1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Marilyn Waring, remember the name. Once an activist, always an activist, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: took it upon herself to form her own select committee, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, and she and a bunch of 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: other MPs and interested parties open their doors for submissions 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: on pay equity and the changes the government made that 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: they don't like. Now. When doors like that are opened, 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: people of like minds tend to wander through, and they 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: sit around all agreeing with each other about how bad 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: things are. The Ensuing Report, which came out yesterday, tells 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: you exactly what you thought it might. Now. The problem 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: with pay equity is it's an unsolvable problem unless you 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: take on a North Korea Cuba type view of the 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: world and simply get the government to make all the rules. 14 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: The simple tooth of it is, different jobs have different values. 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Another truths Some women choose work that doesn't pay as 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: much as other work men do as well, but not 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: as much. Some of the work that doesn't pay as 18 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: much as predominantly done by women. The most famous case 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: involved a woman called Bartlet and the aged care sector. 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Rightly or wrongly, jobs of compassion and care tend to 21 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: be done by females. I would argue that's largely because 22 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: they tend to be nicer people overall, But that would 23 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: probably lead to a charge of me being sexist, which 24 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: I not. What I am is a realist and you 25 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: can see the issue. Should age care workers be paid more? Probably? 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: But if they were, who would fit that bill? Well, 27 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: the people paying the age care bills obviously. Could we 28 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: artificially boost their pay well, that is where we got 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: into dreadful trouble. They ended up comparing aged care workers 30 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: with mechanics and got a mass of pay rise troublers. 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: It was always false. Mechanics are not age care workers 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: anymore than air stewards are. You can look for commonalities, 33 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: twist logic all you want, but you either artificially mess 34 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,279 Speaker 1: with it or you let the market be the market. 35 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Most jobs have a rationale as to why they pay 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: what they do, and at all times, all jobs are 37 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: open to all people, depending on desire and skill. So 38 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: essentially Marilyn and her mates have wasted their time. Logic wins, 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: the market wins. If you want more money, do a 40 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: job that pays more, male or female. For more from 41 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks that'd 42 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio