1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: early leadership with r V Supercenter, explore r V successories 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and servicing all in one news talks. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: They'd be well, good morning to you. No not Ryan 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Bridge today, Andrew Dickens has Ryan fills in for Heather 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: who lost her voice. Now coming up in the next 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: sixty minutes, Government is spending thirty eight million dollars on 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: business startup loans to beneficiaries and no one is checking 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: up on the results. We'll have that story for you 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: in five. Apparently over half of apprentice students don't finish 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: their training, so what's causing them to quit? 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: We'll have that story. In ten. 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: Authors are getting canceled because of AI Who and why? 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: Just before how Fast and a Business New Zealand report 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: warns of a shortfall of at least two hundred and 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: fifty thousand workers by twenty forty five. So where are 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: we going to get these workers from? We'll have that 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: story just before six. We'll have correspondence from right around 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: New zeal And. Peter Anderson joining us from the UK. 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: And you can have your say anytime you like with 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: a text ninety two ninety two in a small chat 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: jupplies at seven up to. 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: Five the agenda. 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the nineteenth of November. Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince 25 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: Mohammed ben Salmon is at the White House. He's here 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: to discuss deals on defense and civilian nuclear power, and 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 2: Donald Trump says the United States will sell F thirty 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: five fighter jets to the Saudis. 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: You're in a great lay. They've got to like us 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: very much. Look at the Iran situation. What we did 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 4: in terms obliterating there, We obliterated their nuclear capability. Yeah, 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 4: I will say that we will be doing that. We'll 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: be selling F thirty five. 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Jeffrey Epstein victims have been speaking in Washington ahead 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: of the United States House of Representatives vote to release 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: all the files. 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 6: I am begging every member of Congress, every representative, to 39 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 6: step up and choose the chaos. Choose the survivors, choose 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 6: the children's attacked the children. 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: The bill calls for travel records and names of individuals 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: and entities referenced in the investigation to be unveiled. Meanwhile, 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green is still heading out of Donald Trump 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: despite his change of heart on the bill. 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 7: I've never owed him anything, but I fought for him, 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 7: for the policies and for America first. And he called 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 7: me a trader for standing with these women and refusing 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 7: to take my name off the discharge petition. 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: And finally, Google's boss says every company in the world 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: would be affected if the AI bubble were to burst. 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: He says, while the growth of AI investment has been extraordinary, 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of irrationality in the current AI boom. 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 5: There are moments you or shoot right. Collectively as an industry, 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 5: we can look back at the Internet right now. There 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 5: was clearly a lot of excess investment, but none of 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: us would question whether the Internet was profound or did 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: it drive a lot of impact. It's fundamentally changed how 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 5: he worked. Did you as a society? I expect AI 59 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 5: to be the scene, so I think it's bought rational 60 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: and there are elements of irrationality through a moment like this. 61 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: More on AI just before five point thirty is coming 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 2: up ten past five. 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Brian 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: Bridge and r V Supercenter explore r these accessories and 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: servicing all in one news talks that'd be. 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: So the Greens yesterday threatened to cancel mining contracts and 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: permits retrospectively if they get into power, and it was 68 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: greeted by scorn from the Finance minister. Also act in 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: New Zealand, first Shane Jones reached for his thesaurus and 70 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: slammed it. Meanwhile, David Seymour called it economic terrorism and 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: the Finance Minister called it economic vandalism. But I'm going 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: to give the Greens some praise. It's better to know 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: what they want to do rather than having to second 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: guess them, something you can't say about Labour these days, 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: because who knows what they would do. Secondly, this is 76 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: absolutely what they've always wanted to do, so at least 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: they're staying true to their beliefs, which again is more 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: than you can say about many politicians. And Thirdly, the 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: simple point is if you agree with them, vote for them. 80 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: If you don't, don't simple as that they're nowhere near 81 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: power yet, but you know they're not wrong that the 82 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: world needs to get over burning stuff. But that doesn't 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: happen overnight. It is a process, and we're already so 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: much better than we were twenty years ago. It's just that, 85 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: as you grow your economy, your alternatives need to grow too, 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: and it's a never ending process. And this is why, 87 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: despite all our best efforts, we still need coal. And 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: I'd rather buy New Zealand coal than Malaysian And we 89 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: are buying coal. We need it to keep the lights on. 90 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: We've bought one million tons of coal this year alone 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: to keep the lights on. But you know what really 92 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: you to telling me about yesterday's drama was the claim 93 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: that counseling international contracts ruins our international reputation. And I 94 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: thought that was a little rich because the current government 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: easily canceled the cook Straight ferry deal and had to 96 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: pay a hefty amount to compensation. So are they any better? 