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Speaker 1: Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and the

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, Former Finance

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Speaker 3: Minister Ruth Richardson on the pression Nikola Willis is under corrections,

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Speaker 3: on the number of electronic bail violations skyrocketing in just

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Speaker 3: the last decade, and the Parking Association on the eight

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Speaker 3: second parking ticket.

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Speaker 2: Good Heather duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Listen, how is it that we are having a conversation

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Speaker 3: today about whether Nikola Willis needs to quit her portfolio

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Speaker 3: because of yesterday's shop GDP number. This is crazy. What

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Speaker 3: happened yesterday is not Nichola Willis's fault. It is the

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Speaker 3: Reserve Bank's fault. It is not a matter of opinion.

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Speaker 3: It is a fact. The Reserve Bank ratcheted up the

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Speaker 3: official cash rate to slow down the economy and engineer

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Speaker 3: a recession. To quote Adrian Or, it's what he wants

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Speaker 3: to do, it is what he has actually done successfully.

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Speaker 3: We now have had an enormous recession and we are

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Speaker 3: struggling to come out of that. That is not Nikola

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Speaker 3: Willis's fault. Now, sure I can lay some blame at

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Speaker 3: Nichola Willis's feet. I can blame nichol Willis for not

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Speaker 3: doing enough to fix the state of the government's books,

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Speaker 3: probably not doing enough to get run down places like

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Speaker 3: Auckland Central going again. But that GDP number, that is

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Speaker 3: fair and square, largely the Reserve Bank's problem. So she

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Speaker 3: should not quit over what happened yesterday. However, I am

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Speaker 3: prepared to admit that the fact that this discussion is

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Speaker 3: even happening does speak to the enormous political pressure that

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Speaker 3: she is under at the moment. Because it is enormous.

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Speaker 3: She is under a lot of political pressure. She is

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Speaker 3: very much playing at a political disadvantage because a lot

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Speaker 3: has gone wrong for her this year. Buttergate was all

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Speaker 3: Nikola Willis pulling in Miles Hurrell for a chat Gavin

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Speaker 3: the cameras run after him. Was she created that she

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Speaker 3: has only just managed to save herself from being talked,

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Speaker 3: from being accused of being all talk and no action

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Speaker 3: over the supermarkets, redeemed with a Hail Mary at the

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Speaker 3: last minute. And for all the criticism that she lobbed

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Speaker 3: at Grant Robertson for spending too much. She spends more

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Speaker 3: than him every single budget. And here, here we are,

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Speaker 3: two years into this administration, still waiting for their big

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Speaker 3: plan as to how we turn this economy around. That is,

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Speaker 3: as Finance Minister and Economic Growth Minister, her job. But

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Speaker 3: she doesn't need to quit over what happened yesterday. Look,

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Speaker 3: the bar for any minister to quit is very high,

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Speaker 3: but for a finance minister even more so. Just to

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Speaker 3: have a look at how badly Rachel Reeves in the

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Speaker 3: is still in her job. Nichola Willis is nowhere near that,

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Speaker 3: mainly because the GDP figure out yesterday is not her

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Speaker 2: Heather d for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Nine two is the text number standard text fee supply.

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Speaker 3: As I say Ruth Richardson after five now, details about

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Speaker 3: the Tom Phillips case will remain suppressed for at least

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Speaker 3: another month. Media police ordering a TAMITIKEI have been prevented

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Speaker 3: from plishing certain details related to the case. Since Tom

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Speaker 3: Phillips and his kids were found last Monday. Now the

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Speaker 3: High Court in Wellington will hear the matter again in

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Speaker 3: mid October. Meanwhile, the details are spreading across social media

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Speaker 3: with no known repercussion so far. Now Nicki Chamberlain is

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Speaker 3: a senior lecture at Auckland University's Law School and with

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Speaker 3: us Hey Nikki Hi Heather. When the court considers the injunction,

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Speaker 3: like they did yesterday and like they will do in

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Speaker 3: the information is spreading on social media?

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Speaker 4: Yes, they will do so. There is normally for an

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Speaker 4: injunction based on private information, three things the court looks at.

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Speaker 4: Is there a serious question to be tried? The information

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Speaker 4: is private? Where does the balance of convenience lie? What

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Speaker 4: is in the interest of justice? Now that third criteria

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Speaker 4: interest of justice, The court will look at how widely

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Speaker 4: And if it is seen to be fairly common knowledge

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Speaker 4: unfairly prejudicial to keep the injunction in place. So that

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Speaker 4: is something that the courts will look at. And in fact,

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Speaker 4: there is precedent of a case. Interestingly, back in the

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Speaker 4: information was published by media outlets in New Zealand and

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Speaker 4: So I think what we'll see here is a consideration

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Speaker 3: So would you in your opinion, then what would you say?

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Speaker 3: If this continues to spread at the rate that it is,

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Speaker 3: the court will eventually be forced to lift it.

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Speaker 4: I think that they will. I think the problem is

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Speaker 4: going to be, well, there's a twofold problem, Heather. First,

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Speaker 4: you've got overseas news media, right, So the injunction applies

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Speaker 4: to those parties who are subject to it, which includes

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Speaker 4: order recognized in that foreign jurisdiction to have any effect

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Speaker 4: and be enforced. That's issue one. Issue two is that

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Speaker 4: the injunction applies, as you said, to media organizations, the police,

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Speaker 4: and Araga tamariki. The problem is is that there might

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Speaker 4: unless you can get those individuals subject to the injunction itself,

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Speaker 4: issue around that is you'll have your social media companies,

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Speaker 4: we need reasonable notice because we can't possibly surveil millions

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Speaker 4: give us reasonable notice that there's information up on you know,

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Speaker 4: the facebooks of the world and Twitter, et cetera, then

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Speaker 4: we can pull down the information. So there's a number

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Speaker 4: of problems within the scope of the injunction and making

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Speaker 4: a saying in the United States, Heather, you've probably heard

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Speaker 4: of this. The horse has already bolted. It's too late

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Speaker 4: I kind of feel like in this situation it may

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Speaker 4: layman's terms, because you know, injunctions are great, but you've

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and I can imagine also just the logistics

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: The law says actually at the moment, So for example,

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Speaker 4: of doing business. Right, So the fact that Facebook wants

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: I imagine it could be quite cumbersome. But again, you know

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Speaker 3: Brilliant. Hey, Niki's been fascinating to talk to you. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much. Niki Chamberlain, Senior Lecturer of Auckland UNI

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Speaker 3: Law Faculty. So she thinks the injunction will be lifted

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Speaker 3: at some stage either if the threshold for resigning as

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Speaker 3: Finance Minister meant that Grant Robertson didn't have to resign

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Speaker 3: for what he did to the economy. I think Nichola

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Speaker 3: Here the why don't you stop talking about it?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 3: If it isn't a big deal. This is Nichola Willis Well.

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Speaker 3: Actually I can explain why we are talking about it today,

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Speaker 3: and this makes the whole thing a lot weirder. So

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Speaker 3: stand by and we'll get to that. It's eighteen past four.

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Speaker 3: pioneer Heather Right. Are the Black Fern's going to beat Canada?

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Speaker 7: Yes? I think they will. They are a much better

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Speaker 7: side Canada than they have been historically. Last couple of

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Speaker 7: times we've played them twenty seven all draw in May

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Speaker 7: had a very good tournament Canada. They've been relatively untroubled

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Speaker 7: and beat Australia handsomely in their quarter final. But I

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Speaker 7: is a good team. It's an experienced team. Yes, there's

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Speaker 7: but there are still some very experienced players in that team,

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Speaker 7: Ponsmby and others who have been to multiple World Cups,

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Speaker 7: plus some young talent as well. I've got us winning

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Speaker 7: it for whatever that's worth in terms of a jinx

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Speaker 7: or an anti jinx, Heather, But I fully expect that

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Speaker 7: we'll be playing England in the final at Twickenham next Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're going to win it because we've got

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Speaker 3: the muscle memory of having played finals before, haven't we?

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Speaker 7: And they, well, yeah, yeah, I guess that's another way

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Speaker 7: of explaining experience, isn't it when the you know, when

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Speaker 7: the when the pressure really comes on in those moments,

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Speaker 7: if you've experienced those moments before, and some of the

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Speaker 7: players I've mentioned have certainly had those, You're right. It's

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Speaker 7: another reason why I think you'd give slight favoritism to

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Speaker 7: News on the tab got one forty five sorry, one

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Speaker 7: sixty five to two twenty in our favor Compare that

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Speaker 7: eleven dollars. So England overwhelming favorites to not only win

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Speaker 3: Yeah okay, now are the breakers you're looking forward to this?

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Speaker 7: This is kind of snuck up a little bit. The

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Speaker 7: new Australian National Basketball League season. I am because the

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Speaker 7: Breakers have gone through a bit of a renaissance, bit

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Speaker 7: with Matt Walsh who came in as a bit of

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Speaker 7: a rockstar American owner and never really worked on the court.

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Speaker 7: The Blackwells are back, Dylan Boucher is back, Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 7: Sea's not forgotten this heither. But the Break has lost

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Speaker 7: sixteen of their last nineteen games last season, so I mean,

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Speaker 7: those are numbers that are never going to get you

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Speaker 3: The yes, I know of her. She's been on telling

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Speaker 3: So how it played out is yesterday Thomas at The

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Speaker 3: And Finally, the Czech Republic will have a long standing

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Speaker 3: mystery solved. Today, a letter that has been sealed since

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Speaker 14: They're always good to tell you. You and the listeners.

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Speaker 15: also issues around trade, So again a level of appeasement

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Speaker 15: thrown the state visit thrown, all the pomp and pageantry,

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Speaker 15: the giant state banquets, the massive dinner that was held,

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Speaker 15: and crucial talks. So Donald Trump comes back to the

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Speaker 15: United States with a victory under his collar.

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Speaker 11: Certainly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. Jonathan, thanks very much, appreciate your time. That's

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Keresley, our US correspondent, nineteen away from five.

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Speaker 2: Here the duplessy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what happened with Felix? So this is how

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Speaker 3: it played out. There was no formal meeting. There was

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Speaker 3: no formal meeting between the Finance Minister, Economic Growth Minister

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Speaker 3: Nichola Willis and the Prime Minister Chris Lux. No formal

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Speaker 3: meeting where they got together to talk about whether he

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Speaker 3: had confidence in her. What happened is that they all

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Speaker 3: went to the big donor thing, which I think was

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Speaker 3: was it an Auckland last night? It's about fifteen hundred

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Speaker 3: dollars ahead or some other mental sum to hang out

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Speaker 3: with politicians. Anyway, they went to that. I am told

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Speaker 3: by people who were there. It was a lovely evening.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was feeling upbeat and the Nats were in good

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Speaker 3: spirits and stuff. And at that meet, at that event,

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Speaker 3: Nicola and Chris, because they work with each other, had

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Speaker 3: a little chat and Chris said, hey, listen, I got

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Speaker 3: you back. Relax. It was basically that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: It was completely informal. Anyway, Barry Sober is of the

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Speaker 3: view that this is not even interesting and no one

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Speaker 3: should even be talking about it, and what the hell

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Speaker 3: is wrong with us? And so he's going to be

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Speaker 3: with us to express his you know, has always always

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Speaker 3: delivered so graciously the views that he gives us. He'll

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Speaker 3: you know, he lets you, he sort of lets you

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Speaker 3: really over time realize what he is trying to say.

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Speaker 3: He's let sort of leads you to it. Do you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? He's going to do that thing

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Speaker 3: with us next when he's with us shortly quickly. Oh,

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Speaker 3: by the way, can I just say, have you seen

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Speaker 3: the headline that's just popped up about Chris Hopkins, labor

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Speaker 3: leader Chris Hopkins says the whole government should resign over

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Speaker 3: GDP decline so as irrational as always. Just want to

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Speaker 3: update you on my absolute favorite conspiracy theory, which is

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Speaker 3: the one about how Brigitte Macron is in fact not

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Speaker 3: a woman but a man. Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte are

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Speaker 3: planning to apparently present scientific evidence to court in order

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Speaker 3: to prove that she is in fact what she says

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Speaker 3: she is, which is a woman. Because of course you'll

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Speaker 3: be aware that they're suing Candas Owens for defamation cause

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Speaker 3: Scandis has been going around saying that Brigitte is a man.

