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Speaker 1: So actus as to a greater range of building materials.

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Speaker 1: As a step close to the Building Amendment, Build has

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Speaker 1: been introduced to Parliament. This is the one that came

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Speaker 1: out of the jib shambles a couple of years back.

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Speaker 1: The Building and Construction Minister is Chris Pink. Chris, morning

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Speaker 1: to you, good morning. Of all the things you guys

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Speaker 1: are doing around building, housing, land, et cetera in this country,

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Speaker 1: where does this sit in terms of importance and effectiveness?

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Speaker 1: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I think it's pretty important and pretty five

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Speaker 2: percent of the cost of construction is in materials, so

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Speaker 2: we can make a difference to that. But then it

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Speaker 2: goes alongside all the work that for example, Chris Bishop's

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Speaker 2: doing and freeing up the land in the first place,

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Speaker 2: other stuff that's going on in building a construction, so

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Speaker 2: around processes trying to make it easier and more affordable

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Speaker 2: and quicker to build some houses in this country.

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Speaker 1: How much theory versus reality is there? In other words,

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Speaker 1: are there a pile of products that are just sitting

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Speaker 1: waiting to come to the country that never have been

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Speaker 1: that will flood the market and suddenly the price drops?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I think that would be the optimistic view.

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Speaker 2: I think obviously we've got to be realistic about the

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Speaker 2: tech debt. There are barriers that exist naturally to importing

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Speaker 2: products in this country, so we're a long way away.

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Speaker 2: We've got a small market. We're trying to make it

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Speaker 2: a market that's a bit lesson, by the way, by

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Speaker 2: encouraging a bit of activity. So that again, that's part

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Speaker 2: of the overall picture of trying to make it easier

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Speaker 2: and quicker and cheaper to build in this country. So look,

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Speaker 2: it'll be somewhere between the perfect world and what we've

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Speaker 2: got now, but it'll be a step in the right direction,

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Speaker 2: and certainly it's going to be about price, but also

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Speaker 2: a little bit of innovation and competition. It'll make people

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Speaker 2: sharpening pencils here because otherwise they would fear that people

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Speaker 2: would find it worth their while to ship a lot

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Speaker 2: of products from Australia, the US and wherever else.

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Speaker 1: Small irony here. This comes a day after the final

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Speaker 1: reporting to Grenfell in Britain. What's to stop the sort

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Speaker 1: of products that cause Grenfell coming into the country and

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Speaker 1: be put on houses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lot, very fair question. So our requirement is that

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Speaker 2: the same standards or higher equivalent standards from overseas are

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Speaker 2: going to need to be met. So it's not an

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Speaker 2: exercise in reducing safety or quality or sustainability for that matter.

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Speaker 2: It's saying that if you're already dead equivalent level two

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Speaker 2: Zealand in countries that you know have equivalent standard systems,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, also that conditions in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: are suitable for the use of those products, then you're

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Speaker 2: going to be able to use them. Otherwise, you know,

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Speaker 2: it'll remain that the normal pathways for getting stuff checked

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Speaker 2: is going to continue to apply, which is very slow

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Speaker 2: in numbers.

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Speaker 1: Some much as a speaking of Sloane Compson, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: jib was twenty twenty two. How come does legislation take

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Speaker 1: so long? How come we're still here now and it's

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Speaker 1: still not passed and I'm assuming we'll be lucky to

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Speaker 1: have this passed by the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I count for the previous government, but certainly

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Speaker 2: that was a golden opportunity that they had to do

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Speaker 2: something about this product. To be fair, people have talked

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Speaker 2: about for years in the class. The board shortage or

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Speaker 2: crisis of a couple of years ago was just the

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Speaker 2: most obvious and well known example. So we've moved quickly

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Speaker 2: on having come into government and we've got legislation that

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Speaker 2: is that yesterday has been introduced to the House. You know,

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Speaker 2: we'll do that as quickly as possible, but at the

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Speaker 2: same time, because the detail is important for Green Cell

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Speaker 2: Tower and a related reason, we're not going to shorten

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Speaker 2: the leagier sort of process. So you know, in terms

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Speaker 2: of us coming in and moving quickly, we've done that

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Speaker 2: and we know that people are really looking forward to

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Speaker 2: that coming into effect.

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Speaker 1: Go well, well, have a good week in Chris pink

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