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: Were we? 98 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: Is our reputation any worse? Alie Jones last night on 99 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: the panel noted that they canceled fair pay legislation. But 100 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't see women around the world samming us. And 101 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: this government is wearing the brunt of criticism about our 102 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: climate policy at COP thirty, but they don't seem to 103 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: mind that either. You know, governments cancel former governments deals 104 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: all the time, and it happens all around the world, 105 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: and people don't have conniptions, So let's stop thinking about 106 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: whatever other people think and it's just stay true to 107 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: our own beliefs that be Here's a shocking statistic for 108 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: this morning. Apparently the government spends thirty eight million dollars 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: on business startup grants to beneficiaries and the worst thing 110 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: about it is that they don't check out how well 111 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: the investment's going. We'll have the story for you in 112 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: a few moments time with Phil Wicks, who is the 113 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 2: Small Business New Zealand founder. It is twelve after five. 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's 115 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: early edition with Bryan Bridge and are these super center 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: explore of these accessories and servicing fall than one news 117 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: talks they'd be Good. 118 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 2: Morning to you Andrew Dickins today it is fourteen minutes 119 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: after five. We've got some evidence of bad spending by 120 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: the Ministry of Social Development and OIA by the Taxpayers 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: Union has revealed the government spent over thirty eight million 122 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: dollars on business startup grants and they gave them to beneficiaries. However, 123 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: the Ministry doesn't track the performance of the businesses to 124 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: see how they do once we give them the handout. 125 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: And the real kicker hundreds of those given the grants, 126 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: we're back on the benefit within two years. To talk 127 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: about this, I'm joined by Phil Wicks, who is the 128 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: Small Business New Zealand founder. 129 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 8: Morning to you, Phil, Good morning here are you? 130 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm good? Is this bad fund management? George just playing stupidity? 131 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 8: Well, I'll also entrepreneurship. You know it's being my life 132 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 8: with small business owner's. Starting business is hard. It's not 133 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 8: a quick fix round employment. If we're going to use 134 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 8: taxpayers made to help people into business has to be 135 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 8: more than just writing checks and wishing them a goodish 136 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 8: and good. 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: Luck, patting on the back and go go to it. 138 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to be rude, but the guys that 139 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: they've given the thirty eight million dollars to are already 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: unemployed and there may be a reason for that. 141 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, our starting a business is not a social service. 142 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 8: It's a high risk commercial decision. You need skills, planning, support, resilience, 143 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 8: not just a lumplification as you see to put on 144 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 8: the back. Now, often people on these schemes of the 145 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 8: furtherest from the labor market. I guess it doesn't mean 146 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 8: I can't succeed. And I said I'm all for entrepreneurship. 147 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 8: But it does mean they need more structure, more mentoring, 148 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 8: and clearer expectations, not less. And you got a proper 149 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 8: recourse on what happens as well. 150 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: You could say we have tracked this because we've found 151 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: out that hundreds of the people who got these grants 152 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: we're back on the benefit within two years. So we 153 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: can assume that the business has failed. And so we 154 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: can assume, you know, the whole program did not work. 155 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: So we should just stop it, shouldn't we? 156 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 8: Yes, I would think so if you take some he's 157 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 8: been on a benefit for a long time in government 158 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 8: grad Child'm not a business owner, but you don't wrap 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 8: proper support around them. You're almost you're almost setting them 160 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 8: up to fail and sending them straight back into straight 161 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 8: back into a benefit. 162 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: How should we spend thirty eight million dollars in a 163 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: better way? 164 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 8: Well, there are schemes, you know, there are some very 165 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 8: good government schemes. The capabilities out your scheme for one, 166 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 8: which is it's a small you know, I think it's 167 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 8: a very underfunded scheme. It's but it's very well run. 168 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 8: It's run very well by the regional business partners. There's 169 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 8: a good structure around it, and an office of generally 170 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 8: offers a very good returnal investment. You know, business owners 171 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 8: get up to it's fifty fifty funding, they get up 172 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 8: to five thousand dollars. But you can trace back and 173 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 8: we've done that with our own clients that have benefited 174 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 8: from that scheme. I think about a year ago, had 175 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 8: to look at everybody that had been throughout with and 176 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 8: we could measure that on