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Speaker 1: the Mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togstead been morning, and.

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Speaker 3: Welcome the Tamahery quashing and can the Crown really drum

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Speaker 3: up a new trial? Chris Bishop and his Auckland housing

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Speaker 3: balls up the Trade Minister? And where the labour of

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Speaker 3: playing games over the India deal? Mark and Jinny after

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Speaker 3: right Richard Ardel Steve Price there in the mix as well, Pasky,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the day. It is seven past six. Now

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Speaker 3: the Auckland housing number, the government's housing vision now looks

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Speaker 3: like a school project basically gone wrong. Chris Bishop, by

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Speaker 3: anyone's standards, a competent, if not excellent, political operator, appears

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Speaker 3: to have come unstuck on Auckland housing as two million

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Speaker 3: homes got the sort of reaction anyone with anything to

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Speaker 3: do with Auckland might have expected. So after a lot

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Speaker 3: of nashing and expletives, that got readjusted to one point six,

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Speaker 3: and now if you can believe it, it's down to

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Speaker 3: one point four. The real issue, of course, is the number,

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Speaker 3: and all numbers are huge, so they freak people out.

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Speaker 3: Not helping is the fact Bishop is not from Auckland,

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Speaker 3: from the Hut, which doesn't mean he can't make decisions

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Speaker 3: on Auckland. It just means he doesn't seem to know

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Speaker 3: what roch Rex Auckland is up, and the obvious suggestion

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Speaker 3: has made that maybe that's because he's from Wellington. Making

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Speaker 3: it worse is the government has a Minister for Auckland,

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Speaker 3: but he seems to be nowhere to be seen, and

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Speaker 3: one wonders whether he was in bishops Here at any point,

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Speaker 3: suggesting bandying around large numbers and causing confusion about high

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Speaker 3: rises and suburbia wasn't the smartest thing he could have done.

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Speaker 3: Not helpful either for the government given its election year.

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Speaker 3: Of course, like it or not, elections are won and

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Speaker 3: lost in the country's biggest city and economic engine room.

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Speaker 3: Also about to Land is a report on volcanic view shafts,

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Speaker 3: another of Auckland's special features. Bishop doesn't seem to get.

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Speaker 3: We can delve into it another day, but in assigned

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Speaker 3: Bishop is all about bottom lines and not the real world.

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Speaker 3: The report suggests there is four billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 3: lost productivity because of these view shafts, which averages out

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Speaker 3: to two and a half thousand dollars a house. The

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Speaker 3: inference being if we just got on and built stuff,

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Speaker 3: even if they are high rises smack bang in the

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Speaker 3: mid your rang a toto view, we would be off

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Speaker 3: to the races economically. I can tell Chris even before

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Speaker 3: the reporters released this will go down worse than the

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Speaker 3: original two million homes idea. In really simple terms, if

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Speaker 3: the National Party and Buy default the government want to

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Speaker 3: piss a large number of Aucklanders off, let Bishop loose

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Speaker 3: on the place and we'll catch up for a drink

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Speaker 3: at the opposition benches.

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Speaker 2: Who news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: For a bloke who claims he's winning and doesn't need

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Speaker 3: anyone anyone's help, he's doing a lot of whining.

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Speaker 2: I have a suggestion for you.

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Speaker 4: Number one, buy from the US we have plenty and

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Speaker 4: number two build up some delayed courage, go to the

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Speaker 4: street and just take it. You'll have to start learning

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Speaker 4: how to fight for yourself.

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Speaker 3: That was him on truth Social Despite what looks like

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Speaker 3: a fairy significant falling out between the US and the UK.

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Speaker 3: Of course it's being confirmed overnight, and it was not

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Speaker 3: always a sure thing. I can tell you that the

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Speaker 3: King's visit to Washington is on.

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Speaker 5: He will go in late April. That will have all

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Speaker 5: the pump and so many the banqueting, the gods of honor,

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Speaker 5: and it will be really kind of returning if you

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Speaker 5: like the hospitality that Donald Trump had when he came

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Speaker 5: to the UK.

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Speaker 3: Meantime, back of the well known market tried to Pete

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Speaker 3: Higgsith's Ministry of War. He's doing what he does so well.

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Speaker 6: If Iran is wise, they'll cut a deal. President Trump

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Speaker 6: doesn't bluff and he does not back down. President Trump

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Speaker 6: will make a deal.

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Speaker 7: He is willing.

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Speaker 6: If Iran is not willing, then the United States War

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Speaker 6: Department will continue with even more intensity.

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Speaker 3: There is, not surprisingly, a growing line of people that

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Speaker 3: don't actually believe a lot of the increasingly exasperated hot here.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I think he's flat out lying.

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Speaker 9: You know, oil price is now one hundred and twelve

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Speaker 9: dollars a barrel, and you know futures when in the

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Speaker 9: stock market down two percent last Sunday, he realized, oh

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Speaker 9: my god, I've got a financial cataclysm on Monday. So

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Speaker 9: he just made it up that they're in negotiations with

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Speaker 9: the Iranians.

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Speaker 3: Well, Pete put down is down. Jones spreadsheet long enough

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Speaker 3: to say this.

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Speaker 6: So on the talks I can tell you, having been

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Speaker 6: with Steve and Jared and the vice president and many

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Speaker 6: Marco and many others, actually they are very real. They're ongoing,

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Speaker 6: they're active, and I think gaining strength into rockets.

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Speaker 3: Artemises go.

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Speaker 10: The vehicle's ready, the system is ready, the crew is ready,

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Speaker 10: and behind this flight stands a campaign landings, a lunar base,

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Speaker 10: a nuclear propulsion, ended deep space that begins, not ends

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Speaker 10: with what happens on Wednesday evening. I have complete confidence

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Speaker 10: in this team in the NASA work for.

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Speaker 3: Us about twenty nine hours away. Finally, the universities of

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Speaker 3: Sydney and Calgary have looked into the need for a

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Speaker 3: plane to be evacuated within ninety seconds in an emergency.

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Speaker 3: And what they're suggesting is splitting up the elderly so

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Speaker 3: they aren't sitting beside each other to make see it

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Speaker 3: makes it all go faster, because you know what the

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Speaker 3: old people are like. They all got a browlly and

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Speaker 3: they all got their handbag, and they've dropped their lunch,

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Speaker 3: and then they've got to get under the seat and

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Speaker 3: Basically they can't move properly, so if there's any more

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Speaker 3: failed the ninety second test every time. So one idea

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Speaker 3: age restrictions or limiting the number of elderly on any

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Speaker 3: given plight, or indeed my idea doing dumb studies that

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Speaker 3: go nowhere. News of the world of night do you want?

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Speaker 3: It's the jobs blood bath this morning. Oracles literally just

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Speaker 3: announced they're cutting thousands of people. This will be AI

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Speaker 3: again and the other number out this morning from the US.

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Speaker 3: Businesses are adding workers at their weakest pace in fifteen years,

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Speaker 3: so the hiring for now is off. Twelve past six, The.

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Speaker 3: Be also on jobs. UNILBA internationally implementing a three month

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Speaker 3: long hiring pause. They cite the Middle East. They're a

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Speaker 3: company that employs ninety six thousand people, four hundred brands,

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Speaker 3: was the expectation from economists was it was going to

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Speaker 3: Fifteen sure and partners Andrew Kellah had good morning, Good

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Speaker 3: morning Mike, talk about ability to get into a funk,

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Speaker 3: real fast. What's twenty six points? Just like that? Bang,

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Speaker 11: Yesterday morning I said that we will start to see

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Speaker 11: the impact of the Middle East conflict on New Zealand data.

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Speaker 11: Well we didn't have to wait long for that, did we,

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Speaker 11: because you know, yesterday we had the release of the

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Speaker 11: A and Z Business Outlook and headline business confidence has

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Speaker 11: fallen twenty six points. That is a material move. So

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Speaker 11: as you talk about that through the rest of the morning,

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Speaker 11: might come. Sure you will have a smallas board of

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Speaker 11: colorful adjectives that you can use to describe that it

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Speaker 11: fell from fifty nine to thirty three, and am Z

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Speaker 11: do detail how the response has changed over the course

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Speaker 11: what that is, they quite dramatically worsened as the responses

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Speaker 11: July twenty fourth, so confidence as simply evaporated. So look,

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Speaker 11: the move in past activity. So past activity that's real numbers.

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Speaker 11: They ask people what has happened to your business compared

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Speaker 11: There actually was a fall there, sharpfall for retail. But

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Speaker 11: and I think Sharon Zola commented that some firms are

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Speaker 3: So there you have it.

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Speaker 11: Inflation indicators, they've gone up again, unsurprising percentage of firms

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Speaker 11: worrying sign for hopes of that employment revival and employment recovery.

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Speaker 11: Employment and tensions fell from twenty two to nine. I

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Speaker 11: been successful in arranging a rescue package. In this case,

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Speaker 11: it's a heavily discounted capital race. So they're looking to

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Speaker 11: raise sixty five point three million dollars in new capital.

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Speaker 7: That is fully underwritten.

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Speaker 11: Though what that means is they will get the money

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Speaker 11: regardless of how it comes as enough for prise of

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Speaker 11: did improve sales, but profitability was under pressure MIC so

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Speaker 11: loss of thirteen point one million. The shares will start

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Speaker 11: This year though, does look to have started better, and

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Speaker 11: let's hope that carries on for them.

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Speaker 3: Well, they seem to have a plan, don't they. They

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Speaker 3: say they've got a plan they do. Okay, what else

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Speaker 3: you canna tell me? Wellny, you look me up a

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Speaker 3: bit this morning.

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Speaker 11: You know, I've been saying just don't look at the headlines.

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Speaker 11: It's getting harder because these headlines are just starting to

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Speaker 11: become seemingly sort of kind of random. But we've had

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Speaker 11: a wonderful rally in the share market. I mean, the

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Speaker 11: Nastak's up three and a half percent, and I look

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Speaker 11: at that and I go, something must have happened. But

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Speaker 11: then I twist my head around to another screen and

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Speaker 11: we've got Brent Crude at one hundred and eighteen dollars

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Speaker 11: a bait.

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Speaker 7: So look, there could be a little bit of.

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Speaker 11: Jockeying going on because it's end of month over in

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Speaker 11: the US. But all I'm saying is just look at

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Speaker 11: what's happening on the ground. Is the straight up hoormers

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Speaker 3: It is not right numbers. Okay, the Dow Jones is up.

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Speaker 3: It's already our fastest growing export. It's worth seventeen million

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Speaker 3: all in their latest report. Graham Mullet is the CEO

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Speaker 3: Just first things first, at the stage, going well generally

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, in reading your report your four corner stones

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Speaker 3: See what I got out of this is you asked

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Speaker 3: Well, all I can do is wish you the best

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Speaker 3: will that makes sense to make Grin appreciate of Groanmuller,

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Speaker 3: A question Mike, why wouldn't that, gentleman think New Zealand

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Speaker 3: right path, and if you toss in a couple of

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Speaker 3: data centers, we're going to be squeezing the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: But it's certainly clean, and hopefully before long it will

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Speaker 3: be abundant as well.

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Speaker 14: Six forty five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 14: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Fadside morning, Good morning mate, I got you in excess

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Speaker 3: of six bucks and sokel for the gas.

