1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Ten past five here they do for CELA. There are 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: warnings the US may strike Iran as soon as this weekend, 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: with one anonymous source telling international media there is now 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: a ninety percent chance of war in the coming weeks. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Ol Gillespie is a law professor at the University of 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: way Kathawa and an international law expert in with us 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: hi Alither does ninety percent sound real to you? 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: I think it's a bit high. It will depend on negotiations, 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: but it's certainly quite possible. 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: What would they have to give Trump in negotiations to 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: get out of this. 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: There's three things that they're looking at that The first 13 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: one is removing their nuclear ability, which I think you 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: can easily negotiate that. The second thing is removing their 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: ballistic missile ability, which I think it's possible but difficult. 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 2: The third one is maybe letting them have the right 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 2: to protest, which they will never allow, in. 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Which case here there's a strike right. 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: It is quite possible that The problem is is that 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: if you go into the situation like this, everyone's thinking Venezuela, 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: like you cut the head off the snake, but here 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: it's a very big snake, and it's if you remove 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: the Aatol that you were likely to have a problem 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: with the Revolutionary Guard taking power. That could turn into 25 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: a civil war, and it could make the Arab Spring 26 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: look like a beginning party. 27 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: Okay, So if he does decide to do it, there 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: are a few problems because he's got a few things 29 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: on the calendar. Right We've got the Winter Olympics, and 30 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: generally you don't strike during winter. Olympics ends on Sunday, 31 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: but then you've got Ramadan starting on Wednesday. So that's 32 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: a very small window, isn't it. 33 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: So it's quite possible it could be sooner rather than later. 34 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: And he's also someone who's got to show strengths right 35 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: now because he's got a lot of other countries he's 36 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: trying to make do certain things. You can think Venezuela, 37 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: you can think Cuba. He's a man not to be 38 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: messed with, so he will want to have a projection 39 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: of power. 40 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: What do you think is a global impact if he 41 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: does go in there. 42 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: I think there's nothing an international law which says you 43 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: can force people to negotiate under threat or bomb them 44 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: if they don't agree with you. I think it's another 45 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: aspect of the lawless world that we're engaging, and the 46 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: problem isn't just what when America does in China and 47 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: Russia follow suit. 48 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: All right, thank you for that. I'll appreciate it. Al Gillespie, 49 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Waikatol University law professor, so has been What is certainly 50 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: adding credibility to this ninety percent thing is just the 51 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: number of aircraft that are going into the Middle East 52 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: at the moment it's been tracked. On Monday, there are 53 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: at least six flights of the Strato tankers heading towards 54 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: the Middle East, then another eight recorded on Tuesday. On 55 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: Monday twenty USF thirty five combat aircraft took off from Suffolk. 56 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: On Tuesday twenty five, F sixteen jets flew to the US. 57 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: From the US to the Middle East, they landed in 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: southern Israel, also Jordan and Crete. For more from Heather 59 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd be 60 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.