average they over a long 177 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 8: term they've got about I think it was about one 178 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 8: hundred and eleven percent growth. Now that's a return on 179 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 8: investment that's well run. You can measure it, and you 180 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 8: know that those businesses that succeed off of more into 181 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 8: the economy, there's more tax that they're paying these more 182 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 8: people that they employ. So that's an example of a 183 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 8: of a really well run scheme. But there's a lot 184 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 8: of like I said, there's a lot of support support 185 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 8: around there. You know, if you're don't to do anything 186 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 8: like this, you must make the money conditional on mass milestones, 187 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 8: you know, finishing a business plan, complete training, show some 188 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 8: actual customers, hit some revenue, few targets. Yeah, yeah, well 189 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 8: that's our investors will work in the real world isn't 190 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 8: exactly right. 191 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: Execuate Phil works, I thank you for your time. Small 192 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: Business New Zealand founder more on this with Mike. He's 193 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: going to talk to Phil Riley. He's going to talk 194 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: about the whole thing. It does seem quite bizarre, doesn't it. 195 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: It is eighteen minutes after five, so we've had a 196 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: lot of talk about how you go to a tech 197 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: get a trade. It turns out that getting a traded 198 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: print inship isn't necessarily a good thing for everybody. In fact, 199 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: over half the apprentice trainees in New Zealand drop out 200 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: before they complete their course. 201 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: Why. 202 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 9: I don't know. 203 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: That's why we're talking to Gus Gilmore, who is the 204 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: CEO of Tippukinga, which, by the way is the text 205 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: that's the Institute's that's next here on news Talks here 206 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: b it's nineteen after five. 207 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Early Edition with r V Supercenter explore 208 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: r v's accessories and servicing. 209 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 3: All in one news Talks. 210 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: It'd be twenty one after five. I talked about the 211 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: Greens earlier, about their economic vandalism, their economic terrorism whatever, 212 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: and I said, well, they're just standing up for what 213 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: they believe in. Taylor writes, I don't know which way 214 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: it's all going to swing next year, and this all 215 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: makes me worried either way. All right, it turns out 216 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: a trade apprenticeship isn't the hail Mary. Some think it is. 217 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Over half of our apprentice trainees in New Zealand drop 218 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: out before they complete their course. Last night, Vocational Education 219 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: Minister Penny Simmons told Ryan Bridge how much we've wasted 220 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 2: on it. 221 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 10: It's tens of millions, probably getting close to hundreds of millions, 222 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 10: so it's quite a lot of money. 223 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 11: But it's a waste all round. 224 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 5: Really. 225 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 10: It's a waste for the government, but it's also a 226 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 10: waste for the employer. 227 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: So joining me now is the CEO of Tipper Kinger, 228 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: Gus Gilmore. 229 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Gus, Good morning Andrew. 230 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: Is the money spent on your thing a waste? 231 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 9: Look? 232 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 12: I think the initiative from the ministers she announced yesterday 233 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 12: is a really good thing. We need to continue to 234 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 12: research thoroughly why we're losing apprentices and a key to 235 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 12: that is first year attention rates. That's the canary in 236 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 12: the mind for us, and we've seen a steady decline 237 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 12: in those first year attention rates. 238 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 8: Why due to a. 239 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 12: Number of factors. 240 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Why. 241 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 12: There's sort of three main categories from the research we 242 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 12: did in twenty twenty three. The first one is the 243 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 12: system level type factors where the apprentice and the employee 244 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 12: don't have control over things like training, wage rates, low pay, 245 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 12: economic climate where are simply apprentices are unemployment and lose 246 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 12: their job due to the downturn in our economy. Second 247 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 12: major area is government compliance and immigration policy settings. So 248 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 12: in some sectors it's not a requirement to have apprenticeship 249 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 12: qualification and we see in those areas of our economy 250 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 12: the dropout rates are higher. And then the third major 251 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 12: category is government incentives and apprentice apprenticeship boost scheme is 252 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 12: a really good one. During twenty during the COVID period, 253 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 12: there was an incentive which paid employers to attract and 254 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 12: retain apprentices. Unfortunately, that turned into a bit of a 255 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 12: sugar rush and we saw huge growth and apprenticeship numbers, 256 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 12: but the completion rates foul. 257 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: So the ball is in your court. You're here to 258 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: train our next generation of workers. Can we fix it? 259 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 12: Yeah? 260 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 8: And there is an emerging positive picture. 261 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 12: As I said, the canary in the mind is our 262 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 12: first year attention rates. Last year in twenty twenty four, 263 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 12: we saw those first year rates move from sixty percent 264 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 12: to seventy percent. So we're going to see more apprentices 265 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 12: completing over the next three four years of their apprenticeship program. 