1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: In for Paul Allison Nick Beauley morning, Good morning Luke, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: And we learned about half an hour back that mid 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Canbury Hammer's coach Matt Winter is expecting number two in 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: a couple of months time, and a bit of baby 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: fever on that. We haven't spoken to you in a 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: while because you have been off on dad leave. Welcoming 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: we bub as well. Congratulations. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Oh cheers Luke. Yeah, very very happy to Yeah you 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: have number two boy, number two Mac Beurley. 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: And then oh that's a cool name. 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, and he is yeah, big Mac 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: already all nine pounds one out of him is number two. 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: They're always hungry boys out they how William is certainly 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: proving that gave you a bit of a scare even 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: from day one. 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, yeah, it was all go about a week 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: and a half, a hit of jude Achs in the 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: middle of the nights, a bit of unplanned home birth. 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah it did you have to deliver? No thanks, 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: I prefer to be at the at the heading the bed. Yeah, no, 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: it was all. It was all quite quite something. But yeah, 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: everything's good now, happy, healthy and yeah flex a bit 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: of a premium, but not We're doing reasonably well. 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: That's the fastest and slowest moving period of your life. 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, hell, good, great, everything's going well. The reason we 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: were catching up with Matt Winter was the New Zealand 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: Rugby Award for last night and I was expecting tuning 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: in to sky Sport that would be like an auditorium 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: full of people and a real atmosphere, but it's just 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: a studio set thing. It felt a little bit off. 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, also feeling a little short changed because our 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: mighty mid Canterbury Hammers were in the running for Team 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: of the Year up against the Crusaders and Canterbury, so 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: it was a Canterbury takeover which was pretty cool to see. 36 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: The Crusaders were crowned to the winners despite losing three 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: of their games. We went undefeated through the season, We 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: claimed a hand and shield the Meads Cup. What else 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: do we need to do? 40 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair point. I hope you'll be riding 41 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: into the higher racity gan Rugby later today, Luke, because 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: you mount a pretty strong argument there. But I suppose 43 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: you know, the argument being you know, perhaps the professional 44 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: aby ranks a little bit trickier to negotiating such was 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: the comeback from the Crusaders after the depths of despair 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four and not even making the finals 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: to returning to the glory of a Super Rugby title 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: this year, perhaps you know, compelling maybe to others, but 49 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: I'm actually with you. I thought it was. You know, 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: it doeserve some form of recognition. I know I saw 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: Dicklar McCormick was in there as a nod Heartland Player 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 2: of the Year. You couldn't even get Heartland. 53 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: Player of the Year on that Ian Kirkpatrick medal. Well, 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's for the better. We don't have any room 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: left in our trophy cabinets so we wouldn't have been 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: able to fit anything. And something we can't agree on, though, 57 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure, is Adie Savilla being named recipients of the 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: Kelvin R. Tremaine Award, which is Player of the Year. 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: The third time he's done this. What a season. 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think and look probably have reflect on the 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: rugby year in totality and customer on my mind right 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: back to Super Rugby and such as his influence for 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: Mina pacifically because there one man wrecking ball. I know 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: mine I didn't quite get to the playoffs, But as 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: I say, such as his influence, he almost single handedly 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: carried them where he did to some you know, remarkable 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: results and you know, wins over the Blues as an example. 68 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: And then more or less, I don't think it was 69 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: his sort of best ever year in an all black 70 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: jersey by any stretch of the imagination. But very seldom 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: did he have a game sort of below it a 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: seven or eight out of ten. So yeah, I think 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: it's probably fair. And then when you look at who 74 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: he was up against in terms of some of the 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: Black fans, ladies like Georgia Miller, you know, perhaps if 76 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: the Black fans had had won the World Cup this year, 77 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: that would be a bit more of a compelling case. 78 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: But now, from my mind anyway, no real arguments for 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Ardie Savia and yeah, just another notch on his CV. 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: It's it's going to he's going to go down as 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: one of the greats once he hangs the boots up 82 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: on the box. 83 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: Into this weekend, I guess we've got the second test 84 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: that continues. We could have done without yet another injury 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: to Bled Techno trying to be a hero and busting 86 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: a shoulder. 87 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: Indeed, yeah, I feel really sorry for poor old bleed Ticklar. 88 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: He finally gets, you know, another opportunity in the red 89 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: ball environment and it just seemed rather innocuous. You know, 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: he's diving sort of outstretched to try and deny boundary 91 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: out of fine leg and then the shoulder just gets 92 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: a little bit caught up and the dislocation. And this 93 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: is just the latest and in a laundry list of injuries, 94 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: particularly in the fast bowling stocks. You know, even going 95 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: into this Test match with Michael ray On on debut, 96 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: you look right down the list in terms of obviously 97 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: no Matt Henry, Kyle Jamieson's on the comeback trail, Willow Walk, 98 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: Ben Sears, Nathan Smith, ben list, The list just goes 99 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: on and on and on. So Bleared Ticklary adding himself 100 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: to that list is an unfortunate particularly given he he 101 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: took the best figures in the first innings with a fourth. 102 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: So look the black Caps where they are at the moment. 103 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: You know, they've got a lead of forty one. The 104 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: West needs to resume this morning at thirty two for two, 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: I think on is reasonably even perhaps New Zealand just 106 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: slightly in front of the game as things stand, but 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: it will require quite a big effort from you know, 108 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: your Jacob Duffies and your Zach Foxes and Michael Ray again. 109 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: And you think with those first two in particular, such 110 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 2: was their mammoth work rate required in the first test, Hagley, 111 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: because of those injuries to Matt Henry and Mason Smith, 112 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: it's not you know, they're certainly going to have to 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: work for at the Westerns. I was very impressed last 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: weekend with how they knuckled down and held on for 115 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: what was a magnificent drawer. So yeah, I'm really looking 116 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: forward to hopefully at least day three and day four. 117 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: Who knows, this one might go the distance as well, 118 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: right through to day five.