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Speaker 15: Well, you know, there's no set price in California. The

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Speaker 15: various outlets set their own charges and their attacks and

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Speaker 15: things involved. So you find a range of these things

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Speaker 15: that can go up a lot higher. And so I

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Speaker 15: don't know, take me a while with the calculator to

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Speaker 15: do the currency conversion and change the US gallon through

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Speaker 15: leaders by three point seven eight or whatever it is

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Speaker 15: to the US gallon. But yeah, it's getting pretty pricey

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Speaker 15: as the bottom line here, and people are feeling it.

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Speaker 3: Exactly where are we at for the war?

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Speaker 15: Well, the question is where the Trump's going to prepare

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Speaker 15: to cut and run the Murdoco and Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 15: says several Trump aids say that Trump privately is suggesting

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Speaker 15: he's willing to end the war in Iran even if

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Speaker 15: the key oil pipeline for much of the world through

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Speaker 15: the state of Hormos remains largely shut down. British reporter

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Speaker 15: It Loose is the latest to speak privately with Trump.

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Speaker 15: He called him and yeah, sometimes Trump just picks up

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Speaker 15: the bone and talks away, and is saying that in

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Speaker 15: that chat, Trump kept returning to the idea of simply

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Speaker 15: taking Iranian oil, as the US did with Venezuelan and

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Speaker 15: oil after seizing the Duro, says Loose.

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Speaker 16: He was talking about taking around Goyle, how easy it

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Speaker 16: would be to seize car Guier.

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Speaker 15: He says, Trump kept returning to this idea of seizing

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Speaker 15: the Iranian oil, even as the scenario in Iran after

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Speaker 15: its leadership decapitation is quite different from what happened in Venezuela.

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Speaker 15: And Venezuela, of course, Delsea Rodriguez took over with the

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Speaker 15: remaining regime and life goes on in Iran. The country

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Speaker 15: still is in the sway of the Revolutionary Guard, which

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Speaker 15: has shown itself to be increasingly enraged. Iranian forces have

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Speaker 15: responded to the US and Israeli attacks a bit more

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Speaker 15: effectively than the Trump team had initially thought, hitting a

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Speaker 15: fully loaded oil tanker of Dubai in its latest drive.

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Speaker 15: Trump claims the negotiations have been underway with some Iranian leaders,

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Speaker 15: but LuSE asked the obvious question, who are you talking to?

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Speaker 15: Since Iran says there are actually no negotiations, the answer

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Speaker 15: appears to be they're talking directly with no one, says loose.

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Speaker 2: It turned out it's really all indirect.

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Speaker 16: It's Pakistan as a messenger.

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Speaker 15: Trump also has laid out another furious social media post.

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Speaker 15: You've been talking about some of this. He's telling uslos

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Speaker 15: or sometime allos, to just take the strait of Hormos.

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Speaker 15: Trump's saying, quote, build up some delayed courage, go to

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Speaker 15: the strait and just take it. You'll have to start

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Speaker 15: learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be

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Speaker 15: there to help you anymore, just like you weren't there

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Speaker 15: for us. The hard part is done, says Trump, who

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Speaker 15: adds quote, go get your own oil. Hegseth, the US

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Speaker 15: Defense Secretary, has echoed some of this at his briefing today.

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Speaker 6: This is an international waterway that we use less than most,

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Speaker 6: in fact dramatically less than most. So the world ough't

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Speaker 6: pay attention to be prepared to stand up. President Trump's

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Speaker 6: been willing to do the heavy lifting on behalf of

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Speaker 6: the free world.

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Speaker 15: Stand up.

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Speaker 3: He says.

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Speaker 15: It appears that the Trump team thought that your own

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Speaker 15: campaign could be done within a short period of time. Instead,

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Speaker 15: we're now past the one month market. Energy prices are

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Speaker 15: soaring around the world. Petrol prices here, as we've been saying,

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Speaker 15: have gone up to a four year high a mid

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Speaker 15: warnings they're going to go significantly higher from here on.

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Speaker 15: The Gulf States urging Trump to press on with the

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Speaker 15: US military operation now that the war is engaged. They

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Speaker 15: say it must be fully dealt with or the Gulf

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Speaker 15: States will be living in the region where Iran now

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Speaker 15: controls the oil flow. There will soon be ripple effects

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Speaker 15: in many other areas, including spiraling food costs and airline

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Speaker 15: costs and other transport costs affecting many many things. Trump

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Speaker 15: is threatening to destroy Iran's water and energy infrastructure. If

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Speaker 15: a deal to end the war and reopen the oil

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Speaker 15: route is not done soon, Trump's Whitehouse pr Carolyn Levitt

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Speaker 15: ignored a question about where the targeting civilian sites would

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Speaker 15: amount to a war crime. She simply dodged that if

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Speaker 15: the Trump team ends this war, leaving the Revolutionary Guard

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Speaker 15: in power and with a run controlling the oil in

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Speaker 15: a more direct way, that couldly run in some respects

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Speaker 15: in a stronger political position than before the war, despite

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Speaker 15: its military losses. At the same time, a ground war

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Speaker 15: obviously would be risky and turn this unpopular war into

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Speaker 15: a huge liability for Trump, whose favorability numbers have hit

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Speaker 15: their lowest points so far, just thirty three percent support.

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Speaker 3: Latest opinion seems positive with atemis it.

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Speaker 15: Does, of course, you'd never know until they get the

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Speaker 15: final countdown. But no human has walked on the Moon

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Speaker 15: in fifty four years. Pollo commander Jeens Sernan was there

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Speaker 15: in seventy two, and now the clock is ticking for

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Speaker 15: this planned launch of the Atomous two mission, taking four astronauts,

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Speaker 15: three Americans and a Canadian on a test flight to

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Speaker 15: loop around the Moon. This will be the longest distance

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Speaker 15: for a crued space flight in history. They will get

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Speaker 15: I guess, the close up of the dark side of

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Speaker 15: the Moon, then head back to the planet. Earth's commander

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Speaker 15: read WEISSMA four of us.

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Speaker 13: We are ready to go, The team is ready to go,

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Speaker 13: and the vehicle is ready to go.

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Speaker 15: To power this flight, NASA's built one of the biggest

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Speaker 15: rockets ever, ninety eight meters tall, so we're talking about

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Speaker 15: the height of a thirty story building. There are four

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Speaker 15: engines at the base and a couple of booster rockets.

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Speaker 15: Then right at the top is the relatively small Orion

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Speaker 15: space capsule. I saw a version of this capsule when

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Speaker 15: I was at Cape Canaveral. It's about the size of

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Speaker 15: a camper van with seats that are collapsible once they

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Speaker 15: get into space, but four people tight quarters here. Victor

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Speaker 15: Glover is the pilot. He is a former Navy test

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Speaker 15: pilot and says.

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Speaker 10: I think personally and professionally, it is going to satisfy

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Speaker 10: all of this risk chasing that I've been doing for

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Speaker 10: twenty seven years.

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Speaker 15: Okay, it comes as NASA hopes to land astronauts on

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Speaker 15: the Moon again. By twenty twenty eight, had a time

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Speaker 15: of much geopolitical descent Glover, saying that also was true

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Speaker 15: of the Apollo flights burred by the space race with Moscow,

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Speaker 15: but this time the US is back on board as

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Speaker 15: China and Russia both are gearing up to establish a

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Speaker 15: nuclear powered village on the Moon within ten years.

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Speaker 3: Well, mate, twenty eight hours, I've got so we're talking

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Speaker 3: ten eleven o'clock card tomorrow morning, our time, Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 3: State Side nine to seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs.

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Speaker 3: Head be Trump's sitting it up so that when he

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Speaker 3: takes the straight back and you charge for the ships

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Speaker 3: to go through it, I think you've slightly misread that.

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Speaker 3: I think he's I think that's something that Iran would want,

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Speaker 3: and you might end up with some sort of weird

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Speaker 3: co lab on that. But I don't think he's doing

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Speaker 3: it for himself. Mike, So, is Trump essentially trying to

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Speaker 3: hold the rest of the world to as an economic hostage?

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Speaker 3: I don't think Trump knows what he's doing. I think

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Speaker 3: the business that started to concern me were the Gold States.

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Speaker 3: When they got attacked. They were surprised, they said, they

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Speaker 3: were surprised how you could not see that coming. I

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Speaker 3: got no idea, and when they said it seemed surprised

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Speaker 3: that the Strait got closed as well. How they didn't

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Speaker 3: see that coming. I have no idea either, so I

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Speaker 3: think somebody convinced them it would be super simple, and

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Speaker 3: some stuff has happened. He doesn't know how to get

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Speaker 3: out of Hence he's whining a lot on social media.

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Speaker 3: Six away from seven, all the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business tiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level now.

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Speaker 3: In more SME news yesterday, SME is concerned about the

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Speaker 3: war today. The growth gap is getting wider between US

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Speaker 3: and the majority of the Asia Pacific. We've got the

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Speaker 3: CPA Australia's annual Small Business Survey, so that looks the

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Speaker 3: thousands of businesses across eleven markets, those markets being Australia, China,

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Speaker 3: Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, US, the Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan

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Speaker 3: and Vietnam. So it found that we're dead last, dead

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Speaker 3: last when it comes to our SME's growing second year

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Speaker 3: in a row, we've been dead last. Only thirty eight

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Speaker 3: percent of seme's reported growth last year on average. Not

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Speaker 3: good of those countries, sixty two percent c growth, so

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Speaker 3: sixty two versus thirty eight. Vietnam most growth eighty four

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Speaker 3: and a half percent of their businesses grow. Singapore is

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Speaker 3: our next closest competitor at forty three point five, which

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Speaker 3: is interesting because you think of Singapore as being broadly successful.

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Speaker 3: Other indicators are just five percent of our SMEs plan

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Speaker 3: to introduce a new product or service. That's down from

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Speaker 3: eight percent last year. That compares to the global average

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Speaker 3: of twenty nine. That's about innovation, I think be is

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Speaker 3: essentially that speaks to innovation or lack of it. Only

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Speaker 3: seven percent of our businesses say they will hire this year,

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Speaker 3: competer to thirty six percent on average. We also have

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Speaker 3: the oldest small business ownership sixty eight percent. Because that's

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Speaker 3: the culture, isn't it the culture in Asia? There's a

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Speaker 3: culture of running your own business, at least in part

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand. The culture is developed when you're made

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Speaker 3: redundant at your job and then you go buy yourself

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Speaker 3: a job via your own business. We aren't all miserable though,

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Speaker 3: despite those number. Seventy nine percent in New Zealand say

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Speaker 3: the satisfied with running their own business and I think

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Speaker 3: that also goes to attitude, because I know a number

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Speaker 3: of people who run their own business and they run

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Speaker 3: it in a way, not that I would say this

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Speaker 3: to them, well I do sometimes say it to them.

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Speaker 3: They don't like me. They run it in a way

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Speaker 3: where they like a nice long weekend, you know, and

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Speaker 3: they're in the service industry, and then the closing down

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Speaker 3: for Easter, or they love a Friday off, or they

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Speaker 3: knock off at two thirty. And you want to say periodically,

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Speaker 3: you realize if you stay open longer, you'll actually get

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Speaker 3: some more bizzarh. Nah, it's been a long week, Mike.

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Speaker 3: That's the sort of thing.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's got that about it. It's got that vibe about it.

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Speaker 3: Do we care about Winston going to the cooks. I'm

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Speaker 3: really struggling to grow some interest in the court. I

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Speaker 3: couldn't give the monkeys about the cooks. If that Mark

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Speaker 3: Brown guy wants to hang out with China and treat

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Speaker 3: us badly, then he can go get lost. That would

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Speaker 3: be my Costking Foreign Minister, go get lost. Unfortunately, Peter's

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Speaker 3: is jumping on a plane and he's going across. So

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about that in the next half hour of

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Speaker 3: the program. Trade Minister back in the country, Todd McLay

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Speaker 3: want to get them on Reindia and labor mucking around

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Speaker 3: with it. What's going on there?

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Speaker 1: Incredible compelling The breakfast show you can't best. It's the

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Speaker 1: mic asking Breakfast with Ranger over Sport SV the Ultimate

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Speaker 1: Performance SUV News togs ed V.

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Speaker 3: Seven past seven. So we're trying to patch up the

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Speaker 3: falling out we've had with the Cooks. Winston Peter said

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Speaker 3: to meet with the Cooks. PM Mark Brown follows a

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Speaker 3: private meeting the two head last week. Here we've got

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Speaker 3: this thirty million dollars in aid still suspended.

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Speaker 12: Of course.

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Speaker 3: Doctor na Poles is Massi University Associate Professor and the

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Speaker 3: Center of Defense and Pacific Care Security Studies, and is

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Speaker 3: with us in a good morning, good morning. Who's working harder?

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Speaker 12: Hear?

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Speaker 3: And who needs to more?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 17: I think from the sound of it, both sides are

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Speaker 17: working fairly, fairly hard. It's certainly very clear that over

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Speaker 17: the past past six months, certainly that the Cook Islands

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Speaker 17: have really prioritized mending this rist. Most notably was the

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Speaker 17: appointment of the former High Commissioner to Tenisei and Elizabeth's Courteca

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Speaker 17: Wright as head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and

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Speaker 17: she has been explicitly instructed to rebuild bilateral trust between

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Speaker 17: the two countries. So there's no doubt that both sides

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Speaker 17: are making it a significant effort.

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Speaker 3: And was this really about Mark Brown or about the Cooks?

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Speaker 3: Is Brown an issue or not?

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Speaker 17: Well, the issue for New Zealand was the lack of

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Speaker 17: consultation around the signing of the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership with

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Speaker 17: China in twenty twenty five and lack of consultation. So

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Speaker 17: the issue is about expectations under the Joint Declaration between

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Speaker 17: between the two countries which were signed in two thousand

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Speaker 17: and one called four of that and call seven stipulates

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Speaker 17: consultation between the two countries. So the tension was around

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Speaker 17: xations and understanding of the agreement and the spirit of

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Speaker 17: it and procedural expectations around consultation.

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Speaker 3: And would you expect some sort of arrangement to be reached?

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Speaker 3: In other words, is this a meeting that's going to

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Speaker 3: come out with something tangible?

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Speaker 17: I think hopefully it will the fact that Wes Peter's

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Speaker 17: the Mark ground mattin formally at West and Peter's Home

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Speaker 17: released a joint statement afterwards, stating that they had been

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Speaker 17: engaged and that they held a private meeting and that

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Speaker 17: they had discussed the fundamental challenges facing the relationship, the

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Speaker 17: bilateral relationship, and that political dialogue will continue in the

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Speaker 17: coming weeks. So I think that we will certainly we

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Speaker 17: can expect to hear something positive out of this. But

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Speaker 17: whether or not this how this put the relationship is

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Speaker 17: progressing is it's less clear.

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we'll hear something tomorrow. Appreciate it very much,

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Speaker 3: Doctor Anipol's out of a MESSI University, ten minutes past

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Speaker 3: seven tem A. Here a case, fascinating example of the

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Speaker 3: judicial process basically being worked every which way. It began

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Speaker 3: an eighty nine, for goodness sake, with the convictions of

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Speaker 3: the murders of the two Swedish backpackers. Supreme Court yesterday

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Speaker 3: quashed those convictions. Trial was unfair, evidence was concocted. Two

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Speaker 3: things now a potential retrial and potentially compensation. Nigel Hampton

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Speaker 3: k C is back. Whether there's Nigel morning to you,

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Speaker 3: good morning the Court of Appeal last year or in

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Speaker 3: twenty four rather, the Harris bit of that story they

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Speaker 3: thought he was still guilty and didn't quash. Is that

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Speaker 3: is that a major error on their part? Why would

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Speaker 3: they have done what they did?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 18: It is a major era, like right than the time

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Speaker 18: I found that they've been a miscarriage, then that had

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Speaker 18: to go back for retrial. There were so many fundamental

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Speaker 18: things wrong with this trial going back into the eighties,

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Speaker 18: as you say, thirty six thirty seven years ago, just

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Speaker 18: incredible when you look back. But there were three peatures

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Speaker 18: here that common to miscarriages of justice, and the three

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Speaker 18: that in this particular case were one some eyewitness identification evidence,

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Speaker 18: which was always somewhat shaky, and indeed, before the original

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Speaker 18: trial started the first trial judge wanted to knock that

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Speaker 18: evidence out that course of poll put it back. Secondly,

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Speaker 18: they then had the child house confession stuff, one of

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Speaker 18: which that they used the police used to sort of

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Speaker 18: bolster the identification evidence. And of course one of those

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Speaker 18: snitches turned out to be completely made up, perjured evidence,

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Speaker 18: and that's always the problem with snitch evidence, So that's

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Speaker 18: usually obtained under difficult circumstances where often corrupt practices are present. Thirdly,

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Speaker 18: we had a police inquiry that was driven not by

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Speaker 18: the evidence, but by finding a suspect and fitting the

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Speaker 18: evidence around them. Now, put those three things together and

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Speaker 18: you get a miscarriage.

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Speaker 3: Is one of those cases? Is this one of those

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Speaker 3: cases that there was a period in this country where

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Speaker 3: the police were dodgyes basically, And we've got a number

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Speaker 3: of cases now that have been plushed through the system

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Speaker 3: and shown that to be the case.

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Speaker 18: Seventeen and eighties where I had primary focused first on miscarriages.

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Speaker 18: It was a period where, particularly in high profile matters,

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Speaker 18: the police wanted to solve things, desperately wanted to have

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Speaker 18: a suspect, and then finding a suspect desperately wanted to

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Speaker 18: fit the evidence around that suspect instead of having an

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Speaker 18: evidence lead inquiry. And there was so much of that

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Speaker 18: going on, too much of it going on through those decades,

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Speaker 18: seventies and eighties, and still we have some hangovers from

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Speaker 18: it in today's practices. We try to eliminate it, hopefully

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Speaker 18: we can, and we're left with this wash up thirty

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Speaker 18: forty years on of writing the wrongs that were done

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Speaker 18: in terms of those trials.

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Speaker 3: They can't retry this, can they? Realistically?

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Speaker 18: I would thought, realistically it won't happen. Attrition of memory

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Speaker 18: over time, attrition of light is over time. It's thirty

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Speaker 18: seven years on. Is there a public interest this man

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Speaker 18: has been in jail for twenty plus years. What's the

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Speaker 18: public interest? So one, evidential problems there, I've thought. Secondly

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Speaker 18: public interest Is it really in public interest? No, it's

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Speaker 18: my guess is it's unlikely to go to trial.

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Speaker 3: And the compo would be well done on a per

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Speaker 3: year calculation, like other compostmen done well.

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Speaker 18: That's if it happens. The conversation thing is a very

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Speaker 18: difficult process, Samma Hery. If there's no retrial, he's the

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Speaker 18: deemed to be innocent. He's the and if he's going

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Speaker 18: to get conversation, he's got to prove to the satisfaction

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Speaker 18: of the government of the day in the fact that

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Speaker 18: he was innocent. He's it's not, it's the other way around.

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Speaker 18: He's got to proof his innocence on the dance pub

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Speaker 18: disease and then this formulae thing that is in the

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Speaker 18: cabinet papers.

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Speaker 3: Right, I met, nice to talk to you, appreciate it

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Speaker 3: very much, Nigel Hampton case I'll come back. So there

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Speaker 3: will be many people listening to this program that don't

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Speaker 3: remember much of it's talking to Ryan. Ryan's thirty seven

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Speaker 3: years old. He was two years old when this case started.

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Speaker 3: So that's how long it's been going anyway more shortly

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Speaker 3: fourteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Like asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 3: That be right. Tom mcclay's back in the country, the

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Speaker 3: FDA and Labour's problems with it with India, will talk

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Speaker 3: about it truly. Seventeen past seven. Have you ever seen

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Speaker 3: more meddling and fiddling the government's housing intensification plan for Auckland.

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Speaker 3: It started at two million new homes, then it became

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Speaker 3: one point six and as I yesterday it's now one

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Speaker 3: point four. Has got clock up written all over it.

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Speaker 3: Hamish Firth is the director of the Mount Hobson Group,

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Speaker 3: an urban planning specialist and as with us, Hamish, good

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Speaker 3: morning to.

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Speaker 12: You, Bonnie Mike.

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Speaker 3: Is it about numbers or not? I mean, are they

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Speaker 3: just making up numbers and pulling them out of there

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Speaker 3: you know where?

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Speaker 12: You know, here's the feel of being being more numbers

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Speaker 12: than being going a Tuesday at the Cozi Club. This

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Speaker 12: is too important, This is far too important for us

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Speaker 12: to be meddling behind the scenes. You know, I can

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Speaker 12: see the people driving over the coimis the bomb bays

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Speaker 12: right now, their eyes glazing over. They do they don't

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Speaker 12: want this to be on the front page now. They

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Speaker 12: expect that the people in the room have got a

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Speaker 12: modicum of intelligence and when they launch a plan, it's

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Speaker 12: it's based on common sense, it's based on logic, and

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Speaker 12: it's going to work for Auckland. And quite frankly, this

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Speaker 12: is a shit show.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe. See Bishop, I don't know what your

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Speaker 3: politics are, but Bishop's a good operator. How's he copped

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Speaker 3: this up so badly?

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Speaker 12: Because this needs to be by Auckland for Auckland. Putting

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Speaker 12: a mandate on of two million homes was lunacy of

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Speaker 12: the highest order. From the very beginning. It has been

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Speaker 12: wrongly directed. My advice is of Auckland had the opportunity

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Speaker 12: to do this plan, change, to review the district plan,

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Speaker 12: to do what they meant to do, they wouldn't have

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Speaker 12: come up with a figure of two million, one point

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Speaker 12: six or one point four. They would have done it

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Speaker 12: in a much more measured, measured way. I have to

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Speaker 12: take you back to twenty twenty. The national policy stayed

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Speaker 12: in an urban development. Really simply, they said, within two

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Speaker 12: years you need to mandate effectively increases around town centers

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Speaker 12: and railway stations.

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Speaker 8: Quite simple.

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Speaker 12: Six years on and we have even achieved that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Hamish, appreciate your insight, like it like

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Speaker 3: the cannabis. Jim for our Homers, first director of the

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Speaker 3: Mount Hopson Group, urban planning specialist, Mike, with respect, you

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Speaker 3: were surprised that the Homu Strait vulnerability was overlooked by

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Speaker 3: the US. You cannot see our vulnerability of China as

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Speaker 3: a foothold in the Pacific Ian. You've missed the subtlety

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Speaker 3: of my argument. I've seen it many times before. I'm

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Speaker 3: very well aware of the Chinese presence in the Pacific.

