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Speaker 1: In the Brady UK correspondence with us.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey Inda, Hey Heather, good to speak to you

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Speaker 2: again Ininda.

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Speaker 1: It's good to check you. I see that Kop has

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Speaker 1: been cleared of murder.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this was a very significant prosecution, but it ended

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Speaker 2: with Sergeant Martin Blake being acquitted, cleared of murder after

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Speaker 2: just three hours and twenty minutes of jury deliberations, unanimously cleared.

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Speaker 2: Now his charge of murder goes back to September two

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Speaker 2: years ago. He was on duty Sergeant Martin Blake and

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Speaker 2: other officers and they tried to stop a high powered

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Speaker 2: Audi vehicle in Stretham in South London, which had been

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Speaker 2: linked to a non fatal shooting the night before. So

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Speaker 2: the police obviously felt whoever was in this vehicle may

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Speaker 2: well have had information relating to a shooting the night before,

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Speaker 2: so they were very wary of the vehicle. They perform

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Speaker 2: what they call a hard stop, you've seen it on TV.

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Speaker 2: They had the vehicle boxed in, but the guy behind

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Speaker 2: the wheel, who turned out to be a man called

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Speaker 2: Chris Caba, aged twenty four, he tried to ram his

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Speaker 2: way out of the hard stop. Now, there was numerous

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Speaker 2: officers on the ground and at this point Sergeant Martin

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Speaker 2: Blake approached the vehicle and fired one single round in

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Speaker 2: through the windscreen at the driver and had struck Chris

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Speaker 2: Cabba in the forehead and he died shortly afterwards in hospital,

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Speaker 2: and there followed a murder charge against the officer. Now

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Speaker 2: serving police officers were so angry at this murder charge

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Speaker 2: being brought given what they felt was the level of

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Speaker 2: danger faced by their colleagues, they started handing back in

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Speaker 2: their firearms and refusing to carry firearms. So we've had

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Speaker 2: the court case, the jury came back and Sergeant Martin

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Speaker 2: Blake has been found not guilty.

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Speaker 1: And now the boss of the MIT basically says, if

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Speaker 1: we carry on this way prosecuting cops trying to do

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Speaker 1: their jobs, it will crush the spirits and they won't

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Speaker 1: be able to do their jobs. Has he got a point?

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Speaker 2: I think he has. Look I speak as the son

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Speaker 2: of a police officer and my father carried a firearm

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Speaker 2: as well in Ireland in the eighties and nineties. I

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Speaker 2: think they're extremely well trained people, psychologically, very very balanced,

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Speaker 2: calm people. They are not rash individuals, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's a very very difficult job being a firearms cup

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Speaker 2: because you're taking a decision in a nano second, because

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Speaker 2: they didn't know if this guy was going to drive

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Speaker 2: over other officers. That was what the fear was amongst

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Speaker 2: the cups. But I just think back to my father's career,

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Speaker 2: thirty years in the police in Ireland where there was

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Speaker 2: an active terrorist organization, and my father said something to

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Speaker 2: me recently, he's long retired. He said, I never fired

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Speaker 2: a single round while on duty. Thank god. That was

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Speaker 2: his take. All that training, think of all the exercises,

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Speaker 2: all the training, all the target practice. Not one round

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Speaker 2: dispensed while on duty, and he's The last words he

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Speaker 2: said were thank god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. Hey see, you've got a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of bed. He's gonna get laid out of jail today.

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Speaker 1: How the public feeling about this?

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Speaker 2: Not great? I would say that's another eleven hundred prisoners

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Speaker 2: coming out early today. The only people who can't qualify

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Speaker 2: for this early release scheme now are murderers, sex offenders

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Speaker 2: and terrorists. Everyone else. It's basically over to you to

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Speaker 2: get out of prison today. Eleven hundred. Now, the problem

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Speaker 2: we have is this is just buying more time. We've

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Speaker 2: done this six weeks ago. The prison population is going

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Speaker 2: up by one hundred and fifty inmates per week, so

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Speaker 2: ker Stammer and his government have effectively bought themselves another

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Speaker 2: seven weeks. What we need to do is have a

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Speaker 2: very serious discussion here about sentencing and either we put

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Speaker 2: shorter sentences on crime or we build more prisons. And

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Speaker 2: this is successive governments have had this issue. But the

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Speaker 2: Starmer will say that he's inherited an absolute mess of

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Speaker 2: a prison system and until he can get the budget

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Speaker 2: over the line in ten days time and get some

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Speaker 2: money into it, this is what needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: What about more diva ind.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So this is a shocker. Moldova have had two

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Speaker 2: elections on the same day, an EU joining referendum which

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Speaker 2: they narrowly scraped over the line in favor of yes

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Speaker 2: by about half a percent, and then there was a

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Speaker 2: presidential election which now goes to a runoff. But the

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Speaker 2: big story doing the rounds in Europe is that Russia

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Speaker 2: spent twenty two million dollars trying to buy votes and

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Speaker 2: this was not even hidden. This was basically money dropping

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Speaker 2: in people's bank accounts to go and vote for pro

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Speaker 2: Russian candidates and vote against joining the European Union. So

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Speaker 2: it just goes to show you that this level of

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Speaker 2: bribery and corruption and trying to utterly corrupt the democratic

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Speaker 2: process alive and well in Eastern Europe.

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Speaker 1: Jesus is, isn't it? Hey? Inda, Thanks has always appreciated

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Speaker 1: into Brady UK correspondenting.

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