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Speaker 4: In a Kilton, New Zealand. Good morning and welcome to

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Speaker 4: news Talks, EDB. I'm Jack Tame with you through to

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Speaker 4: midday today. It is one of those awesome weekends where

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Speaker 4: if you don't like a certain sport, or you don't

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Speaker 4: like the result from a certain game in a certain sport,

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Speaker 4: then you can just move on to the next one.

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Speaker 4: So if you're a big cricket fan, a massive black

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Speaker 4: Caps fan, and all of a sudden you're thinking, you

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Speaker 4: know what, maybe I'm not actually a massive black Caps fan,

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Speaker 4: or at the very least, maybe I'm not a big

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Speaker 4: fan of this T twenty World Cup. Not to worry.

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Speaker 4: Super Rugby semi finals are on, And if you're not

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Speaker 4: a big Blues fan or no worry, because you've got

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Speaker 4: the Canes Chiefs this afternoon to get excited about. And hey,

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Speaker 4: if rugby's not your thing, the Euros have started. I

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Speaker 4: love the Euros so much. I love a big international

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Speaker 4: football competition for which we can get up in the

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Speaker 4: morning and watch games at times that aren't always incredibly inconvenient.

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Speaker 4: My brother in law said to me last night that

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Speaker 4: he reckoned Germany wasn't going to go very well in

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Speaker 4: the Euros. And my brother is a brother in law

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Speaker 4: is a massive, massive football fans. I'm feeling very very

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Speaker 4: very good this morning in d five to one over Scotland.

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Speaker 4: Brutal to say the least. So we're going to take

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Speaker 4: a look at that competition very shortly. Right now, it

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Speaker 4: is eight minutes past nine, Jack Tame d I sing

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Speaker 4: the freezer. That's it, that is it? You know, without doubt,

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Speaker 4: I always thought it was the worst possible domestic chore,

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Speaker 4: because you know, the tricky thing is, once you've successfully

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Speaker 4: the electricity, melted the water, where does it all go?

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Speaker 4: Where does the water go? I remember my mum running

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Speaker 4: a system with our big chest freezer when I was

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Speaker 4: towels and mops, baby baths even and still it took

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Speaker 4: her the whole weekend. But now you know what, I'm

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Speaker 4: not totally sure that de icing the freezer is still

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Speaker 4: top of the pops in miserable domestic jobs. And that

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Speaker 4: is the kind of sentence only ever uttered by someone

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Speaker 4: who has recently tried to fill a bean bag. Ugh

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Speaker 4: bean bags. Having a moment, I reckon they might be

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Speaker 4: and I just personally figured that having a versatile option

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Speaker 4: quite nice. When I searched them online, there were a

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Speaker 4: couple of different options for bean bags. For most you

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Speaker 4: But if you really wanted, you could spend a little

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Speaker 4: I thought, what do they take me for some kind

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Speaker 4: of sucker bean bags? It turns out actually have two bags.

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Speaker 4: So you fill the inner bag and then you put

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Speaker 4: got home. That was my first mistake. I began in

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Speaker 4: off the huge bag of beans two hundred liters of them.

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Speaker 4: As the scissor blades glided through the plastic, it was

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Speaker 4: As soon as I started pouring the beans, I inadvertently

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Speaker 4: It made them less staticky, but alas it did not

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Speaker 4: one thing my experience has taught me, filling a bean

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Speaker 4: least it's contained. Third time was a relative charm. It

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Speaker 4: to discover a couple of rogue beans hiding underneath some furniture.

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Speaker 4: I feel like they're going to keep popping up for

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Speaker 4: I can remind myself earnestly, Nah, I had to work

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Speaker 4: for this. Jack Tatuma ninety two. Ninety two is our

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Speaker 4: text number. If you're gonna fickus the message this morning.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget the standard text cost reply. You can email

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Speaker 4: me as well. Jacket Newstalks, headb dot co, dot Zen

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Speaker 4: and I reckon. It's a bean bag kind of weekend

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Speaker 4: between the rugby the cricket. Don't forget. The black Caps

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Speaker 4: are taking on U Gander just after midday today. Hopefully

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Speaker 4: they'll win that one. We've got the Worriers this evening

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Speaker 4: your thing, that's not a big deal either. We've got

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Speaker 4: a fantastic interview for you after ten o'clock this morning

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Speaker 4: with the star of this year's Armageddon expert. Armageddon is

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Speaker 4: on this weekend and John Barrowman is with us. He

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Speaker 4: played Captain Jack Harness, a heartness rather and doctor who

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Speaker 4: for years and he's yeah, he's lived a pretty amazing

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Speaker 4: life for the whole range of really interesting roles. So

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be with us after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Milon's gonna kick us off next Right now, it's

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Speaker 4: fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning,

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Speaker 4: and this is news Talk's EDB A little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of way to kick off your weekend, then with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and bepret dot co dot

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for your feedback. A lot of empathy

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Speaker 4: this morning, which I really appreciate.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 4: That's a classic poor you for goodness sake, though it's

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Speaker 4: obviously a two person job. I can't stop laughing. Jack,

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Speaker 4: good morning. Regarding your bean bag filling, the best way

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Speaker 4: foam chips attract the beans and it stops the bag

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Speaker 4: from collapsing. Having done several of them commercially, we found

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Speaker 4: that it's the best solution to fill up your bean bags,

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Speaker 4: says Barry from the back paddock. Very good, Jack, I

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Speaker 4: fully relate. Bean bag filling is an absolute nightmare. Jack says, Fiona,

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Speaker 4: I discovered a trick to take the static out of

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Speaker 4: styrene beans. Sprinkle inside the bag some talcum powder. The

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Speaker 4: beans no longer stick together, and you can pour them easily.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure why it works, but it surely does.

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Speaker 4: That's a great little tip. Okay, thank you very much, Fiona,

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Barry, thank you everyone who's flicking me in

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Speaker 4: a message. Ninety two. Ninety two is the text number

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Speaker 4: if you want to flick me a text. Kevin mill

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Speaker 4: is with us this morning, kilder Kevin.

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Speaker 6: Great laugh, great laugh about the bean bags?

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Speaker 4: Have you done it before?

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Speaker 6: No? No, I haven't. Actually, I don't think when bean

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Speaker 6: I don't think I could afford to buy one.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, it was quite a sort of desirable item now,

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Speaker 4: I mean the bean bags are pretty I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: a pretty reasonably priced compared to other household both.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I had no money back then.

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Speaker 4: No fair enough.

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Speaker 6: But that is very, very funny, and it sounds like

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Speaker 6: a pretty good idea. That about the what was it

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Speaker 4: So you put some foam chips in them? Was one tip.

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Speaker 4: The other tip was that you put the tal conpowder

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Speaker 4: And so after I'd managed to pull them all over

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Speaker 4: so you pick them up and I'm not very dexterous,

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Speaker 4: it was one of those things where I just I know,

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Speaker 4: I'm terrible at stuff like that, so I don't know

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Speaker 4: easily was running some podcasts on my phone while I

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Speaker 4: And that's something you've become rather passionate about, Kevin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jack, I love talk shows and interview programs. I

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Speaker 6: always have. I wish there was a Key Wee talk

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Speaker 6: show on New Zealand TV. I mean, you do longish

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Speaker 7: Of politics rightly.

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Speaker 6: One of my sons asked me a week or two

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Speaker 6: ago whether i'd listened to you being interviewed a couple

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Speaker 6: of years ago. I think it was on the Between

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Speaker 6: two Beers radio Podcasteah. Yeah, and between the Between two

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Speaker 6: Beers podcasts I think has been going for a couple

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Speaker 6: of years now, but I had never heard of it.

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Speaker 6: not quite really into a podcasts. I think they're actually

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Speaker 6: videoing the podcast and now say you can see them.

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Speaker 4: On YouTube as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, I listened to you being interviewed

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Speaker 6: all two hours of it.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's quite a long interview.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's there's a hell of a long interview.

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Speaker 6: I found it really interesting. I feel I know you

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Speaker 6: twice as well. Now, two hours may seem a long time,

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Speaker 6: but time flu. What is it like to be interviewed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I really really enjoyed the experience because

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Speaker 4: of Between two Beers, they're really thoughtful, lovely, you know,

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Speaker 4: what a weekend of sport we have. You got your euros,

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Speaker 4: really good gluten free products and incorporating more gluten free foods,

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Speaker 4: So she's gonna be with us before teen. Right now

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Speaker 4: it is twenty five minutes too.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I'm asking baby be you with Jack Saim through

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Speaker 10: the midday.

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Speaker 4: Jack totally agree with Kevin's comments this morning. Absolutely love

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Speaker 4: the Between Two Beers podcasts. It's brilliant. You got to

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Speaker 4: listen to the one with Mark Allis. I'm gut and

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Speaker 4: Beal's fantastic as well.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 4: I agree with Kevin. I I came in kind of

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Speaker 4: late to podcasts, but Between Two Beers I love sport

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Speaker 4: and they've got some amazing interviews with the likes of

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Speaker 4: Karen Reid and Ryan Fox. Steve Chu was really interesting

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Speaker 4: as well. Thanks for that, and thanks for your text

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Speaker 4: regarding beanbags. Heaves of them are come through. So if

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Speaker 4: you are thinking of getting a bean bag, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: share with you all of the top tips that the

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Speaker 4: crowd sourced advice for you this morning. Right now, though,

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Speaker 4: it is time to get our movie picks for this weekend,

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Speaker 4: the thing you'll be watching when relaxing in your beanbag

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Speaker 4: and Francesla Rudkin as well. One Haterncesca, good morning. You're

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Speaker 4: quite a tasteful person, do you feel like bean bags

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Speaker 4: are having a moment, having a moment. Yeah, I sort

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Speaker 4: of feel like they're sort of back in you know,

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Speaker 4: they sort of. There was about nineteen sixty eight they

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Speaker 4: were hot, and now twenty twenty four, bean bags are back, Baby.

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Speaker 11: No, bean bags have been back for a while, actually, Jack,

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Speaker 11: it depends on the age of the people that live

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Speaker 11: in your home, but especially outdoor bean bags have been

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Speaker 11: back for a while.

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Speaker 4: Outdoor bean bags definitely have been a thing for a while.

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Speaker 4: But I reckon your indoor bean bags are sort of.

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Speaker 12: You if you should get in an out of the

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Speaker 12: bean bag, Jack, Yes, yes, when we're talking about your

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Speaker 12: indoors versus your outdoors, really it's the inversus out In another.

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Speaker 4: Sense that matters. The Dockage Film Festival is kicking off

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Speaker 4: and we're gonna have a look at a couple of

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Speaker 4: films that are screening. There. Such an amazing festival, and

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm an absolute sucker for documentary, so I

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Speaker 4: love it. Let's start off with how are the Ashes

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Speaker 4: than Dust? Tell us about it?

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Speaker 11: Okay, So this is directed by Adam Lao who is

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Speaker 11: a video journalist. He lived and lived in Hong Kong

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Speaker 11: and he starts off this documentary by giving us a

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Speaker 11: quick stree lesson about how the UK transferred seigny back

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Speaker 11: to China in nineteen ninety seven. They had the sort

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Speaker 11: of one country tru system principle. He looks at how

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Speaker 11: in twenty and fourteen, Beijing started to sort of exert

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Speaker 11: influence on the governance of Hong Kong and they declared

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Speaker 11: that they wanted to approve candidates to lead Hong Kong

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Speaker 11: and things, and the people very much became very concerned that,

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Speaker 11: you know, that they wouldn't have transparent elections, and the

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Speaker 11: umbrella movement began. I'm sure people will remember the footage

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Speaker 11: of this. Then we kind of step up to twenty

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Speaker 11: nineteen and this is when that movement kind of grew again,

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Speaker 11: and I'm sure once again a lot of people will

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Speaker 11: remember the footage that came out of Hong Kong for

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Speaker 11: rebuties for pretty much over the space of the year.

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Speaker 11: And the reason that the movement stepped up was because

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Speaker 11: there was a murder case and China decided that they

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Speaker 11: would make an amendment to an existing law but meant

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Speaker 11: that a Hong Kong citizen could be tried in Taiwan

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Speaker 11: or in China if they felt free to in Hong

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Speaker 11: Kong people. Of course, we're very concerned about this because

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Speaker 11: China has quite different approach to human rights than they do.

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Speaker 11: And this led to a year of protest. So Andy

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Speaker 11: Law was part of this. He captured as he captured

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Speaker 11: the twenty fourteen protests, and he was right in the

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Speaker 11: middle of the twenty and nineteen protests. And I'm going

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Speaker 11: to be honest with you, Jack, this is absolutely exhausting,

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Speaker 11: this documentary, and it's just non stop starts as protests.

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Speaker 11: He takes you along with June as he started with protests,

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Speaker 11: with millions of people walking peacefully in the streets, singing together,

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Speaker 11: all coming together. At the end of these protests, the

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Speaker 11: young people would stay behind and they would clear up

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Speaker 11: all the mess on the roads because this was their home.

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Speaker 11: This is they loved Hong Kong. If you sort of

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Speaker 11: follow this protest throughout the year, it becomes riots, you

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Speaker 11: follow the police brutality. There are moments where the protesters

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Speaker 11: get out of control and beat the police. He captures

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Speaker 11: all this and it gets to a point at the

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Speaker 11: end whereby you know, Hong Kong City, Hong Kong is

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Speaker 11: just a collection of barricades where demonstrators and protesters rioters,

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Speaker 11: what if you'd like to call them a stuck in

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Speaker 11: places there are arrests going on, people are disappearing, and

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Speaker 11: he just takes you on this journey to show you

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Speaker 11: how how to control the God, at the same time

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Speaker 11: asking the question, what's my role as a journalist. I'm

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Speaker 11: standing here living, but I'm you know, I'm getting PTSD,

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Speaker 11: I'm getting shot at, I'm dealing with this toxics, tear gas.

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Speaker 11: So it's very much a tribute to those who have

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Speaker 11: been arrested, who are still undergoing court cases, who maybe

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Speaker 11: you know, we see or we don't see very often.

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Speaker 11: It is very much a tribute. This film comes together

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Speaker 11: really as sort of a tribute to the people who

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Speaker 11: put their lives on the line to fight for what

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Speaker 11: they really truly believed in and human rights in Hong Kong.

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Speaker 11: But my goodness, it's an exhausting journey getting going through this.

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Speaker 11: It's a really interesting firsthand look at just how as

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Speaker 11: humans we escalate and get out of control, and how

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Speaker 11: the Hong Kong governants sort of dug their feet in

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Speaker 11: and you know, and keep trying to happy.

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Speaker 4: Really fascinating yeah, okay, great sons. It sounds super interesting.

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Speaker 4: So that's rather be ashes than dust. And the great

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Speaker 4: thing about the Dockage Film Festival, of course, is that

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Speaker 4: they have lots of different stories. So for something completely different,

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Speaker 4: tell us about charcot Ah.

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Speaker 11: So this is the story of legendary t We's League

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Speaker 11: player Mark Graham, and the documentary is made by his son,

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Speaker 11: Luke Graham, and it celebrates Mak's incredible, amazing career. He

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Speaker 11: was one of the toughest ever players to be on

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Speaker 11: a league field and I think league lovers league fans

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Speaker 11: will absolutely love it. Theirs a focus on certain games

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Speaker 11: and certain series such as the Kiwis Kangaroo series in

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Speaker 11: nineteen eighty five. All the big names of league feature

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Speaker 11: in this documentary telling stories, telling us what was going

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Speaker 11: on behind the scenes. Graham low plays a large part,

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Speaker 11: of course, in the documentary, because he played a large

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Speaker 11: party Mark Graham's career. At the beginning of the film,

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Speaker 11: Luke sister his dad, hey, do you know why we're

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Speaker 11: making this film, And it's really clear that Mark Graham

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Speaker 11: is a reluctant player in this documentary and he said,

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Speaker 11: you're my son. This is going to be great for

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Speaker 11: your career, and I'm going to do anything I can

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Speaker 11: to help you. And he looks at and goes, but, hey, Notes,

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Speaker 11: I don't think anyone's going to watch this. I really

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Speaker 11: don't think anyone's going to watch this. But I'll help

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Speaker 11: you out. But I don't think anyone's going to watch it.

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Speaker 11: I think a lot of people are going to watch

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Speaker 11: it because it's not just a league story. It's also

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Speaker 11: a film that looks at the sacrifice is made to

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Speaker 11: be a professional amateur sports person. You know, the strain

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Speaker 11: at check on his body, the strain at check on

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Speaker 11: his family. Mike separated from the it's mother when he

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Speaker 11: was ten, and you know, Mark was superman to Luke,

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Speaker 11: but he was an absent father. He was not around

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Speaker 11: a lot. And it's this beautiful story of father and

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Speaker 11: son kind of coming together later in life. Also had

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Speaker 11: to deal with a terrible family tragedy. So it's sort

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Speaker 11: of also this lovely tribute to sons trying to make

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Speaker 11: their fathers proud of them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's sort of.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a family story as well as an incredible

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Speaker 11: league story. The footage of the league Jack like the

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Speaker 11: other day watching you know, Reece whilsh get taken out

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Speaker 11: in the say of Bargin. I was sitting at home horrified.

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Speaker 11: Now that was nothing.

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Speaker 4: Footage film rugby league in the eighties, especially just that

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Speaker 4: it was just basically grievous, bodily harm a round. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so that's sharko. That sounds that sounds fantastic. And I

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Speaker 4: don't want to give too much away, but I'm very

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Speaker 4: pleased to announce that we're going to be talking to

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Speaker 4: Mark and Luke Graham next weekend. On said the warning,

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Speaker 4: So cannot wait for that.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I'll definitely listen. Mark is a quiet gentleman.

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Speaker 11: He doesn't say a lot. Yeah, he's a real gentleman.

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Speaker 11: He doesn't want attention. He was a successful lead player,

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Speaker 11: just wants to get on with his life.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 11: Hey, look, docge dot in z as where you go.

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Speaker 11: So go checkat Docage dot Z.

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Speaker 6: So good true.

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Speaker 4: I know that one of those other films that is

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Speaker 4: showing at dock Edge is Citizen Sleuth, which is follows

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Speaker 4: a story of a true crime podcaster from Appalatia blurring

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Speaker 4: the line between fact and entertainment as she sort of

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Speaker 4: investigates a mysterious local death. And I know that you

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Speaker 4: guys have the filmmaker and the podcaster. The film was

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Speaker 4: about on the show tomorrow for the Sunday session, So

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Speaker 4: that'll be superb Thank you so much, Francisca doc edge

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Speaker 4: dot in z is the website. We'll make sure we

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack t keep him a conversation going

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Speaker 4: But it's the teen on news Dog ZB and our

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Speaker 4: Cochnicki Wix is here and celebrating Celiac Awareness Week. We're

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Speaker 4: almost at the end of it. But this is the

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Speaker 4: sort of thing like gluten free stuff is obviously increasingly

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Speaker 4: in demand, and you know, it seems to affect so

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Speaker 4: many people, it really does.

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Speaker 14: Jack.

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Speaker 15: To be diagnosed with Celiac is a terrible, terrible thing.

