WEBVTT - Ganesh Raj: Stretching your food to last longer 0:00:05.761 --> 0:00:09.721 You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News talks'd be. 0:00:30.401 --> 0:00:32.881 And welcome back to the Weekend Collective. Thanks for all 0:00:32.921 --> 0:00:34.961 your feedback on politics. Century You can go and listen 0:00:35.001 --> 0:00:36.601 to that hour again if you want to look for 0:00:36.641 --> 0:00:40.641 the Weekend Collective of wherever you podcast, I suggest iHeartRadio 0:00:40.681 --> 0:00:43.401 or the News Talk because it'd be website. But now 0:00:43.601 --> 0:00:45.881 we're shifting away from the politics because that was a 0:00:45.881 --> 0:00:47.961 feisty little hour. I don't mind telling you, so we 0:00:48.041 --> 0:00:50.601 got to be it's time to spread some love. And 0:00:50.641 --> 0:00:53.281 what better way to spread some love than to talk 0:00:53.321 --> 0:00:56.081 about healthy eating and food? Because who doesn't love food? 0:00:56.961 --> 0:00:59.921 I actually do. Funny thing is before I inventsrush my guest, 0:01:00.001 --> 0:01:01.681 I do know someone who doesn't enjoy food. And I 0:01:01.681 --> 0:01:03.521 won't say who he is, but if somebody actually works 0:01:03.521 --> 0:01:04.721 here and I have a bit to do with, but 0:01:04.801 --> 0:01:07.721 he just doesn't enjoy eating. It's just he just eats 0:01:08.001 --> 0:01:10.241 what he needs to for sustenance to stay alive, but 0:01:10.401 --> 0:01:13.561 never really and he's quite It's quite unusual. But most 0:01:13.601 --> 0:01:16.001 people do enjoy food, and I'm pretty sure my guest 0:01:16.121 --> 0:01:20.601 now enjoys food because he's well. His life, his career 0:01:20.721 --> 0:01:23.841 is food his name is gesche Go. 0:01:24.121 --> 0:01:27.241 Well I was, I was really good until that story. 0:01:27.281 --> 0:01:30.681 And now I'm really sad for that person who just 0:01:30.761 --> 0:01:32.681 can't see the joy in food. 0:01:32.801 --> 0:01:35.001 I just actually wonder if there's something If your taste 0:01:35.001 --> 0:01:38.441 buds don't deliver the same message that other people's taste 0:01:38.441 --> 0:01:40.681 buds deliver, maybe there are people who just don't enjoy eating, 0:01:40.921 --> 0:01:43.161 you know, is there such I love? 0:01:43.361 --> 0:01:45.841 I mean, I get too much. I understand the people 0:01:45.881 --> 0:01:48.481 that do eat just for sustenance, Like I get it. 0:01:48.521 --> 0:01:51.121 I see some like you know, whether it's weight loss 0:01:51.121 --> 0:01:53.201 programs or putting on you know, these kind of fixed 0:01:53.281 --> 0:01:55.321 meals that people are supposed to eat five times a 0:01:55.401 --> 0:01:55.681 day for. 0:01:55.881 --> 0:01:57.361 Oh that would that would do me? 0:01:57.721 --> 0:01:59.841 And and and you know, all power to you for 0:01:59.881 --> 0:02:03.081 the discipline it takes. But I require more than that 0:02:03.161 --> 0:02:03.921 from my food. 0:02:04.121 --> 0:02:08.001 Actually, we went my brother is visiting from Australia, and 0:02:08.041 --> 0:02:10.121 a bunch of us went out with my girls to 0:02:10.641 --> 0:02:14.881 a tie restaurant last night. And it's been a new ownership. 0:02:14.881 --> 0:02:18.481 And I had a probably a cliche sort of prawns 0:02:18.481 --> 0:02:21.161 and cash and at dish, But I tell you what, 0:02:22.161 --> 0:02:24.201 the flavors of that cooking when they get it right 0:02:24.281 --> 0:02:26.001 it's just like you're happy. 0:02:26.081 --> 0:02:28.401 You're so happy. Look at you. If people can see 0:02:28.401 --> 0:02:32.561 your face right now, your face is exactly what you're thinking. 0:02:32.601 --> 0:02:33.681 Your joy is right there. 