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Speaker 1: Australia reckons they've fixed vaping. A new study has found

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Speaker 1: the Aussies may have turned a corner after years of

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Speaker 1: rapid growth, with new research showing take up could have

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Speaker 1: peaked among teenagers and high school aged children. Becky Freeman

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Speaker 1: was the lead investigator of the study that looked into

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Speaker 1: the vaping trends and Australian she's with me now, Hi, Becky, Hi,

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Speaker 1: how are you going? Very well? Thank you? Does this

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Speaker 1: mean do these numbers mean you've turned a corner? You

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Speaker 1: passed peak vape for young people in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's pretty good news compared to a few

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Speaker 2: years ago. Vaping rates are down amongst teenagers. Obviously, it's still,

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Speaker 2: you know, quite worrying from a public health point of

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Speaker 2: view that fifteen percent of teens are still vaping, But

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Speaker 2: it does seem like the peak rates are behind.

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Speaker 1: Us, and the under fifteen year olds in particular have

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Speaker 1: dropped quite markedly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. We're really pleased to see that. You know,

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Speaker 2: our youngest teens are telling us that, you know, vaping

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Speaker 2: is no longer the norm amongst their friends. They're not

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Speaker 2: as curious about it as they were before, and that

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Speaker 2: you know those market messages that vaping was, you know,

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Speaker 2: harmless and fun and something you could do it on

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Speaker 2: weekends and parties. Those messages aren't getting through nearly as

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Speaker 2: strongly as they used to.

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Speaker 1: So is it the coll factor or the lack of

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Speaker 1: a call factor, or is it the restrictions that have

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Speaker 1: been put in place.

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Speaker 2: Look, and this is the thing with public health. You know,

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Speaker 2: people always ask, what's the one secret we can you know,

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Speaker 2: do here to make this all go away? And it's like, no,

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Speaker 2: we've got to do it all. It's the legislation, it's

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Speaker 2: the campaigns, it's the messaging, it's shutting down the advertising,

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Speaker 2: it's all those things working together. You have to do everything.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the disposable vipes, are they quite the

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Speaker 1: trendy or what would they in vogue with young people?

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Speaker 1: Is getting rid of those key or even you know,

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Speaker 1: having an impact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it is the disposable vapes that were the problem.

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Speaker 2: Young people were not using the refillable devices and things

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Speaker 2: like this. It was the cheap disposable it's brightly colored,

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Speaker 2: full of flavors, and those are no longer allowed to

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Speaker 2: be sold at all, even in pharmacies in Australia, they're

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Speaker 2: completely bound.

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Speaker 1: So what if you want to get your hands on

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Speaker 1: a vape, like as an adult in Australia, can you

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Speaker 1: just walk into a da area or a service station.

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Speaker 2: No. No, you need to legally buy one. You need

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Speaker 2: to go to a pharmacy, and in some states you

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Speaker 2: require a prescription and in some seats you can just

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Speaker 2: buy them over the counter.

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Speaker 1: Do you have lots more people smoking cigarettes in Australia

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Speaker 1: because of that?

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Speaker 2: No, No, absolutely not. We have less than ten percent

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Speaker 2: of the population there smoking in Australia.

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Speaker 1: All right, Becky, appreciate your time. Becky Freeman, professor of

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Speaker 1: public health behind the study. For more from Hither Duplessy

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