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Speaker 15: And unfortunately what has also happened is there's a whole

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Speaker 15: lot of people out there who are not celiac, but

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Speaker 15: are subscribing to a gluten free diet for whatever reason

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Speaker 15: or wheat free. So it's kind of buddy the water

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Speaker 15: is a little bit, but Celiac disease is serious, and

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Speaker 15: it's you know, havingifications to those bearing with sufferers, and

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Speaker 15: you know, you really need to get tested in that

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Speaker 15: sort of thing if you've got any of the symptoms,

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Speaker 15: which are you know, extreme fatigue, which is about sixty

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Speaker 15: percent of the population anyway, but a bloating like terrible reaction,

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Speaker 15: and ultimately you're not able to actually absorb nutrients from food,

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Speaker 15: which that's where we forget. We think food is about

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Speaker 15: fun and entertainment, but actually it's about supplying our bodess.

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Speaker 15: It's our body, yeah, exactly. So yeah, this week is

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Speaker 15: all about celebrating that, so I thought we'd talk a

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Speaker 15: little bit about it in terms of their focus this year,

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Speaker 15: which I love for their awareness week is about looking

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Speaker 15: out for people who've got Celiac disease. So you know

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Speaker 15: that means work functions, you know, when you're catering, when

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Speaker 15: you take a morning tea and you know, really what

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Speaker 15: you want to do is try and eliminate or if

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Speaker 15: you've got someone coming over for dinner. They're not picky eaters.

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Speaker 15: This is the thing. I've got a good neighbor and

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Speaker 15: she's gluten free. But then trying to she's Celiac. But

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Speaker 15: what Trying to sort of wheedl that out of here

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Speaker 15: is actually quite difficult because nobody wants to be a problem.

648
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Speaker 15: So I'll say, so, is this swy or cocaine because

649
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Speaker 15: I know some of it has barley and it oh

650
00:34:05,693 --> 00:34:07,413
Speaker 15: it's fine, and it's like, well, it's.

651
00:34:07,293 --> 00:34:10,733
Speaker 4: Not going to be fine, it's going to it. Yeah.

652
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Speaker 15: So yeah, so looking out for those other people. They

653
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Speaker 15: are not it's not a choice. They're not just having

654
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Speaker 15: a dietary preference here. It's actually really serious. So what

655
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Speaker 15: do you want to avoid if you've got somebody in

656
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Speaker 15: your your friend group or your work group who is

657
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Speaker 15: identifying with Celiac? Is that avoid wheat?

658
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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 15: Wheat is basically flour all whites and whole grain flower ballei,

660
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Speaker 15: which is in beer, so you know, and it's also

661
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Speaker 15: in some soy milks, rye, which is often found in biscuits,

662
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Speaker 15: or you know, because a lot of cereals are kind

663
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Speaker 15: of bulking agents, or a lot of these grains are

664
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Speaker 15: and also oats, which of course are in things like

665
00:34:46,733 --> 00:34:48,613
Speaker 15: porridge and zex that sort of thing. So you want

666
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Speaker 15: to avoid that. There is really fantastic products out these days.

667
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Speaker 15: I don't know what people did in the old days

668
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Speaker 15: to avoid gluten. I suspect they just suffered a lot, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 15: they would have been having terrible cramps and all sorts

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Speaker 15: of awful bowl shoes.

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Speaker 4: I also just wonder if it's the sort of thing

672
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Speaker 4: we've only kind of become aware of recently, or if

673
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Speaker 4: actually instances have really increased, you know, like if the

674
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Speaker 4: you know, the number of people are getting it, being

675
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Speaker 4: diagnosed with it has massively increased.

676
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Speaker 15: Yes, and I'm I'm not sure about that. Certainly we

677
00:35:21,853 --> 00:35:25,333
Speaker 15: now have so much more gluten in our diet. And also, yes,

678
00:35:25,453 --> 00:35:28,573
Speaker 15: is that tipping people over the edge? And also back

679
00:35:28,613 --> 00:35:30,853
Speaker 15: in the day, there wouldn't have been the tests because

680
00:35:31,093 --> 00:35:34,573
Speaker 15: it's actually a protein. Gluten is the protein you see. Yeah,

681
00:35:34,613 --> 00:35:36,453
Speaker 15: so you need to be you need to have feely,

682
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Speaker 15: you know, sophisticated tastes for it. Anyway, have we got

683
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Speaker 15: time to run through a little research.

684
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Speaker 4: I've got time, but we don't have heaps of time,

685
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Speaker 4: So let's go fast and then remind me online as well.

686
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Speaker 15: Yeah, all right, here's some wraps that you can make

687
00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:52,293
Speaker 15: at home, super easy. They can be used as tacos,

688
00:35:52,613 --> 00:35:55,573
Speaker 15: as wraps for lunch, savory crapes, all that sort of stuff.

689
00:35:56,053 --> 00:35:58,453
Speaker 15: Take two tea spoons of cuban seeds and toast them

690
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Speaker 15: off in a pan, no oil needed, and then we've

691
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Speaker 15: got one cup of I've used fresh Life chickpea flour.

692
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Speaker 15: Binin also has really great different types of flour. One

693
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Speaker 15: cup of water, so that's equal amounts, one tablespoon of oil,

694
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Speaker 15: good pinch of salt. Whisk that all up, and you

695
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Speaker 15: want to make sure it's a nice smooth batter, and

696
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Speaker 15: then leave it to sit for thirty minutes because it'll

697
00:36:20,293 --> 00:36:21,453
Speaker 15: thicken up a little bit.

698
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Speaker 1: Greaze a pan.

699
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Speaker 15: You don't need to run butter around it, just greeze

700
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Speaker 15: it lightly and then you want This makes about six

701
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Speaker 15: so about quarter of a cup of the batter. Pour

702
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Speaker 15: it in, Swirl it around like you do when you're

703
00:36:33,493 --> 00:36:36,333
Speaker 15: making crapes. Cook it for two to three minutes. Little

704
00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:39,333
Speaker 15: bubbles will appear, and then flip it over cook it

705
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Speaker 15: for another one to two minutes. These are really really fantastic.

706
00:36:43,813 --> 00:36:47,573
Speaker 15: Jack they really do hold hold your fillings. A lot

707
00:36:47,613 --> 00:36:50,893
Speaker 15: of things collapse because glutin is a protein that's stretch you.

708
00:36:50,973 --> 00:36:53,613
Speaker 15: But these are really great, so you know, make those

709
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Speaker 15: next time you've got an afternoon tea or your you know,

710
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Speaker 15: your Celiac friend coming over.

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Speaker 4: It's really good. Yeah, very good. Okay, Well we'll make

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Speaker 4: sure that recipe is at Newstork's head b dot co

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Speaker 4: dot nz Ford slash Jack and the other place to

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Speaker 4: go if you're looking for more tips or recipes, suppliers,

715
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Speaker 4: the latest medical data, that kind of thing. For people

716
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Speaker 4: who are gluten free or Celiac, go to Celiac dot

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Speaker 4: org dot.

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Speaker 1: Enz giving you the inside scoop on all you need

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Speaker 4: Be so I'm gluten full and that I don't have

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Speaker 4: any issues with gluten. I'm very fortunate in that respect.

723
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Speaker 4: But one thing I always think about gluten free foog

724
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Speaker 4: is because I remember when you started seeing more of

725
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Speaker 4: it on the shelves and stuff. I always that, oh,

726
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Speaker 4: it's going to not be very nice. A gluten free

727
00:37:40,973 --> 00:37:44,213
Speaker 4: cake is delicious. So if you're ever on off a shout,

728
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Speaker 4: or it's a colleague's birthday and you decide to get

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Speaker 4: them a cake, go gluten free because often they use

730
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Speaker 4: almond meal instead of flour, and when you use almond meal,

731
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Speaker 4: it's always richer, it's always more moist. Dare I say,

732
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Speaker 4: which it's delicious. So my big thing is gluten free

733
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Speaker 4: cakes into it in a big way. Thank you for

734
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Speaker 4: your feedback. We have had gazillions of messages regarding bean bags.

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Speaker 4: I'm just glad that I'm not the only one who's

736
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Speaker 4: had an issue with a beanbag.

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Speaker 6: Jack.

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Speaker 4: I filled my beanbag outside on a sunny day. There

739
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Speaker 4: were so many beans on the lawn that I decided

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Speaker 4: to vacuum them up. Cue my husband advising my kids

741
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Speaker 4: that yes, I'd finally lost the plot. He took a photo.

742
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Speaker 4: He didn't tell me. He sent the whole family a picture,

743
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Speaker 4: not explaining why I was vacuuming the lawn. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: feel me on that one. N ninety two. If you

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Speaker 4: want to flick us a message our feature interview after

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Speaker 4: ten Captain Jack Harkness from Doctor Who John Barrowman is

747
00:38:39,853 --> 00:38:41,933
Speaker 4: in the Country. News is next. Though it's almost ten,

748
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Speaker 4: it's Saturday, morning. I'm Jack Tame and this of course

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Speaker 4: is News Talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be.

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Speaker 4: Cal Don't you were jactating on news Talks, hed B.

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Speaker 4: Mackyest this morning is actor John Barrowman, who became an

756
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Speaker 4: instant hit with sci fi fans around the world when

757
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Speaker 4: he made his debut on Doctor Who back in two

758
00:39:33,933 --> 00:39:36,333
Speaker 4: thousand and five, almost twenty years ago.

759
00:39:36,373 --> 00:39:36,573
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: His character Captain Jack Harkness's popularity saw him become a

761
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Speaker 4: recurring presence in the BBC series, and he later took

762
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Speaker 4: center stage in the successful spin off series Torch Would.

763
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Speaker 4: He starred in superhero series Arrow and found huge success

764
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Speaker 4: in theater roles on Broadway and the West End. John

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Speaker 4: Barrowman is currently in New Zealand for this weekend's pop

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Speaker 4: culture convention Armageddon, and he's with us this morning.

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Speaker 16: Calder, good morning, good morning, good morning, and it's the

768
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Speaker 16: sunny day here in Auckland. It's absolutely fabulous.

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Speaker 17: John.

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Speaker 4: I know you've been here before. You know, you might

771
00:40:12,213 --> 00:40:13,653
Speaker 4: have been here a couple of times, but You've got

772
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Speaker 4: to be very careful when you're promising anything when it

773
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Speaker 4: comes to the weather in Auckland at this time of year.

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Speaker 16: I have been here in the summertime, and i've been

775
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Speaker 16: here in the winter. I've been to the South Island

776
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Speaker 16: in the winter and it's funny. Everybody says, oh, it's

777
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Speaker 16: freezing cold, it's going to be freezing. We actually find

778
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Speaker 16: it quite mild here, even though you guys might find

779
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Speaker 16: it cold. So it's a welcome break from the one

780
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Speaker 16: hundred and twenty five degree about you know heat in

781
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Speaker 16: California that's happening right now.

782
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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I get that fair enough. It's a

783
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Speaker 4: welcome reprieve at this time of year. I don't know

784
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Speaker 4: how how you feel your kind of national allegiances being

785
00:40:53,173 --> 00:40:55,413
Speaker 4: pulled in every which direction these days? By any chance?

786
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Speaker 4: Are you a football fan?

787
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Speaker 17: Uh?

788
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Speaker 16: Well, are you acting that because of Scotland.

789
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Speaker 4: Or yeah, yeah, because of Scotland. This morning it's it's

790
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Speaker 4: a very difficult time to be a Scottish football fan.

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Speaker 16: Well, I mean, has it not always been a difficult

792
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Speaker 16: times football fan? This is I think, I think what's

793
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Speaker 16: I think what's great at the moment is uh and

794
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Speaker 16: I haven't been following it as closely as probably I should,

795
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Speaker 16: you know, being at my country of birth. But I

796
00:41:20,693 --> 00:41:23,293
Speaker 16: know this is an opportunity for the team from Scotland

797
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Speaker 16: to either step out and become one of those historic

798
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Speaker 16: national teams that takes the reins and does something brilliant,

799
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Speaker 16: or they can step into the realm of being a

800
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Speaker 16: team that has uh you know, they they don't do

801
00:41:37,333 --> 00:41:39,053
Speaker 16: as well as they thought, but the fact of the

802
00:41:39,053 --> 00:41:42,613
Speaker 16: matter is it's bringing people together and it's exactly like

803
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Speaker 16: what we do in the convention world. We bring people

804
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Speaker 16: together to celebrate something that we really love. See the

805
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Speaker 16: way I did.

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, that was very slak. That was very very

807
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Speaker 4: very smooth. Look if if if you get sick of

808
00:41:54,213 --> 00:41:55,933
Speaker 4: the acting world, you could always you know, do a

809
00:41:55,933 --> 00:41:59,253
Speaker 4: bit more presenting, you know, just these kind of these

810
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Speaker 4: kind of see ways are invaluable in business.

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Speaker 16: They're good, No, But I wish them the best of

812
00:42:04,693 --> 00:42:08,573
Speaker 16: luck because as always it's the big games like that

813
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Speaker 16: that and I know Germany are on the tenderfoots and

814
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Speaker 16: are you know, with all that kind of stuff. So

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Speaker 16: I wish Scotland the best of luck. Gonya say all

816
00:42:17,213 --> 00:42:19,093
Speaker 16: lives the the country proud.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think I think they're gonna need every

818
00:42:22,093 --> 00:42:25,413
Speaker 4: little sliver of luck that anyone can wish them after

819
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Speaker 4: this morning. Anyway, what is it? What's it like for you?

820
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Speaker 4: Just see? Give us, give us some context, what it's

821
00:42:31,293 --> 00:42:35,133
Speaker 4: like traveling across the world and seeing how much love

822
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Speaker 4: there is still for a show like Doctor Who, well,

823
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Speaker 4: it just.

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Speaker 16: Goes to prove that a show that tells stories that

825
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Speaker 16: people can relate to, and that audiences can relate to,

826
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Speaker 16: and people can see themselves in the characters, not only

827
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Speaker 16: with Doctor Who, but Torch would and other you know,

828
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Speaker 16: superhero generated type shows, I say, or fantasy shows, science

829
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Speaker 16: fiction shows. But the fact of the matter that you know,

830
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Speaker 16: you can come somewhere like uh to Auckland, or you

831
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Speaker 16: can be in uh, some place in Australia, even even

832
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Speaker 16: however remote it is. I was in a restaurant last

833
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Speaker 16: night here in Auckland, having dinner, sitting chatting, and we

834
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Speaker 16: were talking to a young person who was from She

835
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Speaker 16: was not a native of of New Zealand, but they

836
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Speaker 16: had emigrated and we were sitting chatting and talking and

837
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Speaker 16: she looked at me and she said, you look an

838
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Speaker 16: awful lot like and you know, I chuckled, So you

839
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Speaker 16: get recognized all over the world. And the fact that

840
00:43:40,773 --> 00:43:45,053
Speaker 16: you know, uh, it's still popular, the stories are still

841
00:43:45,053 --> 00:43:47,373
Speaker 16: being told. It's just incredible. It's the gift that keeps

842
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Speaker 16: on giving. That's the only way I can describe it.

843
00:43:49,373 --> 00:43:51,293
Speaker 4: And is there any way you can distill the magic?

844
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Speaker 4: But what what is it? What is it for a

845
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Speaker 4: show like Doctor Who or Torch With that that really

846
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Speaker 4: has you know, that is connected with people in an

847
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Speaker 4: enduring way.

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Speaker 16: Well, I think, like I said, I think it's the

849
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Speaker 16: fact that anybody sitting watching it can see themselves in

850
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Speaker 16: those characters that are represented on on television. And we

851
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Speaker 16: were probably our generation of Doctor Who and also Torch Would.

852
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Speaker 16: We were the ones who were first to bring those

853
00:44:23,533 --> 00:44:27,613
Speaker 16: characters to light. They were flawed, they were they they

854
00:44:27,653 --> 00:44:29,973
Speaker 16: they did things that were wrong, they did the you know,

855
00:44:30,013 --> 00:44:32,893
Speaker 16: they tried to save the day, they didn't succeed or

856
00:44:32,933 --> 00:44:36,213
Speaker 16: they did succeed. And also we were representing different types

857
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Speaker 16: of people. We had, you know, a married couple, we

858
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Speaker 16: had single individuals. We had somebody who was you know,

859
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Speaker 16: we called Captain Jack at that time omnisexual, but clearly

860
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Speaker 16: he was he was gay or bisexual, and it was.

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Speaker 16: It was really stepping out and representing in a way

862
00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:58,533
Speaker 16: that had never been represented on television, particularly myself being

863
00:44:58,573 --> 00:45:01,493
Speaker 16: an openly gay man who was playing an you know,

864
00:45:02,293 --> 00:45:06,093
Speaker 16: an omnisexual hero on television. It was a big, big deal.

865
00:45:06,453 --> 00:45:06,613
Speaker 3: Yeah.

866
00:45:07,053 --> 00:45:09,093
Speaker 4: It's funny, right because you can kind of, you know,

867
00:45:09,133 --> 00:45:11,853
Speaker 4: when you think about progress that has been made for

868
00:45:12,093 --> 00:45:14,613
Speaker 4: rainbow communities in the last few decades, it's sort of

869
00:45:14,693 --> 00:45:18,253
Speaker 4: easy to take that, you know, that kind of role

870
00:45:18,333 --> 00:45:20,853
Speaker 4: and that kind of prominence for granted, but but that

871
00:45:20,853 --> 00:45:24,613
Speaker 4: that must have been something you were very very aware

872
00:45:24,653 --> 00:45:26,333
Speaker 4: of at the time. Was it when when you when

873
00:45:26,333 --> 00:45:28,573
Speaker 4: you first started playing Captain Jack? Was that was that something?

874
00:45:28,733 --> 00:45:30,173
Speaker 4: Did you feel anxiety about it?

875
00:45:30,973 --> 00:45:31,133
Speaker 9: No?

876
00:45:31,253 --> 00:45:34,453
Speaker 16: I didn't, actually, because when I was in an interview

877
00:45:34,493 --> 00:45:37,173
Speaker 16: I said something. It was one of the episode, was

878
00:45:37,173 --> 00:45:39,933
Speaker 16: the episode where Jack kissed the doctor and Rose and

879
00:45:40,013 --> 00:45:43,573
Speaker 16: somebody said, do you realize In the interview, I said something,

880
00:45:43,653 --> 00:45:45,253
Speaker 16: They said, do you realize you've just come out? And

881
00:45:45,253 --> 00:45:49,133
Speaker 16: I went, have I ever been in you know, I've

882
00:45:49,173 --> 00:45:51,533
Speaker 16: I've lived my life. I've tried to you know, you

883
00:45:51,533 --> 00:45:55,173
Speaker 16: don't some people feel they don't have to wear a

884
00:45:55,493 --> 00:45:58,893
Speaker 16: banner saying you know what what their their who their

885
00:45:58,933 --> 00:46:01,813
Speaker 16: true self is. But others do and that's the that's

886
00:46:01,853 --> 00:46:04,853
Speaker 16: the beauty of our community. We help others, uh to

887
00:46:05,093 --> 00:46:10,893
Speaker 16: stand up and to be themselves. But also it's you know, yeah,

888
00:46:11,293 --> 00:46:13,413
Speaker 16: I don't think I had anxiety over it. You know,

889
00:46:13,493 --> 00:46:15,613
Speaker 16: obviously people had said to me, your career is going

890
00:46:15,693 --> 00:46:17,813
Speaker 16: to tank if you come out. Well, you know what,

891
00:46:18,053 --> 00:46:21,173
Speaker 16: I'd rather have a career that's a roller coaster and

892
00:46:21,613 --> 00:46:25,133
Speaker 16: and take some risks because I want to live my life.