0:02:33.721 --> 0:02:35.921 It's just as well they have portion control for that stuff, 0:02:35.961 --> 0:02:39.481 because it's almost like when you have a certain deliciousness. Yes, 0:02:39.521 --> 0:02:42.561 you need to have someone controlling your portion for you, 0:02:42.561 --> 0:02:43.641 because I just keep going. 0:02:43.761 --> 0:02:47.001 The fact that you know the word deliciousness immediately puts 0:02:47.041 --> 0:02:50.401 you and you're very lucky because deliciousness is everything. 0:02:50.881 --> 0:02:53.081 It is I guess it is. 0:02:53.121 --> 0:02:56.441 Actually it is everything because deliciousness is the thing that 0:02:56.521 --> 0:02:59.281 I often talk about as being the only benchmark you 0:02:59.321 --> 0:03:01.761 should have. Don't worry about where the food comes from, 0:03:02.081 --> 0:03:07.481 what country, what the makeup is. Deliciousness is your core 0:03:07.641 --> 0:03:09.561 value system on how you judge. 0:03:09.281 --> 0:03:12.601 Feel ethical sort of side of which comes from. Of course, 0:03:12.641 --> 0:03:14.721 so you do worry about where it comes from, of course. 0:03:15.121 --> 0:03:17.441 But if I know about it, I'm not going to 0:03:17.521 --> 0:03:19.841 order it, right. But if I didn't know about it 0:03:19.881 --> 0:03:22.161 and you told me about it later, I'll forgive myself. 0:03:22.481 --> 0:03:27.841 Yeah, okay, hey, now what by the way, before we 0:03:27.881 --> 0:03:29.561 get into what you've been up to, what are you 0:03:29.641 --> 0:03:32.761 what's cooking? Well, we have metaphorically everything. 0:03:32.801 --> 0:03:35.721 The humble Yum Yum is still cooking. The cooking classes 0:03:35.721 --> 0:03:39.081 are still going with the South Seas Healthcare Trust, teaching 0:03:39.081 --> 0:03:40.921 people how to cook for under twenty five dollars for 0:03:41.001 --> 0:03:44.721 four to six portions. Even in you know, we're today's prices. 0:03:45.001 --> 0:03:46.561 Being able to do that, have you had. 0:03:46.401 --> 0:03:48.401 To add inflation to that? Well, it used to be 0:03:48.401 --> 0:03:52.161 twenty bucks, but irresistibly some stage things cost a bit more. 0:03:52.161 --> 0:03:52.801 I can't remember. 0:03:53.041 --> 0:03:56.281 Yes, it went up from twenty to about twenty four, 0:03:56.881 --> 0:03:59.601 twenty four, twenty four, ninety something. Yeah, no, no, no, that's 0:03:59.641 --> 0:04:01.601 kind of ninety seven or something. Oh yeah, so I 0:04:01.641 --> 0:04:03.681 was able to see under twenty five. But yes, it 0:04:03.721 --> 0:04:06.161 did go out. And my Chris for fifty dollars when 0:04:06.241 --> 0:04:08.601 up for I've got a Christmas for fifty dollars for 0:04:08.681 --> 0:04:11.481 four people. I used to anyway, No, it's sixty yeah, 0:04:11.521 --> 0:04:13.641 and that's just you know, and of course you're. 0:04:13.521 --> 0:04:16.281 Working on another you're working with mate Michael van Deels, 0:04:16.321 --> 0:04:18.481 and yes there is a beat Well for Less or 0:04:18.481 --> 0:04:19.561 something that's correct. 0:04:19.561 --> 0:04:21.441 Season five of You Well for Less is about to 0:04:21.481 --> 0:04:25.521 be shot, so we're excited to get stuck into those families. 0:04:25.561 --> 0:04:28.241 See how much planning goes in advance to that, and 0:04:28.281 --> 0:04:30.001 how much is just like, let's see what happens. 0:04:31.521 --> 0:04:35.401 I think no one does. Let's see what happens. You 0:04:35.441 --> 0:04:38.681 know the fail to plan, plan to fail line. Have 0:04:38.761 --> 0:04:39.361 you heard of that? 0:04:39.481 --> 0:04:41.801 Yes? Well, in fact, yeah, I'm cooking for the family 0:04:41.841 --> 0:04:44.681 tonight and I am well and I'm well prepared. 0:04:44.841 --> 0:04:47.001 Good because you are. I know you. You don't mess 0:04:47.001 --> 0:04:49.121 around in the kitchen, so you would have been well 0:04:49.161 --> 0:04:51.161 prepared regardless of the situation. 