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Speaker 3: Now they haven't said yet what evidence, what the scientific

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Speaker 3: evidence is that they're going to present, but the clue

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Speaker 3: is probably in the sentence where they said it will

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Speaker 3: be both generically and specifically. Actually, no, that's no clue

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Speaker 3: at all. Generically and specifically, they will prove that she

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Speaker 3: is a woman. There will be photographs of her pregnant

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Speaker 3: and photographs of her raising her children, which I feelo

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Speaker 3: is probably not going to convince anyone. So I'm guessing

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Speaker 3: if I had to guess, I would say there'll be

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Speaker 3: a DNA tech, one of those chromosomal tests or something

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Speaker 3: like that. Anyway, we stand by to find out what

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Speaker 3: it's going to be. Bary sop As next seventeen away

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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 1: With Centrics credit check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't heard the one about the parking ticket

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Speaker 3: issued for just a few seconds. You're going to want

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Speaker 3: to hear this one shortly fourteen away from five and

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper, senior political correspondence with us.

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Speaker 8: Hello, Barry, so here you want to hear me tell

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Speaker 8: it how it is here? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Go on then tell us you well, the whole thing

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Speaker 3: is just a nonsense.

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Speaker 17: Well I do.

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Speaker 8: I think, of course Nichola Willis would speak to Luxon

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Speaker 8: about GDP. I mean, why wouldn't she. The government would

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Speaker 8: no doubt be having a con flab amongst themselves about it,

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Speaker 8: and how dreadful the Second Court it was. But I

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Speaker 8: got to say that Chris Luxen and Auckland here today

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Speaker 8: later on with a trial, when he was asked for

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Speaker 8: his reaction to Roger Douglas calling for her resignation.

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Speaker 6: Absolute rubbish.

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Speaker 12: Nichola Willis is the best person to be Finance Minister

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Speaker 12: and Economic Growth Minister in this whole country. She is

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Speaker 12: absolutely outstanding. I see how hard she works. I know

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Speaker 12: what she's wrestling with. She has inherited the biggest recession

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Speaker 12: in thirty five years. We've inherited the longest you know,

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Speaker 12: hangover of COVID from any Western country. We've inherit a

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Speaker 12: situation where the last lot ran up the debt three

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Speaker 12: times and we write out of ten billion dollar interest

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Speaker 12: bill each and every year and have nothing to show

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Speaker 12: for it. So she is cleaning it up, and she's

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Speaker 12: doing an exceptionally good job. And I don't think there's

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Speaker 12: a single News Islander that could do a better job

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Speaker 12: than Nichola.

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Speaker 8: Willis Well, make no mistake about it here. But you

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Speaker 8: know it's interesting, isn't it that Tim You know clearly

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Speaker 8: where she goes, the prime minister will go as well.

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Speaker 8: Sounds a bit like David Loggie and Roger Douglass because

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Speaker 8: the resignations of finance ministers are very very rare. Indeed,

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Speaker 8: you know Roger Dabar, yes exactly. Roger Douglas stood aside

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Speaker 8: because he end up falling out with David Long you

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Speaker 8: stopped for his cup of tea and didn't like the

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Speaker 8: way things were going, and I remember it well. But

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Speaker 8: the other one is that Ruth Richardson, who understand you're

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Speaker 8: going to be talking too shortly. She was essentially sacked

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Speaker 8: from the job. She won't admit that, but it was

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Speaker 8: after the nineteen ninety three election that she was the

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Speaker 8: Finance minister. After the election, she wasn't the finance ministers so?

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Speaker 8: And you'd have to go back then to the nineteen

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Speaker 8: thirties to find another finance minister who stood aside from

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Speaker 8: the portfolio because he did so on a matter of principle.

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Speaker 8: Downey Steward I think.

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Speaker 18: Was his name.

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Speaker 3: We're nowhere near second territory or resignation territory. It was

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Speaker 3: just what the hell?

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Speaker 8: It's absurd to even entertain the notion. And the thing is,

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Speaker 8: as I said yesterday, the one person who's done a

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Speaker 8: great job in all of this is Adrian or he

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Speaker 8: engineered a recession. By god, did he get one?

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Speaker 3: None of us were wondering did Adrian get his recession?

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Speaker 3: We all felt that and we still laugh. Now, what's

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Speaker 3: going wrong with Stu Nash again?

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Speaker 8: Oh poor Stu? I mean talk about you know, he

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Speaker 8: put his foot in it telling us what he thought

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Speaker 8: a woman was. And it would seem that I think

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Speaker 8: that's bounded far too heavily on him. It was very crude.

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Speaker 8: He admitted to it, and he said that he was

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Speaker 8: He groveled and said he was terribly sorry about making it.

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Speaker 8: He let himself down. The comment that is, and you know,

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Speaker 8: obviously he's learnt something from it. Well, it seems as

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Speaker 8: a mission off now to the US that Stue Nash

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Speaker 8: was meant to be on. It was a government lea

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Speaker 8: admission by Erica Stanford about visas, and he had a

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Speaker 8: lot to do with visas when he was in the

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Speaker 8: labor government. But he's been dropped from that delegation because

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Speaker 8: they think it would be too much of a diversion

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Speaker 8: of interest in what he had said about what a

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Speaker 8: woman was. I mean, honestly, I think that's taking wokeism

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Speaker 8: to the extreme. I mean, really, he made an apology,

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Speaker 8: made a stupid remark, but he should most certainly have

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Speaker 8: been on that mission.

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Speaker 3: But Barry, it was the most crash thing that a

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Speaker 3: position has ever said.

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Speaker 8: I'll be throwing out of the house if I said,

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Speaker 8: I just.

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Speaker 3: All I'm trying. I'm just am wondering if you're tolerance

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Speaker 3: of the comment, and maybe even mine is on account

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Speaker 3: of the fact that we really like stew Nash.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I do like stew Nash, but no, it's a

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Speaker 8: comment pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: It's a terrible.

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Speaker 8: Comment, and I don't think we could even remind your

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Speaker 8: listeners of what the comment was so bad.

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Speaker 3: I think you get one go at, explaining as no more,

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Speaker 3: that's right, it's too hard out hey. Okay, So Winston

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Speaker 3: Peters is off to the UN this weekend, is ease.

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Speaker 8: We've only only got seven sleeps to go here that

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Speaker 8: before we find out whether we're going to recognize Palestine

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Speaker 8: as a state. But the interesting thing to me is

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Speaker 8: we're going to hear on Saturday morning our time. That means,

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Speaker 8: and I've been to these UN General assemblies with leaders

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Speaker 8: on many occasions, the New Zealand delegation get or the minister,

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Speaker 8: and usually the Prime Minister gets to speak to an

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Speaker 8: empty auditorium because by that time on a Friday night,

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Speaker 8: most people have gone home. So the anyone's really interested

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Speaker 8: in Winston Peter's speech will be New Zealanders to see

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Speaker 8: if we do in fact recognize Palestine. And I can't

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Speaker 8: see how we couldn't, although don't forget Old Trumpy when

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Speaker 8: he was in Britain, told Keir Starmer off for doing

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Speaker 8: the same thing recognizing Palestine. So maybe we are playing

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Speaker 8: the Americans game at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very so, thank you, very much, very so for

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Speaker 3: senior political correspondent. We'll be back with us quarter PUS

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Speaker 3: six throughout the political week.

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Speaker 16: That was right.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about the ticket next eight away from five.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 19: It's hard to hide from a number that bad, isn't

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Speaker 19: it gdpter zero point nine is not zero point three,

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Speaker 19: And of course we're already out for the Finance Minister's quit.

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Speaker 19: Sir John Key back with us.

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Speaker 1: I think what you've seen over the last eighteen months

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Speaker 1: there's a government that has been working hard to get

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Speaker 1: the economy straightened up after I miss it and hears it,

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Speaker 1: but it hasn't had a mate in the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 19: Nicola Wilison's of course, the Finance minister.

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Speaker 17: Could we be heading for a recession?

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Speaker 2: In the first three months of this year?

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Speaker 3: We grew at zero point ninety, seen twice as fast

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Speaker 3: as economist for forecasting, So.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't overreact to a bad quarter.

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Speaker 17: We've got to keep playing the full game.

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Speaker 19: Back Monday from six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 19: Maybe's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then maybe they can bring Stuart Nash to confirm

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Speaker 3: Brigitte Macron's gender is very good. Five act yes, quite good.

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Speaker 3: Five away from five. Okay, so do you remember us

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Speaker 3: telling you that story not long ago. They have been

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Speaker 3: last week, maybe even earlier this week about the company

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Speaker 3: in christ chur It's the parking company called Parking Services

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Speaker 3: Limited that pings somebody for pulling into a car park

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Speaker 3: for twenty seven seconds. Remember that, Well they've struck again.

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Speaker 3: Turns out they now pinged a guy for pulling into

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Speaker 3: the car park for just eight seconds. So what happened

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Speaker 3: is this Chap Bailey Smith, who's only a kid, is

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Speaker 3: twenty two years old. He pulls into the car park

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Speaker 3: outside the Ricketton laundromat in March, pulls out again and

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Speaker 3: then leaves all right, eight seconds, goes on holiday, comes back.

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Speaker 3: There are all of these notices, ninety five dollars fine notices.

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Speaker 3: All this kerfuffle has happened. He decides to take it

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Speaker 3: to court, basically to try and argue this is a

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Speaker 3: dispute tribunal this lot. Parking Services Limited come back at

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Speaker 3: him and say, actually he was in the car park

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Speaker 3: for five minutes more than dropping off a friend to

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Speaker 3: pick up another car parked nearby. The photos. They then

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Speaker 3: submit photos to back up their claim. The ruling says

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Speaker 3: the photos appear to support mister Smith's position, which is

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Speaker 3: that he was there for eight seconds, that he reversed

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Speaker 3: out of the car park very soon after entering it,

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Speaker 3: presumably once he realized it was a private car park

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Speaker 3: with clear warning signs. Anyway, this lot are completely incorrigible.

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Speaker 3: Is unbelievable what they're up to. I think that they

655
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Speaker 3: might be. I mean, I think we all hate car

656
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Speaker 3: parking services, don't we, But it feels to me like

657
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Speaker 3: there are pains in the butts and then there are

658
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Speaker 3: these guys who are well out of line. Are We're

659
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Speaker 3: going to talk to New Zealand Parkings Association about this

660
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Speaker 3: at about quarter past five because I wonder what their

661
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Speaker 3: strategy is here. I mean, are they assuming that there

662
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Speaker 3: are people out there who are going to look at

663
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Speaker 3: it and go, oh, I'm just going to pay it,

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Speaker 3: and they just pay it even though it is so

665
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Speaker 3: deeply unfair. Anyway, we'll find out what the deal is.

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Speaker 3: Ruth Richardson is going to be with us straight after

667
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Speaker 3: five o'clock explained to us the kind of pressure that

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Speaker 3: Nichola Willis is under and what happens now news talks.

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Speaker 6: He'd be.

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Speaker 2: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duper Clan drive with One New Zealand to

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else news talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. There is significant pressure on Nichola Willis following yesterday's

675
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Speaker 3: GDP bombshell. Former Finance Minister Sir Roger Douglas has called

676
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Speaker 3: for her resignation after the economy contracted zero point nine

677
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Speaker 3: percent in the second quarter of the year, and now

678
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Speaker 3: another finance minister, Ruth Richardson. Former Finance Minister Ruth Richardson

679
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Speaker 3: says that the government needs a drastic change in direction

680
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Speaker 3: and Ruth is with us high Ruth hi agridedening before

681
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Speaker 3: we get to what you want in terms of the

682
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Speaker 3: direction of the government, do you think Nicola Willis should resign?

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Speaker 5: No, Look, I don't think playing the resignation game is

684
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Speaker 5: going to get us anywhere. What we need to concentrate

685
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Speaker 5: on is the quality of the policy, setting what's working

686
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Speaker 5: and what's not, and advocating the kinds of policies that

687
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Speaker 5: can snap us out of this dreadful position that we're

688
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Speaker 5: in a flatlining economy and rising unemployment.

689
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Speaker 3: Okay, so what do you want to see?

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Speaker 5: Well, what I want to see is bold and decisive action.

691
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Speaker 5: It's clear that big government's got its throat on the economy.