893
00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:27,733
Speaker 16: I want to be myself. I want to introduce my husband,

894
00:46:27,893 --> 00:46:30,773
Speaker 16: my now husband, to the world. I don't want to hide.

895
00:46:30,813 --> 00:46:33,133
Speaker 16: I want to have relationships like everybody else. I want

896
00:46:33,133 --> 00:46:36,813
Speaker 16: to have fun. And that was part of why I

897
00:46:36,933 --> 00:46:38,973
Speaker 16: did it, But you know, more so in the show,

898
00:46:39,093 --> 00:46:42,693
Speaker 16: the writing was the one that you know, Russell and

899
00:46:42,733 --> 00:46:45,173
Speaker 16: the team of writers, they were the ones who kind

900
00:46:45,173 --> 00:46:49,813
Speaker 16: of launched into it. And really the audience and the

901
00:46:49,933 --> 00:46:53,453
Speaker 16: press kind of when did that just happen? You know,

902
00:46:53,613 --> 00:46:56,093
Speaker 16: and it was it was something that was you know,

903
00:46:56,173 --> 00:46:59,493
Speaker 16: they we everyone was like, oh, okay, so this is

904
00:46:59,533 --> 00:47:03,053
Speaker 16: the route we're going. But what's great is now there's

905
00:47:03,093 --> 00:47:06,733
Speaker 16: a whole new generation of young people who may not

906
00:47:06,813 --> 00:47:10,453
Speaker 16: know the history of of what happened. But now they're

907
00:47:10,493 --> 00:47:13,253
Speaker 16: seeing the doctor who is who is uh you know,

908
00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:16,773
Speaker 16: I think he's he's represented as being uh you know,

909
00:47:17,813 --> 00:47:20,373
Speaker 16: I want to say gay, but if I'm incorrect, I apologize.

910
00:47:21,653 --> 00:47:21,893
Speaker 14: Sho.

911
00:47:23,573 --> 00:47:23,893
Speaker 6: Sorry.

912
00:47:23,973 --> 00:47:26,013
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

913
00:47:26,053 --> 00:47:28,053
Speaker 16: So there's a whole new generation who think, oh this

914
00:47:28,173 --> 00:47:30,213
Speaker 16: is the new and it's great, but you know, there

915
00:47:30,253 --> 00:47:33,333
Speaker 16: is a history. Like everything, there is a history that

916
00:47:33,453 --> 00:47:36,413
Speaker 16: leads us to this point and we can't forget that history.

917
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:36,573
Speaker 6: Yeah.

918
00:47:36,733 --> 00:47:39,573
Speaker 4: Hey, you released an album last year right Seen to

919
00:47:39,613 --> 00:47:43,853
Speaker 4: Stage I did that was made with the Royal Philharmonical Orchestra.

920
00:47:43,893 --> 00:47:44,693
Speaker 4: How did that come about?

921
00:47:45,613 --> 00:47:48,453
Speaker 16: Well, I literally I tried to do an album every

922
00:47:48,453 --> 00:47:50,973
Speaker 16: couple of years and it was the first musical theater

923
00:47:51,053 --> 00:47:54,013
Speaker 16: album I've done in a very very long time, and

924
00:47:54,093 --> 00:47:58,413
Speaker 16: I wanted the songs to represent a journey in my

925
00:47:58,533 --> 00:48:03,413
Speaker 16: career through musical theater and television and entertainment and all

926
00:48:03,533 --> 00:48:06,573
Speaker 16: related to the stage and the Royal Philharmonic. If we

927
00:48:06,773 --> 00:48:11,173
Speaker 16: just approached them myself and Matt brind my musical director,

928
00:48:11,253 --> 00:48:15,333
Speaker 16: and got hold, they were there and it's, if I

929
00:48:15,333 --> 00:48:17,893
Speaker 16: could say so, it's just an amazing, incredible album And

930
00:48:17,933 --> 00:48:21,413
Speaker 16: to listen to it with the lush orchestrations, and to

931
00:48:21,493 --> 00:48:24,133
Speaker 16: know that I have the Philharmonic behind me, it's just incredible.

932
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

933
00:48:24,613 --> 00:48:26,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's really special, isn't it. How do you

934
00:48:26,893 --> 00:48:31,853
Speaker 4: feel about the kind of trajectory of entertainment and how

935
00:48:31,973 --> 00:48:34,533
Speaker 4: musical theater fits into that, because for our listeners who

936
00:48:34,613 --> 00:48:36,293
Speaker 4: might not know you have you have a rich history

937
00:48:36,293 --> 00:48:39,213
Speaker 4: in musical theater. Obviously you've had, you know, big screen

938
00:48:39,293 --> 00:48:41,893
Speaker 4: roles as well. But do you think that musical theater

939
00:48:42,053 --> 00:48:46,013
Speaker 4: is kind of as as relevant, as prominent, as popular

940
00:48:46,213 --> 00:48:48,773
Speaker 4: as it has always been, or in the Netflix era,

941
00:48:48,853 --> 00:48:51,693
Speaker 4: do you think it's perhaps not not holding the place

942
00:48:51,733 --> 00:48:52,253
Speaker 4: it once did.

943
00:48:53,093 --> 00:48:53,373
Speaker 2: Well.

944
00:48:53,813 --> 00:48:56,293
Speaker 16: Musical theater I think is even more prominent now than

945
00:48:56,333 --> 00:48:59,373
Speaker 16: it has been because you've got shows like Shmiga Dune,

946
00:48:59,453 --> 00:49:03,813
Speaker 16: you've got other other TV shows. I was just seeing

947
00:49:03,813 --> 00:49:07,973
Speaker 16: an episode of The Boys the other night. Yeah, and

948
00:49:08,373 --> 00:49:11,813
Speaker 16: there's musical numbers incorporated in most shows now, and I

949
00:49:11,853 --> 00:49:16,573
Speaker 16: think that's the that audiences people realize and networks realize

950
00:49:16,613 --> 00:49:19,773
Speaker 16: that people want to be entertained and to throw snippets

951
00:49:19,773 --> 00:49:23,693
Speaker 16: of different types of entertainment into programming and also, uh

952
00:49:23,733 --> 00:49:27,093
Speaker 16: in you know, things that you're watching really gives it

953
00:49:27,133 --> 00:49:27,973
Speaker 16: some diversity.

954
00:49:28,013 --> 00:49:29,373
Speaker 3: And also, you.

955
00:49:29,333 --> 00:49:32,173
Speaker 16: Know, music is an extension in musical theater. When we

956
00:49:32,253 --> 00:49:35,213
Speaker 16: can't speak what we feel, we sing it. And that's

957
00:49:35,333 --> 00:49:37,493
Speaker 16: also where people are realizing, because what do you do

958
00:49:37,533 --> 00:49:39,613
Speaker 16: when you're by yourself in the house and you're happier,

959
00:49:39,613 --> 00:49:43,133
Speaker 16: you're joyful, You sing, You sing someone else's song, you

960
00:49:43,213 --> 00:49:47,053
Speaker 16: hum a tune. So again, it's reflecting what people actually do.

961
00:49:47,373 --> 00:49:49,053
Speaker 16: And I know people will go, oh, we don't walk

962
00:49:49,093 --> 00:49:52,813
Speaker 16: around singing, Well you kind of do, you just don't want.

963
00:49:52,733 --> 00:49:53,293
Speaker 3: To admit it.

964
00:49:53,453 --> 00:49:55,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. So what's the plan

965
00:49:55,813 --> 00:49:57,093
Speaker 4: for Amagadden this weekend?

966
00:49:58,053 --> 00:50:01,253
Speaker 16: Well, it's the plan is it's all about the fan family,

967
00:50:01,413 --> 00:50:06,333
Speaker 16: and it's about having uh celebrating diversity, celebrating uh tea

968
00:50:06,373 --> 00:50:09,413
Speaker 16: TV shows, pop culture, and we're gonna have a lot

969
00:50:09,413 --> 00:50:12,133
Speaker 16: of fun. I've got my panel, which I you know,

970
00:50:12,293 --> 00:50:16,293
Speaker 16: cosplay myself in a kind of a gender bending way

971
00:50:16,333 --> 00:50:20,013
Speaker 16: of something and some of the shows that I've been in,

972
00:50:20,093 --> 00:50:23,093
Speaker 16: so I do that. It's going to be like an

973
00:50:23,133 --> 00:50:26,613
Speaker 16: hour of stand up and then we do autograph signings

974
00:50:26,613 --> 00:50:29,053
Speaker 16: and we have an event tonight. So it's a packed weekend.

975
00:50:29,493 --> 00:50:32,333
Speaker 16: And if it's raining, outside. Come on and see us

976
00:50:32,373 --> 00:50:35,813
Speaker 16: because it's always warm and sunny indoors when we're doing

977
00:50:35,973 --> 00:50:38,413
Speaker 16: one of the conventions and Armageddon Yeah fantastic.

978
00:50:38,453 --> 00:50:39,893
Speaker 4: Hey, look, it's so good to have you back in

979
00:50:39,933 --> 00:50:41,773
Speaker 4: New Zealand and thank you very much for giving us

980
00:50:41,813 --> 00:50:43,533
Speaker 4: your time. And I hope you can enjoy today.

981
00:50:44,493 --> 00:50:45,093
Speaker 17: I will.

982
00:50:45,133 --> 00:50:47,573
Speaker 16: And it's really lovely to be back. I enjoy coming

983
00:50:47,613 --> 00:50:50,533
Speaker 16: here and it's lovely to be welcomed with you know

984
00:50:50,653 --> 00:50:51,933
Speaker 16: all that New Zealand love.

985
00:50:52,453 --> 00:50:57,373
Speaker 4: Fantastic, bet is John Barrowman. The Armagidney Expo has kicked

986
00:50:57,373 --> 00:51:00,533
Speaker 4: off today. It's on well, kicked off yesterday. I think

987
00:51:00,733 --> 00:51:03,373
Speaker 4: Winter Geddon the Calding it this year. It's in Auckland's

988
00:51:03,453 --> 00:51:06,893
Speaker 4: Showgrounds until six pm tonight and then tomorrow from nine

989
00:51:06,933 --> 00:51:09,973
Speaker 4: till five as well. You can go to armagedonexpo dot

990
00:51:10,013 --> 00:51:12,773
Speaker 4: com for all of the details. Before eleven o'clock on

991
00:51:12,813 --> 00:51:15,533
Speaker 4: news Talk Z'DB, we're getting into the throes of the

992
00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:18,013
Speaker 4: coldest months of the year and that means that food

993
00:51:18,093 --> 00:51:21,413
Speaker 4: is pretty scarce for the birds in our backyards. We're

994
00:51:21,413 --> 00:51:22,813
Speaker 4: going to talk to our man on the garden who

995
00:51:22,893 --> 00:51:26,173
Speaker 4: has some advice on what you do or what you

996
00:51:26,213 --> 00:51:28,773
Speaker 4: should do if you want to feed the birds, but

997
00:51:28,853 --> 00:51:32,613
Speaker 4: also some cautionary advice. There are some things you really

998
00:51:32,653 --> 00:51:36,133
Speaker 4: shouldn't do if you're looking to support some of the

999
00:51:36,133 --> 00:51:38,573
Speaker 4: wildlife in your backyard as well. So he'll be with

1000
00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:40,613
Speaker 4: us very soon. Next up, though, if you're looking for

1001
00:51:40,653 --> 00:51:43,333
Speaker 4: a nice relaxing weekend on the couch, you're looking for

1002
00:51:43,373 --> 00:51:45,813
Speaker 4: something good to watch after all of the amazing sport

1003
00:51:45,893 --> 00:51:48,813
Speaker 4: this weekend, good news three shows to recommend to you

1004
00:51:48,893 --> 00:51:52,413
Speaker 4: in our screen time segment. Right now it's twenty past ten.

1005
00:51:52,853 --> 00:51:54,853
Speaker 2: To start your weekend off in style.

1006
00:51:55,053 --> 00:51:58,533
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepure dot code on

1007
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Speaker 1: inst for high quality supplements, use talks EDB.

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Speaker 4: If you want to get in touch this morning, you

1009
00:52:04,053 --> 00:52:07,733
Speaker 4: can do so extremely easily. Ninety two ninety two is

1010
00:52:07,773 --> 00:52:09,573
Speaker 4: our text number if you want to send me a

1011
00:52:09,573 --> 00:52:11,653
Speaker 4: message this morning. Of course you can email me if

1012
00:52:11,693 --> 00:52:13,693
Speaker 4: you want to send me a longer one jacket Newstalk

1013
00:52:13,773 --> 00:52:17,053
Speaker 4: zb dot co dot nz. Before ten o'clock this morning,

1014
00:52:17,053 --> 00:52:20,533
Speaker 4: we were talking about podcasts and the amazing range of

1015
00:52:20,613 --> 00:52:23,893
Speaker 4: really interesting podcasts that you can access these days. Do

1016
00:52:23,933 --> 00:52:26,813
Speaker 4: you know we now publish this show as a podcast.

1017
00:52:26,973 --> 00:52:30,293
Speaker 4: The entire thing So if you wanted to go back

1018
00:52:30,333 --> 00:52:33,053
Speaker 4: and listen to the show again and again and again,

1019
00:52:33,133 --> 00:52:36,053
Speaker 4: as I can only imagine you do, it's very easy.

1020
00:52:36,133 --> 00:52:39,013
Speaker 4: Just go to whatever app you use to access podcasts,

1021
00:52:39,173 --> 00:52:42,973
Speaker 4: or go to iHeartRadio search Jack Tame and you should

1022
00:52:43,013 --> 00:52:45,093
Speaker 4: be able to find it. Right now, it is twenty

1023
00:52:45,093 --> 00:52:47,253
Speaker 4: three minutes past ten. If you're looking for something good

1024
00:52:47,253 --> 00:52:51,253
Speaker 4: to watch or stream this weekend, good news. Tara Reward,

1025
00:52:51,333 --> 00:52:56,093
Speaker 4: our screen time expert, has her recommendations. Hey Tara, good morning. Okay,

1026
00:52:56,293 --> 00:52:59,133
Speaker 4: three very different shows to talk about. Let's start off

1027
00:52:59,173 --> 00:53:01,813
Speaker 4: with a show that's streaming on three now. Tell us

1028
00:53:01,853 --> 00:53:02,893
Speaker 4: about Red Eye.

1029
00:53:03,453 --> 00:53:05,973
Speaker 18: Yeah, if you're looking for something a bit far fetched

1030
00:53:06,013 --> 00:53:09,213
Speaker 18: and but also quite enjoyable this weekend, this is My wreck.

1031
00:53:09,333 --> 00:53:12,293
Speaker 18: This is Red Eye. It's a British thriller and it's

1032
00:53:12,333 --> 00:53:15,453
Speaker 18: about an English doctor who is returning from a work

1033
00:53:15,493 --> 00:53:17,933
Speaker 18: trip to China and when he lands in the UK,

1034
00:53:18,093 --> 00:53:20,733
Speaker 18: he's arrested for murder and is extradited back on a

1035
00:53:20,773 --> 00:53:23,453
Speaker 18: flight to China to face his crime. Now, the doctor

1036
00:53:23,493 --> 00:53:26,173
Speaker 18: says he's innocent, he says he's being framed and on

1037
00:53:26,213 --> 00:53:28,413
Speaker 18: the flight back. Most of the show takes place on

1038
00:53:28,453 --> 00:53:31,533
Speaker 18: the plane itself where things start to happen. There are

1039
00:53:31,893 --> 00:53:35,453
Speaker 18: mysterious deaths, there are poisonings, and the detective who's taking

1040
00:53:35,493 --> 00:53:37,733
Speaker 18: the doctor on the flight has to try and work

1041
00:53:37,773 --> 00:53:39,773
Speaker 18: out what's going on. And it's that whole idea that

1042
00:53:39,853 --> 00:53:42,733
Speaker 18: you know, you're on this confined space for several hours.

1043
00:53:42,733 --> 00:53:44,373
Speaker 18: How can all these strange things be happening?

1044
00:53:44,773 --> 00:53:44,933
Speaker 16: Now?

1045
00:53:44,933 --> 00:53:46,973
Speaker 18: The thing about Red Eye is that you will need

1046
00:53:47,013 --> 00:53:50,733
Speaker 18: to suspend disbelief big time. Things happen in this that

1047
00:53:50,893 --> 00:53:53,933
Speaker 18: are completely implausible. There are so many plot holes. But

1048
00:53:54,013 --> 00:53:57,413
Speaker 18: I think if you go in with lower expectations. It's

1049
00:53:57,453 --> 00:54:00,333
Speaker 18: not Sunday Masterpiece theater. This is a fun little thriller.

1050
00:54:00,413 --> 00:54:03,493
Speaker 18: It's fast paced, it's bingeable, it's entertaining. It's a bit

1051
00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:05,253
Speaker 18: of fun that you shouldn't take too seriously.

1052
00:54:05,413 --> 00:54:07,773
Speaker 4: Nice, Okay, cool. It's on three now. The show is

1053
00:54:07,773 --> 00:54:10,973
Speaker 4: called red Eye on Disney Plus. Under the Bridge.

1054
00:54:11,493 --> 00:54:13,973
Speaker 18: Yeah, a much more darker, more serious drama this time.

1055
00:54:14,013 --> 00:54:16,733
Speaker 18: This is a true crime series and it's based on

1056
00:54:17,293 --> 00:54:20,013
Speaker 18: a murder that took place in nineteen ninety seven and

1057
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Speaker 18: British Columbia and Canada. And the show follows a journalist

1058
00:54:23,253 --> 00:54:26,093
Speaker 18: who's writing a book about a Foster Home for girls

1059
00:54:26,133 --> 00:54:28,053
Speaker 18: in her hometown and what it's like to be one

1060
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:30,853
Speaker 18: of these teenagers. And at the same time as she's

1061
00:54:30,893 --> 00:54:33,573
Speaker 18: writing the book, a local teenager goes missing and has

1062
00:54:33,613 --> 00:54:36,573
Speaker 18: found murdered, and the journalist starts to realize that the

1063
00:54:36,613 --> 00:54:39,693
Speaker 18: girls that she's interviewing from the Foster Home are linked

1064
00:54:39,693 --> 00:54:43,133
Speaker 18: to the crime. It stars Lily Gladstone actually Punjabi from

1065
00:54:43,173 --> 00:54:45,333
Speaker 18: The Good Fight, and Riley Keoh who was in Daisy

1066
00:54:45,373 --> 00:54:47,653
Speaker 18: in the Sixth So it's got a great cast and

1067
00:54:47,693 --> 00:54:50,133
Speaker 18: it's quite a heavy story, of course, because the crime

1068
00:54:50,213 --> 00:54:53,013
Speaker 18: was quite shocking at the time, and you know, it

1069
00:54:53,053 --> 00:54:55,973
Speaker 18: has this sort of fitting gloomy and dark feel to it,

1070
00:54:56,053 --> 00:54:58,093
Speaker 18: but also quite compelling as well. And I think if

1071
00:54:58,093 --> 00:55:02,053
Speaker 18: you like those dark true crime dramas like The Staircase

1072
00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:04,973
Speaker 18: or The Act or Under the Banner of Heaven, I

1073
00:55:04,973 --> 00:55:06,093
Speaker 18: think you'll enjoy this as well.