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Speaker 3: But the Winston Peters line is friendship trump's checkbooks. My

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Speaker 3: argument is checkbooks trump friendship, and that has been proven

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Speaker 3: by the Chinese presence in the Pacific. So, in other words,

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Speaker 3: if you're looking to wander over to Mark Brown yet

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Speaker 3: again and go mate, come on, we've been friends forever.

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Speaker 3: The checkbook from China is going to beat that. So

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Speaker 3: reality versus theory is all I'm arguing.

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Speaker 3: For goodness sake, you're going to want to have a

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Speaker 3: I can help Steve Abel. Steve is the Greens agriculture bloke,

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Speaker 3: and he wants an urgent inquiry into what he's heinz

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Speaker 3: Mess and Hawk's Bay. He's wasting his time, of course,

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Speaker 3: not because he shouldn't be concerned, because he should. We

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Speaker 3: should all be concerned. But the answers he seeks are

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Speaker 3: already readily available. He asks about four main things, the

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Speaker 3: regulatory environment, energy costs, foreign owner indifference, and anti competitive behavior.

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Speaker 3: From the supermarkets Well newsroom, as in the website, they

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Speaker 3: wrote a very solid piece about all of the several

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Speaker 3: weeks ago featured on the program, in which it was

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Speaker 3: broadly concluded the troubles in the bay have been coming

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Speaker 3: for basically a decade, so some late breaking alarmism from

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Speaker 3: Steve via yet another committee addresses nothing. Costs in this country,

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Speaker 3: of course, are too high, and I refer you to

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Speaker 3: Paul Conway's speech last week to a bunch of financial operators.

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00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: We are unproductive, have been for years. Supermarkets have indeed

873
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: played a part the home brand scenario, damaged the more

874
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: premium brands and what etc. Have suffered because of it. Now,

875
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: is that anti competitive or offering more competitions? See does

876
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: the pun to want choice and price range? I would

877
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: have argued yes, energy costs specifically, well, what Is and

878
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 3: Hindes have both spoken to this. They are ruinous gas

879
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: or lack of it has killed a lot of manufacturing

880
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: in this country. The Greens might like to ask themselves

881
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: why they got obsessed with solar panels and band gas

882
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: before there was enough solar panels to cover the energy gaps?

883
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: Are the old regulatory and vine Now that's an interesting

884
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: one because Labor and Nikola Willis have both jawboned rules

885
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 3: and REGs and watchdogs and ComCom investigations. But to what avail,

886
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: nothing has changed, which either means there is nothing to

887
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 3: change or they're useless foreign owner indifference. Now, I would

888
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 3: suggest that sounds a little bit xenophobic on Old Stevie's part. Yes,

889
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: I know what he means. Could be a massive player

890
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: in Detroit. Could they sit in Detroit cut ties without

891
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: losing sleep? And little old New Zealand at the bottom

892
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: of the world. Of course they could, but no one

893
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: invests and runs businesses or does it with indifference. They're

894
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: all invested now, between the dumping, the cheap stuff consumers prefer,

895
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: the size of our market, and the ruinous cost of energy.

896
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: You see, it's all there as a combustible recipe to

897
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: blow up a lot of business models. Peas in a bag,

898
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: Peaches in a tin is one of the victims. The

899
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: inquiry is not needed, husky Mike. Actually I should mention

900
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: silverfern pharma. See this is starting to hit the Middle

901
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: East thing silverfern farms which have gone to a profit.

902
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: And I might work through this so if I get

903
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 3: time later. But they've gone from two years of losses

904
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: to a profit, yay them, and very fine product and

905
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. Anyway, they've suspended their exports

906
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 3: into the Gulf States at the moment, so we'll talk

907
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: to Todd about that in a moment, and the Trade

908
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: Minister's with us. Might I know we're all bored talking

909
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: about fuel prices. Well there's your first mistake, and I'm

910
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: not remotely bored. I love talking about fuel prices, but

911
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 3: I've just driven down Wyral Road, Glenfield. Did you drive

912
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: down Wyrail Road? I don't go to Wyral Road often

913
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: because mainly it doesn't move, so I don't know that

914
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: you drove down it, but you might have been there

915
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 3: for a while. Anyway. Diesel is now ten cents more

916
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: expensive than ninety one. How can this speed? Well, it's

917
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: very simple, Joe. The answer is it is an internationally

918
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: traded commodity oil as is refined petrol. Diesel is in

919
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: big demand because the people who broadly speaking use diesel

920
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: use a lot of it, and we have less diesel

921
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: then we have regular That's why I noted in christ

922
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: Church the other day that ninety eight is the same

923
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: as ninety five. Why because not many people use ninety eight,

924
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: so they need to discount the price of ninety eight

925
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: to get people to use it. Hence, they're putting the

926
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: price of diesel up because apply and demand. The demand

927
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 3: is up, therefore the price rises as well. So you'll

928
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: see more and more of this because as people with

929
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: regular petrol stop driving as much, that might well bring

930
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: the prices down because they need to shift the product.

931
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: But diesel won't go down because the people who use diesel,

932
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: have to use diesel because it's business related and they

933
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: don't want their business to be hit, hence the price

934
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: goes up. I hope that's simple enough for you. Todd McLay,

935
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: Trade Minister. Back in the country, this FTA with India,

936
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: Watt and Earth is going on.

937
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

938
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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better

939
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural use.

940
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: Togs dead me cards.

941
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: Ex twins they mark juiney after eight o'clock they do

942
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: you know? I miss Question Time yesterday for the first

943
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: time and how many years I can't remember anyway, because

944
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: I was recording it and we had a power cut

945
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: and I thought what am I going to do with

946
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: the pat And the first thing when the power went

947
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: off yesterday, apart from the thinking to myself, yeah again,

948
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm living in a third world country, the first thing

949
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: that came to my own with the parilain off is

950
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: that's the recording of Parliament Question Time, don isn't it?

951
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: And so it came back on with question ten, So

952
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 3: Question ten, eleven and twelve I saw, so I missed

953
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: the first night. So if you happen to watch it,

954
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: Just let me know what happened if there was anything gripping. Anyway,

955
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: back to business, the FDA with India. What's going on here?

956
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: The leader of the labor parties apparently finally written to

957
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: the Trade Minister where their various concerns. Basically the text

958
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: doesn't match the public utterances of the government is what

959
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 3: they're saying. But the government of course needs labours numbers

960
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: given New Zealand first doesn't want to bar of it either. Anyway,

961
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 3: The Trade Minister, Tom McLay is back with this good morning, Hey,

962
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: make come onic. The labor issues are what specifically and

963
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: are they material?

964
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 19: Well to second letter that mister Hopkins is sent to us,

965
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 19: and they are similar to the first time we've had

966
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 19: a formal meeting where I went through it or with

967
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 19: negotiators with Chrissy there. Plus is there spokesman Damon O'Connor.

968
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 19: There's been a lot of engagement and so on. Look,

969
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 19: I've had Damien O'Connor with me off at the Double

970
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 19: German's draw meeting down and Cameroon. Because trade is meant

971
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 19: to be bipartisan, We've been going through it a lot.

972
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 19: There's a formal meeting I've set up for them again

973
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 19: with other negotiators and the experts to talk it through.

974
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 7: And we'll see.

975
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 19: But I don't see anything material in what they are

976
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 19: raising other than missing the point. It's one point four

977
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 19: billion people and every other country of the world would

978
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 19: like the trade deal we've got.

979
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: Is Damien on the same page as Chris.

980
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 8: Well.

981
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 19: So Damien knows a lot about trade negotiation. He's done

982
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 19: a couple of deals. He did the EU one. He's

983
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 19: very experienced. He's in a space where they want to

984
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 19: know a little bit more. But I think he probably

985
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 19: sees the benefits of the agreement first rather than some

986
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 19: of the small technical detail they're going through now.

987
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 7: But look, we're going to be We're going to do

988
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 7: this in good faith.

989
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 19: As I said, there's a formal meeting I've set up

990
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 19: for them tomorrow as long as they know they can

991
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 19: look at the advice that we've got and go through it.

992
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 19: But it's really straight forward. They need to come to

993
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 19: a point of making a decision pretty certain. The legal

994
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 19: scrubbing is almost finished. We then have to sign the agreement.

995
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 19: Parliament then scrutinizes it fully and gives a report back

996
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 19: and then we you know, then we have a vote

997
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 19: on the legislation later on I will be lucky to

998
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 19: sign it, put it in parliament. So every New Zealand

999
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 19: and all of Parliament, can you know, ask the questions

1000
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 19: and go through it, not just mister Hopkins in closing right, So.

1001
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: It will be signed and it will go to parliament.

1002
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: Would you do that willingly without having the numbers and

1003
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: knowing you.

1004
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 19: Have the numbers, well, well, the legislation to an actor

1005
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 19: is much further down the track. It's not the first part.

1006
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 19: So the first part is of the trade agreement you

1007
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 19: negotiating conclude. So so they're give you an example with

1008
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 19: the CPTPP, which Labor in the end did because the

1009
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 19: government change. They didn't have the numbers, because the Greens

1010
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 19: wouldn't support it. They signed it, they put it in

1011
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 19: parliament and it's called you know, has the first scrutiny.

1012
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 7: So it's the the agreement, the table.

1013
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 19: It goes off to a committee, people submit, they go

1014
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 19: through it, they have their say on it, a take

1015
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 19: some period of time, comes back with a report. Then

1016
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 19: there afterwards you make the case for where you want

1017
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 19: to get your numbers. Labor came to us and we

1018
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 19: gave them support for it back then. So this isn't

1019
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 19: unheard of, unprecedented, but Mike's the high quality there one

1020
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 19: point four billion people. It is important Parliament gets to

1021
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 19: scrutinize it, not just individual party's closed door.

1022
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: Okay, a couple of other things while i've got your

1023
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: silverfern farms have announced their suspending trade up into the Gulf.

1024
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: Is this going to become a thing, well, it is concerning.

1025
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 19: I was talking to the UA Trade minister just today

1026
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 19: or so a guy, so I met with Saudi minister stuff.

1027
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 7: You know, I've just been off to the Double GM

1028
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 7: meeting with.

1029
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 19: Cameroon and ultimately they're working through their logistics and how

1030
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 19: they get stuff in and out, and so I think

1031
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 19: for silfern farms it wasn't a large part of their

1032
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 19: trade and probably they're saying the costs making their product

1033
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 19: and prohibitive there. What I heard from the UI Trade

1034
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 19: Minister is they are working on logistics to make sure

1035
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 19: God's moved freely. The challenges are set as costs and

1036
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 19: they're working on that too. But it's going to be

1037
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 19: with us for a while, so I don't think we're

1038
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 19: going to see this widespread. But obviously silver firms have

1039
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 19: just decided that, you know, the cost don't work for

1040
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 19: them just at the moment, right.

1041
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: The wto I read a piece the other day that

1042
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: I never thought i'd get to ask anyone about, but

1043
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: it turns out you're the man. So the thing with

1044
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: the US and India and extensions and America wants a

1045
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: longer extension and India wants a shorter extension, and there

1046
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: was a standoff. One do you know what I'm talking about?

1047
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 3: And two is that material? And three is it getting sorted?

1048
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 7: So that's over e commerce. So it's an e commerce miratorium.

