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Speaker 2: Good, Hello, are you great New Zealanders, And welcome to

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Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Full Show Podcast number one forty four

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Speaker 2: for Thursday, the twelfth of June twenty twenty five. Boy boy,

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Speaker 2: that last topic when we got into the musical geniusis

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Speaker 2: on the back of Brian Wilson passing away. That could

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Speaker 2: have gone for three hours, thousands and thousands of texts.

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Speaker 2: It was a little up. It was an onslaught. It

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Speaker 2: was hard to deal with that. It was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: trying to stand up in a when a damn breaks

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Speaker 2: and sort of run that. And also my headphones blow up,

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Speaker 2: which made it very very difficult. But I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to complain. I'm not going to play. It was a

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Speaker 2: great chat. The booze chat was good and I really really,

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Speaker 2: really really really enjoyed our chat about gondolas and queensdown.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the gondola chat was amazing.

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Speaker 3: And also there was a lot of chat about a

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Speaker 3: particular place somewhere in the in the South Island, and

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Speaker 3: suspicion is that they they enjoy putting the keys in

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Speaker 3: the wall.

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Speaker 2: There's this futuristic town that's brewing that's a cross between Pleasantville,

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Speaker 2: getteka Ohn yep and just a swingers party.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So download, subscribe, give us a review, Tell your

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News

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Speaker 1: Talk said they.

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Speaker 3: Welcome and to Thursday show. I hope you're doing fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Great to have your company has always ghetto.

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Speaker 2: Matt's Hey, I got an email yesterday, Tyler yep from

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Speaker 2: a woman calling me a misogynist for our chat yesterday.

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Speaker 2: How does she I know? She was furious about a

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Speaker 2: number of things about our chat, and I think she

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Speaker 2: was blaming me for some of the calls non things

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Speaker 2: I said. I just wanted to say, it's all the

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Speaker 2: wives and women and what's that line from the BC

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Speaker 2: Boys songs? Anyway, I was brought up with three sisters

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Speaker 2: and I dedicated my whole book to my mum. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's on the front page. Right there. I love you

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Speaker 2: women and respect women more so than any given woman

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Speaker 2: would be better co host than you, Tyler, is what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: She says that all the time, flks all the time,

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Speaker 3: and that's my feelings.

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Speaker 2: And I know that's faint praise for women, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's almost, it's almost. I just wanted to say that

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Speaker 2: I am so far from misogynist. Yeah, absolutely massive fan

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Speaker 2: of women. Yeah. Look, there's no way my lovely sisters

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Speaker 3: And just quickly on emails, I had an email used

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Speaker 3: to it as well from a Gail. I haven't responded

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Speaker 3: to yet Gail, but I will. But she she called

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Speaker 3: me up in my pronunciation of women. She got very

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Speaker 3: very shortly on email. But Gail, if you're listening, I

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Speaker 3: Swimming swim and women swim, and women swimm and women

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Speaker 3: right to today's show. It is a doozy after three

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Speaker 3: o'clock sad news for a lot of music fans around

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Speaker 3: the world. Brian Wilson, the founder and principal creative force

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Speaker 3: eighty two.

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Speaker 2: No doubt he was a genius. The Pet Sounds album

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Speaker 2: is phenomenal. He had his troubles. I think his genius. Actually,

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Speaker 2: you know, he had the gift in the Curse. No doubt

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Speaker 2: he's a genius. But is he the greatest musical genius

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Speaker 2: of all time? And if not, who That's the question

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that after two o'clock, moving south wine,

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Speaker 3: North Islanders are upping sticks and droves. This is according

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I was born in the South. Cheese

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Speaker 2: and you still love christ Jurch. You moved up because

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Speaker 2: and not in christ Church, so you had to move up.

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Speaker 2: But you're so sweety, You've been so sweety sweaty.

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Speaker 3: I went from a hard man and christ Church battling

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Alakuni is another one. But that is going to

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Speaker 3: be a great chat after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so police and hospitality groups argue off license alcohol

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Speaker 2: is disproportionately linked to harmful drinking, especially in homes. Restaurants

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Speaker 2: less tax because they do less damage. Yeah, I would,

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Speaker 2: be of eighty four percent was consumed at bars and

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Speaker 3: But keen to hear from you, oh, eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: ask why are we why is it excise tax? Why

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Speaker 2: it seems like a very complicated way to go about.

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Speaker 3: That went under the radar, didn't that's so so coming

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Speaker 3: up we are going to have a chat to Sam McKinnon.

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Speaker 3: He is the head of communications at Hospitality in z

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Speaker 3: We're really keen to get their thoughts, but also we've

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Speaker 3: to get your thoughts on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with me that we want people drinking

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Speaker 2: And if that, if so, how should we do it?

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

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Speaker 3: Used talks that'd be very good afternoons, say, police and

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Speaker 3: publicans are arguing for price controls at off license and

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Speaker 3: by Sam McKinnon. He has head of Communications at Hospitality

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. Sam, very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the show, Matt and Tyler, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Let's go right back to the basics. How is excise

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Speaker 5: It's charged on the production of each unit, So it

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Speaker 5: you're paying paying a trunk of excise tax tax on

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Speaker 2: Well how does that work?

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Speaker 2: Because some alcohols manufactured in New Zealand and some of

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Speaker 2: it's imported into the country. An excise tax seems to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it is excise taxes administered by the

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Speaker 5: Customs Customs in New Zealand, and I guess it's probably a

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Speaker 8: Anominally given that.

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Speaker 2: So if you manufacture that alcohol in New Zealand, you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there's some exemptions. You probably testing my knowledge

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Speaker 5: exactly on the Customs Customs process works, but you know

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Speaker 5: there are some exemptions to those rules. But buy and

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Speaker 9: In New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: As the excise taxes collected by customs.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is obviously a leading question, Sam, But what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hospitality in New Zealand. You know, we feel that

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Speaker 5: well run, licensed premises are the safest place to consume alcohol.

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Speaker 5: So in our view, if you're drinking at a pub.

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Speaker 5: We're looking after point of consumption as well as point

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Speaker 5: of sale. The opportunity for harm to occur as much lower.

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Speaker 2: So what would hospitality and New Zealand like to see

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Speaker 2: happen to move the balance from eighty four percent of

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Speaker 2: and move that more towards people drinking in bars and restaurants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I sent, there's some opportunity to look at the

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Speaker 5: rules around excise tax and the amount that's paid in

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Speaker 5: the on premise environment across beer, wine and spirits. You know,

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Speaker 5: the annual increase on excise tax since twenty twenty one

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Speaker 5: to twenty twenty four, there was a nine ten percent

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Speaker 5: increase in excise tax. So when you look at the

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Speaker 5: cost of a KEG, forty seven percent of that prices

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Speaker 5: tax when you're including GST.

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Speaker 5: So looking at how you can how you can change

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Speaker 5: some of those parameters, which certainly improves the costings for

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Speaker 5: some of that cost on and encourage some on premise consumption.

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Speaker 3: Are we an outlier sam to other jurisdictions around the

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Speaker 2: And finally, before you go, when we talk about the

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Speaker 2: Sam, great to chat, Thank you very much for coming on.

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Speaker 3: That is Sam mcinnon, head of Communications at Hospitality in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. So what do you say eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: Out of bare minimum. I think the lowering the XOS tax,

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. Love your thoughts on this one. It's twenty

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Speaker 1: St entity the make Husking Breakfast, Jimmy Carmy is coming back.

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Speaker 2: Then is called Laughs Funny and Jimmy carras whethers do

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Speaker 10: I mean, look, this is shows.

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Speaker 11: There'll be people listening to this with proper jobs in

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Speaker 11: a shift. There'll be people digging ditches with some headphones

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Speaker 11: in going. Oh he stands up? Does he stands up

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Speaker 6: Oh? Is there a go fund me?

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Speaker 11: Can we help this tall preacher? It's like my issue

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Speaker 11: with life is work is more fun than fun. Like

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Speaker 11: I'm finn home, I don't come out and.

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Speaker 12: Do a show.

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Speaker 11: It's such a joyful thing, and so much of it

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow at six am, the mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Baby's Real Estate News Talk ZIBB. The interview with Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Carr on on Breakfast this Morning was so good. Yeah, God,

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Speaker 2: he's a great man. It's like a good blokey doesn't.

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Speaker 2: They absolutely recommend his book. So he's a comedian, he's

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I saw him on a podcast where he got pretty

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Speaker 2: The book Before and After Laughter, Yeah, four and After Laughter, Budkay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very smart man and very very funny and looking

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Speaker 3: It should the cost of booze in a bar, restaurant, cafe,

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Sam, if the balance was moved away

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so seventy bucks.

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Speaker 13: And you put that into your cost factor when you're

441
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Speaker 13: going out, you're like, oh, gosh, I'm already going to

442
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Speaker 13: send the seventy eighty dollars already. Yes, I can probably

443
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Speaker 13: only spend the other fifty sixty dollars. It's a lot

444
00:21:53,293 --> 00:21:55,053
Speaker 13: of money just for one night out to have a

445
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Speaker 13: few drinks.

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you for your call, Sam. It is

447
00:21:58,773 --> 00:22:01,493
Speaker 2: a lot better in big cities with Ubert though. Now, yeah,

448
00:22:01,493 --> 00:22:05,253
Speaker 2: I mean it's reasonably cheap. But yeah, I mean I

449
00:22:05,253 --> 00:22:07,933
Speaker 2: think it's fantastic the idea of people going around barbecues

450
00:22:07,933 --> 00:22:10,293
Speaker 2: in their back guard and having a few drinks. Absolutely,

451
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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't personally, and this might be controversial, I'm

452
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Speaker 2: not saying increase the excise tax on off licenses, which

453
00:22:18,053 --> 00:22:20,573
Speaker 2: is opposed to what the police police are saying. I

454
00:22:20,613 --> 00:22:22,813
Speaker 2: would say leave that the same and just lower it

455
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Speaker 2: on on the alcohol that goes into bars and restaurants,

456
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Speaker 2: so the bars and restaurants can employ people, build stuff,

457
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Speaker 2: and you know, you've got these responsible places where people

458
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Speaker 2: are looked after when they're there. So I like a

459
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Speaker 2: balance to move away from it. But yeah, absolutely, I

460
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Speaker 2: totally see what Sam's saying there that you know, if

461
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Speaker 2: you've got young kids, it's you know, it's harder to

462
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Speaker 2: go out, and nothing wrong with them finding people around

463
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Speaker 2: your house. Yeah, but I do agree with you.

464
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Speaker 3: I mean, that price for transport that's already priced in,

465
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Speaker 3: and I suppose my point poorly made was I'd far

466
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Speaker 3: prefer to spend more of that money in the actual

467
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Speaker 3: bars and restaurants. But because I'm already spending seventy dollars

468
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Speaker 3: getting to and from home. That's money I'm not spending

469
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Speaker 3: in the bars. But if it's a lot cheaper to

470
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Speaker 3: buy drinks, than clearly I am going to be spending

471
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Speaker 3: more money in supporting those hospitality venues.

472
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Speaker 2: Well, here we go this Texas guys. He wants more

473
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Speaker 2: people in restaurants and bars right now. Times are tough.

474
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Speaker 2: I pay twenty three dollars for twelve beers which will

475
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Speaker 2: last a week. If I go to a bar, it's

476
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Speaker 2: ten dollars a bottle. Well, you got a cheaper bars

477
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Speaker 2: than Ida, that's his answer there, one hundred and twenty

478
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Speaker 2: three dollars a box. Well, that's what we're saying. We're

479
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Speaker 2: saying that it's it's unfairly weighted towards buying alcohol offline systems,

480
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Speaker 2: off licenses and supermarkets compared to bars and restaurants that

481
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Speaker 2: do more good in the community.

482
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Speaker 3: Exactly, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

483
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Speaker 3: of coal headlines coming up.

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Speaker 15: with more than fourteen thousand people behind bars by twenty

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Ray Lean.

505
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Speaker 3: So we're talking about the price of alcohol at offline

506
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Speaker 3: versus on licenses off licenses, stores, your supermarkets, on licenses, bars,

507
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Speaker 3: restaurants and cafes, et cetera. There has been a growing

508
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Speaker 3: call for off licensed premises to have an increase in

509
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Speaker 3: the price of alcohol and bars and restaurants take the

510
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Speaker 3: text off completely.

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Speaker 2: That is your Yeah. No one else is calling for that,

512
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Speaker 2: only I'm calling for that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Someone says, I agree with Matt, but don't get behind

515
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Speaker 2: a wheel. Absolutely, one hundred percent. Yeah, I mean that

516
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Speaker 2: is Hi, guys, are the damage done? The damage done

517
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Speaker 2: would change as many of those drinking out would be

518
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Speaker 2: tempted to drive home. Thanks Brett. I'm not tempted to

519
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Speaker 2: drive home when I'm drinking out. I think, I mean,

520
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Speaker 2: I think we're getting the message through not to drink drive,

521
00:25:44,133 --> 00:25:49,213
Speaker 2: an't we? I mean, yeah, absolutely slam people that drink

522
00:25:49,293 --> 00:25:53,333
Speaker 2: drive and to get home. Absolutely, ye, absolutely, But I

523
00:25:53,373 --> 00:25:55,812
Speaker 2: think people going out and look, the thing is that

524
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Speaker 2: people aren't always going out to get hammered. People go

525
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Speaker 2: to a restaurant and have a glass of wine. Yeah, right,

526
00:26:03,253 --> 00:26:08,093
Speaker 2: and that should I just don't think that. Eighty four

527
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Speaker 2: My point is eighty four percent of it is drunk

528
00:26:10,733 --> 00:26:14,573
Speaker 2: off off licenses, right, we want people drinking I personally

529
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Speaker 2: want people drinking at bars because it hires people, and

530
00:26:17,933 --> 00:26:20,893
Speaker 2: there's that brings community together. There's a lot of great things,

531
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Speaker 2: and it's a much safer place and nearly all the

532
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Speaker 2: damage from alcohol happens from people drinking at home. This

533
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Speaker 2: person says, if the XIS text was removed to make

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Speaker 2: it an equal playing field for off licenses in HOSPO,

535
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Speaker 2: I can only imagine higher profits to be made from

536
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Speaker 2: HOSPO because they'll mark it up. But if there's higher

537
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Speaker 2: profits made by HOSPO, then they invest more, they hire more,

538
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Speaker 2: and that's a good thing. Right now, they're just holding

539
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Speaker 2: on a lot of people complaining about how much alcohol

540
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Speaker 2: is out. That's because it's so expensive to run a

541
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Speaker 2: venue with staff, with rent, security, with the fact that

542
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Speaker 2: you have to be open seven days a week. But

543
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Speaker 2: people are only going out on a Friday and Saturday.

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Speaker 3: They've got more regulations. They quite often need to have

545
00:27:03,733 --> 00:27:05,853
Speaker 3: kitchen stuff. I mean, there's a myriad of reasons, but

546
00:27:05,893 --> 00:27:09,093
Speaker 3: those are reasons why it is primarily a safer place

547
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Speaker 3: to drink alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Right Yeah, Sam, welcome to the show. This is a

549
00:27:12,813 --> 00:27:16,373
Speaker 2: different Sam, I assume, thank you for having me. It

550
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Speaker 2: sounds like a different, Sam here, how are Yeah, definitely

551
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on that same I'm.

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Speaker 16: Quite passionate about the subject actually, and I'd like to

553
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Speaker 16: speak speak how I feel about it.

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Speaker 8: I feel like if we.

555
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Speaker 16: Want to reduce the bulham in Auckland, we've got to

556
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Speaker 16: look at where the real risk starts. That's not your

557
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Speaker 16: local bar or like music venue. It is the liquor store.

558
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Speaker 6: Right now, we.

559
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Speaker 16: Walk into a bottle shop and pick up a high

560
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Speaker 16: strength bottle of spirits or a box.