1074
00:55:06,173 --> 00:55:08,773
Speaker 4: Cool okay, and the show that I love on Netflix

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Speaker 4: Tour de France Unchained.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, this is back for a second season. This is

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Speaker 18: one of the most exciting shows on Netflix, I think.

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Speaker 18: And if you've seen Drive to Survive, which is Netflix's

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Speaker 18: show about Formula one, this is like Drive to Survive

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Speaker 18: but for the Tour de France. It's made by the

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Speaker 18: same production team, similar kind of structure, and it's a

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Speaker 18: documentary series that takes you behind the scenes of the

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Speaker 18: Tour de France bike race. It follows about I think

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Speaker 18: about ten teams through the race and talks to the riders,

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Speaker 18: to the coaches, to the people and the cars driving

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Speaker 18: behind the paloton. You really get to know the people involved,

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Speaker 18: and it's just full of so much action and drama

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Speaker 18: from the race. It makes it feel like you're actually

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Speaker 18: there writing with them. The camera work is amazing, the

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Speaker 18: crashes are spectacular. It shows how dangerous it is, and

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Speaker 18: I think the best thing about the show is that

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Speaker 18: you don't need to know anything about cycling to enjoy this.

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Speaker 18: You can just pick it up as you go along

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Speaker 18: and you will be an expert by the end of it.

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Speaker 4: So what are we going to call these kind of shows?

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Speaker 4: Don't you think we're at the point now where we

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00:56:02,253 --> 00:56:04,173
Speaker 4: need to we need to give the genre a bit

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Speaker 4: of a name. Yeah, it's like sport your mentor or

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Speaker 4: something A yeah, because.

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Speaker 18: It's not kind of a historic looking back on something.

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Speaker 18: It puts you in the moment and as if you're there,

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Speaker 18: which I think is kind of that new, exciting, fast paced,

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Speaker 18: adrenaline kind of sports.

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Speaker 5: See.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, right because I so I really enjoy

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Speaker 4: the Tour de France, and I don't know why, but

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Speaker 4: I always sort of watch it. And you know, when

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Speaker 4: when the first season of this came out, I knew

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Speaker 4: what the results were, and I kind of knew, you know,

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Speaker 4: the kind of main storylines from the from the Tour

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Speaker 4: de France, and yet I still found it really compelling.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's the amazing thing about this, and

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Speaker 4: it's the same with Drive to Survive, is they've managed

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Speaker 4: to make it interesting for people who are already fans

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Speaker 4: of the sport exactly whilst at the same time introducing

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Speaker 4: millions more people to it, right because even if you're

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Speaker 4: not a big cycling fan or you're not a big

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Speaker 4: motorsport fan, you can kind of appreciate the drama A yeah.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, And it's not easy to strike the balance without

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Speaker 18: sort of appearing kind of condescending to the real cycle

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Speaker 18: fans who you know a lot about it, but also

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Speaker 18: keeping those strangers to the sport invested and you know,

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Speaker 18: coming back to it going to that next episode.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here it's intriguing ae sports you mentory or something

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Speaker 4: like that. It's funny though, because because there's a bit

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Speaker 4: of a pushback a like in IF one, for example,

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Speaker 4: maxistaff And still isn't taking part in Drive to Survive

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Speaker 4: even though he's the top driver in the world right now.

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Speaker 4: He just doesn't want to go near it because he

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Speaker 4: was unhappy about have his portrayed early on and that

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Speaker 4: kind of thing. And so yeah, it's it's interesting, you know,

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Speaker 4: and I think some of the purists in these sports

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Speaker 4: would say, oh, well, it's trivializing the sport or something

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Speaker 4: like that, but.

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Speaker 18: Taking the mystery out of it as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you might just want to keep.

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Speaker 18: Those things secret and private. Yeah, everyone to know what's

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Speaker 18: going on.

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Speaker 4: It's funny anyway, Thank you so much, really appreciate it. Tara.

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Speaker 4: That is Tara Reward, our screen time expert person with

1141
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Speaker 4: one of the best jobs in the world watching heagus

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Speaker 4: the TV shows so she can recommend her favorites to

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Speaker 4: us those shows once again. Red Eye is on three now,

1144
00:58:09,133 --> 00:58:11,613
Speaker 4: Under the Bridge is on Disney Plus, Tour de France

1145
00:58:11,773 --> 00:58:16,133
Speaker 4: Unchained is on Netflix. Before eleven o'clock, We're going to

1146
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Speaker 4: catch up with our doctor, Brian Betty. He wants to

1147
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Speaker 4: talk to us this morning about ADHD. It's had a

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Speaker 4: whole lot of prominence lately, so he wants to well

1149
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Speaker 4: to break down some of the details behind ADHD diagnoses

1150
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Speaker 4: and the things to look out for if you think

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Speaker 4: you or someone in your life might be experiencing ADHD.

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Speaker 4: So he's gonna be with us very soon. It's almost

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Speaker 4: ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: Getting your weekend started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks.

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Speaker 19: Santu me Bye line, Planny, trying to pick me out?

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Speaker 3: Jug you right?

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Speaker 4: This is cool, a ah, so good. This is Thames.

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Speaker 4: Her full name is Tamlaid Open a year. She's from Lagos, Nigeria,

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Speaker 4: and she's kind of proven herself to be a big

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Speaker 4: part of the pop landscape, although it was taken a while.

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Speaker 4: She was kind of around, you know, on the edges

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Speaker 4: on the verge of stardom for a wee while back

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two, she won a Grammy and then

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Speaker 4: she featured in Marvel's Black Panther soundtrack album, and so

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Speaker 4: it kind of exploded from there. She's just been announcing

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Speaker 4: the lineup for Glastonbury at the end of this month,

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Speaker 4: which is great. And she's just dropped a brand new

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Speaker 4: eighteen track album called Borne in the Wild. That's our

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Speaker 4: album of the week, So we're going to listen to

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Speaker 4: that after eleven o'clock this morning and get our music

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Speaker 4: reviewers thoughts on that. I know it's going to really

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Speaker 4: it's kind of a unique sound day. So yeah, looking

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Speaker 4: forward to listening to a bit more Thames. Right now,

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Speaker 4: it is twenty seven minutes to eleven. You were Jack Taman.

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Speaker 4: This is New York ZB putting the.

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Speaker 2: Tough questions to the newspeakers. The Mic Hosking.

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Speaker 20: Breakfast Retirement Commission has got a bunch of ideas to

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Speaker 20: boost our QV Saber potterufhol contribution should be rising from

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Speaker 20: three to four percent. Employers match that. Sam Stubbs, founder

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Speaker 20: of course of the Q Saber scheme Simplicity, is back

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Speaker 20: with us. Her ideas and your ideas do they align

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Speaker 20: broadly or not?

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Speaker 9: Not perfectly? Mike, I mean, I think she wants contributions

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Speaker 9: to rise one percent, but if you look at OZI,

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Speaker 9: they're paying twelve percent. So if the Aussies have got

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Speaker 9: five times our population, but they've got thirty five times

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Speaker 9: our savings, so we're not saving nearly enough. But she

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Speaker 9: has to introduce this idea gradually because you know, to

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Speaker 9: across the living crisis. She is to say that you

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Speaker 9: accept the contributions to go from three to twelve per cent.

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Speaker 8: Everybody would laugh.

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Speaker 20: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: Jaguar Newstalk zed.

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Speaker 4: B twenty four to eleven non Newstalk ZEDB. Microsoft has

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Speaker 4: effectively put the launch of one of its big new

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Speaker 4: AI features on hold because of security concerns. This isn't

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Speaker 4: the first time it's happened with the launch of new AI.

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Speaker 4: All these big companies are rushing out. There are various

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Speaker 4: AI products, but not everything's been perfect in our text.

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Speaker 4: But Paul Stenhouse, here's the details of Microsoft's issues. Hey Paul,

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Speaker 4: good morning.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it's such a hot topic at the moment, and

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Speaker 21: every company wants to be seen as the leader, largely

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Speaker 21: to the eyes of Wall Street, if I'm being honest, JET,

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Speaker 21: because they see that AI is the next big thing

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Speaker 21: and they know that open AI is at the moment

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Speaker 21: the leader, so they're kind of thinking, which are these

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Speaker 21: big tech companies, the Microsoft's, the Googles, the Metas are

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Speaker 21: going to be the one to kind of take this

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Speaker 21: to the masses. And yeah, Microsoft had really big on

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Speaker 21: AI with their new co pilot Plus PCs. I mentioned

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Speaker 21: these some when they launched, or when they first announced them.

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Speaker 21: First of all, they need a branding update because copilot

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Speaker 21: Plus is a mouthful, but these computers were basically designed

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Speaker 21: with AI in mind. That was the whole thing. And

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Speaker 21: one of the big features that they wanted to launch

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Speaker 21: was called Recall. Now it basically takes screenshots of everything

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Speaker 21: you're doing on your computer, right, so anything you're you've typed,

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Speaker 21: or anything you've seenes or so. Think of it as

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Speaker 21: like a web browsing history, but kind of on steroids

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Speaker 21: and across every application you have on your computer. And

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Speaker 21: I've had to put that on hold. I've had to

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Speaker 21: basically say we're not going to launch this because it's

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Speaker 21: just kind of riddled with issues. And Microsoft last week

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Speaker 21: had said that it was not going to be turned

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Speaker 21: on by default, right, so they basically had already admitted that, Okay,

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Speaker 21: we see that, you know, maybe not everybody wants this

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Speaker 21: new feature turned on.

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Speaker 22: You're going to have to opt in.

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Speaker 21: Well, this week they've gone the step further and said, actually,

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Speaker 21: we're only going to put it out to those who

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Speaker 21: are in their insider program, which is the people who

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Speaker 21: get the early access to the features, because they say

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Speaker 21: it's so they can provide a quote trusted, secure, and

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Speaker 21: robust experience for all customers.

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Speaker 17: I think what.

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Speaker 21: They're really saying behind the scenes is that there are

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Speaker 21: just so many security concerns with this type of feature.

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Speaker 21: I mean, the first one is, Okay, if it's a

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Speaker 21: work computer, can your employer see every single thing that

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Speaker 21: you're looking at, including things that might not be for work.

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Speaker 21: What about if you accidentally put your password into the

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Speaker 21: wrong box and it doesn't have the dashes, are they

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Speaker 21: going to see that? What about API keys, confidential material?

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Speaker 21: You know, like, there's a bevy of issues that are there.

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Speaker 21: But worse is that apparently some hackers had found a

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Speaker 21: way to get access to those you know, hundreds thousands,

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Speaker 21: hundreds of thousands, millions of images that would have been

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Speaker 21: stored and all of the metadata because it was unencrypted,

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Speaker 21: so all you had to be was like you had

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Speaker 21: to be a bad actor and install some ransomware on

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Speaker 21: a computer and suddenly you had access to every single

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Speaker 21: thing that had effectively been on the person's screen. Sounds

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Speaker 21: like a nightmare. Microsoft's Microsoft realized that it's a nightmare

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Speaker 21: and are now basically delaying it because.

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Speaker 2: It's not quite ready.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in the world of AI, there is now another

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Speaker 4: word to add to the various tech lingo. And this

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Speaker 4: one's not too complicated. I love it slop.

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Speaker 21: Flop, and it's and it's actually needed, Like it's a word.

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Speaker 21: The word has come into use because it's needed. AI produces,

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Speaker 21: you know, the one The way that it was described

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Speaker 21: originally was hallucinations, where it just kind of made some

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Speaker 21: things up and kind of you know, maybe connected some

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Speaker 21: dots that shouldn't have connected. But this is when the

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Speaker 21: AI is generating lots of those things together. So like

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Speaker 21: you like we think of email having spa, the AI

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Speaker 21: can have slop. So what that basically is is when

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Speaker 21: it when it's like, produces just low quality kind of

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Speaker 21: junk content. Maybe maybe you know, like it's an article

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Speaker 21: that seems like it's overly created by AI. It feels

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Speaker 21: a little kind of off. Maybe it's like, you know,

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Speaker 21: maybe it's Google suggesting that you add non toxic glue

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Speaker 21: to a.

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Speaker 17: Pizza, or you know, oh, maybe some bad AI.

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Speaker 21: Generated r We can just start referring to that as slop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that slop. It works. Well. Hey, thanks Paul,

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Speaker 4: you take care and we will catch you soon at

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Speaker 4: our Textbert post in house doctor Brian Betty on ADHD.

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Speaker 4: He's with us next right now. It is nineteen minutes

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Speaker 4: NB seventeen to eleven on News Talks EDB. ADHD, attention

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Speaker 4: deficit hyperactivity disorder has had a whole lot of attention lately,

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Speaker 4: the likes of Torri Faro, the Mayor of Wellington, Chloe

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Speaker 4: Swarbrick going public with their diagnoses. Darcy Waldgrave of course

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Speaker 4: talking about ADHD and the difficulties around getting a diagnosis

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Speaker 4: and ongoing treatment, especially for adults. They reckon that in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand between five an eight percent of children and

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Speaker 4: adolescents are affected by ADHD and for seventy percent of

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Speaker 4: those it persists into adulthood. But I've got to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I'm one of these people who and this probably doesn't

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Speaker 4: reflect very well on me. It just part of me

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Speaker 4: feels like sometimes I think, oh, it's ADHD, the kind

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Speaker 4: of you know, the diagnosis of the day, which I

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Speaker 4: know is not very generous of me sometimes. So we

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Speaker 4: thought we'd talked to doctor Bryan Betty just to clear

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Speaker 4: up some misconceptions. He's with us now, morning Brian.

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Speaker 6: Oh, morning Jack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's just.

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Speaker 4: Start off with what is ADHD.

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Speaker 13: Look, as you're outlined, Look, it's a very complex condition

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Speaker 13: that affects people in a lot of different ways. However

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Speaker 13: you can make some comments about it. So it's what

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Speaker 13: we call a neurodevelopmental disorder, and it affects It can

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Speaker 13: affect people of any age, but especially children. Now, what

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Speaker 13: it does, it affects what we call executive functions, so

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Speaker 13: that ability to maintain intention, control impulses, and often memories

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Speaker 13: of acted and so people find often find it very

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Speaker 13: hard to concentrate, follow instructions and stay organized. Now that

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Speaker 13: the problem, the rise is there, and we've got to

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Speaker 13: be really, really clear about this. This is a processing issue.

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Speaker 13: It is not laziness, it's not like a discipline. It's

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Speaker 13: rather just this issue with brain processing that has developed.

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Speaker 13: So we've got to be very very careful about our

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Speaker 13: labeling of this and what exactly it is, because it

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Speaker 13: is very very real.

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Speaker 4: And what are the different types and symptoms?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so look, it falls into two main clusters. So

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Speaker 13: one is mainly inattentive, So that's that struggling with attention

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Speaker 13: and focus, staying on task, following instructions. The other one

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Speaker 13: is what we call hyperactiveal and impulsive that may feel restless,

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Speaker 13: very fidgety, act without thinking about consequences. So just just

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Speaker 13: really for that impulsive behavior, or you may have a

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Speaker 13: combination of two, so it becomes across both spectrums. So

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Speaker 13: what people may see or start to think about it

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Speaker 13: and they see people are forgetful, maybe time management is poor,

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Speaker 13: difficulty organizing daily activities, or just making careless mistakes, and

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Speaker 13: so those are often the sort of symptoms that people

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Speaker 13: start to pick up on.

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Speaker 4: See like you hear that, and I think, man, find

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Speaker 4: me a seven year old boy who doesn't have ideas,

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Speaker 4: you know, honestly though, I think about you know how boy,

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Speaker 4: when I think about you know, his friends, I think

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Speaker 4: about what I was like as a kid, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that tic tic to tick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So look, you've made a really good point there that

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Speaker 13: that kids, yeah, show all those those behaviors at times.

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Speaker 13: It's when those behaviors really start to interfere with functioning

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Speaker 13: like learning at school or doing things over a period

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Speaker 13: of time, or start to interfere with functioning as an adult,

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Speaker 13: like keeping jobs or just just doing doing things that

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Speaker 13: we'd expect. So, yeah, it's the degree to which it

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Speaker 13: affects people as things. So you're quite right, those things

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Speaker 13: can be normal, and children's development it's that extension.

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Speaker 4: So what actually causes it.

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Speaker 13: Well, look it's unclear, but it's probably a combination of

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Speaker 13: genetic issues and in combination with environment. So what we

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Speaker 13: do tend to see it can run in families, and

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Speaker 13: there is some evidence to say, look, there may be

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Speaker 13: some difference in brain structure and chemical transmitters in the brain,

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Speaker 13: so there's some stuff that indicates that. However, environmental factors

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Speaker 13: can play a part. Now, smoking and pregnancy, alcohol and

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Speaker 13: pregnancy and premature birth, those three things have been associated

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Speaker 13: with ADHD, which is why often the messaging about smoking

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Speaker 13: and pregnancy and alcohol and pregnancy is such an issue

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Speaker 13: and that is put out there so ambisation with those things.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, we're hearing a lot about, you know,

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Speaker 4: adults being diagnosed with ADHD and that sort of maybe

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Speaker 4: answering a lot of questions for them that they've had

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Speaker 4: about some of their responses to things over the years.

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Speaker 4: But what are the consequences of ADHD not being treated?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, So what we tend to see in children

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Speaker 13: is having difficulties with behavior at school or learning at

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Speaker 13: school over time. So parents will often come to me

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Speaker 13: and say they're concerned about the fact their child is

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Speaker 13: the behavioral issues. The teachers have raised that the difficulty

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Speaker 13: maybe controlling learning is not what's expected. So you start

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Speaker 13: to trigger and wonder whether this could be going on. However,

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Speaker 13: one of the big issues has not been diagnosed into

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Speaker 13: adulthoods and what we do know about ADHD, it's associated

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Speaker 13: with a much higher risk of ending up in jail,

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Speaker 13: motor vehicle accidents and alcohol and drug abuse. Yeah, but

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Speaker 13: we've got to be careful about this because on the contrary,

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Speaker 13: there are some positives so people that ADHD can be

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Speaker 13: considered often more creative, high energy good sense is humans

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Speaker 13: are enterprise and so there's a bit of the ng

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Speaker 13: and yang thing that can go on with that, but

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Speaker 13: definitely a social impact and undiagnosed ADHD is probably a concern.

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Speaker 4: And what can you do about it?

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Speaker 13: Well, look we've tapped into this. It's often the difficulty

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Speaker 13: is actually diagnosis. So what we do know, and it's

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Speaker 13: quite a difficult diagnosed soften You need access to a

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Speaker 13: psychologist or a specialist psychiatrist. It takes time to make

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Speaker 13: the diagnosis and access in New Zealand is quite restricted,

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Speaker 13: so often it does go hidden. Look, one of the

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Speaker 13: things I'd say, if you're concerned about it, or you're

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Speaker 13: starting to trigger or think about it, please go and

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Speaker 13: see a GP and just have a conversation about it.

