1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty unparalleled reach 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 1: and results. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: Today on the Huddle, Josie Pigani, CEO at child vand 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: and Trish Sarson who is Sheerson willis pr Hello people, Hello, Hello. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 3: And all female huddle Andrew so apologize for. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: Man except for me? I oh, you want me to 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: apologize for being a man. I'm going to talk about 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: budget spokelers later, but that look, we have to start 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: with the big story of the day, which continues to 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: be the big story of the day and I don't 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: know why, and it's driving everybody completely potty and bananas. 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: And this is the continuing saga of Darlene Tanner and 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: the absence of like a jumping by the Greens, and 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: of course the PACIFICA leadership, who I don't know. Let 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: this start with you, Josie, did the PACIFICA leadership actually 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: did more damage to the Greens than Darlene Tanner? 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 4: Possibly? 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 3: I mean, I think what this shows you is that 19 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: the Greens have taken so long on this, I mean 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 3: five months initially to do the report. We're all over it. 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: But it's not just Darlene Tano who's doing work it's 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: the Greens, the whole party. You know, I was just 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: completely dominating their entire year, and so there's been no 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: benefits to the delay for all these reasons about you know, 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: due process and so on, and and so I think 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: they've sort of they've they've made this problem worse for themselves. 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: Now you've got the PACIFICA Group coming out, you're right, 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: And I think what this shows is that, you know, 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: you've got the PACIFICA Group saying they feel unsafe because 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 3: of the you know, the white members of the Green 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: Party and so on, and because the Greens have this 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: kind of democracy of views, all views are treated equally, 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: they've got no language to push back on the identity 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: politics when it comes to something like you know, there's 35 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: a right and a wrong, and so they kind of 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: get they get paralyzed, and they're just stuck in this 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: sort of you know, there are no good ideas or 38 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: bad ideas. 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Or they're stuck in most they're stuck in no person's land. 40 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: Efficient Yeah, I would. 41 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: Just be one other thing very quickly add And you 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: know Fesso Colin, who was a colleague of mine through 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: the Labor Party days, and I do remember him saying, 44 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: you know, I need we're going to teach, We're going 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: to show the Greens that the cool kids are not 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: in the CBD, They're not in Central England, They're out 47 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: in South Side, They're out in South Ekland. So there 48 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: is a problem there, I think in the Green Party. 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: And it's a bit more substantive. 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: You were with her visa on the day and you 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: work with him, and there they are going, well, here's 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: the thing, Tricia. Almost everybody who's rational to say, well, 53 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: tell those guys to shut up and just get rid 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: of the woman. 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: Well, I think you know, one thing this is showing 56 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: is what the Green Party have lost in not having 57 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: James Shaw as their co leader. It also demonstrates their 58 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: inability to take action at speed. So when it comes 59 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: to climate action, I would say good luck everybody. You know, 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 4: they secretly stripped Darling Tana of her portfolios in early February. 61 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: They are not now going to vote on whether to 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: start the process to kick her out of the party 63 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: until one September. As Josie said, that is seven months 64 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: just to reach an inconclusive consensus, a conclusive consensus on 65 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 4: decisions over one MP. But what it has provided us 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 4: with is a whole new word salad on the political menu, 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: just to give you a flavor. We've got my pronouns, 68 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: are they them? So I'm never alone. We've had a 69 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 4: lot of holding space, we had a lot of lived experience. 70 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: We've over the weekend, we've had inflamed and weaponized and 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: also added to that, we've had power based on the 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: assumed rightness of whiteness. So to Josie's point, it is 73 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: no wonder that they are bogged down in identity politics 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: because they just aren't able to talk straight. 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: No kidding, processive. Thank you so beautify, said so Josie McGarty. 76 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty Exceptional market 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: for every Property, with. 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: Tris Sesson and jose Pegany. Now we'll get to the Olympics. 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: And here's a story you may or may not know about. 