561
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Speaker 8: Of artds, but next to nothing and.

562
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Speaker 16: That drives the culture of drinking, drinking heavily at home

563
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Speaker 16: where there are no limits, no supervision and no support

564
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Speaker 16: if something goes wrong. If you go to a venue,

565
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Speaker 16: it's a completely different story. The security at the door,

566
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Speaker 16: trains bar stuff at the bar, cleaners on site to

567
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Speaker 16: manage the hygiene so you don't need to clean up

568
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Speaker 16: your with you know, often live music and entertainment which

569
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Speaker 16: brings people together in a safe and social environment. I

570
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Speaker 16: mean it's no brainer. WHI should be directing people to

571
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Speaker 16: license venues where they have the safety and security and

572
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Speaker 16: they're built for holding people in a space.

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Speaker 8: Where people are drinking.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's unfair? Sam? That when people talk

575
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Speaker 2: about the harm from alcohol, they lump it all in together.

576
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Speaker 2: So eighty four percent, as I keep saying, is brought

577
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Speaker 2: and off licenses, and you know it's sixteen percent bought

578
00:28:42,613 --> 00:28:45,293
Speaker 2: at bars and restaurants, but that is all lumped together,

579
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Speaker 2: is one big thing. And as you say, Sam, one

580
00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:52,253
Speaker 2: part of drinking has a you know, not always but

581
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Speaker 2: has a community side to it and a positive side

582
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Speaker 2: to it, and one side, I mean the other side

583
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Speaker 2: does as well. But it's a very different experience, isn't it.

584
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Speaker 2: So do you think it's fair that they're all lumped

585
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Speaker 2: together in stats and the way we view it?

586
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Speaker 9: Not fair?

587
00:29:09,533 --> 00:29:11,493
Speaker 8: They're too completely different things.

588
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Speaker 6: Ooka.

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Speaker 16: I just live in Melbourne over in Australia, Victoria, and

590
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Speaker 16: they have got that alcohol pricing right. They discounted for

591
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Speaker 16: on licenses and off licenses. It's heavily packed and it

592
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Speaker 16: basically puts the weight on the drink. So if you're

593
00:29:29,693 --> 00:29:32,453
Speaker 16: at home, your drinking your hand that you've bought from

594
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Speaker 16: the off license, it's going to cost equivalent to kind

595
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Speaker 16: of what you would pay on an on license. So

596
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Speaker 16: there's no incentive to smash the drinks because they're quite

597
00:29:44,733 --> 00:29:47,173
Speaker 16: expensive to be frank and it's not like in New

598
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Speaker 16: Zealand where it averages to be about three dollars for

599
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Speaker 16: a bear.

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Speaker 8: There's no value on it here.

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Speaker 16: That's where I think Albin's drinking culture stems from, is

602
00:29:57,933 --> 00:30:00,213
Speaker 16: it's so cheap to drink at home.

603
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Speaker 2: And I wonder if people would you know, there's a

604
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Speaker 2: lot of talk about pre loading from young people before

605
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Speaker 2: they go to bars because alcohol's expense and you know,

606
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Speaker 2: you're definitely not supposed to be in a bar if

607
00:30:11,573 --> 00:30:15,413
Speaker 2: you esteemed there were laws around that. Yes, but preloading

608
00:30:15,453 --> 00:30:18,293
Speaker 2: is a big thing, and that I think preloading is

609
00:30:18,453 --> 00:30:20,733
Speaker 2: primarily a price thing, isn't it Sam.

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Speaker 16: It's one hundred you know, like if you say in

611
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Speaker 16: the average drink is around three dollars at home from

612
00:30:29,373 --> 00:30:32,413
Speaker 16: the off license, you know it's equivalent too, but you

613
00:30:32,893 --> 00:30:36,253
Speaker 16: can drink fly for the price of a Volka soda

614
00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:40,333
Speaker 16: in a bar. It's it's nonsensical like to you know,

615
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Speaker 16: if you're if you're a student or you know someone

616
00:30:43,253 --> 00:30:46,973
Speaker 16: a bit younger that doesn't make too much money, of

617
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Speaker 16: course you're in a preload. It's way too expensive to

618
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Speaker 16: drink in a bar, and it drives help in drinking

619
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Speaker 16: culture and It's a shame. It's such a shame. Whereas

620
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Speaker 16: in Melbourne, growing enough, we didn't have that so much

621
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Speaker 16: because how God was expensive.

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Speaker 6: So what would we rather do?

623
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Speaker 8: Would rather be at home.

624
00:31:05,933 --> 00:31:11,093
Speaker 16: And a tiny flat and albus drinking in a crowded

625
00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:15,013
Speaker 16: house and then the flats just wrecked afterwards and you

626
00:31:15,053 --> 00:31:17,693
Speaker 16: know they've got to deal with the aftermath. Or do

627
00:31:17,813 --> 00:31:20,573
Speaker 16: we just go to the lovely bar community bar down

628
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Speaker 16: the road where there's a DJ playing. You know, there's

629
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Speaker 16: staff that look after you.

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Speaker 2: You might you might meet, you might meet a lovely lady.

631
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Speaker 7: Sam.

632
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Speaker 8: That's it. That's where all the culture starts.

633
00:31:33,053 --> 00:31:36,573
Speaker 2: Or a new friend. Yeah, thank you so much for

634
00:31:36,613 --> 00:31:41,733
Speaker 2: your call it This Texas is breaking news. Muppets, supermarkets

635
00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:45,613
Speaker 2: and liquor stores employee people and invest in our communities. Yeah,

636
00:31:45,653 --> 00:31:48,093
Speaker 2: but I don't know, can you compare just one of

637
00:31:48,093 --> 00:31:50,853
Speaker 2: those as the police officer and the story described it,

638
00:31:51,133 --> 00:31:54,693
Speaker 2: one of these shittys or aloys. A great quote, wasn't it.

639
00:31:54,733 --> 00:31:58,133
Speaker 2: He really laid into old find that you know, uh,

640
00:31:58,293 --> 00:32:01,493
Speaker 2: and they do. But can you compare it just one

641
00:32:01,533 --> 00:32:04,693
Speaker 2: of those little you know, exactly the kind of bottle

642
00:32:04,733 --> 00:32:07,133
Speaker 2: store I'm describing with one person working behind the counter.

643
00:32:07,333 --> 00:32:09,573
Speaker 2: And look, bless those people that work behind the counters

644
00:32:09,613 --> 00:32:11,053
Speaker 2: in those bottle stores. I mean, that's one of the

645
00:32:11,093 --> 00:32:12,893
Speaker 2: most terrifying jobs in New Zealand, do isn't it?

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00:32:12,973 --> 00:32:16,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, I mean certainly they Yeah, they are

647
00:32:16,693 --> 00:32:18,613
Speaker 3: targeted by a lot of criminals.

648
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Speaker 2: And look, Andrew, I appreciate your text, but I reckon

649
00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:24,453
Speaker 2: the supermarket's going to be right. I reckon they'd be right.

650
00:32:24,493 --> 00:32:25,453
Speaker 2: They'll do just fine.

651
00:32:25,533 --> 00:32:27,933
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, right keeno on your views on this.

652
00:32:28,053 --> 00:32:30,213
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

653
00:32:30,253 --> 00:32:34,533
Speaker 2: It's and before Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee texted through.

654
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Speaker 2: I read out his text, but I didn't. I didn't

655
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Speaker 2: name check him as Lee say his name. It's all

656
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Speaker 2: he wants. No, Lee's a good man, so certainly his

657
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Speaker 2: apologies for not name checking your text when I read

658
00:32:44,053 --> 00:32:45,973
Speaker 2: it out before Lee Lee Le Le Le Le Lee.

659
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

660
00:32:50,453 --> 00:32:54,373
Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk, sa'd.

661
00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:56,813
Speaker 2: Be thirteen to two. Hey, so I said at the

662
00:32:56,813 --> 00:32:58,853
Speaker 2: start of the show that I'm not a misogynist, despite

663
00:32:58,853 --> 00:33:00,253
Speaker 2: an email that was sent to me. But it was

664
00:33:00,293 --> 00:33:03,453
Speaker 2: confusing between some phone calls that came into our show

665
00:33:03,893 --> 00:33:05,173
Speaker 2: and what I actually said.

666
00:33:05,253 --> 00:33:07,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, you defended yourself, well, I thought, but then I've

667
00:33:07,533 --> 00:33:08,253
Speaker 3: done a terrible thing.

668
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was just talking about Lee before the break,

669
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Speaker 2: and I assumed Lee was a male, mainly because I

670
00:33:14,333 --> 00:33:16,453
Speaker 2: know a couple of Lees that a male. But still

671
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Speaker 2: I should never assume. So I apologize to Lee. I'm

672
00:33:20,133 --> 00:33:23,013
Speaker 2: a god, I am a female. Wow, but my nickname

673
00:33:23,053 --> 00:33:24,573
Speaker 2: is Lee Gee.

674
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Speaker 3: So has she forgiven you? I think she's forgiven you.

675
00:33:29,013 --> 00:33:30,973
Speaker 3: Lee's a good person, She's.

676
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Speaker 2: That's that's terrible. I shouldn't have assumed. No, No, just

677
00:33:33,493 --> 00:33:35,173
Speaker 2: because I know a couple of Lees that are male

678
00:33:35,253 --> 00:33:36,213
Speaker 2: that they're all lizer.

679
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you apologize, all sins are forgiven. So,

680
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Speaker 3: and I'm sure Lee doesn't mind.

681
00:33:40,573 --> 00:33:43,613
Speaker 2: So, Lee, thanks for your fantastic text. We appreciate We

682
00:33:43,653 --> 00:33:45,253
Speaker 2: love you. Lee, John, Welcome to the show.

683
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Speaker 17: Goody goes here?

684
00:33:47,653 --> 00:33:48,693
Speaker 2: Are you very good?

685
00:33:50,573 --> 00:33:54,333
Speaker 17: You definitely guaring it to the bars, you know, paying

686
00:33:54,413 --> 00:33:58,533
Speaker 17: three of dollars for a store and lager versus, so

687
00:33:58,613 --> 00:34:01,373
Speaker 17: you pay four of them, it's forty eight dollars and

688
00:34:01,453 --> 00:34:03,933
Speaker 17: you can get a dozen, you know, for the same price.

689
00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:07,773
Speaker 17: It just goes to say, you, you know, oh Joe's

690
00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:10,213
Speaker 17: causing you know, I'll stay at home or drink those.

691
00:34:10,573 --> 00:34:14,212
Speaker 17: But I'm definitely a preloader. I preload and I'll go

692
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Speaker 17: into the bars.

693
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Speaker 2: Fl call was a little bit cheaper than bars, John

694
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Speaker 2: would would you would you go to the bar to

695
00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:23,413
Speaker 2: start off your evening?

696
00:34:26,373 --> 00:34:26,653
Speaker 9: Jeez?

697
00:34:27,013 --> 00:34:28,613
Speaker 17: It's even a tough one. Hell cheaper?

698
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Speaker 7: Would it had to be?

699
00:34:30,053 --> 00:34:30,573
Speaker 2: Ado?

700
00:34:32,213 --> 00:34:32,413
Speaker 7: Well?

701
00:34:32,773 --> 00:34:34,293
Speaker 2: I think, well, I mean it's always going to be

702
00:34:34,293 --> 00:34:36,373
Speaker 2: more expensive a bar because they have to hire people

703
00:34:36,373 --> 00:34:39,253
Speaker 2: to serve, they have to pay their rent, the heating,

704
00:34:39,373 --> 00:34:42,893
Speaker 2: the entertainment, the security, so you're you're always going to

705
00:34:42,893 --> 00:34:44,213
Speaker 2: be it's always going to be more expensive.

706
00:34:45,053 --> 00:34:48,813
Speaker 17: But they already know this. But you know here, you know,

707
00:34:49,253 --> 00:34:53,933
Speaker 17: so you're getting eight beers basically for free, and that

708
00:34:54,213 --> 00:34:58,133
Speaker 17: bar for them to sell them, offered a higher rate.

709
00:34:58,933 --> 00:35:00,853
Speaker 17: What if for the heaving in me? You know, there's

710
00:35:01,013 --> 00:35:02,853
Speaker 17: a lot of bars. You have the pokes in there,

711
00:35:02,973 --> 00:35:05,013
Speaker 17: so they've got all the poking machines to getting a

712
00:35:05,053 --> 00:35:09,093
Speaker 17: big cut head of it. They've got the little these

713
00:35:09,213 --> 00:35:15,133
Speaker 17: don't have dirty perkys dirty perky, you know, and they've

714
00:35:15,133 --> 00:35:17,413
Speaker 17: got a little bit of food on the other side.

715
00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:20,053
Speaker 17: But I see a lot of these bars absolutely packed,

716
00:35:20,093 --> 00:35:23,013
Speaker 17: and then they close them more than I just don't

717
00:35:23,013 --> 00:35:25,293
Speaker 17: know why they closed them. Why are they making a

718
00:35:25,373 --> 00:35:27,853
Speaker 17: killing because I reckon a lot of people pre load

719
00:35:27,893 --> 00:35:29,373
Speaker 17: and they only have a bit, two or three drinks

720
00:35:29,373 --> 00:35:30,293
Speaker 17: when they got.

721
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you right, John, thanks for you cool.

722
00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:34,053
Speaker 2: Well this Sextus says, oh, sorry, Tyler.

723
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Speaker 3: I'm just got to say on the price, because I

724
00:35:35,573 --> 00:35:37,933
Speaker 3: was trying to work it out. Workingmen's clubs and sports clubs,

725
00:35:37,973 --> 00:35:40,613
Speaker 3: for example, do they pay excised tax on the booths

726
00:35:40,693 --> 00:35:43,733
Speaker 3: they serve And I'm still trying to find out that information,

727
00:35:43,773 --> 00:35:46,732
Speaker 3: but effectively they do, But they're allowed to buy their

728
00:35:46,813 --> 00:35:49,893
Speaker 3: alcohol from the likes of supermarkets and liquor stores, right,

729
00:35:50,253 --> 00:35:52,772
Speaker 3: And because you're a member of that club, then they

730
00:35:52,813 --> 00:35:55,813
Speaker 3: are under different rules, so they pay less tax than

731
00:35:55,853 --> 00:35:59,573
Speaker 3: the likes of your businesses. So that would be for me,

732
00:35:59,733 --> 00:36:01,173
Speaker 3: the price is right because if you go into a

733
00:36:01,173 --> 00:36:04,573
Speaker 3: workingmen's club and get a beer for eight bucks, sometimes

734
00:36:04,613 --> 00:36:07,933
Speaker 3: a jug for ten, that is a more realistic pricing.

735
00:36:08,573 --> 00:36:10,652
Speaker 2: Could do that. Yeah, I would argue a lot more

736
00:36:10,653 --> 00:36:12,973
Speaker 2: people be going to hostpon on supporting Tyler. They don't

737
00:36:13,053 --> 00:36:16,333
Speaker 2: let radio DJs into working men's clubs because what you do,

738
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to inform you, doesn't really work.

739
00:36:17,933 --> 00:36:20,013
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm saying in the past because they ripped

740
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Speaker 3: up my membership after what I did last time, and

741
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Speaker 3: I'm really sorry about that.