266 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 12: But important initiatives likes providing support in the workplace. Two 267 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 12: apprentices is important. Apprentice is feeling valued, having the right 268 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 12: culture in the workplace, providing mentors from industry, those experienced 269 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 12: people wrapping their support around our young people while a're 270 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 12: learning on the job. 271 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: Good stuff, Gus, I thank you so much for your 272 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: time today and I wish you were the very best 273 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: of luck. And if you are doing this thing, stick 274 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: to it. It'll play off in the long run. Five 275 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: twenty four the early. 276 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: Edition for All the Show podcast on Iart Radio Power 277 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: by News Talks at Me. 278 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 2: News Books have B five twenty six. So there's a 279 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: bit of controversy in the Ockham New Zealand Book Awards 280 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: as two books by notable authors are withdrawn from competition 281 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: because their covers were created using AI. Shame on them, 282 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: Stephanie Johnson's collection of short stories called Obligate Carnivore and 283 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Smithers collection of Novella's Angel Train are the two 284 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: books canceled so their covers were created using AI, and 285 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: the Book Awards are on high alert for anything that 286 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: takes the place of human activity in the creative field. 287 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: The decision to amend the criteria around AI was spurred 288 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: by a desire to support creative and copyright interests of 289 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: the country's writers and illustrators. So, look, I understand the 290 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: concern from the creatives about the rise of AI, but 291 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: I don't think they really understand how AI was used 292 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: in these circumstances. So you make a cover, A graphic 293 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: designer does that. Sometimes they might commission an artist to 294 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: draw the cover. That's all good. More often, though, they've 295 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: been creating images using computer programs like Photoshop or Adobe, 296 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: but an. In all cases, a human is in charge, 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: and it's the same here. Elizabeth Smithers team had a 298 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: specific image of Mind combining a steam locomotive and an 299 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: angel inspired by Mark Schaghale, and then a human asked 300 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: AI to do it. It popped it out. Then a 301 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: human refined it is that any different to a graphic 302 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: designer pulling it together in Adobe? But AI is spooking 303 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: the creatives, right, AI bands have had hit albums. Now 304 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: Paul McCartney is releasing a single two minutes forty five 305 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: seconds of complete silence, in protests at all the AI 306 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: that is stealing a sound. Morgan Freeman is writing against 307 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: AI copies of his voice. But Elizabeth Smithers and Stephanie 308 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: Johnson wrote their books, and in Stephanie's case, the short 309 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: stories have been written over twenty years. But now her 310 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: work has been canceled because of a virtue signaling protest 311 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: against progress. She must be heartbroken. AI is out of 312 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: the genies bottle. It's important that whenever it's used, its 313 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: influence should be credited. But it still can't do its 314 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: own thing. It still needs a human to guide it 315 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: and set it on its way. So it's just like 316 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: any other tool, including a pen and a piece of paper. Meanwhile, 317 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: on AI on Thursday, we hear the Nvidia result. Now, 318 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: Nvidia is the bell weather stock of AI is the 319 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: chips that they use to fire this whole thing. And 320 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: there are bears and bulls and people talking about the 321 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: bursting of the AI tech bubble as being a thing. 322 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: And I just want to warn that AI is interesting, 323 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: AI is good, but AI is still in its infancy 324 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: and there's a lot a long way to go before 325 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: it becomes a terminator film. And I have to say 326 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: what interesting times we live in. And I don't agree 327 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: that Ockham New Zealand Book Awards should actually cancel. Stephanie 328 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: Johnson and Elizabeth Smithers. 329 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: Zibby, raise yourself. 330 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: We're going to play some Metallica in a few moments 331 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: time that is certainly not artificially generated by a computer. 332 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, some incredible stories around Metallica. So that's on 333 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: its way. Text through from Mark about their appredices. He 334 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: reckons half of them drop out because the training is subsidized, 335 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: if not free, and taken on by low income family 336 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: members who are unemployed. They train because they need to 337 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: do something, but then they find a paid wage employee 338 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: elsewhere and they leave for immediate dollars. But it does 339 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: mean that taxpayers dollars have been somewhat wasted in the 340 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: process Metallica. Our UK correspondent Peter Anderson, apparently the Chinese 341 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: spies are using LinkedIn. That's all on the way. I'll 342 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: tell you what's happened out of Cop thirty as well. 343 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: This is a news talk, said b in a fast. 344 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: Cut bars and we can fly stealing to make a 345 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: decision and leave none lived. 346 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: This way. 347 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 348 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and are the Supercenter. 349 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: Explore our these accessories and servicing all in one news 350 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: talk SETB never. 