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Speaker 13: That's probably the first thing i'd say. To look at

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Speaker 13: what options potentially could be there to look at this

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Speaker 13: as an issue. Certainly in terms of treatment, lifestyle changes

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Speaker 13: are really important, so things like addressing alcoholic drugs for instance,

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Speaker 13: strategies to improve time management, support of friends and family,

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01:11:51,413 --> 01:11:56,333
Speaker 13: exercise and time management, all those things are really really important. However,

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Speaker 13: what we do know is medication has a big, big

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01:12:00,013 --> 01:12:03,253
Speaker 13: role to play, and it can be transformed it with

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Speaker 13: a lot of people in terms of resol resolving symptoms,

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Speaker 13: and it can really really help with concentration and impulsivity,

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Speaker 13: so really really important.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's really interesting. So you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: just trying to be honest, and I know that this

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Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily reflect very well on me, but sometimes I

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Speaker 4: do wonder, you know, I have wondered with ADHD if

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Speaker 4: maybe we're over medicalizing, you know, the condition or the symptoms,

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Speaker 4: especially especially in an age where we all have smartphones, right,

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Speaker 4: so we're all kind of constantly having things vying for

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Speaker 4: our attention, and you know, we're having our psychology used

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Speaker 4: against us and that kind of thing. Is that a risk?

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Speaker 20: You know?

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Speaker 4: Is that an ungenerous Is that simply just an ungenerous perspective.

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Speaker 13: Or no, No, look, I think that's a very real,

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Speaker 13: real perspective. And you see this across a range of things.

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Speaker 13: We're social media and in the media in particularly as well,

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Speaker 13: and sort of drive perceptions that oh, I have a problem,

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Speaker 13: I've got a medical problem. Yeah, when what you're looking

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Speaker 13: at as normal behavior, as we talked about with developmental children,

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Speaker 13: We've got to be very careful about this to make

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Speaker 13: the differentiation what's normal and what's not, which is why

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Speaker 13: with ADHD we've got we we do need specialists who

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Speaker 13: specialize in this area to really make the diagnosis because

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Speaker 13: it is quite complex to sift through that and say, yes,

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Speaker 13: that is where this sits, or no it's not. It's

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Speaker 13: part of a normal behavior spectrum. So yeah, complex in

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Speaker 13: terms of what you're saying, Jack, and not unreasonable than

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Speaker 13: what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just a case of being careful and

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Speaker 4: actually getting expert diagnoses as well, isn't it. Hey, thank

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Speaker 4: you so much. We really appreciate it. Brian. That's doctor Brian. Betty.

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Speaker 4: It is nine minutes to eleven gardening.

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Speaker 1: With still sharp, massive field days savings on still tools now, ah.

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Speaker 4: Man in the Gardener's Rude Climb passed Gelder Rude Cura.

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Speaker 17: Jack, I mean an absolutely beautiful garden here in Vannickburn

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01:13:54,173 --> 01:13:56,613
Speaker 17: from some friends of mine, and it's just gorgeous that

1443
01:13:56,733 --> 01:13:58,693
Speaker 17: tooys are everywhere at bell Berts.

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01:13:58,453 --> 01:13:58,853
Speaker 7: You name it.

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01:13:58,973 --> 01:14:01,133
Speaker 4: Oh, how lovely? How long are you there for?

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01:14:02,213 --> 01:14:04,493
Speaker 17: I've been here? I wasn't a Kiwi Hui this week

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01:14:04,573 --> 01:14:08,213
Speaker 17: in Queenstown and I'm here today and after we've finished,

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01:14:08,293 --> 01:14:10,733
Speaker 17: I'm driving back to Julie because I think it's time

1449
01:14:10,733 --> 01:14:11,373
Speaker 17: for me to go home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't it. I mean, I feel like Central Targo's

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01:14:14,853 --> 01:14:18,053
Speaker 4: home at home we all wish for, isn't it.

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01:14:18,693 --> 01:14:21,493
Speaker 17: Don't worry, That's what I think too. This is exactly

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01:14:21,573 --> 01:14:24,333
Speaker 17: what it is. But yeah, I feel really blessed to

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01:14:24,373 --> 01:14:27,493
Speaker 17: do this. But let's talk about these things, because you

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01:14:27,573 --> 01:14:30,613
Speaker 17: know what they've got here. I mean, Karen and Garrett

1456
01:14:30,653 --> 01:14:33,213
Speaker 17: have got these these two weeks feeding in these these

1457
01:14:33,493 --> 01:14:37,333
Speaker 17: nectar bowls and they are made from sugar water, and

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01:14:37,453 --> 01:14:40,613
Speaker 17: it's unbelievable to see how they actually appreciate these sort

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01:14:40,653 --> 01:14:43,493
Speaker 17: of things. But it's not just them, it's it's it's

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Speaker 17: the bell birds as well, but also the silverized.

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01:14:46,973 --> 01:14:49,173
Speaker 4: Well, especially at this time of year, right because it's freezer.

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01:14:49,253 --> 01:14:53,693
Speaker 4: You know, Central Target's freezing, but it's cold everywhere. Yeah, exactly.

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01:14:54,053 --> 01:14:55,693
Speaker 17: So it's a couple of things. You can do something

1464
01:14:55,773 --> 01:14:58,053
Speaker 17: about birds. So you know, even just talked about Kiwi

1465
01:14:58,093 --> 01:14:59,813
Speaker 17: all week, I thought I'm going to talk about different

1466
01:14:59,813 --> 01:15:02,493
Speaker 17: birds for a change, and these birds really need to

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01:15:02,533 --> 01:15:05,133
Speaker 17: be supported for into I feel if you really want

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01:15:05,173 --> 01:15:07,733
Speaker 17: to keep them in your garden, and that I think

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01:15:07,813 --> 01:15:12,853
Speaker 17: should be the gig very simple. The gig is that,

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01:15:12,973 --> 01:15:15,293
Speaker 17: for instance, if you have a lot of silver eyes

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01:15:15,373 --> 01:15:18,653
Speaker 17: in the garden right now, and you keep on providing

1472
01:15:18,693 --> 01:15:21,253
Speaker 17: them with food, they will come back time and time

1473
01:15:21,333 --> 01:15:25,333
Speaker 17: again until it's breeding time, right and then what happens

1474
01:15:25,413 --> 01:15:28,453
Speaker 17: is they kind of disappear, They become quiet, They make

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01:15:28,493 --> 01:15:31,573
Speaker 17: sure you don't find the nest, but they are still there.

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01:15:31,973 --> 01:15:34,413
Speaker 17: And what they do in summer once they know where

1477
01:15:34,413 --> 01:15:36,853
Speaker 17: your garden is what they do in summer is they

1478
01:15:37,133 --> 01:15:42,013
Speaker 17: eat aports, media bugs, all sorts of other pests, scale insects,

1479
01:15:42,533 --> 01:15:44,973
Speaker 17: and they actually do your pest control for you. And

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01:15:45,053 --> 01:15:46,533
Speaker 17: may I say they do it for free.

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01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:47,133
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:15:47,373 --> 01:15:50,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you want to sit up, if you

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01:15:50,413 --> 01:15:52,773
Speaker 4: want to set up feeding for birds, what should we

1484
01:15:52,853 --> 01:15:54,613
Speaker 4: be doing? Obviously, sugar water is a good option.

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01:15:55,373 --> 01:16:00,133
Speaker 17: Yeah, not honeywater. That's actually against the law with diseases

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01:16:00,173 --> 01:16:03,173
Speaker 17: of bird bees and all that. Yeah, but yeah, sugar

1487
01:16:03,253 --> 01:16:06,013
Speaker 17: water and on a regular basis, and that sugar water

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01:16:06,093 --> 01:16:07,893
Speaker 17: needs to be replenished every now and then, but they

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01:16:08,013 --> 01:16:10,533
Speaker 17: usually get rid of it anyway. So that's number one.

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01:16:11,093 --> 01:16:15,413
Speaker 17: Number two is plants, trees and shrubs that are flowering

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01:16:15,453 --> 01:16:17,933
Speaker 17: at this time of the year and give you natural nectar.

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01:16:18,573 --> 01:16:21,973
Speaker 17: You know, things like the sassi and stuff like you

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01:16:22,053 --> 01:16:25,453
Speaker 17: collicked this. Some pool really is at flowering at the moment. Banks, yeah,

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Speaker 17: ares are flowering. That all helps. And those are really

1495
01:16:29,413 --> 01:16:31,173
Speaker 17: nice things to consider right now. If you don't know

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01:16:31,213 --> 01:16:34,293
Speaker 17: what the plant in your garden, think about this right now,

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Speaker 17: and you will be absolutely stunned for the rest of

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Speaker 17: your life with all these creatures coming around.

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Speaker 4: What about leaving some seeds out in that kind of thing.

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01:16:41,973 --> 01:16:44,533
Speaker 4: You shouldn't leave three to day no bread.

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01:16:45,293 --> 01:16:47,373
Speaker 17: When the bird eat bread and it becomes wet, you know,

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01:16:47,493 --> 01:16:49,893
Speaker 17: for instance, they drink water, it swells up in their

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01:16:49,973 --> 01:16:52,733
Speaker 17: stomach and that causes all sorts of stomach problems. I mean,

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01:16:52,773 --> 01:16:55,653
Speaker 17: you can talk about ADHD, but this is really bad,

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01:16:55,933 --> 01:16:58,813
Speaker 17: you know, So that's not good. And the other thing

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01:16:58,893 --> 01:17:02,733
Speaker 17: is the light blocks, if you like, and things like that.

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01:17:03,053 --> 01:17:05,333
Speaker 17: That is quite often the way to go as well,

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01:17:05,773 --> 01:17:09,453
Speaker 17: dripping made into light blocks. I've put some pictures on

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01:17:09,493 --> 01:17:11,893
Speaker 17: the website people can see how it works. And the

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01:17:12,013 --> 01:17:15,053
Speaker 17: other thing is the mad butcher uses old offcuts of

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01:17:15,253 --> 01:17:18,613
Speaker 17: rubbishy meat and puts it together and boy do they

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Speaker 17: love their Oh just wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: The key though is to make sure you're putting in

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01:17:23,493 --> 01:17:26,373
Speaker 4: an elevated spot where the rats can't get to. You

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01:17:26,453 --> 01:17:28,213
Speaker 4: want to make sure you're feeding the birds, but not

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01:17:28,933 --> 01:17:32,573
Speaker 4: various other wildlife around your place. To right there, Hey,

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Speaker 4: thanks rude, Travel home safely. Road climb passed in the

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Speaker 4: garden for us. After eleven we're on a trip on

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Speaker 4: the world's newest cruise ship. News is next though, I'm

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Speaker 4: Jack Tamed. This is News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with jackdam keeping the conversation going through the

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Speaker 1: weekend with bpure Dot cot dot is here for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements US Talks bre Inna.

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Speaker 4: Good morning and welcome to News Talks Z'DB. Yeah, they

1526
01:18:19,733 --> 01:18:22,533
Speaker 4: did the right thing. I'm very pleased that they waited

1527
01:18:22,573 --> 01:18:26,013
Speaker 4: with the scheduling for the Super Rugby semifinals to work

1528
01:18:26,093 --> 01:18:29,733
Speaker 4: out exactly what New Zealand teams might be playing or

1529
01:18:29,813 --> 01:18:33,293
Speaker 4: potentially playing at the same time as the Warriors. Tonight

1530
01:18:33,493 --> 01:18:36,893
Speaker 4: have sold out sold out game for the Warriors at

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01:18:37,013 --> 01:18:40,773
Speaker 4: Mount Smart Stadium against the Melbourne Storm. Always very tricky

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01:18:40,853 --> 01:18:43,333
Speaker 4: playing the Melbourne Storm, but hopefully that home crowd will

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01:18:43,373 --> 01:18:45,813
Speaker 4: bring them home. That's at seven thirty tonight. That means

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01:18:46,413 --> 01:18:49,053
Speaker 4: that they decided to have the Super Rugby semi final

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01:18:49,213 --> 01:18:52,533
Speaker 4: this afternoon the Caines Chiefs at four point thirty, which

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01:18:52,573 --> 01:18:54,453
Speaker 4: is fantastic. I just love that they do that. So

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01:18:54,653 --> 01:18:56,973
Speaker 4: we should be able to stack up our sporting afternoon.

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01:18:57,053 --> 01:19:02,413
Speaker 4: The black Caps kick off at Helbus twelve. Not maybe

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01:19:02,613 --> 01:19:05,493
Speaker 4: a must watch game against Uganda given we've been kicked

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01:19:05,493 --> 01:19:08,093
Speaker 4: out of the T T furnament, but hey maybe then

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01:19:08,173 --> 01:19:10,453
Speaker 4: You've got the Super Rugby at four point thirty of

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01:19:10,493 --> 01:19:13,613
Speaker 4: the Warriors this evening, So an awesome afternoon of sport

1543
01:19:13,693 --> 01:19:16,213
Speaker 4: lined up. We're going to catch up with Jason behind

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01:19:16,573 --> 01:19:18,933
Speaker 4: Jason Pine ahead of weekends sport very shortly as well

1545
01:19:18,973 --> 01:19:22,053
Speaker 4: as that, before midday, we're gonna play you some new

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01:19:22,133 --> 01:19:26,173
Speaker 4: music from Nigerian musician Thames. She's got a really interesting,

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Speaker 4: kind of unique, beautiful sound, so looking forward to playing

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Speaker 4: you that plus a virtual trip on the world's newest

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Speaker 4: cruise ship very shortly. Right now, it is nine minutes

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Speaker 4: past eleven, Jack and Job and Security is facing a

1551
01:19:40,413 --> 01:19:42,493
Speaker 4: lot of people at the moment. I think unemployment in

1552
01:19:42,493 --> 01:19:45,173
Speaker 4: New Zealands at about four point three percent. They're expecting

1553
01:19:45,173 --> 01:19:47,093
Speaker 4: it to get about five point three percent, So it's

1554
01:19:47,093 --> 01:19:49,053
Speaker 4: going to be a really tricky twelve months or so.

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Speaker 4: And we wanted to talk to Google Sutherland, a psychologist

1556
01:19:53,493 --> 01:19:56,053
Speaker 4: from Umbrella Well Being, about the different ways in which

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01:19:56,093 --> 01:20:00,253
Speaker 4: it impacts upon both employees and employers. And this Doogle,

1558
01:20:00,533 --> 01:20:02,933
Speaker 4: sadly is very very topical.

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01:20:04,173 --> 01:20:05,213
Speaker 5: Cure. Yes it is.

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Speaker 7: It's you know, I was thinking that a year two

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01:20:08,373 --> 01:20:10,853
Speaker 7: years ago. We're in this great job market, you know,

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01:20:11,053 --> 01:20:14,493
Speaker 7: lots of jobs and plenty of opportunity, and now that's

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01:20:14,533 --> 01:20:18,333
Speaker 7: almost done a complete one acy, and there's lots of

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01:20:18,373 --> 01:20:20,493
Speaker 7: people that are worried about their job, worried about might

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01:20:20,773 --> 01:20:24,693
Speaker 7: what happened, what might happen for them or for their colleagues.

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Speaker 7: So it's a yeah, it's a completely different ball game

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01:20:28,053 --> 01:20:28,693
Speaker 7: of the monment, and you.

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Speaker 4: Reckon that job and security can be can be kind

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01:20:31,413 --> 01:20:35,413
Speaker 4: of relatively easily divided into two big kinds, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if we ever sort of put too much faith

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01:20:39,573 --> 01:20:42,573
Speaker 7: in dividing things into what into into.

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01:20:42,493 --> 01:20:43,373
Speaker 5: Sort of broad areas.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, one is about losing your job, you know,

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01:20:46,693 --> 01:20:51,453
Speaker 7: completely becoming made redundant, and the other is about losing

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01:20:51,733 --> 01:20:54,213
Speaker 7: bits of the job that you really like. And that

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01:20:54,413 --> 01:20:57,093
Speaker 7: might be you know, you might be facing some cutback

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01:20:57,133 --> 01:20:59,693
Speaker 7: in hours, or it could be that you're changing in

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01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:03,013
Speaker 7: working conditions, like you know, everybody has to work from

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01:21:03,133 --> 01:21:05,933
Speaker 7: the office now, not at home. It might even be

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01:21:06,013 --> 01:21:09,213
Speaker 7: that you know, you're worried about losing good friends and

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01:21:09,293 --> 01:21:13,733
Speaker 7: colleagues that you work with. And so I think both

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01:21:13,853 --> 01:21:18,373
Speaker 7: of those can can manifest in two ways. One, you

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01:21:18,453 --> 01:21:20,653
Speaker 7: can sort of spend a lot of time worrying about that,

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01:21:20,893 --> 01:21:24,653
Speaker 7: and as we often call that, we often think of

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01:21:24,733 --> 01:21:28,973
Speaker 7: that as that that time that you spent at work

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01:21:29,053 --> 01:21:32,093
Speaker 7: when you're really should be on your working at your job,

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01:21:32,173 --> 01:21:37,213
Speaker 7: but your mind is distracted and elsewhere we call that presentism.

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01:21:38,213 --> 01:21:40,173
Speaker 7: And then the other thing is of course emotions that

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01:21:40,253 --> 01:21:41,293
Speaker 7: there's lots of emotions that.

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Speaker 3: Go on with that.

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Speaker 7: And we notice a lot of people overlook the role

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01:21:44,973 --> 01:21:47,213
Speaker 7: of or the fact that they might feel a lot

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01:21:47,253 --> 01:21:49,973
Speaker 7: of grief around losing their job or losing aspects of

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Speaker 7: their job.

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01:21:50,373 --> 01:21:53,573
Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting, Yeah, So people aren't necessarily aware that

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01:21:53,653 --> 01:21:55,493
Speaker 4: that we feel in grief. I mean, anger is kind

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01:21:55,533 --> 01:21:58,253
Speaker 4: of understandable, right, and anxiety about you know, about the

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01:21:58,333 --> 01:22:01,893
Speaker 4: future but grief is a significant one as well, and

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Speaker 4: it can have like a really significant impact on relationships

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Speaker 4: among staff, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it can. It's you know, either you're

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01:22:13,333 --> 01:22:15,773
Speaker 7: kind of all competing for the same jobs, like if

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01:22:15,813 --> 01:22:18,253
Speaker 7: they say, well, we're going to reduce our staff and

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01:22:18,293 --> 01:22:20,893
Speaker 7: from ten to sex, well that you're all competing or.

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Speaker 5: Survive.

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Speaker 7: The guilt's another one where you you have have rantaged

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01:22:26,773 --> 01:22:29,973
Speaker 7: to retain your position, but your friends and colleagues haven't.

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01:22:31,893 --> 01:22:34,053
Speaker 7: And you can also get into the situation where people

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01:22:34,213 --> 01:22:37,013
Speaker 7: want to, you know, if they're feeling insecure. The best

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01:22:37,053 --> 01:22:38,453
Speaker 7: thing I can do is be the best sort of

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01:22:38,493 --> 01:22:41,853
Speaker 7: worker I can be at work and really shine compared

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01:22:41,893 --> 01:22:47,413
Speaker 7: to other people, which there is nothing wrong and necessarily inherently,

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01:22:47,493 --> 01:22:49,533
Speaker 7: but it might put you off side with your coworkers.

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01:22:49,573 --> 01:22:51,573
Speaker 7: It's seem to be sort of sucking up and being

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01:22:51,653 --> 01:22:53,853
Speaker 7: the teacher's pet and trying to do everything. Oh, don't

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01:22:53,853 --> 01:22:56,373
Speaker 7: worry about how I'll work for extra but for no money.

