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Speaker 1: Staying on the roads. Motorcyclists are revving mad, with the

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Speaker 1: latest acc levy increase shooting up eighty percent over the

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Speaker 1: next three years. It's been announced motorbikes currently set it

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Speaker 1: around two hundred and ninety seven dollars a year that

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Speaker 1: will soon jump to five hundred and thirty two dollars.

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Speaker 1: The Motorcycle Advocacy Group New Zealand have logged a lodged

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Speaker 1: a complaint, i should say, with the Human Rights Commission,

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Speaker 1: stating that the costs are unfair compared to that of

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Speaker 1: private motor vehicles like cars. Terry Leach is the spokesperson

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Speaker 1: for the advacy group, is with us this afternoon. Terry

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Speaker 1: good a, welcome to the show. You feel a bit

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Speaker 1: hard done by here, and I can see why when

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Speaker 1: you look at the numbers. I mean that's quite eyewatering.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's enough to put people off riding motorbikes?

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Speaker 2: Well, I that's a sixty sort of a question. Well,

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Speaker 2: you already have a situation where acclevs for a motorcycle

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Speaker 2: and as have been quite high for quite some time,

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Speaker 2: and on talking decades in particular, they shot up to

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Speaker 2: quite a high base basically will be in twenty ten

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Speaker 2: when Nick Smith was the a SEC Minister that if

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Speaker 2: you remember that stage six thousand angry motorcyclests descended on

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Speaker 2: Wellington and what was known as the Beak or to

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Speaker 2: register their anger, and we are here. We are again.

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Speaker 2: It's just more of the same.

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Speaker 1: But there's a reason they're doing it, right, It's because

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Speaker 1: you guys have more accidents and cost them more money.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not that we have more accidents, it's just

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Speaker 2: that when we do have an accident, we're more vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: But just coming back to your original question, the way

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Speaker 2: that motorcyclists have been were motorcycle owners have been reacting

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Speaker 2: to these high fees in the past, we will just

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Speaker 2: now be amplified. And it's a it's a bit of

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Speaker 2: a counterintuitive move on the governments. But what happens is

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Speaker 2: is motorcyclists have got the opportunity of what they call

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Speaker 2: Red's commonly known as red joel on hold, which means

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Speaker 2: that if you're not using your motorcycle or if you

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Speaker 2: basically want to save yourself some money, you can put

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Speaker 2: your registration on hold.

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Speaker 1: So thet we take them off that road, But can

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Speaker 1: we can well technically yeah, okay, Terry. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Motorcycles account for less than one percent of vehicle kilometers

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Speaker 1: traveled on New Zealand roads, but twenty percent of serious

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Speaker 1: injuries from the crashes. I'm looking at the claims data.

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Speaker 1: You've got four more than four thousand claims last year

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Speaker 1: from motorcyclists, nineteen thousand for cars. There are thirty six

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Speaker 1: thousand motorcycles on the road and four million cars.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Look, this is a statistic rich topic. And let

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Speaker 2: me just throw another one at you there. And this

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Speaker 2: is one reason why motorcyclist feel a little bit hard

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Speaker 2: done by the heavy goods vehicle or truck fleet in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, and talking vehicles for trucks over three thousand

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Speaker 2: and five one hundred kgs. They travel for the six

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Speaker 2: percent of the nation's fleets total mileage per year. Those

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Speaker 2: trucks are involved and not necessarily the cause of, but

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Speaker 2: involved in eighteen percent of all fatal accidents in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: which is quite staggerd it's about I think it's about

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Speaker 2: eighty deaths per year.

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Speaker 1: We can't, I guess we can't take trucks off the road, though,

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Speaker 1: can we? Because they can.

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Speaker 2: Nothing like it. Here's the NUB. How much do you

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Speaker 2: think you will cost you a register of truck? We'll

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Speaker 2: tell you the most your pay is two hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty two dollars in terms of ACC fee. But how much?

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Speaker 1: The question is not how many accidents are they having?

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Speaker 1: It's how many claims are they making a truck driver

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Speaker 1: is making after an accident. You know that that's the

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Speaker 1: relevant piece of information, isn't it? Because because that's what

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Speaker 1: ACC is looking at is how much is it costing us?

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Speaker 1: And motorcyclist as you say, they are more vulnerable on

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Speaker 1: the road, which means they get hurt, which means it

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Speaker 1: costs ACC. And ACC is a user pays system and

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Speaker 1: you're the user.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that's part and paths. I mean, ever

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Speaker 2: since ninety ninety two when Bill Birch basically converted the

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Speaker 2: ACC from a compensation scheme to a insurance based model, yeah,

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Speaker 2: premium will lev's have been on a risk based assessment.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's fine, But part of the ACC Act

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Speaker 2: says that levis have to be fair. Now Here, here's

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Speaker 2: the NUB roughly one hundred and thirty five dollars to

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Speaker 2: register your your private motor car at the moment, that'll

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Speaker 2: go up to somewhere between one hundred and thirty eight

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five dollars once all the other

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Speaker 2: little that's sortvery feasible. The entry years.

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Speaker 1: Time, the increase is nowhere near the same as the motorbikes,

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Speaker 1: is what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Yep, and so so you're saying that's not fair.

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Speaker 1: That's not fair to you guys, that's not fair.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, one hundred and seventy dollars to register seven

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Speaker 2: fifty c C motorcycle, one hundred and forty odd dollars

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Speaker 2: to register your car. It's some disparity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, it certainly has. Terry, I can understand why

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Speaker 1: you are upset.

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