692
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Speaker 5: It's stifling the hell out of the productive sector. The

693
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: government needs to put it house and order, stop racking

694
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: up debt, getting serious about controlling it spending, and more importantly,

695
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Speaker 5: getting serious about delivering on the kind of important commitments

696
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Speaker 5: that were made to New Zealand. You know, we're living

697
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Speaker 5: in an era where the government mantra is let's go

698
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Speaker 5: for growth. Well, it's clear that the current formula is

699
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Speaker 5: not working. Or what I'm advocating are policies that would

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Speaker 5: give us a serious shot at going for growth. I

701
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Speaker 5: know it because I've had to do it before. Like what, Well,

702
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Speaker 5: we've got public spending is completely out of control. Even

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Speaker 5: if we were to wind back the level of public

704
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Speaker 5: spending to that that occurred pre the COVID era, would

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Speaker 5: be in better shape. If we wind back public debt

706
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Speaker 5: to below thirty percent of GDP as opposed to heading

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Speaker 5: for fifty percent of GDP, we'd have more money to

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Speaker 5: spend on things that matter to us rather than debt servicing.

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Speaker 5: So we're in a terrible spiral and we've got to

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Speaker 5: snap out of it, and that we're not going to

711
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Speaker 5: snap out of it by making heroic assumptions that we're

712
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Speaker 5: going to grow our way out of it. It's clearly

713
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Speaker 5: not working. We need to take bold policy strokes in

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Speaker 5: order to basically unleash the potential that the New Zealand

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Speaker 5: economy has.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what would you cut?

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Speaker 5: Well, for a starter, it's clear that superinnuation setting is

718
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: completely unsustainable and the government should quick smart announce that

719
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Speaker 5: we are going to in relatively short order either it

720
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Speaker 5: every six months wrote the age of eligibility rose from.

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Speaker 14: Sixty to sixty five.

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Speaker 5: We ought to start down that path. We ought to

723
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Speaker 5: control the level of public servants. I mean, we've got

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Speaker 5: a very bloated public feedback.

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Speaker 4: What is this?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you would get the government into a position

727
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Speaker 5: where it's living within its means. We're overspending. We're overspending

728
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Speaker 5: and therefore we need to take the kind of decisions

729
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Speaker 5: around what is the level of public expenditure that's consistent

730
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Speaker 5: with the growth that we want and the public services

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Speaker 5: that we want to fund.

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Speaker 3: Would you get that, Ruth? Would you cut the public

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Speaker 3: servants back to twenty seventeen when I do In took over.

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Speaker 3: So that's a cut of what maybe fourteen thousand or

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Speaker 3: something like that, would you do.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's a pretty good place to start. I mean,

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Speaker 5: and as we've shown you look at the Ministry Education,

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Speaker 5: she has been saying we need value for money. That's

739
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Speaker 5: where we need to start. The idea that you're going

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Speaker 5: to get better education by throwing more money at it.

741
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Speaker 5: It's clearly not the case. You need fundamental reform so

742
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Speaker 5: that we get better value for money for the public

743
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Speaker 5: expenditure that is deployed in the important area. So we've

744
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Speaker 5: got a quantity problem too much, and we've got a

745
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Speaker 5: quality problem too little.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ruth, it's good to talk to you. Thank you

747
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Speaker 3: very much for your time. Ruth Richards and former financement

748
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Speaker 3: is to also chair of the Taxpayers Union.

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Speaker 2: Ever do for c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: The number of criminals escaping their ankle bracelets is shooting out.

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Speaker 3: So it was back in twenty fifteen just sixty four

752
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Speaker 3: people who did this. Last year eight hundred and thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Tony Stewart is Correction's chief probation officer and with us

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Speaker 3: Hey Tony sure to head the now. Part of the

755
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Speaker 3: reason it's going up is because there are more and

756
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Speaker 3: more people who have ankle braslets On.

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Speaker 9: Am I right, Yeah, I mean yes, it would seem

758
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Speaker 9: that way. There has been over the last ten years

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Speaker 9: an increase in the number of people that have been

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Speaker 9: granted electronically monitored bail by the court.

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Speaker 3: What are they doing to get out? Are they cutting it?

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Speaker 18: Well?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a raft of things. I mean, I guess it

764
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Speaker 9: goes without saying that. You know, people have landed themselves

765
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Speaker 9: in this position because they've either been charged with or

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Speaker 9: convicted of breaking the law, and as the data would indicate,

767
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Speaker 9: there are a group of people who are determined to

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Speaker 9: circumvent the system and don't want to be compliant with

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Speaker 9: those conditions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so what happens if they cut it all

771
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Speaker 3: foiler or do something like that? What's the punishment?

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Speaker 9: So we've got a so the electronically monitored bail works

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Speaker 9: through a joint service model between Corrections and police. So

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Speaker 9: at Corrections we have a twenty four to seven team

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Speaker 9: of dedicated trained staff who work just around electronic monitoring

776
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Speaker 9: and at the time an alert comes through that someone

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Speaker 9: is tempering or attempting to abscond, that generates an alert

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Speaker 9: to our team and we are immediately sharing that information

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Speaker 9: to police that they follow up.

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Speaker 3: This says to me that what we should if you've

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Speaker 3: got this many people who are mucking around with their

782
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Speaker 3: ankle brace It's what it says to me is we

783
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Speaker 3: should not be putting anyone who is the risks of

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Speaker 3: the public on an ankle bracelet. Should we.

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Speaker 9: Well, Ultimately, the decision as to who is granted electronically

786
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 9: monitored bail or not sits with the courts. We're really

787
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Speaker 9: focused on making sure that we do our job, which

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Speaker 9: is to really carefully and closely monitor their compliance in

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Speaker 9: terms of the electronic monitoring and as I say, immediately

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Speaker 9: notifying police when we think that there's evidence that are

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Speaker 9: tempering or attempting toward scot totally appreciate the concerns of

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Speaker 9: the public and absolutely here to assure you that we

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Speaker 9: have a zero tolerance for non compliance with any of

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Speaker 9: our sentences or orders and in this instance the ALEX

795
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 9: monitoring component of fail And so again, when we've got

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Speaker 9: that information to suggest that people are doing that, that's

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Speaker 9: immediately passed on to police for follow up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony, thanks very much for your time. Tony Stewart Corrections,

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Speaker 3: Chief Probation Officer.

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Speaker 2: Ever du for c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Do you know you realize it. Do you realize how

802
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: easy it is to cut through an ankle bracelet? So

803
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: I know this because back in the day when I

804
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Speaker 3: was doing the television, we did it once on air

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Speaker 3: and we got an ankle bracelet. I don't know, how

806
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: do we even get our hands on an ankle bracelet,

807
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: And we've got our hands on an ankle bracelet. I

808
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: feel like corrections might have given us the ankle bracelet

809
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: and cut through it on Telly. And because what it

810
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: is is basically rubber and it's not a bit like

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Speaker 3: it's the kind of do you know where you buy

812
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: yourself like an Apple, you know, the smart watch, the

813
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: Apple smart watch, and you get the rubber bangle thing

814
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Speaker 3: on it strap get the rubber strap. It's basically like that.

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Speaker 3: And then which surprised me because I thought if you

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Speaker 3: were on an ankle bracelet would be sort of locking

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Speaker 3: you in, Like I was imagining some sort of medieval

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Speaker 3: thing where we get that, we get two bus of

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Speaker 3: metal clank around the ankle, and we bolt you in,

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Speaker 3: maybe welds you in. You can't get it off. No,

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Speaker 3: it's like it's just a rubber strap. And in the

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Speaker 3: rubber strap is a couple of very fine copper wires

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Speaker 3: that run all the way around, and of course if

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Speaker 3: you cut through, then you break the connection, and then

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Speaker 3: and then you know, at some point corrections comes and

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Speaker 3: salts it out. Anyway, what do you need is just

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Speaker 3: a pair of scissors from your kitchen, Like that's all.

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Speaker 3: You don't even need to get go. You don't even

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Speaker 3: go hard out with like a pair of secateers or

830
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Speaker 3: anything like that. It's just a normal, normal bit of

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Speaker 3: paper scissors all the way through, just one easy cup through.

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Speaker 3: There you go done. Isn't that mental? Blows my mind

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Speaker 3: that that's how we can do it. Anyway, I've got

834
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Speaker 3: to tell you about the air pods. The new airport

835
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: pods sound awesome, So stand by for that quarter past

836
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Speaker 3: Reruth Richardson, Heather has she got omnesia. Eight years of

837
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Speaker 3: gross misconduct. Remoney can't don't be fixed? It was six years,

838
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Speaker 3: wasn't It can't be fixed in less than two years?

839
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Speaker 3: And you can't cut more jobs far out. Actually yeah,

840
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: you can cut more jobs because no jobs have been

841
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: cut out of the public service, which may come as

842
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: something of a shock to you. So I wouldn't mind

843
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Speaker 3: if some jobs are cut and I'm with Ruth. Cut

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Speaker 3: it hard. You're paying these people's wages, aren't sitting there

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00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: and doing very bloody little to change your life? Nineteen

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Speaker 3: past five. Now do you remember the story that we

847
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 3: told you last week about the woman who was fined

848
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Speaker 3: for being in a private car park for just twenty

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Speaker 3: seven seconds. Well, now a christ churchman has revealed he

850
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Speaker 3: was pained by the same company in exactly the same

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00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: car park for parking for only eight seconds. Mike Kelly

852
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Speaker 3: is the chair of the New Zealand Parking Association and

853
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: is with us. Hello, Mike good here the how are

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Speaker 3: you well? Thank you? That's pretty outrageous though, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: It certainly not what we would consider to be a

857
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Speaker 14: fair and reasonable practice.

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Speaker 3: So what do we do about it?

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Speaker 14: Well, what the Parking Association is doing. Just yesterday actually

860
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 14: we formally released our updated to Practice, which is as

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Speaker 14: a set of guidelines that we give out to the industry.

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00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 14: Members can subscribe to that they can use that as

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00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 14: a way of showing the public that they are actually

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Speaker 14: operating in a fair and transparent and what a reasonable manner.

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Speaker 14: But the thing with private parking is that every time

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Speaker 14: you enter that site, you in effect enter into a

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Speaker 14: contract with that operator, and so that that's private. You

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Speaker 14: know that that's a person to a company that have

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Speaker 14: entered into that. But that contract has to be fair

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Speaker 14: and reasonable, and that's what that's what our code sets

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Speaker 14: out to lay out for people, things like care signage, Okay, hang.

872
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Speaker 3: On a sick night before we go down this path.

873
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: Is Parking Services Limited the company that we're talking about

874
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: one of your members?

875
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 14: No, they are not.

876
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So what good is your code of conduct to

877
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: anyone who's been pained by them if that if this

878
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: lot is not one of your members.

879
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 14: So the code of Practice is really there to assure

880
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 14: the public that when they are when they are entering

881
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 14: a car park or that they're going to the services

882
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 14: of a vendor that or that are an operator, that

883
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 14: that operator is put some effort into making sure that operated.

884
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: This operator is not abiding by the code of practice,

885
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 3: is it?

886
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: No, they're not.

887
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: No, do so so, then basically you're on your own

888
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: as a punter. Right if you go in this park

889
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: car park and these cowboys come at you, you're on

890
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: your own. So should you just look at look at

891
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: a ticket that they issue you and go that's ridiculous

892
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: and not pay it.

893
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 14: I think, you know, you have to engage. You can't

894
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 14: just ignore it and take it away.

895
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: Why not?

896
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Speaker 14: But you know because at the end of the day,

897
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 14: you know that they will they will just keep taking

898
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 14: taking it further and further and further.

899
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: So what what happens at the end?

900
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Speaker 20: Then?

901
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 14: Well, in this case, what the dispatch tribunal appears to

902
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 14: have found that I can't speak specifically about the case,

903
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 14: but the appears to have found that they did not

904
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Speaker 14: operate an affair and reason more manner.

905
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 3: What happens if they keep taking it? Like, keep coming

906
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: at you, keep coming at you, keep coming at You're

907
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: what's the worse that can happen?

908
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 14: That I couldn't answer. That's a legal question. I'm afraid

909
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 14: a lawyer, so but it could also, you know, could

910
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 14: also have consequences that you know, I couldn't describe.

911
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, why why can't you describe them?

912
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Speaker 14: I'm not a lawyer. You know. The difficulty is that

913
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Speaker 14: this is a contract between that organization and this person,

914
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 14: and you know it is fear to say that in

915
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 14: our view, that is far from fear and reasonable.

