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Speaker 3: Hello there, you're to good afternoon, welcome in. Great to

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Speaker 3: have you with us for the Saturday edition of Weekend

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Speaker 3: Sport on News Talk said Beat. October twelve, Happy birthday,

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Speaker 3: Sam Whitelock, Happy birthday, Conrad Smith. Happy birthday, Trevor Chapel.

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Speaker 4: It looks to me as if they're going to go

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Speaker 4: under arm off the last ball followed along the ground and.

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Speaker 3: Be sure that it has not been hip for six.

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Speaker 4: The umpires have been told, the batsmen have been told,

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Speaker 3: One of the great all time understatements from Bill Laurie.

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Speaker 3: I hope you have a great day, Trevor Chapel. I'm

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Speaker 3: Jason Fine, show producer Andy McDonald. We're here talking sport

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Speaker 3: until three. The thirty seventh America's Cup is almost upon

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Speaker 3: US Emirates Team New Zealand against Ineos Britannia the first

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Speaker 3: two races early tomorrow morning. New Zealand time first to seven,

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Speaker 3: so best of thirteen Emirates Team New Zealand coach Ray

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Speaker 3: Davies standing by the chatter was shortly going to hear

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Speaker 3: from the helmsman of Ineos Britannia as well, Sir Ben Ainsley,

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Speaker 3: And I'm very very keen, very keen to gauge your

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Speaker 3: interest levels. Have they been heightened now that we are

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Speaker 3: on the eve of the actual America's Cup match? Are

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Speaker 3: to follow along? Can do read your pulse on this?

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Speaker 3: Other matters around today? All why it's Captain Chris Woods

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Speaker 3: World Cup qualifying yesterday. How do we make international rugby

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Speaker 3: league more relevant? It's been a hot topic over the

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Speaker 3: last week or so. New Zealand Rugby League CEO Greg

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Speaker 3: Peters on that the great race Badhurst this weekend. Three

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Speaker 3: later on today, motor racing journalist Simon Chapman on this

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Speaker 3: Rafa Nadal has brought the curtain down on one of

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Speaker 3: the great tennis careers. Will reflect on that with Graham

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Speaker 3: Agars Adam Peacock, a long and his regular slot Round

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Speaker 3: one forty five with a wrap of Australian sporting matters,

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Speaker 3: including the lawsuit taken by the Melbourne Rebels against Rugby Australia.

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Speaker 3: Has this got legs at all? Live Sport? While we're

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Speaker 3: on it after two o'clock. Heartland Championship semi finals as well.

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Speaker 1: Day breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails.

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Speaker 3: The thirty seventh America's Cup matches almost upon us. Emirates

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Speaker 3: Team New Zealand have their challenger.

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Speaker 5: Britannia are on course to make the match and they

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Speaker 5: will attempt to achieve what no other British challenger has

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Speaker 5: seventy three years have heard the wake might soon be

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Speaker 6: Britannia rules the waves of the Mediterranean.

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Speaker 3: What a sevenfold victory they win? The Louis Wit talk

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Speaker 3: come and we'll meet em New Zealand. Indeed they will,

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Speaker 3: and he asks. Britannia have earned the right to challenge

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Speaker 3: Emirates Team New Zealand in a best of thirteen race

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Speaker 3: They become the first British boat to contest the Cup's

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Speaker 3: time nineteen sixty four. The first two races early Tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 3: with seven race wins, they will win the America's Cup.

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Speaker 3: Hugely experienced and successful sailor and now Emirates Team New

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Speaker 3: can we start with your challenger inny Os Britannia it is?

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Speaker 3: Did you expect them to come through and be your challenger?

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Speaker 7: Earlier on in the regi they were struggling a bit,

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Speaker 7: they were sailing really really well and pretty much blew

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Speaker 7: in the America's Cup. We know all of their players

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Speaker 7: They are around the America's Cup and the sport and

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Speaker 7: being in the final, it's going to be absolutely huge.

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Speaker 7: It's going to be a proper battle.

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Speaker 3: What did you learn about your boat, Tato during racing

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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, we learn we learnt that we were fast,

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Speaker 7: rolls and sales et cetera, et cetera. So we've got quicker,

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Speaker 7: they've got quicker. We don't really know until we actually

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Speaker 7: and it could be different in different conditions.

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Speaker 3: How have you managed right to replicate match racing conditions

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, we can simulate races. We do that ashore

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Speaker 7: You know, what we've seen with these boats is as

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Speaker 7: spent thousands of hours literally, you know, just understanding the

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Speaker 7: So that's the challenge with these boats, high risk, high reward.

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Speaker 3: How do you balance that right? How do you balance

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's actually it's a great question. It's really hard

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Speaker 7: it's really you know, you can't afford to you can't

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Speaker 7: So it's going to be fascinating to see what sort

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you've talked a bit about the start there and

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Speaker 7: Well, the race isn't one and lost in the start.

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Speaker 7: And you know, we've spent all of these years trying

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Speaker 7: But you know that can all be taken away by

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Speaker 7: Well, you have to keep it tight, you have to

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Speaker 7: not take risks. You just have to keep the pressure

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Speaker 7: You know you're probably only going to get the chance

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Speaker 7: to the end, and these boats, you know, it's really relentless.

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Speaker 7: How important boat handling.

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Speaker 3: Is the nature of the structure of the event. Of course,

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Speaker 3: match race hardened. They've been racing all of this time.

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Speaker 3: They've been making improvements as they race. How do you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, we know we have our ways of being

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Speaker 7: but that's you know, we do put ourselves under pressure,

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Speaker 7: and obviously we analyze what they've been doing. We we

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Speaker 7: to think, you know, we've learned a lot since our

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 10: Look, I I was the one one of the guys

432
00:22:50,267 --> 00:22:53,027
Speaker 10: that was going to protest and when adults talk it overseas,

433
00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:55,187
Speaker 10: But now that it's started and I can't help it.

434
00:22:55,947 --> 00:22:58,107
Speaker 10: Mob got up and watched most of it live so far.

435
00:22:58,707 --> 00:23:01,227
Speaker 10: That's that's that's just amazing. The boats are just just

436
00:23:01,427 --> 00:23:02,627
Speaker 10: incredible things, aren't they.

437
00:23:03,027 --> 00:23:05,587
Speaker 3: Oh look the technology, the technology behind it is just

438
00:23:05,587 --> 00:23:07,867
Speaker 3: just other world the stuff. I've seen a little bit

439
00:23:07,907 --> 00:23:10,787
Speaker 3: of footage of what goes on behind you know, behind

440
00:23:10,787 --> 00:23:12,707
Speaker 3: the scenes if you like. But no, it's a it's

441
00:23:13,107 --> 00:23:14,707
Speaker 3: you know, if you just take it for what it is, great,

442
00:23:14,747 --> 00:23:17,987
Speaker 3: you're right. The pure you know skill and and you

443
00:23:18,027 --> 00:23:20,627
Speaker 3: know the way they said these things isn't astonishing.

444
00:23:20,627 --> 00:23:20,867
Speaker 4: Man.

445
00:23:21,747 --> 00:23:24,027
Speaker 10: It's a little bit different than the salgyp. They're sort

446
00:23:24,067 --> 00:23:27,067
Speaker 10: of old existing technology and they're all the same Now

447
00:23:27,267 --> 00:23:28,987
Speaker 10: the racing is pretty cool with all the boats on

448
00:23:29,067 --> 00:23:32,147
Speaker 10: them at one time, but this is about three years

449
00:23:32,187 --> 00:23:36,187
Speaker 10: of just technology and the sailors sort of getting together

450
00:23:36,307 --> 00:23:38,627
Speaker 10: and just getting these boats faster and faster and just

451
00:23:38,827 --> 00:23:42,027
Speaker 10: culminating in that three year sort of cycle, and which

452
00:23:42,107 --> 00:23:46,187
Speaker 10: makes it's such a massive MESSI of race, isn't it.

453
00:23:46,307 --> 00:23:49,627
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you've been You've been getting up to watch

454
00:23:49,707 --> 00:23:51,907
Speaker 3: even before Team New Zealand are in it. So you've

455
00:23:51,947 --> 00:23:55,147
Speaker 3: just you've just you've just fully its plugged in. Man,

456
00:23:55,187 --> 00:23:57,267
Speaker 3: you're just plugged the whole thing.

457
00:23:58,387 --> 00:23:59,827
Speaker 10: I'm a bit of an asomnac, so I so on

458
00:23:59,907 --> 00:24:01,987
Speaker 10: me wake up about one or two o'clock anyway, So

459
00:24:01,987 --> 00:24:03,747
Speaker 10: even if I was a little bit late waking up,

460
00:24:03,787 --> 00:24:05,707
Speaker 10: you sort of you start on the Yurich show and

461
00:24:05,747 --> 00:24:07,707
Speaker 10: you can catch up and you miss out all the

462
00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:09,347
Speaker 10: garbage and the photo showing and all that sort of

463
00:24:09,387 --> 00:24:10,627
Speaker 10: stuff and just get into the racing.

464
00:24:11,587 --> 00:24:11,747
Speaker 7: Yeah.

465
00:24:11,787 --> 00:24:13,507
Speaker 10: I've watched most of it, and I'm at the start.

466
00:24:13,507 --> 00:24:15,907
Speaker 10: The Britons look like they had another dog, So I'm

467
00:24:15,947 --> 00:24:18,827
Speaker 10: amazed they sort of put themselves up and just slowly

468
00:24:18,947 --> 00:24:22,267
Speaker 10: then getting better and faster and making this mistakes and

469
00:24:22,387 --> 00:24:25,347
Speaker 10: here they are do you want a real, real quick

470
00:24:25,427 --> 00:24:27,987
Speaker 10: Raymond's version of why these folks once they fall off

471
00:24:27,987 --> 00:24:29,507
Speaker 10: the foils, so they stay off their foils?

472
00:24:29,587 --> 00:24:31,627
Speaker 3: Absolutely please, yes, yes.

473
00:24:31,827 --> 00:24:35,187
Speaker 10: So the holes create a lot of drag in the water,

474
00:24:35,387 --> 00:24:37,747
Speaker 10: so they need a certain amount of wind or horse

475
00:24:37,787 --> 00:24:41,107
Speaker 10: power to get up on those foils. Now I think

476
00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:44,787
Speaker 10: it's about fifteen eighteen knots for momentum when they start

477
00:24:44,827 --> 00:24:48,027
Speaker 10: to put themselves up. Now, the sails aren't like a

478
00:24:48,067 --> 00:24:50,667
Speaker 10: traditional cell. They're more like a wing. You've probably heard

479
00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:54,387
Speaker 10: that before, and they need ear flowing over them to work.

480
00:24:54,907 --> 00:24:57,747
Speaker 10: So the faster they go, so they say they're doing

481
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Speaker 10: twenty knots and there's a five knot win, there's actually

482
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Speaker 10: twenty five knots roughly of wind going over the sail.

483
00:25:03,587 --> 00:25:07,587
Speaker 10: Hence like they can stay up overcome that drag, and

484
00:25:07,627 --> 00:25:10,987
Speaker 10: the foils create very little drag. When they're only about

485
00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:12,427
Speaker 10: five or six nuts to win, they actually get the

486
00:25:12,467 --> 00:25:14,427
Speaker 10: teams to get them up on the floor, towing them

487
00:25:14,427 --> 00:25:16,947
Speaker 10: along by the power boats. But then when they're up

488
00:25:16,987 --> 00:25:19,987
Speaker 10: and they're doing twenty knots, they're in theoretically in a

489
00:25:20,027 --> 00:25:22,787
Speaker 10: twenty five knot wind kent stay.

490
00:25:22,627 --> 00:25:27,347
Speaker 3: Up, gotcha? It makes perfect sense. It's getting getting up

491
00:25:27,387 --> 00:25:30,267
Speaker 3: and clearly not allowed all power boat out there during

492
00:25:30,267 --> 00:25:31,987
Speaker 3: a race to get you up on the foils. So

493
00:25:32,067 --> 00:25:34,027
Speaker 3: getting up is getting up on them as the thing.

494
00:25:34,067 --> 00:25:36,827
Speaker 3: Once you're up, you're okay. So that's I guess why

495
00:25:36,707 --> 00:25:39,467
Speaker 3: they try to minimize eras to fall off. Once you

496
00:25:39,507 --> 00:25:42,747
Speaker 3: fall off, that's not good news for you the whole.

497
00:25:42,587 --> 00:25:44,547
Speaker 10: The holdest drags in the water. You haven't got enough

498
00:25:44,547 --> 00:25:46,187
Speaker 10: horsefrow to get back out in your toast, you know.

499
00:25:46,267 --> 00:25:49,187
Speaker 10: So I watched the races were longer. As one of

500
00:25:49,187 --> 00:25:51,187
Speaker 10: the things. They seem to get over really quickly, so

501
00:25:51,227 --> 00:25:53,507
Speaker 10: there's no real time to remember the old days. I know,

502
00:25:53,627 --> 00:25:57,627
Speaker 10: race should take two or three hours. Yeah, just just

503
00:25:57,827 --> 00:26:00,707
Speaker 10: they seem to be over just so quick. Now that's

504
00:26:00,747 --> 00:26:02,067
Speaker 10: one thing I miss a little bit.

505
00:26:02,667 --> 00:26:05,427
Speaker 3: It's I think that agreed. What that is is I

506
00:26:05,427 --> 00:26:07,707
Speaker 3: think our say, not you and I, but I think

507
00:26:08,107 --> 00:26:12,587
Speaker 3: you know, uh, humanity's need for instant gratification. Everything seems

508
00:26:12,587 --> 00:26:15,027
Speaker 3: to be shorter now. You know, you look at salj

509
00:26:15,587 --> 00:26:18,667
Speaker 3: how popular sal GP has become. I think because it's

510
00:26:18,947 --> 00:26:21,867
Speaker 3: snackable if we want to use that phrase, it's you know,

511
00:26:21,907 --> 00:26:24,587
Speaker 3: but it's a it's a drag race. Yeah, I was

512
00:26:24,707 --> 00:26:26,107
Speaker 3: the same as you Levic in ninety five in the

513
00:26:26,187 --> 00:26:28,947
Speaker 3: year that races took hours and I didn't mind it. Actually,

514
00:26:29,827 --> 00:26:30,307
Speaker 3: there are.

515
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Speaker 10: Twenty guys sitting there on T shirts, just sort of

516
00:26:32,547 --> 00:26:34,387
Speaker 10: hanging around, sort of waiting for the next sail.

517
00:26:34,307 --> 00:26:34,947
Speaker 15: Change to happen.

518
00:26:36,267 --> 00:26:36,667
Speaker 4: It's true.

519
00:26:36,707 --> 00:26:39,747
Speaker 3: So just on any Ospritannia then, and the improvements that

520
00:26:39,787 --> 00:26:42,027
Speaker 3: you've seen from them, have they improved enough? Do you think?

521
00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:44,787
Speaker 3: And we haven't seen ten tem New Zealand really sail

522
00:26:44,907 --> 00:26:48,547
Speaker 3: not competitively anyway, do you are we? Are we favorite?

523
00:26:48,587 --> 00:26:49,347
Speaker 3: Are they favorite?

524
00:26:50,907 --> 00:26:54,467
Speaker 10: I think the boats are probably pretty even. I think

525
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Speaker 10: I think so. I think it just comes down to

526
00:26:57,267 --> 00:27:02,107
Speaker 10: those those little moments. One thing people don't realize what

527
00:27:02,147 --> 00:27:04,827
Speaker 10: Spirling he's an engineer in his own right. He's a

528
00:27:04,867 --> 00:27:09,547
Speaker 10: really technology minded so he works for the technical guys

529
00:27:09,947 --> 00:27:12,787
Speaker 10: to sort of bridge the gap between the nerds on

530
00:27:12,787 --> 00:27:15,347
Speaker 10: on the shore and the sailors on the on the water.

531
00:27:15,827 --> 00:27:18,507
Speaker 10: Is really good at that, so he explains the control

532
00:27:18,547 --> 00:27:21,147
Speaker 10: systems and stuff that he would like and then they

533
00:27:21,187 --> 00:27:26,227
Speaker 10: sort of do it versus the technical guys bring coming

534
00:27:26,307 --> 00:27:28,147
Speaker 10: up with the control systems and the sailors are going

535
00:27:28,187 --> 00:27:30,587
Speaker 10: to make do does that make sense? So so the

536
00:27:30,707 --> 00:27:33,107
Speaker 10: boat handling and things like that, Billy has had a

537
00:27:33,107 --> 00:27:36,627
Speaker 10: lot of input into that, and yeah, that's that's that's

538
00:27:36,667 --> 00:27:38,467
Speaker 10: an advantage for us. I really believe that.

539
00:27:38,987 --> 00:27:41,987
Speaker 3: I thought you should be the weekend sport race sailing analyst.

540
00:27:42,027 --> 00:27:43,227
Speaker 3: Greg loving it.

541
00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:45,787
Speaker 10: Last time I saw you, by the way, it was

542
00:27:45,987 --> 00:27:48,387
Speaker 10: one of your great runs for twa and I was

543
00:27:48,427 --> 00:27:51,147
Speaker 10: the goalie of north Wellington and landed me your big lamp.

544
00:27:55,387 --> 00:27:57,387
Speaker 16: I remember that.

545
00:27:57,507 --> 00:28:00,867
Speaker 10: Well, you came up for a corning of mister head.

546
00:28:00,987 --> 00:28:01,667
Speaker 4: I missed the ball.

547
00:28:01,747 --> 00:28:02,387
Speaker 17: You lead it on me.

548
00:28:02,547 --> 00:28:03,307
Speaker 10: I was stuck.

549
00:28:05,867 --> 00:28:08,147
Speaker 3: O good to catch up. Good to catch up, Greg,

550
00:28:08,147 --> 00:28:08,827
Speaker 3: thanks for calling him.

551
00:28:08,867 --> 00:28:08,947
Speaker 17: Man.

552
00:28:08,987 --> 00:28:12,787
Speaker 3: We'll see you soon, all right, see you mate? Bye bye.

553
00:28:13,147 --> 00:28:15,307
Speaker 3: Oh gee. Let's say that's a blast in the past

554
00:28:15,347 --> 00:28:17,867
Speaker 3: that probably Greg and I both want to forget. I

555
00:28:18,027 --> 00:28:20,627
Speaker 3: want to be engaged in this, I do. I want

556
00:28:20,627 --> 00:28:23,147
Speaker 3: to be engaged. I think back to the America's Cup

557
00:28:23,187 --> 00:28:26,307
Speaker 3: regettas of the past. Nineteen ninety five, I was engaged.

558
00:28:25,947 --> 00:28:29,467
Speaker 18: To America's Cup is the new Sealants.

559
00:28:29,027 --> 00:28:31,467
Speaker 3: Cup, and in two thousand when we defended it.

560
00:28:32,147 --> 00:28:35,747
Speaker 16: Americas Cup, your Sealants Cup.

561
00:28:35,787 --> 00:28:37,867
Speaker 3: Not a great PJ Montgomery but then even in two

562
00:28:37,947 --> 00:28:39,507
Speaker 3: thousand and three when we lost it.

563
00:28:39,467 --> 00:28:42,547
Speaker 16: In its first challenge for the America's Cup Live by

564
00:28:42,587 --> 00:28:46,267
Speaker 16: a Nisto Berta Rallies and Skipper by Russell Coots wins

565
00:28:46,307 --> 00:28:50,467
Speaker 16: America's Cup to Castle three pied In defender kim Uzi

566
00:28:50,587 --> 00:28:51,667
Speaker 16: and Fils.

567
00:28:52,307 --> 00:28:54,147
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was Russell Coots taking it away from

568
00:28:54,227 --> 00:28:58,587
Speaker 3: US as part of a lingey twenty thirteen. Twenty thirteen,

569
00:28:58,787 --> 00:29:02,307
Speaker 3: my goodness fully invested. We were eight one ahead. In

570
00:29:02,307 --> 00:29:03,627
Speaker 3: case you'd forgotten.

571
00:29:03,307 --> 00:29:08,227
Speaker 19: The improbable, the incredible comeback is about to make history.

572
00:29:08,587 --> 00:29:13,387
Speaker 19: Oracle Team USA nine, Elberts Team New Zealand eight. The

573
00:29:13,507 --> 00:29:18,387
Speaker 19: America's Cup is still Oracle Team says cup.

574
00:29:18,507 --> 00:29:21,227
Speaker 3: That was just astonishing sport, wasn't it. Jimmy Spettel from

575
00:29:21,267 --> 00:29:23,227
Speaker 3: eight to one down winning at nine to eight. But

576
00:29:23,267 --> 00:29:25,467
Speaker 3: then four years later Bermuda the.

577
00:29:25,467 --> 00:29:29,867
Speaker 20: New Zealanders paddling into the history books the.

578
00:29:29,867 --> 00:29:34,187
Speaker 16: America's Cup, Russell's from the USA by Berlin's men in blood.

579
00:29:35,267 --> 00:29:38,187
Speaker 3: The trophy belongs to New Zealand. And then they brought

580
00:29:38,187 --> 00:29:41,027
Speaker 3: it home and defended it at home in twenty twenty one.

581
00:29:41,307 --> 00:29:42,467
Speaker 16: It's history.

582
00:29:42,707 --> 00:29:46,027
Speaker 18: I'm the waters of the whole wrecky golf team New Zealand,

583
00:29:46,027 --> 00:29:48,707
Speaker 18: the most successful team in the one hundred and seventy

584
00:29:48,747 --> 00:29:54,107
Speaker 18: year history of the America's Cup, successfully defends International Sports

585
00:29:54,307 --> 00:30:00,227
Speaker 18: Older's praise. Again, the America's Cup remains New Zealand's Cup.

586
00:30:00,707 --> 00:30:04,667
Speaker 3: So some of those moments, you know, they they engaged us,

587
00:30:04,707 --> 00:30:06,227
Speaker 3: and yes, I'll take it right back to the star

588
00:30:06,387 --> 00:30:08,227
Speaker 3: of whatever saying at the start, it is different. It's

589
00:30:08,267 --> 00:30:10,307
Speaker 3: not here. If it was on the Hodaki Golf again,

590
00:30:10,387 --> 00:30:13,627
Speaker 3: of course there'd be thousands down there, thousands and thousands

591
00:30:13,667 --> 00:30:16,347
Speaker 3: and thousands of people over the next couple of weeks.

592
00:30:16,827 --> 00:30:19,387
Speaker 3: It's offshore, it's at a difficult time to watch. A

593
00:30:19,387 --> 00:30:21,987
Speaker 3: lot of people have texted it to say that there's

594
00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:23,747
Speaker 3: a full replay at seven in the morning. That's a

595
00:30:23,827 --> 00:30:26,307
Speaker 3: very palatable time to be watching things. So if you

596
00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:27,867
Speaker 3: don't want to get up at one o'clock in the morning,

597
00:30:28,147 --> 00:30:29,987
Speaker 3: and you and you're not like me, and you can

598
00:30:30,027 --> 00:30:33,467
Speaker 3: watch stuff delayed, get up, you avoid the date, look

599
00:30:33,507 --> 00:30:35,667
Speaker 3: on your phone or or listen to the radio or

600
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:39,907
Speaker 3: do anything. You basically watch it as if it's live. Cool,

601
00:30:40,027 --> 00:30:43,747
Speaker 3: there's an option for you. But yeah, I really want

602
00:30:43,747 --> 00:30:46,427
Speaker 3: to be engaged with it. Does anybody still have red sox?

603
00:30:47,627 --> 00:30:50,707
Speaker 3: Remember red sox? Is it the ninety five or ninety nine?

604
00:30:51,307 --> 00:30:56,467
Speaker 3: Certainly Sir Peter Blake's legacy or one off the parts

605
00:30:56,467 --> 00:30:59,387
Speaker 3: of his legacy, the red Sox. You know it's still

606
00:30:59,387 --> 00:31:01,987
Speaker 3: got those. You're getting up and getting their red sox

607
00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:04,987
Speaker 3: on twelve forty spear line to jump aboard if you'd like.

608
00:31:05,147 --> 00:31:07,747
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Talking America's Cup on

609
00:31:07,787 --> 00:31:09,027
Speaker 3: Weekend Sport back in the month.

610
00:31:10,187 --> 00:31:13,987
Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call eight hundred

611
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612
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613
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Speaker 1: to one.

614
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:23,827
Speaker 3: Back to the lines in a minute. Still got my

615
00:31:23,867 --> 00:31:26,427
Speaker 3: red sox, still wear them and think of Sir Peter

616
00:31:26,547 --> 00:31:28,707
Speaker 3: go to New Zealand Thanks. Indeed, Chris's Pinny. My wife

617
00:31:28,747 --> 00:31:32,027
Speaker 3: still has two pairs of red sox. He still wears them.

618
00:31:32,187 --> 00:31:32,627
Speaker 4: And this one.

619
00:31:32,667 --> 00:31:35,187
Speaker 3: I've been following America's Cup since KSE seven. This time

620
00:31:35,387 --> 00:31:37,187
Speaker 3: the time zone is wrong for me. I was gathered.

621
00:31:37,227 --> 00:31:39,427
Speaker 3: The defense in Auckland was ruined by COVID protocols. But

622
00:31:39,467 --> 00:31:42,427
Speaker 3: I've still got my red sox. Thanks. Indeed, Peter got

623
00:31:42,427 --> 00:31:43,187
Speaker 3: some red sox.

624
00:31:44,427 --> 00:31:49,187
Speaker 11: Yeah, Jason, we are. I was working in Queenstown on

625
00:31:49,307 --> 00:31:52,907
Speaker 11: the Old End score and over at water Peak and

626
00:31:53,547 --> 00:31:56,347
Speaker 11: the company issued two pairs of red sox to every

627
00:31:56,467 --> 00:31:57,147
Speaker 11: staff member.

628
00:31:57,547 --> 00:31:57,987
Speaker 4: Brilliant.

629
00:31:59,107 --> 00:32:03,667
Speaker 11: And this was a thing from Plant Actions, who is

630
00:32:03,827 --> 00:32:08,027
Speaker 11: the CEO. And if you were caught out working without

631
00:32:08,067 --> 00:32:10,587
Speaker 11: your red sox on, you were in real too.

632
00:32:10,507 --> 00:32:13,387
Speaker 3: Tight, so you had to wear them. They were compulsory.

633
00:32:14,107 --> 00:32:18,627
Speaker 11: They were compulsory. And during that whole campaign, if you

634
00:32:18,667 --> 00:32:21,267
Speaker 11: didn't have your red sox on, you and real trouble.

635
00:32:22,467 --> 00:32:24,627
Speaker 3: That's so good. It's almost as though we were just

636
00:32:24,667 --> 00:32:27,227
Speaker 3: playing our very small part. We thought that if we

637
00:32:27,227 --> 00:32:28,987
Speaker 3: wore our red sox, we were doing our But.

638
00:32:29,147 --> 00:32:32,627
Speaker 11: Weren't we Well, we were, and we were all interested too,

639
00:32:33,907 --> 00:32:37,387
Speaker 11: you know, we're all keen of it. But if you

640
00:32:37,387 --> 00:32:39,147
Speaker 11: didn't have your red sox on, you're in trouble.

641
00:32:39,547 --> 00:32:41,547
Speaker 3: I love that. What about now, Peter? Are you are

642
00:32:41,547 --> 00:32:42,787
Speaker 3: you invested at all? Now?

643
00:32:43,867 --> 00:32:44,267
Speaker 17: No?

644
00:32:44,267 --> 00:32:46,987
Speaker 11: No, I don't ever red socks. And I still love

645
00:32:47,067 --> 00:32:50,627
Speaker 11: the whole scenario. I think it's just great.

646
00:32:50,747 --> 00:32:53,467
Speaker 3: Good man. But did you say have you have you

647
00:32:53,507 --> 00:32:55,107
Speaker 3: still got that? Have you still kept the.

648
00:32:55,067 --> 00:32:57,907
Speaker 11: Socks, have you, No, I don't. And they had little

649
00:32:58,027 --> 00:33:01,067
Speaker 11: yachts on the sides of them, and I still don't

650
00:33:01,107 --> 00:33:03,067
Speaker 11: have them. But yeah, I always did.

651
00:33:05,147 --> 00:33:05,467
Speaker 4: I love it.

652
00:33:05,507 --> 00:33:08,427
Speaker 3: I love it that you wouldn't be the only organization

653
00:33:08,547 --> 00:33:10,227
Speaker 3: back then that did that. I remember. It was just

654
00:33:10,267 --> 00:33:14,307
Speaker 3: a just a national movement, wasn't it. Whoever you know,

655
00:33:14,347 --> 00:33:17,587
Speaker 3: whoever jumped on board and manufactured them, would have made

656
00:33:17,587 --> 00:33:22,027
Speaker 3: an absolute killing. Thanks Peter, appreciate it very much. It's

657
00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:23,947
Speaker 3: not the time things, says this text. It's because they're

658
00:33:23,947 --> 00:33:26,907
Speaker 3: not competing in New Zealand. For that reason, I'm no

659
00:33:26,987 --> 00:33:32,347
Speaker 3: longer interested. Yeah, I'm trying to think to myself, Okay,

660
00:33:32,587 --> 00:33:36,067
Speaker 3: if we were defending it offshore but in a friendlier

661
00:33:36,147 --> 00:33:40,227
Speaker 3: time zone, would people watch or is the time zone

662
00:33:40,387 --> 00:33:42,947
Speaker 3: just so unfriendly? I mean one o'clock in the morning,

663
00:33:43,147 --> 00:33:45,907
Speaker 3: that is the middle of the night, right, that takes

664
00:33:46,747 --> 00:33:49,667
Speaker 3: a fair degree of commitment to watch from one am

665
00:33:49,987 --> 00:33:51,907
Speaker 3: two races, so you're up, you know, what are you

666
00:33:51,987 --> 00:33:55,307
Speaker 3: up to at least two or three hours? What if

667
00:33:55,307 --> 00:33:57,987
Speaker 3: we were defending it offshore in a friendly time zone

668
00:33:57,987 --> 00:34:01,147
Speaker 3: where you could watch the races in the afternoon around

669
00:34:01,187 --> 00:34:06,867
Speaker 3: about this time at breakfast, time in the evening, our

670
00:34:06,907 --> 00:34:10,627
Speaker 3: engagement be higher. I honestly believe it would be because

671
00:34:10,987 --> 00:34:14,307
Speaker 3: there are just more people awake. Some people are making

672
00:34:14,347 --> 00:34:16,707
Speaker 3: their protest. Obviously, yes, we don't like the fact that

673
00:34:16,747 --> 00:34:19,547
Speaker 3: it's been taken off shore and therefore we will not watch.

674
00:34:20,787 --> 00:34:27,827
Speaker 3: But for those who are discretionary viewers of anything, logic

675
00:34:27,987 --> 00:34:30,027
Speaker 3: just decrees that it's more likely you're going to watch

676
00:34:30,107 --> 00:34:32,107
Speaker 3: something at four in the afternoon than watch it at

677
00:34:32,107 --> 00:34:36,187
Speaker 3: four in the morning. So the time zone is just

678
00:34:36,227 --> 00:34:40,867
Speaker 3: the collateral damage of taking it off shore, and taking

679
00:34:40,907 --> 00:34:44,667
Speaker 3: it off shore to the exact opposite side of the

680
00:34:44,707 --> 00:34:50,427
Speaker 3: globe where the time zone just becomes horrendous for us.

681
00:34:51,947 --> 00:34:55,907
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure that it's necessarily a disengagement because

682
00:34:55,947 --> 00:34:58,587
Speaker 3: they've taken it off shore. Yes, that's a big part

683
00:34:58,587 --> 00:35:00,987
Speaker 3: of it, I know. And like I said before, clearly

684
00:35:01,387 --> 00:35:03,627
Speaker 3: logic again would decree if it's here in New Zealand.

685
00:35:03,667 --> 00:35:06,307
Speaker 3: Of course thousands and thousands and thousands of people woul

686
00:35:06,427 --> 00:35:10,227
Speaker 3: turn up, all right, they would, But it's the time

687
00:35:10,267 --> 00:35:12,827
Speaker 3: that we it's the time. It's the time of watching

688
00:35:12,867 --> 00:35:16,467
Speaker 3: it one in the morning. Who's even up, Susie, You've

689
00:35:16,467 --> 00:35:17,067
Speaker 3: been up watching?

690
00:35:18,227 --> 00:35:20,507
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh no, it's I get up at seven and

691
00:35:20,547 --> 00:35:22,587
Speaker 2: watch it and watch it.

692
00:35:22,667 --> 00:35:24,587
Speaker 3: Very civilized, very civilized.

693
00:35:24,627 --> 00:35:28,507
Speaker 2: I'll be watching some of this when the actual Cup starts,

694
00:35:28,507 --> 00:35:30,427
Speaker 2: when the you know, when the real deal starts, will

695
00:35:30,427 --> 00:35:32,507
Speaker 2: be up watching as many of those races at one

696
00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:34,507
Speaker 2: am as we possibly can.

697
00:35:35,267 --> 00:35:36,587
Speaker 3: Wonderful What do you like about it?

698
00:35:37,507 --> 00:35:40,587
Speaker 2: Okay? So well, the reason I was ringing is that

699
00:35:40,667 --> 00:35:43,787
Speaker 2: I get very frustrated with these people who have turned

700
00:35:43,827 --> 00:35:46,787
Speaker 2: their backs against this because it's not being held in

701
00:35:46,827 --> 00:35:49,667
Speaker 2: New Zealand. I'd just like to say that, you know,

702
00:35:49,827 --> 00:35:53,507
Speaker 2: there's two hundred million people living in the on the

703
00:35:53,547 --> 00:35:56,667
Speaker 2: eastern side of Europe who can get there by train,

704
00:35:56,907 --> 00:36:00,307
Speaker 2: who can drive there in their cars. They could go

705
00:36:00,427 --> 00:36:01,787
Speaker 2: back multiple times.

706
00:36:01,827 --> 00:36:01,987
Speaker 21: You know.

707
00:36:02,067 --> 00:36:05,307
Speaker 2: In the case of the English, people probably watched some

708
00:36:05,347 --> 00:36:08,627
Speaker 2: of the Louis Vautons and now they'll be heading back

709
00:36:08,707 --> 00:36:12,027
Speaker 2: down to Spain, down to Barcelona in their cars or

710
00:36:12,067 --> 00:36:14,387
Speaker 2: however they get there. They can fly in there to

711
00:36:14,467 --> 00:36:17,667
Speaker 2: watch the finals. I just don't believe that a country

712
00:36:17,707 --> 00:36:22,467
Speaker 2: of three million people can host it, and especially as

713
00:36:22,507 --> 00:36:24,907
Speaker 2: we now know that when you live on the other

714
00:36:24,987 --> 00:36:27,227
Speaker 2: side of the world, you tend not to tune in.

715
00:36:27,747 --> 00:36:30,187
Speaker 2: So I think what's happened with this series is it

716
00:36:30,347 --> 00:36:33,027
Speaker 2: opened it up to the East coast of the United States.

717
00:36:33,067 --> 00:36:36,987
Speaker 2: All those Americans, about one hundred and fifty million of them,

718
00:36:37,227 --> 00:36:41,787
Speaker 2: who can fly easily into Barcelona from the United States

719
00:36:42,027 --> 00:36:45,027
Speaker 2: rather than having to do a twenty four hour long

720
00:36:45,107 --> 00:36:50,067
Speaker 2: haul flight from Europe to New Zealand at a huge cost.

721
00:36:50,147 --> 00:36:54,147
Speaker 2: You know, flights are aren't cheap. I'm very, very proud

722
00:36:54,187 --> 00:36:56,907
Speaker 2: that a country of three million stands where we do with.

723
00:36:56,987 --> 00:36:57,907
Speaker 4: The America's Cup.

724
00:36:58,347 --> 00:37:00,547
Speaker 2: But if it wants to survive, we have it has

725
00:37:00,587 --> 00:37:03,307
Speaker 2: to appeal to women, and they're doing that with the

726
00:37:03,347 --> 00:37:07,027
Speaker 2: women's series, and also to young people. They're doing that.

727
00:37:07,347 --> 00:37:10,067
Speaker 2: So I think that, you know, I know that Grant

728
00:37:10,147 --> 00:37:14,067
Speaker 2: Dalton's name is not you know, is not respected as

729
00:37:14,147 --> 00:37:16,547
Speaker 2: much as I think it should. But I think that

730
00:37:16,587 --> 00:37:19,387
Speaker 2: what he's done is about the only reason why the

731
00:37:19,387 --> 00:37:23,187
Speaker 2: America's Cup can survive when you consider all the other

732
00:37:23,227 --> 00:37:28,867
Speaker 2: sports that are available for younger people and for women's.

733
00:37:27,227 --> 00:37:31,187
Speaker 3: A great point. It makes absolute perfect sense. The only

734
00:37:31,267 --> 00:37:34,027
Speaker 3: the only counterpoint, the only counterpoint people will say is

735
00:37:34,067 --> 00:37:37,747
Speaker 3: that is that we are the we are the defenders,

736
00:37:37,907 --> 00:37:40,107
Speaker 3: and we're defending it twelve thousand miles away. But that

737
00:37:40,227 --> 00:37:42,267
Speaker 3: is the only counterpoint to what you'll say.

738
00:37:42,907 --> 00:37:45,747
Speaker 2: It's the same with golf tournaments. You know, they don't

739
00:37:45,787 --> 00:37:49,267
Speaker 2: because we win a golf tournament, the golf tournament doesn't

740
00:37:49,307 --> 00:37:52,147
Speaker 2: come down to New Zealand. We still have the cup

741
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:54,827
Speaker 2: here and we and even though our you know, the

742
00:37:54,907 --> 00:37:58,427
Speaker 2: competition isn't being held in New Zealand, I still have

743
00:37:58,707 --> 00:38:01,867
Speaker 2: immense pride for it. I just love it and I've

744
00:38:01,867 --> 00:38:05,867
Speaker 2: been following it even since before Australia, you know, took

745
00:38:05,907 --> 00:38:08,507
Speaker 2: the America this Cup because my dad was fascinated to

746
00:38:08,547 --> 00:38:10,027
Speaker 2: it and we used to listen to it on the

747
00:38:10,147 --> 00:38:13,427
Speaker 2: radio or read the paper. Go down and get the

748
00:38:13,427 --> 00:38:15,747
Speaker 2: paper first thing in the morning and listen to it

749
00:38:16,187 --> 00:38:18,667
Speaker 2: and read about it. So I've been you know, like

750
00:38:19,147 --> 00:38:22,547
Speaker 2: sixty odd years of following it, and it's I sent

751
00:38:22,627 --> 00:38:26,067
Speaker 2: a we message through. I tuned in today. I listened

752
00:38:26,067 --> 00:38:28,427
Speaker 2: to a lot of z B but the only sport

753
00:38:28,467 --> 00:38:32,667
Speaker 2: I already listened to is is yachting. And so I

754
00:38:32,787 --> 00:38:35,467
Speaker 2: tuned in today for the first time to listen to

755
00:38:35,507 --> 00:38:38,907
Speaker 2: sport because you had an interview about the America's Cup.

756
00:38:39,587 --> 00:38:43,707
Speaker 3: So thank you, Susie. I hope you hope I could

757
00:38:43,707 --> 00:38:45,907
Speaker 3: tell I'm glad you've called up as well, and I hope,

758
00:38:45,947 --> 00:38:48,147
Speaker 3: I hope you'll find something else at our sporting our

759
00:38:48,187 --> 00:38:50,227
Speaker 3: sporting menu that you might like as well. But if

760
00:38:50,227 --> 00:38:52,507
Speaker 3: it's only the yachting you tune in for, it's great

761
00:38:52,547 --> 00:38:54,187
Speaker 3: to have you with us, Susi, and thanks for calling in.

762
00:38:54,227 --> 00:38:56,187
Speaker 3: You're getting a lot of support on text, a lot

763
00:38:56,187 --> 00:38:58,387
Speaker 3: of support indeed, And someone's made the point that, you know,

764
00:38:58,387 --> 00:38:59,947
Speaker 3: we don't just support the All Blacks when they played

765
00:38:59,987 --> 00:39:02,507
Speaker 3: home if they you know, when they won the World

766
00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:04,787
Speaker 3: Cup in twenty eleven, I know it's different when they

767
00:39:04,827 --> 00:39:07,027
Speaker 3: defended the World Cup. It was in the UK, you know,

768
00:39:07,107 --> 00:39:08,787
Speaker 3: similar time zone. We all got up to watch that,

769
00:39:08,867 --> 00:39:12,347
Speaker 3: didn't we, Suzi is while people are saying we're five million,

770
00:39:12,387 --> 00:39:15,187
Speaker 3: not three million anymore, But I know what you're saying.

771
00:39:15,507 --> 00:39:18,467
Speaker 3: It's it's something. I think it's almost like a turn

772
00:39:18,507 --> 00:39:20,067
Speaker 3: of phrase. Now, isn't a country of three and a

773
00:39:20,067 --> 00:39:22,027
Speaker 3: half million? I think we're five or something like that.

774
00:39:22,107 --> 00:39:25,467
Speaker 3: But Susie, great points well made. Thank you for calling

775
00:39:25,747 --> 00:39:27,227
Speaker 3: eight Away from One News Talks MB.

776
00:39:28,347 --> 00:39:30,667
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call

777
00:39:30,827 --> 00:39:34,907
Speaker 1: on eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hine.

778
00:39:35,107 --> 00:39:38,307
Speaker 3: News TALKB five and a half to one guy, you're

779
00:39:38,347 --> 00:39:40,107
Speaker 3: going to get the final word on this one.

780
00:39:41,067 --> 00:39:42,107
Speaker 22: Thank you very much.

781
00:39:43,147 --> 00:39:47,027
Speaker 17: The America's Cup belongs to the New Zealand Yacht Squadron

782
00:39:47,747 --> 00:39:52,987
Speaker 17: and it's always been a rule that there is a

783
00:39:53,107 --> 00:39:57,507
Speaker 17: challenging club and so to say it's not New Zealand

784
00:39:57,587 --> 00:40:05,827
Speaker 17: it's been taken away is wrong. Lingy lost the Cup

785
00:40:06,667 --> 00:40:10,347
Speaker 17: because they didn't have an annual regatherer of the club.

786
00:40:11,347 --> 00:40:16,667
Speaker 17: For example. The America's Cut to me is the pinnacle. Oh,

787
00:40:16,747 --> 00:40:24,947
Speaker 17: the ultimate sporting event. Lawyers, money, the whole bag.

788
00:40:25,707 --> 00:40:28,187
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure i'd have lawyers involved in my

789
00:40:28,347 --> 00:40:31,307
Speaker 3: ideal sport guy, but I take your point. It has

790
00:40:31,347 --> 00:40:34,907
Speaker 3: got a check at history, hasn't it. Plenty of layers

791
00:40:34,907 --> 00:40:38,947
Speaker 3: of conversation. Yeah. I prefer my sporting events without lawyers

792
00:40:38,947 --> 00:40:41,507
Speaker 3: and money involved, or money, I mean, I think that's

793
00:40:41,507 --> 00:40:43,707
Speaker 3: always going to be involved. But yeah, I prefer it

794
00:40:43,747 --> 00:40:48,227
Speaker 3: without without without the lawyers. Thanks for your call, Piney.

795
00:40:48,267 --> 00:40:50,187
Speaker 3: I think we'd all be pretty miffed if the All

796
00:40:50,187 --> 00:40:53,707
Speaker 3: Blacks base themselves in New York or London. That's just

797
00:40:53,827 --> 00:40:58,787
Speaker 3: good point. That's good point. Lots of good conversation. Just

798
00:40:58,827 --> 00:41:02,947
Speaker 3: a couple of final texts about the Oh, there's a

799
00:41:02,947 --> 00:41:05,387
Speaker 3: couple on the Red Sox and and things as well,

800
00:41:05,627 --> 00:41:09,067
Speaker 3: a lot of support for Susie as well, a lot

801
00:41:09,067 --> 00:41:12,307
Speaker 3: of people asking about the three million people. Yes, we

802
00:41:12,387 --> 00:41:14,147
Speaker 3: know it's five and a half million, Okay, I don't

803
00:41:14,187 --> 00:41:17,227
Speaker 3: think that's the point that she was making. I really

804
00:41:17,307 --> 00:41:20,147
Speaker 3: enjoyed chatting to her after one o'clock just on the

805
00:41:20,187 --> 00:41:23,027
Speaker 3: America's Cup too. So the first race Tomorrow morning one o'clock,

806
00:41:23,427 --> 00:41:25,707
Speaker 3: and then race two to follow weather permitting, of course,

807
00:41:25,747 --> 00:41:28,307
Speaker 3: then Monday morning two more, then a break till Thursday,

808
00:41:28,707 --> 00:41:30,267
Speaker 3: and then on and on from there. I think there

809
00:41:30,307 --> 00:41:32,227
Speaker 3: might be one more race day if they need all

810
00:41:32,227 --> 00:41:35,947
Speaker 3: thirteen obviously, I think it'll finish. If they need all

811
00:41:35,987 --> 00:41:38,867
Speaker 3: thirteen and there's no weather delays, I think it's Monday week,

812
00:41:38,907 --> 00:41:42,827
Speaker 3: it'll finish. We'll keep eyes on it for you. After

813
00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:47,667
Speaker 3: one o'clock. How do we make International Rugby League more relevant?

814
00:41:49,787 --> 00:41:52,667
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest fours issues on

815
00:41:53,067 --> 00:41:56,387
Speaker 1: and after fields, it's all on. We join Ford with

816
00:41:56,627 --> 00:42:01,067
Speaker 1: Jason Vade on your home of sport US Talk.

817
00:42:02,587 --> 00:42:04,907
Speaker 3: Hello there, one o seven. This is Weekend Spot. I'm

818
00:42:04,947 --> 00:42:07,307
Speaker 3: Jason Pine and McDonald as s producer, We've got a

819
00:42:07,347 --> 00:42:10,627
Speaker 3: couple of hours with you to talk some sport. Rugby

820
00:42:10,747 --> 00:42:15,147
Speaker 3: league is our lead this hour. Greg Peters standing might

821
00:42:15,187 --> 00:42:18,187
Speaker 3: to chat to us CEO of New Zealand Rugby League.

822
00:42:18,587 --> 00:42:21,507
Speaker 3: We've got the Pacific Nations Championship coming up and there's

823
00:42:21,587 --> 00:42:26,827
Speaker 3: high excitement I reckon anticipation about this, but it's kind

824
00:42:26,827 --> 00:42:29,467
Speaker 3: of been almost shoehorned in at the end of a

825
00:42:29,507 --> 00:42:35,467
Speaker 3: long NRL season. We're having an ANZAC test. From what

826
00:42:35,587 --> 00:42:40,507
Speaker 3: I can see twenty seventeen, the mid year windows been

827
00:42:40,547 --> 00:42:47,427
Speaker 3: taken away. How does rugby league internationally retain or even

828
00:42:47,507 --> 00:42:50,667
Speaker 3: regain its relevance? How do we do that? Because it

829
00:42:50,667 --> 00:42:52,267
Speaker 3: feels to me as that the players want to play

830
00:42:52,307 --> 00:42:54,667
Speaker 3: for New Zealand right they want to play for their

831
00:42:54,667 --> 00:42:57,627
Speaker 3: countries and I think the Pacific Island players are the same.

832
00:42:57,667 --> 00:43:00,187
Speaker 3: Maybe the Australians are different because of state of origin

833
00:43:00,227 --> 00:43:03,307
Speaker 3: over there, But how do we get more relevance around

834
00:43:03,347 --> 00:43:05,867
Speaker 3: international rugby league? Greg Peter's on that you might have

835
00:43:05,907 --> 00:43:08,427
Speaker 3: some ideas too, which I'd be very keen to hear.

836
00:43:08,867 --> 00:43:11,947
Speaker 3: Bunning's In PC quarter final weekend, Wellington getting the job

837
00:43:12,027 --> 00:43:15,267
Speaker 3: done against County's Madco last night at Sky Stadium twenty

838
00:43:15,307 --> 00:43:17,987
Speaker 3: nine fourteen. They're safely through and we'll host a semi

839
00:43:17,987 --> 00:43:22,467
Speaker 3: final next weekend. This afternoon Bay of Plenty Hawks Bay Todonger.

840
00:43:23,707 --> 00:43:27,107
Speaker 3: Who is the real Bay. We're going to go to

841
00:43:27,387 --> 00:43:31,707
Speaker 3: Bay of Plenty the host of this one, Mike Rodgers,

842
00:43:31,747 --> 00:43:33,667
Speaker 3: as the CEO of Bay of Pleavie Rugby. He's going

843
00:43:33,707 --> 00:43:35,547
Speaker 3: to have a chat to us, no doubt. A nice

844
00:43:35,587 --> 00:43:38,187
Speaker 3: day in Todonger, normally nice in that part of the country.

845
00:43:38,667 --> 00:43:43,547
Speaker 3: Tadalucky Whyeatto tonight, Tasman Canterbury tomorrow the remaining quarterfinals. Adam

846
00:43:43,547 --> 00:43:46,947
Speaker 3: Peacock from across the Tasman this hour too, your cause

847
00:43:46,987 --> 00:43:49,307
Speaker 3: and correspondents continue to be welcome. Oh eight hundred and

848
00:43:49,347 --> 00:43:51,267
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty nine, two nine two and tix. Thanks

849
00:43:51,267 --> 00:43:53,467
Speaker 3: for so many of you, or too so many of

850
00:43:53,507 --> 00:43:56,907
Speaker 3: you for texting last hour on the America's Cup. It

851
00:43:56,947 --> 00:43:59,267
Speaker 3: may be that we have a lack of engagement in

852
00:43:59,347 --> 00:44:00,907
Speaker 3: terms of getting up at one o'clock in the morning,

853
00:44:00,907 --> 00:44:02,827
Speaker 3: but there were certainly lots of thoughts coming through on

854
00:44:02,867 --> 00:44:05,627
Speaker 3: all sides of the spectrum, so thank you for taking

855
00:44:05,667 --> 00:44:09,867
Speaker 3: the time. We will around about this time tomorrow review

856
00:44:09,947 --> 00:44:13,547
Speaker 3: the first two races for you now, Man Chris Reeve

857
00:44:13,947 --> 00:44:16,307
Speaker 3: from Barcelona will be with us in about twenty four

858
00:44:16,307 --> 00:44:20,147
Speaker 3: hours from now. Well, let's go to rugby league as

859
00:44:20,187 --> 00:44:24,827
Speaker 3: we prepare for rugby League's Pacific Nations Championship. International rugby

860
00:44:24,867 --> 00:44:28,187
Speaker 3: league continues to battle for space and for relevance in

861
00:44:28,227 --> 00:44:30,987
Speaker 3: the sports calendar. When the Keywis play Australia in christ

862
00:44:31,107 --> 00:44:34,987
Speaker 3: Church on the twenty seventh of October, it'll be a

863
00:44:35,147 --> 00:44:37,107
Speaker 3: year since they last played a test.

864
00:44:37,347 --> 00:44:39,667
Speaker 23: It's a recon went over its twenty at four New

865
00:44:39,787 --> 00:44:43,187
Speaker 23: Zealand points to now they're winn's some.

866
00:44:43,307 --> 00:44:46,907
Speaker 3: The Pacific Championship. Roll on twenty twenty four. Yeah, roll

867
00:44:46,947 --> 00:44:49,227
Speaker 3: on twenty twenty four. But it's taken a year for

868
00:44:49,307 --> 00:44:51,387
Speaker 3: the Keywis to get back out there. New Zealand Rugby

869
00:44:51,467 --> 00:44:53,667
Speaker 3: League CEO Greg Peters is with us. Greg, thanks for

870
00:44:53,707 --> 00:44:58,227
Speaker 3: your time. How challenging is it to fit international matches

871
00:44:58,267 --> 00:45:01,987
Speaker 3: into what is a crowded NRL Rugby league calendar.

872
00:45:02,987 --> 00:45:05,987
Speaker 24: Look, it's a very jam season now, that's the problem.

873
00:45:06,027 --> 00:45:09,107
Speaker 24: I think think a very long, hard season for players.

874
00:45:09,147 --> 00:45:10,507
Speaker 24: And you know, when you look at some of the

875
00:45:10,547 --> 00:45:13,947
Speaker 24: stats that came out of that final last weekend for

876
00:45:14,027 --> 00:45:16,947
Speaker 24: thirty five minutes thirty three minutes of ball and play.

877
00:45:17,027 --> 00:45:20,267
Speaker 24: It's just staggering. And the pace of the game has

878
00:45:20,947 --> 00:45:23,907
Speaker 24: gone up another notch as well in recent recent times,

879
00:45:23,947 --> 00:45:26,227
Speaker 24: so you know, it takes it out of the players.

880
00:45:26,267 --> 00:45:29,467
Speaker 24: And without a doubt, it's a big season, and we've

881
00:45:29,507 --> 00:45:31,427
Speaker 24: now got Vegas at the start of the season and

882
00:45:31,467 --> 00:45:35,267
Speaker 24: the All Stars, and then you know, through the whole

883
00:45:35,347 --> 00:45:38,307
Speaker 24: twenty six weeks of NRL plus state of origin for

884
00:45:38,427 --> 00:45:41,147
Speaker 24: some players on top of that, it gets to be

885
00:45:41,387 --> 00:45:42,187
Speaker 24: pretty tough season.

886
00:45:42,227 --> 00:45:45,347
Speaker 3: Really, it feels Greig like the NRL have all of

887
00:45:45,387 --> 00:45:48,187
Speaker 3: the power here. Is that how it feels to you?

888
00:45:49,467 --> 00:45:51,827
Speaker 13: Yeah, look, they certainly are.

889
00:45:52,587 --> 00:45:55,187
Speaker 24: You know that they do what's best for the NRL

890
00:45:55,227 --> 00:45:57,627
Speaker 24: and you would expect them to do that, and they

891
00:45:57,667 --> 00:46:02,067
Speaker 24: have messed commercial deals and broadcasting deals that revolve around

892
00:46:02,147 --> 00:46:05,947
Speaker 24: the NRL competition and state of origin. But what we

893
00:46:05,947 --> 00:46:08,907
Speaker 24: would like to see is a decent chunk of the

894
00:46:08,947 --> 00:46:13,227
Speaker 24: season being dedicated to international footy so that you can

895
00:46:13,267 --> 00:46:16,747
Speaker 24: have a reasonable program and you can actually have players

896
00:46:16,747 --> 00:46:19,827
Speaker 24: turning up in reasonable shape to play at the topical

897
00:46:19,867 --> 00:46:20,347
Speaker 24: of the game.

898
00:46:20,787 --> 00:46:23,147
Speaker 3: In your discussions with the n r L, how likely

899
00:46:23,187 --> 00:46:24,267
Speaker 3: does that feel.

900
00:46:25,547 --> 00:46:28,827
Speaker 24: Difficult, We'll be, We'll be what I'd say. But if

901
00:46:28,867 --> 00:46:30,707
Speaker 24: you look at what what what's happened in the last

902
00:46:30,747 --> 00:46:33,827
Speaker 24: couple of years of the Pacific Championships, that's a massive

903
00:46:33,867 --> 00:46:36,867
Speaker 24: investment by the n r L in jed r L

904
00:46:36,947 --> 00:46:38,907
Speaker 24: for the matches that are in New Zealand that we

905
00:46:38,987 --> 00:46:41,707
Speaker 24: host because they're they're under our watch.

906
00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,267
Speaker 4: And our risk.

907
00:46:44,427 --> 00:46:46,267
Speaker 25: But the you know, when you look at.

908
00:46:46,227 --> 00:46:49,387
Speaker 24: What they're doing in the Islands and the second tier

909
00:46:49,427 --> 00:46:52,987
Speaker 24: of the of the Bowl, it's a messive investment in

910
00:46:53,027 --> 00:46:55,827
Speaker 24: both means and women's games. So we've got to respect

911
00:46:55,827 --> 00:46:58,027
Speaker 24: that they're putting the money in. But the end of

912
00:46:58,027 --> 00:46:59,747
Speaker 24: the day, if you really want to return out of

913
00:46:59,747 --> 00:47:01,947
Speaker 24: the international game, you've got to get a clear space

914
00:47:02,027 --> 00:47:06,347
Speaker 24: with the top players available and a decent window to

915
00:47:06,507 --> 00:47:09,747
Speaker 24: really banetize it and make it appeal to the hearts

916
00:47:09,747 --> 00:47:11,227
Speaker 24: and minds of fans around the world.

917
00:47:11,347 --> 00:47:13,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely one hundred percent. And I think what

918
00:47:13,827 --> 00:47:16,067
Speaker 3: we're talking about here, Greg, if I'm hearing you correctly,

919
00:47:16,147 --> 00:47:18,307
Speaker 3: is a mid year window. As you say, we've got

920
00:47:18,347 --> 00:47:20,107
Speaker 3: the Pacific Nations Championship now, but a lot of the

921
00:47:20,147 --> 00:47:23,187
Speaker 3: players are unavailable. Look at the squad that Stacy Jones

922
00:47:23,267 --> 00:47:25,947
Speaker 3: named you know, with so many absentees and more in

923
00:47:25,987 --> 00:47:30,187
Speaker 3: the last few days, I mean mid mid year feels

924
00:47:30,267 --> 00:47:32,187
Speaker 3: like the place, right, Would that be what you'd be

925
00:47:32,267 --> 00:47:35,107
Speaker 3: keen on to see a mid year international window back?

926
00:47:36,467 --> 00:47:39,427
Speaker 24: Yes, we would be, and again our players have said

927
00:47:39,427 --> 00:47:41,587
Speaker 24: that as well, and things like the exact tests. We

928
00:47:41,627 --> 00:47:46,667
Speaker 24: should be and we should be using that and sort

929
00:47:46,667 --> 00:47:50,507
Speaker 24: of celebrating that amazing event that it could be by

930
00:47:50,587 --> 00:47:53,387
Speaker 24: having Australians. Zella matches that in that window as well,

931
00:47:53,707 --> 00:47:55,507
Speaker 24: and if we had a break in the NRL season

932
00:47:55,547 --> 00:47:56,787
Speaker 24: it would allow us to do that.

933
00:47:58,067 --> 00:47:59,067
Speaker 4: Bearing in mind.

934
00:47:58,827 --> 00:48:02,707
Speaker 24: That you know, the Pacific country players are able to

935
00:48:02,707 --> 00:48:05,627
Speaker 24: play Origin through that window and the Kimis aren't, which

936
00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:09,587
Speaker 24: is another another debate which we would like to see advanced.

937
00:48:10,147 --> 00:48:13,347
Speaker 24: We would certainly like to have a clear window back again.

938
00:48:13,467 --> 00:48:16,667
Speaker 24: We used to have one week of a stand alone

939
00:48:16,747 --> 00:48:20,467
Speaker 24: State of Origin weekend when when week of Planter Nationals

940
00:48:20,507 --> 00:48:24,027
Speaker 24: against the Pacific Countries, which which was fantastic, but even

941
00:48:24,067 --> 00:48:25,947
Speaker 24: a longer window would be would be better.

942
00:48:26,467 --> 00:48:27,547
Speaker 3: Why was it taken away?

943
00:48:28,787 --> 00:48:30,707
Speaker 24: Well, then r I decided that they were going to

944
00:48:30,707 --> 00:48:36,547
Speaker 24: play Origin on Wednesday Wednesday, so it took out the

945
00:48:36,627 --> 00:48:40,467
Speaker 24: clear weekend when when there was no club footy.

946
00:48:40,227 --> 00:48:40,987
Speaker 8: And only origin.

947
00:48:41,667 --> 00:48:41,907
Speaker 9: Uh.

948
00:48:41,987 --> 00:48:44,027
Speaker 24: And I think if you look at that, even the

949
00:48:44,107 --> 00:48:47,147
Speaker 24: demands on players backing up from a Wednesday night state

950
00:48:47,187 --> 00:48:49,787
Speaker 24: of origin, and in some cases we've quite a few

951
00:48:49,827 --> 00:48:52,707
Speaker 24: cases playing club footy on a weekend, that's it's a

952
00:48:52,707 --> 00:48:55,547
Speaker 24: massive ask. I don't think you've seen any other codes

953
00:48:56,027 --> 00:48:57,067
Speaker 24: doing it quite like there.

954
00:48:57,427 --> 00:49:00,387
Speaker 3: In your discussions with the players, Greg, do they want

955
00:49:00,427 --> 00:49:02,427
Speaker 3: to play international rugby league?

956
00:49:03,627 --> 00:49:06,467
Speaker 24: Absolutely? If you look at the currently currents quite at

957
00:49:06,467 --> 00:49:09,147
Speaker 24: the moment, people like James Fisher, Harris or Charms or

958
00:49:09,427 --> 00:49:11,227
Speaker 24: that they're on record as saying they want to play

959
00:49:11,267 --> 00:49:14,067
Speaker 24: more internationals and they want that mid year window back

960
00:49:14,147 --> 00:49:17,467
Speaker 24: and and and there's nothing great, no greater pride in

961
00:49:17,547 --> 00:49:20,387
Speaker 24: putting on a national jersey. And and that's you know

962
00:49:20,427 --> 00:49:22,747
Speaker 24: that that's coming from the players. Now, that's not just

963
00:49:22,867 --> 00:49:23,987
Speaker 24: that's not an administrators.

964
00:49:24,427 --> 00:49:27,987
Speaker 3: So as we try to find clear air for the

965
00:49:27,987 --> 00:49:32,147
Speaker 3: international game, how powerful could the players' voices be in

966
00:49:32,147 --> 00:49:32,787
Speaker 3: that discussion?

967
00:49:33,827 --> 00:49:35,587
Speaker 24: I think I think they're a very important part, Like

968
00:49:35,707 --> 00:49:38,187
Speaker 24: they are in every conversation. We should always respect the

969
00:49:38,267 --> 00:49:41,827
Speaker 24: views of players and listen to what they're saying. And

970
00:49:41,827 --> 00:49:44,307
Speaker 24: and it's not. It's not only in the New Zealand context,

971
00:49:44,387 --> 00:49:47,707
Speaker 24: but also players who go back to pay for their

972
00:49:47,707 --> 00:49:51,067
Speaker 24: cultural heritage. And it's a very big part of who

973
00:49:51,107 --> 00:49:53,387
Speaker 24: who our players are. You know, when we look at

974
00:49:53,427 --> 00:49:56,747
Speaker 24: New Zealand participants in rugby league, it's eighty six percent

975
00:49:56,827 --> 00:49:59,507
Speaker 24: Maori pacifica and culture is a massive part of that.

976
00:50:00,027 --> 00:50:03,507
Speaker 24: And playing for your country and your culture and baro

977
00:50:03,707 --> 00:50:07,627
Speaker 24: and fans is a really incredible part. And this is

978
00:50:07,667 --> 00:50:09,987
Speaker 24: the time that they get to play, to play under

979
00:50:09,987 --> 00:50:13,547
Speaker 24: the national flag and represent their countries and they have

980
00:50:13,627 --> 00:50:14,387
Speaker 24: great pride in that.

981
00:50:14,547 --> 00:50:16,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is undoubtedly true of New Zealand players

982
00:50:17,027 --> 00:50:18,987
Speaker 3: and those on the Pacific Islands as well. But by

983
00:50:19,027 --> 00:50:22,227
Speaker 3: contrast is part of the problem here Greg that for

984
00:50:22,307 --> 00:50:26,907
Speaker 3: Australian players, state of origin is actually considered a higher

985
00:50:26,947 --> 00:50:29,027
Speaker 3: honor than playing for Australia.

986
00:50:29,867 --> 00:50:31,947
Speaker 24: I think that's true. I think the state of origin,

987
00:50:32,427 --> 00:50:34,307
Speaker 24: it's always been one of our debates, is sort of

988
00:50:34,347 --> 00:50:39,427
Speaker 24: ranked in many people's minds ahead of international football, which

989
00:50:39,467 --> 00:50:42,027
Speaker 24: is sort of the wrong pecking order. Certainly seen as

990
00:50:42,307 --> 00:50:45,107
Speaker 24: a trial for Australia when they pay for state of

991
00:50:45,107 --> 00:50:48,907
Speaker 24: origin teams and select the Kangaroos off and out of

992
00:50:48,947 --> 00:50:49,547
Speaker 24: those games.

993
00:50:49,587 --> 00:50:52,267
Speaker 3: Really, if we look forward, the NRL are on record

994
00:50:52,307 --> 00:50:54,347
Speaker 3: and you know they're very keen to expand they want

995
00:50:54,347 --> 00:50:56,747
Speaker 3: to get to twenty teams in the NRAL, which I

996
00:50:56,747 --> 00:51:00,627
Speaker 3: guess will add even more games to the NRL season.

997
00:51:01,387 --> 00:51:04,107
Speaker 3: Against that backdrop, do you feel optimistic you can make

998
00:51:04,147 --> 00:51:06,907
Speaker 3: some headway with what you want internationally.

999
00:51:07,347 --> 00:51:12,227
Speaker 24: When they get to the twenty team mark. If they do,

1000
00:51:12,987 --> 00:51:16,067
Speaker 24: then that I think provides opportunities to split into two

1001
00:51:16,147 --> 00:51:22,427
Speaker 24: conferences of team being a minder. The NL competition is

1002
00:51:22,467 --> 00:51:25,987
Speaker 24: not a pure two round competition anyway, that's only around

1003
00:51:26,027 --> 00:51:29,747
Speaker 24: and a half in reality, so they to be able

1004
00:51:29,747 --> 00:51:32,627
Speaker 24: to split into conferences and have some cross conference play

1005
00:51:32,947 --> 00:51:37,307
Speaker 24: and reduce the number of weeks without reducing the value

1006
00:51:37,307 --> 00:51:40,467
Speaker 24: to the broadcaster because the number of games probably goes up.

1007
00:51:40,347 --> 00:51:41,107
Speaker 11: Over that period.

1008
00:51:42,147 --> 00:51:44,947
Speaker 24: That that believer is a realistic option that they should

1009
00:51:45,027 --> 00:51:49,667
Speaker 24: consider to give a longer window for international matches, which

1010
00:51:49,707 --> 00:51:52,827
Speaker 24: also when you look at the countries around the world,

1011
00:51:53,067 --> 00:51:56,747
Speaker 24: it enables them to build a commercial program off their

1012
00:51:56,787 --> 00:52:00,867
Speaker 24: international teams, which is what other sports do, and be

1013
00:52:01,027 --> 00:52:03,347
Speaker 24: more viable and invest more in a game within their

1014
00:52:03,387 --> 00:52:07,067
Speaker 24: own domestic territories, which currently is a real, real battle

1015
00:52:07,107 --> 00:52:10,907
Speaker 24: because we're heavily dependent on the NROL to do that

1016
00:52:11,027 --> 00:52:12,387
Speaker 24: into the islands.

1017
00:52:11,947 --> 00:52:12,227
Speaker 8: And to.

1018
00:52:13,947 --> 00:52:16,787
Speaker 24: Fund the game generally. So it'd be better if, I think,

1019
00:52:16,827 --> 00:52:20,347
Speaker 24: if we're in an international program that a enabled national

1020
00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:24,387
Speaker 24: pride and cultural heritage, but also a commercial program that

1021
00:52:24,427 --> 00:52:27,467
Speaker 24: you can build a really sustainable model from.

1022
00:52:27,627 --> 00:52:30,587
Speaker 3: We've got to get that ANZAC Day or ANZAC test back,

1023
00:52:30,627 --> 00:52:32,987
Speaker 3: don't we greg them. I couldn't believe we haven't had

1024
00:52:33,027 --> 00:52:35,587
Speaker 3: that since twenty seventeen. We've got to try and get

1025
00:52:35,587 --> 00:52:37,747
Speaker 3: that ANZAC test back, don't we.

1026
00:52:37,747 --> 00:52:40,347
Speaker 24: Well, I absolutely believe that. I think that should be

1027
00:52:40,347 --> 00:52:44,147
Speaker 24: the the Marquee game and that window and tayed on

1028
00:52:44,147 --> 00:52:46,467
Speaker 24: on or around ANZAC Day like they are with a

1029
00:52:46,507 --> 00:52:48,987
Speaker 24: club footy. But it's different when it's national and it

1030
00:52:48,987 --> 00:52:52,067
Speaker 24: should be in New Zealand Australia obviously, because that's the

1031
00:52:52,107 --> 00:52:57,307
Speaker 24: inzact relationship. And you know, we're letting other other codes

1032
00:52:57,347 --> 00:52:59,907
Speaker 24: sneak into that conversation whereas we should have owned it.

1033
00:53:00,027 --> 00:53:02,707
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, all right, well, we'll look into the Pacific

1034
00:53:02,787 --> 00:53:04,867
Speaker 3: Nations Championship looking forward to that, where you're starting to

1035
00:53:04,867 --> 00:53:06,827
Speaker 3: think you might have to get your boot bots out

1036
00:53:06,827 --> 00:53:07,707
Speaker 3: to play in the halves.

1037
00:53:09,067 --> 00:53:11,907
Speaker 24: Now I'm going to tell a little general Stacey jones

1038
00:53:11,947 --> 00:53:15,147
Speaker 24: E here too, but certainly I'm a lot further down

1039
00:53:15,227 --> 00:53:17,947
Speaker 24: the picking order and take goodnesses and front rowers and

1040
00:53:17,947 --> 00:53:19,947
Speaker 24: middle rows that can get well before me.

1041
00:53:20,187 --> 00:53:22,147
Speaker 3: Indeed, all right, Greg, well we look forward to that

1042
00:53:22,307 --> 00:53:25,547
Speaker 3: and hopefully some headway you can make some headway on

1043
00:53:25,987 --> 00:53:29,667
Speaker 3: getting international rugby league but more relevant and getting that

1044
00:53:29,667 --> 00:53:31,987
Speaker 3: mid season window back, getting the ANZAC Test back on

1045
00:53:32,067 --> 00:53:35,147
Speaker 3: the agenda as well. Appreciate you taking the time for

1046
00:53:35,187 --> 00:53:38,667
Speaker 3: a chat this afternoon, Jesus plonny as always, Thanks Greg,

1047
00:53:38,707 --> 00:53:42,867
Speaker 3: Greg Peter's there, New Zealand Rugby League CEO. Such a

1048
00:53:42,947 --> 00:53:46,427
Speaker 3: challenging situation. Can you find me a solution to this?

1049
00:53:46,907 --> 00:53:52,307
Speaker 3: Can somebody give me the answer? That's probably asking the impossible,

1050
00:53:52,347 --> 00:53:54,467
Speaker 3: because if we had an answer, we'd have the solution.

1051
00:53:55,547 --> 00:53:58,187
Speaker 3: But can you suggest a solution to me on this

1052
00:53:58,507 --> 00:54:02,187
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty How do you fit

1053
00:54:02,267 --> 00:54:08,227
Speaker 3: international rugby league in to what is a crowded NRL calendar?

1054
00:54:10,227 --> 00:54:13,027
Speaker 3: Is it just a matter of ring fencing at weekend

1055
00:54:13,067 --> 00:54:15,587
Speaker 3: in the middle of the season for international games and

1056
00:54:15,627 --> 00:54:17,747
Speaker 3: while we're at it, ring fencing one around the twenty

1057
00:54:17,747 --> 00:54:20,227
Speaker 3: fifth of April for an ANZAC test and then also

1058
00:54:20,227 --> 00:54:23,827
Speaker 3: playing games around this time of the year. That's three windows.

1059
00:54:24,107 --> 00:54:27,827
Speaker 3: Currently there's just the one and it's now no ANZAC test,

1060
00:54:28,467 --> 00:54:32,627
Speaker 3: no mid year tests. As I said before, when the

1061
00:54:32,707 --> 00:54:35,027
Speaker 3: Kiwis play Australia in christ Jatch in a couple of weeks,

1062
00:54:35,067 --> 00:54:38,627
Speaker 3: it'll be a calendar year since the Kiwis last played.

1063
00:54:40,347 --> 00:54:44,347
Speaker 3: It just feels to me as though the NRL simply

1064
00:54:44,467 --> 00:54:48,067
Speaker 3: do not care, don't care at all about the international game,

1065
00:54:48,947 --> 00:54:52,427
Speaker 3: and as Greek Peter said, it's not really their job

1066
00:54:52,507 --> 00:54:55,867
Speaker 3: to care. However, they do have I believe a duty

1067
00:54:55,907 --> 00:54:58,667
Speaker 3: of care to the wider health of the game and

1068
00:54:58,707 --> 00:55:04,507
Speaker 3: that includes internationals. For Australian players. Though state of origin

1069
00:55:04,667 --> 00:55:08,747
Speaker 3: is the absolute pinnacle. Ask all of them, the Australian

1070
00:55:08,827 --> 00:55:14,307
Speaker 3: players to rank, you know, their pinnacle and it's state

1071
00:55:14,307 --> 00:55:16,907
Speaker 3: of origin ahead of the Kangaroos every single time, every

1072
00:55:16,947 --> 00:55:19,627
Speaker 3: single time. State of origin is the pinnacle of rugby

1073
00:55:19,707 --> 00:55:24,267
Speaker 3: league for Australians. Now, Keewis don't have that opportunity, right,

1074
00:55:24,467 --> 00:55:29,787
Speaker 3: we don't can't play state of origin. But what other

1075
00:55:29,907 --> 00:55:36,227
Speaker 3: sport pays so little regard to its international calendar in particular? Yeah,

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00:55:36,227 --> 00:55:38,467
Speaker 3: team Sports.

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00:55:39,827 --> 00:55:40,147
Speaker 13: Look at.

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00:55:40,667 --> 00:55:46,547
Speaker 3: I know that we're comparing very different frameworks and landscapes here,

1079
00:55:46,587 --> 00:55:50,307
Speaker 3: but rugby league as a game in this part of

1080
00:55:50,347 --> 00:55:53,907
Speaker 3: the world, driven largely by the NRL, just doesn't seem

1081
00:55:53,947 --> 00:55:57,947
Speaker 3: to care about test matches. So what is the solution

1082
00:55:59,187 --> 00:56:02,667
Speaker 3: the players want to play? As Greg Peters said, we'll

1083
00:56:02,667 --> 00:56:05,187
Speaker 3: have a couple of Qebi players on the show in

1084
00:56:05,227 --> 00:56:07,787
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks ahead of the Pacific Nations Championship,

1085
00:56:07,827 --> 00:56:11,987
Speaker 3: and I'm reasonably certain that they're always very proud to

1086
00:56:11,987 --> 00:56:14,667
Speaker 3: pull on the Kiwi jumper because for them it is

1087
00:56:14,707 --> 00:56:17,627
Speaker 3: the pinnacle. They don't have state of origin. Playing for

1088
00:56:17,627 --> 00:56:21,147
Speaker 3: the Kiwis is the pinnacle. But while Australia have the

1089
00:56:21,227 --> 00:56:26,267
Speaker 3: power and all of the influence, I don't know if

1090
00:56:26,307 --> 00:56:28,347
Speaker 3: it's going to change. Like I say here, we are

1091
00:56:28,347 --> 00:56:32,027
Speaker 3: no anti tests for seven years, no mid year internationals

1092
00:56:32,027 --> 00:56:38,827
Speaker 3: this year. Do we just have to accept actually the

1093
00:56:38,867 --> 00:56:46,867
Speaker 3: international game of rugby leaguers close to extinction? One two

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Speaker 3: News Talks a b Your calls and thoughts are welcome.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine

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Speaker 3: to two on text back after this on weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: One Crunch hold Engage Weekend Sport with Jason Fame and GJ. Gunnomes,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's first trusted home builder, News talks a baby.

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Speaker 3: One twenty five. As we continue to solve the problems

1100
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Speaker 3: of the sporting world. Jamie, you're in charge of rugby league.

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00:57:09,787 --> 00:57:11,747
Speaker 3: What do we do well?

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Speaker 25: Just I remember back in the day when I when

1103
00:57:14,867 --> 00:57:18,667
Speaker 25: I when I started following rugby league late eighties, early nineties,

1104
00:57:20,387 --> 00:57:22,947
Speaker 25: Winfield cappas it was known back then, was what twenty

1105
00:57:22,947 --> 00:57:25,387
Speaker 25: two rounds, so you had plenty of room for state

1106
00:57:25,467 --> 00:57:31,107
Speaker 25: of origin and of course international test matches. Just think

1107
00:57:31,187 --> 00:57:33,547
Speaker 25: right now with the twenty seven round season, I think

1108
00:57:33,587 --> 00:57:34,467
Speaker 25: it's just too long.

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00:57:37,307 --> 00:57:37,467
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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00:57:38,067 --> 00:57:40,707
Speaker 26: Yeah, ideally would like to see it come coming back

1111
00:57:40,747 --> 00:57:44,347
Speaker 26: to maybe twenty four rounds or something like that, had

1112
00:57:44,347 --> 00:57:47,467
Speaker 26: the anywhere done by the say the middle of September,

1113
00:57:47,507 --> 00:57:49,027
Speaker 26: and then you might have a little bit of room,

1114
00:57:49,027 --> 00:57:51,227
Speaker 26: a bit more room for international rugby league.

1115
00:57:51,787 --> 00:57:52,107
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1116
00:57:52,227 --> 00:57:56,147
Speaker 3: It's the problem I think, Jamie, is that the NRL

1117
00:57:56,387 --> 00:57:59,667
Speaker 3: want broadcast content. The more content they have, the more

1118
00:57:59,707 --> 00:58:04,347
Speaker 3: money they can extract from a broadcaster. And I don't

1119
00:58:04,347 --> 00:58:07,507
Speaker 3: know what, maybe I'm being a little bit unfair, but

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Speaker 3: do you think the NRL care about the international game.

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00:58:12,227 --> 00:58:18,187
Speaker 26: No, not likely. They probably say they do, but in

1122
00:58:18,267 --> 00:58:22,187
Speaker 26: general you're probably I would say, no, probably not.

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Speaker 3: The other part is when we get when we get

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00:58:25,027 --> 00:58:26,627
Speaker 3: to twenty and when we get to twenty teams as well,

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Speaker 3: although Greek Peters did say if we get to twenty

1126
00:58:28,387 --> 00:58:30,667
Speaker 3: teams in the NRL, maybe that does actually shorten the

1127
00:58:30,707 --> 00:58:33,347
Speaker 3: season because you go into two conferences or something similar.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean you can even just play each other once,

1129
00:58:36,867 --> 00:58:40,427
Speaker 25: so we'd be what make you what twenty nineteen twenty rounds? Yeah,

1130
00:58:40,507 --> 00:58:42,667
Speaker 25: the one rounds, Yeah, something like that, and then they

1131
00:58:42,667 --> 00:58:45,067
Speaker 25: could you could make a few weeks. Yeah, they'll save

1132
00:58:45,107 --> 00:58:49,107
Speaker 25: a few weeks. But yeah, it's all about, yeah, the

1133
00:58:49,187 --> 00:58:51,067
Speaker 25: money at the end of the day. And of course

1134
00:58:51,107 --> 00:58:55,067
Speaker 25: it's that's where that's where all the money rises in

1135
00:58:55,107 --> 00:58:58,267
Speaker 25: all the state of origin pretending.

1136
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Speaker 3: To get a bit misty odd with these things, but

1137
00:58:59,347 --> 00:59:01,547
Speaker 3: I'm just even hearing you talk about watching the Kiwi's

1138
00:59:01,907 --> 00:59:04,667
Speaker 3: play International Rugby League late eighties, early nineties. There were

1139
00:59:04,747 --> 00:59:06,307
Speaker 3: great days, weren't they. You know though some of the

1140
00:59:06,467 --> 00:59:07,827
Speaker 3: test matches iconic stuff.

1141
00:59:07,987 --> 00:59:09,627
Speaker 26: Yeah, exactly.

1142
00:59:10,107 --> 00:59:13,987
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean I can't come next today again, but

1143
00:59:14,067 --> 00:59:17,187
Speaker 25: it's going to take a long time. Yeah, it's going

1144
00:59:17,267 --> 00:59:19,787
Speaker 25: to take so take a bit of sacrifice probably from

1145
00:59:19,827 --> 00:59:23,227
Speaker 25: the NRL to to make that happen.

1146
00:59:23,307 --> 00:59:25,947
Speaker 22: But yeah, whether they go through or not, who knows.

1147
00:59:27,627 --> 00:59:30,187
Speaker 3: Who knows? Indeed, Jamie or Mate, thanks for calling through.

1148
00:59:30,267 --> 00:59:35,387
Speaker 3: I look, I share your your optimism. Well, I certainly

1149
00:59:35,427 --> 00:59:39,227
Speaker 3: show your desire to go back to that. I don't

1150
00:59:39,267 --> 00:59:42,067
Speaker 3: think either as either of us really feel that optimistic

1151
00:59:42,067 --> 00:59:43,867
Speaker 3: about it. Like I said, I just think the NRL,

1152
00:59:45,387 --> 00:59:47,227
Speaker 3: you know, without wanting to put too fine a point

1153
00:59:47,227 --> 00:59:51,067
Speaker 3: on it, don't really care, do they. They don't really care.

1154
00:59:52,747 --> 00:59:55,027
Speaker 3: The more content they have to sell a broadcast, the

1155
00:59:55,067 --> 00:59:58,027
Speaker 3: better for them. If they had to cut back on games,

1156
00:59:58,707 --> 01:00:00,787
Speaker 3: then the math would tell you they get less for

1157
01:00:00,827 --> 01:00:04,467
Speaker 3: their broadcasting deal. But there has to be a balance

1158
01:00:04,467 --> 01:00:07,547
Speaker 3: struck somewhere, surely about the over all health of the game,

1159
01:00:08,107 --> 01:00:10,227
Speaker 3: the international part of which is a key playing to it,

1160
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Speaker 3: can I, Paul?

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Speaker 27: I mean, yeah, just for a couple of things. First,

1162
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Speaker 27: of the international game, I do know for a fact

1163
01:00:21,067 --> 01:00:25,547
Speaker 27: that Andy's and Andrew abdo are or the n L

1164
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Speaker 27: are absolutely one hundred percent working on international you know,

1165
01:00:31,347 --> 01:00:34,307
Speaker 27: the international calendar. I think that's the goal is to

1166
01:00:34,467 --> 01:00:36,787
Speaker 27: get to the twenty teams. Once they get to the

1167
01:00:36,787 --> 01:00:39,707
Speaker 27: twenty teams, everyone plays each other once and then they'll

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01:00:39,787 --> 01:00:43,147
Speaker 27: free up you know, seven or eight weeks where they

1169
01:00:43,187 --> 01:00:47,147
Speaker 27: can have that international window. And yeah, so, I mean

1170
01:00:47,307 --> 01:00:50,787
Speaker 27: I know he's time and time again he's talked about

1171
01:00:51,267 --> 01:00:55,667
Speaker 27: really really you know, getting behind the international window. And

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Speaker 27: then they do fund a lot of those international competitions

1173
01:00:58,187 --> 01:01:02,387
Speaker 27: and and so forth, and they do have you know,

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01:01:03,147 --> 01:01:07,027
Speaker 27: scalps and and and and they're paying for people to

1175
01:01:07,067 --> 01:01:09,307
Speaker 27: set up academies and so forth in the Pacific Islands

1176
01:01:09,307 --> 01:01:13,027
Speaker 27: and Fiji, Sama and Thomas. So absolutely one hundred percent

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Speaker 27: they are behind it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair point, fair point. Yeah, So can can you

1179
01:01:17,827 --> 01:01:20,747
Speaker 3: say what just why? I've got your ANTC test so

1180
01:01:20,787 --> 01:01:22,707
Speaker 3: you reckon that that has got a future?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I.

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01:01:26,867 --> 01:01:29,907
Speaker 27: Just can't believe they did. I think it will come back.

1183
01:01:29,907 --> 01:01:34,147
Speaker 27: And they did a hurry up because I said, you know,

1184
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Speaker 27: I think Rugby Union are looking at that their option,

1185
01:01:37,707 --> 01:01:40,467
Speaker 27: you know, just another thing they'll copy. But you know,

1186
01:01:40,987 --> 01:01:43,667
Speaker 27: it's it's it was such a fantastic occasion.

1187
01:01:45,947 --> 01:01:50,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreefl Yeah, no, like anyway, I mean, anytime we

1188
01:01:50,547 --> 01:01:52,587
Speaker 3: play these strangers and anything. But yeah, I just I

1189
01:01:52,627 --> 01:01:54,707
Speaker 3: couldn't believe it's been seven years. Like if you said

1190
01:01:54,707 --> 01:01:55,747
Speaker 3: to my old wimen's the last one I was in

1191
01:01:55,827 --> 01:01:57,747
Speaker 3: it maybe two or three years ago. Seven years since

1192
01:01:57,747 --> 01:02:04,987
Speaker 3: we had one mental Hello, Steve, how are you good?

1193
01:02:04,987 --> 01:02:05,267
Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 8: I think the state of origin should be should be everything,

1195
01:02:10,547 --> 01:02:13,667
Speaker 8: like all the sum owned players and a strategy directors.

1196
01:02:13,707 --> 01:02:16,867
Speaker 8: Some are all the siegi's everything. And I think that

1197
01:02:16,987 --> 01:02:20,307
Speaker 8: would be a perfect game because then there'd be good

1198
01:02:20,307 --> 01:02:23,227
Speaker 8: games all around. Otherwise, there's only three or four countries

1199
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Speaker 8: that play league in the world that would be competitive

1200
01:02:26,067 --> 01:02:29,947
Speaker 8: for anything. So well, the ass the AUSSI is the

1201
01:02:30,107 --> 01:02:32,987
Speaker 8: best by long shot. That's why it should be split

1202
01:02:33,027 --> 01:02:37,067
Speaker 8: to Queensland and New South Wales playing tests against all

1203
01:02:37,067 --> 01:02:38,107
Speaker 8: the state of origins.

1204
01:02:38,427 --> 01:02:40,867
Speaker 3: I see what you mean, Okay, so yeah, yeah, I

1205
01:02:40,907 --> 01:02:43,827
Speaker 3: got just so okay, so stut of origin. So effectively

1206
01:02:43,867 --> 01:02:47,507
Speaker 3: there's no Australian team, there's New Zealand, Fiji, Tonga, New

1207
01:02:47,547 --> 01:02:48,827
Speaker 3: South Wales and Queensland.

1208
01:02:49,587 --> 01:02:51,507
Speaker 8: That would make it a hell a lot more competitive.

1209
01:02:51,547 --> 01:02:53,907
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that's not a bad idea, Steve. I

1210
01:02:53,947 --> 01:02:56,547
Speaker 3: don't think they'd go for it, but yeah, yeah, look

1211
01:02:56,787 --> 01:02:59,907
Speaker 3: imagine the key he's playing New South Wales Keys playing Queensland.

1212
01:02:59,947 --> 01:03:02,707
Speaker 3: That would be cool. Clearly we'd like to play against Astralia.

1213
01:03:02,867 --> 01:03:05,147
Speaker 3: That's you know, big brother, little brother and all that.

1214
01:03:05,267 --> 01:03:08,827
Speaker 3: But yeah, maybe there's the germ of an idea there.

1215
01:03:09,187 --> 01:03:13,787
Speaker 3: John Heimat, Yeah, I am hello, Yeah, Hi John.

1216
01:03:15,187 --> 01:03:15,347
Speaker 28: Good.

1217
01:03:15,387 --> 01:03:16,907
Speaker 14: Hey, how are you very good?

1218
01:03:16,947 --> 01:03:18,227
Speaker 3: John? Very good? What's on your mind?

1219
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Speaker 14: Well, I've got a couple of things. First of all,

1220
01:03:22,307 --> 01:03:25,627
Speaker 14: I'd love to see the you know what has been suggested,

1221
01:03:26,107 --> 01:03:29,987
Speaker 14: the Key is playing New South Wales, Queensland or whatever.

1222
01:03:30,547 --> 01:03:32,547
Speaker 14: But I think there's another angle. I mean, I know

1223
01:03:32,627 --> 01:03:35,187
Speaker 14: New Zealanders that have been over there for thirty forty

1224
01:03:35,267 --> 01:03:39,987
Speaker 14: years and their number one interest and is to their

1225
01:03:40,027 --> 01:03:44,027
Speaker 14: particular league clubs. It's more important than anything else. It's

1226
01:03:44,067 --> 01:03:49,507
Speaker 14: the same in the North of England rugby league. In

1227
01:03:49,547 --> 01:03:52,267
Speaker 14: the North of England New Wagons and Huddersfield and all

1228
01:03:52,267 --> 01:03:55,787
Speaker 14: the rest of it. It's just like English soccer. It's

1229
01:03:55,787 --> 01:03:59,947
Speaker 14: their whole life. And that's another thing you've got already overcome.

1230
01:04:02,027 --> 01:04:02,347
Speaker 9: You know.

1231
01:04:04,307 --> 01:04:07,347
Speaker 14: A friend of mine, she speaks to their daughters from

1232
01:04:07,347 --> 01:04:10,987
Speaker 14: Ossie every week, and you know that they're more interested

1233
01:04:11,187 --> 01:04:13,627
Speaker 14: in the rugby league than they are in the Orblacks.

1234
01:04:13,667 --> 01:04:17,467
Speaker 14: They watch the or Rats. But that's my opinion anyway.

1235
01:04:17,827 --> 01:04:21,627
Speaker 14: That's the thing, you know, they love their para matters

1236
01:04:21,627 --> 01:04:28,347
Speaker 14: and I mean not everybody has a great life, particularly

1237
01:04:28,427 --> 01:04:33,187
Speaker 14: in the North of England, and you know, I think

1238
01:04:33,907 --> 01:04:36,867
Speaker 14: the clubs are their whole life. Same with a lot

1239
01:04:36,867 --> 01:04:39,467
Speaker 14: of the soccer people in England and that.

1240
01:04:41,027 --> 01:04:43,027
Speaker 3: Anyway, Now it's a good opinion, John, Thank you for

1241
01:04:43,107 --> 01:04:45,787
Speaker 3: voicing it. I appreciate it very much. Yeah. Look, football

1242
01:04:45,827 --> 01:04:47,187
Speaker 3: in England, as we all know, is very much a

1243
01:04:47,187 --> 01:04:49,707
Speaker 3: working class sport. And yeah, maybe in the North of England,

1244
01:04:49,707 --> 01:04:53,627
Speaker 3: with where rugby league is extremely popular, is is similar

1245
01:04:53,747 --> 01:04:56,347
Speaker 3: than that. You know, you work hard and pretty grim

1246
01:04:56,387 --> 01:04:59,347
Speaker 3: conditions for many of these people. As you just said, John,

1247
01:04:59,347 --> 01:05:02,427
Speaker 3: not everyone's got a great life, but their escape, their

1248
01:05:02,467 --> 01:05:05,867
Speaker 3: reward at the weekend is following their team. And yeah,

1249
01:05:05,907 --> 01:05:10,987
Speaker 3: and look you also referenced, you know people living in Australia. Now,

1250
01:05:11,027 --> 01:05:14,307
Speaker 3: when people go to Australia, they do they get caught

1251
01:05:14,387 --> 01:05:17,027
Speaker 3: up in whatever it is that they land in. Sports wise,

1252
01:05:17,187 --> 01:05:19,107
Speaker 3: made of Mine was a huge football and rugby fan.

1253
01:05:19,147 --> 01:05:20,867
Speaker 3: He is an Australia. Now all he talks about is

1254
01:05:20,907 --> 01:05:24,227
Speaker 3: Ossie rules. That's all he talks about now. But then

1255
01:05:24,267 --> 01:05:26,387
Speaker 3: that's just a product the environment, right, that's just a

1256
01:05:26,387 --> 01:05:28,427
Speaker 3: product of the environment. If you land in New South Wales,

1257
01:05:28,707 --> 01:05:30,427
Speaker 3: chances are you going to be an NRL fan. You're

1258
01:05:30,427 --> 01:05:32,187
Speaker 3: going to latch onto one of the teams over there.

1259
01:05:32,707 --> 01:05:35,427
Speaker 3: Just on twenty seven to two Bunnings in PC quarter

1260
01:05:35,467 --> 01:05:39,027
Speaker 3: final weekends for thank you Andy Bunning's MPC quarter Final

1261
01:05:39,067 --> 01:05:42,187
Speaker 3: number two. This afternoon, Bay of Plenty Hawks Bay tod

1262
01:05:42,227 --> 01:05:45,307
Speaker 3: on the domain five past two catch a live commentary

1263
01:05:45,347 --> 01:05:49,507
Speaker 3: on gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Bay of Plenty CEO Mike

1264
01:05:49,627 --> 01:05:53,187
Speaker 3: Rodgers is with us. A stunning day in the Bay,

1265
01:05:53,387 --> 01:05:54,027
Speaker 3: no doubt, is it.

1266
01:05:54,107 --> 01:05:57,627
Speaker 15: Mike, get a pony, here's toys nice here, you know that.

1267
01:05:57,707 --> 01:06:00,827
Speaker 15: So we'll tune it on again for hopefully a fantastic

1268
01:06:00,827 --> 01:06:01,387
Speaker 15: game of footy.

1269
01:06:01,947 --> 01:06:02,787
Speaker 3: Are you confident?

1270
01:06:05,307 --> 01:06:06,307
Speaker 4: Look, it's always a great.

1271
01:06:06,507 --> 01:06:09,147
Speaker 15: Against the other Bay, so I think it should be

1272
01:06:09,187 --> 01:06:11,107
Speaker 15: a fantastic game of footy. But yeah, we've got a

1273
01:06:11,547 --> 01:06:14,507
Speaker 15: you know, we've got a level of confidence going into

1274
01:06:14,547 --> 01:06:16,347
Speaker 15: the game because the boys have played well all seasons.

1275
01:06:16,387 --> 01:06:18,307
Speaker 15: But you never know when it comes to playoff games.

1276
01:06:18,587 --> 01:06:21,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you did right there. Obviously it's a one off,

1277
01:06:21,347 --> 01:06:23,987
Speaker 3: but you look at the way the team come into

1278
01:06:24,187 --> 01:06:27,067
Speaker 3: the quarter finals, last five games, four wins, that golden

1279
01:06:27,107 --> 01:06:30,067
Speaker 3: point loss to Wellington. You're in pretty good form, aren't you.

1280
01:06:31,547 --> 01:06:31,747
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1281
01:06:31,747 --> 01:06:32,147
Speaker 10: I think so.

1282
01:06:32,187 --> 01:06:33,907
Speaker 15: Look, we've been lucky that we haven't been hit bay

1283
01:06:33,947 --> 01:06:36,467
Speaker 15: the injury bug too much this season, and that's really important,

1284
01:06:37,267 --> 01:06:39,307
Speaker 15: you know, having all your best players out on the paddock.

1285
01:06:39,347 --> 01:06:41,227
Speaker 15: So we've been able to do that. But look, it's

1286
01:06:41,227 --> 01:06:43,587
Speaker 15: been a fantastic competition all the way around, and so

1287
01:06:43,627 --> 01:06:46,187
Speaker 15: we've got the wins, but there've been some bloody, tough games.

1288
01:06:46,267 --> 01:06:48,507
Speaker 15: So yeah, we're just we're lucky where we are and

1289
01:06:48,507 --> 01:06:49,867
Speaker 15: hopefully we can get one more wins.

1290
01:06:50,067 --> 01:06:51,627
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you that about the MPC

1291
01:06:51,747 --> 01:06:53,547
Speaker 3: as a whole, because that's the feeling I get as well.

1292
01:06:53,547 --> 01:06:55,587
Speaker 3: There's been a real sense of jeopardy from week to week.

1293
01:06:55,627 --> 01:06:57,467
Speaker 3: You don't know who's going to beat who. Teams are

1294
01:06:57,467 --> 01:07:00,187
Speaker 3: putting fifty on other teams. I look at my team Wellington,

1295
01:07:00,347 --> 01:07:02,307
Speaker 3: we lost the Counties two weeks ago and they put

1296
01:07:02,307 --> 01:07:04,547
Speaker 3: fifty on us ahead of the quarter final last night,

1297
01:07:04,547 --> 01:07:06,907
Speaker 3: which we actually got up and won. Do you sense

1298
01:07:06,947 --> 01:07:10,107
Speaker 3: that that there's a jeopardy and evenness, an unpredictability about

1299
01:07:10,187 --> 01:07:11,067
Speaker 3: MPC at the moment.

1300
01:07:12,227 --> 01:07:14,947
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely. I think this year's competition has been one

1301
01:07:14,987 --> 01:07:18,307
Speaker 15: of the best for a number of years. And that's

1302
01:07:18,347 --> 01:07:21,467
Speaker 15: what's great about this competition that we've got so many

1303
01:07:21,667 --> 01:07:25,227
Speaker 15: good players coming through, you know, mixing with some of

1304
01:07:25,227 --> 01:07:27,867
Speaker 15: our fantastic super rugby players. So yeah, it has been

1305
01:07:27,907 --> 01:07:31,907
Speaker 15: fantastic and looking forward to another good weekend of Ruggy awesome.

1306
01:07:31,907 --> 01:07:31,987
Speaker 21: Now.

1307
01:07:31,987 --> 01:07:34,387
Speaker 3: I think Pasilio Tossi he was released to play for you,

1308
01:07:34,507 --> 01:07:36,867
Speaker 3: wasn't he. But he's been ruled out. Is that the case?

1309
01:07:37,947 --> 01:07:40,227
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right. He's picked up a little negel during

1310
01:07:40,227 --> 01:07:43,467
Speaker 15: the week, so we're just advice of the medical team

1311
01:07:43,547 --> 01:07:45,467
Speaker 15: is just to rest him. So yeah, but we're a

1312
01:07:45,507 --> 01:07:47,987
Speaker 15: great opportunity for some of our younger players coming through

1313
01:07:48,067 --> 01:07:51,027
Speaker 15: and disappointing not to have Cossie, but he's here today

1314
01:07:51,107 --> 01:07:53,507
Speaker 15: supporting the boys and so yeah, hopefully the boys can

1315
01:07:53,507 --> 01:07:54,227
Speaker 15: get it done for him.

1316
01:07:54,467 --> 01:07:56,347
Speaker 3: He'll probably be more popular than some of the people

1317
01:07:56,347 --> 01:07:57,827
Speaker 3: on the field. He's a good man, isn't he.

1318
01:07:58,667 --> 01:07:59,147
Speaker 4: I was just.

1319
01:07:59,147 --> 01:08:01,467
Speaker 15: Walking around the perimeter with him and he couldn't walk

1320
01:08:01,587 --> 01:08:03,947
Speaker 15: two meters without on stopping. He wanted to have a chat.

1321
01:08:03,947 --> 01:08:06,747
Speaker 15: But he's such a good blot that he talked anyone.

1322
01:08:07,387 --> 01:08:09,667
Speaker 15: Luckily he did the right for the pie eating competition

1323
01:08:09,707 --> 01:08:12,987
Speaker 15: earlier today, So I think the your breaks will be

1324
01:08:12,987 --> 01:08:13,707
Speaker 15: happy about that.

1325
01:08:15,027 --> 01:08:17,507
Speaker 3: And the eventual winner of that competition probably as well.

1326
01:08:17,707 --> 01:08:22,627
Speaker 3: Just on representative stuff. Mike Mony, Nadawa, Kurt Ecklands, Nato

1327
01:08:22,787 --> 01:08:25,107
Speaker 3: are Koy all in the All Blacks fifteen. Of course

1328
01:08:25,107 --> 01:08:27,627
Speaker 3: they'll head off in the near future. That must make

1329
01:08:27,627 --> 01:08:30,827
Speaker 3: you proud to see represented representation in that squad too.

1330
01:08:31,827 --> 01:08:34,467
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, yeah, we're really delighted for our players, and

1331
01:08:34,467 --> 01:08:37,187
Speaker 15: that's a big part of what MPC and Provincial RUGBIA

1332
01:08:37,387 --> 01:08:39,627
Speaker 15: is about. Our job is to try and put the

1333
01:08:39,787 --> 01:08:41,827
Speaker 15: players out there in the spotlight and give him an

1334
01:08:41,827 --> 01:08:45,107
Speaker 15: opportunity to demonstrate how good they are and then hopefully

1335
01:08:45,107 --> 01:08:47,147
Speaker 15: they get packed up for higher honors. So yeah, we're

1336
01:08:47,187 --> 01:08:49,547
Speaker 15: really pleased with all of those boys getting the opportunity

1337
01:08:49,787 --> 01:08:50,427
Speaker 15: later in the year.

1338
01:08:51,267 --> 01:08:54,467
Speaker 3: What's your understanding like around the availability those guys if

1339
01:08:54,467 --> 01:08:56,587
Speaker 3: you go right through to the Grand Final, for example,

1340
01:08:56,667 --> 01:08:59,987
Speaker 3: will you have guys like a Monique kurt Nator all

1341
01:09:00,027 --> 01:09:02,467
Speaker 3: the way through? Will you have them the whole time?

1342
01:09:03,547 --> 01:09:05,587
Speaker 15: That's our understanding yet that they'll be able to play

1343
01:09:05,667 --> 01:09:07,827
Speaker 15: right through to the finals. And I think if you

1344
01:09:07,867 --> 01:09:09,427
Speaker 15: ask the boys, they want to be able to play

1345
01:09:09,467 --> 01:09:12,947
Speaker 15: right through to the finals. They really enjoyed this competition

1346
01:09:13,227 --> 01:09:15,747
Speaker 15: and so yeah, that's our understanding. So hopefully works out

1347
01:09:15,787 --> 01:09:17,227
Speaker 15: and we do make the final and we did to

1348
01:09:17,227 --> 01:09:17,747
Speaker 15: have them there.

1349
01:09:18,467 --> 01:09:20,307
Speaker 3: What sort of crowd are you expecting today.

1350
01:09:21,187 --> 01:09:23,747
Speaker 15: Yeah, a finiest building that says you can hear probably

1351
01:09:23,747 --> 01:09:26,147
Speaker 15: in the background that there is a great atmosphere going on.

1352
01:09:26,787 --> 01:09:27,867
Speaker 22: He's probably about five.

1353
01:09:27,707 --> 01:09:30,307
Speaker 15: To six thousand people here today are pretty fact cut

1354
01:09:30,307 --> 01:09:32,507
Speaker 15: on a domain, so it should be a great atmosphere.

1355
01:09:33,507 --> 01:09:35,307
Speaker 3: Good man, Mike, thanks for chatting to us. Made I

1356
01:09:35,307 --> 01:09:37,027
Speaker 3: know you're busy. I appreciate you taking our call.

1357
01:09:37,107 --> 01:09:39,987
Speaker 15: All the best this afternoon, Yeah, nor mate, thanks for

1358
01:09:39,987 --> 01:09:40,627
Speaker 15: all your supports.

1359
01:09:40,947 --> 01:09:42,747
Speaker 3: Good on you, Mike. Thanks to Dave. Mike Rodgers there,

1360
01:09:42,867 --> 01:09:46,267
Speaker 3: he's the CEO of baf P d Rugby. Good occasion

1361
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:48,907
Speaker 3: this afternoon, as they all will be, you know. And

1362
01:09:48,987 --> 01:09:51,707
Speaker 3: I think the MPC has been good this year. We

1363
01:09:51,827 --> 01:09:54,107
Speaker 3: talked about reading the pulse of the sporting public last

1364
01:09:54,147 --> 01:09:56,827
Speaker 3: hour around the America's Cup. I I read the pulse

1365
01:09:56,867 --> 01:09:59,987
Speaker 3: of the of the New Zealand rugby public. I think

1366
01:10:00,067 --> 01:10:02,987
Speaker 3: most people have really enjoyed the MPC. Yes, we might

1367
01:10:03,027 --> 01:10:05,067
Speaker 3: not be turning up in massive numbers, but that was

1368
01:10:05,147 --> 01:10:08,107
Speaker 3: never the case anyway. But then at a place like

1369
01:10:08,147 --> 01:10:10,587
Speaker 3: todng of this afternoon, and I'm sure blend him tomorrow

1370
01:10:10,667 --> 01:10:13,747
Speaker 3: when Tasman host Canterbury, and tonight at Eero Stadium, when

1371
01:10:13,787 --> 01:10:16,507
Speaker 3: Tadanhaki take on Waycuttle. I think that you know there

1372
01:10:16,587 --> 01:10:21,667
Speaker 3: is real interest in because you don't actually know. Last night,

1373
01:10:21,747 --> 01:10:25,747
Speaker 3: like I say, my Wellington boys up against Counties, you think, well,

1374
01:10:25,867 --> 01:10:29,507
Speaker 3: you know, table position would tell you Wellington top County's eighth,

1375
01:10:29,907 --> 01:10:32,547
Speaker 3: that Wellington win that game, you know, and they did,

1376
01:10:32,707 --> 01:10:36,947
Speaker 3: But two weeks ago Counties put fifty on us. You know,

1377
01:10:37,227 --> 01:10:42,987
Speaker 3: it's crazy the different storylines that have played out. And look,

1378
01:10:43,547 --> 01:10:45,467
Speaker 3: it's not everybody's cup of tea, of course, it's not.

1379
01:10:45,467 --> 01:10:48,707
Speaker 3: Not everybody loves the MPC. But I'm enjoying it. I'm

1380
01:10:48,747 --> 01:10:50,947
Speaker 3: loving it. We'll have eyes on that game for you

1381
01:10:50,987 --> 01:10:53,427
Speaker 3: this afternoon. There's a commentary for you, as I say

1382
01:10:53,707 --> 01:10:56,667
Speaker 3: on gold Sport and iHeartRadio of Bay of plenty Hawks Bay,

1383
01:10:56,987 --> 01:10:58,507
Speaker 3: who's got the call for that one? And is it

1384
01:10:58,587 --> 01:11:02,307
Speaker 3: Malcolm Jordan and Gregor Paul This after Nathan Limb and Gregor.

1385
01:11:02,907 --> 01:11:06,907
Speaker 3: Nathan Limb's on the mic with Gregor Paul Intestic, you

1386
01:11:06,987 --> 01:11:09,587
Speaker 3: have commentators. Well, I just think to myself, that's a

1387
01:11:09,587 --> 01:11:14,427
Speaker 3: perfect pair, a perfect pair. Later on tonight five past seven,

1388
01:11:14,787 --> 01:11:17,907
Speaker 3: Tallerlucky White Cattle, and then tomorrow the games and blend

1389
01:11:17,987 --> 01:11:21,667
Speaker 3: them that game tomorrow, Andy, I would that that would

1390
01:11:21,707 --> 01:11:25,547
Speaker 3: have been a choice, wouldn't it, Because the quarterfinals aren't

1391
01:11:25,587 --> 01:11:27,227
Speaker 3: kind of marked out in advance, so they wonder why

1392
01:11:27,227 --> 01:11:29,067
Speaker 3: they've taken that to Blenham. Just part of the shared

1393
01:11:29,147 --> 01:11:33,547
Speaker 3: custody that that that the region the top of the

1394
01:11:33,587 --> 01:11:36,667
Speaker 3: South have over over over the Tesman market.

1395
01:11:36,747 --> 01:11:38,707
Speaker 29: Now, I've lived in both places, so I don't actually mind.

1396
01:11:38,747 --> 01:11:41,147
Speaker 29: Both both good places. I've spent more time in Nelson's.

1397
01:11:41,147 --> 01:11:43,827
Speaker 29: I would have liked that, but no, No, Lansdowne Park

1398
01:11:43,947 --> 01:11:45,267
Speaker 29: is a fantastic rugby ground.

1399
01:11:45,267 --> 01:11:47,227
Speaker 3: Piney. Have you been there? Well no, I haven't, but

1400
01:11:47,267 --> 01:11:49,507
Speaker 3: I know my Wellington lines were there recently and couldn't

1401
01:11:49,547 --> 01:11:50,347
Speaker 3: take the shield home.

1402
01:11:50,787 --> 01:11:53,667
Speaker 29: So maybe let's just think about those days and nothing

1403
01:11:53,707 --> 01:11:56,907
Speaker 29: about the most recent, the most recent shield challenge?

1404
01:11:56,907 --> 01:11:59,227
Speaker 3: Shall we actually do you think that might be part

1405
01:11:59,227 --> 01:12:04,547
Speaker 3: of it? That the last time they played at Trafalga Park,

1406
01:12:05,107 --> 01:12:08,187
Speaker 3: they relinquished the sheep to Taranaki. The last time they

1407
01:12:08,187 --> 01:12:12,187
Speaker 3: played in Blenham they were very good against the Wellington lines.

1408
01:12:12,187 --> 01:12:14,627
Speaker 3: Do you think maybe that's that's part of the reasoning.

1409
01:12:14,747 --> 01:12:18,027
Speaker 3: I think that was the Blendham game was already scheduled.

1410
01:12:18,147 --> 01:12:21,667
Speaker 29: All that, so okay, I couldn't tell you, but I

1411
01:12:21,707 --> 01:12:24,187
Speaker 29: mean that, And that was part of a two shield

1412
01:12:24,187 --> 01:12:26,947
Speaker 29: defenses in four days which check TRAVELI the Taranaki coach

1413
01:12:27,027 --> 01:12:29,347
Speaker 29: even mentioned when they took the shield, saying that that

1414
01:12:29,427 --> 01:12:30,667
Speaker 29: was pretty tough, so I thought that.

1415
01:12:30,707 --> 01:12:32,827
Speaker 3: Was cool of him anyway, but it was. Yeah, I

1416
01:12:33,147 --> 01:12:35,467
Speaker 3: think they still took the shield with them though they did.

1417
01:12:35,827 --> 01:12:39,027
Speaker 3: They did, he didn't say, look, it's very tough on Tasman.

1418
01:12:39,227 --> 01:12:41,347
Speaker 3: You keep it. Let's move on from this, shall we puny?

1419
01:12:41,667 --> 01:12:43,987
Speaker 3: All right? Then twenty to two, let's take a break,

1420
01:12:43,987 --> 01:12:46,227
Speaker 3: come back and talk to Adam Peacock from Australia.

1421
01:12:47,547 --> 01:12:51,947
Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eighty Weekends

1422
01:12:51,947 --> 01:12:56,307
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pine and GJ. Guvnerholmes, New Zealand's most

1423
01:12:56,347 --> 01:12:58,307
Speaker 1: trusted home builder News Dogs'd be.

1424
01:12:59,027 --> 01:13:01,547
Speaker 3: Six and a half to two. Text here, how good

1425
01:13:01,587 --> 01:13:04,187
Speaker 3: are the quarterfinal matchups Battle of the Bays Big brother,

1426
01:13:04,307 --> 01:13:07,227
Speaker 3: little brother, Canterbury Tasman. Although test and I feel like

1427
01:13:07,267 --> 01:13:09,667
Speaker 3: Tasman are the Tasman are like the little brother who's

1428
01:13:09,667 --> 01:13:14,467
Speaker 3: got better than the big brother. That's what's happened in

1429
01:13:14,507 --> 01:13:19,147
Speaker 3: that relationship. They are now the talented little brother who

1430
01:13:19,547 --> 01:13:22,747
Speaker 3: are favorite to beat their big brother. So I feel

1431
01:13:22,747 --> 01:13:24,867
Speaker 3: like Canterburre are underdogs going up to blen him. And

1432
01:13:24,867 --> 01:13:29,667
Speaker 3: then the Chiefs Derby White Cuta Taranaki tadadhaky really Chiefs country?

1433
01:13:30,067 --> 01:13:31,347
Speaker 3: Is that really Chiefs Country?

1434
01:13:32,427 --> 01:13:32,587
Speaker 6: Oh?

1435
01:13:32,627 --> 01:13:35,427
Speaker 3: The Barretts are there. I feel like it's hurricanes country. Anyway,

1436
01:13:35,707 --> 01:13:38,587
Speaker 3: we digress, Let's get you across the Tasman. Adam Peacock

1437
01:13:38,707 --> 01:13:42,347
Speaker 3: is our Australian correspondent. He joins us now Adam. The

1438
01:13:42,387 --> 01:13:47,067
Speaker 3: Melbourne Rebels this week launched a thirty million dollar lawsuit

1439
01:13:48,227 --> 01:13:51,947
Speaker 3: against Rugby Australia for dissolving the franchise after last year's

1440
01:13:51,947 --> 01:13:55,867
Speaker 3: financial collapse. Always a little bit unfortunate when things go

1441
01:13:55,987 --> 01:13:57,987
Speaker 3: off the grass and into the courtroom. Has this got

1442
01:13:57,987 --> 01:13:58,547
Speaker 3: any legs?

1443
01:13:58,547 --> 01:14:01,627
Speaker 30: Though? I don't know, because I'm not a lawyer. I

1444
01:14:01,627 --> 01:14:05,587
Speaker 30: don't wear one of those fantcy weeks I'm not sure

1445
01:14:05,587 --> 01:14:08,867
Speaker 30: because Rubia's unter put it in an application to counter

1446
01:14:08,907 --> 01:14:11,987
Speaker 30: seal and lead to Believe, saying that the Melbourne Revels

1447
01:14:12,027 --> 01:14:16,187
Speaker 30: directors misled them about the true state of their finances.

1448
01:14:16,227 --> 01:14:20,347
Speaker 30: So look, it's a sign of a code and in

1449
01:14:20,347 --> 01:14:22,507
Speaker 30: particular in this case not in rude health, if you

1450
01:14:22,547 --> 01:14:26,427
Speaker 30: know what I mean. It's not unreal that you're dragging

1451
01:14:26,427 --> 01:14:31,467
Speaker 30: yourself through courts to work out firstly who was in

1452
01:14:31,507 --> 01:14:34,787
Speaker 30: the wrong here and secondly what the competition might look

1453
01:14:34,867 --> 01:14:38,347
Speaker 30: like because now TV rights are sneaking up in terms

1454
01:14:38,427 --> 01:14:41,947
Speaker 30: of renewals and such or going to market and they

1455
01:14:41,987 --> 01:14:45,667
Speaker 30: don't know what like if the Melbourne Revels like win

1456
01:14:45,747 --> 01:14:48,547
Speaker 30: their way back through the courts into a situation where

1457
01:14:48,547 --> 01:14:50,267
Speaker 30: they're back in the competition, what is it for rugby

1458
01:14:50,267 --> 01:14:54,427
Speaker 30: look like from twenty six onwards. So it's all up

1459
01:14:54,467 --> 01:14:57,347
Speaker 30: in the air and something that Rugby Australia definitely could

1460
01:14:57,707 --> 01:15:00,747
Speaker 30: do without. And it only serves as one thing. The

1461
01:15:00,827 --> 01:15:02,747
Speaker 30: rugby community as a whole look at it and go

1462
01:15:02,827 --> 01:15:06,107
Speaker 30: what are you guys doing and just get self deflating

1463
01:15:06,107 --> 01:15:07,947
Speaker 30: about it. So yeah, a mess.

1464
01:15:08,147 --> 01:15:09,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you and I work in the industry,

1465
01:15:09,987 --> 01:15:12,547
Speaker 3: the sports industry where winning and losing is you know,

1466
01:15:12,627 --> 01:15:14,547
Speaker 3: as part of the course. They don't seem to be

1467
01:15:14,547 --> 01:15:17,107
Speaker 3: any winners here apart from the lawyers, I.

1468
01:15:17,107 --> 01:15:22,347
Speaker 30: Guess, yeah yeah. And obviously Melbourne Rebels and the people

1469
01:15:22,387 --> 01:15:26,187
Speaker 30: running that club feel a grief, greatly aggrieves about it.

1470
01:15:26,227 --> 01:15:30,267
Speaker 30: So and Rugby Australia I can only get through counters

1471
01:15:30,387 --> 01:15:31,787
Speaker 30: them like that. It just s grassing their hair going.

1472
01:15:31,987 --> 01:15:36,227
Speaker 30: I mean, it is all your fault. So yeah, I

1473
01:15:36,267 --> 01:15:37,947
Speaker 30: can't think of another word other than the one I

1474
01:15:38,027 --> 01:15:39,107
Speaker 30: just used, and that's mess.

1475
01:15:39,267 --> 01:15:41,627
Speaker 3: All right, Let's get on to some actual sport. They

1476
01:15:41,667 --> 01:15:45,107
Speaker 3: call it the Great Race Mount Panorama, Bathurst on this weekend.

1477
01:15:45,187 --> 01:15:48,867
Speaker 3: Does Bethist still get mainstream cut through on your side

1478
01:15:48,907 --> 01:15:49,427
Speaker 3: of the testament?

1479
01:15:50,587 --> 01:15:53,067
Speaker 30: Yeah, it's honest, I reckon. It's as big as the

1480
01:15:53,467 --> 01:15:57,627
Speaker 30: House in days of Peter Brown, Dick Johnson for v

1481
01:15:57,787 --> 01:16:00,387
Speaker 30: Hold and all of that. But it's still a mammoth event.

1482
01:16:00,467 --> 01:16:03,547
Speaker 30: It's still going to go well on TV and have

1483
01:16:03,667 --> 01:16:06,027
Speaker 30: a huge crowd up there. So what a couple of

1484
01:16:06,027 --> 01:16:09,067
Speaker 30: weeks Bathist that had. Last weekend they had the Curry

1485
01:16:09,107 --> 01:16:12,307
Speaker 30: knocked out. All the indigenous rugby league teams going out

1486
01:16:12,307 --> 01:16:15,147
Speaker 30: and play a footy Carnival and then this week they've

1487
01:16:15,147 --> 01:16:18,187
Speaker 30: got everyone filling up the mountain up there and enjoying

1488
01:16:18,227 --> 01:16:22,227
Speaker 30: themselves as they do the matter racing fans. So yeah,

1489
01:16:22,467 --> 01:16:26,427
Speaker 30: it's big, it's it's different like everything else is in sport.

1490
01:16:26,507 --> 01:16:29,507
Speaker 30: But yeah, and it comes on a free weekend, doesn't

1491
01:16:29,547 --> 01:16:33,627
Speaker 30: it pioneer with international football? The footy codes are done,

1492
01:16:33,747 --> 01:16:36,027
Speaker 30: so yeah, this is a little gap in the calendar

1493
01:16:36,067 --> 01:16:37,347
Speaker 30: that they're taking advantage of them.

1494
01:16:37,387 --> 01:16:39,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard, I've heard it said that those who

1495
01:16:40,027 --> 01:16:43,627
Speaker 3: actually live in and around Bathurst aren't particularly enamored by

1496
01:16:43,667 --> 01:16:45,907
Speaker 3: the whole thing. I guess they are. I guess they're

1497
01:16:46,027 --> 01:16:48,227
Speaker 3: town and it really is just a town, doesn't It

1498
01:16:48,227 --> 01:16:50,987
Speaker 3: gets taken over once a year by thousands and thousands

1499
01:16:51,027 --> 01:16:53,107
Speaker 3: of people. Some of them probably just get out of Dodge.

1500
01:16:53,147 --> 01:16:55,147
Speaker 3: They get out of there, written there renting their house

1501
01:16:55,187 --> 01:16:57,747
Speaker 3: out for exorbitant amounts and then come back when it's

1502
01:16:57,787 --> 01:16:58,387
Speaker 3: all done.

1503
01:16:59,067 --> 01:17:01,987
Speaker 30: Yeah, yeah, probably that's the path I'd take if I

1504
01:17:02,027 --> 01:17:04,907
Speaker 30: lives up there. It's a beautiful town, Batters. It's a

1505
01:17:04,987 --> 01:17:08,507
Speaker 30: beautiful little country town and great little pubs and little

1506
01:17:08,547 --> 01:17:12,307
Speaker 30: cafes and restaurants. But it's good for the local economy.

1507
01:17:12,307 --> 01:17:14,867
Speaker 30: That's amazing, and yeah, I think I'm with you. May

1508
01:17:14,947 --> 01:17:17,067
Speaker 30: I reckon, I'd be a b being the light out

1509
01:17:17,067 --> 01:17:20,747
Speaker 30: of my house. And yeah, enjoying the enjoying the proceeds

1510
01:17:20,747 --> 01:17:21,267
Speaker 30: somewhere else.

1511
01:17:21,667 --> 01:17:24,667
Speaker 3: And finally to the soccer rus, Tony Popovich has taken

1512
01:17:24,667 --> 01:17:27,827
Speaker 3: over as head coach from Graham Arnold and his era,

1513
01:17:28,067 --> 01:17:29,667
Speaker 3: if you can call it, that is underway, with a

1514
01:17:29,747 --> 01:17:32,947
Speaker 3: three to one win over China and Adelaide during the week.

1515
01:17:33,707 --> 01:17:35,867
Speaker 3: I'm sure you caught the game or some of it.

1516
01:17:35,947 --> 01:17:38,827
Speaker 3: What was your reaction and what has the overall reaction

1517
01:17:38,987 --> 01:17:41,627
Speaker 3: been to the first game of the Tony Popovich era.

1518
01:17:42,667 --> 01:17:45,627
Speaker 30: Yeah, positive because it was a win and it was

1519
01:17:45,667 --> 01:17:48,547
Speaker 30: what needed to happen, and that was just win the game.

1520
01:17:49,787 --> 01:17:56,747
Speaker 30: Slightly not surprised, but happily. Yeah, eyebrows raised about how

1521
01:17:57,587 --> 01:17:59,787
Speaker 30: Tony Povits went about it and how the team played.

1522
01:17:59,827 --> 01:18:04,227
Speaker 30: They changed up their formation, they tried some quicker short

1523
01:18:04,267 --> 01:18:05,107
Speaker 30: passing stuff.

1524
01:18:05,987 --> 01:18:06,227
Speaker 26: It was that.

1525
01:18:06,387 --> 01:18:07,027
Speaker 30: She's good to watch.

1526
01:18:07,067 --> 01:18:07,187
Speaker 7: Now.

1527
01:18:07,227 --> 01:18:09,547
Speaker 30: The true test is going to come early next week

1528
01:18:09,587 --> 01:18:12,427
Speaker 30: when they played Japan in Japan, and that's the ultimate

1529
01:18:12,467 --> 01:18:15,787
Speaker 30: litmus test in this group. If we get something out

1530
01:18:15,827 --> 01:18:17,787
Speaker 30: of that, we're actually all of a sudden looking pretty

1531
01:18:17,787 --> 01:18:21,067
Speaker 30: good to get one of those top two spots. But yeah,

1532
01:18:21,067 --> 01:18:23,307
Speaker 30: it's a it's a totally different equation up there because

1533
01:18:23,387 --> 01:18:26,587
Speaker 30: China are totally out informed. There's rumors that are going

1534
01:18:26,627 --> 01:18:28,907
Speaker 30: to sack their coach. It's not a good picture there.

1535
01:18:28,947 --> 01:18:32,627
Speaker 30: But no, I was pleasantly surprised about how we went

1536
01:18:32,667 --> 01:18:33,387
Speaker 30: out of the orts.

1537
01:18:33,467 --> 01:18:36,467
Speaker 3: Go they in action, Yeah, they were, they beat They

1538
01:18:36,547 --> 01:18:40,707
Speaker 3: beat Tahiti yesterday. Three Nils So, as you know, Oceanny

1539
01:18:40,827 --> 01:18:44,107
Speaker 3: is a pretty small footballing pond. But in New Zealand

1540
01:18:44,187 --> 01:18:46,067
Speaker 3: got the job done. They don't have a second game

1541
01:18:46,067 --> 01:18:48,627
Speaker 3: in this window, two more in November, so yeah, they're

1542
01:18:48,627 --> 01:18:51,267
Speaker 3: off to a winning start. Actually chatting to captain Chris

1543
01:18:51,307 --> 01:18:55,747
Speaker 3: Wood very shortly, just back to the soccers. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

1544
01:18:55,787 --> 01:18:57,187
Speaker 3: what a man, what a man.

1545
01:18:57,347 --> 01:18:59,227
Speaker 30: Your castle legends.

1546
01:18:59,547 --> 01:19:02,027
Speaker 3: Yeah he's out forest now as you know, Adam, but

1547
01:19:02,067 --> 01:19:04,667
Speaker 3: you know it stays in the and the black and

1548
01:19:04,707 --> 01:19:07,267
Speaker 3: white are well documented too. To speak to the soccer

1549
01:19:07,267 --> 01:19:09,867
Speaker 3: who Speaking of players, I'll watch the game over here.

1550
01:19:10,067 --> 01:19:13,187
Speaker 3: Craig Goodwin's goal, another one out of the top drawer.

1551
01:19:13,507 --> 01:19:16,547
Speaker 3: Where is Craig Goodwin now? Among you know, is he

1552
01:19:16,587 --> 01:19:21,667
Speaker 3: approaching the status of one of your great soccer roots.

1553
01:19:21,027 --> 01:19:24,267
Speaker 30: Oh yeah, who's like it's a hard club to get

1554
01:19:24,267 --> 01:19:28,547
Speaker 30: into because Craig I think, coupled with been great for

1555
01:19:28,627 --> 01:19:30,627
Speaker 30: the soccer. Who's we kind of judge it on where

1556
01:19:30,667 --> 01:19:33,027
Speaker 30: you've been in club football as well. And now Craig

1557
01:19:33,067 --> 01:19:36,147
Speaker 30: hasn't played a big European club. You spent time over

1558
01:19:36,187 --> 01:19:39,307
Speaker 30: there in Holland. But yeah, what he does in that

1559
01:19:39,347 --> 01:19:44,067
Speaker 30: Soccaro shirt, I think, yeah, it's Kim Cahill made himself

1560
01:19:44,187 --> 01:19:48,147
Speaker 30: Australia's most famous Australian footballer by virtue of what he

1561
01:19:48,227 --> 01:19:51,067
Speaker 30: did in the Socceros shirt. Mainly scored a stack of

1562
01:19:51,107 --> 01:19:53,867
Speaker 30: goals for Everson, was fantastic in the Premier League, whereas

1563
01:19:53,867 --> 01:19:56,827
Speaker 30: Harry Curle is probably our best ever footballer we've produced,

1564
01:19:56,867 --> 01:20:00,507
Speaker 30: if not Mark Madooka. But you have that recognition because

1565
01:20:00,507 --> 01:20:01,907
Speaker 30: of what you're doing the gold Church. So I think

1566
01:20:01,947 --> 01:20:04,427
Speaker 30: Craig Goodwin it is going to be looked upon very

1567
01:20:04,467 --> 01:20:06,987
Speaker 30: finally if he keeps doing this and he's showing no

1568
01:20:07,107 --> 01:20:09,547
Speaker 30: signs of stopping playing at Saudi Arabia at the moment.

1569
01:20:09,667 --> 01:20:12,627
Speaker 30: But he's from a guy who got a late start

1570
01:20:12,667 --> 01:20:15,227
Speaker 30: to his professional career. He got a Hissley contract where

1571
01:20:15,267 --> 01:20:17,707
Speaker 30: he basically couldn't even afford to put petrol in his

1572
01:20:17,787 --> 01:20:20,787
Speaker 30: car where he's living in Melbourne. Ten years later he's

1573
01:20:20,787 --> 01:20:22,907
Speaker 30: played at Saudi Arabia doing that in front of forty

1574
01:20:22,947 --> 01:20:26,707
Speaker 30: thousand people in Adelaide. It's an incredible story and so

1575
01:20:26,827 --> 01:20:29,147
Speaker 30: happy for him and hopefully you can ping a few

1576
01:20:29,147 --> 01:20:33,067
Speaker 30: more throughout the course of this campaign because we need him.

1577
01:20:33,147 --> 01:20:33,347
Speaker 4: Yep.

1578
01:20:33,387 --> 01:20:35,747
Speaker 3: Seems like a top bloke as well. Adam is always

1579
01:20:35,747 --> 01:20:38,867
Speaker 3: thanks for your rap of Australian sporting matters. We'll do

1580
01:20:38,907 --> 01:20:41,627
Speaker 3: it again next Saturday. Sounds good mane thanks Adam. Adam

1581
01:20:41,627 --> 01:20:44,587
Speaker 3: Peacock there, get him across your social platforms. Just such

1582
01:20:44,627 --> 01:20:48,707
Speaker 3: his name. He's across all sorts of different different media

1583
01:20:48,907 --> 01:20:52,387
Speaker 3: platforms in Australia and joins us every Saturday afternoon at

1584
01:20:52,387 --> 01:20:54,187
Speaker 3: around one forty five here on news Talks here be

1585
01:20:54,427 --> 01:20:57,587
Speaker 3: just on nine away from two. Text on the origin

1586
01:20:57,987 --> 01:21:02,627
Speaker 3: and international rugby league conundrum that we've been chatting about, Jason.

1587
01:21:02,627 --> 01:21:05,387
Speaker 3: What if they played state of Origin every second year

1588
01:21:05,867 --> 01:21:09,507
Speaker 3: and played internationals during that window in alternative years, so

1589
01:21:09,627 --> 01:21:12,227
Speaker 3: you'd have state of Origin one year and internationals the next,

1590
01:21:12,227 --> 01:21:13,827
Speaker 3: and the players get arrest at the end. Of the season.

1591
01:21:14,827 --> 01:21:15,347
Speaker 22: I love it.

1592
01:21:15,827 --> 01:21:19,667
Speaker 3: Stateate of origin would hate it. Statur Origin fans again, Queensland,

1593
01:21:19,707 --> 01:21:24,387
Speaker 3: New South walf Wales fans. I'm almost sure I can

1594
01:21:24,427 --> 01:21:26,987
Speaker 3: say this without fear of contradiction. Don't care about international

1595
01:21:27,067 --> 01:21:30,467
Speaker 3: rugby league either. State of origin fans care about their

1596
01:21:30,587 --> 01:21:33,587
Speaker 3: NRL club and about their state and that's it. So

1597
01:21:33,627 --> 01:21:34,947
Speaker 3: if you said to them, hey, you know what, We're

1598
01:21:34,947 --> 01:21:36,547
Speaker 3: only going to have stut of origin every other year,

1599
01:21:37,227 --> 01:21:41,027
Speaker 3: they would not be best pleased about that. But to

1600
01:21:41,067 --> 01:21:44,147
Speaker 3: take it back, international rugby league has to be somewhere, right,

1601
01:21:44,667 --> 01:21:48,187
Speaker 3: has to be somewhere. It's just where, and it can't

1602
01:21:48,187 --> 01:21:50,347
Speaker 3: be an afterthought, which it feels like at the moment.

1603
01:21:50,987 --> 01:21:52,267
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you heard me say this before,

1604
01:21:52,267 --> 01:21:55,147
Speaker 3: but it'll be a year, a calendar year when the

1605
01:21:55,227 --> 01:21:57,987
Speaker 3: Keywis play Australia in the first match of the Pacific

1606
01:21:58,107 --> 01:22:00,667
Speaker 3: Nations Championship this year, since they played them in the

1607
01:22:00,667 --> 01:22:03,107
Speaker 3: final last year, a whole calendar year. How are you

1608
01:22:03,147 --> 01:22:07,187
Speaker 3: supposed to springboard off the momentum of of a thirty

1609
01:22:07,307 --> 01:22:10,227
Speaker 3: NIERL win three hundred and sixty five days later. I'm

1610
01:22:10,267 --> 01:22:11,747
Speaker 3: not sure that you can. Seven and a half to

1611
01:22:11,787 --> 01:22:12,587
Speaker 3: two News Talks Evy.

1612
01:22:14,267 --> 01:22:16,907
Speaker 1: Let's go from the track, fields and the course on

1613
01:22:17,027 --> 01:22:20,827
Speaker 1: your homes sort the weekend sport with Jason Vane. News

1614
01:22:20,867 --> 01:22:21,427
Speaker 1: Talks m B.

1615
01:22:22,107 --> 01:22:25,667
Speaker 3: Four to two afternoon, rushing by after the two o'clock

1616
01:22:25,747 --> 01:22:27,547
Speaker 3: news and case you missed it, there's quite a bit

1617
01:22:27,547 --> 01:22:29,107
Speaker 3: of stuff there that you might have missed. And then

1618
01:22:29,187 --> 01:22:32,667
Speaker 3: Chris Wood or White's captain. They're back in New Zealand

1619
01:22:32,707 --> 01:22:35,187
Speaker 3: for the first time and what feels like ages. They

1620
01:22:35,187 --> 01:22:37,467
Speaker 3: don't play here very often at all, but they are

1621
01:22:37,547 --> 01:22:40,907
Speaker 3: on Monday night against Malaysia at Albany. Chris Wood scored

1622
01:22:40,947 --> 01:22:43,627
Speaker 3: a goal yesterday as the All Whites beat Tahiti three

1623
01:22:43,787 --> 01:22:46,667
Speaker 3: nil to start their World Cup qualifying campaign. He's going

1624
01:22:46,707 --> 01:22:48,587
Speaker 3: to have a chat to us after two. The Great

1625
01:22:48,707 --> 01:22:51,667
Speaker 3: Race Baptist is on this weekend. Three keys in the

1626
01:22:51,667 --> 01:22:54,907
Speaker 3: top ten shootout for poll a bit later on, including

1627
01:22:54,907 --> 01:22:58,107
Speaker 3: Matt Payne who was fastest and qualifying motor racing journalist

1628
01:22:58,107 --> 01:23:01,827
Speaker 3: Simon Chapman on that and Rafa Nadal in the last

1629
01:23:01,987 --> 01:23:07,307
Speaker 3: few days has announced his tennis retirement and undisputed great

1630
01:23:07,827 --> 01:23:09,907
Speaker 3: of the game of tennis, and Graham A. Gars has

1631
01:23:09,947 --> 01:23:13,307
Speaker 3: seen plenty of that two decade long career. He's going

1632
01:23:13,307 --> 01:23:15,827
Speaker 3: to reflect on that with us after two o'clock as well.

1633
01:23:16,787 --> 01:23:21,067
Speaker 1: The only plays for the big names, the big issues,

1634
01:23:21,747 --> 01:23:26,707
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1635
01:23:26,787 --> 01:23:30,547
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

1636
01:23:31,027 --> 01:23:31,627
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1637
01:23:31,627 --> 01:23:31,907
Speaker 22: It'd be.

1638
01:23:33,667 --> 01:23:36,467
Speaker 3: Bang on two oh seven. They're underway in Todonger and

1639
01:23:36,547 --> 01:23:39,867
Speaker 3: Mike Rogers was right when we spoke to him half

1640
01:23:39,867 --> 01:23:41,787
Speaker 3: an hour or so ago. It is a nice day

1641
01:23:41,787 --> 01:23:44,467
Speaker 3: in Todonger, a nice day in the Bay as the

1642
01:23:44,507 --> 01:23:47,667
Speaker 3: other Bay Hawks, Bay who also have nice days, have

1643
01:23:47,827 --> 01:23:51,587
Speaker 3: come to the Todonger Domain to try and beat Bay

1644
01:23:51,587 --> 01:23:54,987
Speaker 3: of Plenty, who finished fourth in the MPC Hawks Bay

1645
01:23:54,987 --> 01:23:58,027
Speaker 3: were fifth for a place in the semi finals. There's

1646
01:23:58,027 --> 01:24:00,387
Speaker 3: a commentary on Goldsport and iHeartRadio. If you'd like to

1647
01:24:00,387 --> 01:24:02,387
Speaker 3: flick across to that or if you'd like to stay

1648
01:24:02,387 --> 01:24:04,387
Speaker 3: with us, then we'll certainly keep eyes on this for you.

1649
01:24:05,147 --> 01:24:09,227
Speaker 3: Good crowd too, good crowd at totong Of Domain Provincial Rugby.

1650
01:24:09,267 --> 01:24:10,987
Speaker 3: You love it, Yeah, we'll keep eyes on it for

1651
01:24:11,067 --> 01:24:15,507
Speaker 3: you this hour. This hour. Also Chris Wood is on

1652
01:24:15,547 --> 01:24:19,187
Speaker 3: the show, or what's Captain Nottingham Forest striker. He's standing

1653
01:24:19,187 --> 01:24:21,427
Speaker 3: by to have a chat to us. We'll talk the

1654
01:24:21,507 --> 01:24:24,947
Speaker 3: career of raff and Adah who this year, not this

1655
01:24:25,067 --> 01:24:28,387
Speaker 3: yep this week has announced that this year will be

1656
01:24:28,427 --> 01:24:30,667
Speaker 3: his last. In fact, he's going to call it quits

1657
01:24:30,707 --> 01:24:34,747
Speaker 3: after the upcoming Davis Cup type of Spain. Twenty two

1658
01:24:35,467 --> 01:24:38,347
Speaker 3: major titles for RAFFA. Where does he stand in the

1659
01:24:39,307 --> 01:24:43,667
Speaker 3: plethora the pantheon of tennis players down the years? Gray

1660
01:24:43,707 --> 01:24:46,547
Speaker 3: Maga is gonna have a chances about that and a

1661
01:24:46,547 --> 01:24:51,067
Speaker 3: Bathurst preview as well. Simon Chapman motorsport journalist based in Australia.

1662
01:24:51,107 --> 01:24:53,867
Speaker 3: He's a key wee but based in Australia. Matt Payne

1663
01:24:54,587 --> 01:24:58,907
Speaker 3: fastest and qualifying. He's the leading driver ahead of the

1664
01:24:58,907 --> 01:25:01,387
Speaker 3: top ten shootout of it later on tonight. What are

1665
01:25:01,427 --> 01:25:04,627
Speaker 3: his chances tomorrow of winning the whole thing? Oh eight,

1666
01:25:04,627 --> 01:25:06,787
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty continues to be our number.

1667
01:25:06,867 --> 01:25:09,427
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two continues to be our text line.

1668
01:25:09,467 --> 01:25:12,307
Speaker 3: But as the time ticks around to nine past two,

1669
01:25:12,427 --> 01:25:14,787
Speaker 3: as we always do it this time on Weekend Sport,

1670
01:25:15,227 --> 01:25:17,027
Speaker 3: it is time to bring you right up to date

1671
01:25:17,067 --> 01:25:19,347
Speaker 3: with the stuff that you might not be up to date.

1672
01:25:19,387 --> 01:25:24,707
Speaker 3: With Andy McDonald's in Case You Missed It feature, starting

1673
01:25:24,747 --> 01:25:27,867
Speaker 3: state side, where the San Francisco forty nine Ers have

1674
01:25:27,987 --> 01:25:31,147
Speaker 3: had an impressive win in the NFL over their divisional

1675
01:25:31,267 --> 01:25:33,467
Speaker 3: rivals the Seattle Seahawks.

1676
01:25:33,707 --> 01:25:40,347
Speaker 23: Ernie Cross and right at the Payeline Reality Touchdown Channel

1677
01:25:40,467 --> 01:25:45,227
Speaker 23: meets the Cats right at the pieline Big Spake, and

1678
01:25:45,347 --> 01:25:49,267
Speaker 23: this time the forty nine Ers pay off a long.

1679
01:25:49,147 --> 01:25:52,627
Speaker 3: Drive thirty six twenty four, the final score. Still in

1680
01:25:52,667 --> 01:25:56,147
Speaker 3: the United States, the Oklahoma City Thunder have made it

1681
01:25:56,267 --> 01:26:00,067
Speaker 3: o for three for the Breakers in their little United

1682
01:26:00,067 --> 01:26:00,707
Speaker 3: States trip.

1683
01:26:00,867 --> 01:26:02,827
Speaker 28: Quarterback rives to get able to run out the class

1684
01:26:03,707 --> 01:26:08,627
Speaker 28: came over and despite the Thunder, I'm playing the majority

1685
01:26:08,627 --> 01:26:11,427
Speaker 28: of its roster and this game had some entertainment value

1686
01:26:11,467 --> 01:26:14,507
Speaker 28: to it, but it was all okay see in the

1687
01:26:14,507 --> 01:26:17,547
Speaker 28: second half to take the victory one seventeen eighty nine.

1688
01:26:17,667 --> 01:26:19,667
Speaker 3: And it still can't quite work out why the Breakers

1689
01:26:20,027 --> 01:26:23,467
Speaker 3: do this or have done this anyway. Back home now

1690
01:26:23,507 --> 01:26:28,187
Speaker 3: and they'll resume their Australian National Basketball League campaign. Team

1691
01:26:28,267 --> 01:26:33,307
Speaker 3: New Zealand has unfortunately missed out on the Women's America's Cup.

1692
01:26:33,267 --> 01:26:36,467
Speaker 5: And Athena Pathway, Great Britain will just cruise over.

1693
01:26:37,387 --> 01:26:39,507
Speaker 6: They are the first team across the line to go

1694
01:26:39,587 --> 01:26:44,987
Speaker 6: into the inaugdural Hooch Women's America's Cup Final this weekend.

1695
01:26:45,307 --> 01:26:49,547
Speaker 6: Well done and Ludo rossa Trada brilliant and they will

1696
01:26:49,547 --> 01:26:52,787
Speaker 6: be his second boat. They are the opponents of Athena

1697
01:26:52,947 --> 01:26:57,187
Speaker 6: Pathways Great Britain. What a final, A single match race final.

1698
01:26:57,427 --> 01:27:00,387
Speaker 3: It is going to be back home Counties, Manorcow. No

1699
01:27:00,507 --> 01:27:04,067
Speaker 3: match for Wellington and the first of the Bunnings ENDPC quarterfinals.

1700
01:27:04,307 --> 01:27:08,987
Speaker 31: Wellington achieve their one hundredth in PC victory at sky

1701
01:27:09,147 --> 01:27:12,547
Speaker 31: Stadium and it is enough to take them into the

1702
01:27:12,587 --> 01:27:14,667
Speaker 31: semi finals of this year's competition.

1703
01:27:14,867 --> 01:27:17,227
Speaker 3: A twenty nine to fourteen win for the Lions last night,

1704
01:27:17,307 --> 01:27:21,347
Speaker 3: Australia have dealt Pakistan a heavy loss at the T

1705
01:27:21,347 --> 01:27:23,747
Speaker 3: twenty Women's World Cup plays.

1706
01:27:23,507 --> 01:27:28,987
Speaker 32: Straights and that will be victory for Australia. The Uzzy

1707
01:27:29,107 --> 01:27:35,227
Speaker 32: Juggernaut rolled on fourteen consecutive win in T twenty World Cups,

1708
01:27:35,627 --> 01:27:36,787
Speaker 32: winning by nine.

1709
01:27:36,587 --> 01:27:40,107
Speaker 3: Wickets, but even that pales in comparison to the loss

1710
01:27:40,147 --> 01:27:44,307
Speaker 3: the Pakistan men's team were handed by England in a

1711
01:27:44,387 --> 01:27:46,467
Speaker 3: quite astonishing Test match.

1712
01:27:48,787 --> 01:27:54,427
Speaker 33: It's our other Pakistan lose this and it's the world record,

1713
01:27:54,467 --> 01:27:58,347
Speaker 33: in a way, a world record that Pakistan would want

1714
01:27:58,347 --> 01:28:02,427
Speaker 33: to forget after scoring five point fifty plus to suffer.

1715
01:28:03,987 --> 01:28:09,147
Speaker 3: An innings defeat. It happened first time ever in tesque.

1716
01:28:09,427 --> 01:28:11,747
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call

1717
01:28:11,907 --> 01:28:15,667
Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason

1718
01:28:15,707 --> 01:28:17,227
Speaker 1: Hine News Talk ZEB.

1719
01:28:17,787 --> 01:28:21,547
Speaker 3: Just before we move on from that last little snippet there,

1720
01:28:21,587 --> 01:28:23,707
Speaker 3: And in case you missed it, I'm not sure if

1721
01:28:23,747 --> 01:28:26,987
Speaker 3: you did miss this. Here are the match scores. Pakistan

1722
01:28:27,147 --> 01:28:31,987
Speaker 3: five hundred and fifty six, England eight hundred and twenty

1723
01:28:32,027 --> 01:28:37,427
Speaker 3: three for seven declared. Pakistan all out two hundred and twenty.

1724
01:28:38,027 --> 01:28:42,747
Speaker 3: Imagine scoring five hundred and fifty six and losing by

1725
01:28:42,747 --> 01:28:46,067
Speaker 3: an innings. Incredible, as you just heard in that commentary there,

1726
01:28:46,427 --> 01:28:48,907
Speaker 3: first time that's ever happened, or that's the highest score

1727
01:28:48,947 --> 01:28:52,267
Speaker 3: anyone's ever got in the first innings and still lost

1728
01:28:52,307 --> 01:28:55,547
Speaker 3: the Test by an innings. England eight twenty three for

1729
01:28:55,627 --> 01:28:59,227
Speaker 3: seven declared. Kept the could have got one thousand if

1730
01:28:59,227 --> 01:29:00,907
Speaker 3: that kept battle. I don't know what I've didn't try it,

1731
01:29:00,987 --> 01:29:04,787
Speaker 3: Pining well, you tried to bring up the thousand. Maybe

1732
01:29:04,827 --> 01:29:07,627
Speaker 3: they're trying to win the Test match. Which they now. Andy,

1733
01:29:07,667 --> 01:29:11,787
Speaker 3: you sent me this incredible stat. This century, three teams

1734
01:29:11,867 --> 01:29:15,307
Speaker 3: have scored five hundred and fifty six all out in

1735
01:29:15,347 --> 01:29:17,747
Speaker 3: a Test match and all three of them have lost.

1736
01:29:18,347 --> 01:29:22,227
Speaker 3: Australia to India and three Bangladesh to the West Indies

1737
01:29:22,267 --> 01:29:24,907
Speaker 3: in twenty twelve in Pakistan here, but to lose by

1738
01:29:24,907 --> 01:29:28,627
Speaker 3: an innings when you get five hundred and fifty six,

1739
01:29:29,587 --> 01:29:32,987
Speaker 3: that's unique. That is practically unheard off. But that is

1740
01:29:33,027 --> 01:29:36,667
Speaker 3: a very interesting stat. So I think, what's the moral

1741
01:29:36,667 --> 01:29:37,867
Speaker 3: of the story here. You just don't want to get

1742
01:29:37,907 --> 01:29:38,587
Speaker 3: five fifty six.

1743
01:29:38,667 --> 01:29:41,027
Speaker 29: Yeah, five fifty five is probably what you want, not

1744
01:29:41,147 --> 01:29:45,707
Speaker 29: five fifty six. It's exactly five fifty six all out,

1745
01:29:45,787 --> 01:29:48,147
Speaker 29: So you can actually if you get to five fifty

1746
01:29:48,147 --> 01:29:51,107
Speaker 29: six for nine declare I think you're fine in that boat.

1747
01:29:51,107 --> 01:29:53,347
Speaker 29: But if it's if you're five to fifty six all out,

1748
01:29:53,707 --> 01:29:54,547
Speaker 29: then you're in trouble.

1749
01:29:54,947 --> 01:29:58,547
Speaker 3: The writing is on the wall for you. Thanks indeed, Andy,

1750
01:29:58,907 --> 01:30:01,547
Speaker 3: in case you missed it, back again tomorrow. The All

1751
01:30:01,547 --> 01:30:04,067
Speaker 3: Whites meantime, up and running on the road to the

1752
01:30:04,067 --> 01:30:06,947
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six feet for World Cup. They've beaten three

1753
01:30:07,027 --> 01:30:10,587
Speaker 3: nilk goals to Eli just Ben Wayne and captain Chris Wood.

1754
01:30:10,627 --> 01:30:12,987
Speaker 34: Sutton over the time the head of this time and

1755
01:30:13,067 --> 01:30:17,787
Speaker 34: that one was easy Chris Wood. That is goal number

1756
01:30:17,907 --> 01:30:22,627
Speaker 34: thirty five for the captain, sim Peace corner kick and

1757
01:30:22,747 --> 01:30:25,547
Speaker 34: Dahiti just took their guard.

1758
01:30:25,427 --> 01:30:28,267
Speaker 23: Or for their movement and a special.

1759
01:30:27,787 --> 01:30:30,707
Speaker 3: Goal from Chris Wood. So the side's back in Auckland

1760
01:30:30,707 --> 01:30:33,827
Speaker 3: now they've arrived back in the country for a rare

1761
01:30:34,027 --> 01:30:36,987
Speaker 3: home match. They face Malaysia. This is a friendly at

1762
01:30:37,027 --> 01:30:40,227
Speaker 3: Albany on Monday night. There are two more World Cup qualifiers,

1763
01:30:40,467 --> 01:30:43,787
Speaker 3: also both in New Zealand in November. Captain of the

1764
01:30:43,787 --> 01:30:45,787
Speaker 3: side and one of the goal scorers yesterday, Premier League

1765
01:30:45,827 --> 01:30:48,587
Speaker 3: striker with Nottingham Forest, Chris Wood is with us from

1766
01:30:48,587 --> 01:30:51,307
Speaker 3: the team hotel. Chris, thanks for taking the time. What

1767
01:30:51,347 --> 01:30:55,227
Speaker 3: are your overall reflections on yesterday's performance and the win

1768
01:30:55,387 --> 01:30:56,267
Speaker 3: over Tahiti.

1769
01:30:57,147 --> 01:31:00,107
Speaker 21: It's job done, which is a good thing obviously going

1770
01:31:00,147 --> 01:31:03,827
Speaker 21: to the island, it's a difficult place to go at times, weather,

1771
01:31:03,987 --> 01:31:07,387
Speaker 21: pitch and all of that type of thing, but it's

1772
01:31:07,427 --> 01:31:09,587
Speaker 21: a job done through you'll win in and out, so

1773
01:31:09,627 --> 01:31:10,947
Speaker 21: it's a good start to the campaign.

1774
01:31:11,227 --> 01:31:13,307
Speaker 3: How challenging is it to play against a side like that?

1775
01:31:13,427 --> 01:31:15,907
Speaker 3: Who really are going to sit back, sit deep, try

1776
01:31:15,947 --> 01:31:16,627
Speaker 3: to frustrate you.

1777
01:31:17,707 --> 01:31:19,787
Speaker 21: Look yeah, I mean they say a lot deeper than

1778
01:31:19,787 --> 01:31:23,227
Speaker 21: we thought they would, but that's how they designed to

1779
01:31:23,267 --> 01:31:26,267
Speaker 21: play and try and get a result doing it that way.

1780
01:31:26,667 --> 01:31:28,667
Speaker 21: That's their tactic. So that's fine, and we just had

1781
01:31:28,707 --> 01:31:31,027
Speaker 21: to learn and work out how to break them down

1782
01:31:31,067 --> 01:31:35,627
Speaker 21: and score the goals. Obviously were very fortunate with just

1783
01:31:35,787 --> 01:31:39,227
Speaker 21: these goal very quickly early on a screamer from him,

1784
01:31:39,267 --> 01:31:42,667
Speaker 21: so that saystled everything can made the job a bit easier.

1785
01:31:42,747 --> 01:31:46,227
Speaker 3: In circumstances like this. Is it really just about the

1786
01:31:46,307 --> 01:31:49,747
Speaker 3: result or do you examine the performance and look for improvements.

1787
01:31:50,707 --> 01:31:52,347
Speaker 21: You always want to play it well, but at the

1788
01:31:52,427 --> 01:31:54,867
Speaker 21: end of the day, this is a tournament football. You

1789
01:31:54,947 --> 01:31:57,707
Speaker 21: need to win games to qualify for a World Cup,

1790
01:31:57,747 --> 01:31:59,747
Speaker 21: so as long as you win the games, it doesn't

1791
01:31:59,787 --> 01:32:02,707
Speaker 21: really matter. Of course, you want to play nice football

1792
01:32:02,707 --> 01:32:07,307
Speaker 21: in the in the process, but winning is ultimate goal.

1793
01:32:07,787 --> 01:32:11,307
Speaker 3: By every metric. Chris, you are overwhelming favorites to win

1794
01:32:11,387 --> 01:32:14,427
Speaker 3: Oceania and to qualify for the World Cup. How do

1795
01:32:14,467 --> 01:32:19,547
Speaker 3: you avoid complacency and keep your standards high?

1796
01:32:19,547 --> 01:32:23,587
Speaker 21: It's all about mentality. You can't under anybody or anything.

1797
01:32:25,067 --> 01:32:27,107
Speaker 21: You never know what you're going to face, and you

1798
01:32:27,187 --> 01:32:29,667
Speaker 21: have to be ready for all occasions and anything that

1799
01:32:29,707 --> 01:32:33,507
Speaker 21: comes at you. So, yeah, we know we're favorites, but

1800
01:32:33,667 --> 01:32:35,467
Speaker 21: that doesn't mean that we're going to qualify. So we

1801
01:32:35,507 --> 01:32:36,987
Speaker 21: have to put in the work to make sure that

1802
01:32:37,027 --> 01:32:39,907
Speaker 21: we do and that's that's what we're going to try

1803
01:32:39,907 --> 01:32:40,107
Speaker 21: and do.

1804
01:32:40,587 --> 01:32:42,987
Speaker 3: So back home. Now, you've got a friendly on Monday,

1805
01:32:43,027 --> 01:32:45,947
Speaker 3: and the next two World Cup qualifiers are also back

1806
01:32:45,987 --> 01:32:48,427
Speaker 3: on home soil. How different is that going to be

1807
01:32:48,547 --> 01:32:51,427
Speaker 3: compared to the well known challenges of playing in the

1808
01:32:51,427 --> 01:32:52,547
Speaker 3: Pacific Islands.

1809
01:32:53,227 --> 01:32:56,027
Speaker 21: Look, I think we're going to have obviously better conditions

1810
01:32:56,027 --> 01:32:59,987
Speaker 21: with the pitch and whether I guess we'll be getting

1811
01:32:59,987 --> 01:33:03,547
Speaker 21: better as the months come on, So I think everything

1812
01:33:03,587 --> 01:33:05,107
Speaker 21: will be in our favor in that side of it.

1813
01:33:06,027 --> 01:33:07,747
Speaker 21: But of course we're still going to come up with

1814
01:33:07,787 --> 01:33:11,227
Speaker 21: the challenges of probably teams sitting off and have are

1815
01:33:11,267 --> 01:33:13,227
Speaker 21: having to break them down and things like that. So

1816
01:33:13,267 --> 01:33:15,987
Speaker 21: there's going to be challenges, but I think we've got

1817
01:33:15,987 --> 01:33:19,467
Speaker 21: a good enough squad to be able to do it. It's

1818
01:33:18,667 --> 01:33:20,067
Speaker 21: just about doing it. Raise on the day.

1819
01:33:20,467 --> 01:33:23,227
Speaker 3: Home matches have been pretty rare recently. I can only

1820
01:33:23,267 --> 01:33:26,867
Speaker 3: find three in the last five years, which seems incredible

1821
01:33:27,107 --> 01:33:29,827
Speaker 3: how much you're looking forward to playing for your Whites

1822
01:33:29,947 --> 01:33:30,427
Speaker 3: at home.

1823
01:33:31,147 --> 01:33:33,347
Speaker 21: Look, it's going to be fantastic. It's nice to be back.

1824
01:33:33,427 --> 01:33:34,947
Speaker 21: We want to be playing in front of our home

1825
01:33:34,987 --> 01:33:37,947
Speaker 21: crowd as much as possible, and it's nice to see

1826
01:33:37,947 --> 01:33:40,787
Speaker 21: that the next three windows with this window and two others,

1827
01:33:40,787 --> 01:33:43,587
Speaker 21: that we're definitely going to be back. Yeah, and it's

1828
01:33:43,667 --> 01:33:44,907
Speaker 21: nice to see that we can play in front of

1829
01:33:44,947 --> 01:33:46,907
Speaker 21: our home crowd. So we're really looking forward to as

1830
01:33:46,947 --> 01:33:49,827
Speaker 21: a team and hopefully putting on some good performances for them.

1831
01:33:50,307 --> 01:33:53,347
Speaker 3: One thing that you have always done is make yourself

1832
01:33:53,347 --> 01:33:56,067
Speaker 3: available for New Zealand. It doesn't matter who you're playing,

1833
01:33:56,107 --> 01:33:59,827
Speaker 3: where you're playing, you are very rarely unavailable, regardless of

1834
01:33:59,867 --> 01:34:02,507
Speaker 3: the opposition or the nature of the match. What is

1835
01:34:02,507 --> 01:34:06,347
Speaker 3: it that internally drives that in you.

1836
01:34:06,907 --> 01:34:08,987
Speaker 21: It's the love of the country and the nation. I mean,

1837
01:34:10,547 --> 01:34:12,827
Speaker 21: New Zealand's my home. It's where I grew up and

1838
01:34:12,867 --> 01:34:15,227
Speaker 21: it's where it's always going to be a home for me.

1839
01:34:16,107 --> 01:34:18,707
Speaker 21: So I love coming back. I love the environment that

1840
01:34:18,787 --> 01:34:22,187
Speaker 21: we come into when we go away with that national team.

1841
01:34:22,547 --> 01:34:25,427
Speaker 21: It's just the boys are just like your family and

1842
01:34:25,427 --> 01:34:27,107
Speaker 21: your brothers, and it's just so nice to be a

1843
01:34:27,147 --> 01:34:29,507
Speaker 21: part of them being around. So it's just nice to

1844
01:34:29,547 --> 01:34:32,107
Speaker 21: come back and just play football with the boys.

1845
01:34:32,347 --> 01:34:34,947
Speaker 3: And you're all in far flung you know, areas of

1846
01:34:34,947 --> 01:34:37,027
Speaker 3: the globe, aren't you now? But when you come back together,

1847
01:34:37,027 --> 01:34:40,107
Speaker 3: do you find yourself sort of fairly easily slotting back

1848
01:34:40,147 --> 01:34:43,627
Speaker 3: into all white sort of mode again, everybody sort of

1849
01:34:43,627 --> 01:34:45,067
Speaker 3: filling the roles they always do.

1850
01:34:45,707 --> 01:34:48,867
Speaker 21: Yeah, one hundred percent comes second action and it's just

1851
01:34:48,947 --> 01:34:50,507
Speaker 21: natural to all of us and that's a good thing,

1852
01:34:50,547 --> 01:34:52,387
Speaker 21: and I think that's the why everybody loves coming back

1853
01:34:52,427 --> 01:34:53,467
Speaker 21: and loves the environment.

1854
01:34:53,827 --> 01:34:56,587
Speaker 3: Another goal for you yesterday thirty five for New Zealand.

1855
01:34:56,587 --> 01:34:59,667
Speaker 3: Now that extends your tally. Is our all time leading

1856
01:34:59,667 --> 01:35:02,867
Speaker 3: male goalscorer. You're also closing in on Iven Vistil, which

1857
01:35:02,947 --> 01:35:06,227
Speaker 3: is our record men's appearance maker. How driven are you

1858
01:35:06,587 --> 01:35:08,067
Speaker 3: milestones like these.

1859
01:35:09,867 --> 01:35:14,467
Speaker 21: They're definitely great things to come into the fold of

1860
01:35:14,547 --> 01:35:16,307
Speaker 21: as they get older and be able to look back on.

1861
01:35:16,787 --> 01:35:20,867
Speaker 21: I'd like to achieve obviously beating Oven and even further

1862
01:35:20,947 --> 01:35:23,907
Speaker 21: if I can, but ultimately the goal has been in

1863
01:35:23,947 --> 01:35:26,307
Speaker 21: another World Cup. I think that's the biggest drive and

1864
01:35:26,387 --> 01:35:28,147
Speaker 21: determination for me at this moment.

1865
01:35:28,387 --> 01:35:30,747
Speaker 3: And inside the all Whites environment there are others coming

1866
01:35:30,747 --> 01:35:33,227
Speaker 3: through obviously, and I see being Wayne another goal yesterday

1867
01:35:33,907 --> 01:35:37,347
Speaker 3: inside the all Whites Chris, how much guidance, advice that

1868
01:35:37,387 --> 01:35:38,987
Speaker 3: sort of thing are you giving to likes of being

1869
01:35:39,027 --> 01:35:43,467
Speaker 3: Wayne and others as they look to forward their path internationally.

1870
01:35:43,707 --> 01:35:46,507
Speaker 21: Look trying to give as much as possible. That's what

1871
01:35:46,547 --> 01:35:48,427
Speaker 21: I'm here for that. I'm here for them to learn

1872
01:35:48,427 --> 01:35:51,307
Speaker 21: off and ask questions and help them in any way

1873
01:35:51,347 --> 01:35:54,307
Speaker 21: possible to make their career better and stronger and go

1874
01:35:54,347 --> 01:35:57,947
Speaker 21: on to bigger and better levels and hopefully em elate

1875
01:35:58,107 --> 01:36:01,947
Speaker 21: people in the past and exceed them if possible. That'll

1876
01:36:02,027 --> 01:36:04,867
Speaker 21: be the best thing to have more boys playing in

1877
01:36:04,947 --> 01:36:07,067
Speaker 21: the biggest leagues in the world and performing at the

1878
01:36:07,147 --> 01:36:10,587
Speaker 21: highest levels both internationally and club level. So yeah, it's

1879
01:36:10,747 --> 01:36:13,467
Speaker 21: given an experience and it's like when he's done in

1880
01:36:13,467 --> 01:36:17,507
Speaker 21: the past and things like that. So just doing as

1881
01:36:17,587 --> 01:36:18,147
Speaker 21: much as they can.

1882
01:36:18,587 --> 01:36:21,267
Speaker 3: And speaking of the highest level Premier League season underway,

1883
01:36:21,547 --> 01:36:23,467
Speaker 3: you and Forrest have started well, just one loss in

1884
01:36:23,547 --> 01:36:25,907
Speaker 3: seven games. You've got four goals in those seven matches,

1885
01:36:26,227 --> 01:36:29,947
Speaker 3: seventy three all up. Now, what are the keys to

1886
01:36:30,027 --> 01:36:33,467
Speaker 3: your goal scoring consistency in the Premier League.

1887
01:36:33,747 --> 01:36:38,387
Speaker 21: Look at this moment in the team that we're in,

1888
01:36:38,467 --> 01:36:40,907
Speaker 21: it's about having the support and the manager and the

1889
01:36:40,947 --> 01:36:43,947
Speaker 21: backing of the manager. That's the best thing. He's coming

1890
01:36:43,987 --> 01:36:46,947
Speaker 21: from day dot and played me, which helps massively. And

1891
01:36:46,987 --> 01:36:48,747
Speaker 21: we'll get a great squad and a great team and

1892
01:36:48,747 --> 01:36:51,867
Speaker 21: a lot of very very good players that are going

1893
01:36:51,867 --> 01:36:54,107
Speaker 21: to go on to bigger and better things or big

1894
01:36:54,147 --> 01:36:56,307
Speaker 21: things i should say, and hopefully take this club that

1895
01:36:56,387 --> 01:36:59,027
Speaker 21: we're out to big things and trophies and that. So

1896
01:37:00,187 --> 01:37:02,107
Speaker 21: it's just fortunate to be a part of good team

1897
01:37:02,467 --> 01:37:04,747
Speaker 21: and being able to do a job up front as well.