1049
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 19: Two years ago I was the negotiator and we got

1050
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 19: it extended. What this means in countries in the world,

1051
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 19: so they won't put tariffs on on e commerce. America

1052
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 19: wants it to be permanent moratorium, as I do, and

1053
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 19: it is going to support them. India actually was in

1054
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 19: the same space. They moved a long way or willing to.

1055
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 19: In the end, it was a couple of other countries

1056
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 19: I think Turkey and Brazil that blocked.

1057
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 7: Is deeply disappointing. Yes, it will be worked out over.

1058
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 19: I've signed a declaration with the US as many other

1059
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 19: countries have saying we take the commitment not to do

1060
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 19: these sorts of things, we won't put the tariffs in place.

1061
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 19: It will get worked out. But fundamentally that's a problem

1062
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 19: with the WGO. It's a consensus organization, and one or

1063
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 19: two countries can hold your hostage. And so it's going

1064
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 19: to take a real shake up because a lot of

1065
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 19: countries have becoming frustrated with the lack of progress there.

1066
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: Actually, while I've got you, I'm enjoying this, are you

1067
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: coordinating in any way the New Zealand companies who are

1068
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: looking to sue the Americans for refunds on tariffs.

1069
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 19: No, I'm certainly not coordinating, and ultimately a number of

1070
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 19: them are looking at themselves. The advice we're given to

1071
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 19: them is get some advice. But I think this is

1072
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 19: going to get sorted out by the US courts.

1073
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 7: Quite honestly.

1074
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 19: I think what will happen is a couple of other companies,

1075
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 19: including US companies, will take court action against the US

1076
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 19: and the courts will decide. And so in the meantime,

1077
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 19: our trade is still going up with them. We're still

1078
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 19: trading on In fact, we're sort of four percent increase

1079
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 19: over the even with the tariff, but back down to

1080
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 19: ten percent. I met with Jamison Greer, who's there, you know,

1081
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 19: my equivalent over there, and we talked a little bit

1082
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 19: about it. Told them some things are doing that you

1083
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 19: know they shouldn't be. For New Zealand, I e. I

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Speaker 19: think there's going to be an investigation into lamb exports

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00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 19: there Australia. New Zealand, we might see a higher tariff

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00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 19: and so on. Have made the case that they shouldn't

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Speaker 19: be doing that. So we're working through all those sorts

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Speaker 19: of things. But ultimately I reckon that there's going to

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00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 19: be a lot of litigation in the US around those

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Speaker 19: tariffs before it's paid back, and for some of our exporters,

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00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 19: they'll want to sit back and see where it goes

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Speaker 19: before they take that big.

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Speaker 7: Step to spend a lot of money on lawyers.

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Speaker 3: With the uncertainty where's that when's that investigation on lamb coming?

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Speaker 19: So I suspect they'll start it in the next month

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Speaker 19: or so. It's not a fast process. It's a little

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00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 19: bit like we've said, they did went into wood products

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00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 19: from all around the world and that came out as

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Speaker 19: the ten percent tariff. Ultimately Australia New Zealand said a

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Speaker 19: lot more lamb into that market than the US producers,

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Speaker 19: and so politically having a look at it, I think

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00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 19: they're going to see them do this a lot though.

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00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 19: So for instance, we know that that they you know,

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Speaker 19: the ten percent tariff in place now after the court

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00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 19: ruling is only there for one hundred and fifty days,

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Speaker 19: so they're looking at other ways to put that tariff

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Speaker 19: wall back up, and I think we'll see a lot

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Speaker 19: of investigations over this sort of thing many countries in

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00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 19: the world, and that they'll find another way to put

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Speaker 19: the ten or fifteen cent back on. Frustrating and annoying,

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00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 19: but you know, stepping away from that, importantly, we're selling

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Speaker 19: them more now than we're before they put tariff's up,

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00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 19: which makes it a bit hard to make the case

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Speaker 19: of the harm the tariffs are doing.

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Speaker 7: Just does mean that, you know, yours consumers are paying more.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, all right, make nice to catch up. Appreciate it.

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00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 3: Tom mclach, thank you Trade minister back from Cameroon. That

1118
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: reference to silver ferns, he was right, it's worrying. They

1119
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 3: had a whole bunk. They had one hundred and forty

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Speaker 3: containers when the war broke out in that part of

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Speaker 3: the world, and it's kind of a time for them

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: when they're back in profitability and they have been losing money,

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Speaker 3: so it's good. Most of the containers were able to

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Speaker 3: be moved through other ports, so that's the encouraging bit.

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Speaker 3: So they're agile, but it had pause production into the

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Speaker 3: Middle East until they got But what have they got?

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00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: Twelve percent of their lamb and five percent of their

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00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: beef goes up to the Gulf State. So it's not

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00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 3: what you want. But equally, as Tobas say, it's not

1130
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 3: the end of the world either. Seven forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Vice Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

1132
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: By News Talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 3: Mike Mepkins and labor. Unbelievable countries broke. They're looking to

1134
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: derail potentially our biggest FTA with India. I don't think

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00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: it's the biggestd FTA with India. It's China will be bigger.

1136
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: But I take your point. I don't know that they're

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00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: actually looking to derail it. I think the key question

1138
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: in that interview was is Damien and Chris on the

1139
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 3: same page And it wasn't a pause, have been a turmoil,

1140
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: but it was one of those ah yes, that was

1141
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: the question to ask. And of course Damien gets that.

1142
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: Chris doesn't. Chris probably doesn't even remember being at the meeting.

1143
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 3: He probably had the paper right in front of him.

1144
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 3: And if you ask him now you remember the meeting

1145
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: with the FTA in India, he goes, nat, never saw it,

1146
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 3: never got to me. I blame the Ministry of Health. Wow,

1147
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: Todd's very impressive year is very good. Todd McLay sys

1148
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 3: Warren and told us nothing substantably new about the progress

1149
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: with the FTA with India other than to wrap it

1150
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 3: on about a whole lot of procedural detail. Well, Warren,

1151
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what interview you were listening to, but

1152
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 3: what he said, the context is everything, and subtlety is

1153
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: equally a skill. Is what he said is they will

1154
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: eventually come to the party and there's nothing substantive that

1155
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: is going to ultimately hold it up. This is political

1156
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: game playing. From LinkedIn this morning. Now, don't often don't

1157
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: often quote LinkedIn. Michael writes, I had a fantastic lunch today,

1158
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 3: so he wrote this on Friday, then zed me in

1159
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: a group of like minded business professionals hosted by Mike Hosking.

1160
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 3: It was live interview with Nikola Grigg, Minister for Saint

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00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: Trade and Investment, Blah Blah Blah, Lee and Watson Business

1162
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: Canterbury and Adam Hazelwood Bailey's real Estate. The commentary from

1163
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: all the panel was very insightful, relatively positive in general,

1164
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: despite global events causing a disruption to what has been

1165
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: a very good growth phased in New Zealand over the

1166
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: past twenty four months. The discussion dove into the economic outlook,

1167
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: the business confidence and the growth expectancy in the region

1168
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: and it was such a great reminder how amazing we

1169
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: have it here in christ Church, the city. We have

1170
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 3: rebuilt the infrastructure and services, the events and world class

1171
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: facilities that are attracting people to our beautiful city. So

1172
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: good to get some good feedback on that. Let me

1173
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: come back in just a couple of moments as small

1174
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: I told you so moment, not that there was any

1175
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: genius in calling it, but when Australia started the social

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00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: media thing, one of the things I argued was it

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't work. And guess what first report out. It isn't

1178
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: tend to wait.

1179
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: The make Hosking, Breakfast with rainthrow of a sport, SV

1180
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Speaker 1: News togs eDV.

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Speaker 3: Quick question, how is it that we struggle in this

1182
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: country to get rid of the surcharge on the credit

1183
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: cards that tap and go at the dairies. We put

1184
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: the legislation ford and that fell into a thing the

1185
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: other day with New Zealand First and act in the

1186
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: National Party all on different sides, and that seems to

1187
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 3: be dead in the water, despite the fact the National

1188
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: Party is saying maybe it is, maybe it isn't. And

1189
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: yet yesterday the RB comes out and backed by the

1190
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: government and they're going to get rid of them. That end,

1191
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: the beginning, the middle, in the end. How come they

1192
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 3: can do it like that, but we seem to want

1193
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: to spend months on and wandering around arguing with each other.

1194
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: Is that a productivity question? Right to the e Safety

1195
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 3: Commissioner's first report in Australia.

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00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 12: So was it?

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00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 3: And I was reading this week and I can't remember

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00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: where it was. Was it Denmark who were the latest

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Speaker 3: one of those European countries. I mean, it's become a thing.

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: So they decided to ban kids on social media. Now

1201
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: as much of us as parents would think that's a

1202
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: fabulous idea and something should be done about it. It

1203
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: was never going to work, and it was never going

1204
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: to work for obvious reasons. One the technology doesn't really

1205
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: exist to the point of our satisfaction, and two kids

1206
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: don't want it. Like it or not, kids don't want it.

1207
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: So Australia started it, and in fact, of all the

1208
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 3: things the countries that have done something about it, I

1209
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: would personally argue we're still as usual mucking around looking

1210
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: at it, saying we're going to do something eventually, but

1211
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 3: going nowhere fast. Britain seems to be the best model

1212
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: instead of just leaping in like the French or the

1213
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 3: Danes or the Australians and any of that, and just

1214
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 3: doing it with a bit of legislation that won't work.

1215
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: The poems are at least having a controlled study with

1216
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: several hundred kids, some of whom will have no social media,

1217
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: some of whom will have some social media, some of

1218
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: whom will just carry on as normal. Then the kids

1219
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: and the parents will be talked to and they'll work

1220
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: something out from that point. Because they put it to

1221
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: a vote in the Parliament and it got voted down,

1222
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: which I thought was interesting. So anyway, back in Australia

1223
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: where they began all of this nonsense, the reports out

1224
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: yesterday are Julie Inman Grant. There are quote unquote significant

1225
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 3: concerns Julian and Grant. By the way, was the woman

1226
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: the US were after, remember the congressional hearing people they

1227
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: were wanting to. They accused her of being anti American,

1228
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: an anti democratic, and she had X number of days

1229
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: to front up to America and I don't even know

1230
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: she ever did, to be perfectly honest. But anyway, next

1231
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: time I talk to Steve, which is later on this morning,

1232
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask him that, anyway, where was I

1233
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: Social media platforms have taken some initial action in her

1234
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: initial report, but E Safety is shifting towards an enforcement

1235
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: stance which may see these tech giants and the people

1236
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 3: we're dealing with, of course, our TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, snapchap

1237
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 3: and YouTube shifting towards this enforcement which may see them

1238
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: in court basically with fines up to forty nine and

1239
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: a half million dollars for non compliance. Some initial progress

1240
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: in the first three months of the band, but they

1241
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 3: haven't kept pace. Now could we safely say then and

1242
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: now that this was always going to happen. Is social

1243
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: media in the business in countries at the bottom of

1244
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: the world remotely interested in not having kids on their platform? Answer? No,

1245
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: so that's and do you think it's ever going to

1246
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: end up in court? Possibly? Do you think anyone's ever

1247
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: going to get fined? Possibly? Do you think any of

1248
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: that's ever going to make any material difference to the

1249
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: kids growing up in Australia?

1250
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 7: No?

1251
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 3: So do you sit there with what do you say

1252
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 3: that's a success? It's a bit of legislation that does

1253
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: something that's not affected. Is that a success? It's the

1254
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: weirdest thing in the world, isn't it? Politics? Wednesday? But

1255
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: moments away Mark and Jenny next us Talk.

1256
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: Said asking the questions others won't the mic asking Breakfast

1257
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: with a Vida, retirement, communities, Life Your Way, News talks,

1258
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: head b.

1259
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Speaker 3: I am alone for.

1260
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: The Conyn drave Me rule.

1261
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 3: Searching a song for You'll never guess in a million years.

1262
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 3: Who listens?

1263
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: It's not me?

1264
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: Good song? Is singing? No way too slave, isn't it?

1265
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: Because if you want to sing along, you want to

1266
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: sing a little bit fast?

1267
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 12: I can.

1268
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Speaker 2: It's flee Well, he's not about singing, he's playing a base,

1269
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: but it's his album.

1270
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Speaker 3: Anyway, Fleas wanted to This is his debut solo album.

1271
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: When was he on this program. I want to say,

1272
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess here at twenty twenty one, but he

1273
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 3: did the What I didn't realize when I was reading

1274
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 3: his book was I got to the end of it

1275
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: and I said, where's the red hot chili peppers? Where

1276
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 3: are they? And I got to the end of the

1277
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: book and there were no red hot chili peppers. And

1278
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 3: it was only part one of his autobiography. So part

1279
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: two is coming allegedly, and we'll get him back on

1280
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: because when I had him on, I I wasn't you know,

1281
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 3: if you know the background of Flea, you could the

1282
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: interview could go any old way. So but he turned

1283
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: out to be a really interesting guy. Anyway, This is

1284
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 3: first debut solo album. In preparation, he practiced trumpet daily

1285
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 3: for two years. I can't actually hear any trumpet on

1286
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: this summer.

1287
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 17: Not on this track.

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01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: No, this is more about that cave singing Trumker.

1289
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: Nick fifty one minutes and fourteen seconds, teen tracks, Shoot

1290
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 3: for Time for Politics Wednesday, Anderson, Mark Mitchell Good morning

1291
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 3: to you. Why aren't they there? They all they are too.

1292
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: You gotta tell him, don't you. Don't you blame me,

1293
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 3: bloody Sam this morning. We're gonna have to get rid

1294
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Speaker 3: of him because hold on, I just go no, no,

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Speaker 3: you don't need to come and I can do this

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Speaker 3: and stand there and any hopeless people I'm surrounded by.

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Speaker 3: Are you surrounded by a lot of hopeless people? Ginny, No,

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Speaker 3: they're pretty good.

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Speaker 20: Actually that's pretty good. I'm not going to slag off them.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Well I am surrounded by the Laver Caucus. I'm

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Speaker 8: talking about technology, talking a bit, talking about technology, mate,

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Speaker 8: very quickly. At Royal New Zealand Police College yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing that practice thing where they do their

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Speaker 3: new trials where they push people into cells and stuff?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, eolutely in their head like they had a sensor

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Speaker 8: with his two parts, but they had a sensor on

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Speaker 8: the roof that now actually on the ceiling that actually

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Speaker 8: will will actually monitor the person's respiratory rate and heartbeat

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Speaker 8: to see if they're getting streets. And we also had

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Speaker 8: the police dogs section out. The police dogs we have,

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Speaker 8: they've got body armor and they've now got a very

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Speaker 8: powerful directional speaker that they can attach the body armor,

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Speaker 8: which means that the dog handle can actually give instructions

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Speaker 8: remotely to both the dog and an offender that's been

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Speaker 8: caught and the trial they've been trial. Yeah, and they've

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Speaker 8: tried it and they've said that what what what it's

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Speaker 8: done unintentionally? Is it like someone under the influence of

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Speaker 8: drugs or alcohol actually think the dog's talking to them

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Speaker 8: and probably become confused. They'll become compliant, they are try

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Speaker 8: to engage conversation.

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Speaker 17: Did they did someone?

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Speaker 3: They got there? So, yeah, I'm looking at the dog

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Speaker 3: and the dog saying sit down, sit down now exactly.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, affect have got your hands up. It's really effective.

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Speaker 8: It means that if it's raining, the handles can stay

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Speaker 8: in the vehicle, they don't have to get out.

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Speaker 20: We could do with that and maybe the speaker in

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Speaker 20: Parliament could have some of the gears that would like

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Speaker 20: kind of help.

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Speaker 3: Question time run it's good? Is this cutting a chorus

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Speaker 3: is used by forces all over the world.

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Speaker 8: Well, now it's used by forces all over the world,

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Speaker 8: but we're not all over the world. There's a few

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Speaker 8: forces that have used it, and now New Zealand is

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Speaker 8: sort of picking up and it's going to use it.

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Speaker 8: They had a case the other day where they had

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Speaker 8: an offender in a building wouldn't come out and they

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Speaker 8: just started playing Barry Menelo music over the speaker.

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Speaker 3: Very Trevor Maller, Yeah, exactly, exactly, technically whatever you use. Hey, Ginny,

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Speaker 3: have you seen Karen macinnulty this morning?

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Speaker 7: No, I haven't.

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Speaker 3: No one has. Apparently I've been ringing him and he

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Speaker 3: just will not answer his phone. And I mean time,

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Speaker 3: what times the labor party start? I reckon it's between

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Speaker 3: nine oh three and nine o five.

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Speaker 20: Well he'd be he'd be running procedure shortly. So maybe

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Speaker 20: that's the reason why he runs the warning. Maybe that's

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Speaker 20: happening about it.

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Speaker 8: It's the problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got along silent or something. What's what's what's the.

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Speaker 20: Problem with you asking it about as alcohol? Billy?

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Speaker 17: It's up today and I'm pretty.

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Speaker 2: Sure yes I am.

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Speaker 3: And that's the problem because I'm looking at that this morning.

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Speaker 3: I mean this potentially. Are you up with this Mark

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Speaker 3: Mcinaughty's alcohol bill?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to vote for it?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I'm supporting it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good, good good? So what's and no one

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Speaker 3: knows about this because Caro Wan answers bloody phone. So

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Speaker 3: he's got this bill and so it's a conscience vote

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Speaker 3: and pubs are going to be open over Easter the

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Speaker 3: way pubs should be open over Easter but haven't been

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Speaker 3: allowed to because of these mad Easter rules we have.

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Speaker 3: And it looks like it could go through And if

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Speaker 3: it goes through today, correct me if I'm wrong, Jinny.

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Speaker 3: But if it goes through today, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: law and the pubs will be open for resta, won't they.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I have to check the legislation,

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Speaker 20: but I'm sure he's pretty sure it would make the

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Speaker 20: change available in endic day is the other one that

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Speaker 20: it umpets as well for people for pubs.

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Speaker 3: That one on intat can take up so long to

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Speaker 3: why hasn't he or you or anybody done something like

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Speaker 3: this before. This is what we want you guys for

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Speaker 3: more drinking.

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Speaker 20: It's largely because our alcohol lords are are a bit

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Speaker 20: of a nie and so when you get in there

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Speaker 20: and do a little bit, it probably needs to fall overhaul.

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Speaker 13: But this was a change.

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Speaker 20: I think he had a local inject group that talked

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Speaker 20: about it and how they were impacted. And so this

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Speaker 20: is sort of one change that affected a bit, won't

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Speaker 20: fex all of it, but it seems like a reasonable change.

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Speaker 3: I'm voting for it, So you should well done. Brief

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Speaker 3: break more in the moment, Jinny Anderson, Mark Mitchell, don't

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Speaker 3: you can play more of that song? And thirteen Past

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Speaker 3: Day The.

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Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 21: It be.

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Speaker 3: News Talks sixteen past eight Politics Whenesday? Jinny Anderson, Mark Mitchell, Mark,

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Speaker 3: what have you seen Chris Bishop lately? What's gone? He's

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Speaker 3: got this housing thing in Auckland completely natterally cocked up.

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Speaker 3: How come he's fallen into this particular trap.

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Speaker 8: No, it's just he's got the ballots right in terms

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Speaker 8: of delivering housing what we need in Auckland, and he's

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Speaker 8: actually done a really good job of that and also

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Speaker 8: making sure that the that the character you know of

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Speaker 8: communities is maintained and kept in the housing goes where

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Speaker 8: it should go and where it makes sense. And that's

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Speaker 8: like main sort of public transport route.

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Speaker 3: Well, do you honestly believe that, I mean, you live

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Speaker 3: in Auckland, You're an Olkland MP. You're getting any feedback

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Speaker 3: on this because the problem with the numbers. No one

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Speaker 3: understands the numbers. No one understands what's getting built and

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Speaker 3: where and why and how, And that's before you get

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Speaker 3: to your volcano shafts and all that. He seems like

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Speaker 3: a guy in Wellington who doesn't get the vibe of

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Speaker 3: Auckland and is just getting up everyone's nose.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I got quite a bit of feedback on it initially,

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Speaker 8: and people want to change in my in my electorate,

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Speaker 8: and that's why we've made the changes. And now it's

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Speaker 8: up to council, but we've given them all the tools

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Speaker 8: and the ability to be able to put housing with

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Speaker 8: people on it. When we're feedback directly from.

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Speaker 3: Communities, it's like me trying to redesign Jackson Street, you know, Ginny.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like I've been to chat, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not an expert on Jackson Street, so I don't want

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Speaker 3: to mess with him.

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Speaker 20: Or he came instead of guns a blazing saying he

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Speaker 20: was an urbanist and how he's going to have this

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Speaker 20: amazing sort of plan And the problem is that all

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Speaker 20: the people who didn't want the extra intensification, the more

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Speaker 20: leafy suburbs, you know, got their way.

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Speaker 2: But that'll just.

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Speaker 20: Poor put really poor quality against housing without the infrastructure.

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Speaker 20: We saw in the interivisary day floods. What happens when

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Speaker 20: you get more concrete than no supporting infrastructure. So it

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Speaker 20: just means it'll be pushed into poor quality intensified housing.

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Speaker 20: And it doesn't do what he promised, which is to

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Speaker 20: build along those main arterial routes like.

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Speaker 17: The Eastern Busway.

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Speaker 20: That's not going to happen under this.

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Speaker 13: So you're going to have.

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Speaker 20: Pockets of livingness and pockets of more getization of buildings

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Speaker 20: built up without supporting infrastructure. So I think that's been

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Speaker 20: a complete stuffer.

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Speaker 12: It has been.

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Speaker 8: It's not it's not one hundred thousand poor housing houses

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Speaker 8: that labored never didn't even come close to delving on

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Speaker 8: its quality housing and places that people wanted. But he

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Speaker 8: before we get to the English show, it's.

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Speaker 20: Not it's not my market.

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Speaker 13: It's not that at all.

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Speaker 17: It's not quality what people.

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Speaker 8: Want to it's the first it's the first of April today,

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Speaker 8: which is yes, April Fool's Day. I just wanted to

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Speaker 8: let you guys know there's no such thing as a

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Speaker 8: dog speaker that plays very mentally well.

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Speaker 12: Done.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's genuinely impressive.

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Speaker 17: Do you know you're a really good mark?

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Speaker 3: I got to a good liar.

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Speaker 17: I'll give you that. That Mark's a really good lie.

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Speaker 3: I got a text during the ad break and they

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Speaker 3: were talking about mcinolty's thing. When they saw it this morning,

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Speaker 3: they thought it was an April Fool's joke, and I went, oh,

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Speaker 3: we don't have April Fool's jokes anymore. Thank god we've

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Speaker 3: gone past that.

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Speaker 2: And yes, I still I still buy it.

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Speaker 8: To the April Fool's joke. Mate, you got to you

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Speaker 8: got to give it a crack. So well done you guys.

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Speaker 3: You took the bait, but with alacrity. I I thought

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Speaker 3: that these were good ideas.

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Speaker 8: You started probium, you started asking me is this being

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Speaker 8: done overseas? And all that sort of stuff. I thought

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Speaker 8: he was on to it.

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Speaker 17: Did you that up yourself? Marked self?

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Speaker 20: Because it's quite impressive, as you thought, they're.

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Speaker 2: All on your own.

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Speaker 19: I'm genuinely I went to I went to the lover

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Speaker 19: caucus two weeks ago, so can you come up with

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Speaker 19: one idea?

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Speaker 8: And they came up.

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Speaker 3: With Jenny, that's just to just to wrap this convivial session.

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Speaker 7: Up.

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Speaker 3: Just remind me, Ginny and please reassure me that this

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Speaker 3: India FTA that Hipkins is writing letters about and stuff

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Speaker 3: that you will get there eventually.

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Speaker 2: This is this we hope.

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Speaker 3: So you're not.

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Speaker 21: One profound.

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Speaker 7: We're not.

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Speaker 17: We're not family against it.

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Speaker 20: But the big problem is, you know, we did the

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Speaker 20: numbers on the how much of this you know, have

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Speaker 20: a expectation that New Zealand businesses are going to invest

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Speaker 20: thirty four billion into it. That's that's a big problem

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Speaker 20: because we looked at what we need to China and

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Speaker 20: it's a fraction of that, even with Gary over a

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Speaker 20: period of quite a number of years. So that's a

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Speaker 20: massive issue that we're promising to invest thuty four billion

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Speaker 20: into Indian companies when it's just you know, a.

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Speaker 3: Big question, what's the penalty if we don't, Well, it.

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Speaker 20: Means can pull out of all those markets. So there's

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Speaker 20: a business and there's trade going on, and those businesses

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Speaker 20: relying on that trade then it doesn't have to continue.

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01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 20: They can use it as an out and so that's

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Speaker 20: not suitanty for Gyman businesses who were wanting to do.

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Speaker 3: Is that aspirational or is that like black and white

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Speaker 3: invest or why.

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Speaker 20: Dine up, Why sign up to it?

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Speaker 3: To sign up to it?

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Speaker 20: And it's aspirational, you know, like, really did this?

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Speaker 8: Labor did this on the Chinese Free Trade Agreement. They

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Speaker 8: came in the government and then they got mark. You know,

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01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 8: you opposed it when we're in government, and then you

1514
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 8: went into government, you flipped and you supported it. It's

1515
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 8: been a great free trade a group for us. I

1516
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 8: just I mean this is India. Is India is really

1517
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 8: important for US as a country. It's a it's going

1518
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 8: to be We've got to keep trading with other countries.

1519
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Speaker 3: Range speaker really was.

1520
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Speaker 8: We could record Jenny's boyce and use it instead of

1521
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Speaker 8: very man.

1522
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Speaker 2: They're probably a good quot.

1523
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Speaker 3: Anyway, guys, listen, you have a good week. I appreciate it.

1524
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Speaker 3: Jinny Anderson, Mark Mitchell, it's good to know you can

1525
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Speaker 3: still get sucked and that spectacularly ay. The thing the

1526
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Speaker 3: what did he have? The laser monitor thing? I thought

1527
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Speaker 3: that could be very real and it seemed sensible to me.

1528
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: The dog thing was a bit eclectic, but the laser

1529
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Speaker 3: thing I thought was reasonably good. Anyway, sucked and good

1530
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Speaker 3: for April Folls eight twenty two.

1531
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1550
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Speaker 3: are your best investments. So you get the exact kitchen

1551
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1552
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1555
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Speaker 20: ASKI.

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Speaker 3: Very good point on the text here morning, Mike. I

1558
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: know you've been against the social media band against it.

1559
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 3: I just want it to be effective. Are you being consistent?

1560
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: And your reason's a coaching However, I've never heard you

1561
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 3: mention the fact that setting a band in law will

1562
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 3: give parents the authority they need to police the band themselves.

1563
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 3: That's a very good point. There's a group called Smartphone

1564
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 3: Free Childhood gaining pop popularity. Well done. Similar argument with

1565
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 3: the government in terms of phone bands and schools. We've

1566
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: got to report this week that said that it wasn't

1567
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 3: actually working that well. But it does allow the government

1568
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 3: to be the bad guy, so the schools can enforce

1569
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: it if they want to. So I take your point,

1570
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 3: and it's well made, Mike. Even though they don't have

1571
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: the technology to ban young people having social media, it

1572
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: gives the parents the tool. You're right, Mike. The cell

1573
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: service sites this is petrol again, have a one hundred

1574
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 3: and fifty dollars limit on credit cards this is a

1575
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 3: constraint on supply and an example of oil company's being

1576
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 3: that smart. Well not at all. If you've got a

1577
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: system whereby there are no people, what's stopping the guy

1578
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 3: bringing along his car, his boat, his two jet skis,

1579
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 3: sixteen Jerry cans and simply filling up left, right and

1580
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 3: center with no control over that. So the one fifty

1581
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 3: and by the way, the credit card limit on humps

1582
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 3: has been standard for years and they just adjust it.

1583
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 3: I'm surprised it's only one fifty. It should at least

1584
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 3: two hundred by now, given the price of petrol. But

1585
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 3: they've had that for years, and so anyone who pays

1586
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 3: by card has always been limited anyway. And that's just

1587
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: a a bank thing, apart from anything else. Steve Price

1588
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 3: in Australia after the News which is next.

1589
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 1: Tough on power, sharp on insight, the my casking Breakfast

1590
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Speaker 1: with Ranger over Sport SV, the Ultimate Performance SUV news

1591
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Speaker 1: togs eDV.

1592
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 3: Early days, but interesting insight from QV yesterday. The cost

1593
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 3: builder platform, So this is building construction that sort of stuff.

1594
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 3: Are we seeing price rises? We get some food delivered,

1595
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 3: not a supermarket but another person who makes food anyway,

1596
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: that we got the first of our SEO charges yesterday.

1597
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, everything to bring stuff to you

1598
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 3: is going up materially, but the cost builder platform headline

1599
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 3: cost increases in March at zero point four percent, which

1600
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 3: is not the end of the world, but the cost

1601
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 3: of fuel is starting to flow through in specific areas

1602
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 3: of construction. So excavation has jumped in the month seven

1603
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 3: point eight percent, piling one point four, demolition one point three.

1604
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 3: So annualize that out you can see where the trouble's coming.

1605
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 3: The full impact would not become clear until next month.

1606
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 3: They aren't seeing widespread supply chain disruption of brucent year,

1607
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: so that's encouraging. Plaster board insulation that's up in price.

1608
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 3: Copper and steel pipework has declined in price, so that's

1609
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: why the whole thing overall is sort of flat. Overall

1610
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 3: at this point anyway, the market remained relatively balanced, which

1611
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 3: is good. But those early indicators around excavation, piling, et cetera,

1612
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 3: that they are they are the full warning for what

1613
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 3: is yet to arrive.

1614
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 14: Twenty two to nine International correspondence with endsit Eye insurance

1615
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,520
Speaker 14: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

1616
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 3: Right it was tradi theirty price.

1617
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 8: Good morning for you, Good day there on fuel.

1618
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 16: Just let me give a quick update. I've just checked

1619
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 16: on servo in a place called Albert Park, which is

1620
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 16: sort of inner Melbourne, south of the city. Ninety one

1621
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 16: ron selling this morning at two dollars thirty three point

1622
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 16: six Australian ninety five at two dollars forty nine point

1623
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 16: six Australian and premium diesel is two dollars ninety eight

1624
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 16: point six as we speak. And of course our fuel

1625
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 16: excise kicked in from the government kicked in at midnight

1626
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 16: last night.

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01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 13: But there is a very big catch and.

1628
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 3: That is it doesn't apply as yet until the new

1629
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 3: oil comes in.

1630
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 16: Correct, it doesn't apply to the fuel that's already in

1631
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 16: the ground. Look, it's going to cost the taxpayers two

1632
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 16: point five billion dollars of the jury is still out

1633
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 16: on whether it's a good political decision or not. I

1634
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 16: would say that it's something the government really felt they

1635
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 16: had to do. But it is certainly going to I

1636
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 16: mean people running around saying, well, we're going to get

1637
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 16: cheaper fuel. Yeah, but you're paying for it because the

1638
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 16: taxpayers are paying for it. It's going to last for

1639
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 16: three months three months only now on what you were

1640
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 16: just saying about long term effects on everything we do.

1641
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 16: Three months in the context of all of this is

1642
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 16: not very long. Jim Chalmers City expects motorists would have

1643
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 16: to wait a few days.

1644
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 8: Well.

1645
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 16: Fuel retailers are saying publicly that at the very earliest

1646
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 16: it will be ten days before it really takes effect.

1647
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 16: Unless you're going to a very busy inner suburban petrol station.

1648
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 16: If you're out in regional, little rural Australia, it could

1649
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 16: take up to two weeks to even kick in. And

1650
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 16: how do you keep a watch on it? I mean,

1651
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 16: the Treasurer said, I've told the a triple ce you've

1652
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 16: got to really keep an eye on this and we'll

1653
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 16: crack down hard on you if you don't apply the discount.

1654
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 16: But how are they going to check that? It's going

1655
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 16: to be almost impossible.

1656
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm actually quite proud of what we've done in this country,

1657
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: which is very little. And there's tremendous pressure on the government,

1658
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: as there is in all governments around the world on

1659
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: road use of charges and all that sort of stuff.

1660
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 3: Have you not learned the lesson out of COVID that

1661
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 3: if Albanezer goes right, you can have some free feel Firstly,

1662
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 3: the guy who's driving the Ferrari gets to fuel. Waste

1663
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: of time. Second of all, the RB looks at it

1664
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 3: and goes, oh, I see inflationary. No problem, we'll just

1665
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: increase those interest rates one more. What part of that

1666
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 3: don't Australians understand?

1667
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 16: Well, the government is obviously in the market for keeping

1668
01:18:59,240 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 16: itself popular.

1669
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 8: I mean the quotes from the Treasurer bear that out.

1670
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,839
Speaker 16: He says, quote, people shouldn't be taking motorists from mugs

1671
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 16: when it comes to passing on the discount. And so

1672
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 16: the change kicks in at midnight, people should expect to

1673
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 16: see it over the next fortnight or so. I mean,

1674
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 16: this is a populist government who wants to keep itself

1675
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 16: I mean we had the Victorian government, you know, three

1676
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,879
Speaker 16: days ago suddenly go okay, free public transport for everybody.

1677
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 16: Well it's not free public transport for everybody at all.

1678
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 16: It's going to cost seventy million, it's going to last

1679
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 16: for a month. And of course what do you see

1680
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 16: yesterday every car park at a train station, overflowing cars

1681
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 16: and people catching free public transport. So this idea that

1682
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 16: everything's going to be free and the luxe, and government

1683
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 16: is quite right to hold firm on that you shouldn't

1684
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 16: do it. You should actually do what's best in the

1685
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 16: best interest of the budget.

1686
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 12: Of the country.

1687
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 3: I had a story the other day that came out

1688
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 3: of is it Scone and the local campground there was

1689
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 3: saying everyone's canceling the rest of holidays, no and driving.

1690
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 3: Is that real? Do you think of people giving up

1691
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 3: on going away driving if they can't afford it or

1692
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 3: don't think there's going to be any pictrol in rural Australia.

1693
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 16: Yeah, Well, as you know, Australia is such a big country.

1694
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 16: If you're going to go, if you've got a full

1695
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 16: days to break and people obviously tach extra days on

1696
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 16: and school holidays start at the same time, so people

1697
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 16: are going to travel big distances. A lot of people

1698
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 16: are going, well, I'm just not going to go. I mean,

1699
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 16: it's not so much even the cost, it's whether you know,

1700
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 16: the reliability of whether you're able to actually get diesel.

1701
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 16: And most of the big SUVSA there trunnling around Australia

1702
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 16: are powered by diesel, so there are people canceling. Although

1703
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 16: an interesting story today one of the car rental sites

1704
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 16: that where they rent electric vehicles and electric vehicles and hybrids,

1705
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 16: so that they've gone up by three hundred and eighty

1706
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 16: eight percent for bookings in the last two days. People

1707
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 16: being very smart. I would never have thought to do that,

1708
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 16: but they're ringing up a rental car company and saying,

1709
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 16: rent me an electric vehicle so I can go east

1710
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 16: to holiday. So people are smarter than what people think.

1711
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 16: So they're catching on and doing that.

1712
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 3: Daars He Freeman this wall. Have you ever heard of wool?

1713
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 16: No one has. These are very tiny remote communities up

1714
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 16: on the River Murray, northwest northeast of Melbourne. It's the

1715
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 16: back of the Australian Alps. I mean, anyone who's ever

1716
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 16: come skiing, I don't know why you'd do that if

1717
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 16: you're a key where you wouldn't come eat to go skiing.

1718
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 16: But Mount Baller and Mount hoppin places like that. It's

1719
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 16: right up in the high country. As He Freeman of

1720
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 16: course shot did two police officers. He was cornered at

1721
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 16: a caravan that he was living in a place called

1722
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 16: Paul Punker and disappeared. Now we all thought he was dead.

1723
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 16: He went on the run for two hundred and sixteen

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Speaker 16: days now. He was living in a shipping container. If

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Speaker 16: you see pictures of where he was living, it was

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01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 16: basically a hovel. There was upturned boats and wreck trucks

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01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 16: and all sorts of things around him. They now found

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Speaker 16: two phones that were there that might give them an

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01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 16: idea of someone had to be helping him, because how

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Speaker 16: else could he get one hundred and fifty kilometers away

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 16: from where he shot those police officers to where he

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Speaker 16: ended up staying. We learned today that he'd only been

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Speaker 16: there for a short period of time. The way they

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Speaker 16: intercepted a car. They thought that they tracked this car,

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Speaker 16: and they then got a tip off from someone. There's

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Speaker 16: a million dollar reward for getting Freeman captured. He came

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Speaker 16: out of the shipping container he's living in, had a

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Speaker 16: douner around his shoulders, dropped that, and had a police

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Speaker 16: firearm in his hand that he'd taken from one of

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Speaker 16: the dead police officers, and the Special Operations Group told

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Speaker 16: him to drop the weapon. He refused to do so.

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Speaker 16: He was shot twenty times by Special Operations.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised I was watching Mike Bush, of course, how

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01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 3: Mike Bush in New Zealander was running victory. He was

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Speaker 3: doing the press. Ye hey, by the way, just quickly.

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Speaker 3: I forgot to mention this the other day, This Rio

1747
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 3: tinto thing, This government, yet another government bailout. So Rio

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01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 3: tinto Queensland aluminium smelter they liked so many other people

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01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 3: seem to run of trouble and the government comes to

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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 3: bail them out. Is that politically popular because of the jobs?

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Speaker 3: And where does it end?

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Speaker 16: Well, it doesn't end with this government because you know,

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01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 16: you've got a budget coming up in May, with Jim

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01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 16: Charmers having to stay popular, and the bailouts of companies

1755
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 16: that are in strife, particularly when it comes to energy

1756
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 16: hungry companies like those that make aluminium, and they are

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 16: the hungriest of all. The government is on the one hand,

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01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 16: you know, forcing us to spend trillions of dollars on

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01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 16: green energy, on the other hand bailing out companies that

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01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 16: are going to fall over if they don't have enough power.

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Speaker 16: So it makes no sense. I mean, Jim Charmers is

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01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 16: at the moment very unpopular about the way he's running

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Speaker 16: the finance of the country.

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Speaker 3: No kidding, You have a good one, mate, We'll catch

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01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 3: up next week. Appreciate it. Steve Price out of Australia

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Speaker 3: eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

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Speaker 3: See this's the difference between New Zealand and Australia at

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01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 3: the moment. And I'll come back to the subsidies or

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01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 3: the help around petrol and the and stuff. But this

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01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 3: Rio tinto thing in Queensland. Of course, that's two billion

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01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: dollars worth, and that's a deal between Elbanisi and the

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 3: Queensland government, so Fed and State each will put in

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 3: a billion each over ten years. The Boyne aluminium smelter

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Speaker 3: in Gladstone. There's a thousand jobs there and there's two

1777
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 3: thousand indirect jobs. So the moment they go wrong, everyone

1778
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 3: goes on juns. We're better do something about that. In return,

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01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 3: Rio is going to underwrite around seven billion dollars of

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Speaker 3: investment and clean energy for the energy grid in Queensland.

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Speaker 3: Then you got Glen Call. You remember Glenn Call the

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01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: copper smelter. There was last October near Stars Smelters and

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01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 3: Port Pirie and Hobart last August. And of course it

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01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 3: all began at Wayala. In fact, the Wayale thing. If

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01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 3: I go back, it goes back to February, which would

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01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: have been before the election, I think. Anyway, so you

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01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 3: get yourself in trouble, the government comes to your rescue, which,

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01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 3: of course you could argue, why aren't we doing the

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01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 3: same thing in New Zealand. So when it comes to

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Speaker 3: Watties or Hines or whatever, a couple hundred jobs and

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 3: the bayon, No, don't worry. The government will bail you

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01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 3: out and we just don't operate that way, which I

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01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 3: would argue, as hard as it is, is the right

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01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: way to go about business, which yesterday Nicola willis yet

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01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 3: again who I feel tremendously sorry for at the moment,

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01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 3: because I mean, who wouldn't want to be the finance

1797
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 3: minister and goes road user charges? Of course they're coming off,

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01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 3: no problem at all. Do you want some subsidies on petrol?

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01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 7: You bet?

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Speaker 3: I mean these times are tight. So all she's left

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01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 3: saying is you know, I hear you. I get it.

1802
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: There's no argument going on. People are going, look, this

1803
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 3: is hard work and the care workers will get something

1804
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 3: and that's good and they deserve it, and the sooner

1805
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 3: that comes the better. I don't know why it's so

1806
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 3: difficult to announce it. But they are getting there, I'm assuming.

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01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 3: But in general, could they be doing more?

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 12: Yes?

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01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: Can we afford to do more?

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 21: No?

1811
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: Is it wise to do more?

1812
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 12: No?

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01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 3: Is it going to buy us in the bum if

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01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 3: we did more?

1815
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 12: Yes?

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01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 3: But in politics it's always easy to pull the trigger.

1817
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 3: So I admire her for having to basically stand up

1818
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 3: and go I hear you, I get it, I agree

1819
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 3: with you. I'm sorry. But adults in the room, no

1820
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: can do. And you got to admire her for that.

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Speaker 3: Nine away from nine on.

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Speaker 3: ABC on Australia they think they might take seven days

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Speaker 3: off by way of a strike that did the one

1848
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 3: day or the other day. The problem with the media,

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01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 3: of course is they're so full of this self importance

1850
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 3: and it's not like there is another media in Australia.

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 3: So if the ABC don't turn up one day or

1852
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 3: for seven days, guess what people just wander off to

1853
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 3: the people that didn't turn up it's not hart. Meantime,

1854
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 3: Also in media in Australia yesterday Jackie Oh. This is

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: the Kyle and Jackie Oh's story. Massive contract. They're being sacked.

1856
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 3: They're arguing they shouldn't have been sacked. We didn't know

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01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: where she was until yesterday. Kyle sued the other day.

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01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 3: So he wants eighty eight million, she only wants AD two.

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01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 3: I don't know where the differential comes from because they

1860
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 3: were both on the same money. But nevertheless, she came

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01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 3: in yesterday said she was suing as well. She's got

1862
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 3: problems because she claims she couldn't work with him anymore,

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01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 3: and that point they ripped up a contract. So that's

1864
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 3: a bit on her, whereas Kyle seems anyway, the point

1865
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 3: being the company doesn't have the money if they lost,

1866
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 3: which makes it even more interesting. So lawyers at dawn

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01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 3: five minutes away from.

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01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: Nine trending now with chemist Wells scores super Savings in

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01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: April catalog out now.

1870
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: More trouble for Trump not on the ball this time

1871
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 3: at the Kennedy Center and the changes he wants to make.

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01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 21: You are some of those columns on the outside that

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01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 21: were painted a fake gold. Now we painted him a

1874
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 21: beautiful white collar, beautiful cream white is beautiful. Everyone said,

1875
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 21: so much more beautiful now instead of a cheap You

1876
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 21: can't imitate gold. See, I'm a gold person. It's all

1877
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 21: real stuff. You can't imitate it. Someday they'll discover a

1878
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 21: paint that will looked like gold, and the guy's going

1879
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 21: to be the richest.

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01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 3: Man in the world.

1881
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: But you can't imitate real gold.

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01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 21: Just as a it's twenty four carrot, which is what

1883
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:47,959
Speaker 21: this building deserves.

1884
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, that's the Kennedy Center. Meantime, he's got trouble on

1885
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: the ballroom. Constructions now halted because Judge Richard Leon who's

1886
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: Republican appointed, Apart from anything said, the proper procedures weren't followed.

1887
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,919
Speaker 3: No statue comes close to giving the president the authority

1888
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 3: he claims to have. The President of the United States

1889
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 3: as the steward of the White House for future generations

1890
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 3: of first families. He is not, however, the owner unlessen

1891
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 3: until Congress blesses this project through statutory authorization, construction has

1892
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 3: to stop, at which point I don't have time to

1893
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 3: do it. Trump's hit social media, the truth social and

1894
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 3: he's gone, you know, And I sued them, and they

1895
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 3: sued me, and this is not right, and what about

1896
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 3: the National Trust and the historic preservation the radical left

1897
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 3: group or they could have sued Gavin new scum railroad

1898
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 3: to know where white House ballroom Trump sent to Kennedy

1899
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 3: disasters doesn't make sense, does at President John dan So,

1900
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 3: his war's not going overly well, his ballroom's not going

1901
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 3: overly well, his polls aren't going overly well. His economy's

1902
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 3: not going overly well. There's a lot of stuff that's

1903
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 3: starting to build up, and that's probably why you're seeing

1904
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 3: him lash out quite a bit at the moment. Back

1905
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning from six Happy Days.

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Speaker 2: to news talks.

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