916
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: Outrageous, isn't it? Okay? Mike thank you very much, Mike Kelly,

917
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Speaker 3: Chair of the New Zealand Parking Association. Heather, I dropped

918
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Speaker 3: some washing off one day and I did some more

919
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: the next day, which I think is at the same

920
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: car park, because the car parks the laundromat car park,

921
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Speaker 3: I got a ticket for parking overnight, huge invoice, and

922
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Speaker 3: then I didn't pay it. I think I think we

923
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: might have discovered the way that you deal with parking

924
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: services limited, which is possibly that you ignore them and

925
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: then you see what happens. I don't know, be as

926
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Speaker 3: vexatious as they are. Five twenty two.

927
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Speaker 1: On your slut speaker, on the iHeart app and in

928
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: your car on your drive home, it's Heather fuplic Ellen

929
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

930
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Speaker 1: mobile news talks.

931
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Speaker 3: They'd being five twenty five. We're going to speak to

932
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Speaker 3: one of the former Black Ferns because of course got

933
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Speaker 3: the Black Ferns playing overnight against Canada. Now do you

934
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: remember the electric plane that in New Zealand announced a

935
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: couple of years ago that was supposed to fly between

936
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Speaker 3: the North and the South Island and deliver New Zealand

937
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: post cargo and be here by next year. Yeah, it's

938
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Speaker 3: not happening. What a surprise. Turns out the plane is

939
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Speaker 3: not going to be here next year and probably not

940
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: going to be here for many years because it hasn't

941
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Speaker 3: been certified yet. Certification, by the way, is not a

942
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: quick process. As the aviation expert Irene King says, certification

943
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: can take up to ten or fifteen years, and as

944
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: Irene also says, there was maybe a little too much

945
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: marketing hype, because of course there was, because of course

946
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 3: that's all it ever was marketing hype, which we knew

947
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: because when a New Zealand's kiddy Hanafin, who loves the plane,

948
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: came on the show to talk about the plane in

949
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: December two years ago, we asked her, is this just

950
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: a little bit gimmicky? And she said no, but of

951
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 3: course it was. That's why we asked her. It was

952
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: always gimmicky. You could see it. I mean, what use

953
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: is a small plane that can't even fly from Wellington

954
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: to Parmas to north that's too far for it to go,

955
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: that can only deliver parcels, but not too many parcels

956
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: because it can't carry too much weight. Of course, it's gimmicky.

957
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: This is a lesson to corporates. I think, stop trying

958
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: to green wash. It doesn't work. We can see through it.

959
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: No one believes a plane that can only fly between

960
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: Wellington and Nelson and can't carry anything other than a

961
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: few parcels is gonna work in any kind of significant

962
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: way to better the airline or the climate. Also, if

963
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: you are in a greenwash through these nice climate announcements,

964
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: make sure that you actually deliver the thing that you announce,

965
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: because if you don't, you just look silly like you

966
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: do today. And also, by the way, if you are

967
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 3: an airline that is struggling to meet deadlines and pricing

968
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: expectations because everything is going wrong right now, from plane

969
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: engines to COVID, maybe stick to just doing your job

970
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: because that's big enough. And forget the gimmicks verdopers, the

971
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: Allen the air pods can translate languages in your ears.

972
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: How cool is that? So this is the new airpod's

973
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: Pro three, which is going to set you back a

974
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: fair amount of money, So you're not maybe this is

975
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: your Christmas present if you've been saving your pennies all year. Anyway,

976
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: never mind what it does. I don't want to talk

977
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: this down because I'm very excited about it. It uses

978
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 3: artificial intelligence, so it sticking in your ear. It uses

979
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: artificial intelligence to do real time translations, using Siri as

980
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: a kind of like robot interpreter that immediately converts the words.

981
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: So the chap who's written a piece for The New

982
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: York Times, Brian Chen, who's done it, was chatting to

983
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: his friend who was speaking Spanish Toam and he chucked

984
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: the air pods in. He can't speak Spanish. His mate

985
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: was speaking Spanish to m He understood everything. Later, he says,

986
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: I reviewed a transcript of the conversation on my iPhone

987
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: to confirm the accuracy of the translation. Except for a

988
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: few mistakes where SyRI mixed up pronouns referring to my

989
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: girlfriend's my friend's girlfriend as he it was solid. Now

990
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: this this solves out a it problem. Next time he's

991
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: doing his little thing on the tiles in Parliament where

992
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 3: he just wants to speak today, just shovy little air

993
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: pods and turn on the Mardi translation and you're with

994
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: him the whole way. Can't get away with it, Kenny

995
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: news Us next.

996
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

997
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: It's heatherdf c Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

998
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: like no one else news talks.

999
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: They'd be got a surf.

1000
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 11: Right.

1001
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: If you think the air pods sound cool, you might

1002
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: want to hear about the glasses though they don't sound

1003
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: very cool. These the Apple glasses complete fail by the

1004
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: looks of things. I'll run you through that before six o'clock. Also,

1005
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: we've got the sports huddles standing by and we're going

1006
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: to talk about cool roads as well after six. It's

1007
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: twenty four away from six. Now we've got the Blackfood

1008
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: semi final in the Women's Rugby World Cup tomorrow morning.

1009
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: They're up against Canada, which is going to be interesting

1010
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: because the last two times the team have met, we

1011
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: drew once and then we lost once. Step Tehide Fox

1012
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: played for the Black Ferns at two Rugby World Cups.

1013
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: High step Kielder, how's it going, I'm well, thanks mate.

1014
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: How do you rate our chances of beating them? Oh?

1015
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 21: Look, we know how to play finals for the and

1016
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 21: going from the last two times, I know that it's

1017
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 21: been a loss in a draw and been pretty close

1018
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 21: for the girls.

1019
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: But New Zealand up for.

1020
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 21: It, and you know they haven't had their full eighty

1021
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 21: performance on show yet, but we can see what they

1022
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 21: can do in moments and I think if they piece

1023
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 21: that altogether, they'll they'll go well tomorrow morning.

1024
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, how far has I mean, we've obviously made it

1025
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: all the way through to the squad has made it

1026
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: all the way through to the finals before. How far

1027
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: has Canada made it?

1028
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 21: I think they've only ever made it to Oh, they've

1029
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 21: made it to the final twenty fourteen. They've played England

1030
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 21: and yeah, lost that lost that final. That was the Yeah,

1031
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 21: we didn't even make it to the that was before

1032
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 21: they had quarterfinals, so we bowed out and didn't even

1033
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 21: make it through to the semis. So yeah, Canada made

1034
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 21: it through there.

1035
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: But then we've got the mean to lead, right because

1036
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: we've made it through the finals and won the finals

1037
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: heaps of times.

1038
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 21: Yeah exactly, And that's what that's what I mean about

1039
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 21: playing finals for the other girls knowing it's you know,

1040
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 21: it's in their blood, and then they know they've they've

1041
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 21: got a standard to with hold on that jersey and

1042
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 21: I think that they will definitely pull one out for

1043
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 21: this and oh, no doubts. It's going to be a

1044
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 21: tough game. I mean, as we've seen in the quarterfinals.

1045
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 21: South Africa really brought it to the girls, which was good.

1046
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 21: I think we had a tougher semi finals, so that's good,

1047
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 21: good for the girls going forward. But yeah, it's going

1048
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 21: to be a great game.

1049
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1050
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: How how bad luck is it though to have Georgia

1051
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: Miller out?

1052
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, I mean she's an amazing player, and I

1053
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 21: guess those of us on Kennbury know what she's capable of.

1054
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 21: We've seen her come through the ranks and yeah, managed

1055
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 21: to have it for one year for Kennbury and she's

1056
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 21: you know, she's she's huge talent. But I have no

1057
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 21: doubt and now our Lucy's I mean we've got Kennedy

1058
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 21: coming through and she's a co captain. You know, she's

1059
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 21: got leadership, she's she's got the skills on the field

1060
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 21: and she she'll bring it no matter what, She'll do

1061
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 21: anything for that team. She'll leave it all on the field.

1062
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 21: So I think we've definitely got the beck up. I mean,

1063
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 21: it's not ideal, but hopefully she'll be with us for

1064
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 21: this for the finals. All going well, but I know

1065
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 21: the girls are going to think about one game at

1066
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 21: a time and we've got to get this over the line.

1067
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: First, good stuff, Steff listen, thank you very much for

1068
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 3: talking us through that stuff. Tilill hired the Fox who's

1069
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: a former Black Feld And by the way, the game

1070
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: is on six a m twenty one away from.

1071
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: Six Friday Sports utle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

1072
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: Find your one of a kind?

1073
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 15: Here comes Jordy Boobs my last barrier as the Canway

1074
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 15: and is so cracky?

1075
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 17: How is coming?

1076
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: How is best?

1077
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 11: Side by side? And this time it goes to Tamish.

1078
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: And he's a win the Hamish Cup.

1079
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 12: The Olympic champion becomes the world champion.

1080
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 8: Stop kay let the colors through.

1081
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 18: Second half excellence and exident once more.

1082
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 2: The Black Ferns.

1083
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 7: Semifinal bound at the Rugby World Cup.

1084
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: Right on the sports title this evening we have Andrew

1085
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: Gordy's sports commentator and Kate Well's one new sports porter.

1086
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: Hell are you two get a dam?

1087
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Speaker 6: How are we good?

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00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: Thank you very much?

1089
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Speaker 8: Gordy.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the Black Ferns are going to prevail?

1091
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1092
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 6: Of course I do.

1093
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 11: Like I'm going to say anything else on your program

1094
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 11: on a Friday afternoon. Yeah, look, I do think they

1095
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 11: will prevail and I actually think most of the world

1096
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 11: hopes that the Black Ferns prevail because I think when

1097
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 11: you consider what most people would say as the top

1098
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 11: two teams in the world, they would say England and

1099
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 11: New Zealand, and I think, especially when you consider the

1100
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 11: last Rugby World Cup final between these two, I think

1101
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 11: most rugby fans would love to see a rematch of

1102
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 11: these two countries. It's going to be really tough without

1103
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 11: George Miller, obviously, but no, I'm certainly back in there.

1104
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 8: Yes, okay.

1105
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: We talked about this last week on the Sports title

1106
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 3: how little coverage there's been, and it remains the case

1107
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: that we've hardly talked about it. And what I'm noticing

1108
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: is a pattern that with the boys when they get

1109
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: into the Rugby World Cup, we watch every single game,

1110
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: but with the girls, we don't really tune in until

1111
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: the finals time, do we.

1112
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 4: Well.

1113
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 10: I guess it's just a demographic thing as well. I

1114
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 10: know a lot of younger people have been tuning into

1115
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 10: most of the games, but I'd say you're probably getting

1116
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 10: most people now that it's coming to the finals. I

1117
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 10: know there's been a lot of heat on media as well,

1118
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 10: but I think if you look and you watch all

1119
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 10: the bulletins or you look in the papers every day.

1120
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 10: There is coverage there, but like you need that, when

1121
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 10: the finals do come around, there is more coverage and

1122
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 10: more attention. So I'm excited for it.

1123
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: Literally just called me old, didn't you. No, well you do.

1124
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: It's a demographic thing and the young people are tuning

1125
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: in and if I'm not a young people, what am i?

1126
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: And old people.

1127
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 10: Also also because there's a lot of you know, content

1128
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 10: creators and influence as I call it, that are you know,

1129
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 10: they're doing a lot of promo work on social media,

1130
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 10: so I think they're attracting more people, younger people who

1131
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 10: are on their phones all the time to watch. So

1132
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 10: I think that's a great thing.

1133
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: Now you're willing Kate. Now you're like, oh, the young,

1134
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: younger people on their phones, not like me, not like

1135
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: me reading books, my high faluting books. Now, Gordie, what

1136
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: about that, Jordie Bemershe.

1137
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 11: Wasn't that extraordinary? And do you know, I'll be stunned

1138
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 11: if that's not your Halberg Sports moment of the Year.

1139
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 11: I just thought it was utterly brilliant and I'm thrilled

1140
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 11: for the bloke because that is that moment is going

1141
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 11: to set up his entire career like that is that

1142
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 11: is the billboard moments the New Zealand athletics. It is

1143
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 11: absolutely everything that you know impossible is nothing, you can

1144
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 11: do anything, you know, never give up and had all

1145
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 11: those whole hearts but didn't it you know? And seeing

1146
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 11: seeing the guy come from miles off the pace to

1147
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 11: his opponent has two times you know, Olympic and World

1148
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 11: debeating champion on the line was just the stuff of legend.

1149
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1150
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: Is it still the case that you can be like,

1151
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: we're really good at all the other stuff in athletics,

1152
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: but the running is the glory stuff, isn't it.