351 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 5: Want into you. 352 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: A little bit of Metallica to wake you up. 353 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: Hot and heavy. 354 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: They're playing tonight in Auckham's I'm Going. I can tell 355 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: you the weather is kind of misty rain and it's 356 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: pretty humid and warm. It's actually perfect music for hot, 357 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: hard and heavy metal music. So there we go. Now 358 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: there's gonna be traffic chaos all around, Eat and part, 359 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: they say, And there's gonna be traffic coias and orkhand. 360 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: The whole thing is sold out. However, if you really 361 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: want to go because you just heard a little bit 362 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: of sad Man, there are still VIP tickets available, but 363 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: hold your horses. They are not cheap. Metallica gives you 364 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: a snake pits experience. It's advertised at four thousand dollars 365 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: a ticket. You get your ticket, you get a lanyard, 366 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: you get exclusive standing sections seats, you get a meet 367 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: and greeting conversation with just two of the band members 368 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: and you get an official photo with them four thousand dollars. 369 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: You also get a tour backstage, a photo on stage, 370 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: and party with other fans pre show with free drinks 371 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: and canopies, and you get priority lanes at the venue 372 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: and taking. You get to take home some exclusive merchandise 373 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: and an audio file of the show from the night. 374 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: Four thousand bucks. 375 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 5: Can you believe it? 376 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: For one thousand you can get a ticket to the 377 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: snake pit standing section, pre show party entry, slightly less 378 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: merch and the audio file, no interaction with the band, 379 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: And for five hundred dollars you could get yourself a 380 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: four ticket with early entry, a Metallica drink bottle or cup, 381 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: one free beverage, early access to the merch stand and 382 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: a priority laying into the venue. Now, look, I love Metallica, 383 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: but not that much. It is twenty two to six. 384 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: Used dogs'd be around the country. 385 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: We go Callum Procter joins is from Otago. Good morning 386 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: to you, Callum morning, Andrew. So the Great Walks, there's 387 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: a lot of them down your area, but they're being 388 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: hit with delays and opening. 389 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, well the big one's milk for track isn't it, 390 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 13: And it's now going to reopen on Monday. Was meant 391 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 13: to be today, but it's been pushed out again after 392 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 13: significant spring snow and rain caused large avalanches on the 393 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 13: track that changed water courses to damage sections of the 394 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 13: track covered sections with debris as well, so another delay. 395 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 13: Dock's already been forced to delay it's reopening twice. November 396 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 13: eleven was the first date, the first postponed date that 397 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 13: was pushed out to today and November nineteen, so it's 398 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 13: now going to be Monday, which is the twenty fourth. 399 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 13: Doc says that these persistent avalanche conditions coupled with all 400 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 13: this unfavorable weather meant their work to reinstall some bridges 401 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 13: just wasn't possible until this week. They've been in direct 402 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 13: contact with the poor old walkers who have been impacted. 403 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 13: They're now looking forward to hopefully getting on with it 404 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 13: uninterrupted summer. 405 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 406 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: Well, I hear that the Rootburn track is still partially 407 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: closed because they've got wasiste deep snow. Meanwhile, we're playing 408 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: the plunket shield and cricket funny old time of the year. Hey, 409 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: how is your weather today? 410 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 9: Yeah? 411 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 13: Pretty good around the South mostly Dunedin's mainly find north 412 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 13: Easterly is today twenty to high. 413 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 2: To Christ here as we go. Good morning, Clear Sherwood, 414 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, very sad day, and I remember this day 415 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: very well. Fifteen years since the Pike River explosions of 416 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: what's happening hard. 417 00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 6: To believe it's been that long. 418 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 14: I know. Look, it has been fifteen years today since 419 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 14: twenty nine men died in the Pike River. Mind Anna 420 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 14: Osborne who lost her husband and Sonya Rockhouse, whose son 421 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 14: died today spending the anniversary. 422 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 11: Some are a little unusual, to be fair. 423 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 14: They're sitting down with the Workplace Relations and Safety Minister 424 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 14: at Brook van Valden. They did request a meeting and 425 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 14: they did also want the minister to watch the newly 426 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 14: released film Pike River ahead of it. They tell me 427 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 14: they're not sure of today's meeting and the timing of 428 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 14: it was intentional, but they do say most people would 429 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 14: like to spend an anniversary like this with their loved 430 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 14: ones commemorating in their own way. Anna Osborne, though, says 431 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 14: they do plan to sit the minister down tell her 432 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 14: how hard it is to lose a loved one at 433 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 14: work and to feel like it's being brushed under the carpet. 