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Speaker 1: Casey Costello's Organized Crime Task Force that April reported it

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Speaker 1: is out and it's quite a doozy. Actually, some interesting

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Speaker 1: stuff in here. They say one of the biggest lies

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Speaker 1: in the world is that crime doesn't pay. It actually does.

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Speaker 1: Cops currently restraining seventy five million dollars a year in assets.

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Speaker 1: They want to do more. So some of the recommendations

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Speaker 1: from them. They say, ideally you would ban cash all

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Speaker 1: together in New Zealand because obviously that's the currency of

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Speaker 1: your criminal right. But they say you can't do that,

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Speaker 1: so you've got to restrict its use. Certain industries they say,

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Speaker 1: like construction, hospitality, agriculture. Certain industries they say should be

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Speaker 1: banned from paying wages in cash. You would have to

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Speaker 1: use electronic means. They want the cops to be able

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Speaker 1: to monitor bank accounts in real time. A whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff in here. Joining me to discuss Glen Dobbs

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Speaker 1: and the Drug Detection Agency CEO Glenn good morning, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good morning, right, what did you make of that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it was interesting reading. I think the main

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Speaker 2: part of the report reinforce it favorable in terms of

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Speaker 2: business improve the market, and that's the same for transnational

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Speaker 2: organized crime groups. You know, we're moving a lot of

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Speaker 2: drugs New Zealands at the moment, and they go, I

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Speaker 2: guess is to make unfavorable are taking cash and bring

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Speaker 2: around other regulations around that.

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Speaker 1: The problem they've always got is that crime moves fast,

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Speaker 1: and enforcement agencies can only move at the speed of law,

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Speaker 1: and that often takes too long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and that's a challenge not only domestically

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, but obviously we're talking about transnational organized crime.

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Speaker 2: The agencies obviously have to play within the rules of

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Speaker 2: the regulations allow them to play with And I think

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Speaker 2: what this report is doing is saying, hey, look, we

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Speaker 2: need to move faster, we need to move with times.

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Speaker 2: We're dealing with financial markets and that moves quickly, and

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Speaker 2: we need to give our authority the best chance to

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Speaker 2: target the profits of the transnational organized crime groups to

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Speaker 2: stop these drugs coming into our country.

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Speaker 1: That graph, how scary was it? Looking at that graph

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Speaker 1: that shows the price of methanphetamine and which has come down,

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Speaker 1: but the use the consumption of it that there's just

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Speaker 1: a line going to the sky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look that it is really scary for the country.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we've seen racing is on the waist

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Speaker 2: wood a stack show that meth is going through the

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Speaker 2: roof as well. The Drug detex Changing. We had a

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Speaker 2: conference just last week. We had some US experts over

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Speaker 2: speaking about the global movements of drugs and so on,

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Speaker 2: and one of our experts on meth if you opened

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Speaker 2: the conference with saying very clearly, at all it is

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Speaker 2: all about the money. It's the one thing it's all about.

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Speaker 2: And whether they're moving drugs or where they're moving human trafficking,

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Speaker 2: whether they're doing other sort of illicit trades, it's all

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Speaker 2: about the money. So I really support this report trying

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Speaker 2: to cut their ability to use the profits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting stuff. Appreciate your time this morning, Glenn. Glenn Dobson,

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Speaker 1: the Drug detect Detectant Agency CEO, just gone nine minutes

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Speaker 1: away from six. Yeah. One of the other things that

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Speaker 1: it mentions is the crypto ATMs. We've got about two

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Speaker 1: hundred crypto ATMs and you get then they say we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't they should all be banned for.

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