1153
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1154
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 10: And I think you have to look at the history

1155
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 10: as well. New Zealand has such a rich history with

1156
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 10: middle distance running and to see that continue is awesome.

1157
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 10: I love all the little slogans. Andrew Gordy could probably

1158
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 10: come up with a few more, so Jordy Beamish, but

1159
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 10: also you have to look at the ones coming through

1160
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 10: Sam Ruth. We've heard so much about who's got all

1161
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 10: these records as a youngster, seeing what Jordy Beamish has

1162
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 10: done is only a good thing.

1163
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 11: And I think looking at the meal table.

1164
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 5: New Zealand is.

1165
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 10: Force behind the Yuis, Kenya and Canada. So those two

1166
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 10: gold medals have set New Zealand up really well.

1167
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: We are doing well now. Speaking of running, Kate, have

1168
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 3: you ever heard of a woman called Ruth Croft?

1169
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, I'm actually I would say a very poor

1170
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 10: trail runner compared to Ruth and I followed her quite closely,

1171
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 10: and she is an absolute legend. I'm staying awake for

1172
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 10: twenty three hours, I think is something, but doing it

1173
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 10: running at a very fast paces is unbelievable. So she

1174
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 10: is an epic athlete.

1175
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 3: I'm so impressed that you. Did you know, Gordy, did

1176
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 3: you know who Ruth Croft is?

1177
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 11: I didn't know who Ruth Croft was, but I'm going

1178
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 11: to say I have immense respect for anyone who can

1179
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 11: do that. I'm in an age now either, and I'm

1180
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 11: sure you'll know this, but I have problems with my

1181
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 11: right calf muscle just trotting down the stairs every day,

1182
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 11: So respect for people like that. Yeah, my knees are

1183
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 11: still good, thank god, it's the calves.

1184
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: Are you looking after your knees if you're doing all

1185
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 3: this running well?

1186
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 10: I'm also I love to play meatball and basketball, so

1187
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 10: I do get quite sure, you know, past the ten

1188
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 10: k mark, I get a bit achy, but I try

1189
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 10: to look after myself. But it's probably only going to

1190
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 10: get worse, isn't it.

1191
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 3: Yes, it is, yes, And then when you're an old

1192
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: post that you don't know there's a question mark at

1193
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: the end of that sentence. Kate. Absolutely, It's not like

1194
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: you have to wait very long because Gordy and I

1195
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 3: are only about forty, so it's just around the corner

1196
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: about yeah, about I will take a break back, come

1197
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: back and talk about the rugby in a tick sixteen

1198
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: to six.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand South of East

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00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: International Real Team, the Global Leader and Luxury real Estate

1201
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: right back of.

1202
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: The sports shuttle thirteen away from six, Kate Wells Andrew Gordy. Now, Kate,

1203
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: are you going to be watching cam Roy guard this

1204
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: weekend to see how he's going?

1205
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 10: I will. I mean, it couldn't be better timing put it.

1206
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 10: With all of those injuries to the halfbacks. I think

1207
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 10: we're a little bit cursed in that department. I mean,

1208
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 10: I hope people don't tackle him too hard. There's some

1209
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 10: the kids coming up.

1210
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: Gordy actually this race is a very good point. I mean,

1211
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: every player out there must know we need cam Royguard

1212
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: right for the All Black.

1213
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 14: Let's look after him.

1214
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: So they go, they will go, look that we know

1215
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: we want to beat County's Manacau, but it's more important

1216
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: that we don't tackle cam roy Guard too hard.

1217
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 11: This is the greatest positional crisis, so I think since

1218
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 11: the twenty eleven Rugby World Cup, since Dan Carter and

1219
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 11: then who was it, Colin Slade and then we went

1220
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 11: through Aaron Crude and down to Petty Weeper and Stephen Donald.

1221
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 11: It was just ridiculous. And this is kind of the

1222
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 11: situation we're in now. I supposed to concern for me

1223
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 11: here there is the guy's had a stress fracture in

1224
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 11: his foot, hasn't he. So it's not just so much

1225
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 11: don't tackle him, just don't run anywhere from don't want

1226
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 11: a pressure on your foot for goodness sake, just put

1227
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 11: your feet up.

1228
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 10: You've got to look at Noah Hosten as well, who

1229
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 10: they got that quite quickly from ankle injury, and now

1230
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 10: he's gone and broke in the other ankle straight away.

1231
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 10: So it's like do we really need to play in

1232
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 10: But you kind of trust that they're doing the right thing,

1233
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 10: you hope.

1234
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: So are you know what's up with this rotating captains

1235
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: and the silver Ferns, Gordy?

1236
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 11: Well, I guess it's a pretty delicate situation in the

1237
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 11: Silver Ferns at the moment, isn't it? And with I

1238
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 11: suppose a vacuum in the captaincy space, I can kind

1239
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 11: of understand that Evet mccauls and jury isn't coming in

1240
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 11: to be the heat. She's an interim coach, so she's

1241
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 11: not really doesn't really have the authority I suppose to

1242
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 11: be making any hard and fast and long term decisions

1243
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 11: for this team. She's really just trying to get them

1244
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 11: through this period, isn't she. So look, is it something

1245
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 11: that I would be advocating for in usual circumstances. Absolutely not.

1246
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 11: But these are not usual circumstances.

1247
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: But where isn't it? Kate? What do you think's going

1248
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: on here?

1249
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1250
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 10: Well, I think Andrew's right. They don't have a head

1251
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 10: coach in place. Everything's just kind of a you know,

1252
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 10: game by game at this stage. But you would like

1253
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 10: to think that with the players and the team now,

1254
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 10: they do have a you know, two people, two strong

1255
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 10: contenters that could be keptain. Whether they just don't want

1256
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 10: to do it until they have a head coach splotted in,

1257
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 10: you don't know, but I mean you'd like to hope

1258
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 10: they keep one or two of the saying throughout the

1259
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 10: whole series and it's not just a you know, hand

1260
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 10: it out for fun, pick me picnic, because otherwise that

1261
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 10: could be quite confusing on the court and be a

1262
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 10: bit conflicting and each of the games.

1263
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, undoubtedly it will be. Now I tell you

1264
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 3: what I found interesting, Guardian, and I want you to

1265
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: take on it because I know, I mean, you've obviously

1266
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: been reporting for a fair bit the media. Apparently New

1267
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 3: Zealand media were not allowed to ask Liam Lawson any

1268
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: questions about his future on the F one grid for

1269
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: next year. Is that weird?

1270
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 11: It's totally weird. It's utterly ridiculous, and I'm actually pleased

1271
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 11: to see. I don't know who else that involved, but

1272
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 11: I did read the stuff article and they see that

1273
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 11: they basically.

1274
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 14: A media opportunity.

1275
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 11: We're exactly the right thing to do. Yeah, if you'd

1276
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 11: ever report on the sport or the athlete, and I

1277
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 11: don't care what sport it is, the Tuns of that,

1278
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 11: we'll ask a questions. It is up to you to

1279
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 11: figure out which questions we're going to ask and how

1280
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 11: are you going to answer them. I hate this dictatorial

1281
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 11: style that we often see from from very very powerful

1282
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 11: sports and sporting organizations. It's just disrespectful and it's like

1283
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 11: we're either here to cover.

1284
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 14: It or not.

1285
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 11: You can't have it both ways. I suppose the if

1286
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 11: one is just so big and powerful they think they

1287
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 11: can throw their weight around like this. But let's see

1288
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 11: how far that goes. And I'm sure, look, there's going

1289
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 11: to be plenty of plenty of reporters and whatnot that

1290
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 11: will suck that up and just tow the line, but

1291
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 11: there'll be a few that don't. And if that tips

1292
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 11: in the other direction, you're doing great harm to your score.

1293
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wouldn't suck us up, would you, Kate?

1294
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: Oh No?

1295
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 10: And I think we're seeing it as well with the

1296
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 10: black ferns and saying you're not allowed to ask, we're

1297
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 10: not allowed to find out what Georgia Miller's injury is.

1298
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 10: I don't know what the big secret is. And going

1299
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 10: back to Liam Lawson, I'm sure people would have a

1300
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 10: top tier PR team to help him answer a question,

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Speaker 10: you know, in some roundabout way, but I had. It's

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Speaker 10: just frustrating by taking the mickey a little bit and

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Speaker 10: trying to control everything, which unfortunately they can't.

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Speaker 3: Kate is the reason that they don't want to tell

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Speaker 3: people what Georgia Miller's injury is, so that the if

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Speaker 3: she was to pop up again at some like, let's say,

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Speaker 3: if we're lucky enough to have her back in the finals,

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Speaker 3: to avoid the opposing team targeting that part of her body.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I honestly have no idea. She was training by

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Speaker 10: herself yesterday when our team was there on that team naming,

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Speaker 10: which is unusual because if someone's training, you would think

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Speaker 10: they're okay. So it's like, is it a head knock?

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Speaker 10: But they're playing their cardbury close to their chest. But

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Speaker 10: I just can't believe that they haven't fronted up about it.

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Speaker 10: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is weird. Good you got a theory.

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Speaker 11: Yet the only thing that I can potentially think of

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Speaker 11: is that, let's say it's an injury that rules her

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Speaker 11: out of the World Cup. If they do that, I'm

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Speaker 11: pretty sure she has to leave the environment, and perhaps

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Speaker 11: they don't want to do that or don't deem that

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Speaker 11: it's necessary. So I'm purely guessing here from the outside.

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Speaker 11: But if they were to say George's, you know, she's

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Speaker 11: got an injury that's bad enough that she's out of

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Speaker 11: the World Cup, she would have to leave the environment,

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Speaker 11: and that's probably something that neither the player nor the

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Speaker 11: team wants at this particular point in the tournament. So

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Speaker 11: that's my rogue theory. Take it or leave it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know it's better than it's no worse than

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Speaker 3: any other we've heard. Thank you guys, appreciate it. Enjoy

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Speaker 3: your week in the sport. Andrew Gordy and Kate Wells. Right,

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Speaker 3: we'll deal with the Mark Zuckerberg fail next. Seven away

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Speaker 3: from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by News Talk zeb.

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Speaker 3: Heather my Georgia Miller. Theory is that it's a lady

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01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: issue injury that's too private to discuss. What are you

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Speaker 3: talking about? It's the black ferns. You know, you talk

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01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 3: about everything, talk about all your lady issues. Is absolutely fine.

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: Four away from six. Now, you think that when Apple

1341
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: rolls out technology, they try the stuff beforehand, and they

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Speaker 3: tested to the nth degree to make sure it works.

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Speaker 3: But when Mark Zuckerberg was speaking at the live launch

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Speaker 3: event for Metsa's new aiglasses, he tried and I stress.

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Speaker 3: He tried to show how the glasses can pick up

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Speaker 3: a WhatsApp call.

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Speaker 22: So I think our call will be coming in any moment.

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Speaker 2: Now WhatsApp video call.

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Speaker 22: There we go, Oh, why, let's what happened. That's too bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happens.

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Speaker 3: It's not a big deal, right, So she had another go, okay.

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Speaker 22: There's the actual video call. All right, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 22: pick that up with my my neural band. This is

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Speaker 22: you know, it happens.

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Speaker 3: It does happen. So he tried a third time and

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Speaker 3: it didn't work. And it's getting awkward now, so he

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Speaker 3: tries a fourth time.

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Speaker 2: Let's go for a fourth all right, try it again.

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Speaker 22: I keep on messing this up.

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Speaker 3: Someone's going to get fired. He tries it again.

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Speaker 22: I don't know what to tell you, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, but.

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Speaker 22: We're gonna buzz come out here, and we're just going

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Speaker 22: to go to the next thing I wanted to show.

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Speaker 21: And he's up.

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Speaker 3: Go to the next thing. The glasses look like ray bands,

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Speaker 3: you're going to be able to buy them for eight

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Speaker 3: hundred US dollars at the end of the month, but

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Speaker 3: maybe you don't want to because I don't know, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't look like they're working anyway. There's there is more.

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Speaker 3: There is more of this, so standby. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: it and speak to Nick Legan of Infrastructure New Zealand

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Speaker 3: for next about Transmission Gully.

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Speaker 1: We're business meets Insight, Money Love a business hour. We

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Speaker 2: You're a good ads news talk said b.

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Speaker 3: Evening. Coming up in the next hour, Peter Lewis is

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Speaker 3: going to be out of Asia for US after half

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Speaker 3: past BARRYSOAPA will wrap the political week that was and

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray on Donald Trump leaving the building. It's coming

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Speaker 3: up eight past six. Now do you need any more

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01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: proof that new roads are great? I've got some for you.

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Speaker 3: New analysis claims three major road projects around Wellington have

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Speaker 3: delivered a combined benefit of one hundred and seventy three

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Speaker 3: million dollars, no deaths and quicker journeys. So the study

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Speaker 3: looked at Transmission Gully MacKaye's to Peckapicker and Peck Pecker

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Speaker 3: to Utucky Transmission Gully save drivers combined one point nine

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Speaker 3: million hours across last year. McKay's to Pickapecker save one

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Speaker 3: point two million hours. And Nick Legget is the Chief

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Speaker 3: Executive of Infrastructure New Zealand, which is of course behind

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Speaker 3: the research. Nick, Hello, hello, Heather Worth worth all of

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Speaker 3: the money spent on this, worth.

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Speaker 6: All the money spent.

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Speaker 23: I mean, as you say, we know new roads are

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Speaker 23: good and deliver benefits, but New Zealand does an appalling

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Speaker 23: job of actually looking over our shoulder and evaluating these projects.

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Speaker 23: And then we wonder why it's so difficult to make

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Speaker 23: project ideas stick. You know, we have a poor planning

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Speaker 23: system and a funding system. We know that, but actually

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Speaker 23: you know we're also a bit of a bunch of naysayers,

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Speaker 23: so we do need to build an evidence space. And yeah,

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Speaker 23: I'm an Infrastructure New Zealand is a small shop, but

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Speaker 23: we worked with Infometrics in the Wellington and carpety and

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Speaker 23: put into our councils to get this off the ground.

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Speaker 23: One hundred and seventy three million dollar benefits and that's

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Speaker 23: just in one year. So if you think over ten years,

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Speaker 23: over twenty years, over thirty years, that all accumulates and

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Speaker 23: you've got roads that more than pay for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. Transmission Gully saved drive is an average

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Speaker 3: of nine minutes per trip that brings the trip from

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Speaker 3: what down to what.

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Speaker 23: Well, it depends where you're coming from obviously. I mean

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Speaker 23: if you drive from Wellington to Parmas to north you're

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Speaker 23: probably saving fifteen minutes one way across all these roads.

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Speaker 23: But at peak time this is the amazing thing. If

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Speaker 23: you're driving from Carperdy to Wellington at the peak hour,

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Speaker 23: Transmission Gully saves thirty seven minutes one way. Now, I

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Speaker 23: mean that's just that's a mammoth saving. And you think

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Speaker 23: about the time that people have got to do other

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Speaker 23: things in their lives, you know, whether it's working, being

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Speaker 23: productive you know economically, or just spending time with their family.

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Speaker 3: If you've got that right, thirty seven minutes yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: how was it taking people to drive down.

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Speaker 6: Well It's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the.

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Speaker 23: Carperty to Wellington saving at peak time is that's that's

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Speaker 23: the huge that's the huge benefit here because you could

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Speaker 23: often spend it and it wasn't unheard of for people

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Speaker 23: to spend an hour an hour and a quarter in

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Speaker 23: the car, so.

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Speaker 6: Just one way.

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Speaker 23: So yeah, just and you mentioned the safety, I mean

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Speaker 23: touch wood. We haven't had a death on any of

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Speaker 23: these new roads yet and that's the other benefit and

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Speaker 23: we've seen that with other roads and national significance as well.

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Speaker 23: So the trauma and you know, the tragedy that better

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Speaker 23: roads save us as a nation are pretty amazing.

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Speaker 3: Now listen, what's been in the impact on property values.

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Speaker 23: Well, what's happened is that there's been a better, a

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Speaker 23: greater rebalancing between high Wellington property prices and those and

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Speaker 23: put it are on the carpety coast. So what it

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Speaker 23: appears these roads have done is just you know, equalize

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Speaker 23: out that price. And that's because people can obviously get

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Speaker 23: to Wellington faster, and it's also it's an easy of

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Speaker 23: access that makes it more attractive to live outside the city.

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Speaker 23: Although to be fair, you know we've COVID and that's

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Speaker 23: probably you know that could have contributed to that sort

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Speaker 23: of move as well. But for places like Puttidua, where

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Speaker 23: of course I've got a bit of a personal interest

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01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 23: that there are now seventy four thousand more people who

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Speaker 23: live within sixty minutes of the pututo A city center.

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Speaker 6: So you think about what that does.

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Speaker 23: It just makes it more accessible, It sort of cements

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Speaker 23: it more as a as a central hub for the

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Speaker 23: Wellington region as an alternative to Wellington City. And then

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Speaker 23: the unlocking of the Carpety Coast. I think we're going

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Speaker 23: to see massive growth on Carpety and it's already happening,

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Speaker 23: but in the years to come. And that's the other

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Speaker 23: point here, right, Like, it doesn't all just happen at once.

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Speaker 23: We're pretty small country, but this will have this will

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Speaker 23: reverberate positively, I think for decades.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, did I see that they've broken

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Speaker 3: the soil on the Melling Interchange?

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Speaker 6: They have?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's another great project for the Wellington region. And

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Speaker 23: so hither we want leadership on these projects. You know,

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Speaker 23: infrastructure New Zealand spends a lot of time saying, look,

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Speaker 23: we want greater by partisanship around of the structure, and

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Speaker 23: we do, but we want political courage to lead out

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Speaker 23: and say on behalf of business and communities. We do

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Speaker 23: need better safer roads in different parts of the country.

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Speaker 23: And what we hope is that providing this kind of

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Speaker 23: evidence will make politicians braver and get more agreement across

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Speaker 23: the aisle that actually roading is something that is a

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Speaker 23: country we should be investing and if we want to

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Speaker 23: be prosperous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what that thirty seven minutes

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Speaker 3: is pretty convincing. Nick, Thank you as always. Nick leag at,

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Speaker 3: Chief Executive Infrastructure, New Zealand. It's coming up thirteen past.

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Speaker 2: Six, Heather Duplessy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Whether that is a meta product fail not an Apple fail?

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01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 3: Quite right, Ray, And I'm sorry about that. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: the only fail of the day, by the way, what

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Speaker 3: was happening to Mark Zuckerberg? Earlier? Mark had a helper

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Speaker 3: trying to demonstrate that the glasses can help you to cook.

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Speaker 3: The guy is a chef called Jack Munkuso, and he

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Speaker 3: hasn't done anything right. He's standing in front of an

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Speaker 3: empty bowl with the bunch of ingredients and asks the glasses.

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Speaker 2: What do I do? First?

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Speaker 3: You've already combined the base ingredients, so now greet the

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Speaker 3: pair and generally combine it with the bass sauce.

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Speaker 17: All right, I think the WiFi might be messed up.

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Speaker 22: Sorry, back to you, Mark, It's all good. You know what,

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Speaker 22: It's all good. It's uh. The irony of the whole

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Speaker 22: thing is that you spend years making technology and then

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Speaker 22: the Wi Fi at the day kind of catches you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is not convincing it because if your

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Speaker 3: WiFi is stuffing up, Mark Zuckerberg wine is definitely stuffing up.

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Speaker 3: I don't have Wi Fi like you, so my glasses

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Speaker 3: aren't going to work. So anyway, best of luck with that.

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Speaker 1: Six fourteen it's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics, it's all

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Ellen and to

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Speaker 1: mess for insurance.

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Speaker 2: Convince Kwy Safer. You're in good heads, Please talk Feather.

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Speaker 3: I use transmission Gully often traveling from CARPETI and back

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Speaker 3: to Wellington and the hut is of property Valuer. Previously

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Speaker 3: it would take me seventy five to ninety minutes peak time.

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Speaker 3: Now it's forty five minutes. I mean that's remarkable. It's

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Speaker 3: also I mean, what is that that's a saving of

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Speaker 3: in some cases forty five minutes. It's nut so how good.

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Speaker 3: It's also now totally predictable, so I don't have to

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Speaker 3: factor in a contingency of twenty to thirty minutes to

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Speaker 3: allow for traffic jams should they happen. Thank you, Peter,

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Speaker 3: seventeen past six now Barry Soaper, senior political correspondent, of course,

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Speaker 3: raps the political week that was Welcome back.

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Speaker 8: Barry, hello again here right.

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Speaker 3: How big a deal do you? I mean, obviously the

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Speaker 3: GDP contraction, the shock that it was was a big deal.

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Speaker 3: But is it a lasting big deal?

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Speaker 8: No, I don't believe so. I mean, if you read

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Speaker 8: all the data now that it's come through as a

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Speaker 8: result of the stats firm, I mean contly well, no, Politically,

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Speaker 8: I think things are going to bounce back, and I think,

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Speaker 8: you know, it may not be as rapid over this

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Speaker 8: quarter that we're currently in, but the final quarter of

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Speaker 8: this year, I think we'll see a better one. And

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Speaker 8: we have to for if national wants to go into

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 8: the election year in some way confident. But confidence is

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Speaker 8: all about the mood of the general public, and if

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01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 8: we're always talking stuff down, the public get in a

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Speaker 8: very depressed state and it's very hard politically to survive

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Speaker 8: in that. Let's hope the all Blacks when next week

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Speaker 8: against the Wallabies, because if the Wallabies beat the All Blacks,

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Speaker 8: I think you know this. Governments down well, I think generally.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you read the media, you know things

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01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 8: are being talked down. No matter what is being done

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01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 8: that may be positive, you never really hear about it.

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Speaker 6: Barry.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm open to criticizing the media as

1543
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: much as you are, but you can't be Pollyanna about this.

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Speaker 3: This is the hardest recession that anyone alive can remember.

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Speaker 8: I'm not doubting that.

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Speaker 3: What do you expect people to do to pretend well?

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 8: I think they have to put their thinking caps on,

1548
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 8: as they did in nineteen eighty four to eighty seven,

1549
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 8: and know that to get out of a situation in

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01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 8: that case left by Rob Muldoon, you've got to really

1551
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 8: work very hard and it takes some considerable time to

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01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 8: turn the tanker around.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about the government needs to put their

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01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 3: thinking caps on?

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01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 8: No, I'm talking about the public when they go out

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Speaker 8: and respond to these opinion polls. I mean to say

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01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 8: that basically the government is at fault for not doing

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01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 8: what it said it was going to do. It's done

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 8: many positive things, it's a very hard time to be

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Speaker 8: in government. One job I would not like at the

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Speaker 8: moment is to be the finance minister. But you know,

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Speaker 8: and to have a reserve bank, I must say that

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01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 8: is so called independent from the government doing what it's

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Speaker 8: done in recent months. So you know, I think you're

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Speaker 8: going to see a fifty basis point reduction next month

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Speaker 8: in the ocr followed by another twenty five points before

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Speaker 8: the end of the year, and then we'll see that

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Speaker 8: money being injected into the economy and the country feeling

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Speaker 8: better about itself.

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Speaker 3: Well what you hope so and you can't be sure

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01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 3: of that though, because we're about we've talked about the

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01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 3: country being feeling better about itself and twenty five and

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Speaker 3: we're not right. So that's the problem. And this is

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Speaker 3: and that pole that you talked about, I think is

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01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 3: a very big moment for this government where they probably

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01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 3: already realized it, but we didn't realize as the media

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01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 3: and commentators how much this government are being blamed by

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01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 3: voters for what has happened.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I think we probably in a way did that

1580
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 8: because things hadn't been turned around as quickly as they

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01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 8: could have been. We've seen national really floundering in the

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01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 8: opinion pole stakes, and not even but the Prime Minister himself.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think you know, I've watched what thirteen

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01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 8: prime ministers since I've been covering the political beat, and

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01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 8: Luxton is no worse than a lot of them. Everybody's

1586
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 8: saying he's got no idea. Well, I'm sorry, I think

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Speaker 8: Chris Luxon will turn out to be quite a good

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01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 8: prime minister of this country.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Shane Jones, the Deputy Leader of New Zealand, were

1590
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 3: making Shane Jones the Deputy Leader, to put Stuart Nash

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 3: in his box when he gets into news. I hardly

1592
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: think that's a problem now, No.