434 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 14: In fact, her words were that she still feels as 435 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 14: if no one in New Zealand gives a damn about 436 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 14: workplace safety the minister. We've been chasing some answers to 437 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 14: questions for several days now, and we do want to 438 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 14: know whether she's watched the movie. Her office have responded 439 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 14: they haven't said any of our questions, but they did 440 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 14: say this is a meeting requested by some of the 441 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 14: families and the Minister has accepted their invitation and will listen. 442 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, how'd you. 443 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 14: With her often cloudy simpatche light rain about this morning 444 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 14: nor the least easing and the high will be twenty 445 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 14: three to Wellington? 446 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 15: We go next, told good morning, good morning. 447 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: What's the latest we know from the sense and fire 448 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: that has broken all of their hearts. 449 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 16: Yeah, we've been waiting for this update and it came yesterday. 450 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 16: This house fire and Samson in man O, wa Tu 451 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 16: Saturday afternoon, absolutely horrific. Three young children under seven dead, August, 452 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 16: Hugo and Goldie and their father dead as well. At 453 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 16: first you thought, how could this happen at two o'clock 454 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 16: in the afternoon and Sadly, our suspicions were finally confirmed 455 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 16: that police are treating it as a homicide, i e. 456 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 16: A triple murder suicide potentially carried out by the father. 457 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 16: We understand he's a local businessman. The comment that really 458 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 16: stood out by police yesterday was that the father himself 459 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 16: was not burned in the fire. Post mortems have now 460 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 16: been carried out. We don't know exactly how the children 461 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 16: die yet. We don't know if they died in the 462 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 16: fire or were killed earlier. Potentially three hundred thousand dollars 463 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 16: so far raised in fundraising efforts for the children's grieving mother. 464 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: Okay, how's your weather? 465 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 16: Showers today? North least twenty today's Hey, you. 466 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: Never read of a man who joins me right now? 467 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 11: From morning to good morning. 468 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: I played some Metallica and talked about Metallica, and you 469 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: are going, oh, yeah, wow, it's going to be awesome. 470 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: Full house as well, fall house. It's not just eating 471 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: part that's going to be full. 472 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 11: No, you're quite right. So you know, we've also got 473 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 11: four thousand international delegates. They're going to be gathering the CBD, 474 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 11: the LTI As Center. Now, this is four the country's 475 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 11: largest ever academic conference celebrating Indigenous education, so we've got 476 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 11: that happening this week or happening right now. And Metallica, 477 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 11: so the much needed boost for Auckland hotels today fifty 478 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 11: seven thousand visitor nights, bringing them to full capacity. So 479 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 11: good news. 480 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: You cannot get a hotel room in Auckland. 481 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 11: And if you do, Crawul, you're probably gonna play like 482 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 11: three thousand. Hey, so what's the tips. What time are 483 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 11: you getting down there to Eden Park? 484 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: Well? 485 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 11: Will you be there by like three thirty? 486 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: There's a band Evanescence is playing also Suicidal Tendencies in 487 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: their Metallica, so you know they start playing from five 488 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: to thirty, so anytime. 489 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 11: Well, I live in that hood, so I'm not going, obviously, 490 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 11: but I'm looking forward to listening to it all from 491 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 11: my balcony. 492 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: Yes, and how is the weather for the concert? 493 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 11: Okay, well rain, but that'll be quite nice though. 494 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: It'll bead shower booky and yeah, that's. 495 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 11: Fit the mood. And it's still warm. Twenty two is 496 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 11: the high So yeah, looking pretty good for the fans. 497 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Never read your manner on the way. 498 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what happened at cop thirty and unfortunately 499 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: it's not good for us. And also there's this new 500 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: report out at the moment which is about always bad. 501 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: It's about how New Zealand will be in twenty fifty. 502 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: We won't have enough workers, pensions will absorb all of 503 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: our income tax and a whole lot more. We'll talk 504 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: more about this before six here on news Talk. 505 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: ZB International correspondence with ends and Eye durrants peace of 506 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business. 507 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: It is now fourteen to six. I made Ridd Dickens 508 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: to the UK. We go Peter Amison, good morning. 509 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 9: To you, Andrew, good morning. 510 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 2: Britis in Peace have been worn by Security Service five 511 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: that their risk are being targeted by Chinese spies through 512 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: LinkedIn Yeah. 513 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 9: The UK's Security Service mi I five has issued an 514 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 9: espionage alert to MPs in the House of Commons, but 515 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 9: also to Parliament's second chamber, the House of Lords. The 516 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 9: warning highlights a significant risk of espionage from the Chinese state, 517 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 9: with China believed to be targeting many of those working 518 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 9: closely with national politicians. It's understood that individuals such as 519 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 9: parliamentary staff, economists, consultants and advisors are being targeted for 520 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 9: so called insider insights. I five has even named two 521 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 9: bogus LinkedIn profiles which it believes are being used by 522 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 9: China's Ministry of State Security to target individuals working with 523 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 9: UK politicians, and China's aim is to create long term 524 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 9: relationships that can collect information and influence the UK's parliament. 