0:04:51.721 --> 0:04:54.521 I'm not. I'm a good shift at what I know. 0:04:55.281 --> 0:04:58.441 If I, for instance, if I want to do a risotto, yes, 0:04:58.641 --> 0:05:00.561 I make sure and learn how to do a proper 0:05:01.081 --> 0:05:02.041 all the best type of sheet. 0:05:02.081 --> 0:05:05.081 You'll have the best ingredients. Yeah, I know you. I 0:05:05.121 --> 0:05:05.561 have prayed. 0:05:05.601 --> 0:05:09.521 But anyway, it's not about me. It's about you. But 0:05:09.601 --> 0:05:11.921 it's about you who are listening as well. But yes, 0:05:12.521 --> 0:05:15.321 the topic that we're getting onto plays so much into 0:05:15.401 --> 0:05:20.601 your into your ballpark because we've had the the reveal, 0:05:21.001 --> 0:05:23.681 the big reveal of the three dollar lunches for kids, 0:05:24.921 --> 0:05:30.721 and it's just I was laughing to myself that David 0:05:30.721 --> 0:05:33.081 Seymour was saying, how good it tastes and good one 0:05:33.081 --> 0:05:35.561 would hope so, and one would hope they can deliver it. 0:05:35.801 --> 0:05:38.321 But I jokingly thought to myself, if they were delivering 0:05:38.361 --> 0:05:40.721 those lunches at Bellamies in Parliament, there might be a 0:05:40.721 --> 0:05:45.441 few complaints, but just probably on portion size. But because 0:05:45.441 --> 0:05:49.761 of that announcement about you know, kids eating well hopefully 0:05:49.841 --> 0:05:52.721 under this school lunch program, it's a conversation we can 0:05:52.761 --> 0:05:54.601 all have about, I mean, how much should it take 0:05:54.641 --> 0:05:57.001 to have her? How much should a good lunch cost? 0:05:57.481 --> 0:05:59.801 In a way, and I would suggest that, I mean 0:05:59.801 --> 0:06:03.121 my old school lunches, not that they were not sure 0:06:03.161 --> 0:06:05.161 they were the perfect advertisement because for some time, as 0:06:05.161 --> 0:06:06.921 we did of the old luncheon sausage. 0:06:07.521 --> 0:06:10.161 Don't diss the luncheon sausage, don't do it. 0:06:10.281 --> 0:06:13.201 I did make the mistake of googling was one of 0:06:13.241 --> 0:06:15.761 the products that's available. It was the amount of salt 0:06:15.801 --> 0:06:18.481 on it. And I thought, yeah, I mean look salty. 0:06:18.561 --> 0:06:21.721 As a young human who ran around for four hours 0:06:21.761 --> 0:06:25.321 a day in the sunshine, yeah, a deep fried luncheon 0:06:25.561 --> 0:06:29.881 bun was always delicious. But I think I burnt five 0:06:29.961 --> 0:06:32.681 thousand calories a day back then, so this is like whatever, 0:06:32.801 --> 0:06:35.481 it was just fuel to the engine. It didn't even matter. 0:06:35.921 --> 0:06:39.801 But Is it as hard as people might make it 0:06:39.841 --> 0:06:42.441 to eat cheaply? Or is it simply just a matter 0:06:42.481 --> 0:06:45.361 of education. I mean, you're obviously that's your beef. Education, 0:06:45.481 --> 0:06:45.841 isn't it? 0:06:45.881 --> 0:06:46.161 Well? 0:06:46.441 --> 0:06:52.481 Information and to say how do we approach this? So 0:06:52.561 --> 0:06:56.081 in my mind, food education is freedom, right, That's how 0:06:56.121 --> 0:06:58.921 I talk about it. If you know how to do it, 0:06:58.921 --> 0:07:00.841 it's like a skill that will set you free, no 0:07:00.921 --> 0:07:03.321 matter what budget you have at home, how much money 0:07:03.321 --> 0:07:05.441 you make, and all the real things that you have 0:07:05.441 --> 0:07:09.241 to deal with in life, including them possibly some of 0:07:09.281 --> 0:07:12.041 the little things that some family members will eat and 0:07:12.081 --> 0:07:14.761 some may not, Some might be medical, and some might 0:07:14.801 --> 0:07:18.441 be preferenced. Yes, but this is your life. Yeah, this 0:07:18.521 --> 0:07:20.521 is your stuff that you have to deal with every week. 0:07:20.641 --> 0:07:22.961 So for me, I come at it with empathy to 0:07:22.961 --> 0:07:26.001 begin with, because you have to. Everybody is struggling in 0:07:26.041 --> 0:07:29.641 their own way. Then you're telling them, now, all right, everyone, 0:07:30.001 --> 0:07:32.641 you've got to learn some new stuff so that the 0:07:32.681 --> 0:07:35.121 pressure on you is coming down, and what are the 0:07:35.241 --> 0:07:38.441 key issues around you? So I always talk about do 0:07:38.561 --> 0:07:41.441 the things that you can control, and what can you control? 0:07:41.521 --> 0:07:45.361 You can control planning It might be boring, but it's not. 0:07:45.601 --> 0:07:49.001 It's like the money maker. Planning is the money maker 0:07:49.041 --> 0:07:50.561 and the stress freer. 0:07:50.641 --> 0:07:53.721 Well, it's the time cyber. Ultimately, it's all the good things. 0:07:53.881 --> 0:07:56.241 It's all. There's nothing bad. No one can tell me 0:07:56.361 --> 0:07:59.481 one bad thing about planning. Planning is free of all 0:07:59.521 --> 0:08:00.041 bad things. 0:08:01.281 --> 0:08:04.001 Yes it is, say, oh I get so boring some 0:08:04.081 --> 0:08:06.881 and den and the plan thing or making decisions on 0:08:06.921 --> 0:08:09.641 a large scale for the week is probably a challenge 0:08:09.681 --> 0:08:10.041 in a way. 0:08:10.161 --> 0:08:12.321 Well, I try to what I've tried to say to 0:08:12.361 --> 0:08:16.361 people is planning is important, but don't plan too far ahead, because, 0:08:16.401 --> 0:08:19.561 like you said, that's a setup for failure. I could 0:08:19.641 --> 0:08:22.641 never plan for seven days. It's just too much. So 0:08:22.761 --> 0:08:25.681 I tell everyone, just do three days. And within those 0:08:25.721 --> 0:08:28.601 three days, we're going to address school lunches and work lunches. 0:08:29.121 --> 0:08:31.761 We're going to make all our meals planned for in 0:08:31.801 --> 0:08:34.481 a way that they provide. Let's call it a family 0:08:34.521 --> 0:08:37.961 of four, just for convenience, a family of four going 0:08:38.041 --> 0:08:42.441 to get a meal each and two leftovers. 0:08:43.441 --> 0:08:45.881 Actually, that's also a good reason why you it's in 0:08:45.961 --> 0:08:48.161 our household. In fact, my wife plans the meals out. 0:08:48.201 --> 0:08:52.041 In fact sometimes cook on Sunday. Sure, actually do things 0:08:52.041 --> 0:08:53.361 that are ready to heat and eat and by the 0:08:53.401 --> 0:08:55.481 time you've got to Wednesday you realize you haven't eaten 0:08:55.561 --> 0:08:58.241 it at all, and that's the leftovers for Thursday. Then 0:08:58.281 --> 0:09:00.481 you have something a bit cheap and easy on Friday, 0:09:00.481 --> 0:09:01.881 and then all of a sudden there's sort of week's 0:09:01.881 --> 0:09:02.441 all done. 0:09:02.721 --> 0:09:07.041 Yeah, I mean, see, so you're a relationship with food 0:09:07.041 --> 0:09:11.281 and awares. You've got too much choice in a roundabout 0:09:11.321 --> 0:09:13.601 sort of way. Oh yeah, you know what I mean. Yes, 0:09:13.921 --> 0:09:15.801 you've got choice to the point of guend Now, that'll 0:09:15.841 --> 0:09:17.841 sit in the freezer for a couple more days. I'm 0:09:17.881 --> 0:09:20.721 going to have this fried noodle I read about from 0:09:20.761 --> 0:09:22.961 my friend at this shop down the road. 0:09:23.241 --> 0:09:25.801 Unless you're going to give me a respect, let's just 0:09:25.801 --> 0:09:28.481 starting on something focused. How much should you be able 0:09:28.481 --> 0:09:32.641 to give your kids if you were just looking at lunches, 0:09:32.681 --> 0:09:35.241 so if you're treating them separately, because you might want 0:09:35.281 --> 0:09:37.721 to build it into a whole thing, but how simple 0:09:37.721 --> 0:09:42.041 should it be to provide your children with lunch? Now 0:09:42.161 --> 0:09:43.761 this is not meant from a political point of view 0:09:43.761 --> 0:09:45.641 to beat up on people who oh no, no, I don't 0:09:45.681 --> 0:09:48.601 do that, but for kids. You know, the majority of 0:09:48.641 --> 0:09:50.641 kids in New Zealand still have their lunch provided by 0:09:50.641 --> 0:09:54.041 their parents. Yes, to me, it shouldn't cost more than 0:09:54.561 --> 0:09:57.361 I don't know, I'm thinking a piece of fruit. Well, 0:09:57.361 --> 0:09:59.721 do the ma sandwich About three bucks sounds about right. 0:09:59.801 --> 0:10:02.561 Let's do the math on the yumyam. Twenty five dollars 0:10:02.801 --> 0:10:06.521 gives you four to six portions. Let's just at six. Okay, 0:10:06.681 --> 0:10:10.601 So twenty five divide it by six is worth four bucks? Yeah, yeah, 0:10:10.681 --> 0:10:14.161 about four bucks for something. Yeah, so in my model, 0:10:14.201 --> 0:10:18.561 it's about four bucks to provide six. Now, what's in 0:10:18.641 --> 0:10:21.281 my food and what's in the three dollar food is 0:10:21.601 --> 0:10:23.401 I don't even know what's in the three dollar food, 0:10:23.481 --> 0:10:26.121 so we can't make that comparison. But my point is 0:10:26.921 --> 0:10:27.321 I could. 0:10:27.721 --> 0:10:29.801 Vegetables are one thing. I'm making a note. We're going 0:10:29.801 --> 0:10:31.081 to talk about how to hide. 0:10:31.201 --> 0:10:33.121 Mine has vegetables in it as well. But the thing 0:10:33.121 --> 0:10:35.921 that mine also has is it removes the stress from 0:10:35.961 --> 0:10:37.921 the parent about what to do for the school lunch 0:10:37.921 --> 0:10:40.681 because it's all part of the family meal. That's what 0:10:40.761 --> 0:10:42.921 I advocate all the time. Don't make the school lunch 0:10:42.961 --> 0:10:46.121 like a separate thought process or the work lunch. Here's 0:10:46.161 --> 0:10:48.561 what we had last night. Here's two portions of that 0:10:48.601 --> 0:10:51.441 from last night, enjoy your day, see you for dinner. 0:10:52.201 --> 0:10:55.281 Oh, because you know what I'm saying, feels like leftovers, 0:10:55.321 --> 0:10:56.961 Like we had this last night, so we're having this 0:10:57.041 --> 0:10:57.361 for lunch. 0:10:57.401 --> 0:10:58.161 Yeah, what's wrong with that? 0:10:58.681 --> 0:11:01.241 I do like to have something completely. 0:11:00.761 --> 0:11:04.601 Yes, but your luxury is in your bubble. Well, most 0:11:04.641 --> 0:11:07.041 people can't do that, most people with like two plus 0:11:07.041 --> 0:11:09.521 two family. We talked about a family four right, Let's 0:11:09.561 --> 0:11:11.321 imagine they make a grand a week, and let's call 0:11:11.401 --> 0:11:13.481 six to fifty rent, do you know where I'm headed here? 0:11:14.081 --> 0:11:15.881 They're not going to sit there and care about those 0:11:15.921 --> 0:11:18.161 things for them. It's like I have one hundred and 0:11:18.201 --> 0:11:22.521 fifty dollars to make four meal. Let's call it three 0:11:22.521 --> 0:11:25.201 because let's call them two little people. Three meals three 0:11:25.241 --> 0:11:28.881 times three humans is nine a day times seven sixty three? 0:11:29.321 --> 0:11:31.361 Is that right for the whole week? That's how many 0:11:31.441 --> 0:11:33.041 meals the parents have to cover off. 0:11:34.361 --> 0:11:36.521 No, I was just thinking in terms of how I mean, 0:11:36.561 --> 0:11:38.801 I think that's probably just what a lot of kids 0:11:38.801 --> 0:11:41.321 do have for their lunches, in terms of a sandwich, 0:11:41.721 --> 0:11:43.961 a fruit snack, a snack beforehand, And then. 0:11:43.921 --> 0:11:45.161 Why does it have to be like that? 0:11:45.401 --> 0:11:47.441 I'm not just saying that's for a lot. Well, because 0:11:47.681 --> 0:11:48.521 people like it like that. 0:11:48.601 --> 0:11:50.601 I guess no, people can't afford it like that. That's 0:11:50.641 --> 0:11:53.041 what's happening right now, don't you think. No, don't you 0:11:53.081 --> 0:11:53.801 know where we are. 0:11:54.041 --> 0:11:56.761 I would say, okay, let's push back on that. I 0:11:56.801 --> 0:12:00.321 would say, okay, life for bread three four dollars, so 0:12:00.561 --> 0:12:03.121 twenty let's say twenty pieces of bread. So that's far, 0:12:03.721 --> 0:12:06.881 that's five. I mean, that's if you're having. 0:12:06.801 --> 0:12:08.401 So you just gave me a ton of sugar and 0:12:08.441 --> 0:12:09.641 some cardboard, go ahead. 0:12:09.481 --> 0:12:12.241 Possibly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And you might have 0:12:12.521 --> 0:12:15.441 cheese and mamade or lettuce or whatever and a sandwich 0:12:15.601 --> 0:12:17.481 or lunch and sausage because we do like lunch and 0:12:17.521 --> 0:12:21.161 sausage that way. And that's not expensive. I don't know. 0:12:20.761 --> 0:12:24.241 I don't think it's that expensive to provide sandwiches for 0:12:24.281 --> 0:12:27.721 your kids. I don't think it's peanut butter and jam. 0:12:27.801 --> 0:12:30.321 No, not at all. But nothing that you've described is 0:12:30.361 --> 0:12:31.961 what I would want to give my kid to take 0:12:31.961 --> 0:12:35.561 to school. Yeah, that's not sustainable. That's just a glucose crash. 0:12:35.601 --> 0:12:38.001 Are you setting me up? Are you setting me up? 0:12:38.561 --> 0:12:39.441 And ran it all off? 0:12:39.561 --> 0:12:41.801 Yeah? I did, And that's me. But I would never 0:12:41.881 --> 0:12:43.881 put well, I was raised, you know, like a hood rat. 0:12:44.001 --> 0:12:45.801 I mean, my kids are not raised like hood rats. 0:12:45.801 --> 0:12:46.721 Nobody is anymore. 0:12:46.761 --> 0:12:48.241 What are they doing? What are they doing lunch? 0:12:48.401 --> 0:12:50.841 Well, we left a house at nine am and didn't 0:12:50.841 --> 0:12:53.801 come back till nine pm. And you know, we were 0:12:53.841 --> 0:12:56.921 like Lord of the flies, whereas now it's a little 0:12:56.921 --> 0:12:59.641 bit more refined. You know, the humans are not doing 0:12:59.641 --> 0:13:02.761 what we used to do, so now we have. But also, 0:13:02.841 --> 0:13:06.441 we didn't know as much about signs and nutrition back 0:13:06.481 --> 0:13:09.201 then as we do now, and we know a lot 0:13:09.281 --> 0:13:11.641 more and so we can make better decisions. And that's 0:13:11.681 --> 0:13:14.561 where I come from, Like, you should make better decisions 0:13:14.601 --> 0:13:17.081 around health because the people that I help with at 0:13:17.121 --> 0:13:20.841 Southseast Healthcare, you know, heart disease and diabetes are one 0:13:20.881 --> 0:13:25.441 of the biggest things that hits New Zealanders and sugar 0:13:25.521 --> 0:13:27.281 is a big part of that. And bread is a 0:13:27.281 --> 0:13:28.921 big delivery mechanism for sugar. 0:13:28.961 --> 0:13:31.001 I think as well, with the if you're talking about 0:13:31.001 --> 0:13:34.281 the evening meals becoming lunches, evening meals are often hot, 0:13:34.281 --> 0:13:36.881 and I'm not sure. I don't know how it plays out. 0:13:36.921 --> 0:13:38.641 Having noodles are beautiful cold. 0:13:38.721 --> 0:13:40.121 Oh, my kids do like the noodles. 0:13:40.161 --> 0:13:43.281 Yeah, yes, it's all about what you decide. There's a 0:13:43.361 --> 0:13:46.721 thousand recipes that will work. But do you decide that 0:13:46.721 --> 0:13:48.641 that's what you want to do with your family and 0:13:48.641 --> 0:13:51.041 that's how you want to plant it? Is that your budget? 0:13:51.081 --> 0:13:54.201 It's very practical steps, like none of this is fluffy. 