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Speaker 8: No, I think the message you've been sent out to

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01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 8: stew quite clearly that don't expect a leadership role in

1595
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 8: New Zealand. First, but in fairness to Stu Nash, he

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01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 8: says he would like to be back in the cabinet

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01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 8: at a cabinet position, and I think you know that

1598
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 8: wouldn't be a bad thing actually. But the other scenario

1599
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 8: that it lays open, of course, is is Winston the

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01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 8: octagenarian about to call it quits. Ironically, he's celebrating the

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01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 8: eightieth anniversary of the United Nations, which means it started

1602
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 8: in the very year that Winston was born.

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 11: So here he is.

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01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 8: It's appropriate that he will be addressing the United Nations

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01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,879
Speaker 8: on its birthday, and he's not long celebrated his eightieth birthday.

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 3: Listen, very quickly, we talked about Bussy yesterday and the

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01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: fact that they were doing their validatory speech, and somebody

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01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 3: text in and said, you know, despite how you may

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01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 3: feel about Bussy, it is inappropriate that Bussy had death threats.

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01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 3: Oh and it's basically hounded out of office for them.

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Speaker 8: That goes for anyone. Yeah, but you know, for this

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01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 8: man to do what he did publicly on the I said, man,

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01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 8: I should have said they to do what they did

1614
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 8: on the social media. I think he is the author

1615
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 8: of his own Oh sorry, they are the author of

1616
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 8: their own misfortune.

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01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 3: Okay, that's enough.

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01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 8: Thank god, I don't have to go on with that anymore.

1619
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Speaker 8: He's now gone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Barry, thanks very much. Barry so Senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, listen, news has just broken. You remember Murray

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01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: Deeker's Phota cowentry. It was like you remember that just

1623
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: being given permission to get rid of it. So Deeks

1624
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 3: will be a happy man this evening. We have to

1625
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: talk about Justinda's movie next six to twenty three, everything.

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Speaker 1: From SMS to the big corporates, the Business Hour with

1627
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Speaker 1: hither Duplicllen and mass for insurance investments and Kuy Safer

1628
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: and you're in good hands news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be Peter Lewis is going to be with us

1630
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 3: out of Asia just after the news. Now the Prime

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01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 3: Minister's movie is playing tomorrow at the movie houses, and

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01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 3: judging by one of our staff has just taken it

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01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 3: upon herself, Emma, to do some research, and it would

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01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: appear that the Prime Minister's movie, Jacinta ar Durn's movie

1635
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 3: is not a hit in Auckland by the looks of things.

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Speaker 3: So it's playing at the Silkiot. We just looked at

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01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 3: the Silkiota right. It's playing at the Silkiata in Iraqi.

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01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 3: There's one screening and they've only pre sold six seats

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01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 3: out of forty five seats. In Takanini they've only pre

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01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 3: sold two seats out of forty five seats. They're not

1641
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: even playing it at the Silkyotta and Pons and me

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01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 3: because they know their audience and they know yeah, no

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01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 3: want to watch that. Okay, well, let's compare it to

1644
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 3: Downtown Abbey. I mean, maybe people just don't pre buy

1645
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 3: tickets anymore for things, right, So, at Iraqi, where it's

1646
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: pre sold, this movie has pre sold. The Prime Minister

1647
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 3: has pre sold thirteen percent of the seats. Downton Abbey

1648
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 3: pre sold thirty four percent of the seats. The Roses

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01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,480
Speaker 3: pre sold seventeen percent of the seats. Over at TAKANINNY,

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01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 3: Prime Minister pre sold four point five percent of the seats,

1651
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 3: down to An Abbey nine percent, the Roses six percent.

1652
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 3: So we thought, well, maybe there's a problem in Auckland,

1653
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: Like maybe Auckland is just really still carrying a lot

1654
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 3: of a lot of resentment and psychological unhappiness about what

1655
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 3: happened in the lowdown. So we thought, let's have a

1656
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 3: look down country. Wow, that would appear to be the case. Nelson,

1657
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: they are doing one screening of Prime Minister, pre sold

1658
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 3: forty percent of the seats. Nelson's fizzing for j Cinder.

1659
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 3: Nelson is there for Cinder christ Church. They've pre sold

1660
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 3: twenty seven percent of the seats. So yeah, so yay, yay,

1661
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Speaker 3: the movie's going to do well in the South Island

1662
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 3: and not particularly well in the North Filing by the

1663
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: looks of things, and very not at all well and

1664
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 3: pond some me but they're not even showing it. Twenty

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01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 3: seven past.

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Speaker 1: Six Showbiz, mak you it makes us fall better, faster, younger.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's back, Kanye or yay or whatever. Ye I

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01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: don't even know whatever. He's been in the dog box

1669
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 3: a bit lately because he went a bit maga and

1670
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 3: that was fine, and then he tried to run for president.

1671
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 3: It was a bit weird. But then he just went

1672
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 3: off the rails completely and got banned from performing in

1673
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 3: multiple venues around the UK because he wanted to perform

1674
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 3: his new song, which uses the frail harl Hitler frase

1675
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 3: heil Hitler in the chorus and that's not okay. So

1676
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 3: while he went down that path, it turns out someone

1677
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: was filming a little bit like Clark Gayford doing the

1678
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,879
Speaker 3: old filming all the time. Nico b Lester Ross, eighteen

1679
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 3: years old, started filming Kanye, got three thousand hours of

1680
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 3: exclusive footage with the rapper. He's now edited down to

1681
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 3: a nearly two hour documentary.

1682
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Speaker 7: I'm off my mariage for five months down and I

1683
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 7: got with a spiritual connection.

1684
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 17: I'm here to take over.

1685
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: Get used to it.

1686
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: Good crystality.

1687
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm a few years ago. It's a universe. We could

1688
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: talk about that later. A vote.

1689
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 3: That's Kim. You can hear Kim Kardashians. There's gonna be

1690
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 3: some juicy stuff. It's out today in the US. The

1691
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 3: Guardian has given it four out of five stars, keeping

1692
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: it that might be more popular than Prime Minister is

1693
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 3: going to be in Ponsonby at the Salkiata News is.

1694
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Speaker 2: Next, maybe Miss.

1695
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: King if it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1696
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Speaker 2: The Business Hour with him, the DUP c Allen and

1697
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Speaker 2: Mas for.

1698
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Speaker 1: Insurance Investments and Kuye Safer and you're in good hands

1699
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Speaker 1: news talk, sa'd.

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Speaker 11: Be will right, it's about you?

1701
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 3: And what is Bill?

1702
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 20: Like?

1703
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 3: I confell you anything, Peter Lewis, it's gonna be us

1704
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 3: very shortly before I get to him, can I just

1705
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 3: tell you we've got to talk about why ABC? Like

1706
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 3: how it was that the ABC decided to cut Jimmy

1707
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 3: Kimmel's show How That All unfolded? Great piece in the

1708
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal about so run you through a very

1709
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 3: shortly twenty four away from seven and as I said,

1710
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Speaker 3: Peter Lewis, our Asia business correspondent, is with me right now,

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Speaker 3: hy Peter, Good evening, Heather. All right, So what's going

1712
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: on with the economy in China?

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01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 17: Slowing? Slowing quite a lot, in fact, because if you

1714
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 17: look at the data that came out earlier this week,

1715
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 17: retail sales and industrial production at the lowest levels now

1716
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Speaker 17: of the year. And this has been going on for

1717
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 17: three or four months, so it's not just a one off,

1718
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 17: it's not just weather related factors. There clearly is a

1719
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 17: gradual slow down. The thing that's helping the economy is

1720
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 17: actually the first half of the year was pretty good.

1721
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 17: The economy grew about five point three percent. So unless

1722
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 17: we get a really sharp slow down now in the

1723
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Speaker 17: remaining few months of the year, which threatens China's five

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Speaker 17: percent growth target, I don't think the authorities are going

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Speaker 17: to be too worried. They're not going to rush out

1726
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Speaker 17: and do lots of stimulus. The reason why we're seeing

1727
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Speaker 17: this slow down is it comes down to their old

1728
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 17: theme again. Property property carries on falling. The price of

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Speaker 17: new homes and existing homes just seems to keep on

1730
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 17: declining month after month. If you look at the data

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Speaker 17: in Beijing property prices. New home prices now down nineteen

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Speaker 17: percent from just one year ago, and that has a

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Speaker 17: big drag on overall consumer household economic sentiments because property

1734
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 17: is the biggest part of a Chinese household's assets. Sometimes

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01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 17: they have two or three properties in fact, which are

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Speaker 17: owned by sort of several generations of the same sort

1737
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Speaker 17: of family. But this is really holding back the economic

1738
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 17: growth in the mainland. What is doing well, surprisingly maybe

1739
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 17: given that there's a trade war going on with the US,

1740
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 17: is exports are holding up very well. Now they've collapsed

1741
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 17: to the US, they're down by about a third now

1742
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Speaker 17: over the past few months, but they're really growing in

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Speaker 17: other parts of the world, particularly the emerging markets of

1744
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 17: Southeast Asia, Middle East, Latin America. And this is deliberate

1745
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 17: part of Jijinping's policy to go and really move away

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Speaker 17: from being dependent upon the US and finding new sources

1747
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 17: of business, sources of growth and where they can sell

1748
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 17: Chinese goods to and that's working very well. So that

1749
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 17: is holding up the economy. If it hadn't been for exports,

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01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 17: the economy will be far worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And speaking of the relationship with the US, where

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01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 3: are we at with TikTok.

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Speaker 17: Well, Scott Bessens, who was in Madrid at the beginning

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Speaker 17: of the week meeting his Chinese counterparts. Hurley Feng, who

1755
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Speaker 17: is the Chinese Vice Premier and responsible for negotiating these

1756
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 17: trade deals, announced that a deal had been reached with TikTok. Now,

1757
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Speaker 17: you remember the bill that Joe Biden signed into law

1758
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Speaker 17: a year or so ago called for either TikTok to

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Speaker 17: be sold by byte Dance, the Chinese parent company that

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Speaker 17: owns it, to an American controlled company, or it had

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01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 17: to shut down in the US. So discussions over this

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01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 17: have been going on for a long time, and it

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Speaker 17: appears that now TikTok will be put into a US

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Speaker 17: company that's eighty percent owned by US investors like Oracle,

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01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,759
Speaker 17: and twenty percent by Chinese investors. So at first site,

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01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 17: all well and good. Looks like, you know, they've done

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Speaker 17: what they said they would do, divest the company ow

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01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 17: to byte Dance, put it into a US company. But

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Speaker 17: here's the thing. The whole thing about TikTok is its algorithm.

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Speaker 17: The algorithm is the secret source behind how TikTok works,

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01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 17: which directs people to certain videos and the US sees

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Speaker 17: the algorithm as a national security risk because it could

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Speaker 17: be used for propaganda purposes, could be used to mislead

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Speaker 17: young people in the country, influence elections, and so on.

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Speaker 17: So the law had always insisted that the algorithm is

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Speaker 17: really what needs to be put into the US company.

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Speaker 17: Now this is where it looks like it could well

1778
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 17: be another taco trade. In other words, Trump always chickens out.

1779
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Speaker 17: What it looks like according to the Chinese is that

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01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 17: they will remain keep control over the algorithm. It will

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Speaker 17: stay in Beijing, it will be owned by byte Dance,

1782
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Speaker 17: and they will license it to this American company. Now

1783
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,839
Speaker 17: that is very different. A licensing agreement is very different

1784
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 17: from it being divested and sold to the American company,

1785
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 17: because it means the Chinese company Byte Dance, will still

1786
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 17: retain control over the algorithm. So it looks like once

1787
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 17: again this could be another win for China, and how

1788
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 17: it's being portrayed by Scott Bessant is not quite what

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01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 17: was initially envisaged when the law was signed into effects

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Speaker 17: by Joe Biden. Will learn more today because Eujinping and

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump are going to speak about it on the

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Speaker 17: phone and said if they can agree the terms of

1793
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 17: this service sale fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Will keep an eye out for that. Peter, as always,

1795
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Speaker 3: thank you very much and have yourself a lovely weekend.

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Speaker 3: That's Peter Lewis, our Asia Business correspondent, eighteen away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Together do for c Allen.

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Speaker 3: Now, apparently the reason that ABC cut the Jimmy Kimmel

1799
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 3: Show was because he was going to go on it again,

1800
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 3: because of course it's a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday show.