525 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 9: According to MI five, Britain security services are also warning 526 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 9: of other methods being employed by China, including offers of 527 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 9: cash or cryptocurrency in an effort to buy insider information. 528 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: Well, if a stranger actually ask you how's your job 529 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: going on LinkedIn, I would say don't answer. Now we've 530 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: got take from Formula one is being used in a 531 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: scheme to provide faster and more reliable Wi Fi on 532 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: British trains. 533 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 8: Yeah. 534 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 9: Recent research has shown that the UK has among the 535 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 9: worst train Wi Fi speeds among Europe and Asia's major nations, 536 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 9: for example, with download speeds taking roughly sixty times as 537 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 9: long as they would in Sweden. Now one train company, 538 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 9: Great Western Railway, which covers the southwest of England, is 539 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 9: looking to address the problem thanks to racing car technology. 540 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 9: Its joined forces with a specialist tech company that used 541 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 9: to be part of Formula one. Business McLaren Group, and 542 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 9: together they're trialing a hybrid system that allows train Wi 543 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 9: Fi to switch automatically between the signal from mobile phone 544 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 9: masts on the ground and the signal from low earth 545 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 9: orbit satellites in space. And The boffins behind the idea 546 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 9: say the issues in accessing the Internet on a train 547 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 9: have many parallels with the challenges faced in motorsport, and 548 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 9: they hope their trial will enable users to reliably connect 549 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 9: to the Internet while traveling without dropouts. 550 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: Good South, Peter Edison, I thank you so much for 551 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: your time today. Now Cop thirty wrapped up in Brazil. 552 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: Four big takeaways or run you through them. First, the 553 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: world needs action, not promises. Leaders say it's time to 554 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: deliver on climate goals. Second, Forests front and center billions 555 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: pledged to protect the Amazon and support indigenous communities. Thirdly, 556 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: climate justice is key, Tackling inequality and building global partnerships 557 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: is the only way forward. And finally, and this is 558 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: the big one, and this is why I'm mentioning it. 559 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: This will affect us. Their final fourth takeaway, cutting super 560 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: per allutants like methane, the conference reckons that would slash 561 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: warming by half a degree by twenty fifty and that 562 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: would be a fast win and unfortunately, of course we 563 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: make a lot of methane. It's eleven to six Z. 564 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: There's a worrying new report out this morning from Business 565 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. It projects a short fall of at 566 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: least two hundred and fifty thousand workers by twenty forty five, 567 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: with health and pensions absorbing one hundred percent of our 568 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: income tax. And they also reckon there's a one and 569 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: four chance of no population growth at all, and they'd 570 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: like to see a national bipartisan vision. Leanne Watson is 571 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: the chief executive of Business Canterbury Joints. 572 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 7: Now. 573 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 15: Hello Leanne, good morning Andrew. 574 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: Not a pleasant read, but are they right? 575 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 9: Oh? 576 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 10: Look, I think there is a number of things in 577 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 10: the report that certainly requires some more robust thinking that 578 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 10: I think calling for too much by part of an 579 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 10: agreement might be a little unrealistic, particularly as we are 580 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 10: heading into an election year next year. What we do 581 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 10: need is a clear understanding of the go no go 582 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 10: areas from major political parties and definitely reducing that pendulum 583 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 10: swing to something more manageable for business. You know, the 584 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 10: business people I talk to around the country looking for 585 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 10: a conversation about steady, incremental progress, not a pendulum slift 586 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 10: shift which would potentially south go backwards. 587 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: So that's what a national, a nation bipartisan vision would 588 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: look to you just calm down, kick to full time goals. 589 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: But the thing that gets me is the two hundred 590 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand workers. I mean, we need workers, business 591 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: needs workers. Do we need to change immigration settings? You know, 592 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: what what can we do about this shortfall? 593 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 16: Yeah? 594 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 10: Absolutely, And look, I think you know there is definitely 595 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 10: air requirement here to ensure that we create some I 596 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 10: guess the scale and the timing of those policy settings 597 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 10: needs to be you know, really clearly laid out for 598 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 10: businesses and for migrants and salves. I mean, we will 599 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 10: always need international talent. We're a country at the bottom 600 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 10: of the world and we're a small country, so it's 601 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 10: a combination of both. 602 00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 12: Though we need. 603 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 10: International talent, we need to provide certainly around those immigration settings, 604 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 10: because when you're making a decision to move, you know, 605 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 10: from the other side of the world to a different country, 606 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 10: you don't do so lightly, and so having potential for 607 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 10: those settings to change from one government to another is 608 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 10: really unsettling for both those people making those decisions, but 609 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 10: also for the employers who are making big investments on 610 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 10: bringing people into the country. We also need to help 611 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 10: with her to grow our own talent, and we need 612 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 10: to make sure there's a really good interface between our 613 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 10: education sector and industry around future workforce planning, and some 614 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 10: of that has happening. You know, we've got a couple 615 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 10: of great universities in Canterbury, canib University in particular, really 616 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 10: engaged with our business community to make sure that they're 617 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 10: getting those conversations going and getting the right talent coming 618 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 10: through our education systems. 