so starting to gain a bit of confidence. A 189 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: week later I was in the record company in Geffrid 190 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: Records with the A and R guy, and he said 191 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: had been contacted by Steve van Zandt. And Steve van 192 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: Zant was the guitar player from Bruce's band, Bruce Springsteen's band, 193 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: and that was a huge fan of Stevie van Zantz 194 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: and he said to stevee who loves your voice and 195 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: wants to write a song for you. So him and 196 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: Steve Jordan, who is now the drummer from the Rolling Stones, 197 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: I got together and sent me a demo of a 198 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: song they wrote together, and it's like Steve van Zandt 199 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: playing an acoustic guitar and singing into a dictaphone with 200 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Steve Jordan playing drums on the back of his couch, 201 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: and it sounded just amazing. And so that was right 202 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: the night away. So I had these two songs under 203 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: my belt and I knew it was going to be good. 204 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: I wrote a song called without Your Love. It's a 205 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: love song for Jane, my wife, and I went and 206 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: recorded it with with Mick Fleetwood and a whole bunch 207 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: of really great players. And then the last sort of 208 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: big piece of the puzzle came when I met with 209 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: a guy called Jonathan Kane. And so Jonathan was he's 210 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: been in a band called The Babies, who I really liked, 211 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: and he was in Journey. And I did know a 212 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: lot about Journey, but I knew they were massive in America, 213 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: but they never they never translated to Australia, so we 214 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: didn't know him much here. But anyway, Jonathan came in 215 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: and we were talking and he was asking he obviously 216 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 2: hadn't beaten in Australia or New Zealand, he was asking 217 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: about what it was like to tour down down this 218 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: part of the world, and I was explaining how the 219 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: audience is a pretty pretty tough you know. If you 220 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: don't like it, it's like, you know, they'll throw things back. Yeah, 221 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: and if they like you, they love you. And I said, 222 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: you know, the soul of the earth. People that came 223 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: out on a Saturday night kicked their bloody. He was 224 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: up and then you know, Monday morning, the back of 225 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: work and they're looking after their family so they get 226 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: their care and he must say he took it all in. 227 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: I could see him and he went away, and a 228 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: week later he sent me a song working Classmen, and 229 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: I remember hearing the demo and thinking, I think this 230 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: song's going to define my career literally and uh so 231 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: I finished recording those songs. By the time I'd finished 232 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 2: recording both, you know, all those songs, I knew I 233 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: had a really good record. I felt. I felt I 234 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: had a really good record on my on my hands, 235 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: and it was just now it was how to get 236 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: it across to people. I came back to Australia and 237 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: Michael Getinski, my dear, a friend and my partner in crime, 238 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: who you know who I loved daily. Michael and I 239 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: sat and we had so many songs. I had to 240 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: be a double record. And he's going, we're talking at 241 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: the time, and I remember a double record in nineteen 242 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: eighty five. I think it might have been forty five 243 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: dollars or something like that was expensive and it's too expensive. 244 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: You know, people are struggling, you know. It was like 245 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: it's like the times are now, you know, people were 246 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: making hard times back to buy records, and so we 247 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: did everything we could. We pulled favors from the art department, 248 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: so we did all this and we managed to get 249 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: the record and we and we got we got them 250 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: so they could put it out at nineteen ninety nine, 251 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: so it was under twenty dollars. And to get a 252 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: double album under twenty dollars, and I said, well we should, 253 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: we should make a point of this and just say 254 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: this is for the working class people. So we called 255 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: it for the working class man. And I think the 256 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: fact that we came from the the it wasn't a gimmick. 257 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't sort of trying to you know, trying to 258 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: play people. Was trying to make things worth while for 259 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: them and thinking thinking about the situation of the public, 260 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: they all sort of jumped on it and it ended 261 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: up just going crazy. It was you know, sold six 262 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: hundred thousand copies and it was a record that was 263 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: sort of that literally changed my life. 264 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing it live. Jimmy listen 265 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: look after yourself. 266 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: Yes, I will. Nice to talk to you. 267 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, brilliant to talk to you. Jimmy Barnes, who'll be 268 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: bringing the fortieth anniversary of for the Working Classman the 269 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: album to New Zealand and'll be doing it in the 270 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: first half of next years. To keep an eye out 271 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: for that. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen 272 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: live to news talks. 273 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 274 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.