742
00:36:22,893 --> 00:36:25,573
Speaker 2: Keshmi Club, but yeah, fantastic club. This is such a

743
00:36:25,693 --> 00:36:28,652
Speaker 2: ridiculous idea, says this text. You can't tell me making

744
00:36:28,733 --> 00:36:30,853
Speaker 2: drinks cheaper in town on a Friday and Saturday night

745
00:36:30,933 --> 00:36:33,133
Speaker 2: is going to reduce alcohol harm. It just moves it

746
00:36:33,133 --> 00:36:37,413
Speaker 2: to a different location. Higher tax on off purchases punishes

747
00:36:37,453 --> 00:36:40,093
Speaker 2: everyone who drinks responsibly at home, not just the ones

748
00:36:40,093 --> 00:36:43,053
Speaker 2: that causes harm. The idea that increasing tax lowers problems

749
00:36:43,133 --> 00:36:45,333
Speaker 2: is wrong. Look at the tobacco industry as an example,

750
00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:47,373
Speaker 2: where people are still smoking and now there is a

751
00:36:47,493 --> 00:36:51,013
Speaker 2: huge black market for cigarettes with crime at the high,

752
00:36:51,173 --> 00:36:54,173
Speaker 2: at all time high. Let's just make liquor stores even

753
00:36:54,253 --> 00:36:56,693
Speaker 2: more of a target. Yeah, I mean, I get what

754
00:36:56,733 --> 00:36:59,613
Speaker 2: you're saying. I mean my view of it is that

755
00:36:59,613 --> 00:37:03,693
Speaker 2: that they shouldn't increase the X size on off licenses.

756
00:37:03,973 --> 00:37:07,893
Speaker 2: I think they should just massively decrease it on for

757
00:37:07,973 --> 00:37:10,173
Speaker 2: restaurants and bars. And I think a good way to

758
00:37:10,213 --> 00:37:12,373
Speaker 2: start would be just on kegs because that's an easy

759
00:37:12,373 --> 00:37:14,133
Speaker 2: way to do it. Kick beer because it's only going

760
00:37:14,173 --> 00:37:15,933
Speaker 2: to restaurants on bars, right.

761
00:37:15,933 --> 00:37:19,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, because their analogy under tobacco, right is that if

762
00:37:19,213 --> 00:37:22,813
Speaker 3: there was a bar that you could buy cheaper cigarettes legally,

763
00:37:23,333 --> 00:37:25,333
Speaker 3: then more people would go and buy those cigarettes there.

764
00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:27,213
Speaker 3: So that would be a more appt analogy on what

765
00:37:27,253 --> 00:37:28,933
Speaker 3: that text was trying to say. We're not talking about

766
00:37:28,973 --> 00:37:29,732
Speaker 3: prohibition here.

767
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm no fan of tax I agree with

768
00:37:32,453 --> 00:37:34,292
Speaker 2: you taxing more. I'm absolutely no fan, but you would

769
00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:36,133
Speaker 2: have to say that people are smoking less than they

770
00:37:36,453 --> 00:37:37,893
Speaker 2: were when I was a kid. Yeah, I mean, I

771
00:37:37,933 --> 00:37:39,093
Speaker 2: was just talking on the show the other day. I

772
00:37:39,093 --> 00:37:41,013
Speaker 2: saw two cars in a row with people smoking in them,

773
00:37:41,053 --> 00:37:43,093
Speaker 2: and I hadn't seen that. I had seen that for

774
00:37:43,093 --> 00:37:45,692
Speaker 2: a very long time. But I also would push back

775
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Speaker 2: on this text.

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Speaker 6: Up.

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Speaker 2: This is recause you can't tell me drinks are cheaper

778
00:37:49,493 --> 00:37:52,013
Speaker 2: in town, It just moves to a different location. Well,

779
00:37:52,053 --> 00:37:55,213
Speaker 2: the police would disagree, because police argue off license alcohol

780
00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:59,373
Speaker 2: is disproportionately linked to harmful drinking, especially in homes, so

781
00:37:59,413 --> 00:38:01,853
Speaker 2: the police think it's better if people are drinking in

782
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Speaker 2: restaurants and bars than at home.

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Speaker 3: Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

784
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Speaker 3: number to call. It is eight to two.

785
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

786
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

787
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Speaker 1: Afternoons News Dogs. That'd be.

788
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Speaker 2: Afternoon.

789
00:38:19,653 --> 00:38:21,573
Speaker 3: It is five to two and we've had a great

790
00:38:21,573 --> 00:38:25,453
Speaker 3: discussion about the price of alcohol at our hospitality venues

791
00:38:25,573 --> 00:38:27,573
Speaker 3: versus the price of off license You look at store

792
00:38:27,573 --> 00:38:29,053
Speaker 3: of supermarkets.

793
00:38:28,493 --> 00:38:30,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I think the best way to run

794
00:38:30,733 --> 00:38:32,692
Speaker 2: a good start for this if you want to move

795
00:38:32,813 --> 00:38:37,053
Speaker 2: the drinking from eighty four percent from off licenses more

796
00:38:37,093 --> 00:38:42,573
Speaker 2: towards hospitality, as the police and hospitality groups argue off

797
00:38:42,613 --> 00:38:45,893
Speaker 2: license alcohols disproportionately link to harmful drinking. And I think

798
00:38:45,893 --> 00:38:48,013
Speaker 2: a good place to start is with the keigs because

799
00:38:48,093 --> 00:38:50,893
Speaker 2: kegs go into bars. So if you lower the excise

800
00:38:50,973 --> 00:38:53,973
Speaker 2: tax on kegs, then you will help just that little

801
00:38:54,013 --> 00:38:57,652
Speaker 2: percentage more money that bars can make will keep them

802
00:38:57,693 --> 00:39:00,893
Speaker 2: open and maybe help them open other bars because the

803
00:39:00,973 --> 00:39:03,973
Speaker 2: levers on bars. People complain about how much it costs

804
00:39:03,973 --> 00:39:05,933
Speaker 2: of drink at bars, but it is so expensive to

805
00:39:05,973 --> 00:39:09,172
Speaker 2: run a bar. You've got the rent, you've got security,

806
00:39:09,533 --> 00:39:12,493
Speaker 2: you've got everyone you have to employ in there. It's

807
00:39:12,533 --> 00:39:15,253
Speaker 2: not easy, stressful, veryan ateresty.

808
00:39:15,933 --> 00:39:16,133
Speaker 14: Just go.

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00:39:16,613 --> 00:39:18,093
Speaker 2: You've just got to look at Ozzie to see how

810
00:39:18,173 --> 00:39:20,692
Speaker 2: much better it is. Bars and pubs are busy there,

811
00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:23,133
Speaker 2: and bears are crazy expensive to buy to take home.

812
00:39:23,173 --> 00:39:25,333
Speaker 2: Make it cheaper in the bars and it will help

813
00:39:25,413 --> 00:39:28,533
Speaker 2: the industry. Very nice, well said text. I agree with you.

814
00:39:28,613 --> 00:39:28,733
Speaker 7: Now.

815
00:39:28,773 --> 00:39:31,813
Speaker 3: We were talking before about this comment from the police

816
00:39:31,853 --> 00:39:32,933
Speaker 3: officer Ian Paulan.

817
00:39:33,493 --> 00:39:35,692
Speaker 2: He is part of the New Zealand.

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00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:38,693
Speaker 3: Police Alcohol Alcohol Harm Group, and he said, here's the quote,

819
00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:40,732
Speaker 3: and it's a good one. Now, I would say that

820
00:39:40,813 --> 00:39:42,733
Speaker 3: a lot of the harm comes from your pack and saves.

821
00:39:42,733 --> 00:39:45,173
Speaker 3: Whereabouts the pack and saves are in our community is

822
00:39:45,213 --> 00:39:49,773
Speaker 3: a huge amount are from our cheap, shitty standalone bottle stores,

823
00:39:49,773 --> 00:39:53,373
Speaker 3: independently owned, tiny, wee cranky places that are weird. Where

824
00:39:53,373 --> 00:39:55,773
Speaker 3: are they in our communities and our vulnerable community?

825
00:39:55,893 --> 00:39:58,213
Speaker 2: So that was the quote. Yeah, well, I'll tell you

826
00:39:58,253 --> 00:40:00,493
Speaker 2: what though, I have a lot of empathy for those

827
00:40:00,533 --> 00:40:03,453
Speaker 2: people that have to work in those shitty little off licenses.

828
00:40:04,133 --> 00:40:06,732
Speaker 2: That's dangerous work. You have to deal with a lot

829
00:40:06,733 --> 00:40:09,253
Speaker 2: of a holes. You certainly some of them violent.

830
00:40:09,373 --> 00:40:12,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, that has been a great discussion, Thank you very much.

831
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Speaker 3: Right coming up after the news, we want to have

832
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Speaker 3: a chat about why so many people are moving from

833
00:40:18,773 --> 00:40:21,173
Speaker 3: the North Island to the South Island. We'll give you

834
00:40:21,213 --> 00:40:23,493
Speaker 3: the numbers very shortly, but keen to hear from you

835
00:40:23,533 --> 00:40:25,133
Speaker 3: if you've done it. A one hundred and eighty ten

836
00:40:25,213 --> 00:40:28,493
Speaker 3: eighties the number to call new Sport and Weather coming.

837
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Speaker 1: Up talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and

838
00:40:34,693 --> 00:40:37,333
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons News Talks.

839
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Speaker 18: It be.

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Speaker 3: News Talks. It'd be welcome back into the program. Hope

841
00:40:42,693 --> 00:40:46,133
Speaker 3: you having a great Thursday. We certainly are, and this

842
00:40:46,253 --> 00:40:48,293
Speaker 3: is going to be a great topic over the next

843
00:40:48,333 --> 00:40:49,293
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes or so.

844
00:40:49,613 --> 00:40:51,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting topic because we're talking about the

845
00:40:51,853 --> 00:40:53,933
Speaker 2: huge amounts of people that are leaving the North and

846
00:40:54,013 --> 00:40:57,413
Speaker 2: moving to the South. Whereas you and I Tyler, we're

847
00:40:57,453 --> 00:41:00,573
Speaker 2: both people that have moved from the South to the North.

848
00:41:00,613 --> 00:41:03,933
Speaker 2: Me from from the beautiful, pretty city of Dunedin and

849
00:41:04,013 --> 00:41:06,813
Speaker 2: you from Chatcha, Yes, and both fantastic cities.

850
00:41:06,813 --> 00:41:09,732
Speaker 3: But to give you the numbers over the last five years,

851
00:41:09,773 --> 00:41:12,813
Speaker 3: this is between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three released

852
00:41:12,813 --> 00:41:17,693
Speaker 3: by Stats New Zealand this morning, eighty six thousand people

853
00:41:17,773 --> 00:41:20,613
Speaker 3: shifted from the north to the south. The bulk of

854
00:41:20,653 --> 00:41:23,333
Speaker 3: that came from Auckland. Fifty thousand people left Auckland in

855
00:41:23,333 --> 00:41:26,252
Speaker 3: that time period and christ Church picked up the bulk

856
00:41:26,293 --> 00:41:29,013
Speaker 3: of those people. Forty three thousand moved to christ Church.

857
00:41:29,093 --> 00:41:32,493
Speaker 2: That's a decent sized town moving from one island to

858
00:41:32,493 --> 00:41:33,172
Speaker 2: the other, isn't it?

859
00:41:33,173 --> 00:41:33,493
Speaker 6: It is?

860
00:41:34,133 --> 00:41:34,652
Speaker 2: But it is.

861
00:41:34,853 --> 00:41:37,373
Speaker 3: I mean I heard Mike Costkin go on about christ

862
00:41:37,453 --> 00:41:39,293
Speaker 3: Church again this morning. When I say go on, I

863
00:41:39,293 --> 00:41:41,293
Speaker 3: actually love when he talks about christ Church because he's

864
00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:43,693
Speaker 3: been long saying that he'd dearly loved to move to

865
00:41:43,733 --> 00:41:46,773
Speaker 3: the city, and Kater's beautiful wife has Sometimes I.

866
00:41:46,693 --> 00:41:49,973
Speaker 2: Think nearly everyone in broadcasting is from christ Church. Yeah,

867
00:41:50,013 --> 00:41:52,333
Speaker 2: everywhere you look, everywhere you walk around and talk to people,

868
00:41:52,333 --> 00:41:54,213
Speaker 2: they're all from christ or from the South Islands.

869
00:41:54,493 --> 00:41:54,692
Speaker 7: Man.

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00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:58,533
Speaker 3: You Darcy water Grave, he's a cantab. Mike Coskin, of course,

871
00:41:58,853 --> 00:42:01,133
Speaker 3: Marcus Lush, he's down there in Bluff.

872
00:42:01,293 --> 00:42:03,212
Speaker 2: Wow, he's gone the other way, isn't he he? Yeah,

873
00:42:03,253 --> 00:42:04,973
Speaker 2: that's right, he's all up here and he's gone all

874
00:42:05,013 --> 00:42:07,133
Speaker 2: the way the bluff. Yeah, So if you have made

875
00:42:07,173 --> 00:42:08,533
Speaker 2: the move, love to hear from you on oh eight

876
00:42:08,653 --> 00:42:11,013
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. What was it that made you

877
00:42:11,653 --> 00:42:14,933
Speaker 2: look to go down south? And if you have made

878
00:42:14,973 --> 00:42:16,893
Speaker 2: the move to Christich, what are you loving about it?

879
00:42:16,933 --> 00:42:19,733
Speaker 2: Is it a slower pace of live? Yeah? Look, I

880
00:42:19,773 --> 00:42:22,573
Speaker 2: love the South, but you have to be hardcore to

881
00:42:22,613 --> 00:42:26,373
Speaker 2: live down there. You can't be a soft, squidgy North

882
00:42:26,413 --> 00:42:28,933
Speaker 2: Islander trying to make it through a window. You know, Tyler,

883
00:42:29,453 --> 00:42:31,613
Speaker 2: Look how hot and sweater you got up here, And

884
00:42:31,613 --> 00:42:33,733
Speaker 2: that's the reverse of it. It was so you were

885
00:42:33,773 --> 00:42:38,133
Speaker 2: calibrated completely to the Canterbury and climate, and you've just

886
00:42:38,173 --> 00:42:40,613
Speaker 2: been so horribly sweaty and stinky the whole time you've

887
00:42:40,653 --> 00:42:43,893
Speaker 2: been up here. Because the commidity is such an auckland

888
00:42:43,973 --> 00:42:46,533
Speaker 2: that a South Islander will sweat. But if you flip

889
00:42:46,573 --> 00:42:50,573
Speaker 2: that around, a North Islander in the South Island struggles.

890
00:42:51,093 --> 00:42:52,973
Speaker 2: I mean, I was born in the South Cheese roll

891
00:42:52,973 --> 00:42:55,013
Speaker 2: in my mouth, as I say, and I can handle

892
00:42:55,053 --> 00:42:57,933
Speaker 2: it and I love the cold, but I don't know

893
00:42:57,973 --> 00:43:01,693
Speaker 2: if North Islanders can. So I always ask when someone

894
00:43:01,773 --> 00:43:04,773
Speaker 2: moves to my beautiful hometown of Dunedin, I go talk

895
00:43:04,813 --> 00:43:08,173
Speaker 2: to me after the after winter, talk to me after

896
00:43:08,453 --> 00:43:12,093
Speaker 2: a full a targo winter, go have a trial period.

897
00:43:11,813 --> 00:43:13,813
Speaker 3: In June and then come back and have a check

898
00:43:13,853 --> 00:43:15,933
Speaker 3: to me and see how you go. Yeah, because the

899
00:43:15,933 --> 00:43:17,973
Speaker 3: other thing that people forget when they move down south

900
00:43:18,013 --> 00:43:20,093
Speaker 3: and the furthest south you go, the harder it gets,

901
00:43:20,133 --> 00:43:24,093
Speaker 3: but daylight hours gets drastically reduced. That you've got to

902
00:43:24,093 --> 00:43:25,893
Speaker 3: get used to. If you want to do anything after

903
00:43:25,933 --> 00:43:28,333
Speaker 3: four o'clock and Dunedin, then you've got to have a

904
00:43:28,373 --> 00:43:29,253
Speaker 3: head lamp on you.