619 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: I'm loving your tone, though, because this comes out at 620 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: a bad time and we've had a hard year and 621 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: everyone's talking us down and you know, the confidence is low, 622 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: and then we hear this like by twenty fifty it's 623 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: going to be even worse. But you're she's saying there's 624 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: still a lot to look forward to. 625 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 10: Well, absolutely, I mean I'm from Canterbury and you know 626 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 10: we are fortunate we are in our region and you know, 627 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 10: in the South Island, you know, things are actually going 628 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 10: reasonably well. We've got you know, really great net month 629 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 10: internal migration. You know, we're seeing population growth, you know, 630 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 10: we're seeing export growth and so I think, you know, 631 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 10: there is a lot to be positive about around our 632 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 10: economy in the future. Has it been challenging for the 633 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 10: last sort of five years, Absolutely it has. But I think, 634 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 10: you know, if we get these settings right, if we 635 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 10: create confidence, and you know, we've been doing a bit 636 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 10: of work in Canterbary to provide some of the answers 637 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 10: to make sure that we do have a long term 638 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 10: vision and there's a role for the private sector to 639 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 10: play that in terms of having a really strong ambition. 640 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 10: There is a role for local government and central government 641 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 10: to create the right environment for you know, businesses to 642 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 10: do what they do best, which is to innovate, to 643 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 10: invest and to grow and all of us that's actually 644 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 10: government getting out of lay and sometimes the right. 645 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: Lead exactly, all of us working together, Lee and Watson 646 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: from Business to Canterbury. I thank you so much for 647 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: your time today. 648 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day early 649 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and r V Supercenter explore r 650 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: v's accessories and servicing. 651 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: More than one news talks. 652 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: That'd be all right, stop with the negative texts. 653 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 5: Don't need that. 654 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: I know what Business New Zealand has said but hey, 655 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: you're always got to look for good news. Aquaculture, Samford 656 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: profit up twenty two hundred and twenty four percent, and Mike, 657 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: you're talking to the Samford fellers today. 658 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. 659 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 15: He's an interesting bloke. In fact, it's a very likable guy. 660 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 15: He was at Scaler up until relatively recently, and Scaler 661 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 15: up for a good story in themselves. Of course, they're 662 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 15: more than just gun boots, and so he's moved into 663 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 15: Sandford and they had problems, so they've had so it's 664 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 15: a Samford story, not a fishing or aquaculture story. So 665 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 15: he's basically in a year since he's been there, turned 666 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 15: them around, paid off a lot of debt, and they've 667 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 15: got a China Bullish on China and interesting on America 668 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 15: as well in terms of terriff, because those are the 669 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 15: two main market. And muscles. See I love muscles. I 670 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 15: would have thought muscles if you'd ask me, I see, 671 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 15: I love them, But but I would have thought that 672 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 15: they're booming. People love Chinese love muscles full of mine, 673 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 15: full of proteins. Good, it's a protein story to Metallica, 674 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 15: of course, I am who doesn't who doesn't go to 675 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 15: Metallica when they're in town. Why is Metallica a thing 676 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 15: in terms of you know, it's going to be chaotic 677 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 15: and it's parking? 678 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 7: Is it? 679 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 15: I mean, why isn't I mean every constants the same, 680 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 15: every concident is the same. So is it going to 681 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 15: be exactly the same, exactly the same? Is it a 682 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 15: different sort of operator? Who's going? 683 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: Is that the Yeah? 684 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: I would say that you won't be able to see 685 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: the crowd because they're all in black T shirts. 686 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 15: Are they the sort of people who park their car 687 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 15: on lawns? Very probably? 688 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: Very probably? 689 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: Are you going? Yes, I am? 690 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 15: You have good time? 691 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: It's going to be fun. 692 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 15: Will honestly they. 693 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: Get a producer. N z Laker's next, a Heavy. 694 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: For More famili edition with Ryan Bridge. 695 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: Listen live to Newstalk STB from five am weekdays, or 696 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio