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Speaker 1: Heather duper Cela nine ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Max Whitehead about it, because

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Speaker 1: I think Max is of a different well, Max is

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Speaker 1: certainly of the view if I'm led to believe correctly

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Speaker 1: that this person may in fact get the chop. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll have a chat about that after five. Now we

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Speaker 1: have got pedigree in this country, haven't we. When it

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Speaker 1: comes to great middle distance Runner's got Peter Small, a Snell,

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Speaker 1: John Walker, Nick Willis, But now we have Sam Ruth

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Speaker 1: as well, who could potentially surpass them all. He's only

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Speaker 1: sixteen years old. He's just run the fastest mile by

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Speaker 1: a New Zealander and it's put him absolutely in the

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Speaker 1: sites or put Glasgow Commonwealth Games in his sights. And

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Speaker 1: he told my costing this morning, he reckons he's still

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Speaker 1: got plenty to grow.

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Speaker 2: I'm only like seventy k's a week right now right now,

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Speaker 2: which might sound like quite a bit, but all the

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Speaker 2: top guys doing like one thirty one forty, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've got like fifty sixty more k's left in the

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Speaker 2: bank just to gain some more strength.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you're wondering how on earth it is that

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Speaker 1: a sixteen year old boy from New Zealand is such

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Speaker 1: a good runner. Well, it may in fact be his jeans.

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Speaker 1: His granddad Triva writers with us. Now, Hi driver, Hello there.

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Speaker 3: Ever, now I.

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Speaker 1: Understand you're a pretty good running yourself, are.

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Speaker 3: You well it used to be years ago? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well you went into the were you into the marathons?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I was a marathon runner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And go on, then tell us your greatest achievement.

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Speaker 3: I've my first debut marathon was the world record for

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Speaker 3: the person making his debut over the distance. And the

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Speaker 3: next marathon, I've got a silver medal in the European Championships,

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Speaker 3: and I finished thirty in London in the nineteen eighty one,

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Speaker 3: I finished thirty New York in nineteen seventy eight, and

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Speaker 3: I finished fifth in New York in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's not bad.

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Speaker 3: I've been around the wee bit. But I'm now nearly

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Speaker 3: eighty years old, so I'm an old fort part.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just you as a triv because then

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Speaker 1: you married a runner as well, and she's not half bad.

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Speaker 3: She's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: What's her greatest achievement?

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Speaker 3: Want to come off? Gold medal in nineteen seventy and

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Speaker 3: she made the Olympic finally seventy two, and that was

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Speaker 3: when the Eastern Blocks was taking drugs, I believe it

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Speaker 3: or not. And in nineteen seventy two the time that

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Speaker 3: she did was a British rerek. Over about twenty odd years,

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Speaker 3: I think it was to me like that great.

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Speaker 1: Now, So do you guys attribute his ability as a

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Speaker 1: runner to basically the genetics?

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Speaker 3: No, no, them. That might be part of it, only

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Speaker 3: a small part. I put it down to dedication, talent

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Speaker 3: and a good coach and a good manager.

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Speaker 1: Is he a dedicated boy?

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Speaker 3: Is he definitely dedicated? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you'd have to be to be

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Speaker 1: that good. What about you? Just because I'm fascinated, I'm

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Speaker 1: fascinated by the idea actually that this may infect well,

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Speaker 1: it's clearly it is partly genetics, right, what about your kids?

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Speaker 1: Has anybody else in the family shown in the ability

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Speaker 1: when it comes to running?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Ben's mother ran for New Zealand at the

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Speaker 3: cross country. Yeah, she ran about six times.

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Speaker 1: You tell me it's not genetics. I mean, you people

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Speaker 1: are freaks.

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Speaker 3: Oh, genetics plays a small part. Yeah, but you can't

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Speaker 3: take the what Sam's done off him because he's so talented.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm told because we had a check to Rosemary

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Speaker 1: on the phone, and I'm told that Rosemary's view is

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Speaker 1: that it's just it's just running like there's more to life.

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that what she's she's telling him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's her attitude. Yeah, yeah, Wow, she likes the

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Speaker 3: quiet life. She don't like any any sort of fame

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Speaker 3: or anything.

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Speaker 1: Well, he might be bringing fame your way because he's

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Speaker 1: just so very good, isn't he. Your heart must be

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Speaker 1: so proud.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are so proud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he must just be bursting with pride. Now

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Speaker 1: did you hear that he almost didn't get there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: His father had to mess around and arrange all the

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Speaker 3: flights because originally they were flying from Auckland to New

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Speaker 3: York on the Monday of last week, and the flights

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Speaker 3: was canceled because it was snowbound in New York, so

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Speaker 3: there was no flights going. So Beny's father is his manager,

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Speaker 3: if you like, did all the arrange and it flew

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Speaker 3: via San Francisco the next day and spent the night

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Speaker 3: in San Francisco and then flew up to Boston and

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Speaker 3: I think arrived in Boston about seventy two hours for

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Speaker 3: his race, so it had a bit of a job

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Speaker 3: to get there. But yeah, Annuel Zelan came to the party.

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Speaker 3: They looked after him.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good to hear. Now listen if he gets

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Speaker 1: if he gets selected for Glasgow, are you going to go?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I certainly would do yet.

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Speaker 1: Yep, because am I picking up there a little an

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Speaker 1: accent of Scottish accent?

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Speaker 3: No? No, I'm I'm Yorkshire.

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Speaker 1: Oh same Sam. Your wife is Scottish though.

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Speaker 3: Isn't she? No? No, she was born in Zealand ran

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Speaker 3: for scott Scotland. The father was Scottish. She went, she

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Speaker 3: went to England when she was fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll definitely have to go. And said, hey, thank you, Triva,

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Speaker 1: you've been wonderful, look after yourself and appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: That's Triva right. Who is Sam Ruth's granddad here? So

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Speaker 1: there's I can tell you right now. Anyhow, I looked

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Speaker 1: at Sam and I thought cool, Could I make my

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Speaker 1: boy runner? I thought, nap. After talking to Trevor, absolutely

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Speaker 1: nothing in the genetics. Here for more from Hither Duplessy

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