905
00:43:30,253 --> 00:43:33,093
Speaker 2: And summer though, oh when I was a kid growing up,

906
00:43:33,253 --> 00:43:36,333
Speaker 2: boy boy, we'd play late in summer. You'd be out

907
00:43:36,373 --> 00:43:37,133
Speaker 2: till ninet thirty.

908
00:43:37,213 --> 00:43:39,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that is the flip side. Absolutely, Yeah,

909
00:43:39,653 --> 00:43:41,493
Speaker 3: you're still having a barbecue at ten o'clock at night.

910
00:43:41,613 --> 00:43:43,133
Speaker 3: But love to hear from you on eight hundred and

911
00:43:43,133 --> 00:43:45,373
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty What made you move south?

912
00:43:45,453 --> 00:43:48,413
Speaker 2: If you've made the Cane's coming hot, guys, the North

913
00:43:48,413 --> 00:43:50,813
Speaker 2: Island has cooked a lot more crime and it's just

914
00:43:50,813 --> 00:43:54,133
Speaker 2: full of a holes, says Cane. Wow, yeah, come hot.

915
00:43:54,373 --> 00:43:54,773
Speaker 2: I don't know.

916
00:43:54,813 --> 00:43:57,253
Speaker 3: There's a few good inns, few Gooden's up here looking

917
00:43:57,333 --> 00:44:01,453
Speaker 3: around and if you are considering making the move, also

918
00:44:01,533 --> 00:44:04,253
Speaker 3: love to hear from you on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

919
00:44:04,693 --> 00:44:07,013
Speaker 2: And if you went down there and thought, actually it's

920
00:44:07,013 --> 00:44:07,893
Speaker 2: too boring down here.

921
00:44:07,893 --> 00:44:09,893
Speaker 3: There's not much going on. It is a slow pace

922
00:44:09,933 --> 00:44:11,413
Speaker 3: of life and that's not for me. And I want

923
00:44:11,413 --> 00:44:13,133
Speaker 3: to go back to a big city where there is

924
00:44:13,173 --> 00:44:15,732
Speaker 3: a lot more action and more things happening and more

925
00:44:15,733 --> 00:44:18,133
Speaker 3: sports events. Then are really keen to have a chat

926
00:44:18,173 --> 00:44:20,173
Speaker 3: with you as well, nine to nine two if you

927
00:44:20,173 --> 00:44:22,053
Speaker 3: want to send a text message, but the number, oh

928
00:44:22,133 --> 00:44:24,573
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

929
00:44:26,413 --> 00:44:30,613
Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

930
00:44:30,813 --> 00:44:33,813
Speaker 1: call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be.

931
00:44:35,613 --> 00:44:37,853
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you. Thirteen past two.

932
00:44:38,053 --> 00:44:40,333
Speaker 3: And we're talking about figures out that a lot more

933
00:44:40,333 --> 00:44:44,533
Speaker 3: North Islanders deciding to move south. Recent figures out from

934
00:44:44,573 --> 00:44:47,692
Speaker 3: Stats New Zealand show eighty three thousand, eighty six rather

935
00:44:47,733 --> 00:44:50,533
Speaker 3: on thousand people shifted from the North Island to the

936
00:44:50,613 --> 00:44:53,173
Speaker 3: South between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three, big numbers.

937
00:44:53,253 --> 00:44:55,652
Speaker 2: The Sexy says, I moved south to Needen last year.

938
00:44:55,693 --> 00:44:57,653
Speaker 2: The cold is no problem. It's the lack of hot

939
00:44:57,693 --> 00:45:00,413
Speaker 2: summer that's hard. Yeah, But in donedan. You get those

940
00:45:00,453 --> 00:45:05,973
Speaker 2: thirty degree days where the asphalt runs, it's Dunedin gets

941
00:45:06,013 --> 00:45:08,373
Speaker 2: holder than Auckland. Yeah it does, one, okay does. The

942
00:45:08,373 --> 00:45:10,293
Speaker 2: problem is that you'll get a thirty degree day and

943
00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:13,173
Speaker 2: the next day it will be twelve. Yeah. The cold,

944
00:45:13,293 --> 00:45:15,252
Speaker 2: there's no promise. The lack of a hot summer. That's hard.

945
00:45:15,293 --> 00:45:18,413
Speaker 2: I don't regret it. The city is way prettier, not

946
00:45:18,453 --> 00:45:21,253
Speaker 2: to mention the amazing surrounding nature, and easier to get

947
00:45:21,293 --> 00:45:25,373
Speaker 2: around than Auckland. As a student. Couldn't recommend Dunedin.

948
00:45:25,093 --> 00:45:27,133
Speaker 3: More no traffic, but I'm going to say, I mean

949
00:45:27,173 --> 00:45:30,212
Speaker 3: the cold and Dunedin is just a step up above

950
00:45:30,253 --> 00:45:33,053
Speaker 3: christ Church obviously, but all those hills and the ice

951
00:45:33,173 --> 00:45:34,933
Speaker 3: that is I mean, I could never get my head

952
00:45:34,933 --> 00:45:35,213
Speaker 3: around that.

953
00:45:36,013 --> 00:45:41,013
Speaker 2: Welcome to show, Karen, oh Hi, Yeah, so I'm all

954
00:45:41,053 --> 00:45:41,693
Speaker 2: over the show.

955
00:45:41,733 --> 00:45:46,853
Speaker 9: But basically I moved from Auckland to christ Chooch after

956
00:45:46,893 --> 00:45:50,013
Speaker 9: the lockdown. So it was one of those COVID refugees

957
00:45:50,453 --> 00:45:55,773
Speaker 9: after the first lockdown finished. Smart Yeah, to get a

958
00:45:55,813 --> 00:45:58,373
Speaker 9: get away from Auckland. So I missed that long a

959
00:45:58,413 --> 00:45:59,333
Speaker 9: couple of months.

960
00:45:59,093 --> 00:46:01,453
Speaker 2: Lockdown necessary lockdown.

961
00:46:01,533 --> 00:46:06,053
Speaker 9: Yeah, So anyway, I've moved to christ Church, and I've

962
00:46:06,093 --> 00:46:09,773
Speaker 9: lived in christ Church before the and during the quakes.

963
00:46:09,973 --> 00:46:13,693
Speaker 9: Then I came back to Auckland and yeah, after COVID,

964
00:46:13,693 --> 00:46:16,413
Speaker 9: moved back to christ Church again, and yeah it was great.

965
00:46:16,453 --> 00:46:20,333
Speaker 9: It's just it's just so relaxing, Like you know, in Auckland,

966
00:46:20,373 --> 00:46:22,533
Speaker 9: even if you're just sitting in your apartment or house,

967
00:46:22,573 --> 00:46:24,613
Speaker 9: you can feel the buzz and the energy and the

968
00:46:24,653 --> 00:46:27,493
Speaker 9: streets that, oh my god, you you go out, you've

969
00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:30,733
Speaker 9: gotta get stuck in traffic. And but yes, there's a

970
00:46:30,773 --> 00:46:33,853
Speaker 9: lot more to do in Auckland, but in Christchurch there's

971
00:46:33,853 --> 00:46:37,613
Speaker 9: always this th real relaxing, you know that if you're

972
00:46:37,693 --> 00:46:39,493
Speaker 9: a head out at any time of the day, you know,

973
00:46:39,653 --> 00:46:43,973
Speaker 9: compared to Auckland, it's a lot more relaxing and it's

974
00:46:44,093 --> 00:46:46,413
Speaker 9: just so stress free and you just feel like you're

975
00:46:46,413 --> 00:46:50,533
Speaker 9: in a big regional town. And when it comes to

976
00:46:50,653 --> 00:46:55,653
Speaker 9: weather wise, I prefer the christ Church winters because you

977
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:57,813
Speaker 9: get more sun, you get you know, you get the

978
00:46:57,893 --> 00:47:02,413
Speaker 9: crofts and you get beautiful days. And I absolutely would

979
00:47:02,533 --> 00:47:07,333
Speaker 9: rather have that than Wellington and Auckland winters, where you

980
00:47:07,333 --> 00:47:09,533
Speaker 9: know you don't see the sun for weeks.

981
00:47:09,293 --> 00:47:11,573
Speaker 2: You know, oh well, I don't know that's about harsh.

982
00:47:11,933 --> 00:47:13,893
Speaker 2: Don't see the sun for weeks in Auckland. But what

983
00:47:14,213 --> 00:47:17,613
Speaker 2: what you do? So and do see? And Tyler's finding

984
00:47:17,613 --> 00:47:20,373
Speaker 2: this out. You do see a lot of precipitation, a

985
00:47:20,413 --> 00:47:23,573
Speaker 2: lot of rain. May be warmer, but you get wetter

986
00:47:24,093 --> 00:47:27,933
Speaker 2: up here. Absolutely. But you know, you say, I mean sorry, you.

987
00:47:27,893 --> 00:47:32,533
Speaker 9: Go yeah, no, no, no, no, just you know the weatherwise,

988
00:47:32,613 --> 00:47:34,293
Speaker 9: I don't know. And then the pastor and I've lived

989
00:47:34,333 --> 00:47:37,373
Speaker 9: in Auckland June July. At the end of July, it

990
00:47:37,453 --> 00:47:41,173
Speaker 9: used to get so depressing that you you know, don't

991
00:47:41,213 --> 00:47:44,013
Speaker 9: see enough sun. And I just thought, no, I'm going

992
00:47:44,093 --> 00:47:45,853
Speaker 9: to get out of the country. It's like go, go,

993
00:47:46,693 --> 00:47:48,933
Speaker 9: you know, book a flight to Bali or whatever. But

994
00:47:48,973 --> 00:47:51,613
Speaker 9: then christ Church, I don't get that. You know, yes,

995
00:47:51,613 --> 00:47:54,573
Speaker 9: it's colder, but you go out and you get the sun.

996
00:47:54,853 --> 00:47:57,973
Speaker 9: Even if it's five degrees it's nice and sunny and

997
00:47:58,013 --> 00:47:59,693
Speaker 9: you know, you can still go out and be in

998
00:47:59,733 --> 00:48:00,973
Speaker 9: the sun and it's beautiful.

999
00:48:01,213 --> 00:48:04,773
Speaker 3: You do get some bad winters sunrise and christ Church, Karen,

1000
00:48:04,813 --> 00:48:07,652
Speaker 3: but I think when it's rainy, you know it's going

1001
00:48:07,733 --> 00:48:10,253
Speaker 3: to be rainy for a good three days solid, and

1002
00:48:10,293 --> 00:48:11,933
Speaker 3: then you and then you're home and host and then

1003
00:48:11,973 --> 00:48:13,653
Speaker 3: you're going to get some sun. And when it's sunny,

1004
00:48:13,693 --> 00:48:15,573
Speaker 3: you know you've got a straight run. The thing about

1005
00:48:15,613 --> 00:48:17,933
Speaker 3: Auckland that I'm studying to get used to, but it's hard,

1006
00:48:18,213 --> 00:48:20,493
Speaker 3: is that if it's beautifully sunny in the morning and

1007
00:48:20,533 --> 00:48:22,253
Speaker 3: it's not too bad right now, but I'm looking out

1008
00:48:22,253 --> 00:48:24,733
Speaker 3: the window and I see blue sky, but I know

1009
00:48:25,013 --> 00:48:27,573
Speaker 3: in about two hours, maybe even less, there's a good

1010
00:48:27,653 --> 00:48:29,772
Speaker 3: chance it's going to be absolutely bucketing down again.

1011
00:48:29,853 --> 00:48:30,053
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1012
00:48:30,053 --> 00:48:31,293
Speaker 2: Well that's what they say. If you don't like the

1013
00:48:31,293 --> 00:48:33,533
Speaker 2: weather in Auckland, just wait five minutes. Yeah, and that's

1014
00:48:33,573 --> 00:48:37,453
Speaker 2: a nice thing to about it sometimes as well. Okay,

1015
00:48:38,333 --> 00:48:40,893
Speaker 2: just just just before we let you go. There's so

1016
00:48:41,013 --> 00:48:42,853
Speaker 2: much to do, you see. You see there's list to

1017
00:48:42,853 --> 00:48:44,973
Speaker 2: do in christ Church. I think there's so much to do.

1018
00:48:45,013 --> 00:48:48,133
Speaker 2: Whenever I go down there, there's there's a new bar open,

1019
00:48:48,173 --> 00:48:52,333
Speaker 2: a new restaurant and a new facility opening. I feel

1020
00:48:52,373 --> 00:48:54,213
Speaker 2: like christ Church hast got a lot going on.

1021
00:48:55,893 --> 00:48:57,053
Speaker 6: Yes, I agree.

1022
00:48:57,093 --> 00:48:59,373
Speaker 9: I mean, so it's a great city. It's it's evolved,

1023
00:48:59,453 --> 00:49:02,053
Speaker 9: you know, beautifully, and it's I mean, i'd still say

1024
00:49:02,053 --> 00:49:04,093
Speaker 9: it's the best city to live in New Zealand at

1025
00:49:04,093 --> 00:49:06,172
Speaker 9: the moment. But I mean, as you know, I mean

1026
00:49:06,213 --> 00:49:09,533
Speaker 9: you probably can pick up on an immigrant. So in

1027
00:49:09,653 --> 00:49:12,133
Speaker 9: terms of you know, being an immigrant, like you know,

1028
00:49:12,413 --> 00:49:16,133
Speaker 9: I come from an Indian background. This is a plug

1029
00:49:16,133 --> 00:49:17,333
Speaker 9: in for Auckland.

1030
00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:17,093
Speaker 16: You know.

1031
00:49:17,213 --> 00:49:19,652
Speaker 9: And then whenever I come back to Auckland, you know,

1032
00:49:20,093 --> 00:49:23,693
Speaker 9: just going to Sandringham or you know, Mount Roskill or wherever.

1033
00:49:23,813 --> 00:49:25,732
Speaker 9: You know. At the moment, I'm hanging out a lot

1034
00:49:25,733 --> 00:49:28,893
Speaker 9: of blackouts day and it's just amazing, you know, the

1035
00:49:28,973 --> 00:49:33,133
Speaker 9: kind of food that you get here, and it's obviously

1036
00:49:33,413 --> 00:49:36,973
Speaker 9: much more diverse, and you know, the Auckland's off off.

1037
00:49:37,093 --> 00:49:39,733
Speaker 9: Auckland's got something to offer that no other city in

1038
00:49:39,773 --> 00:49:42,533
Speaker 9: New Zealand can offer. Yeah, you know in those tombs

1039
00:49:42,533 --> 00:49:44,613
Speaker 9: of you know things. So you know, you don't have

1040
00:49:44,653 --> 00:49:48,013
Speaker 9: a Sandringham in Wellington or christ Church or Dunedin.

1041
00:49:47,693 --> 00:49:48,613
Speaker 6: Or you know wherever.

1042
00:49:49,173 --> 00:49:51,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Sandraingham is where you get. You know, there's

1043
00:49:51,573 --> 00:49:54,172
Speaker 2: so many great restaurants in Sandraham. It's all trade off.

1044
00:49:54,173 --> 00:49:56,053
Speaker 2: So that wasn't it. It is? Yeah, you get to

1045
00:49:56,253 --> 00:49:57,973
Speaker 2: get get good with the bad and the bad with

1046
00:49:58,053 --> 00:49:58,333
Speaker 2: the good.

1047
00:49:58,373 --> 00:50:00,533
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it though. Auckland the food capital

1048
00:50:00,533 --> 00:50:02,293
Speaker 3: of New Zealand. And it has been for some time

1049
00:50:02,373 --> 00:50:04,373
Speaker 3: phenomenal up here in terms of the options. OH eight

1050
00:50:04,373 --> 00:50:06,133
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

1051
00:50:06,133 --> 00:50:08,133
Speaker 3: call if you have moved from the North Island to

1052
00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:10,573
Speaker 3: the out Island. Why how are you finding it? And

1053
00:50:10,653 --> 00:50:12,253
Speaker 3: if you've gone the other way, love to hear from

1054
00:50:12,293 --> 00:50:12,692
Speaker 3: you as well.