1898
01:37:05,187 --> 01:37:06,707
Speaker 3: Great DA have you back and use your and Chris

1899
01:37:06,707 --> 01:37:08,987
Speaker 3: all the best for the friendly against Malaysia on Monday

1900
01:37:08,987 --> 01:37:11,427
Speaker 3: and then the windows to come. Really appreciate you taking

1901
01:37:11,467 --> 01:37:12,987
Speaker 3: the time for a chat chats.

1902
01:37:12,987 --> 01:37:13,587
Speaker 21: Thank you very much.

1903
01:37:13,627 --> 01:37:13,907
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1904
01:37:13,947 --> 01:37:14,147
Speaker 4: Chris.

1905
01:37:14,187 --> 01:37:18,307
Speaker 3: Chris Wood there captain of the All Whites. I think

1906
01:37:18,347 --> 01:37:21,987
Speaker 3: you know approaching you know, certainly the podium anyway, as

1907
01:37:22,027 --> 01:37:25,787
Speaker 3: our greatest ever male player, he's our leading goalscorer. He's

1908
01:37:25,827 --> 01:37:28,267
Speaker 3: about ten or eleven short of if in Viscilitch. Most

1909
01:37:28,267 --> 01:37:31,827
Speaker 3: games full games for New Zealand. They play Malaysia North

1910
01:37:31,827 --> 01:37:34,427
Speaker 3: Harbor on Monday seven o'clock kick off in that one,

1911
01:37:34,507 --> 01:37:38,387
Speaker 3: it's a friendly, but the All Whites so rarely play

1912
01:37:38,427 --> 01:37:41,107
Speaker 3: at home. If you're in and around, i'd get along.

1913
01:37:41,227 --> 01:37:43,627
Speaker 3: All the stars are here, it's a pretty good team

1914
01:37:43,987 --> 01:37:46,747
Speaker 3: and from what I understand, New Zealand Football have made

1915
01:37:46,747 --> 01:37:49,987
Speaker 3: this pretty affordable. Only five bucks for kids, twenty dollars adults.

1916
01:37:50,027 --> 01:37:52,747
Speaker 3: I think I saw five dollars for kids. And then

1917
01:37:52,787 --> 01:37:55,907
Speaker 3: games in November. This one's at Albany. In November they

1918
01:37:55,907 --> 01:37:58,307
Speaker 3: play a couple of games in World Cup Qualifying, one

1919
01:37:58,347 --> 01:38:01,707
Speaker 3: in Hamilton and one at Mount Smart, so those are

1920
01:38:01,747 --> 01:38:04,267
Speaker 3: also available for purchase and I think the ticket prices

1921
01:38:04,267 --> 01:38:06,027
Speaker 3: are the same for that as well. So yeah, good

1922
01:38:06,027 --> 01:38:07,547
Speaker 3: to have the Whit's back home and a good win

1923
01:38:07,627 --> 01:38:11,987
Speaker 3: yesterday three nil over Tahiti, seven nil to Bay of

1924
01:38:12,027 --> 01:38:14,707
Speaker 3: Plenty over Hawks Bay with fifteen minutes gone in the

1925
01:38:14,707 --> 01:38:18,867
Speaker 3: second Bunnings NPC quarter final in Todonga. We'll take a

1926
01:38:18,867 --> 01:38:21,747
Speaker 3: break and then head across the Tasman again to Bathurst,

1927
01:38:21,827 --> 01:38:25,187
Speaker 3: this time where it is the biggest weekend on the

1928
01:38:25,227 --> 01:38:29,827
Speaker 3: Australian motorsport calendar. I think by most measures, Bathurst the

1929
01:38:29,827 --> 01:38:33,547
Speaker 3: Great Race at Mount Panorama tomorrow. Simon Chapman is a

1930
01:38:33,627 --> 01:38:36,707
Speaker 3: key week but based in Australia and a highly regarded

1931
01:38:36,707 --> 01:38:39,347
Speaker 3: motorsport journalist. He's going to run an eye over Bathurst

1932
01:38:39,387 --> 01:38:43,187
Speaker 3: for US and Matt Pain in particular the keywek who

1933
01:38:43,307 --> 01:38:47,867
Speaker 3: has claimed provisional poll before the top ten shootout tonight

1934
01:38:47,987 --> 01:38:51,467
Speaker 3: at Bathurst. Simon Chapman with US on Weekend Sport right

1935
01:38:51,507 --> 01:38:51,907
Speaker 3: after this.

1936
01:38:52,627 --> 01:38:55,747
Speaker 1: Have some more than just a game weekends for it

1937
01:38:55,987 --> 01:39:00,107
Speaker 1: with Jason Fain and GJ. Garnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted

1938
01:39:00,147 --> 01:39:01,627
Speaker 1: home builder news Dogs B.

1939
01:39:02,187 --> 01:39:05,147
Speaker 3: Two twenty five Keev Supercars driver Matt Payne and co

1940
01:39:05,267 --> 01:39:09,987
Speaker 3: driver Garth Tand have claimed provisional pole after qualifying at

1941
01:39:09,987 --> 01:39:12,147
Speaker 3: the bath first one thousand cam waterers.

1942
01:39:11,867 --> 01:39:14,667
Speaker 32: Meantime is on a very good lap that might eclipse Phoenie.

1943
01:39:15,027 --> 01:39:18,107
Speaker 32: It's a pressure moment. He's gone up to position number

1944
01:39:18,107 --> 01:39:20,627
Speaker 32: two on a five seven waters. This done at five

1945
01:39:20,667 --> 01:39:24,427
Speaker 32: to six so far. Here is the fastest man water

1946
01:39:24,507 --> 01:39:27,747
Speaker 32: is Feenie and Brown Out Championship Contender's a covert by

1947
01:39:27,907 --> 01:39:29,027
Speaker 32: one tenth.

1948
01:39:28,747 --> 01:39:30,867
Speaker 18: Of a second.

1949
01:39:30,987 --> 01:39:33,667
Speaker 32: Pays bust out of five six as well.

1950
01:39:34,067 --> 01:39:35,547
Speaker 1: He's in there by six.

1951
01:39:35,427 --> 01:39:38,507
Speaker 32: One thousands of a second, Pain, Waters and Feenie one

1952
01:39:38,627 --> 01:39:42,747
Speaker 32: two three. What a supercar shown with sixty seconds remaining.

1953
01:39:42,867 --> 01:39:45,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so close, but Matt Pain pipped Cam

1954
01:39:45,947 --> 01:39:50,547
Speaker 3: Waters by point zero zero six that's six thousands of

1955
01:39:50,587 --> 01:39:53,707
Speaker 3: a second, with the top four drivers Paining, Water's Brock,

1956
01:39:53,747 --> 01:39:57,267
Speaker 3: Feenie and Brodie Castiki separated by just point zero one

1957
01:39:57,467 --> 01:40:00,467
Speaker 3: nine four second. So Matt Pain will look to secure

1958
01:40:00,547 --> 01:40:04,467
Speaker 3: pole in tonight's top ten shootout, which also features fellow

1959
01:40:04,507 --> 01:40:08,067
Speaker 3: Kiwi's andre Heimgartner and Richie's. Anyway, let's bring in Simon

1960
01:40:08,187 --> 01:40:13,867
Speaker 3: Chapman from Speedcafe dot com. Simon, they were quick and

1961
01:40:13,907 --> 01:40:16,547
Speaker 3: they were close, but there were a lot of crashes,

1962
01:40:16,587 --> 01:40:18,067
Speaker 3: a bit of carnage and qualifying.

1963
01:40:18,067 --> 01:40:22,627
Speaker 22: What went on absolutely bedlam, really crazyness. At the top

1964
01:40:22,627 --> 01:40:25,947
Speaker 22: of the mountain, we obviously saw David Reynolds have an

1965
01:40:26,187 --> 01:40:30,547
Speaker 22: enormous crash between a rock skyline and the dippers going

1966
01:40:30,587 --> 01:40:32,387
Speaker 22: those first into the wall, and then we finished the

1967
01:40:32,427 --> 01:40:35,347
Speaker 22: session off with David Reynolds having a similar sorry, well

1968
01:40:35,427 --> 01:40:39,147
Speaker 22: Davison having a similar moment into the Dipper. And yeah,

1969
01:40:39,187 --> 01:40:41,707
Speaker 22: the explanation seems to be basically that everyone's just pushing

1970
01:40:41,747 --> 01:40:45,427
Speaker 22: so so hard. These hard tires. Obviously they've moved away

1971
01:40:45,427 --> 01:40:48,747
Speaker 22: from the soft tire from last year. Maybe having a

1972
01:40:48,747 --> 01:40:50,987
Speaker 22: look at the number on the dashboard and going jeez,

1973
01:40:51,027 --> 01:40:53,787
Speaker 22: it's not quite record pace. And yeah, the summation from

1974
01:40:53,827 --> 01:40:55,907
Speaker 22: a lot of drivers is that they're just pushing super

1975
01:40:55,987 --> 01:40:56,627
Speaker 22: super hard.

1976
01:40:57,067 --> 01:40:59,747
Speaker 3: From what you saw from Matt Pain, how do you

1977
01:40:59,787 --> 01:41:01,787
Speaker 3: write his chances of going well in the top ten

1978
01:41:01,827 --> 01:41:03,547
Speaker 3: shootout and then going well tomorrow.

1979
01:41:04,267 --> 01:41:05,987
Speaker 22: Well, but the rule of thumb always is at the

1980
01:41:06,067 --> 01:41:09,667
Speaker 22: last car out it has the best opportunity, the conditions

1981
01:41:09,707 --> 01:41:13,027
Speaker 22: will be the best for him to sit the fastest time,

1982
01:41:13,147 --> 01:41:15,947
Speaker 22: So you'd expect Maddie to be right up there. But

1983
01:41:16,027 --> 01:41:18,707
Speaker 22: I guess for guys like cam Waters and brock Feenie,

1984
01:41:18,707 --> 01:41:21,187
Speaker 22: they'll probably feel like that I've got enough in the

1985
01:41:21,227 --> 01:41:23,947
Speaker 22: tank to beat Matt. Obviously there was that late red

1986
01:41:23,987 --> 01:41:27,267
Speaker 22: flag at the very end of qualifying which deprived a

1987
01:41:27,307 --> 01:41:30,587
Speaker 22: few guys of a chance to improve. Maddy Pain seems

1988
01:41:30,627 --> 01:41:32,867
Speaker 22: to have a lot of pace in the straits. He

1989
01:41:32,987 --> 01:41:36,707
Speaker 22: was fastest down Conrade straight and up the mountain, whereas

1990
01:41:36,707 --> 01:41:38,067
Speaker 22: the other guy seemed to have a lot of pace

1991
01:41:38,667 --> 01:41:41,547
Speaker 22: over the top of the hills. So it'll be fascinating

1992
01:41:41,707 --> 01:41:45,267
Speaker 22: to see what the so afternoon shootout is going to

1993
01:41:45,267 --> 01:41:48,587
Speaker 22: be like because brock Feenie, by all accounts, was on

1994
01:41:48,987 --> 01:41:51,307
Speaker 22: course to be faster than Matt Pain.

1995
01:41:52,267 --> 01:41:56,267
Speaker 3: The top four are so close together, aren't they? Does

1996
01:41:56,347 --> 01:41:58,787
Speaker 3: position in the top ten shootout group position tomorrow? Does

1997
01:41:58,827 --> 01:41:59,787
Speaker 3: that really matter?

1998
01:42:01,547 --> 01:42:02,987
Speaker 22: Everyone? At the end of the day, if they don't

1999
01:42:03,027 --> 01:42:05,547
Speaker 22: qualify on pole, they always say, you know, we don't

2000
01:42:05,547 --> 01:42:07,947
Speaker 22: need to worry to him. It's about the where we're starting.

2001
01:42:07,947 --> 01:42:09,547
Speaker 22: You know, anything can happen over the course of one

2002
01:42:09,627 --> 01:42:12,227
Speaker 22: hundred and sixty one laps. But look, the reality is

2003
01:42:12,227 --> 01:42:14,827
Speaker 22: is if you can come away with pole position at

2004
01:42:14,827 --> 01:42:17,107
Speaker 22: the end of today, you know that you are the

2005
01:42:17,147 --> 01:42:19,587
Speaker 22: fastest car. You have the fastest car of anyone on

2006
01:42:19,587 --> 01:42:22,307
Speaker 22: that group, so in theory you should be the favorite.

2007
01:42:22,747 --> 01:42:24,507
Speaker 22: But as we know, a lot of things can happen

2008
01:42:24,547 --> 01:42:26,267
Speaker 22: at the mountain and a lot of the time it

2009
01:42:26,307 --> 01:42:30,547
Speaker 22: comes down to the reliability, spending as little amount of

2010
01:42:30,547 --> 01:42:33,747
Speaker 22: time in pit lane as possible, and just getting absolutely

2011
01:42:33,787 --> 01:42:36,107
Speaker 22: everything right. We've seen in the past that even if

2012
01:42:36,147 --> 01:42:38,427
Speaker 22: you don't get everything right, you can still be a chance.

2013
01:42:38,507 --> 01:42:41,147
Speaker 22: So you know, for those guys at the end of today,

2014
01:42:41,267 --> 01:42:43,467
Speaker 22: I think if you're any one of those top ten

2015
01:42:43,787 --> 01:42:47,347
Speaker 22: runners in the shootout, you're probably giving yourself a really

2016
01:42:47,347 --> 01:42:49,587
Speaker 22: good sniff of a good result. But as we all know,

2017
01:42:49,747 --> 01:42:52,147
Speaker 22: just keeping out of trouble is the first step.

2018
01:42:52,347 --> 01:42:54,827
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk more about the absolute keys

2019
01:42:54,867 --> 01:42:57,787
Speaker 3: to winning the whole thing shortly, but there are two

2020
01:42:57,827 --> 01:43:01,267
Speaker 3: key we's in the top ten. Andre Heimgartner, Richie stand Away.

2021
01:43:01,747 --> 01:43:03,707
Speaker 3: What's your assessment of where they're at?

2022
01:43:04,787 --> 01:43:08,147
Speaker 22: Yeah, that quick, I think probably you'd almost have to

2023
01:43:08,147 --> 01:43:10,107
Speaker 22: say that kind of underdogs in a weird kind of way.

2024
01:43:10,147 --> 01:43:12,947
Speaker 22: They've flown under the radar a little bit. Richie Stanaway

2025
01:43:13,027 --> 01:43:15,187
Speaker 22: had one of his best results of the season earlier

2026
01:43:15,227 --> 01:43:17,707
Speaker 22: this year at the season opener at this very circuit

2027
01:43:17,747 --> 01:43:22,027
Speaker 22: Mount Panorama, so obviously coming in as last year's Batist

2028
01:43:22,067 --> 01:43:24,787
Speaker 22: one thousand winner, there's probably some expectations for him, but

2029
01:43:24,827 --> 01:43:27,307
Speaker 22: he's had a really dreadful season on the whole, so

2030
01:43:27,907 --> 01:43:31,387
Speaker 22: he's not really expected to be one of the favorites.

2031
01:43:31,427 --> 01:43:34,787
Speaker 22: But then you see his teammates sitting this incredible pace,

2032
01:43:34,867 --> 01:43:38,107
Speaker 22: so you can't rule him out. He'll probably be applying

2033
01:43:38,107 --> 01:43:40,187
Speaker 22: a lot of the setup philosophies to that car to

2034
01:43:40,227 --> 01:43:42,547
Speaker 22: try and go that little bit faster, and he's probably

2035
01:43:42,587 --> 01:43:45,107
Speaker 22: another guy who would have said he could go fast

2036
01:43:45,187 --> 01:43:46,867
Speaker 22: if not for that red flag at the end of

2037
01:43:46,907 --> 01:43:52,187
Speaker 22: qualifying on Friday afternoon. And then obviously Andre Heimgartner with

2038
01:43:52,307 --> 01:43:55,067
Speaker 22: his co driver Dicklan Fraser, the sort of starit of

2039
01:43:55,107 --> 01:43:58,027
Speaker 22: a smoky I think they're clearly the quickest car out

2040
01:43:58,027 --> 01:44:01,747
Speaker 22: of the Brad Jones racing stable, and you know, on

2041
01:44:01,827 --> 01:44:05,147
Speaker 22: their day they can be competitive. I think for Declan

2042
01:44:05,227 --> 01:44:07,467
Speaker 22: he just needs to stay out and let Andre do

2043
01:44:07,907 --> 01:44:10,347
Speaker 22: a lot of the heavy lifting really, so you know,

2044
01:44:10,507 --> 01:44:14,587
Speaker 22: I would say for Richie and Andre, you know historically

2045
01:44:14,667 --> 01:44:17,747
Speaker 22: they've gone very well at Batist, Richie especially the Batist

2046
01:44:17,747 --> 01:44:20,107
Speaker 22: one thousand winners, so they would be expecting to be

2047
01:44:20,627 --> 01:44:22,427
Speaker 22: factoring in the fight for a podium.

2048
01:44:22,707 --> 01:44:24,987
Speaker 3: And the others in the top ten that we haven't mentioned,

2049
01:44:24,987 --> 01:44:29,907
Speaker 3: Will Brown, Chaz Moster, Jack Lebroc and Tom Depasqually Huloom's

2050
01:44:30,027 --> 01:44:31,747
Speaker 3: largest of that quartet.

2051
01:44:32,627 --> 01:44:34,827
Speaker 22: Well, a lot of people have been talking about Chaz Moster.

2052
01:44:35,187 --> 01:44:38,547
Speaker 22: You know, he's a winner of this race. He always

2053
01:44:38,587 --> 01:44:41,947
Speaker 22: turns up in his quick hair. They've again kind of

2054
01:44:41,987 --> 01:44:45,787
Speaker 22: flown under the radar a little bit, maybe don't have

2055
01:44:45,947 --> 01:44:50,707
Speaker 22: the outright pace amongst the forwards compared to you know,

2056
01:44:50,787 --> 01:44:53,867
Speaker 22: Tickford Racing and Grove Racing, but you know they'll be

2057
01:44:53,947 --> 01:45:00,147
Speaker 22: there for them, especially I think after Lee Holdsworth, I guess,

2058
01:45:00,187 --> 01:45:02,107
Speaker 22: not the best run, it's the sand Down five hundred.

2059
01:45:02,107 --> 01:45:03,747
Speaker 22: He'll be wanting a little bit of redemption. I think,

2060
01:45:03,787 --> 01:45:06,867
Speaker 22: probably just trying to stay out of trouble. And then

2061
01:45:06,987 --> 01:45:10,347
Speaker 22: I guess for Will Brown, you know, he's the championship leader,

2062
01:45:10,787 --> 01:45:12,227
Speaker 22: and for him it's a bit of a tricky one

2063
01:45:12,227 --> 01:45:14,187
Speaker 22: because he'll want to come out the other side of

2064
01:45:14,227 --> 01:45:17,947
Speaker 22: this with a pretty hefty points Lee, but he'll also

2065
01:45:18,027 --> 01:45:19,747
Speaker 22: want to win, you know, so it's a bit of

2066
01:45:19,787 --> 01:45:22,227
Speaker 22: a double sword for him because he wants to sort

2067
01:45:22,227 --> 01:45:24,667
Speaker 22: of probably consolidate a little bit. But when you get here,

2068
01:45:24,707 --> 01:45:26,307
Speaker 22: the reality is is all you want to do is

2069
01:45:26,347 --> 01:45:28,707
Speaker 22: when you don't really care too much about the championship,

2070
01:45:29,747 --> 01:45:32,427
Speaker 22: and you know, the Triple A cars traditionally have been

2071
01:45:32,947 --> 01:45:37,307
Speaker 22: amongst the very fastest, so he was probably maybe not

2072
01:45:37,347 --> 01:45:40,747
Speaker 22: as quick as his teammate Brock Feenie over the first

2073
01:45:40,787 --> 01:45:43,907
Speaker 22: two days, maybe just starting to find their feet. Obviously

2074
01:45:43,907 --> 01:45:47,027
Speaker 22: Scott Pie had that crash at the end of Thursday,

2075
01:45:47,227 --> 01:45:51,027
Speaker 22: so yeah, it'll be tricky to see where Will Brown

2076
01:45:51,147 --> 01:45:52,987
Speaker 22: sort of lines up relative to Brock, because I think

2077
01:45:53,027 --> 01:45:54,947
Speaker 22: Brock's got the edge overm at the moment.

2078
01:45:55,347 --> 01:45:59,307
Speaker 3: All right, Well, you mentioned before Simon that eliminating mistakes

2079
01:45:59,387 --> 01:46:01,587
Speaker 3: or simply not making them as a big part of

2080
01:46:01,627 --> 01:46:05,707
Speaker 3: success at Mount Panorama Apart from that and driving fast obviously,

2081
01:46:06,467 --> 01:46:08,067
Speaker 3: what are the keys to winning bead?

2082
01:46:08,107 --> 01:46:08,427
Speaker 21: First?

2083
01:46:09,587 --> 01:46:11,427
Speaker 22: Well, you have to minimize the amount of time that

2084
01:46:11,467 --> 01:46:14,507
Speaker 22: you spend in the pit lane. That's really the key here.

2085
01:46:15,147 --> 01:46:17,507
Speaker 22: The amount of time that you can basically stay on

2086
01:46:17,547 --> 01:46:20,787
Speaker 22: the racetrack is key. It probably sounds a little bit silly,

2087
01:46:20,867 --> 01:46:23,147
Speaker 22: to be honest, but really you want to do as

2088
01:46:23,707 --> 01:46:26,387
Speaker 22: few amount of pit stops as possible. And one of

2089
01:46:26,467 --> 01:46:29,507
Speaker 22: the big things that we're talking out about at the

2090
01:46:29,587 --> 01:46:32,267
Speaker 22: track is this full course yellow and the timing of it.

2091
01:46:32,307 --> 01:46:36,787
Speaker 22: Now at Sandown Supercars basically said, if there's a full

2092
01:46:36,827 --> 01:46:39,747
Speaker 22: course yellow, which basically reduces everyone to eighty kilometers an

2093
01:46:39,787 --> 01:46:43,587
Speaker 22: hour with your pit lane speed limitter, we're going to

2094
01:46:43,587 --> 01:46:46,547
Speaker 22: give you two laps to cycle around and complete your

2095
01:46:46,587 --> 01:46:48,507
Speaker 22: pet stops and that's going to make everything. See it,

2096
01:46:48,587 --> 01:46:51,947
Speaker 22: that rule doesn't exist here. Basically, race control can say,

2097
01:46:52,187 --> 01:46:53,987
Speaker 22: all right, we're going to throw the yellow flag, everyone

2098
01:46:53,987 --> 01:46:56,347
Speaker 22: needs to slow down to eighty kilometers an hour, and

2099
01:46:56,387 --> 01:46:59,667
Speaker 22: what that basically enables you to do is come into

2100
01:46:59,667 --> 01:47:02,227
Speaker 22: the pit lane and not lose as much time as

2101
01:47:02,267 --> 01:47:05,667
Speaker 22: what you would under greenplay conditions. Because whilst you're trunneling

2102
01:47:05,667 --> 01:47:08,067
Speaker 22: through the pit lane they kilometers an hour, everyone else

2103
01:47:08,147 --> 01:47:09,947
Speaker 22: is also on track going the same speed as you,

2104
01:47:10,027 --> 01:47:12,467
Speaker 22: So you basically want to get in as soon as

2105
01:47:12,467 --> 01:47:14,987
Speaker 22: you possibly can to execute a pit stop, whether that's

2106
01:47:15,027 --> 01:47:18,627
Speaker 22: to change tires, change fuel, change your driver, and then

2107
01:47:18,667 --> 01:47:20,987
Speaker 22: get back out on the racetrack. Now, because of that

2108
01:47:21,107 --> 01:47:23,787
Speaker 22: rule change, it also means that they can just withdraw

2109
01:47:23,827 --> 01:47:26,547
Speaker 22: the yellow at any given time, So then you could

2110
01:47:26,587 --> 01:47:29,507
Speaker 22: either get stuck out on track and miss that opportunity

2111
01:47:29,587 --> 01:47:32,627
Speaker 22: to pit and maybe need to put under green flay

2112
01:47:32,667 --> 01:47:35,107
Speaker 22: conditions and lose a lot of time, or you can

2113
01:47:35,147 --> 01:47:37,587
Speaker 22: come in under yellow and not lose as much time.

2114
01:47:37,827 --> 01:47:39,387
Speaker 22: So that's going to be I think the key to

2115
01:47:39,427 --> 01:47:42,267
Speaker 22: this race is how you sort of plan your pit

2116
01:47:42,307 --> 01:47:45,747
Speaker 22: stops and maybe time them if there are incidents on track.

2117
01:47:46,427 --> 01:47:49,227
Speaker 3: And just in a wider sense, we heard news during

2118
01:47:49,227 --> 01:47:51,267
Speaker 3: the week the Supercars calendar is going to be extended

2119
01:47:51,267 --> 01:47:54,747
Speaker 3: by ten races to thirty four across thirteen rounds next

2120
01:47:54,787 --> 01:47:57,987
Speaker 3: year and be split into three phases, eight rounds of

2121
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Speaker 3: sprints and endurance races, and then an elimination finals series.

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Speaker 3: What's your take on.

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01:48:03,667 --> 01:48:10,267
Speaker 22: This, Yeah, I think for supercars, you know, they've probably

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01:48:10,307 --> 01:48:14,347
Speaker 22: stagnated a little bit for the last maybe five six

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01:48:14,427 --> 01:48:18,747
Speaker 22: seven years. Supercars are looking at ways to innovate, and

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01:48:18,947 --> 01:48:22,427
Speaker 22: I think you've got to commend them for trying something different.

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01:48:22,507 --> 01:48:26,947
Speaker 22: I think it's a very polarizing decision. It's definitely divided

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01:48:26,987 --> 01:48:29,787
Speaker 22: the fans, you know, the diet and the wolves sort

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01:48:29,827 --> 01:48:33,227
Speaker 22: of hold on versus forward fans of old. But you know,

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01:48:33,467 --> 01:48:36,427
Speaker 22: at the end of the day, supercars has probably lost

2131
01:48:36,467 --> 01:48:39,947
Speaker 22: a little bit of its market share relative to some

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01:48:39,987 --> 01:48:44,067
Speaker 22: of the ball sports. You know, NRAL and AFL are

2133
01:48:44,107 --> 01:48:47,387
Speaker 22: really dominant at the moment, and Supercars needs to sort

2134
01:48:47,427 --> 01:48:50,267
Speaker 22: of reinvigorate itself. And at the time when you've got

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01:48:50,307 --> 01:48:54,307
Speaker 22: broadcasts negotiations going on next year, maybe a bit of

2136
01:48:54,387 --> 01:48:56,427
Speaker 22: change is a good thing. We've got Towiter coming in

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01:48:56,427 --> 01:48:59,267
Speaker 22: in twenty twenty six at the same time, so it'll

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01:48:59,307 --> 01:49:01,667
Speaker 22: be a fascinating sort of period. I think, you know,

2139
01:49:02,507 --> 01:49:06,667
Speaker 22: you can't pass judgment until we've actually gone through next year,

2140
01:49:06,707 --> 01:49:10,147
Speaker 22: I think, and if it works, awesome. If it doesn't work,

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01:49:10,187 --> 01:49:12,187
Speaker 22: maybe they'll reassess it and they might change things up

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01:49:12,307 --> 01:49:14,707
Speaker 22: the year after that. I think everyone kind of accepts that,

2143
01:49:15,067 --> 01:49:17,867
Speaker 22: you know, we've got to try something different. This is

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01:49:17,907 --> 01:49:20,067
Speaker 22: what they want to do. Make it maybe a little

2145
01:49:20,107 --> 01:49:23,267
Speaker 22: bit you know, sort of maybe football esque in a way,

2146
01:49:23,427 --> 01:49:25,107
Speaker 22: because at the end of the day, no one wants

2147
01:49:25,107 --> 01:49:27,347
Speaker 22: to go to the second or third to last round

2148
01:49:27,347 --> 01:49:30,187
Speaker 22: of the championship already knowing who's won the whole thing.