1801
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 3: He was going to go on and again and talk

1802
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 3: about the Charlie Kirk comments again, and the bosses thought

1803
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 3: he was going to make it worse. So this is

1804
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,919
Speaker 3: according to the Wall Street Journal. He made the comments

1805
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Speaker 3: on the Monday show, and then a couple of days later,

1806
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Speaker 3: the Federal Communications Commission chairman, who's Brendan Carr, and you

1807
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: know you're aware of this, this is none of this

1808
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 3: is news. He took a crack at Jimmy Kimmel for

1809
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 3: what he'd said and then suggested that the FCC could

1810
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 3: take action against the broadcast licenses of ABC owned stations. Now,

1811
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 3: that freaked out the advertisers and affiliates who started calling

1812
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 3: ABC and they were worried about it. And then two broadcasts,

1813
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 3: and this is where it starts to go really pair

1814
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 3: shape for Jimmy Kemmel. Two broadcasting companies, Sinclair and Next Star,

1815
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 3: they get involved. Between them, they they own more than

1816
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 3: sixty local ABC stations. The executives of those two companies

1817
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 3: call ABC. They say, because of Jimmy of cars comments,

1818
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 3: Brendan Carr's comments at the FCC, they would definitely stop

1819
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 3: taking the Jimmy Kimmel show because, as discussed earlier by

1820
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kurzley, they've got they need the FCC on board

1821
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 3: with him. Right then on Wednesday, on Wednesday, makes the comments.

1822
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Speaker 3: On Monday, on Wednesday, before the show, Dana Walden, the

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01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 3: co chair of Disney, which owns ABC, has a meeting

1824
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 3: with Jimmy Kimmel, and in that meeting, Kimmel says he's

1825
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: going to talk about the car comments on the show

1826
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: that night. He's planning to say that his words were

1827
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 3: being purposefully twisted by some members of MAGA. So Dana

1828
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 3: goes it was like, oh, hell, doubling down is never

1829
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,480
Speaker 3: a good idea. She goes away, she speaks to other executives.

1830
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 3: They think about it. They think, now this is going

1831
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,839
Speaker 3: to make the whole situation worse. So they also discussed

1832
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 3: the staff safety. There have been threatening emails center to

1833
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,879
Speaker 3: staff on the show that have been received after Carr's comments,

1834
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 3: and some of the personal information has been posted online

1835
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. So then she calls in the

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01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: chief executive, Bob Iger, and between the two of them,

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01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 3: this is Dana and Bob. Between the two of them,

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01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 3: they decide to temporarily take Jimmy Kimmel Live off the air,

1839
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 3: and then she informs Jimmy Kimmel of the decision, and

1840
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 3: it's Gomberger from that point. As a result, they may

1841
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 3: now have to refund advertising because advertisers have bought advertising

1842
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 3: around has show. And also this big thing, this big extravaganza.

1843
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 3: He was going to do it some later date, and

1844
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,879
Speaker 3: that is how the whole thing erupted. I do wonder

1845
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: this question is not answered, but you have to wonder

1846
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 3: if he hadn't wanted to double down, would he have

1847
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 3: been safe sixteen away from seven, encroaching.

1848
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 2: The numbers and getting the results.

1849
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 1: It's Heather due for Sea Allen with the Business Hour,

1850
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,799
Speaker 1: and Maz for insurance Investments and Kiwie Safer.

1851
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 2: You're in good hands. News Talk said, be high here.

1852
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 3: There is ratings. This is Jimmy Kimmel. His ratings were dropping.

1853
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 3: This was just convenience to get rid of rid of him.

1854
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 3: Perhaps so, Ben, and you're not the first person to

1855
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 3: say that. Thirteen away from seven Gavin Gray UK correspondents

1856
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,799
Speaker 3: with US Hello, Gevin, either have So the court failed

1857
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 3: in its bit to stop the sky getting flown out.

1858
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 20: Yes, and I think this court ruling will be extremely

1859
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 20: good news for the government. Well, it is very good

1860
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 20: news for the government, but I think it's also going

1861
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 20: to have wide ranging ramifications. So the government this week

1862
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 20: here in the UK has begun using its one in,

1863
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 20: one out deal with France. So what it means is

1864
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 20: people who have arrived here illegally will be selected and

1865
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 20: flown back to France where they came across from a

1866
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 20: small boat. But in return, the UK will accept somebody

1867
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 20: subject to criminal conviction checks that they haven't got any

1868
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 20: but also somebody that has not been caught trying to

1869
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 20: come across the channel before illegally. In other words, this

1870
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 20: is all about the terrence. Now, the first person went

1871
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 20: yesterday bizarrely an Indian national. I say that because the

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01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 20: UK could have just kicked him out and sent him

1873
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Speaker 20: back to.

1874
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 6: India anyway, rather than using this deal.

1875
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,839
Speaker 20: Now, however, an error tro man has gone across this morning.

1876
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 20: And that's an important one because right at the eleventh

1877
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 20: hour he was due to be deported and then was

1878
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:11,839
Speaker 20: told and then rather his legal team said, oh, actually

1879
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 20: we think he might have been trafficked human traffic. Now

1880
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 20: that's a different ballgame altogether. His deportation was suspended. But

1881
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 20: the judges, no, I come back and said, look, France

1882
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,919
Speaker 20: is a safe country. You can carry on your claims

1883
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 20: of being human traffic over there.

1884
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 6: You don't have to be here for it. So I

1885
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 6: am sending you abroad.

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Speaker 20: And I think if that hadn't been the case, the

1887
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 20: ruling had gone the other way, many many other people

1888
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,879
Speaker 20: who were being detained would simply have claimed human trafficking.

1889
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, perhaps now so Trump. Trump's admitted he didn't want

1890
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 3: Sadik Khan at the banquet.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that should be of no surprise. The pair have

1892
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 20: had an ongoing spat for some time. It's the latest

1893
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 20: war of words to the feud, with Trump in twenty nineteen,

1894
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 20: calling Sadik Khan Sir Sadi Khan, the mayor of London

1895
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 20: a stone cold loser, Sir Sadiq called Donald Trump, accusing

1896
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,440
Speaker 20: him of stirring up far right politics.

1897
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 2: Now.

1898
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 20: Trump then said the mayor's governing of London was a

1899
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 20: disaster on immigration, and so it goes on anyway. On

1900
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 20: the flight back after a very successful state visit here

1901
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 20: in the UK, Donald Trump told reporters on Air Force One.

1902
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 20: On the flight, I'm cidecum wanted to come to the

1903
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 20: state banquet, but I said no and he didn't come.

1904
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 20: But actually we're hearing from Sadiq's office that of the

1905
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 20: off the record, he didn't seek to be invited. He

1906
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 20: wasn't invited. He didn't want to be invited. So take

1907
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 20: what you get from that. But either way, I think

1908
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 20: this government will be very pleased how the two day

1909
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 20: state visit went, and very pleased that Donald Trump remained

1910
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 20: remarkably on message for the two days.

1911
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Speaker 3: Kevin, what do you reckon? The scientific evidence is that

1912
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 3: the mccrons are going to present to court.

1913
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 20: Oh, this is a this is one from the bizarre

1914
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 20: but true fact file. So Emmanuel Matt Cron and his

1915
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 20: wife are going to court over a right wing American

1916
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 20: influencer called Candace Owens. She has claimed for a long

1917
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 20: time that Bridget Macron, the first Lady of France, was

1918
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 20: born a male.

1919
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,520
Speaker 6: It's a rumor that's been going round and around.

1920
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 20: On the internet, along with allegations that she might be

1921
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 20: some kind of an ape as well. I mean the

1922
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 20: stuff you get on these social media channels anyway. So

1923
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 20: they've decided that they are going to take her to court,

1924
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,799
Speaker 20: and now they say they're going to send photographic evidence

1925
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 20: as well as some scientific evidence no doubt about hormone levels,

1926
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 20: things like that to the litigators in order to say, look,

1927
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 20: you need to apologize, and by the way, we are

1928
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 20: demanding quite some compensation.

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Speaker 6: It is an extraordinary tale.

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Speaker 20: I can't think of any other senior politicians or world

1931
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 20: leaders or their wives who have sent photos to try

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01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,520
Speaker 20: and prove through a man or a woman as unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Gavin, thank you very much. Enjoy your weekend. Gavin Gray,

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent. By the way, staying in the UK, Jeremy

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Speaker 3: Corbyn's new party is already falling apart, says, of course

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Speaker 3: set the thing up with Zara Sultana. They are having

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Speaker 3: the two of them are having a falling out. She's

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Speaker 3: accused Jeremy Corbyn of running a sexist boys club. They're

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Speaker 3: fighting about an email that was sent out to supporters,

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Speaker 3: and the emails were sent out said you know you

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Speaker 3: can sign up fifty five pounds per year or five

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Speaker 3: pounds per month or whatever. Jeremy Corbyn then came out

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Speaker 3: and said the email was unauthorized, should be ignored by

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Speaker 3: all supporters. Legal advice is being taken. Zara Sultana then

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Speaker 3: confirms she's launched the whole thing without permission after being

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Speaker 3: frozen out of official accounts. So that's not going well,

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Speaker 3: is it? Eight away from seven?

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tioplasy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk zb Hey.

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Speaker 3: Listen before I go, did you know the Wiggles are

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Speaker 3: having a court fight. It sounds it sounds like it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not. The Wiggles are not what you expect the

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Speaker 3: Wiggles are. So this is the court. We know that

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Speaker 3: the lawsuit is happening because the lawsuit's being brought by

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Speaker 3: Luke O'Neill who's the former chief executive, but we didn't

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Speaker 3: know any of the details of it. And the lawsuits

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Speaker 3: against Anthony Ho's the Blue Wiggle because it appears Anthony

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Speaker 3: fired Luke and the reason that Anthony fired lucas because

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Speaker 3: Luke complained about Anthony making financial decisions that benefited his

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Speaker 3: family members. He says he was undermined by the Blue

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Speaker 3: Wiggle in a meeting this year in front of more

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Speaker 3: than a dozen staff. He says he was excluded from

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Speaker 3: a key meeting with Kmart over toy sales after he

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Speaker 3: made complaints to the Blue Wiggle and about the Blue Wiggle,

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Speaker 3: and then he was sacked as the chief executive and

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Speaker 3: late May this year, he wants a payment of a

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Speaker 3: bonus that he claims he is owed, in addition to

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Speaker 3: compensation and penalties for alleged contraventions of legal protections and

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Anyway, what happened the family thing? I

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Speaker 3: was like, what's blue Wiggle being doing with the family? Well,

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Speaker 3: apparently the Blue Wiggle was determined to implement a special

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Speaker 3: bonus planned for a friend as well as for his

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Speaker 3: daughter's boyfriend. The daughter is a wiggle as well. Lucier Lucier,

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Speaker 3: Luchier lu Chier. Now I know you're going Ho's lu Chier,

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Speaker 3: but if that, but that's because you're not a parent

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Speaker 3: of a toddler. If you're a parent of a toddler,

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Speaker 3: you know exactly who lu Chier is. And I did

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Speaker 3: not know that lu Chier was the Blue Wiggles daughter.

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Speaker 3: So you learned something new every day. Libby, it's the Wiggles.

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Speaker 18: No, I'm kidding, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I would be That would completely

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Speaker 3: not phase me. I would have been like, oh, yep,

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Speaker 3: that's a normal day.

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Speaker 18: Absolutely, it's actually this is one of my favorite artists, Ray,

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Speaker 18: who was just released a brand new song, which we

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Speaker 18: didn't see coming because she told us last year that

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Speaker 18: she does things old school, writes everything down pen and paper,

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Speaker 18: all her new music, and all of those notebooks got stolen,

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Speaker 18: so we were like, oh, we won't see that new

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Speaker 18: music for a while. But here it is. She's managed

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Speaker 18: to remember some of the songs, I guess. And this

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Speaker 18: song is called Where's My Husband?

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Speaker 20: Go On?

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Speaker 3: Then do a little company? What kind of music is

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Speaker 3: a slippy I'd slay R and B.

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Speaker 23: Jazzy surprises me that you're into R and B.

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Speaker 3: I was expecting you to be into sort of like Irish.

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Speaker 3: I don't know those boys those up those boys who

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Speaker 3: play with their little Irish fiddle. What do they call

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Speaker 3: some munthard and sons? Oh, I'll picture as a month

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Speaker 3: heards and sons like a folksy.

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Speaker 18: Huh, I'm being type cast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you heard the show? Everybody's typecast, including me. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: here we go Ho new Libby likes R and B

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Speaker 3: enjoy it. We'll see you again, said.

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Speaker 2: Your husband is coming.

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Speaker 1: News Talk SETB from four pm weekdays, or follow the

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