0:13:54.561 --> 0:13:56.521 This is how much money I've got, This is how 0:13:56.561 --> 0:14:00.361 many meals I have to provide. I'm tired. What should 0:14:00.401 --> 0:14:02.961 I do? How do I plug more holes with take 0:14:03.001 --> 0:14:07.601 away meals but make them reduced? For example, getting kids 0:14:07.601 --> 0:14:10.801 to help out in the kitchen I find is really 0:14:10.881 --> 0:14:15.801 amazing in convincing them to take the leftovers the next day. Yeah, 0:14:15.881 --> 0:14:18.481 like they don't mind the leftovers if they had something 0:14:18.521 --> 0:14:21.561 to do with it from the night before. This is 0:14:21.561 --> 0:14:25.041 what we've found. So this is what we're always like cajoling, 0:14:25.921 --> 0:14:29.481 cajoling the parents to say, look, train your children a 0:14:29.481 --> 0:14:32.361 little bit like this and you will see the benefit. 0:14:32.761 --> 0:14:34.601 Okay, we want to take your calls on it. How 0:14:34.641 --> 0:14:37.481 much do you think it should be. How do your 0:14:37.561 --> 0:14:40.241 lunches look and how much does your lunch cost? And 0:14:40.281 --> 0:14:42.801 if you're looking for ideas from Ganesh on how you 0:14:42.841 --> 0:14:45.001 can make it a little bit cheaper because you might 0:14:45.041 --> 0:14:47.201 actually say, look, this is what I like, but it's 0:14:47.241 --> 0:14:49.281 costing that much. Maybe Guinness will say, well, have you 0:14:49.321 --> 0:14:52.241 thought about making this little change here? I mean the 0:14:52.281 --> 0:14:55.681 obvious one would be, of course buying seasonal. 0:14:56.801 --> 0:14:59.361 Cheaper yeap, and actually, but I'm not even sure if 0:14:59.361 --> 0:15:02.281 you find seasonal as genius. But here's my little tip 0:15:02.281 --> 0:15:04.761 on that. School yourself up on what to do with 0:15:04.801 --> 0:15:06.921 these beautiful seasonal ingredients. 0:15:07.441 --> 0:15:09.281 Right, we'll take your calls, but if you've got any 0:15:09.321 --> 0:15:11.961 questions for Ganessian, we're going to continue talking about how 0:15:12.001 --> 0:15:15.641 you eat healthily on a budget. And yeah, I wait, 0:15:15.641 --> 0:15:18.281 one hundred eighty ten eighties the number text nine nine 0:15:18.361 --> 0:15:21.681 two and don't worry about the email. Let's cause some texts. Okay, 0:15:21.721 --> 0:15:22.441 let's get into it. 0:15:22.881 --> 0:15:28.921 God, c he's tonight and I don't feel something right, 0:15:30.041 --> 0:15:32.761 I'm so scared, and kids are full of my chair 0:15:33.961 --> 0:15:39.001 and one get down the stairs, clowns. 0:15:39.081 --> 0:15:41.841 That's welcome back. This is the weekend Collective Health Hub. 0:15:41.881 --> 0:15:45.401 And my guest is ganis Rage. Yes, that ganess Rage. 0:15:46.121 --> 0:15:48.041 I don't need to say anymore from eat wealth for 0:15:48.041 --> 0:15:48.321 a lese. 0:15:48.441 --> 0:15:49.161 Is there another one? 0:15:49.201 --> 0:15:51.121 It sounds naughty? Or if I don't say anything more 0:15:51.121 --> 0:15:56.761 of it? Go yes, that. 0:15:54.401 --> 0:15:55.641 That was my cue. I missed it. 0:15:56.081 --> 0:15:58.001 Anyway, we're talking about how to eat well for less, 0:15:58.041 --> 0:16:01.841 but in particular lunches. How much would you What do 0:16:01.881 --> 0:16:04.521 you do about it? Having having lunch? I tell you what. 0:16:04.801 --> 0:16:07.241 The The first thing, and I don't even need be 0:16:07.241 --> 0:16:09.801 an expert on this, is that if you are making 0:16:09.841 --> 0:16:11.881 your own lunch, then you are starting to get ahead 0:16:11.881 --> 0:16:13.281 of the game because a lot of people are still going, Oh, 0:16:13.281 --> 0:16:15.281 I can't be bothered. I'll go buy a sandwich. Yeah, 0:16:15.481 --> 0:16:17.201 buy sandwich, Go buy some sushi. By this. 0:16:17.281 --> 0:16:19.081 By that that's most people. 0:16:19.561 --> 0:16:20.321 That is most people. 0:16:20.601 --> 0:16:22.721 Yeah, it's a decision you have to make to decide 0:16:22.761 --> 0:16:23.721 to take lunch with you. 0:16:24.001 --> 0:16:27.121 Right, let's take some calls. Julian Hello, Yeah they met. 0:16:27.561 --> 0:16:29.321 Let's see you good good ey. 0:16:30.001 --> 0:16:30.401 Hey. Look. 0:16:31.201 --> 0:16:37.361 My opinion is I think a certain generation. I'm in 0:16:37.401 --> 0:16:40.361 my seventies and my mother and my auntie and friends 0:16:40.401 --> 0:16:43.561 taught me how to cook when I was fifteen sixteen. 0:16:44.921 --> 0:16:47.961 The generation now don't know how to cook, so they 0:16:48.001 --> 0:16:51.201 don't know how to make a decent meal on a 0:16:51.241 --> 0:16:54.001 budget because they have they haven't got the skills. 0:16:56.121 --> 0:16:57.801 I don't think anyone's going to disagree with that. 0:16:58.041 --> 0:17:01.841 You You're spot on. I mean, the only thing we 0:17:01.881 --> 0:17:05.881 can do about that is to create education, right, that's 0:17:05.881 --> 0:17:06.441 what you're saying. 0:17:07.241 --> 0:17:09.201 Yeah, And look, you know I did. Look a few 0:17:09.281 --> 0:17:11.681 years ago, I had the same sort of issue as 0:17:11.681 --> 0:17:14.241 I've got now with this, and I did phone up 0:17:14.281 --> 0:17:17.841 Wins and I said, look, I'm retired, I need something 0:17:17.881 --> 0:17:21.961 to do. Are there is there any Is there any 0:17:22.041 --> 0:17:25.321 money out there for me to go into people's homes 0:17:25.921 --> 0:17:28.401 and just teaching the basics. I'm not a chef, but 0:17:28.481 --> 0:17:32.681 I'm a very good cook. And they weren't interested. They 0:17:32.721 --> 0:17:34.401 said it would just be too hard. And I guess, 0:17:34.401 --> 0:17:36.161 with privacy and all that to. 0:17:36.041 --> 0:17:38.601 Add hoc, wouldn't it just be you know, what they 0:17:38.641 --> 0:17:41.321 need to roll out nationwide programs I imagine as opposed 0:17:41.361 --> 0:17:43.801 to Julian popping into a few houses and say, let 0:17:43.881 --> 0:17:46.721 me show you a few ideas. Although oh yeah, it 0:17:46.801 --> 0:17:50.281 might be useful for that on that small, macro micro scale. 0:17:50.761 --> 0:17:53.481 Yeah. Look, I wasn't thinking about taking it multinational or anything. 0:17:53.481 --> 0:17:57.281 I I was just talking about I was just talking 0:17:57.361 --> 0:17:59.521 about taking it to you know, to the likes of Christ, 0:17:59.561 --> 0:18:01.881 you know, And look, all you would need is maybe 0:18:01.921 --> 0:18:04.841 twenty people teach them that they can then go on 0:18:05.201 --> 0:18:09.641 and teach their friends and people. You know, you, you 0:18:09.681 --> 0:18:12.841 know you can cook not through budget, but you can 0:18:12.921 --> 0:18:16.201 cook very tasty meals, as you would know Ganis without 0:18:16.721 --> 0:18:17.721 spending a fortune. 0:18:18.041 --> 0:18:19.921 I couldn't agree with you more. And I mean, look, 0:18:19.961 --> 0:18:22.121 your intention from the start to go and help those 0:18:22.161 --> 0:18:24.921 people out was just to give them some education. And 0:18:25.001 --> 0:18:27.081 I think that's you know, that's to be commended. 0:18:27.641 --> 0:18:29.601 Actually, you know, there is a way of you doing that. 0:18:29.641 --> 0:18:31.441 Funny thing is in a way what what what you're 0:18:31.441 --> 0:18:33.481 talking about as a as a as a micro version 0:18:33.521 --> 0:18:36.081 a sort of person the person view way of doing 0:18:36.241 --> 0:18:38.361 what Ganesh is doing on a large scale and with 0:18:38.401 --> 0:18:39.841 the eat wealth less sort of thing, isn't it. 0:18:40.601 --> 0:18:40.801 Yeah? 0:18:40.881 --> 0:18:41.241