2149
01:49:30,187 --> 01:49:33,267
Speaker 22: And yes, you know, we we always say that the

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01:49:33,347 --> 01:49:37,107
Speaker 22: drivers who perform over the course of a season should

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01:49:37,147 --> 01:49:39,267
Speaker 22: be rewarded, but at the same time we also want

2152
01:49:39,307 --> 01:49:42,467
Speaker 22: to see a fantastic player and this will push drivers

2153
01:49:42,507 --> 01:49:44,907
Speaker 22: to the very better end of the championship.

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01:49:45,347 --> 01:49:46,947
Speaker 3: Right, just to bring it back to Bathist, you know,

2155
01:49:46,987 --> 01:49:51,307
Speaker 3: a reset, as you've just outlined, there is being undertaken.

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01:49:51,387 --> 01:49:54,547
Speaker 3: But what about Bathist itself, Simon, does that still have

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01:49:54,627 --> 01:49:55,147
Speaker 3: its luster?

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01:49:56,227 --> 01:49:56,427
Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:49:56,467 --> 01:50:00,147
Speaker 22: Absolutely? You know. Every time you come back here, it's

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01:50:00,227 --> 01:50:02,427
Speaker 22: amazing to see how many fans turn out. You know,

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01:50:02,547 --> 01:50:05,827
Speaker 22: it's unlike any other event on the calendar. It's like

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01:50:05,907 --> 01:50:08,587
Speaker 22: the af Grand Final, it's like the Melbourne Cup. It's

2163
01:50:08,707 --> 01:50:11,667
Speaker 22: like all of those amazing events we've got over the

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01:50:11,707 --> 01:50:14,747
Speaker 22: side of the ditch, and you know, it attracts an

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01:50:14,787 --> 01:50:17,027
Speaker 22: all star cast as well in terms of the drivers,

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01:50:17,067 --> 01:50:19,027
Speaker 22: in terms of just people coming out to look. You know,

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01:50:19,067 --> 01:50:21,347
Speaker 22: Greg Murphy's here, he's having a race around in the

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Speaker 22: heritage touring cars and yeah, there's nothing quite like it.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 22: It's We actually came here earlier this year for a

2171
01:50:28,827 --> 01:50:31,627
Speaker 22: sprint round and it was very flat. It was just

2172
01:50:31,667 --> 01:50:33,347
Speaker 22: there was no one here and it was like what

2173
01:50:33,387 --> 01:50:35,667
Speaker 22: are we doing here? But now that we're back and

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01:50:35,667 --> 01:50:37,827
Speaker 22: it's the bath this one thousand and it's just got

2175
01:50:37,987 --> 01:50:41,347
Speaker 22: a different aura around it. If you've not experienced it before,

2176
01:50:41,387 --> 01:50:43,107
Speaker 22: you've got to get here. You've got to experience a

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01:50:43,147 --> 01:50:47,267
Speaker 22: full weekend because the atmosphere is just electric, especially this

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01:50:47,347 --> 01:50:50,747
Speaker 22: afternoon when we're going to have that top ten shootout

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01:50:50,947 --> 01:50:53,107
Speaker 22: and those guys are going to have the track all

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01:50:53,147 --> 01:50:55,547
Speaker 22: to themselves and you'll be able to hear the crowd

2181
01:50:55,627 --> 01:50:57,867
Speaker 22: roaring over top of those thundering V eights.

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Speaker 3: Amazing stuff. Thanks for painting the picture versus Simon ready

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01:51:00,827 --> 01:51:01,467
Speaker 3: appreciate it.

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Speaker 22: No worries, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Mate. That is Simon Chapman from Speedcafe dot com. So

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Speaker 3: Top ten shootout just after seven o'clock to night, New

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Speaker 3: Zealand time. That'll confirm the positions on the grid for

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Speaker 3: tomorrow and one thirty tomorrow afternoon. I think stand to

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01:51:17,267 --> 01:51:19,067
Speaker 3: be corrected, but I think it's one thirty tomorrow afternoon,

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01:51:19,067 --> 01:51:21,867
Speaker 3: New Zealand time. The race gets underway. We'll keep you

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01:51:21,907 --> 01:51:24,907
Speaker 3: up to date on the show tomorrow. Speaking of keeping

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01:51:24,907 --> 01:51:28,267
Speaker 3: you updated, I can tell you from the Bunnings ENDPC

2193
01:51:28,667 --> 01:51:32,427
Speaker 3: quarter final that Hawks may have just scored a second

2194
01:51:32,587 --> 01:51:36,907
Speaker 3: try and lead twelve points to seven. Now twelve points

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01:51:36,947 --> 01:51:40,227
Speaker 3: to seven. They were seven niel down, but a couple

2196
01:51:40,227 --> 01:51:43,387
Speaker 3: of tries, the most recent of which has just happened,

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01:51:43,587 --> 01:51:45,147
Speaker 3: have them into a twelve to seven lead with a

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Speaker 3: kick to come after thirty one minutes. So the Battle

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Speaker 3: of the Bays is well and truly. On twenty two

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01:51:50,947 --> 01:51:53,587
Speaker 3: to three, when we come back, we reflect on the

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Speaker 3: glittering career of Raphanadal.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions off the turf weekends for It with

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01:52:00,267 --> 01:52:04,227
Speaker 1: Jason Pin and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

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01:52:04,267 --> 01:52:05,067
Speaker 1: builder News.

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01:52:04,907 --> 01:52:10,067
Speaker 3: Dogs v nineteen to three Raffernadale has announced his retirement

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01:52:10,107 --> 01:52:14,747
Speaker 3: from professional tennis.

2207
01:52:14,347 --> 01:52:23,787
Speaker 20: Madame It's fourteen and twenty two sixteen. The legend that

2208
01:52:23,947 --> 01:52:27,067
Speaker 20: is Raphael Nadal continues to grow.

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Speaker 3: Nadal's thirty eight now. He's won twenty two major titles,

2210
01:52:31,227 --> 01:52:34,707
Speaker 3: including fourteen at the French Open, but has struggled with

2211
01:52:34,787 --> 01:52:37,627
Speaker 3: various injuries over the last couple of years. Only Novak

2212
01:52:37,667 --> 01:52:42,067
Speaker 3: Djokovic with twenty four has won more major titles. Rafferodeal's

2213
01:52:42,107 --> 01:52:44,627
Speaker 3: final outing will be for Spain in the Davis Cup

2214
01:52:44,667 --> 01:52:47,427
Speaker 3: Finals next month. There wouldn't be too many people, I

2215
01:52:47,427 --> 01:52:50,507
Speaker 3: don't reckon who have seen more of Raffainadhal than Graham

2216
01:52:50,627 --> 01:52:54,507
Speaker 3: AGAs who joins us now. Graham, where does Rafa sit

2217
01:52:54,747 --> 01:52:57,707
Speaker 3: among the great players you've watched down the years.

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01:52:58,547 --> 01:53:01,707
Speaker 4: Well, he's locked down the category of best clay court ever,

2219
01:53:02,147 --> 01:53:04,707
Speaker 4: stealing that from beyond Borg and doing it, as you

2220
01:53:04,827 --> 01:53:09,907
Speaker 4: said in style fourteen French Open championships. In fact, if

2221
01:53:09,907 --> 01:53:12,787
Speaker 4: you look at his clay court record, there was a

2222
01:53:12,867 --> 01:53:16,867
Speaker 4: period of time between April two thousand and four and

2223
01:53:16,987 --> 01:53:20,427
Speaker 4: May two thousand and seven where he was unbeaten on

2224
01:53:20,547 --> 01:53:24,267
Speaker 4: clay anywhere in the world. He won eighty one matches

2225
01:53:24,347 --> 01:53:28,267
Speaker 4: during that streach stretch. Nobody has ever come close to that,

2226
01:53:28,947 --> 01:53:32,387
Speaker 4: so he certainly locked in the clay court side of it.

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01:53:32,667 --> 01:53:36,667
Speaker 4: The other side, I think the grand's flame rankings let's

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01:53:36,667 --> 01:53:41,107
Speaker 4: call him twenty four, Novak, twenty two Rufa and twenty

2229
01:53:41,387 --> 01:53:46,187
Speaker 4: Roger Federer speak for themselves. You can pick or choose

2230
01:53:46,227 --> 01:53:49,387
Speaker 4: your favorite amongst those, but I think those three guys

2231
01:53:49,507 --> 01:53:54,227
Speaker 4: drove each other through that era which is finally coming

2232
01:53:54,267 --> 01:53:57,107
Speaker 4: to an end. Roger's already on the sidelines, Rufa about

2233
01:53:57,147 --> 01:54:00,227
Speaker 4: to be, and who knows with Novak, he's getten up

2234
01:54:00,227 --> 01:54:00,867
Speaker 4: there as well.

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01:54:01,667 --> 01:54:09,947
Speaker 3: What made Reffer so potent on clay.

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01:54:07,307 --> 01:54:10,027
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, stamina. I mean you could see

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01:54:10,027 --> 01:54:15,027
Speaker 4: how strong the guide was. Secondly, he came in in

2238
01:54:15,067 --> 01:54:19,027
Speaker 4: an era where they could fiddle around with the strings

2239
01:54:19,027 --> 01:54:21,627
Speaker 4: in the racket, and they had a bigger head in

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Speaker 4: the racket, bigger than Borg played with, for example, who

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01:54:24,707 --> 01:54:29,147
Speaker 4: was previously considered, I guess the master of the clay.

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01:54:29,867 --> 01:54:34,667
Speaker 4: And in addition to his strength and stamina, he hit

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01:54:34,787 --> 01:54:39,467
Speaker 4: with enormous spin, so that not only was the ball

2244
01:54:39,467 --> 01:54:42,507
Speaker 4: coming at you at speed, but when I hit the ground,

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01:54:42,507 --> 01:54:45,427
Speaker 4: it sort of launched into you and it just made

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01:54:45,507 --> 01:54:49,427
Speaker 4: him waring to play, and the fact that he could

2247
01:54:49,467 --> 01:54:51,627
Speaker 4: run all day and all night if he had to

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01:54:52,547 --> 01:54:55,547
Speaker 4: just made him the hardest guy in the dirt to beat.

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01:54:56,267 --> 01:54:59,387
Speaker 4: He was spectacular and had most guys beaten before they

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01:54:59,427 --> 01:55:00,507
Speaker 4: even went out on court.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't just Roland Garris, of course, you know

2252
01:55:03,867 --> 01:55:06,267
Speaker 3: a couple of Australian Opens, a couple of Wimbledon title

2253
01:55:06,867 --> 01:55:09,307
Speaker 3: four at the US Open, So was it a stamina

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01:55:09,387 --> 01:55:12,787
Speaker 3: in fitness again, which were the bedrock for those titles.

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Speaker 4: Well, that show's adaptability too. I mean he wasn't just

2256
01:55:17,107 --> 01:55:20,947
Speaker 4: a dirt baller. He could change his game, as he said,

2257
01:55:20,987 --> 01:55:24,307
Speaker 4: to win two times at Wimbledon and then you know,

2258
01:55:24,387 --> 01:55:26,347
Speaker 4: pick up wins on the hard courts at the Australian

2259
01:55:26,427 --> 01:55:30,547
Speaker 4: Open the US Open as well show just how versatile

2260
01:55:30,587 --> 01:55:32,827
Speaker 4: he was. He still sort of played the same way,

2261
01:55:33,507 --> 01:55:36,867
Speaker 4: but he could adapt this game, including improving his serve

2262
01:55:36,907 --> 01:55:41,947
Speaker 4: for grass to get results as there as well as

2263
01:55:42,027 --> 01:55:44,347
Speaker 4: on the dirt. So if you look at his wind

2264
01:55:44,387 --> 01:55:47,827
Speaker 4: loss career, which is probably the best indicator of how

2265
01:55:47,827 --> 01:55:53,147
Speaker 4: he played throughout his whole career on any surface indoor, outdoor, grass,

2266
01:55:53,147 --> 01:55:56,987
Speaker 4: hardcourt or clay, win loss record of one thousand and

2267
01:55:57,187 --> 01:56:00,787
Speaker 4: eighty wins just two hundred and twenty seven losses, So

2268
01:56:00,907 --> 01:56:04,227
Speaker 4: that is a dominant guy, not just on the clay.

2269
01:56:04,587 --> 01:56:07,507
Speaker 4: He also, in addition to know winning those twenty two

2270
01:56:07,507 --> 01:56:11,987
Speaker 4: Grand Slam singles titles, had ninety two singles wins on

2271
01:56:12,027 --> 01:56:16,147
Speaker 4: the ATB Tour, led stain to four Datas Cup victories,

2272
01:56:16,587 --> 01:56:20,067
Speaker 4: and he's just one of eight male players in the

2273
01:56:20,147 --> 01:56:24,547
Speaker 4: history of tennis to won all four Grand Slams at

2274
01:56:24,667 --> 01:56:27,587
Speaker 4: least once in their career. So you know, he's in

2275
01:56:27,627 --> 01:56:30,547
Speaker 4: a very, very elevated category.

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01:56:30,747 --> 01:56:33,547
Speaker 3: The numbers are astonishing. Let's talk about his battles with

2277
01:56:33,587 --> 01:56:36,987
Speaker 3: the other two, Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic. A twenty

2278
01:56:37,067 --> 01:56:42,467
Speaker 3: four to sixteen record against Roger Federer, that's overall ten

2279
01:56:42,947 --> 01:56:46,147
Speaker 3: to four in Grand Slams, against Jokovic eleven to seven

2280
01:56:46,307 --> 01:56:51,027
Speaker 3: Grand slams, but overall twenty nine wins to Djokovic's thirty one.

2281
01:56:51,587 --> 01:56:53,707
Speaker 3: Why did he have greater trouble with Djokovic?

2282
01:56:56,107 --> 01:56:58,547
Speaker 4: I think he figured out how to play Roger Federer.

2283
01:56:58,787 --> 01:57:03,507
Speaker 4: In fact, you know, when Federer's dominating the game, Rufa

2284
01:57:03,627 --> 01:57:05,427
Speaker 4: was the first one to figure out that if you

2285
01:57:05,587 --> 01:57:10,707
Speaker 4: kept attacking Roger's single handed backhand. You would certainly lose

2286
01:57:10,747 --> 01:57:12,987
Speaker 4: points because Roger could flip him over the net in

2287
01:57:13,027 --> 01:57:17,307
Speaker 4: any direction, but you would probably win more points than

2288
01:57:17,347 --> 01:57:19,627
Speaker 4: you would lose. And that's when he started to beat

2289
01:57:19,707 --> 01:57:24,987
Speaker 4: Roger Federer on a regular occasion. But Novak was kind

2290
01:57:25,027 --> 01:57:28,507
Speaker 4: of between Federer and Nadel and the way he played.

2291
01:57:29,067 --> 01:57:30,747
Speaker 4: I read a piece the other day from one of

2292
01:57:30,787 --> 01:57:35,947
Speaker 4: the former coaches. Can't remember his name now because it

2293
01:57:36,027 --> 01:57:38,907
Speaker 4: was an insignificant name to me, but he had been

2294
01:57:38,947 --> 01:57:42,827
Speaker 4: a hitting partner of all three players at some stage

2295
01:57:43,347 --> 01:57:45,547
Speaker 4: during his time in tennis, and he was asked to

2296
01:57:45,587 --> 01:57:49,867
Speaker 4: describe the players. If he had a blindfold on, would

2297
01:57:49,907 --> 01:57:52,747
Speaker 4: he know who he was playing. So he started with

2298
01:57:52,947 --> 01:57:56,307
Speaker 4: Federer and he said, Federer, you could tell by the

2299
01:57:56,347 --> 01:57:59,507
Speaker 4: sheer precision of the strike of the ball. It was

2300
01:57:59,667 --> 01:58:03,067
Speaker 4: just perfect every time it came to you. He said,

2301
01:58:03,107 --> 01:58:07,707
Speaker 4: with Rafa, it was the shot that just bounced off

2302
01:58:07,747 --> 01:58:10,347
Speaker 4: the court and leapt into you. And this is the

2303
01:58:10,387 --> 01:58:14,947
Speaker 4: most interesting comment of all. He said Novak had an

2304
01:58:15,107 --> 01:58:19,267
Speaker 4: arrogance about the way he hit the ball. And his

2305
01:58:19,427 --> 01:58:22,427
Speaker 4: conclusion was Novak was actually the best player of all

2306
01:58:22,507 --> 01:58:26,547
Speaker 4: three in terms of just sheer winning ability. And he

2307
01:58:26,587 --> 01:58:28,907
Speaker 4: did it by carrying a sort of an arrogance on

2308
01:58:29,027 --> 01:58:32,587
Speaker 4: court and being able to hit shots like feder and

2309
01:58:32,747 --> 01:58:36,307
Speaker 4: like Nadal if he had to. So there was nowhere

2310
01:58:36,347 --> 01:58:39,907
Speaker 4: you could put him where he had a weakness, and

2311
01:58:39,987 --> 01:58:43,907
Speaker 4: I think that's why Ruffa and many other players struggled

2312
01:58:43,907 --> 01:58:44,507
Speaker 4: against him.

2313
01:58:44,587 --> 01:58:48,467
Speaker 3: Geane, that's great insight. Left handers. Is he the greatest

2314
01:58:48,507 --> 01:58:52,427
Speaker 3: left hander? McEnroe, Connors Liver, Is he the greatest left handed?

2315
01:58:52,467 --> 01:58:52,707
Speaker 17: Grin?

2316
01:58:54,307 --> 01:58:56,467
Speaker 4: Well, here's something most people don't know. He's actually a

2317
01:58:56,547 --> 01:59:00,467
Speaker 4: right handed and he plays tennis. He plays tennis left handed,

2318
01:59:00,507 --> 01:59:02,907
Speaker 4: so if you go and get his autographed, he's not

2319
01:59:03,027 --> 01:59:07,187
Speaker 4: signing with his which is weird. I think he plays

2320
01:59:07,227 --> 01:59:10,827
Speaker 4: golf right handed as well. You've got to put him

2321
01:59:10,867 --> 01:59:14,827
Speaker 4: up there. I mean, it's so difficult to compare errors

2322
01:59:14,907 --> 01:59:18,987
Speaker 4: because you can only beat the players in front of you,

2323
01:59:18,987 --> 01:59:21,907
Speaker 4: you know, so Labor didn't have to beat Federer, for example.

2324
01:59:22,427 --> 01:59:25,067
Speaker 4: So just put him up there as one of the

2325
01:59:25,067 --> 01:59:29,187
Speaker 4: great all time players and on clay, yes, the best,

2326
01:59:29,547 --> 01:59:31,667
Speaker 4: the best left hander of all time for sure.

2327
01:59:32,067 --> 01:59:34,627
Speaker 3: In the last two years, unfortunately for ref and Adal

2328
01:59:34,707 --> 01:59:36,987
Speaker 3: have seen age and his body catch up with him.

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Speaker 3: I guess rick by injury did he hang on for

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01:59:39,027 --> 01:59:40,187
Speaker 3: a bit long groat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the longest retirement I've ever seen. It's

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01:59:44,907 --> 01:59:50,347
Speaker 4: taken three years. You know, where the people out on

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01:59:50,387 --> 01:59:54,107
Speaker 4: the road regularly. You know, I'd pretty much given up

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01:59:54,107 --> 01:59:57,587
Speaker 4: on Rafa three years ago, but admired him for his

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01:59:57,707 --> 02:00:00,387
Speaker 4: courage and his determination, his sheer love of the game

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Speaker 4: to keep going. So nobody was ever critical about it.

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Speaker 4: But if you look at him as far as a

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02:00:06,667 --> 02:00:09,427
Speaker 4: physical specimen is concerned, I mean, he was a monster,

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Speaker 4: wasn't He was so strong, and he wore those sleeveless

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02:00:13,627 --> 02:00:16,627
Speaker 4: shirts to show off his biceps and and all that

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02:00:16,667 --> 02:00:23,707
Speaker 4: sort of stuff. But injuries foot, ankle, hip, knee, hamstring,

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Speaker 4: and you can toss in appendicitis, and he had to

2343
02:00:26,627 --> 02:00:30,267
Speaker 4: have an appendix out in two thousand and four. So

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02:00:30,747 --> 02:00:33,627
Speaker 4: I mean, the guy kept the doctors happy because there

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02:00:33,707 --> 02:00:36,027
Speaker 4: was always something going on. And part of that was

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02:00:36,067 --> 02:00:40,307
Speaker 4: because of the ferocious nature that he not only played

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02:00:40,307 --> 02:00:43,627
Speaker 4: the game, but he practiced exactly the same. I went

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02:00:43,667 --> 02:00:48,587
Speaker 4: through many rougher practice sessions and came away exhausted because

2349
02:00:48,667 --> 02:00:51,907
Speaker 4: he played them just like he did play matches. I mean,

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02:00:51,907 --> 02:00:54,627
Speaker 4: it was full on all the time. So it was

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02:00:54,667 --> 02:00:59,707
Speaker 4: inevitable that injuries would finally force him out of the game,

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02:00:59,747 --> 02:01:02,347
Speaker 4: because otherwise, you know, he would have played till he

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02:01:02,427 --> 02:01:06,547
Speaker 4: was seventy. But that's what's happened. He's got so many problems,

2354
02:01:06,587 --> 02:01:10,227
Speaker 4: gets one right and another one flares up, but he's

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02:01:10,307 --> 02:01:12,227
Speaker 4: just got to give up the game. But you know,

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02:01:12,307 --> 02:01:15,187
Speaker 4: he's done, okay, one hundred and thirty five million US

2357
02:01:15,227 --> 02:01:19,907
Speaker 4: dollars in prize money and a networth including sponsorships estimated

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02:01:20,027 --> 02:01:23,867
Speaker 4: at a quarter of a billion US dollars, So he's

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02:01:24,187 --> 02:01:27,347
Speaker 4: banked a lot of change during that career, and a

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02:01:27,347 --> 02:01:29,787
Speaker 4: lot of people have enjoyed paying to watch him play.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I think he's going to be okay, just to

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02:01:32,187 --> 02:01:35,307
Speaker 3: finish raff of the person, what was he like to

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Speaker 3: deal with? How did you observe the way he carried

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Speaker 3: himself around the tennis circuit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, second to none, right up there with Roger Federer.

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Speaker 4: He first of all, he cared about the game. He

2367
02:01:48,307 --> 02:01:50,947
Speaker 4: was humble enough to care about the people in the game.

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02:01:51,427 --> 02:01:56,587
Speaker 4: He always respected his opponents, and Raffa never ceased to

2369
02:01:56,707 --> 02:02:00,147
Speaker 4: applaud his opponent after they'd lost to him when they

2370
02:02:00,227 --> 02:02:03,067
Speaker 4: left the court. You would have seen it everybody sees it.

2371
02:02:03,147 --> 02:02:05,627
Speaker 4: He used to go back to his chair and when

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02:02:05,627 --> 02:02:08,227
Speaker 4: they left, he would stand and applaud, which gave an

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Speaker 4: indication of his respect for the other players, and the

2374
02:02:12,947 --> 02:02:15,867
Speaker 4: players respected him so much, so much so that he

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02:02:15,987 --> 02:02:19,347
Speaker 4: spent six years right in the prime of his career

2376
02:02:19,947 --> 02:02:23,067
Speaker 4: as a member of the very powerful ATP Player Council,

2377
02:02:23,107 --> 02:02:26,667
Speaker 4: which really provided the governance for the game year in

2378
02:02:26,707 --> 02:02:31,147
Speaker 4: and year out. So just a wonderful ambassador for tennis.

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02:02:31,467 --> 02:02:33,867
Speaker 4: And he'll be missed, but he won't go away. Ruffa

2380
02:02:33,867 --> 02:02:35,747
Speaker 4: will be around the game one way or the other

2381
02:02:36,907 --> 02:02:39,387
Speaker 4: going forward because he just loves the game so much.

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02:02:39,427 --> 02:02:43,467
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't recall ever having a bad

2383
02:02:43,507 --> 02:02:46,627
Speaker 4: moment with Ruffa. He always came into the press conferences

2384
02:02:47,107 --> 02:02:49,827
Speaker 4: after a loss, even if it really hurt him. He

2385
02:02:49,947 --> 02:02:52,147
Speaker 4: was always trying to give a good answer, even though

2386
02:02:52,147 --> 02:02:56,227
Speaker 4: he were speaking not in his native language. And as

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02:02:56,227 --> 02:02:59,067
Speaker 4: I said, he had the respect of pretty much everybody

2388
02:02:59,067 --> 02:03:02,347
Speaker 4: in the game because of the way he carried himself throughout,

2389
02:03:02,427 --> 02:03:04,947
Speaker 4: right up there with Roger Federer, and it wasn't surprising

2390
02:03:05,667 --> 02:03:09,747
Speaker 4: that those two guys, apart from a couple of moments

2391
02:03:10,147 --> 02:03:13,187
Speaker 4: between them, you know, we're the best of friends and

2392
02:03:13,667 --> 02:03:16,467
Speaker 4: share the great reverence for the game of tennants.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure we'll see the like of him again.

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02:03:18,987 --> 02:03:20,907
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your time this afternoon. Graham really

2395
02:03:20,907 --> 02:03:21,547
Speaker 3: appreciate it.

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02:03:21,387 --> 02:03:22,747
Speaker 4: It's a pleasure. Jason.

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02:03:22,787 --> 02:03:25,627
Speaker 3: Thanks, no, thank you, mate. That is Graham Agaz reflecting

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02:03:25,627 --> 02:03:28,187
Speaker 3: on the career of referen Adal seven and a half

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Speaker 3: to three News Talks.

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Speaker 1: EDB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

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Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Pine. They're call eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty and eighty News Talks eNB four to three.

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Speaker 3: That's us after midday tomorrow, Nigelowen's one of our best

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Speaker 3: ever rugby referees on the prospect of a twenty minute

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02:03:46,707 --> 02:03:49,467
Speaker 3: red card. Hawks Bay lead Bay of plenty twelve seven

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Speaker 3: at halftime. Thank you for listening in Andy, Thank you

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Speaker 3: for producing what is our exit song today? Well, it's

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02:03:55,067 --> 02:03:56,227
Speaker 3: an interesting date, Piney.

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Speaker 29: Today mark's forty five years since the debut of Magic

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02:03:59,827 --> 02:04:02,387
Speaker 29: Johnson and Larry Bird in the NBA. So to honor

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Speaker 29: that time honored rivalry of those two, I've gone for

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02:04:05,587 --> 02:04:08,187
Speaker 29: the Great Queen's You're my Best Friend.

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Speaker 15: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Say you tomorrow midday.

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