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01:22:56,413 --> 01:22:59,213
Speaker 7: You don't have to pay me for that, which which

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01:22:59,253 --> 01:23:02,053
Speaker 7: an employeer might like, but other employees might. You might

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01:23:02,093 --> 01:23:05,293
Speaker 7: get on the wrong side that no love that at all.

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01:23:05,493 --> 01:23:07,053
Speaker 4: So what can you do about.

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01:23:08,853 --> 01:23:12,333
Speaker 7: Well, you know, ideally you would just reduce uncertainty as

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01:23:12,413 --> 01:23:15,453
Speaker 7: much as possible, but we don't live in La la land.

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01:23:16,133 --> 01:23:18,453
Speaker 7: There's lots of unsurfaty at the moment that people just

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01:23:19,093 --> 01:23:24,613
Speaker 7: can't control. I think for employees two key things is one,

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01:23:24,733 --> 01:23:28,853
Speaker 7: focus on the aspects of the situation that you can control,

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01:23:29,053 --> 01:23:32,653
Speaker 7: and that might be that might be small, and it

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01:23:32,773 --> 01:23:36,853
Speaker 7: might even be things like preparing your CV for you know,

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01:23:36,933 --> 01:23:39,773
Speaker 7: you may have been a job for ten years or

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01:23:39,813 --> 01:23:42,173
Speaker 7: so and haven't actually had to refresh your CV, but

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01:23:42,253 --> 01:23:44,773
Speaker 7: at least you can console that. And when people have

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01:23:44,893 --> 01:23:48,893
Speaker 7: a sense of control, that can reduce that feeling of

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01:23:48,973 --> 01:23:49,853
Speaker 7: worry that they have.

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Speaker 5: And also the other thing.

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01:23:53,093 --> 01:23:57,133
Speaker 7: I would say to employees is as much as possible,

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01:23:57,773 --> 01:24:00,573
Speaker 7: we notice when your attention has got shifted to that

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01:24:01,053 --> 01:24:03,213
Speaker 7: the black hole of the problem. I'm going to lose

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01:24:03,253 --> 01:24:03,573
Speaker 7: my job.

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01:24:03,653 --> 01:24:05,013
Speaker 5: I'm going to lose this and.

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01:24:05,373 --> 01:24:08,493
Speaker 7: Move it to folks on what could happen after that,

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01:24:09,653 --> 01:24:12,653
Speaker 7: because you probably can't do much about that uncontrollable black hole,

1641
01:24:12,733 --> 01:24:14,333
Speaker 7: but there are things you might be able to do

1642
01:24:14,453 --> 01:24:17,173
Speaker 7: about the future, and it can just give you a

1643
01:24:17,213 --> 01:24:20,973
Speaker 7: little more sense of hopefulness if you're focusing on the

1644
01:24:21,053 --> 01:24:26,853
Speaker 7: future a bit more, what about employers, Well, employers again

1645
01:24:27,293 --> 01:24:32,813
Speaker 7: we realize that sometimes you know, managers and sees they

1646
01:24:32,933 --> 01:24:36,213
Speaker 7: might want to reduce uncertainty, but it's not always possible

1647
01:24:36,213 --> 01:24:42,093
Speaker 7: because you're answering to higher powers. I think two things.

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01:24:42,253 --> 01:24:42,893
Speaker 6: One is.

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01:24:44,813 --> 01:24:46,413
Speaker 5: Trying to give people.

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01:24:46,253 --> 01:24:52,893
Speaker 7: As much certainty and information as as you can. Sometimes

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01:24:52,933 --> 01:24:55,213
Speaker 7: when organizations are going through change, they tend to sort

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01:24:55,213 --> 01:24:58,133
Speaker 7: of drop down on communications because, oh world, there's nothing

1653
01:24:58,213 --> 01:25:01,733
Speaker 7: new to tell people, and therefore what's the point. Actually

1654
01:25:02,413 --> 01:25:05,173
Speaker 7: the information that you can convey in that situation is

1655
01:25:05,253 --> 01:25:08,493
Speaker 7: there's still no new, it's still the same, because I'm

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01:25:08,533 --> 01:25:11,493
Speaker 7: sure you've had it too. That in that void of information,

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01:25:11,693 --> 01:25:14,813
Speaker 7: that's where rumors and all sorts of speculation can start

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01:25:14,933 --> 01:25:19,773
Speaker 7: to grow totally, and that's not particularly helpful. So communicating

1659
01:25:19,813 --> 01:25:22,173
Speaker 7: even when you haven't got anything much to communicate about,

1660
01:25:22,653 --> 01:25:27,533
Speaker 7: and focus on trying to maintain relationships and trying to

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01:25:27,613 --> 01:25:31,373
Speaker 7: make the workplace as comfortable and as supportive as you

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01:25:31,493 --> 01:25:33,493
Speaker 7: possibly can. We saw a bit of this actually with

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01:25:33,733 --> 01:25:36,693
Speaker 7: organizations around COVID. I think that when they did things

1664
01:25:36,773 --> 01:25:39,173
Speaker 7: like they said, hey, look well, actually sorry, not COVID

1665
01:25:39,213 --> 01:25:41,573
Speaker 7: so much christ to its earthquakes, they quite a lot

1666
01:25:41,613 --> 01:25:45,133
Speaker 7: of leniency in workplaces, saying hey, look, we realize it's

1667
01:25:45,173 --> 01:25:48,293
Speaker 7: really difficult, you know, to get hold of your insurance company,

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01:25:48,373 --> 01:25:50,533
Speaker 7: So take some time during the day to do that

1669
01:25:51,773 --> 01:25:54,293
Speaker 7: if you need to. And that sort of flexible approach

1670
01:25:54,413 --> 01:25:58,373
Speaker 7: can help. Just it's a bit more human and recognizes that, actually,

1671
01:25:58,373 --> 01:26:00,493
Speaker 7: you've got humans that are worried and need to do

1672
01:26:00,653 --> 01:26:02,493
Speaker 7: things in their life, and we need to make some

1673
01:26:02,613 --> 01:26:03,333
Speaker 7: allowances for that.

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01:26:03,693 --> 01:26:07,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you find that people like I'm just trying

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01:26:07,973 --> 01:26:10,413
Speaker 4: I'm trying to put myself in in you know, the

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01:26:10,493 --> 01:26:14,493
Speaker 4: shoes of people who are facing uncertainty with their jobs

1677
01:26:14,533 --> 01:26:16,653
Speaker 4: at the moment. Is it it must be really easy

1678
01:26:16,693 --> 01:26:20,173
Speaker 4: to catastrophize, like I think I would. I think I

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01:26:20,213 --> 01:26:22,133
Speaker 4: would really freak out and be like, oh my gosh,

1680
01:26:22,213 --> 01:26:24,373
Speaker 4: you know where am I going to you know, like

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01:26:24,693 --> 01:26:26,853
Speaker 4: pay for the mortgage next week kind of thing, and

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01:26:26,973 --> 01:26:28,613
Speaker 4: like look at stuff in a really kind of short

1683
01:26:28,693 --> 01:26:31,333
Speaker 4: time frame, and maybe it can be hard to get perspective.

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01:26:31,453 --> 01:26:35,533
Speaker 7: Is that something you you say, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely,

1685
01:26:35,573 --> 01:26:37,293
Speaker 7: And I'd be in that boat as well. I would

1686
01:26:37,293 --> 01:26:39,053
Speaker 7: be one of those people that's, oh my god, you know,

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01:26:39,133 --> 01:26:40,733
Speaker 7: we'll be living in a shoe box out the back

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01:26:40,773 --> 01:26:41,333
Speaker 7: box somewhere.

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01:26:41,693 --> 01:26:44,333
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I lose my job, Yeah, it is.

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01:26:44,533 --> 01:26:50,933
Speaker 7: I think often sharing those thoughts and worries with somebody

1691
01:26:51,053 --> 01:26:54,493
Speaker 7: else who's a little bit more removed, whether that's a

1692
01:26:54,573 --> 01:26:58,613
Speaker 7: senior colleague or you might or just just a good

1693
01:26:58,693 --> 01:27:01,333
Speaker 7: friend who's that slight but removed.

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01:27:01,613 --> 01:27:03,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, tend to make a difference.

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01:27:03,053 --> 01:27:05,453
Speaker 7: Take the Yeah, it can help take this thing out

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01:27:05,493 --> 01:27:06,813
Speaker 7: of it and they can help be a little more

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01:27:06,853 --> 01:27:09,413
Speaker 7: realistic because they're not quite as emotionally tied up on

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01:27:09,493 --> 01:27:10,093
Speaker 7: it as you are.

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01:27:10,373 --> 01:27:12,773
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good advice. Hey, thank you, dougle I really

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01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:16,693
Speaker 4: appreciate it. That is Dogle Southerland. He is a psychologist

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Speaker 4: with Umbrella Well Being. If you want to get in touch,

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Speaker 4: The Worldyardly is our travel correspondent killed a Mike killer Jack.

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Speaker 5: I think it's the canes against the chief.

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Speaker 20: Ah.

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Speaker 4: I was wondering if you were even going to mention

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Speaker 4: super Rugby because it is a weird thing being a

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Speaker 4: Crusaders fan getting to the business end of the season

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Speaker 4: seeing lots of New Zealand teams and not seeing the

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Speaker 4: Red and Black one. But that's all right. I'm you

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Speaker 4: know what, if I had to pick up the three,

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Speaker 4: I would say, I would say Canes, but heat and Hart.

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Speaker 4: I want the Canes to win, and I think that

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Speaker 4: they will win. Yeah, Canes, But you know what, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: The Chiefs have been kind of flying under the radar

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Speaker 4: a little bit the season, so you never know, you

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Speaker 4: never know, But yes, very much looking forward to that

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Speaker 4: this afternoon and awesome afternoon of sport lined up from anyway,

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Speaker 4: this morning we are focusing on the Sun Princess, the

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Speaker 4: world's newest cruise ship, and you have been fortunate enough

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Speaker 4: to go for a bit of a sale. So how

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Speaker 4: big is the shiny new flagship.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not the biggest in the world Jack, which

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Speaker 5: is the domain of Icon of the Seas at last report.

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Speaker 5: But for Princess Cruises, the Sun as the biggest ship

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Speaker 5: they have ever launched into their fleet. It carries four

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Speaker 5: three hundred passengers sixteen hundred crew, she's twenty decks high

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Speaker 5: and she weighs in a one hundred and seventy seventy

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Speaker 5: thousand ton. That's a lot of elephants the whop. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: is that a mega?

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Speaker 4: Does that make an a mega shout?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely is a megash. Yeah. The thing which

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Speaker 5: really stands out though about what they call as the

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Speaker 5: next level Love Boat is the fact that it's environmental

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Speaker 5: footprint is just so lot, so much lighter than all

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Speaker 5: of its predecessors. That's really where the changes have been made.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So how much of a step change is the ship?

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Speaker 9: Then?

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Speaker 4: To talk to us about some of those changes that

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Speaker 4: kind of distinguish it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I think the big takeaway festival Jack is

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Speaker 5: the fuel source. It is not diesel. It is not dirty,

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Speaker 5: dirty diesel, So they've switched to liquor fied natural gas

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Speaker 5: for some princess. And what constantly struck me is, particularly

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Speaker 5: when you're maneuvering in and out of ports, it's silent.

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Speaker 5: The ship is silent like an EV on the seas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, so, yeah, compared to the familiar rumble of

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Speaker 5: a diesel powered engine. You just don't get that. And

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Speaker 5: you don't see any fumes, any black smoke from its funnel. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So I think that's fabulous Ultimately, though, I think this

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Speaker 5: is just sort of a step along the wa way. Ultimately,

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Speaker 5: I reckon you will see cruise ships pivot to hydrogen

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Speaker 5: in the medium term, but across all departments of board

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Speaker 5: Some Princess, I just saw so many changes being made

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Speaker 5: to lower the footprints. For example, they've got twenty six

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Speaker 5: bio digesters on board this ship, so that breaks down

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Speaker 5: and liquifies all of the uneaten food and returns it

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Speaker 5: to nature in liquid form to feed the very happy

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Speaker 5: fish below. So I don't know if that's giving back

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Speaker 5: or paying it forward, but the fish are happy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that's interesting. Okay. Has the buffet survived the

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Speaker 4: covid age on Princess?

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Speaker 5: Well, this was my biggest fascination as I jumped on

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Speaker 5: board Some Princess, because I reckon it was an even

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Speaker 5: bet whether the ship buffet would see the light of

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Speaker 5: day again. But on Some Princess they have gone with

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Speaker 5: a different sort of buffet. The self serve is gone Burger,

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Speaker 5: so instead their buffet restaurant consists of the whole lot

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Speaker 5: of food stations with glassed off serving areas, so you

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Speaker 5: just pick and point at what you want the staff

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Speaker 5: to plate up for you. But interestingly it has triggered

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Speaker 5: a very welcome plunge in daily food waste. So that

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Speaker 5: is a very mindful buffet, I think.

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Speaker 6: Jack ah.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so just to explain that to me, So you

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Speaker 4: you arrive at the restaurant and what happens.

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Speaker 5: Yep, you walk away around all the various food stations thinking, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: like one of those, one of those, one of those.

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Speaker 5: So you just pick and point and the staff will

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Speaker 5: place it up for you. So you're not actually handling

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Speaker 5: it yourself.

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Speaker 4: Sure, so for example, you won't have one.

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Speaker 5: Hundred and fifty grubby myths using the same food utensils,

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Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean that makes also yeah, it does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it has also seem to have curbed gluttony

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Speaker 5: to the point where you know, you'll pile your own

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Speaker 5: plate up with heaps of stuff and end up biffing

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Speaker 5: half of it. That is not happening now, So that's

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Speaker 5: very good.

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Speaker 4: That is really interesting. That's sort of running of it.

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Speaker 4: So it says a lot about human psychology, right that

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Speaker 4: you can you can still technically eat as much as

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Speaker 4: you want, but when it's someone else serving it to

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Speaker 4: you and you're going back to the eleventh time for

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Speaker 4: your twenty fourth piece of bread pudding or whatever. Then

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Speaker 4: they're going, actually, maybe maybe there's something in that. This says,

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Speaker 4: you know, some party, this is maybe that's enough. So

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Speaker 4: how many bars and restaurants are actually on board?

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Speaker 5: Well, you've got thirty thirty choices, that's your disposal, Jack.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, if you're a sort of cruiser who doesn't

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Speaker 5: want to eat at the same place twice, Son, Princess

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Speaker 5: is for you. Absolutely. And I've really rammed up destination

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Speaker 5: dining offerings. So there's lots of celebrity collaborations. One that

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Speaker 5: really impressed me. It was a place called the Butcher's

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Speaker 5: Block by Dario and that's curated by that celebrity Tuscan butcher,

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Speaker 5: Dario Kacini. And if you've seen Netflix's Chef's Table, he

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Speaker 5: features on that. By the way. On the snacks front,

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Speaker 5: I was very impressed by the Agilitia Jack, And the

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Speaker 5: thing about this is it's the real deal. Gelato on

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Speaker 5: board the ship, certified by the Italian government, no less.

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Speaker 4: Very good with that kind of elastic quality that we love.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, okay, so what was your favorite experience?

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Speaker 5: Well, the most mesmerizing experience for me would have been

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Speaker 5: Spellbound by Magic Castle, and as the name suggests, it

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Speaker 5: was created in partnership with that famed Hollywood venue, Magic Castle,

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Speaker 5: which is the exclusive academy for aspiring magicians in the world.

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Speaker 5: And the thing about Spellbound on the Shipjack is you

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Speaker 5: get really good dining, amazing mixology, but the live magic

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Speaker 5: is performed in this beautifully designed Victorian theme to venue,

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Speaker 5: complete with a piano playing ghost and the close up,

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Speaker 5: intimate cabaret magic just left me dumbfounded. I felt like

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Speaker 5: a judge on Britain Scott Talent and I was just

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Speaker 5: totally blown away by the wizardry of the tricks. In fact,

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Speaker 5: there were a couple of magicians on Britain's Got Talent

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Speaker 5: last night and it was very, very similar the tricks

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Speaker 5: they were doing. Really so I'm totally really interesting. I'm

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Speaker 5: still scratching my head over how they did what they did.

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Speaker 5: It was absolutely extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: So she is a big ship? Is she a beautiful ship?

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Speaker 5: So many architectural flourishes, and I just loved the fact

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Speaker 5: that you end up feeling like you are floating on

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Speaker 5: a giant glasshouse. So at the top of the ship,

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Speaker 5: I've got this amazing structure called the Dome, and it's

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Speaker 5: this multi level glass enclosed structure and it actually drew

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Speaker 5: its inspiration from the terraces of Centerini. So by day

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Speaker 5: it's this terrorist porm space and then it transforms at

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Speaker 5: night into a show stage under the stars. Another star

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Speaker 5: feature is the Sphere, which is this gigantic glass bubble

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Speaker 5: protruding beyond the sides of the ship sort of midship,

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Speaker 5: and it spans ten decks, this bubble. But it very

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Speaker 5: much is all about embracing you know, those ocean views.

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Speaker 5: It really is quite amazing.

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Speaker 4: And where is she sailing.

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Speaker 5: In the Mediterranean for the European summer and then she'll

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Speaker 5: be off to the Caribbean for the northern winter and

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Speaker 5: her sister ship, the Star Princess, is going to be

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Speaker 5: launched next year. Very much the same sort of specimen,

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Speaker 5: you know, in terms of design. But the thing which

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Speaker 5: really was the takeaway for me, Jack is it's a

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Speaker 5: venue packed ship. And because of that, even though it

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Speaker 5: had four thousand guests or more on board, I never

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Speaker 5: actually felt like I was competing for space. Surprisingly. That

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Speaker 5: was the thing I wondered about. Yeah, and yeah, those

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Speaker 5: those funnels no diesel fumes.

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Speaker 2: Very very welcome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's really good that there's enough. You feel

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Speaker 4: like there's enough space. You're not all sort of sardined

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Speaker 4: in there together. So Annoyd, So just I don't know

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Speaker 4: if you can go, if you still got a handy Again,

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Speaker 4: how heavy did you say?

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Speaker 5: She was one hundred and seventy seven thousand to.

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Speaker 4: One hundred and seventy seven thousand. So someone's just inflected

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Speaker 4: and and I've quickly googled it to double check. At

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Speaker 4: Mark says the Titanic was fifty two thousand tons, So

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Speaker 4: there you go. The Sun Princess is more than three

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Speaker 4: times the size.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes.

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Speaker 5: By the way, the Icon of the Seas, which I

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Speaker 5: believe is the biggest ship in the world at the moment,

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Speaker 5: is two hundred and thirty thousand tons.

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Speaker 4: Wow, goshn just I just, I mean, I know, necessarily,

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Speaker 4: but I just find it amazing these things float. It's

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Speaker 4: just I know, yeah, our cathos flick. There's a note

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Speaker 4: turn says, don't forget to mention the lifts. Does that

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Speaker 4: make the listing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, very cool. It's all very technology aboard some princess.

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Speaker 5: So you're wear these medallions and they have all sorts

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Speaker 5: of wayfinding functionality and whatnot. But when you approach the lifts,

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Speaker 5: you select what level you want to go to before

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Speaker 5: you actually go into the year, so it will choose

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Speaker 5: a lift for you and get you up to where

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Speaker 5: you want to go way fast.

