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Speaker 1: One last crack at the Rugby Championship before we think

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Speaker 1: about Chicago and Ireland and the end of the year tour.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Australians again this weekend in Perth and

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Speaker 1: Jordi Barrett is with us. Good morning morning, Mike. Now

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Speaker 1: you've got to be pleased about Scott because you were

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Speaker 1: the last Barrett standing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not many left, so it's great to have

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Speaker 2: Scott back. Yeah, it's a big boost for our side.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's good to see him fit and well

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Speaker 2: and ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about the trump. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: long way to go, isn't it for a single game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. You figure how far away Perth is

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Speaker 2: until you sit down on the plane and look at

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Speaker 2: the screen. So yeah, seven or eight hours over here,

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Speaker 2: direct from Auckland, which was great. But it's great to

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Speaker 2: be here. The sun's been out so far this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: low twenty degrees. We're expecting a call a weekend. But

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Speaker 2: it's good to be in Australia.

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Speaker 1: And what about this whole competition? Have you settled in?

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got a rhythm going there, The two on,

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Speaker 1: the two off, the travel, the wins, the losses, a year,

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Speaker 1: you guys sort of in a vibe I'd.

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Speaker 2: Love to think so, Mike, I feel like, well, hopefully

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Speaker 2: we've learned from the past two times we had to

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Speaker 2: back up in test matches in Partecular Argentina and Bonos

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Speaker 2: Aire's and South Africa and Wellington, and just little adjustments

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Speaker 2: that hopefully get us a performance this week against Perth.

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Speaker 2: And we've learned, and other teams in the Rugby Championship

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Speaker 2: have learned as well that it's a week is a

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Speaker 2: long time and it's national Rugby is so competitive now

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Speaker 2: and the margins are so small and it's so competitive.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully we can put a good performance out

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Speaker 2: here on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Now, just quickly, on last week, were you able to

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Speaker 1: enjoy it because I thought, I mean everyone talked about

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Speaker 1: the South Africa win, of course, but I actually thought

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Speaker 1: last week was the best game of all, I mean,

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Speaker 1: so exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an exciting match. Both teams wanted to play.

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Speaker 2: I think ball and player was up around thirty eight

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Speaker 2: thirty nine minutes, which is great for the spectator as well.

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Speaker 2: And that's the other sort of games we want to

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Speaker 2: be a part of, put on a show and ultimately

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Speaker 2: get wins. So look, we feel it's a different Australian side.

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Speaker 2: Well coached a great depth and they used the ball

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Speaker 2: well so well. It was an arm wrestled last week

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Speaker 2: and we were able to put out good periods of

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Speaker 2: good rugby and we want to try to do more

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Speaker 2: of the same against a side who again will probably

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Speaker 2: try and play fast as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'd asked you about this, you know, the

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Speaker 1: competition itself, the quality of the sides before this thing began,

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Speaker 1: versus what you know now, would the answer be the

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Speaker 1: same or have you learned a lot?

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Speaker 2: The answer probably would be the same. But I guess

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Speaker 2: the volatility of the competition from week to week I

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Speaker 2: probably didn't expect you. Look at Argentina, a great side.

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Speaker 2: They beat the Lions before the Rugby Championship in Dublin.

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Speaker 2: I've beaten Australia that beat us and they've got sot

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Speaker 2: Aca this week. And Australia had a great one in

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Speaker 2: South Africa followed by Winter South Africa the week after

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Speaker 2: and our results against the Box who are pretty similar.

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Speaker 2: So the competition is so close. Hopefully it's great for

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Speaker 2: the fan. Obviously we'd like to be winning all our matches.

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Speaker 2: But that's the I guess the path we're on. We're

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Speaker 2: trying to get better and better, so we can I

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Speaker 2: guess when more.

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Speaker 1: And do you think people understand that. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: thoroughly personally, I thoroughly enjoyed the contest because of its tightness.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's beating everybody. Obviously, we want you to win, but

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Speaker 1: at the start of the game, we don't know that

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Speaker 1: you're going to win. And that's that's the brilliance of sport,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. It's exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rightly or wrongly, it's the players love that. We

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Speaker 2: love a contest. You learn more from tighter, tough experiences,

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Speaker 2: going through experiences where you don't want to lose. You

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Speaker 2: learn a lot about yourself. You learn a lot about

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Speaker 2: the team in those moments, and I guess about who

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Speaker 2: moves the fastest and loans and depths on the run.

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Speaker 2: But the world rugby is in a great spot, is

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Speaker 2: I mean on any given day, you can have eight

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Speaker 2: or nine teams that turn up homer Away and you

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Speaker 2: probably don't know who's going to win that day. So

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Speaker 2: I think it's positive for the sport.

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Speaker 1: Now, talk to me about the mental side and how

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Speaker 1: you bounce back and how do you deal with that

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Speaker 1: mental pressure, you know, the key moments against South Africa,

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Speaker 1: the pressure on you for last week. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: do you bounce back mentally from those sort of moments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rugby Championships there to win if we really

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Speaker 2: want it. We may need a little bit of help

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Speaker 2: through South Africa and Argentina, but it's there for us

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Speaker 2: if we want it. Little adjustments from last week. There

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Speaker 2: were areas where Australia really challenged us. There was a

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Speaker 2: period in their first half where we felt like we

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Speaker 2: probably could have put them away. But there are plucky

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Speaker 2: side and they've shown throughout the championship. They finished well

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Speaker 2: late and second halves too, so it was good to

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Speaker 2: get I guess a late try over them put that

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Speaker 2: game to bed. But they historically perform very well in

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Speaker 2: Perth afternoon game and they'll be chasing a bonus point

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Speaker 2: as well to put their name and that hat for

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Speaker 2: the Rugby Championships. So you're expecting probably an open match.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's nothing you can do about it. But all

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Speaker 1: of these injuries that have affected your side, how do

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Speaker 1: you adjust on that level? Given there might be a

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Speaker 1: different bloke on your inside or outside.

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Speaker 2: You do it just but sometimes the change is positive

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Speaker 2: and it gives other guys opportunities, fresh leagues, fresh minds,

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Speaker 2: and I guess just a willingness and keenness to get

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Speaker 2: out of there and put their best foot forward. Other

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Speaker 2: teams have rotated a lot. You look at South Africa,

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Speaker 2: they'll rotate massively from week to week. It's probably not

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Speaker 2: something we've done massively in the past, and this week

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Speaker 2: we're seeing quite a few new fresh faces and that's

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Speaker 2: always exciting. So it's great for competition. It also gives

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Speaker 2: guys in the squad one to thirty six the chance

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Speaker 2: to put their best forward and grab a duty. Something

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Speaker 2: that's positive.

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's a sellout this weekend, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been. Yeah, it's been sold out for a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks, I think. So it's amazing. Sixty plus

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Speaker 2: thousand opt us so.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking all Blacks by twelve or more.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're right, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I think I will we go well, mate, Jordy Barrett,

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Speaker 1: who's out of Perth. Sixty thousand, good crowd, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: We wish them well. Kickoffs about eleven o'clock tomorrow night.

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