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Speaker 1: The firefighters have got equipment issues. I think we all

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Speaker 1: know that. So Parliamentary Select Committee is launching an inquiry.

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Speaker 1: Trucks are breaking down on the way to emergencies. Tim

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Speaker 1: Costley is the national MP leading this particular one needs Well,

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Speaker 1: there's Tim morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you very well? Broadly speaking? Is it accepted

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Speaker 1: there is an issue?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, there's an issue, and there is just a

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Speaker 2: lack of questions and clarity about what's going on. That's

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Speaker 2: what I want to get to the bottom of.

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Speaker 1: Will you be able to.

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Speaker 2: Well, you think so. They're not difficult questions, right like

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Speaker 2: if you take the last thirty fire trucks that got

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Speaker 2: bort I asked, you know, eighteen months ago, how many

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Speaker 2: of them are in use? I got told it's the majority.

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Speaker 2: I found out a few months later the answer is

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Speaker 2: actually zero. So I asked again at the start of

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Speaker 2: this year, well, how many is it now? I got

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Speaker 2: told fourteen. Guess what turns out the answer is actually zero.

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Speaker 2: So I said, we'll have may not come back and

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Speaker 2: tell us again. And they say, well, it's seventeen are

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Speaker 2: in use and getting trained on in almost in use

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Speaker 2: and short seventeen And they said, well, maybe it's actually sixteen.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've just been going around in circles that

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Speaker 2: they've sat there time after time and not given me

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Speaker 2: the correct answer.

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Speaker 1: This one's right.

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Speaker 2: This is friends leadership and the board chair that appear

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Speaker 2: before us.

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Speaker 1: Are they useless?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there's some genuine questions. Right. If you

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Speaker 2: think about it, there's only three scenarios. Either the board

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Speaker 2: have been asking Feends leadership the same questions and getting

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Speaker 2: incorrect answers, in which case you ask some pretty serious

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Speaker 2: questions about Fiends leadership, or the board haven't been asking

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Speaker 2: those questions at all, on which case you have some

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Speaker 2: pretty better questions about the board. Or they have been

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Speaker 2: asking the questions, they've been getting the honest answers, but

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Speaker 2: then they've both sat there in front of us and

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Speaker 2: not given us the truth, in which case I have

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Speaker 2: questions for both of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when you talk to the board chair and

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Speaker 1: you go the answers don't seem to add up. What

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Speaker 1: do they say? I mean, none of them? As you said, well,

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Speaker 1: this isn't complicated. Either things are working or they're not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got'd be okay. If they came to us

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Speaker 2: and said you know what those thirty trucks. Yet they

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Speaker 2: did set parked up from twenty twenty to twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three and nothing happened. But we're onto it now. This

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Speaker 2: is the plan that's going to take another year. That's

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Speaker 2: not good, but at least we've got something to work with.

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Speaker 2: But that's not what we're getting. And so the last

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Speaker 2: time I actually asked them to come back for an

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Speaker 2: extra hearing to the Sellect Committee, to go and have

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Speaker 2: another guide answering their answers, because we had four different

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Speaker 2: versions of the truth, but that neither of them showed

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Speaker 2: up and said. We've got a couple of other people

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Speaker 2: that work at FANS that I felt were thrown under

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Speaker 2: the busy by the leadership. And so this is what's

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Speaker 2: led me to asking for an inquiry because I think

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Speaker 2: they should front up. I think they need to tell

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Speaker 2: us what's going on. And I think we're going to

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Speaker 2: need to leave them to the answer because they don't

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Speaker 2: seem to be able to give it to us themselves.

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Speaker 1: When are you going to come back on and tell us.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's probably going to take a few months.

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Speaker 2: There's a months now for submissions where anyone around the

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Speaker 2: country can have their say. Look, I've been hearing from

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Speaker 2: firefighters all around the country for a couple of months now,

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Speaker 2: and I expect that a lot of people want to

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Speaker 2: have this say. But it's also a bit of an

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Speaker 2: awkward one right because any select Committee submission will ultimately

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Speaker 2: be made public. So I do have people contacting me directly.

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Speaker 2: At least lets me know where to look to get

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Speaker 2: more answers. But I think it will take a few months.

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Speaker 2: But I want to have some answers before we get

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Speaker 2: to the election that we can actually make some progress.

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Speaker 2: That's what's a really focused inquiry into the sleep Good luck.

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Speaker 1: Tim Costley, who is the national MP for o teching.

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