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Speaker 4: I love that they have that in kind of some

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Speaker 4: modern office buildings now as well.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, and so you press the thing first and

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Speaker 4: then it actually works out the most efficient way to

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Speaker 4: do it. I'm all for that. Yeah, Oh it sounds great.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Mike. I'm glad you had a

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Speaker 4: good time. It sounds it sounds like a very enviable trip. Indeed.

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Speaker 4: So that is the Son Princess And you can find

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Speaker 4: more of Mike's tips and insights on sailing aboard the

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Speaker 4: Sun Princess at news talks hedb dot co dot inz

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Speaker 4: Ford slash lifestyle. It is just coming up to eleven thirty.

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Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on news Talks by.

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Speaker 4: News talks 'b. You were Jack tame through it a

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Speaker 4: midday than Jason Pine is with us for a big

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Speaker 4: afternoon on weekends for Kolder Barney Jack I'm not nervous

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Speaker 4: at all about this Super rugby, do you okay? To

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Speaker 4: be fair, I thought you were going to say you're

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Speaker 4: not nervous about the black Caps as they take on

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Speaker 4: New Gander, and I was going to go, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I think I'm with you on that one, even though

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Speaker 4: they haven't had a great tournament. I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 4: For the rugby though, it is a great game to

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Speaker 4: be watching. If you don't have skin in the game,

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Speaker 4: that is oh, look that that is exactly right.

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Speaker 22: Unfortunately, I have plenty of skin going all the way

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Speaker 22: back to nineteen ninety six in this Hurricanes game. So look,

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Speaker 22: I said to Heather yesterday, I think this is a

1917
01:38:41,053 --> 01:38:43,013
Speaker 22: coin flip. If you are hovering above this game and

1918
01:38:43,053 --> 01:38:45,693
Speaker 22: looking down on it and you don't have any you know,

1919
01:38:46,013 --> 01:38:48,613
Speaker 22: necessary bias one or the other, it is a coin flip.

1920
01:38:48,733 --> 01:38:49,573
Speaker 2: It could go either way.

1921
01:38:49,613 --> 01:38:51,933
Speaker 22: Even vern Kotta last night one of the all time

1922
01:38:52,053 --> 01:38:54,933
Speaker 22: great postmatch quotes. He was asked to for other face

1923
01:38:54,973 --> 01:38:56,893
Speaker 22: out of the Hurricanes and the Chiefs, and he said,

1924
01:38:56,893 --> 01:38:59,653
Speaker 22: it's like choosing between getting the plague and cholera.

1925
01:39:01,693 --> 01:39:06,253
Speaker 4: That's gold well that being said. A Chiefs win today

1926
01:39:06,413 --> 01:39:08,693
Speaker 4: would mean the Blues are at home next week, right, yes, yeah,

1927
01:39:08,693 --> 01:39:11,533
Speaker 4: of course and so ye so they're all so for them,

1928
01:39:11,613 --> 01:39:13,453
Speaker 4: of course that's what they want to happen. They would

1929
01:39:13,453 --> 01:39:15,653
Speaker 4: love a home final, of course they would. Yeah, yeah,

1930
01:39:15,893 --> 01:39:18,653
Speaker 4: what do you think it's going to decide it? Fewer mistakes?

1931
01:39:18,693 --> 01:39:20,493
Speaker 22: I think I think the team that makes the fewer

1932
01:39:20,653 --> 01:39:23,973
Speaker 22: errors both you know, stacked with attacking talents in the backs,

1933
01:39:24,053 --> 01:39:28,373
Speaker 22: both very very solid forward packs, both well coached. I

1934
01:39:28,573 --> 01:39:31,213
Speaker 22: just think it's the it's the moments within the eighty

1935
01:39:31,293 --> 01:39:34,853
Speaker 22: minutes that that probably decided. And that's i know, fence

1936
01:39:34,853 --> 01:39:36,893
Speaker 22: sitting a little bit. It's not actually drilling down into

1937
01:39:36,933 --> 01:39:39,493
Speaker 22: any particular part of the game. But in listening to

1938
01:39:39,493 --> 01:39:42,493
Speaker 22: the Hurricanes and their postmatch pre match media this week,

1939
01:39:42,533 --> 01:39:44,253
Speaker 22: saying with the Chiefs, they all say the sort of

1940
01:39:44,293 --> 01:39:46,773
Speaker 22: the same things really that you've got to embrace these

1941
01:39:46,853 --> 01:39:49,293
Speaker 22: moments and it's the ones who grab those moments who will,

1942
01:39:49,933 --> 01:39:52,493
Speaker 22: I guess eventually find their way into a Super Rugby

1943
01:39:52,533 --> 01:39:53,653
Speaker 22: Grand Final next weekend.

1944
01:39:53,693 --> 01:39:54,493
Speaker 5: It's but it's a.

1945
01:39:54,533 --> 01:39:56,933
Speaker 22: Mouth watering prospect. The weather's nice and Wellington and I

1946
01:39:56,973 --> 01:39:59,613
Speaker 22: can tell you Jack it's meant to blow a little bit.

1947
01:39:59,653 --> 01:40:02,453
Speaker 22: But that won't be a surprise to anybody. So yeah, look,

1948
01:40:02,493 --> 01:40:05,213
Speaker 22: I just I'm just very very interested to see how

1949
01:40:05,333 --> 01:40:06,253
Speaker 22: this plays outs.

1950
01:40:06,413 --> 01:40:08,613
Speaker 4: A man who loves his football. Are you going to

1951
01:40:08,653 --> 01:40:10,373
Speaker 4: be getting up at one o'clock in the morning and

1952
01:40:10,453 --> 01:40:12,333
Speaker 4: four o'clock in the morning for the Euros or you

1953
01:40:12,453 --> 01:40:14,053
Speaker 4: just hang around for the seven am game?

1954
01:40:14,173 --> 01:40:14,693
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no.

1955
01:40:14,813 --> 01:40:17,133
Speaker 22: I'm a I'm a three game in a row kind

1956
01:40:17,133 --> 01:40:18,613
Speaker 22: of guy when it comes to these tournaments.

1957
01:40:18,733 --> 01:40:18,893
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1958
01:40:19,253 --> 01:40:22,493
Speaker 22: I always think with tournaments, whether it's football, rugby, whatever

1959
01:40:22,533 --> 01:40:24,493
Speaker 22: it is, that the worst thing that can happen is

1960
01:40:24,573 --> 01:40:25,893
Speaker 22: you can get to the end of the tournament and

1961
01:40:25,973 --> 01:40:29,293
Speaker 22: wish you'd watch more of it live. You know, it's

1962
01:40:29,373 --> 01:40:32,933
Speaker 22: only just started, obviously this morning, with Germany's decimation of Scotland.

1963
01:40:33,333 --> 01:40:35,533
Speaker 22: But you know, the group stages do tend to rush past,

1964
01:40:35,533 --> 01:40:37,253
Speaker 22: and all of a sudden we're into the knockout stages

1965
01:40:37,293 --> 01:40:39,013
Speaker 22: and you think, oh, man, I just all those games,

1966
01:40:39,213 --> 01:40:40,733
Speaker 22: so now I'll be I'll be up and about for

1967
01:40:41,053 --> 01:40:44,053
Speaker 22: most of them. Whether all, you know, whether all I'll

1968
01:40:44,133 --> 01:40:46,653
Speaker 22: stack night after night after night, I guess remains to

1969
01:40:46,693 --> 01:40:49,093
Speaker 22: be seen. But I've got a pretty empty life other

1970
01:40:49,173 --> 01:40:51,013
Speaker 22: than sports. Ex So I reckon I reckon.

1971
01:40:51,053 --> 01:40:55,253
Speaker 4: I'll get no. I'll tell you what this morning was

1972
01:40:55,853 --> 01:41:00,133
Speaker 4: was brutal. It was even like from the word go

1973
01:41:00,333 --> 01:41:02,493
Speaker 4: as well. It wasn't like I think in the first

1974
01:41:02,653 --> 01:41:04,813
Speaker 4: minute the Germans had a shot on goals. You know,

1975
01:41:04,933 --> 01:41:07,973
Speaker 4: it was like, okay, this is We're not hanging around

1976
01:41:08,013 --> 01:41:09,773
Speaker 4: here and we're not looking for a one nil victory.

1977
01:41:09,853 --> 01:41:12,373
Speaker 4: This is going to be this is going to be dominant.

1978
01:41:12,813 --> 01:41:12,973
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1979
01:41:13,013 --> 01:41:15,533
Speaker 22: I heard some of the pre match narrative about Scotland.

1980
01:41:15,573 --> 01:41:17,493
Speaker 22: You know, their best chance of upsetting Germany was in

1981
01:41:17,533 --> 01:41:19,653
Speaker 22: the opening game where there's a lot on the line

1982
01:41:19,693 --> 01:41:22,173
Speaker 22: and you know they might catch them off guard. Well

1983
01:41:22,413 --> 01:41:25,013
Speaker 22: that didn't happen. Getting a man seen oft didn't help

1984
01:41:25,013 --> 01:41:27,213
Speaker 22: the Scots either. I did enjoy the way they celebrated

1985
01:41:27,213 --> 01:41:29,293
Speaker 22: when they scored a golf fans, the fans that is

1986
01:41:29,333 --> 01:41:33,213
Speaker 22: not the players to come back to four. Yeah, that's right,

1987
01:41:33,493 --> 01:41:35,133
Speaker 22: that's right, They've got one in the back of the net. Look,

1988
01:41:35,173 --> 01:41:37,853
Speaker 22: the Scottish fans will have fun in Germany. They might

1989
01:41:37,933 --> 01:41:39,653
Speaker 22: not be there for a long time, but they will

1990
01:41:39,693 --> 01:41:41,213
Speaker 22: have a good time while they are there.

1991
01:41:41,253 --> 01:41:42,133
Speaker 4: And good on them too.

1992
01:41:42,253 --> 01:41:42,453
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1993
01:41:42,493 --> 01:41:44,573
Speaker 22: So it was on the show this afternoon, Super Rugby

1994
01:41:44,613 --> 01:41:46,653
Speaker 22: preview obviously, but first up I want to talk about

1995
01:41:46,653 --> 01:41:48,533
Speaker 22: the State of Origin to New Zealand idea.

1996
01:41:48,733 --> 01:41:49,813
Speaker 2: It's just actually a thing.

1997
01:41:50,133 --> 01:41:51,813
Speaker 22: Could we have a game of State of Origin at

1998
01:41:51,933 --> 01:41:53,813
Speaker 22: Eden Park and would you turn up at what is

1999
01:41:53,973 --> 01:41:56,093
Speaker 22: likely to be nine thirty on a Wednesday night to

2000
01:41:56,173 --> 01:41:58,333
Speaker 22: watch this because I've got to fit in with Australian

2001
01:41:58,373 --> 01:42:00,693
Speaker 22: broadcast time obviously, going to have a big chat about this.

2002
01:42:01,133 --> 01:42:02,733
Speaker 22: You cover off the rugby obviously, and then it's not

2003
01:42:02,773 --> 01:42:05,413
Speaker 22: forget the Warriors against the Storm tonight we'll get inside

2004
01:42:05,453 --> 01:42:06,333
Speaker 22: their camp after tours.

2005
01:42:06,413 --> 01:42:08,613
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, fantastic, looking forward to that. Beg you Sir

2006
01:42:09,173 --> 01:42:12,013
Speaker 4: Jason Pyne with us right after the twelve o'clock news

2007
01:42:12,133 --> 01:42:14,813
Speaker 4: Huge weekend of sports. Are looking forward to weekend Sport

2008
01:42:14,853 --> 01:42:17,253
Speaker 4: this afternoon twenty four to twelve on News Talks.

2009
01:42:17,133 --> 01:42:19,293
Speaker 2: EDB, No bitter way to kick off your weekend.

2010
01:42:19,453 --> 01:42:23,093
Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and beepur

2011
01:42:23,173 --> 01:42:26,693
Speaker 1: dot co dot Nz for high quality supplements used Talks EDB,

2012
01:42:27,133 --> 01:42:28,293
Speaker 1: News Talks EDB.

2013
01:42:28,533 --> 01:42:30,973
Speaker 4: Just coming up to twenty to twelve, We're going to

2014
01:42:31,053 --> 01:42:32,853
Speaker 4: cover our a little bit of space because we really

2015
01:42:32,933 --> 01:42:36,253
Speaker 4: want to play this new album from Thames She's a

2016
01:42:36,373 --> 01:42:39,053
Speaker 4: musician from Lagos and Nigeria. She's kind of been on

2017
01:42:39,133 --> 01:42:42,293
Speaker 4: the fringes of stardom for a few years and then

2018
01:42:42,333 --> 01:42:43,853
Speaker 4: she won a Grammy a couple of years ago and

2019
01:42:43,933 --> 01:42:46,453
Speaker 4: kind of exploded. She's going to be playing Glastonbury this month,

2020
01:42:46,493 --> 01:42:47,973
Speaker 4: so she's got a new album. Going to play you

2021
01:42:48,013 --> 01:42:49,613
Speaker 4: some of that very shortly. Right now, though, it is

2022
01:42:49,693 --> 01:42:52,533
Speaker 4: time to get your book picks for this weekend. Catherine

2023
01:42:52,613 --> 01:42:56,933
Speaker 4: Rains is here with her recommendations. Hey, Katherine, morning Jack.

2024
01:42:57,253 --> 01:43:00,613
Speaker 4: Let's begin with Smoke by Michael Brisenden.

2025
01:43:01,253 --> 01:43:03,693
Speaker 23: So this is a really eerie opening to it. So

2026
01:43:03,813 --> 01:43:06,693
Speaker 23: it's that you're in the aftermath in this town of

2027
01:43:06,773 --> 01:43:10,533
Speaker 23: Jasper after this wildfire has passed through, and the main

2028
01:43:10,613 --> 01:43:12,893
Speaker 23: character is a character called Alex Markov, and she's a

2029
01:43:12,973 --> 01:43:16,813
Speaker 23: detective and she's returned to her hometown and she's confronted

2030
01:43:16,893 --> 01:43:20,173
Speaker 23: with this destruction, and she also the suspected murder of

2031
01:43:20,293 --> 01:43:23,533
Speaker 23: her childhood friend's partner who's was found in a lot

2032
01:43:23,613 --> 01:43:27,213
Speaker 23: shed after the wildfires. And you know, she's trying to

2033
01:43:27,333 --> 01:43:30,333
Speaker 23: conduct this investigation, but she's also under pressure from this

2034
01:43:30,853 --> 01:43:33,973
Speaker 23: big city ala internal affairs about her past conduct and

2035
01:43:34,013 --> 01:43:36,053
Speaker 23: the time that she spent there working as a detective,

2036
01:43:36,453 --> 01:43:39,333
Speaker 23: and she's dealing with aging parents and a bereaved friend.

2037
01:43:40,053 --> 01:43:40,773
Speaker 11: But she gets that.

2038
01:43:40,893 --> 01:43:43,693
Speaker 23: You get this atmosphere of this town and it's stark

2039
01:43:43,813 --> 01:43:47,613
Speaker 23: and realistic against this backdrop of murder, and this atmosphere

2040
01:43:47,933 --> 01:43:51,253
Speaker 23: you builds and creates tension, and there's corruption and crooked

2041
01:43:51,333 --> 01:43:55,133
Speaker 23: cops and sleazy politicians, and it draws this analogy between

2042
01:43:55,173 --> 01:43:58,293
Speaker 23: the smoke and the smoke concealing things and hiding the damage,

2043
01:43:58,333 --> 01:44:01,893
Speaker 23: and it destroys beautiful things and it's insidious and it's unseen,

2044
01:44:02,493 --> 01:44:05,133
Speaker 23: just like the corruption is and the box about how

2045
01:44:05,253 --> 01:44:07,693
Speaker 23: far trust can go and how close portrayal can be

2046
01:44:07,893 --> 01:44:10,333
Speaker 23: and how little loyalty can be relied on. And it's

2047
01:44:10,733 --> 01:44:13,093
Speaker 23: quite dark and twisted and gripping.

2048
01:44:12,813 --> 01:44:14,093
Speaker 2: And yeah, lots of tension.

2049
01:44:14,533 --> 01:44:18,093
Speaker 4: Sounds great, unfalse, it is, it's very good. Yeah, okay, cool,

2050
01:44:18,133 --> 01:44:22,013
Speaker 4: that sounds really intriguing. And that follows what Detective Alex

2051
01:44:22,053 --> 01:44:24,453
Speaker 4: Markov right, who's and she's kind of been the subject

2052
01:44:24,493 --> 01:44:25,453
Speaker 4: of previous books as well.

2053
01:44:26,493 --> 01:44:29,173
Speaker 23: That's great, she is, and yeah so, but you don't

2054
01:44:29,333 --> 01:44:31,213
Speaker 23: need to have read the previous books. It's just you know,

2055
01:44:31,293 --> 01:44:34,493
Speaker 23: it starts in this small town in this airy atmosphere

2056
01:44:34,573 --> 01:44:37,653
Speaker 23: and then just disappears on and through and how they

2057
01:44:38,093 --> 01:44:40,373
Speaker 23: frack each other on what goes on and yes, yeah

2058
01:44:40,453 --> 01:44:42,693
Speaker 23: it is. It's dark and twisted and a little bit creepy,

2059
01:44:42,733 --> 01:44:43,133
Speaker 23: but it's good.

2060
01:44:43,253 --> 01:44:47,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, cool, okay. Next up The Hazelborne Ladies Motorcycle and

2061
01:44:47,533 --> 01:44:49,613
Speaker 4: Flying Club by Helen Simonson.

2062
01:44:50,413 --> 01:44:52,533
Speaker 23: So Helen Simonson WI wrote a book a while ago

2063
01:44:52,693 --> 01:44:55,453
Speaker 23: called Major Pedigrew's Last Stand and she's really good at

2064
01:44:55,493 --> 01:44:58,013
Speaker 23: creating characters that you'd actually like to meet in real life.

2065
01:44:58,573 --> 01:45:01,573
Speaker 23: And this one set in England and nineteen nineteen, just

2066
01:45:01,653 --> 01:45:04,053
Speaker 23: as the Great Wars wound to a close, and there's

2067
01:45:04,093 --> 01:45:06,053
Speaker 23: the you know, the loss of so many young men,

2068
01:45:06,693 --> 01:45:09,533
Speaker 23: resulting in what they termed surplus women who now must

2069
01:45:09,573 --> 01:45:13,413
Speaker 23: plan lives for themselves, and often with really reduced chances

2070
01:45:13,453 --> 01:45:15,533
Speaker 23: to make a living. And you know who works steadily

2071
01:45:15,653 --> 01:45:18,013
Speaker 23: during the wartime and abruptly really sent back to the

2072
01:45:18,093 --> 01:45:21,053
Speaker 23: kitchen and the drawing room and pushed back into these positions.

2073
01:45:21,533 --> 01:45:24,093
Speaker 23: And one of these characters, Constant har All, is drifting

2074
01:45:24,173 --> 01:45:26,493
Speaker 23: in the early summer of nineteen nineteen, and she'd been

2075
01:45:26,573 --> 01:45:28,373
Speaker 23: eased out, you know, as a lot of women eased

2076
01:45:28,373 --> 01:45:29,973
Speaker 23: out of the job that she did her part for

2077
01:45:30,053 --> 01:45:33,613
Speaker 23: the war effort. She dreads the thought of becoming a governess,

2078
01:45:33,693 --> 01:45:36,173
Speaker 23: and she actually agrees to be a companion to an

2079
01:45:36,213 --> 01:45:39,413
Speaker 23: elderly lady at the seaside resort, and she becomes acquainted

2080
01:45:39,453 --> 01:45:41,973
Speaker 23: with this group of women who had similar looking for

2081
01:45:42,053 --> 01:45:45,453
Speaker 23: means to support themselves and as the war changed their expectation,

2082
01:45:46,013 --> 01:45:47,773
Speaker 23: and she makes friends with a group of young women

2083
01:45:47,813 --> 01:45:50,453
Speaker 23: who trying to make a living using their motorcycles running

2084
01:45:50,493 --> 01:45:52,573
Speaker 23: a taxi service, and she develops a taste for this.

2085
01:45:53,293 --> 01:45:55,533
Speaker 23: She's got other schools and good at bookkeeping, and she

2086
01:45:55,613 --> 01:45:58,573
Speaker 23: comes this real asset to the seaside community and she's

2087
01:45:58,613 --> 01:46:01,293
Speaker 23: really inhabiting this real middle ground. She's not part of

2088
01:46:01,333 --> 01:46:04,053
Speaker 23: the wealthy, and she knows that she can find some

2089
01:46:04,133 --> 01:46:07,373
Speaker 23: new opportunities and change your life, you know, make a

2090
01:46:07,453 --> 01:46:09,693
Speaker 23: living and you know, and then on the other hand,

2091
01:46:09,773 --> 01:46:12,173
Speaker 23: of those in the war that are fought and survived

2092
01:46:12,213 --> 01:46:14,413
Speaker 23: and you know, learning how to live within new realities.

2093
01:46:14,493 --> 01:46:16,733
Speaker 23: And so you get this, you know, Richard convention and

2094
01:46:17,093 --> 01:46:21,293
Speaker 23: changing societal norms and these great characters in this seaside town,

2095
01:46:21,373 --> 01:46:24,133
Speaker 23: and it's really engrossing as you get involved with all

2096
01:46:24,173 --> 01:46:26,493
Speaker 23: of these different characters and their stories and how they're

2097
01:46:26,493 --> 01:46:27,213
Speaker 23: coping with life.

2098
01:46:27,373 --> 01:46:29,413
Speaker 14: Yeah, nineteen nineteen.

2099
01:46:29,373 --> 01:46:31,693
Speaker 4: Oh superb okay cool, that sounds great too. That's the

2100
01:46:31,773 --> 01:46:35,973
Speaker 4: Hazelborne Ladies, Motorcycle and Flying Club by Helen Simonson, Catherine's

2101
01:46:35,973 --> 01:46:39,613
Speaker 4: first book, Smoke by Michael Brisenden. Just like everything for

2102
01:46:39,813 --> 01:46:42,253
Speaker 4: else from our show, Newstooks, heb dot Coda and z

2103
01:46:42,693 --> 01:46:45,053
Speaker 4: Ford Slash Jack is the best place to go. So

2104
01:46:45,133 --> 01:46:47,853
Speaker 4: if you're scrambling around for a bit of paper or

2105
01:46:47,893 --> 01:46:49,733
Speaker 4: something you're trying to write down something you hear on

2106
01:46:49,773 --> 01:46:52,053
Speaker 4: the radio, or you're trying to text it to yourself

2107
01:46:52,173 --> 01:46:54,453
Speaker 4: or something like that, don't stress out. You can always

2108
01:46:54,533 --> 01:46:56,733
Speaker 4: go to our website and you'll find all of the

2109
01:46:56,773 --> 01:46:58,733
Speaker 4: stuff that we recommend to you, and a couple of

2110
01:46:58,773 --> 01:47:00,773
Speaker 4: minutes we're going to play that new music for you

2111
01:47:00,893 --> 01:47:04,013
Speaker 4: from Thames right now. It is seventeen to twelve.

2112
01:47:04,093 --> 01:47:07,693
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you Saturday Mornings

2113
01:47:07,693 --> 01:47:10,653
Speaker 1: with Jack Dame and Bepure dot co dotence it for

2114
01:47:10,773 --> 01:47:12,853
Speaker 1: high quality supplements, use talks.

2115
01:47:12,853 --> 01:47:17,453
Speaker 19: It'd be God, she's just starting baring.

2116
01:47:18,013 --> 01:47:21,813
Speaker 24: If you know what around binding, I would say ely

2117
01:47:22,213 --> 01:47:32,453
Speaker 24: moning just for ron burning, burning, Burning, Burning, and.

2118
01:47:34,973 --> 01:47:37,693
Speaker 19: Burning in.

2119
01:47:40,253 --> 01:47:43,653
Speaker 24: Manning.

2120
01:47:44,093 --> 01:47:49,653
Speaker 4: This is col Ah. That song is called Burning. It's

2121
01:47:49,693 --> 01:47:53,213
Speaker 4: by Times. She's just released a new album called Born

2122
01:47:53,413 --> 01:47:56,213
Speaker 4: in the Wild. In our music review at Stelle, Clifford's

2123
01:47:56,253 --> 01:47:57,293
Speaker 4: been listening, Hey.

2124
01:47:58,373 --> 01:48:01,733
Speaker 14: Good morning. Actually my favorite song off the whole album

2125
01:48:01,853 --> 01:48:02,813
Speaker 14: that song burn It.

2126
01:48:03,053 --> 01:48:03,253
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2127
01:48:03,973 --> 01:48:06,013
Speaker 14: Yeah, And this is just something about people who do

2128
01:48:06,093 --> 01:48:10,093
Speaker 14: it R and B soul, I guess kind of sounds

2129
01:48:10,933 --> 01:48:13,293
Speaker 14: in their voices, but also the songs they choose to perform.

2130
01:48:13,533 --> 01:48:14,893
Speaker 14: I just I just think they're really cool.

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Speaker 12: People like I'm like.

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Speaker 14: She's I think she's really cool. And that song in

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Speaker 14: particular is about that whole you know, when you're aiming

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Speaker 14: for things in life and you feel like you're sort

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Speaker 14: of like, oh, this might all just disappear on me.

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Speaker 14: But actually everyone's got their own inner battles in a turmoil,

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Speaker 14: and she's kind of reflecting on some of the stuff

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Speaker 14: that she's been through. But also because it's such a

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Speaker 14: pretty song, you don't necessarily have to delve into the

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Speaker 14: depth too much of that kind of thing that's going on. Which, Yeah,

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Speaker 14: this is a really great album. She's actually a new

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Speaker 14: artist to me. Unbeknownst I had probably heard a couple

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01:48:47,733 --> 01:48:51,013
Speaker 14: of her things, but I didn't realize because a lot

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Speaker 14: of how she's been thrown into the limelight is her collaborations.

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Speaker 18: And really early on.

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Speaker 3: It was with.

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Speaker 14: Hang On name whiz Kid. There was a song that

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01:49:03,613 --> 01:49:07,413
Speaker 14: she featured on with that artist that sort of catapulted

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Speaker 14: her onto the Billboard charts, and then suddenly other collaborations

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Speaker 14: from there, like she is one of the performers of

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Speaker 14: a song off. Okay, now I've got to think of

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Speaker 14: the name of the movie.

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Speaker 4: I can do this, Yeah, okay, I would.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a really big movie and it's just fallen off.

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01:49:26,893 --> 01:49:28,653
Speaker 14: But anyway, it's mean that she's ended up doing songs

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Speaker 14: with Rihanna, you know, like people like that.

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Speaker 4: Here we go, Okay, I talked about that Earliers. I

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01:49:34,893 --> 01:49:36,413
Speaker 4: shouldn't have needed to google that.

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Speaker 14: Is it Blake Panther? Okay, now I'm now I'm like,

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Speaker 14: now I'm downing myself. No, she was was Wakanda. That's

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Speaker 14: she did a cover of Bob Maley. Yeah, and from

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01:49:49,213 --> 01:49:51,093
Speaker 14: the like yeah, so there's a song that Rihanna is

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Speaker 14: on in the same movie. She's part of that writing

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Speaker 14: team and she performed vocally on that. So she's worked

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Speaker 14: behind the scenes or sort of there, but you know,

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01:49:59,053 --> 01:50:01,053
Speaker 14: like that thing with suddenly her own stuff is now

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Speaker 14: taking the forefront, which is awesome. She's been at Coachella,

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Speaker 14: so she's had a real good showcase of showing off

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Speaker 14: what she does ahead of this album coming out, and

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01:50:10,933 --> 01:50:13,293
Speaker 14: I just really love it. I love that change up

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01:50:13,373 --> 01:50:16,493
Speaker 14: of that sort of afro beats kind of sound that

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01:50:16,573 --> 01:50:19,773
Speaker 14: you get from her. I don't think that she's made

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Speaker 14: the production to heavy either, Like I think her voice

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01:50:22,773 --> 01:50:26,773
Speaker 14: still stands out above that also in that kind of

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01:50:27,053 --> 01:50:30,333
Speaker 14: R and B sort of soul groovy kind of way

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Speaker 14: where there's those little talkie interludes, you know, like like

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01:50:34,053 --> 01:50:36,173
Speaker 14: her mum or a manager or someone talking about what's

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Speaker 14: going to happen with her and how her career is

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Speaker 14: going to go and people's opinions of her. I don't

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01:50:41,133 --> 01:50:43,533
Speaker 14: know if it necessarily makes the album, but I think

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Speaker 14: for me it makes me learn her journey and I

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01:50:45,773 --> 01:50:49,053
Speaker 14: kind of like that when I probably haven't you know,

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01:50:49,293 --> 01:50:50,973
Speaker 14: been with her right from the get go. Also, the

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01:50:51,053 --> 01:50:54,653
Speaker 14: album makes me feel happy, which is interesting when there's

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01:50:54,653 --> 01:50:57,813
Speaker 14: sort of some melancholy on here and you know, there's

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01:50:57,853 --> 01:51:02,133
Speaker 14: the pressures of becoming famous in her pre famed life

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01:51:02,213 --> 01:51:05,613
Speaker 14: and some of the darkness there. Yet overall you sort

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01:51:05,613 --> 01:51:08,053
Speaker 14: of feel this puzzle sort of sound from the music.

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01:51:09,533 --> 01:51:11,133
Speaker 14: It's always a weird sort of place to be when

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01:51:11,173 --> 01:51:12,893
Speaker 14: you say an album made you happy. But she's probably

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01:51:12,933 --> 01:51:16,973
Speaker 14: reflecting on some of the dark stuff. But it's the

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01:51:17,093 --> 01:51:19,493
Speaker 14: music that she's put along with that that I think

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01:51:19,933 --> 01:51:22,253
Speaker 14: sort of helps that. Born in the wild, this album

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01:51:22,333 --> 01:51:26,613
Speaker 14: has made history the most streamed album by a Nigerian

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01:51:26,693 --> 01:51:29,613
Speaker 14: female artist in a single day on Spotify, eight million

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01:51:29,693 --> 01:51:32,813
Speaker 14: streams wow in one day when it first came.

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Speaker 4: Out, So I reckon she's going to be the first

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Speaker 4: of them and she's.

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Speaker 14: Delving into that like that's what she wants to represent.

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Speaker 14: So I think for her, this is her growth on

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01:51:42,973 --> 01:51:46,853
Speaker 14: something that's kind of a universal attraction in afrobeat kind

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01:51:46,893 --> 01:51:49,813
Speaker 14: of place with their R and B bass. But I

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01:51:49,813 --> 01:51:52,093
Speaker 14: wouldn't be surprised if she pushes the boundaries with that

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01:51:52,493 --> 01:51:54,693
Speaker 14: in regards to being a Nigerian artist. And I love

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01:51:54,773 --> 01:51:58,213
Speaker 14: that it's got those real earthy tones. The conger drums

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01:51:58,293 --> 01:52:02,253
Speaker 14: come in, there's some wind chimes, there's some rattle sort

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01:52:02,293 --> 01:52:05,373
Speaker 14: of sounds that you're hearing that that comes from her foundation,

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Speaker 14: and I you know, like you sort of almost want

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01:52:07,813 --> 01:52:11,213
Speaker 14: that to be pushed more, and I think it will come.

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01:52:11,413 --> 01:52:16,333
Speaker 14: But then those real rhythmic, catchy melodies from someone who

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01:52:16,493 --> 01:52:19,573
Speaker 14: is a singer, songwriter slash producer herself, you know, yeah,

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01:52:20,533 --> 01:52:22,813
Speaker 14: and this tone of her voice, there's just something I

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01:52:22,933 --> 01:52:26,693
Speaker 14: really love about that. Often when listening to an album

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01:52:26,733 --> 01:52:29,213
Speaker 14: for the first time, I sort of it's like meditation.

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01:52:29,333 --> 01:52:31,693
Speaker 14: You know, your mind wanders and you're like, got to

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01:52:31,733 --> 01:52:34,013
Speaker 14: listen to this album. But then you sort of wander

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01:52:34,093 --> 01:52:35,613
Speaker 14: and you come in and out and I think it's

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01:52:35,613 --> 01:52:39,333
Speaker 14: a great album for doing that. And then a few

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01:52:39,373 --> 01:52:41,213
Speaker 14: more listens and it kind of grows on you. In

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01:52:41,293 --> 01:52:44,733
Speaker 14: regards to lyrically, perhaps what she's painting a picture with,

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01:52:45,413 --> 01:52:47,613
Speaker 14: which for me means an album has, you know, quite

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01:52:47,613 --> 01:52:51,813
Speaker 14: a lot of bit of longevity. If the melodies can

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01:52:51,933 --> 01:52:54,653
Speaker 14: catch you first and the music and things like that,

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01:52:55,453 --> 01:52:57,253
Speaker 14: I think it's really great. But in nineties kind of

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01:52:57,333 --> 01:52:58,773
Speaker 14: sound in there as well. I think this is a

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01:52:58,813 --> 01:53:01,533
Speaker 14: song you're going to play in a but love me

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01:53:01,653 --> 01:53:05,293
Speaker 14: gg first single off the album, to Tease. It came

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01:53:05,333 --> 01:53:07,493
Speaker 14: from a jam session with and friends where one of

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Speaker 14: them sampled another Nigerian star. He's called mister GG or ce.

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01:53:13,933 --> 01:53:15,533
Speaker 14: I'm not sure how to say his surname. Sorry. I

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01:53:15,573 --> 01:53:21,373
Speaker 14: think it's one of those mister g that sampled in

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01:53:21,453 --> 01:53:24,053
Speaker 14: her version of Love me Gg as well. So it

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01:53:24,133 --> 01:53:27,973
Speaker 14: does have that throwback comfortable nineties r and bs that

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01:53:28,053 --> 01:53:28,733
Speaker 14: have sounded about it.

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01:53:28,773 --> 01:53:30,693
Speaker 4: And it's really cool cool, Okay, what'd.

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01:53:30,533 --> 01:53:30,813
Speaker 3: You give it?

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01:53:31,053 --> 01:53:32,573
Speaker 14: Just more just more layers of cool.

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Speaker 4: Out of ten out of ten, very good. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: looking forward to listen to this too. I've heard a

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01:53:36,893 --> 01:53:39,653
Speaker 4: couple of Tames songs and really just like that sound.

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01:53:39,813 --> 01:53:42,933
Speaker 4: So looking forward to listening to Boorn in the Wild

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01:53:43,053 --> 01:53:45,373
Speaker 4: and we'll get that love me Gg song. I'm glad

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01:53:45,453 --> 01:53:48,533
Speaker 4: you said gg because it's it's spelt j e j

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01:53:48,773 --> 01:53:50,493
Speaker 4: e and I wasn't totally sure how to pronounce it.

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01:53:50,613 --> 01:53:52,253
Speaker 4: So you have done the hard work for me on

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01:53:52,293 --> 01:53:52,573
Speaker 4: that front.

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01:53:54,013 --> 01:53:54,413
Speaker 6: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: It fast the old broadcasting trick. We'll be back in

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Speaker 4: a couple of minutes with one of those songs from

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Speaker 4: Teams for You. Eight out of ten. Estelle reckons her

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01:54:05,373 --> 01:54:08,253
Speaker 4: new album Born in the Wild as well. It's eight

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Speaker 4: to twelve.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday. Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and Bpure dot Co dot ins head for

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Speaker 1: high quality Supplements News Talks dB.

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Speaker 4: Well, that isn't far off twelve o'clock, which means it

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01:54:20,773 --> 01:54:23,013
Speaker 4: is time for us to say goodbye for another morning

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01:54:23,053 --> 01:54:25,853
Speaker 4: together on News Talks head B Jason Pine is gonna

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Speaker 4: be with you right after the news ahead of that

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Speaker 4: all important Super Ugby semi final this afternoon. Weekend sports

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01:54:31,693 --> 01:54:34,813
Speaker 4: should be a doozy this afternoon. Thanks to my wonderful

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01:54:34,853 --> 01:54:37,733
Speaker 4: producer Libby for doing the tough stuff the News Talks.

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01:54:37,733 --> 01:54:40,053
Speaker 4: He'db website is the best place to go if you

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01:54:40,133 --> 01:54:41,933
Speaker 4: want anything from our show. You want to have a

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01:54:41,973 --> 01:54:45,573
Speaker 4: listen again, We're gonna leave you with Thames. Her new

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01:54:45,693 --> 01:54:48,173
Speaker 4: album is Born in the Wild. This song is called

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Speaker 4: love Me Gig see you next week.

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Speaker 25: One No, I know one story day nights. This sound

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01:54:54,893 --> 01:55:01,253
Speaker 25: additional men even so yeah, let me Jack, you know

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01:55:01,333 --> 01:55:03,933
Speaker 25: you love jamming a black knapper and it's new one

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01:55:04,013 --> 01:55:08,693
Speaker 25: and them do whatever because I love and and love

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01:55:08,773 --> 01:55:12,693
Speaker 25: and love and I love you only because I need

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01:55:12,813 --> 01:55:16,413
Speaker 25: in the knee and the need in the knee, yo, mom. Yeah,

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01:55:16,613 --> 01:55:18,573
Speaker 25: you know, I run and I run and I running

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01:55:18,573 --> 01:55:22,653
Speaker 25: and I run, fly blindness light nice bought me in

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01:55:22,733 --> 01:55:26,453
Speaker 25: your lobby and lo a, I'm ahead right now.

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01:55:29,853 --> 01:55:35,373
Speaker 19: I'm on your head right yeah, hello your vibe.

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01:55:35,493 --> 01:55:37,933
Speaker 3: No, you got me on your side now.

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01:55:38,693 --> 01:55:40,333
Speaker 25: Yes, I'm on your way right now.

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01:55:41,293 --> 01:55:43,693
Speaker 16: Whoa, whoa yeah.

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Speaker 26: Yeah yeah I said, love me judge, love me tender, mom,

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01:55:49,373 --> 01:55:55,013
Speaker 26: loot me judge, love me tender. My sugar, honey, I

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01:55:55,173 --> 01:55:59,453
Speaker 26: turn the lover money you o my sugar, my money.

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01:55:59,573 --> 01:56:02,853
Speaker 3: I turned the lover by locker.

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Speaker 19: Why would you just call me your momaday

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live

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