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: There was a considerable excitement in the newsroom over a 81 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: knight and shining budgie smugglers at the Olympic pool over 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: the course of this morning. Turns out a female swimmer 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: lost her cap in the pool in an official volunteered 84 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: to retrieve it. So he strode proudly in front of 85 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: the crowds magnificently, I would even posit to say, and 86 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: the TV cameras, of course were there. He was resplendent 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: and the most magnificent pair of florally patterned budgy smugglers, 88 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: not high cut, can I add? There were trunk style right. 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: He then executed a perfect dive into the pool, straight 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: to the pool's floor, retrieved the cap, exited the pool 91 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: with the plumb to great applause. Obviously a swimmer, though 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: the paunch suggests that he was well retired. So the 93 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: talk is now obviously about the togs, particularly amongst younger 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: stuff in the newsroom, particularly about women who say, ooh 95 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: what was that about? They were tittering and ghoring. So 96 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: my question is Trish budgie smugglers your thoughts? 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: Well, it certainly was a confident pant and you've described 98 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 4: it beautifully Andrew over the radio. But in terms of 99 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: what Euros normally strut around in Don's laplage at the beach, 100 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: these were less budgy smugglers in my view, and more 101 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: of what I would term a modesty pant. But the 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 4: question for me is who wears these just on the 103 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: off chance they'll need to strip down to receive retrieve 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 4: a swim cap. 105 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: Retired officials who used to be professional swimmers. I guess, 106 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: Josephe your thoughts on the budgie smuggler. 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: Well, I lived in Paris for three years and my 108 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: husband used to go to the pool take the kids 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: of the pool, and my husband got basically got chucked 110 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: out of the pool for not wearing budgie smugglers because 111 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: it's actually almost illegal in France not to wear budget smugglers. 112 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: Because they think that we think the board shorts are 113 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: better and clean it. They think that that I guess 114 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: you're meating two potatoes is going to be flapping around 115 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: in their board shorts, so they say you actually cannot 116 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: go to the pool. I don't know what to still saying. 117 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 3: This is in twenty seven, that you could not go 118 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: to the pool unless you're in budget smugglers, and you know, 119 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: my husband would agree with me that was not a 120 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: necessarily pretty sight. 121 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: All right, there's enough of that. Tax cuts are coming 122 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: this week and I've got the finance minister after six o'clock. 123 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: How excited are you for your tax cut? Trish? What 124 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: do you think about them? You will you even notice them. 125 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: Trish, Well, I'm not really thinking of them from a 126 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: personal perspective, and I don't think any many people probably are. 127 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: But I think more importantly from a political perspective. For 128 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 4: the government, this is all part of them being able 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 4: to demonstrate to New Zealanders that they are doing something 130 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: about the cost of living, and this is the government's 131 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: way of being able to have people feel that directly 132 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 4: in their wallets. But don't forget the big burst of 133 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: under the saddle and under the government and everyone else's 134 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: saddles is still actually interest rates and those increases for families, 135 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: and the demand that's putting on household budgets is absolutely enormous. 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: So yes that the Finance Minister will be very pleased 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: that these are now coming into effect and putting a 138 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: few dollars back, but she will also be looking across 139 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: the road at the Reserve Bank governor, hoping that sooner 140 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: rather than later. I'm sure he also does his bit 141 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: with interest rates. 142 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: Well, this was the budge smuggler of tax cuts. Really. 143 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's basically the equivalent of a packet of 144 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: Huggies for most families. But that's something that's something that 145 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: people think it's nothing, will feel free to donate it 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: to charities like ChildFund. But I still think, Andrew, you 147 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: look at this, I think there's what fourteen billion dollars 148 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: in tax cuts over four years. I think at the 149 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: same time DAT is going to go up by thirty 150 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: two billion dollars. That's government debt. So, in other words, 151 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: this tax cut is still being paid by debt. And 152 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: if it's being paid by debt, all you're doing is 153 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: making sure that people are going to have to pay 154 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: more tax in the future, and that will probably be 155 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: me and you, let alone everybody else who's younger than us. 156 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: So it's not really a tax cut, and it's not 157 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: doing anything about productivity and growing the economy. You know, 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: it's a bit of a damp squid. It's a budge smuggler. 159 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Josie, and thank you so much, Trish. 160 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 161 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 162 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.