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Speaker 1: Do we have some disagreement over these teacher only days.

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Speaker 1: Education Minister Erica Stamford has said David Seymour somewhat overstepped

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Speaker 1: the mark in his role as associated with his crackdown

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Speaker 1: on teacher only days. It was announced without proper approval.

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Speaker 1: Apparently part of the issue is the new curriculum, with

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Speaker 1: planning days of that being important. Of course, the Associate

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Speaker 1: Education Minister is David Seymour, who was with us good.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Good loving way.

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Speaker 1: Is this a whole week of Landrover's stories, David v. Erica.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine it. Basically, we've got a set of

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Speaker 2: rules which are very clear, and we work very well together.

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Speaker 2: But of course, you know there's always people try and

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Speaker 2: beat these things up. I doubt I'll find much here. Well.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, she did say you overstepped the mark, did.

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Speaker 2: You, I'm not quite sure I'd put it that way. Basically,

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Speaker 2: there's a set of rules that she's in charge of,

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Speaker 2: and that's all I've ever said. I've said that Erica

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Speaker 2: Stanford is the one who's the season charge of when

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Speaker 2: schools can close. That was in my press release, which

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Speaker 2: was actually part of attendance. So maybe overlaps would be

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Speaker 2: a better description.

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Speaker 1: Okay, she also said you overstepped overlapped knowingly.

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Speaker 2: Did you no again, because if you go back to

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Speaker 2: what I actually said, it was that the ministers in

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Speaker 2: charge the schools have to ask permission for the minister

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Speaker 2: And if you go to the Ministry of Education website,

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Speaker 2: it sets out the rules very clearly. It says that

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Speaker 2: schools in twenty twenty five can close for instruction for

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Speaker 2: four days. Two of those days are for very important

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Speaker 2: stuff which the government's brought out around teachers up skilling

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Speaker 2: for maths and other curriculum areas. Another two days are

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Speaker 2: at the discretion of the board. But there's also a

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Speaker 2: new set of rules around what they have to do.

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Speaker 2: They have to give six weeks notice, they have to

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Speaker 2: think about the reason for the closure and also the

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Speaker 2: impact of that on the school community, stuff that Erica

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Speaker 2: has quite rightly set out, and my communications last year,

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Speaker 2: I just made the point that if you want to close,

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Speaker 2: you need to ask the Minister for Education, and the

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Speaker 2: reason I did that is that aren't responsible for attendance,

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Speaker 2: and I just made the observation that if schools close

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Speaker 2: willing Nelly, I think I said, then the message that

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Speaker 2: sends to students who were saying need to be at school,

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Speaker 2: I think is mixed.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is. Having said that cursory glance at the

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Speaker 1: back end of Christmas, summer, et cetera, has it actually worked.

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Speaker 1: It still seemed to me that we came back from

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Speaker 1: summer holidays in the first Friday, the first Monday, they

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Speaker 1: still take teach your only days.

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Speaker 2: Well, they certainly have. The new rules only came into

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Speaker 2: space at the start of this year, and again I

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Speaker 2: expect that as the year goes on, as the new

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Speaker 2: rule's bed and there'll be a lot more clarity. I

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Speaker 2: also just make the point that in that interview, actually

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Speaker 2: not to blame everything on media, but the interviewer misrepresented

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Speaker 2: what I'd said, and I think that is at the

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Speaker 2: core of the issue here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Having said that, I watched the Prime Minister yesterday

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Speaker 1: on that tourism push. He alluded to absentee as and

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Speaker 1: we said people are turning up. That's your understanding. It

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Speaker 1: is actually working.

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Speaker 2: Well. One point, there was a bit of controversy last

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Speaker 2: week about Pie Day that was actually the best attended

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Speaker 2: Friday of this year, particularly for what used to be

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Speaker 2: called Lower gessile schools most that qualify for the healthy

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Speaker 2: school lunch programs. Possibly we're on.

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Speaker 1: So attendance is up, he said seven percent. Is that

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Speaker 1: your understanding?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's right about that. I think he'd be

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Speaker 2: quoting the figure's term on term, And the last couple

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Speaker 2: of terms at the end of last year were up

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Speaker 2: from sort of mid fifties to lowes mid sixties versus

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Speaker 2: the previous year. So we certainly are making progress on attendance,

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Speaker 2: but you know our goal is actually eighty percent. That's

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Speaker 2: Jesus quite where you want to be.

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Speaker 1: Is the on pies? Is this an orchestrated pile on

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Speaker 1: a union based principle based media based let's find everything

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Speaker 1: wrong with meals we can possibly find and make it

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Speaker 1: a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of what really sometimes

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Speaker 2: depresses me about our country and our culture. The government

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Speaker 2: is saving almost fifty one hundred and seventy million dollars

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Speaker 2: a year by doing the school lunch program smarter. Has

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Speaker 2: every single meal been delivered on time, at the right

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Speaker 2: time to the right school in the first two weeks, No,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't. But towards the end of that two week

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Speaker 2: period we're getting one hundred percent delivery in nearly every region.

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Speaker 2: Auckland's been the biggest challenge, largely because of traffic. We've

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Speaker 2: been up over ninety five percent in Auckland. And as

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Speaker 2: for the quality, I've got a huge amount of feedback

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Speaker 2: coming in from people who say we think the meals

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Speaker 2: are very good and better than last year in many cases.

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Speaker 2: So you know, people can complain that. I would say

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Speaker 2: we've done something new. It's been ambitious at saving the

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Speaker 2: text payer a lot of money. Many people think it's better.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we need to sometimes look on the bright side.

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Speaker 1: Yep, good point, David Seymore Associated Education min is to

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Speaker 1: just for clarification, if you go to the website which

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Speaker 1: we have in twenty twenty five, boards can close the

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Speaker 1: school for four half days four curriculum related purposes. Those

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Speaker 1: half days don't need to be made up so long

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Speaker 1: as six weeks notice is given to family. School's covering

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Speaker 1: year zero to eight have to use their four curriculum

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Speaker 1: half days for maths or PLD. For more from the

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