1055
00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:12,853
Speaker 6: Well.

1056
00:50:12,853 --> 00:50:15,533
Speaker 2: This Texas, says christ Church. Weather is crap, Tyler is

1057
00:50:15,973 --> 00:50:18,373
Speaker 2: full of I'm not going to say that. I can

1058
00:50:18,453 --> 00:50:19,692
Speaker 2: I can say that we're kind of wet. We can

1059
00:50:19,733 --> 00:50:23,973
Speaker 2: say that, yeah, shit, this person's moving back to Akland. Okay,

1060
00:50:24,053 --> 00:50:25,493
Speaker 2: so then you're gonna come come, come back in.

1061
00:50:26,253 --> 00:50:28,293
Speaker 3: It is nineteen past two, but will take more of

1062
00:50:28,333 --> 00:50:31,253
Speaker 3: your phone calls very shortly. And we do have someone

1063
00:50:31,293 --> 00:50:34,253
Speaker 3: who was in Canterbury and they decided it wasn't from

1064
00:50:34,253 --> 00:50:35,853
Speaker 3: them and they've moved to the North Islands.

1065
00:50:36,013 --> 00:50:38,653
Speaker 2: Yeah for to teny to them. Not many ski fields

1066
00:50:38,653 --> 00:50:39,933
Speaker 2: in Auckland. That's a good point, Ben.

1067
00:50:39,893 --> 00:50:47,253
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight

1068
00:50:47,293 --> 00:50:50,212
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty on news talk zby very.

1069
00:50:50,133 --> 00:50:52,213
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, and we are talking about the numbers of

1070
00:50:52,253 --> 00:50:54,813
Speaker 3: people moving from the North Island to the South Island

1071
00:50:54,853 --> 00:50:56,652
Speaker 3: eighty six thousand.

1072
00:50:56,173 --> 00:51:01,493
Speaker 2: According to the latest figures just released. Yeah, having just

1073
00:51:01,573 --> 00:51:03,893
Speaker 2: moved back to Akland from fifteen years abroad, mailing in

1074
00:51:03,933 --> 00:51:06,573
Speaker 2: the uk Auckland winter is a piece of piss. I

1075
00:51:06,613 --> 00:51:09,373
Speaker 2: only need to wear long pants by choice rather than

1076
00:51:09,533 --> 00:51:12,333
Speaker 2: than requirement. I will take the rain over a week

1077
00:51:12,373 --> 00:51:15,453
Speaker 2: of frosts that don't clear. S is Dan. Now a

1078
00:51:15,453 --> 00:51:17,933
Speaker 2: lot of people are texting through that are from my

1079
00:51:17,973 --> 00:51:20,253
Speaker 2: hometown of Denedan saying, yeah, the only reason why you

1080
00:51:20,293 --> 00:51:22,613
Speaker 2: can't hit a winter because you don't have enough marino.

1081
00:51:23,813 --> 00:51:26,053
Speaker 2: That's true. As my dad used to say to me

1082
00:51:26,093 --> 00:51:27,893
Speaker 2: when I'd asked to turn the heaters up, He'd say,

1083
00:51:27,893 --> 00:51:30,333
Speaker 2: put another jersey on, get another layer on, Yeah, get

1084
00:51:30,333 --> 00:51:34,893
Speaker 2: another layer on, Just get another layer on and shut up. Ah, Philip,

1085
00:51:34,893 --> 00:51:35,813
Speaker 2: welcome to show.

1086
00:51:37,293 --> 00:51:37,453
Speaker 7: Good.

1087
00:51:37,693 --> 00:51:38,292
Speaker 12: How are you going?

1088
00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:41,973
Speaker 2: Very good? So did you you move the other direction? Philip?

1089
00:51:43,373 --> 00:51:43,853
Speaker 7: Yeah, we know.

1090
00:51:44,013 --> 00:51:46,933
Speaker 12: We came down from the Bay of plenty two and

1091
00:51:46,933 --> 00:51:47,773
Speaker 12: a half years ago.

1092
00:51:48,133 --> 00:51:50,693
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry I've read that wrong. Yes, yep, I

1093
00:51:50,813 --> 00:51:51,093
Speaker 2: got cha.

1094
00:51:52,573 --> 00:51:52,772
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1095
00:51:52,853 --> 00:51:54,773
Speaker 12: No, we were meant to be on that first pory

1096
00:51:54,853 --> 00:51:58,013
Speaker 12: that broke down, but we managed to get across and

1097
00:51:58,133 --> 00:52:02,172
Speaker 12: we lived in a motel and christ Church for six

1098
00:52:02,213 --> 00:52:05,293
Speaker 12: weeks while we're rundering where to live. I did have

1099
00:52:05,333 --> 00:52:10,493
Speaker 12: some family down here on my father's They showed us

1100
00:52:10,493 --> 00:52:14,613
Speaker 12: around and and we've ended up buying a place in

1101
00:52:14,693 --> 00:52:16,773
Speaker 12: Pegasus and we're loving it all right.

1102
00:52:16,933 --> 00:52:21,933
Speaker 2: So Pegasus. Pegasus is a new development, isn't it. It's

1103
00:52:21,973 --> 00:52:23,212
Speaker 2: got a lot of building happening in Peters.

1104
00:52:23,533 --> 00:52:26,773
Speaker 12: I think it started quite a while ago, but I

1105
00:52:26,853 --> 00:52:30,253
Speaker 12: understand after the Crakes that's already gone ahead here. But

1106
00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:33,293
Speaker 12: it's awesome. But the old you know, we came down

1107
00:52:33,373 --> 00:52:36,053
Speaker 12: into our son and daughter in law and the grandkids.

1108
00:52:37,213 --> 00:52:40,133
Speaker 12: We're living in Kayapoi and the old adages. You probably

1109
00:52:40,133 --> 00:52:43,093
Speaker 12: shouldn't follow them around the world. But because they've got

1110
00:52:43,173 --> 00:52:46,453
Speaker 12: up and moved to France because she's French, right, So

1111
00:52:46,533 --> 00:52:48,813
Speaker 12: we're still still down here on our own, but we

1112
00:52:49,333 --> 00:52:51,692
Speaker 12: enjoy it and wonderful place.

1113
00:52:51,773 --> 00:52:53,693
Speaker 2: It looks like a good lifestyle on Pegasus.

1114
00:52:53,733 --> 00:52:55,692
Speaker 3: That you're a little bit out of christ Well, when

1115
00:52:55,733 --> 00:52:57,453
Speaker 3: I say a little bit, it's probably about twenty five

1116
00:52:57,493 --> 00:52:59,692
Speaker 3: minutes out of the city, right, and then you've got

1117
00:52:59,773 --> 00:53:03,212
Speaker 3: what's the big development just passed the roundabout, So you've got.

1118
00:53:03,093 --> 00:53:06,053
Speaker 2: A new world there you got, you've got a Bunnies.

1119
00:53:06,173 --> 00:53:08,333
Speaker 3: It's just popped up kind of in the middle of nowhere,

1120
00:53:08,493 --> 00:53:09,973
Speaker 3: but that's obviously the service, you guys.

1121
00:53:11,533 --> 00:53:14,813
Speaker 12: The Bunnings hasn't started yet, but that's what I understand.

1122
00:53:14,933 --> 00:53:17,293
Speaker 12: Going up. There's a there's a Harvey normOn that's opened

1123
00:53:17,373 --> 00:53:20,773
Speaker 12: up that wasn't there when we arrived. There was there

1124
00:53:20,853 --> 00:53:24,373
Speaker 12: was a New World, the BP and McDonald's, and now

1125
00:53:24,773 --> 00:53:28,893
Speaker 12: there's a gal there's there's a whole lot of restaurants,

1126
00:53:28,933 --> 00:53:34,533
Speaker 12: a tooth whitening outfit, and it's it's so, you know,

1127
00:53:34,613 --> 00:53:36,853
Speaker 12: twenty five minutes to the airport, thirty minutes of the

1128
00:53:36,893 --> 00:53:41,413
Speaker 12: city center, pretty good, and it's wonderful down here.

1129
00:53:41,413 --> 00:53:42,293
Speaker 2: We do stuff, can you?

1130
00:53:42,573 --> 00:53:42,733
Speaker 1: Is that?

1131
00:53:42,973 --> 00:53:44,813
Speaker 2: Can you do a bunch of stuff in the lake?

1132
00:53:46,493 --> 00:53:49,653
Speaker 2: Is it that you? You can't do stuff in the lake.

1133
00:53:50,813 --> 00:53:54,013
Speaker 12: As they used to initially, but it gets that old

1134
00:53:54,293 --> 00:53:57,613
Speaker 12: algae bloom and stopped all that, and lots of people

1135
00:53:57,653 --> 00:54:00,133
Speaker 12: talking about it. Pretty close you see remote control of

1136
00:54:00,253 --> 00:54:02,053
Speaker 12: yachts and that sort of thing, but.

1137
00:54:02,573 --> 00:54:04,493
Speaker 3: Pretty close to the beach. And you've got you've got

1138
00:54:04,533 --> 00:54:06,093
Speaker 3: a pretty nice golf course as well. Do you see

1139
00:54:06,173 --> 00:54:07,493
Speaker 3: Richard Hadley around there anymore?

1140
00:54:08,613 --> 00:54:11,573
Speaker 12: Yeah. In fact, he's moved house and he's on the

1141
00:54:11,613 --> 00:54:13,493
Speaker 12: same street that we are, so he's only.

1142
00:54:13,693 --> 00:54:18,133
Speaker 19: Up the road now and then good neighbors joined life.

1143
00:54:18,413 --> 00:54:20,732
Speaker 12: Yeah, but it seems to be a popular place and

1144
00:54:21,053 --> 00:54:23,733
Speaker 12: so you everyone that comes down and visits.

1145
00:54:23,733 --> 00:54:24,253
Speaker 2: Just love it.

1146
00:54:24,253 --> 00:54:27,613
Speaker 12: It's so easy to get around and it's all new

1147
00:54:27,653 --> 00:54:27,973
Speaker 12: to us.

1148
00:54:28,893 --> 00:54:32,133
Speaker 2: So you'd never moved back. You're happy with you, You're

1149
00:54:32,133 --> 00:54:33,893
Speaker 2: happy with you South and you never go back.

1150
00:54:34,613 --> 00:54:35,133
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1151
00:54:35,293 --> 00:54:38,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, well think if you cool, So well, there we go. Pegasus.

1152
00:54:38,973 --> 00:54:42,973
Speaker 2: I love the name Pegasus and beach. Yeah, I mean

1153
00:54:42,973 --> 00:54:44,293
Speaker 2: it's a good, good spot.

1154
00:54:44,173 --> 00:54:46,973
Speaker 3: It and living next door to Sir Richard Hadley, you

1155
00:54:47,053 --> 00:54:48,133
Speaker 3: know he's got some benefits.

1156
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:48,573
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1157
00:54:48,653 --> 00:54:54,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter, imagine Sir Richard Hedley a war situation. But

1158
00:54:54,093 --> 00:54:56,893
Speaker 2: let's not get into that. Well in the show, Peter.

1159
00:54:58,053 --> 00:55:00,493
Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks very much. That is hope, and I put

1160
00:55:00,493 --> 00:55:03,333
Speaker 10: my foot in my mouth. But this morning on my show,

1161
00:55:03,373 --> 00:55:04,853
Speaker 10: there was an ambassador for christ Church.

1162
00:55:04,893 --> 00:55:07,493
Speaker 2: I can't remember her name, Elie Adams, I think it was.

1163
00:55:08,693 --> 00:55:08,933
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1164
00:55:09,053 --> 00:55:11,053
Speaker 10: One of the points that she made is forty six

1165
00:55:11,093 --> 00:55:14,173
Speaker 10: percent for fifty thousand people that were moving approximately to

1166
00:55:14,213 --> 00:55:17,133
Speaker 10: christ Church were under twenty four They were between educational

1167
00:55:17,173 --> 00:55:20,133
Speaker 10: ages students, So these are people that are going there

1168
00:55:20,173 --> 00:55:23,893
Speaker 10: either in temporary This is forty six percent of that number, guys.

1169
00:55:23,653 --> 00:55:25,413
Speaker 2: Is that what she said? I'm just reading the article

1170
00:55:25,413 --> 00:55:26,373
Speaker 2: here and I did hear that.

1171
00:55:26,453 --> 00:55:28,893
Speaker 3: Primarily it's a lot of younger people, which is fantastic

1172
00:55:28,933 --> 00:55:30,493
Speaker 3: for the city, they were her words, and it is

1173
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:31,692
Speaker 3: fantastic for christ Church.

1174
00:55:32,653 --> 00:55:35,973
Speaker 10: But she she made forty six percent of the number

1175
00:55:36,013 --> 00:55:38,733
Speaker 10: that we're talking about of that educational age. They weren't

1176
00:55:38,733 --> 00:55:41,093
Speaker 10: just maybe there were families brand kids there.

1177
00:55:41,733 --> 00:55:45,253
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, Well were just looking at this, looking at

1178
00:55:45,293 --> 00:55:46,853
Speaker 2: these stats here though, there are a lot of young

1179
00:55:46,893 --> 00:55:49,533
Speaker 2: families moving down here, so there are students from the

1180
00:55:49,533 --> 00:55:51,453
Speaker 2: mix back? Does it?

1181
00:55:51,493 --> 00:55:51,533
Speaker 11: So?

1182
00:55:51,613 --> 00:55:54,173
Speaker 10: Really what we're talking about as a number of actual families,

1183
00:55:54,293 --> 00:55:57,533
Speaker 10: income people, working people that are going down there, and

1184
00:55:57,613 --> 00:56:00,493
Speaker 10: maybe half that number because the rest of them are

1185
00:56:00,533 --> 00:56:01,093
Speaker 10: their children.

1186
00:56:01,533 --> 00:56:03,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you and what's your point, what's your point?

1187
00:56:04,133 --> 00:56:07,413
Speaker 10: There's a relativity, Well, there's a relativity about that. As

1188
00:56:07,453 --> 00:56:09,373
Speaker 10: the numbers when you talk and your listeners are looking,

1189
00:56:09,773 --> 00:56:12,172
Speaker 10: fifty thousand orphantors have gone down there, or really about

1190
00:56:12,213 --> 00:56:14,652
Speaker 10: twenty five thousand families possibly have moved down there. The

1191
00:56:14,693 --> 00:56:17,453
Speaker 10: rest of them will be either students that are flatting

1192
00:56:17,933 --> 00:56:19,973
Speaker 10: or they've gone down with family, So the number is

1193
00:56:19,973 --> 00:56:24,093
Speaker 10: actually less than an actual main cores of income people

1194
00:56:24,173 --> 00:56:25,893
Speaker 10: homeowners that are going down there.

1195
00:56:26,333 --> 00:56:30,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean it's still an interesting figure.

1196
00:56:30,133 --> 00:56:32,093
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'll get your point, Peter, But from

1197
00:56:32,093 --> 00:56:33,613
Speaker 3: a stat's point of view, then you'd look at the

1198
00:56:33,653 --> 00:56:36,653
Speaker 3: population of Auckland and say, well, you know, there's only

1199
00:56:37,413 --> 00:56:40,533
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty thousand adults here because you remove

1200
00:56:40,573 --> 00:56:42,172
Speaker 3: the kids side of things. But I get what you're saying.

1201
00:56:42,213 --> 00:56:44,013
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of younger people moving down there.

1202
00:56:44,053 --> 00:56:47,253
Speaker 3: But that is strange in itself, right, is young people

1203
00:56:47,253 --> 00:56:49,813
Speaker 3: primarily would have looked at christ Church and say it's boring,

1204
00:56:49,893 --> 00:56:51,652
Speaker 3: there's no nightlife. What am I going to do as

1205
00:56:51,653 --> 00:56:52,533
Speaker 3: a twenty year old?

1206
00:56:52,693 --> 00:56:55,493
Speaker 2: What's the population of christ Church? As a population of

1207
00:56:55,573 --> 00:56:59,293
Speaker 2: christ Churach can increasing? Yeah, it is. I believe it's

1208
00:56:59,333 --> 00:57:02,973
Speaker 2: around about why to christ Church five hundred thousand. Yeah, right,

1209
00:57:03,933 --> 00:57:05,613
Speaker 2: But also, I mean it is an interesting you know,

1210
00:57:05,613 --> 00:57:07,293
Speaker 2: Peter brings up their point, but it is interesting how

1211
00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:11,053
Speaker 2: popular Christitch University's coming as well. Yeah, because that used

1212
00:57:11,093 --> 00:57:15,213
Speaker 2: to be kind of the dung destination. It used to

1213
00:57:15,253 --> 00:57:16,693
Speaker 2: be the one that you know. It was like, oh,

1214
00:57:16,693 --> 00:57:17,573
Speaker 2: you're going to christ Church?

1215
00:57:17,653 --> 00:57:17,893
Speaker 6: Really?

1216
00:57:17,973 --> 00:57:18,133
Speaker 7: Why?

1217
00:57:18,413 --> 00:57:22,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible you get you'll get cowered, punched by skinhead.

1218
00:57:23,013 --> 00:57:25,613
Speaker 2: That used to be that's the way people used to

1219
00:57:25,653 --> 00:57:27,653
Speaker 2: look at christ Sitch. Now it's now it's the glamour

1220
00:57:27,693 --> 00:57:30,413
Speaker 2: spot to go to. Yeah yeah, which annoys me because

1221
00:57:30,453 --> 00:57:32,053
Speaker 2: I think people should go to a target university.

1222
00:57:32,213 --> 00:57:33,693
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty If your

1223
00:57:33,773 --> 00:57:36,813
Speaker 3: children have decided on Canterbury University, love to hear from

1224
00:57:36,853 --> 00:57:39,573
Speaker 3: you about why they decided on on Canterbury. Over at Tago,

1225
00:57:39,933 --> 00:57:43,533
Speaker 3: it is twenty eight past two headlines with railing coming up.

1226
00:57:43,653 --> 00:57:44,933
Speaker 2: Then we'll take more of your phone calls.

1227
00:57:47,373 --> 00:57:48,173
Speaker 1: Jus talk said.

1228
00:57:48,253 --> 00:57:51,653
Speaker 15: The headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with

1229
00:57:51,773 --> 00:57:55,053
Speaker 15: a blue bubble. The Ministry of Justice says our prison

1230
00:57:55,173 --> 00:57:58,853
Speaker 15: populations projected to increase by thirty six percent in the

1231
00:57:58,933 --> 00:58:02,493
Speaker 15: next decade to have more than fourteen thousand people behind

1232
00:58:02,573 --> 00:58:06,973
Speaker 15: bars by twenty thirty five. Gray district councils working through

1233
00:58:07,053 --> 00:58:10,493
Speaker 15: an almost six million dollar budgeting error after a new

1234
00:58:10,573 --> 00:58:15,373
Speaker 15: team's uncovered financial missteps by predecessors. It's not expected to

1235
00:58:15,453 --> 00:58:20,133
Speaker 15: affect upcoming rate rises, The Campaign for Wool group is

1236
00:58:20,213 --> 00:58:22,933
Speaker 15: crunting the numbers to see if it can make enough carpets.

1237
00:58:23,173 --> 00:58:26,733
Speaker 15: With confirmation new state houses, schools and government buildings will

1238
00:58:26,773 --> 00:58:30,693
Speaker 15: be carpeted in wool. Research published in today's Drug and

1239
00:58:30,773 --> 00:58:35,453
Speaker 15: Alcohol Review Journal shows strategies for stopping smoking could help

1240
00:58:35,613 --> 00:58:40,653
Speaker 15: vapors quit. Auckland hospitals radiology departments getting a makeover with

1241
00:58:40,853 --> 00:58:44,933
Speaker 15: forty one million dollars announced for its first stage. Why

1242
00:58:45,053 --> 00:58:49,333
Speaker 15: the Reserve Bank's lack of transparency erodes its credibility. You

1243
00:58:49,373 --> 00:58:52,413
Speaker 15: can see the full column at Enzied Herald Premium. Back

1244
00:58:52,413 --> 00:58:54,253
Speaker 15: to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1245
00:58:54,533 --> 00:58:55,773
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylan.

1246
00:58:55,813 --> 00:58:59,013
Speaker 3: So we're talking about a story from Stat's New Zealand

1247
00:58:59,013 --> 00:59:00,813
Speaker 3: and it has been spoken about at length. It was

1248
00:59:00,853 --> 00:59:04,933
Speaker 3: on Mike Costkin Show and other a. Kiri mentioned it

1249
00:59:05,013 --> 00:59:07,213
Speaker 3: as well, and we're getting right into it. It's called

1250
00:59:07,293 --> 00:59:11,613
Speaker 3: moving Southwolrth Islanders are upping sticks and droves and leaving

1251
00:59:11,653 --> 00:59:13,133
Speaker 3: the North Island to the South Islands.

1252
00:59:13,213 --> 00:59:15,053
Speaker 2: And Peter rang before and said it's not really a

1253
00:59:15,293 --> 00:59:17,693
Speaker 2: subject at all, and it's not actually happening, and statistics

1254
00:59:17,733 --> 00:59:22,213
Speaker 2: are confusing. It can be funny and you know, when

1255
00:59:22,213 --> 00:59:23,573
Speaker 2: you look at when you drill down it to it,

1256
00:59:23,613 --> 00:59:26,093
Speaker 2: there are interesting but you've got to say that christ Church.

1257
00:59:26,133 --> 00:59:28,413
Speaker 2: So I'm just looking at the population growth in christ Church.

1258
00:59:28,653 --> 00:59:31,853
Speaker 2: And so obviously there was something that happened in two

1259
00:59:31,893 --> 00:59:38,053
Speaker 2: thousand and eleven yep anda, but that the population from

1260
00:59:38,133 --> 00:59:41,173
Speaker 2: twenty twelve it was three hundred and seventy eight thousand.

1261
00:59:41,293 --> 00:59:44,573
Speaker 2: It's now four hundred and ten thousand. So the population

1262
00:59:44,613 --> 00:59:46,613
Speaker 2: of christ Church has gone up quite considerably. There's some

1263
00:59:46,693 --> 00:59:49,493
Speaker 2: people moving there. And look, just looking at the text machine,

1264
00:59:49,493 --> 00:59:51,773
Speaker 2: we're getting dozens and dozens and dozens of texts from

1265
00:59:51,773 --> 00:59:54,453
Speaker 2: people that are saying they've moved from Auckland to christ Church.

1266
00:59:54,573 --> 00:59:58,253
Speaker 2: So whilst Peter points out it might not be quite

1267
00:59:58,293 --> 01:00:00,653
Speaker 2: as big a thing as it's been in this article,

1268
01:00:01,133 --> 01:00:02,333
Speaker 2: it's definitely still.

1269
01:00:02,173 --> 01:00:04,973
Speaker 3: A thing, absolutely, But fifty thousand people are still fifty

1270
01:00:05,013 --> 01:00:07,093
Speaker 3: thousand people. Does it really matter if that includes children?

1271
01:00:07,413 --> 01:00:11,653
Speaker 3: I mean that's still fifty kids. Are people too, Peter.

1272
01:00:12,333 --> 01:00:14,973
Speaker 2: Boys, I know of twenty four Auklanders coming to christ

1273
01:00:15,053 --> 01:00:16,853
Speaker 2: Church for a piece of property.

1274
01:00:17,013 --> 01:00:19,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well that will be a big thing

1275
01:00:19,213 --> 01:00:20,933
Speaker 3: for a lot of people. Is the price is riting

1276
01:00:21,013 --> 01:00:22,973
Speaker 3: christ Church? When you look at housing, you can get

1277
01:00:23,013 --> 01:00:27,413
Speaker 3: a far cheaper home comparable to what you pay up

1278
01:00:27,453 --> 01:00:30,013
Speaker 3: here in Auckland, and that I think for young families

1279
01:00:30,093 --> 01:00:31,173
Speaker 3: is a big part of it, if they can get

1280
01:00:31,173 --> 01:00:31,933
Speaker 3: a good job to boot.

1281
01:00:32,173 --> 01:00:35,413
Speaker 2: I believe I'm listening to your channel. That's an interesting

1282
01:00:35,453 --> 01:00:38,653
Speaker 2: way to start a text. We believe you're listening to

1283
01:00:38,813 --> 01:00:39,493
Speaker 2: We believe in you.

1284
01:00:39,653 --> 01:00:39,893
Speaker 6: Texter.

1285
01:00:40,133 --> 01:00:42,973
Speaker 2: I don't believe you're listening. I just think it's a

1286
01:00:43,013 --> 01:00:45,413
Speaker 2: huge coincidence that your text is on the right topic.

1287
01:00:45,893 --> 01:00:48,253
Speaker 2: I believe I'm listening to your channel. I am a

1288
01:00:48,333 --> 01:00:50,293
Speaker 2: union student from Wellington and I know that two years

1289
01:00:50,293 --> 01:00:52,333
Speaker 2: ago when packing what you need to go to christ

1290
01:00:52,413 --> 01:00:54,333
Speaker 2: Church was that you need to go to everyone wanted

1291
01:00:54,373 --> 01:00:56,573
Speaker 2: to go there. Most people wanted to leave home and

1292
01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:59,653
Speaker 2: be independent. Also there my school had a lot of

1293
01:00:59,733 --> 01:01:02,533
Speaker 2: engineering students in christ Church as where you go for engineering.

1294
01:01:02,653 --> 01:01:05,653
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I definitely, but I definitely have

1295
01:01:05,813 --> 01:01:09,653
Speaker 2: seen a change in christ Church become a glamor destination

1296
01:01:09,853 --> 01:01:12,093
Speaker 2: of the students to go to. It used to be

1297
01:01:12,133 --> 01:01:15,533
Speaker 2: and also used to go there because you just thought

1298
01:01:16,333 --> 01:01:18,533
Speaker 2: that because because the course you wanted to do there,

1299
01:01:18,653 --> 01:01:21,173
Speaker 2: you can get in there or whatever. Yeah, but now people.

1300
01:01:21,493 --> 01:01:24,373
Speaker 2: It's the destination people want to go to for university. Absolutely.

1301
01:01:24,373 --> 01:01:26,013
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1302
01:01:26,013 --> 01:01:28,173
Speaker 3: to call if you've made the move from north to south.

1303
01:01:28,493 --> 01:01:30,533
Speaker 2: Can you hear from you, Josh? You just moved from

1304
01:01:30,533 --> 01:01:32,053
Speaker 2: Hamilton to christ it's three weeks ago.

1305
01:01:33,333 --> 01:01:35,933
Speaker 20: Hells, Yes, I did with my two young children and

1306
01:01:35,973 --> 01:01:39,653
Speaker 20: my wife, and we've actually bought our Alkland celeries so

1307
01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:42,013
Speaker 20: we're both working remotely and we live in a house

1308
01:01:42,053 --> 01:01:45,893
Speaker 20: that is probably beyond what we would have ever dreamed

1309
01:01:45,893 --> 01:01:49,413
Speaker 20: of having lived in an Auckland. And I was listening

1310
01:01:49,453 --> 01:01:50,933
Speaker 20: to your last caller. He said that he moved to

1311
01:01:51,133 --> 01:01:53,533
Speaker 20: or he lives in Pegatus. That's where we are too,

1312
01:01:53,813 --> 01:01:57,693
Speaker 20: and it is it's incredible. It really is a beautiful

1313
01:01:58,213 --> 01:02:01,413
Speaker 20: like part of New Zealand. It's a dream, it's a dream.

1314
01:02:01,533 --> 01:02:03,333
Speaker 2: What's what's the population of Pegasus?

1315
01:02:04,373 --> 01:02:07,293
Speaker 20: I have no clue, but it's not many. At the

1316
01:02:07,373 --> 01:02:09,893
Speaker 20: real estate agent with the who sold us the house

1317
01:02:09,973 --> 01:02:12,373
Speaker 20: of the ex principle at the school and everyone that

1318
01:02:12,453 --> 01:02:14,773
Speaker 20: I know that that works here, as you know, they're

1319
01:02:14,813 --> 01:02:16,973
Speaker 20: all connected. Everyone seems to know each other. So it's

1320
01:02:16,973 --> 01:02:19,373
Speaker 20: a completely different vibe to where we used to live

1321
01:02:19,493 --> 01:02:20,013
Speaker 20: from memory.

1322
01:02:20,053 --> 01:02:21,733
Speaker 3: And I might get this wrong, but when the development

1323
01:02:21,853 --> 01:02:26,973
Speaker 3: was first floated, I believe it was approximately five hundred homes,

1324
01:02:27,013 --> 01:02:29,413
Speaker 3: so it's probably around sort of five thousand, six thousand.

1325
01:02:29,453 --> 01:02:30,973
Speaker 2: That looks because it's just looking at it now. It

1326
01:02:31,053 --> 01:02:33,213
Speaker 2: was as four thousand, one hundred and seventy in June

1327
01:02:33,453 --> 01:02:37,213
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. But they're looking the population is expected

1328
01:02:37,293 --> 01:02:41,413
Speaker 2: to balloon to six thousand people in the next few years.

1329
01:02:42,053 --> 01:02:44,293
Speaker 2: So here's a text that I want to read out

1330
01:02:44,373 --> 01:02:48,213
Speaker 2: to you if you don't mind there. Josh, guys just

1331
01:02:48,293 --> 01:02:52,493
Speaker 2: looked at Pegasus and it's a controlled living space, rules, unregulated,

1332
01:02:52,893 --> 01:02:56,533
Speaker 2: undrigister's cars, lawn lengths not for me, Craig, is that true?

1333
01:02:56,693 --> 01:02:57,573
Speaker 6: What the stesus is?

1334
01:02:58,893 --> 01:02:59,373
Speaker 7: I don't see.

1335
01:02:59,373 --> 01:03:01,813
Speaker 20: That was part of the reason that druety you can't

1336
01:03:01,853 --> 01:03:04,693
Speaker 20: have pitballs, you can't have well. But the reality of that,

1337
01:03:04,893 --> 01:03:07,413
Speaker 20: the reality of that is that they don't that is

1338
01:03:07,493 --> 01:03:10,693
Speaker 20: what it used to be. Apparently they don't actually enforce

1339
01:03:10,733 --> 01:03:12,213
Speaker 20: any of that. So yeah, you have to have like

1340
01:03:12,293 --> 01:03:13,973
Speaker 20: your grass cut to a certain lengths and.

1341
01:03:15,453 --> 01:03:17,293
Speaker 3: On certain days that was it was a big thing

1342
01:03:17,333 --> 01:03:20,813
Speaker 3: with the covenants with the previous developer was very.

1343
01:03:20,733 --> 01:03:23,973
Speaker 20: Controversial and coming from Hamilton, that kind of appealed to

1344
01:03:24,093 --> 01:03:25,693
Speaker 20: us because we were like, well, you know, we lived

1345
01:03:25,733 --> 01:03:27,333
Speaker 20: next to a place that used to breed footballs and

1346
01:03:27,413 --> 01:03:29,773
Speaker 20: that you know, couldn't walk out ficture school, so it

1347
01:03:29,893 --> 01:03:31,893
Speaker 20: kind of appeals. But yeah, the reality is that that's

1348
01:03:32,373 --> 01:03:35,853
Speaker 20: that it's not true, Like I mean, it's written on paper,

1349
01:03:35,933 --> 01:03:38,773
Speaker 20: but it's not enforced. So we've we've been plenty of

1350
01:03:39,093 --> 01:03:43,213
Speaker 20: of you know, places that are living outside of those covenants.

1351
01:03:44,013 --> 01:03:46,693
Speaker 20: But it's perfinitely fine and kind of.

1352
01:03:49,453 --> 01:03:51,773
Speaker 2: What's the community vibe? Do you get to know your neighbors?

1353
01:03:51,933 --> 01:03:53,093
Speaker 2: Is there that element to it?

1354
01:03:53,253 --> 01:03:57,133
Speaker 20: Pegasus, Oh, it's crazy, so that the first day we

1355
01:03:57,213 --> 01:03:59,053
Speaker 20: were down here, it was like, I don't know, and

1356
01:03:59,453 --> 01:04:01,133
Speaker 20: I guess this doesn't appeal to a lot of people,

1357
01:04:01,173 --> 01:04:03,013
Speaker 20: but being a young family, it was perfect for us.

1358
01:04:03,293 --> 01:04:06,053
Speaker 20: It was like, you know where you watch American movies

1359
01:04:06,093 --> 01:04:08,453
Speaker 20: and they live in suburbia. You moved to Mayport. All

1360
01:04:08,493 --> 01:04:10,693
Speaker 20: the neighbors come out and knocking your door and produce themselves.

1361
01:04:10,893 --> 01:04:14,213
Speaker 20: Everyone did that of course, like everyone come over. We

1362
01:04:14,373 --> 01:04:16,253
Speaker 20: had a young girl who looks down the street who

1363
01:04:16,333 --> 01:04:18,533
Speaker 20: just kind of invited her stuff over and we're playing

1364
01:04:18,533 --> 01:04:20,333
Speaker 20: with our two girls on the first day we were here.

1365
01:04:21,133 --> 01:04:21,853
Speaker 1: Where where are we?

1366
01:04:22,773 --> 01:04:26,693
Speaker 20: It really is physical, you know, I guess it's it

1367
01:04:26,693 --> 01:04:29,733
Speaker 20: wouldn't appeal that much to you know, maybe teenagers or

1368
01:04:30,493 --> 01:04:33,373
Speaker 20: young professional couple, but for a young family, I couldn't.

1369
01:04:33,413 --> 01:04:35,013
Speaker 20: I couldn't dream of a bit of place.

1370
01:04:35,133 --> 01:04:36,853
Speaker 2: Could they clean out the lakes so you can actually

1371
01:04:36,933 --> 01:04:38,813
Speaker 2: go swimming in it and such?

1372
01:04:40,053 --> 01:04:40,253
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1373
01:04:40,293 --> 01:04:43,653
Speaker 20: So when we first got here, which like I think

1374
01:04:43,693 --> 01:04:46,653
Speaker 20: we've been here just over a months now, When we

1375
01:04:46,733 --> 01:04:50,573
Speaker 20: first got here, yeah, the lake had the algae apparently.

1376
01:04:50,733 --> 01:04:53,293
Speaker 20: I saw a commune message saying that it's cleared up now.

1377
01:04:54,653 --> 01:04:56,933
Speaker 20: They meant to have used to have the swimming comps

1378
01:04:56,973 --> 01:05:00,013
Speaker 20: and all sorts of stuff on the lake. I know

1379
01:05:00,133 --> 01:05:01,373
Speaker 20: that that's all kind of stopped now.

1380
01:05:01,373 --> 01:05:01,773
Speaker 7: They've got the.

1381
01:05:01,773 --> 01:05:03,453
Speaker 20: Remote control you know, the old fellows out there with

1382
01:05:03,493 --> 01:05:06,733
Speaker 20: their remote control boats. But I don't know, I don't

1383
01:05:06,733 --> 01:05:09,573
Speaker 20: see anyone using like as when. So we'll see what

1384
01:05:09,613 --> 01:05:12,173
Speaker 20: happens this summer with you know, none of the signs

1385
01:05:12,213 --> 01:05:14,133
Speaker 20: are up about the the old you might, I don't

1386
01:05:14,173 --> 01:05:16,373
Speaker 20: see them about. So we'll see if people start using

1387
01:05:16,413 --> 01:05:16,733
Speaker 20: it again.

1388
01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:17,773
Speaker 7: It'll be awesome if they do it.

1389
01:05:17,813 --> 01:05:25,093
Speaker 2: But the beaches yeah, and Josh, finally, so the temperature

1390
01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:25,813
Speaker 2: isn't a problem for you.

1391
01:05:27,653 --> 01:05:30,093
Speaker 20: Well that the house is a bit done here, you know,

1392
01:05:30,533 --> 01:05:33,533
Speaker 20: the boots for snow, the bolts for the and they're

1393
01:05:33,533 --> 01:05:36,173
Speaker 20: all feeling feeling new, like we live in stage eleven

1394
01:05:36,293 --> 01:05:39,093
Speaker 20: of the biggestest development.

1395
01:05:39,173 --> 01:05:39,613
Speaker 5: So that.

1396
01:05:46,013 --> 01:05:49,413
Speaker 2: It sounds like some kind of sci fi special settlement.

1397
01:05:49,573 --> 01:05:49,813
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1398
01:05:49,893 --> 01:05:50,093
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1399
01:05:50,133 --> 01:05:52,573
Speaker 20: Everyone just gets around on a winged horses, you know,

1400
01:05:53,173 --> 01:05:56,013
Speaker 20: salutes each other, it comes and introduces themselves.

1401
01:05:56,013 --> 01:05:56,653
Speaker 7: Are very strange.

1402
01:05:57,493 --> 01:06:00,173
Speaker 20: But yeah, no, so it is a phenomenal place. And

1403
01:06:00,533 --> 01:06:03,613
Speaker 20: you're talking about the development over in Ravens would you're

1404
01:06:03,613 --> 01:06:05,333
Speaker 20: pretty much going to have everything you need on your

1405
01:06:05,373 --> 01:06:07,333
Speaker 20: doorstep and then you walk to the beach and you're

1406
01:06:07,373 --> 01:06:08,253
Speaker 20: looking at snow ketum.

1407
01:06:08,613 --> 01:06:12,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant. What want you're selling it? Jo cheers Josh.

1408
01:06:13,613 --> 01:06:16,373
Speaker 2: The twenty four Aucklanders are the Blues. The property they

1409
01:06:16,413 --> 01:06:19,773
Speaker 2: want is the super Rugby shield. I get it now,

1410
01:06:19,933 --> 01:06:23,093
Speaker 2: we're with you, thanks, Dave. I totally messed up your

1411
01:06:23,293 --> 01:06:26,493
Speaker 2: text before, so I read at the text I thought

1412
01:06:26,533 --> 01:06:29,733
Speaker 2: they were trying to buy property, but no, Matt. The

1413
01:06:29,773 --> 01:06:33,053
Speaker 2: twenty four Aucklanders heading to christ Church are the Blues.

1414
01:06:33,093 --> 01:06:35,533
Speaker 2: The property they want is the Super Rugby Shield. Yeah,

1415
01:06:35,893 --> 01:06:39,413
Speaker 2: very well, I'll tell you what. Crusaders fans don't want

1416
01:06:39,413 --> 01:06:41,733
Speaker 2: to hear this, But you know, a record like thirty

1417
01:06:41,813 --> 01:06:44,653
Speaker 2: and oh, it's there to be broken. I can't last,

1418
01:06:45,133 --> 01:06:48,053
Speaker 2: l I can't last for hon Come on, Blues, this game.

1419
01:06:48,013 --> 01:06:49,693
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred if you want to respond to that,

1420
01:06:49,893 --> 01:06:51,533
Speaker 3: can damn by e one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1421
01:06:51,573 --> 01:06:53,813
Speaker 3: But also if you've made the move from the North

1422
01:06:53,853 --> 01:06:56,093
Speaker 3: Island to the South Island, why and how's it going?

1423
01:06:56,293 --> 01:06:56,453
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1424
01:06:56,573 --> 01:06:58,733
Speaker 2: And look if I butcher your text like I did Todave,

1425
01:06:58,853 --> 01:07:01,653
Speaker 2: then you know, make sure you inform me. Yeah, just

1426
01:07:01,773 --> 01:07:03,813
Speaker 2: keep texting three. He'll get it right. Eventually. I can

1427
01:07:03,893 --> 01:07:05,213
Speaker 2: barely read twenty to three.

1428
01:07:06,413 --> 01:07:11,093
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads, Mad Heathen, Taylor Adams

1429
01:07:11,213 --> 01:07:14,293
Speaker 1: afternoons news talk'd be afternoon.

1430
01:07:14,453 --> 01:07:17,373
Speaker 2: It is eighteen to three, mother, ego, this has descended

1431
01:07:17,453 --> 01:07:21,213
Speaker 2: into abuse now that I said that the Crusaders thirty

1432
01:07:21,253 --> 01:07:24,933
Speaker 2: and O's at rescue. No one thought the Blues could

1433
01:07:24,933 --> 01:07:28,253
Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs, and then what happened. Ain's got to happen. Yeah,

1434
01:07:28,253 --> 01:07:30,173
Speaker 2: I mean, strangely, the Chiefs are still going through an

1435
01:07:30,213 --> 01:07:33,133
Speaker 2: anomaly of a system in Super rugby where it's somehow

1436
01:07:33,173 --> 01:07:36,893
Speaker 2: they've managed to make the finals incredibly confusing. But the

1437
01:07:37,013 --> 01:07:39,973
Speaker 2: Crusaders and the Blues, there's a lot of pressure keeping

1438
01:07:40,053 --> 01:07:41,773
Speaker 2: your record up, a lot of pressure.

1439
01:07:41,813 --> 01:07:44,013
Speaker 3: There's a lot of sensitivity around there. To be honest, man,

1440
01:07:44,053 --> 01:07:46,133
Speaker 3: you know, Blues have no chance. Too cold for them

1441
01:07:46,613 --> 01:07:47,893
Speaker 3: telling me he's dreaming that you.

1442
01:07:48,133 --> 01:07:50,493
Speaker 2: They've got the boxes packed at the stadium. They're moving out,

1443
01:07:50,733 --> 01:07:55,573
Speaker 2: you know, mate, Yeah, there you go, boy. Yes, a

1444
01:07:55,573 --> 01:07:57,453
Speaker 2: lot of abuse. Hey, so Pegasus, there's a lot of

1445
01:07:57,493 --> 01:08:01,093
Speaker 2: pushback on Piggus. Piggisus sounds a lot like the Truman Show. Accurate.

1446
01:08:01,333 --> 01:08:04,813
Speaker 2: At what stage does Pleasantville turn into fall out humanity

1447
01:08:04,893 --> 01:08:08,773
Speaker 2: in Bunkers. The write up on Pegasus says no strange

1448
01:08:08,813 --> 01:08:11,213
Speaker 2: sounds or smells all out. Yeah, I could see that.

1449
01:08:11,493 --> 01:08:14,813
Speaker 2: I mean it is look biggest, This is a strange place.

1450
01:08:14,973 --> 01:08:16,973
Speaker 2: Is it a keys in the ball situation? I think

1451
01:08:16,973 --> 01:08:18,692
Speaker 2: they have a few fond new parties from time to time,

1452
01:08:18,773 --> 01:08:23,173
Speaker 2: but because it's a bit of swinging and not just

1453
01:08:23,253 --> 01:08:25,732
Speaker 2: the Gulf Mike, welcome to the show.

1454
01:08:26,853 --> 01:08:27,972
Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going boys?

1455
01:08:28,173 --> 01:08:28,612
Speaker 2: Very good?

1456
01:08:29,973 --> 01:08:34,492
Speaker 17: Awesome, awesome, A good chat about moving down. Just keep

1457
01:08:34,532 --> 01:08:36,772
Speaker 17: it on the QT though, don't let everybody come down here.

1458
01:08:37,013 --> 01:08:37,532
Speaker 8: It's too good.

1459
01:08:38,173 --> 01:08:40,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we're about to you are you in christ

1460
01:08:40,692 --> 01:08:42,292
Speaker 2: Future a little bit further south.

1461
01:08:43,133 --> 01:08:44,213
Speaker 17: Now we're in Queenstown.

1462
01:08:44,293 --> 01:08:44,492
Speaker 14: Mate.

1463
01:08:44,532 --> 01:08:46,812
Speaker 17: We lived down here about two years ago.

1464
01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:48,572
Speaker 7: My daughter.

1465
01:08:48,772 --> 01:08:51,213
Speaker 17: My daughter had decided she'd be quite good at ski racing,

1466
01:08:51,333 --> 01:08:53,652
Speaker 17: so we made the move and packed up a little

1467
01:08:53,732 --> 01:08:56,452
Speaker 17: U haul and you know, dragged it all down the

1468
01:08:56,532 --> 01:08:59,652
Speaker 17: island and set up here. And I was here about

1469
01:08:59,692 --> 01:09:01,452
Speaker 17: two weeks and I basically said to my partner and

1470
01:09:01,532 --> 01:09:04,213
Speaker 17: wever leaving. It's just phenomenal.

1471
01:09:04,452 --> 01:09:07,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Queenstown is a stunningly beautiful place.

1472
01:09:08,053 --> 01:09:11,852
Speaker 3: Is it starting to get a little bit crazy now

1473
01:09:11,933 --> 01:09:13,492
Speaker 3: that you know the last one was down there?

1474
01:09:14,013 --> 01:09:16,013
Speaker 2: I love it a little bit crazy? Yeah, it's so.

1475
01:09:16,173 --> 01:09:19,652
Speaker 3: Busy, it's so the traffic in Queenstown blew my mind.

1476
01:09:19,732 --> 01:09:22,973
Speaker 3: How how mental that was from Frankdin to the to

1477
01:09:23,093 --> 01:09:25,772
Speaker 3: the township. Is does that starting to get to the locals?

1478
01:09:27,013 --> 01:09:29,053
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's a tight kind of I mean there's a

1479
01:09:29,053 --> 01:09:30,812
Speaker 17: whole bit. You know, there's a lot of work going

1480
01:09:30,853 --> 01:09:32,492
Speaker 17: on at the sink of the underbout at the moment.

1481
01:09:32,652 --> 01:09:35,652
Speaker 17: But we've just had the submissions put in for the

1482
01:09:36,253 --> 01:09:39,612
Speaker 17: gondola that'll take us from town. That would be through

1483
01:09:39,933 --> 01:09:42,852
Speaker 17: the back of Arthur's Point to Late Hays.

1484
01:09:43,372 --> 01:09:45,293
Speaker 6: That would be to stand out to the airport.

1485
01:09:45,612 --> 01:09:48,772
Speaker 2: That would be amazing. What are the chances that are happening, Mike,

1486
01:09:48,812 --> 01:09:50,052
Speaker 2: do do you think that's realistic?

1487
01:09:51,053 --> 01:09:53,213
Speaker 17: Doude? They reckon it's going to happen by twenty twenty eight.

1488
01:09:53,452 --> 01:09:54,812
Speaker 7: We're only talking about three years and.

1489
01:09:54,812 --> 01:09:55,772
Speaker 6: It's going to be up and running.

1490
01:09:55,933 --> 01:10:00,612
Speaker 17: I mean the ultimately it'll connect up to Coronet Station

1491
01:10:00,812 --> 01:10:03,532
Speaker 17: Road and there's one rod drury Zo one up to Coronet.

1492
01:10:05,213 --> 01:10:07,213
Speaker 17: It'll be a straight shot straight to the top of

1493
01:10:07,213 --> 01:10:07,772
Speaker 17: the remarks.

1494
01:10:08,053 --> 01:10:11,772
Speaker 2: So would where would it leave from in downtown Queenstown?

1495
01:10:11,812 --> 01:10:13,973
Speaker 2: Would it leave from downtown Queenstown and head over to

1496
01:10:15,213 --> 01:10:17,612
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to work out at this point Arthur's Point.

1497
01:10:17,612 --> 01:10:21,372
Speaker 17: Right and then across to Coronet and then across Dale

1498
01:10:21,412 --> 01:10:24,213
Speaker 17: Field to Lake Haste.

1499
01:10:24,572 --> 01:10:27,253
Speaker 2: Wow, that would that that I hope that happens. That'll

1500
01:10:27,293 --> 01:10:30,053
Speaker 2: be that'll be crazy. That'll be that'll I mean make

1501
01:10:30,253 --> 01:10:32,493
Speaker 2: queens down even and even more incredible.

1502
01:10:33,412 --> 01:10:35,492
Speaker 17: It's going to be wicked. But I mean everything down

1503
01:10:35,532 --> 01:10:39,772
Speaker 17: here is just so much easier, calmer, relaxed, you know,

1504
01:10:40,053 --> 01:10:43,213
Speaker 17: people just chill. It's just South Islanders, you know, they

1505
01:10:43,372 --> 01:10:47,852
Speaker 17: just it's funny. You know people think when you think

1506
01:10:47,893 --> 01:10:51,253
Speaker 17: that everybody's out as the bomba. The bottom line is

1507
01:10:51,293 --> 01:10:54,732
Speaker 17: everybody ouse as the bombay the bomb base. Doesn't even

1508
01:10:54,772 --> 01:10:58,732
Speaker 17: think about you. We're all too busy just doing their

1509
01:10:58,772 --> 01:10:59,213
Speaker 17: own stuff.

1510
01:10:59,293 --> 01:11:02,053
Speaker 3: It's brilliant, yeah, and what you can do, you know,

1511
01:11:02,093 --> 01:11:03,692
Speaker 3: I know this get set again and again with the

1512
01:11:03,732 --> 01:11:06,692
Speaker 3: South Island. But the the adventure side of things, you know,

1513
01:11:06,772 --> 01:11:10,492
Speaker 3: the mountain biking, the ski yean surfing's a little bit

1514
01:11:10,532 --> 01:11:12,652
Speaker 3: harder and Queenstown at the moment, but you know, those

1515
01:11:12,732 --> 01:11:15,652
Speaker 3: aspects very easy to get to and a lot of

1516
01:11:15,692 --> 01:11:17,733
Speaker 3: appeal for people in the North Island.

1517
01:11:18,933 --> 01:11:19,412
Speaker 7: Very much so.

1518
01:11:19,652 --> 01:11:23,213
Speaker 17: And like, you know, everything's different, like even setling, Like

1519
01:11:23,333 --> 01:11:26,333
Speaker 17: people have got no qualms about jumping in a car

1520
01:11:26,452 --> 01:11:29,133
Speaker 17: and driving five hours to queens to christ Church for

1521
01:11:29,253 --> 01:11:32,372
Speaker 17: the date. You know, the idea of moving around the

1522
01:11:32,412 --> 01:11:35,053
Speaker 17: North Island seems to be like art, whereas here you

1523
01:11:35,213 --> 01:11:37,412
Speaker 17: just get on and do it. Yeah, and you get

1524
01:11:37,492 --> 01:11:40,452
Speaker 17: these beautiful drives like Queenstown to cross Church. It has

1525
01:11:40,532 --> 01:11:42,492
Speaker 17: got to be one of the one of the most

1526
01:11:42,532 --> 01:11:45,692
Speaker 17: beautiful drives in the world up through the mckens would

1527
01:11:45,692 --> 01:11:47,293
Speaker 17: come to It's just stunny.

1528
01:11:47,893 --> 01:11:50,892
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, Mike, thank you very much for giving us

1529
01:11:50,893 --> 01:11:54,652
Speaker 3: a buzz. You live in paradise, but enjoying chat again soon.

1530
01:11:56,812 --> 01:11:57,012
Speaker 7: See.

1531
01:11:58,572 --> 01:12:01,093
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to work at where this gondola would go,

1532
01:12:01,333 --> 01:12:05,213
Speaker 2: this new gondler because good to hear, Rob Jury has

1533
01:12:05,253 --> 01:12:07,492
Speaker 2: got sense to me that it would go to Arthur's Point,

1534
01:12:07,772 --> 01:12:10,692
Speaker 2: I mean jack Point, because someone can someone ring up

1535
01:12:10,732 --> 01:12:12,732
Speaker 2: and tell me one hundred and eighty ten eighty or

1536
01:12:12,812 --> 01:12:15,652
Speaker 2: nine two nine two, because because it makes sense for

1537
01:12:15,652 --> 01:12:18,172
Speaker 2: it to go out to Franklin, out to the airport.

1538
01:12:19,093 --> 01:12:21,412
Speaker 2: But and then yeah, anyway, let's work it out there. Yeh,

1539
01:12:21,452 --> 01:12:23,772
Speaker 2: we'll find some more elation if you're evolved. I love

1540
01:12:23,812 --> 01:12:27,572
Speaker 2: a gondola. Yeah, the Barcelona gondola. Didn't they have an

1541
01:12:27,572 --> 01:12:30,093
Speaker 2: accident recently? Many people? Can you fit in there? We

1542
01:12:30,213 --> 01:12:32,732
Speaker 2: need gondlers everywhere we do get rid of trains. Yeah,

1543
01:12:32,732 --> 01:12:36,372
Speaker 2: imagine if you know we spent six billion dollars on

1544
01:12:36,572 --> 01:12:39,973
Speaker 2: this city, this city, city rail Link and Awkland. We

1545
01:12:40,053 --> 01:12:42,253
Speaker 2: should have just put up gondolas everywhere. Oh imagine that.

1546
01:12:43,173 --> 01:12:46,093
Speaker 2: What about a horizontal bungee to the airport for younger people.

1547
01:12:46,133 --> 01:12:48,452
Speaker 2: I'd take it, I'd use it absolutely. Now you're thinking

1548
01:12:50,133 --> 01:12:52,213
Speaker 2: Queenstown is a place to be, we've moved back after

1549
01:12:52,253 --> 01:12:55,652
Speaker 2: twenty five years. Really go into Queenstown, live it Hanley's farm.

1550
01:12:55,732 --> 01:12:58,053
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Blessings that's from Ann.

1551
01:12:58,293 --> 01:12:58,492
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1552
01:12:58,893 --> 01:13:00,773
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're lucky enough to live in Queenstown,

1553
01:13:00,853 --> 01:13:05,532
Speaker 2: that is a phenomenal paradise. It's not one of those

1554
01:13:05,532 --> 01:13:09,372
Speaker 2: situations where you're moving from the North Island or Auckland

1555
01:13:09,492 --> 01:13:12,572
Speaker 2: and then getting much change on your house sale. Yeah,

1556
01:13:12,692 --> 01:13:15,293
Speaker 2: you know you're going like for like or more. Yeah,

1557
01:13:15,372 --> 01:13:18,253
Speaker 2: probably spot on new Mia. Have I seen that?

1558
01:13:18,372 --> 01:13:18,492
Speaker 7: Right?

1559
01:13:20,053 --> 01:13:21,893
Speaker 2: This great name. Nice to chat with you.

1560
01:13:24,093 --> 01:13:24,372
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1561
01:13:24,692 --> 01:13:26,253
Speaker 2: So you you with the other way?

1562
01:13:26,333 --> 01:13:28,973
Speaker 3: Did you you you lived in Dunedin and decided you

1563
01:13:29,013 --> 01:13:30,692
Speaker 3: wanted a little bit more warmed in your life.

1564
01:13:32,692 --> 01:13:35,052
Speaker 7: Yeah, well not warmed.

1565
01:13:35,333 --> 01:13:39,293
Speaker 22: I got used to the weather in Canadian but mainly

1566
01:13:41,372 --> 01:13:44,652
Speaker 22: you know, looking for more opportunities for the family, right

1567
01:13:44,772 --> 01:13:48,572
Speaker 22: we lived there more whale and you haven't got you know,

1568
01:13:48,812 --> 01:13:49,692
Speaker 22: moving forward as.

1569
01:13:51,333 --> 01:13:54,093
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah it should be. And how you find

1570
01:13:54,133 --> 01:13:56,412
Speaker 2: in Auckland. Has it been all that you hoped for?

1571
01:13:56,572 --> 01:13:58,612
Speaker 2: Did you find opportunities up here as it worked out?

1572
01:13:59,893 --> 01:14:00,133
Speaker 7: Yes?

1573
01:14:00,692 --> 01:14:04,612
Speaker 22: Yes, quite a few in some areas. In some areas,

1574
01:14:05,412 --> 01:14:09,452
Speaker 22: we move up here because of business opportunity. And yeah,

1575
01:14:10,412 --> 01:14:14,173
Speaker 22: when we arrived here in twenty eighteen, we we found

1576
01:14:14,213 --> 01:14:18,973
Speaker 22: out that the competition's a a bit expensive. But we

1577
01:14:19,692 --> 01:14:23,852
Speaker 22: suspected that and put the plan on hold and went

1578
01:14:23,933 --> 01:14:24,452
Speaker 22: back to work.

1579
01:14:25,452 --> 01:14:27,172
Speaker 2: And what do you do for a job? Numaya?

1580
01:14:30,692 --> 01:14:31,452
Speaker 7: Right now, I'm.

1581
01:14:31,333 --> 01:14:39,852
Speaker 22: Self employed running a small food business. But yeah, after

1582
01:14:40,093 --> 01:14:44,652
Speaker 22: COVID I become self employed again. But before that, I

1583
01:14:45,093 --> 01:14:48,052
Speaker 22: was working in the construction.

1584
01:14:50,013 --> 01:14:50,213
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1585
01:14:50,732 --> 01:14:52,812
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it is that's a big poll for

1586
01:14:52,853 --> 01:14:54,612
Speaker 3: a lot of people in the South traditionally, is that

1587
01:14:54,692 --> 01:14:56,612
Speaker 3: the opportunities were up here in Auckland. And that's what

1588
01:14:56,772 --> 01:14:58,452
Speaker 3: got me up here, that's what got you up here.

1589
01:14:58,532 --> 01:15:00,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I left Unedan because I wanted to

1590
01:15:00,372 --> 01:15:02,013
Speaker 2: be involved in film and television and there was a

1591
01:15:02,013 --> 01:15:04,333
Speaker 2: lot more of it happening in Auckland than there was

1592
01:15:04,492 --> 01:15:08,253
Speaker 2: down in Dunedin. Yeah, both had made too many animations.

1593
01:15:08,412 --> 01:15:10,732
Speaker 2: It was basically run out of town. Okay, So our

1594
01:15:10,812 --> 01:15:13,652
Speaker 2: plans for Queenstown Gondola. Thank you to this texta that's

1595
01:15:13,652 --> 01:15:17,492
Speaker 2: sent through these plans, our plans. Who was that, Mike? Yeah,

1596
01:15:17,772 --> 01:15:20,052
Speaker 2: our plans for Queenstown Gondola could be submitted to Council

1597
01:15:20,133 --> 01:15:22,612
Speaker 2: later this year, with the first stage opening in late

1598
01:15:22,692 --> 01:15:26,173
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. How cool Southern Infrastructure and Dopplemine, New

1599
01:15:26,253 --> 01:15:29,572
Speaker 2: Zealand designing a Queenstown cable car could transport up to

1600
01:15:29,652 --> 01:15:33,572
Speaker 2: three thousand passengers per hour per direction. Stage one would

1601
01:15:33,572 --> 01:15:37,253
Speaker 2: connect downtown Queenstown to Frankton Queenstown Airport, with cabins departing

1602
01:15:37,253 --> 01:15:40,852
Speaker 2: every twelve seconds on the fully electric, zero emissions service.

1603
01:15:41,612 --> 01:15:46,293
Speaker 2: Construction could begin in twenty early twenty twenty seven. Fantastic.

1604
01:15:46,532 --> 01:15:49,892
Speaker 2: So that is that would be so cool? That would

1605
01:15:49,893 --> 01:15:53,173
Speaker 2: be amazing. So cool you fly into Queenstown and then

1606
01:15:53,213 --> 01:15:55,532
Speaker 2: you jump on a gondola and it will take you

1607
01:15:55,772 --> 01:15:57,812
Speaker 2: right into town two years away. I mean, that's not

1608
01:15:57,893 --> 01:15:59,572
Speaker 2: pie in the sky, is it? That sounds like it.

1609
01:16:00,173 --> 01:16:03,772
Speaker 2: It's got real potential, but all kinds of muppets be

1610
01:16:03,853 --> 01:16:07,932
Speaker 2: complaining about it, like the McDonald's and Monica. While people

1611
01:16:07,973 --> 01:16:09,933
Speaker 2: can play about what the gondola.

1612
01:16:09,572 --> 01:16:12,213
Speaker 3: Looks like on the skyline, please Queenstown just say yes

1613
01:16:12,293 --> 01:16:13,492
Speaker 3: to the gondola will be amazing.

1614
01:16:13,652 --> 01:16:15,572
Speaker 2: Queenstown and the wide es Central Tiger is one big

1615
01:16:15,652 --> 01:16:22,412
Speaker 2: retirement home for snobby Twats says this Texter. Wow, thank

1616
01:16:22,452 --> 01:16:23,213
Speaker 2: you very much for that.

1617
01:16:23,772 --> 01:16:25,732
Speaker 3: Right, we've better play some messages and then we'll come

1618
01:16:25,772 --> 01:16:26,972
Speaker 3: back with a few more calls.

1619
01:16:27,452 --> 01:16:30,333
Speaker 2: Texas has Queenstown as a poopole. Okay, thank you very much.

1620
01:16:30,692 --> 01:16:33,132
Speaker 2: Keep your feedback coming. Eight to three.

1621
01:16:34,412 --> 01:16:36,772
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1622
01:16:36,853 --> 01:16:40,772
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

1623
01:16:41,013 --> 01:16:48,213
Speaker 2: Be it is six two three. This text here doesn't

1624
01:16:48,213 --> 01:16:52,532
Speaker 2: believe us about the gondolas in Queenstown twenty twenty seven.

1625
01:16:52,572 --> 01:16:52,812
Speaker 6: Sorry.

1626
01:16:52,853 --> 01:16:55,333
Speaker 2: By twenty twenty seven, Earth AI will join the Galactic

1627
01:16:55,452 --> 01:16:58,293
Speaker 2: Federation of Sentient Ai and be advised to keep us

1628
01:16:58,492 --> 01:17:01,852
Speaker 2: as pets. Yeah maybe, yeah, yeah, maybe I beck us

1629
01:17:01,893 --> 01:17:05,053
Speaker 2: to get in the gondolad done before then, Darryl, you

1630
01:17:05,213 --> 01:17:06,532
Speaker 2: move from Auckland Nstown.

1631
01:17:07,492 --> 01:17:09,412
Speaker 23: Yeah, Hi guys, Yeah, we moved about a year and

1632
01:17:09,412 --> 01:17:12,052
Speaker 23: a half ago and wouldn't look back to be honest,

1633
01:17:12,893 --> 01:17:19,053
Speaker 23: absolutely love it, love the scheme. Really got into mountain biking, hiking. Yeah,

1634
01:17:19,093 --> 01:17:19,893
Speaker 23: it's everything about it.

1635
01:17:19,973 --> 01:17:20,333
Speaker 7: We love.

1636
01:17:20,772 --> 01:17:22,732
Speaker 23: It's an amazing place to live.

1637
01:17:23,053 --> 01:17:25,692
Speaker 2: You don't feel like the mountains are closing.

1638
01:17:25,412 --> 01:17:28,293
Speaker 7: In on you? No, definitely not.

1639
01:17:28,372 --> 01:17:29,532
Speaker 23: But I do love the mountains.

1640
01:17:29,572 --> 01:17:30,732
Speaker 6: But you know, we left Auckland.

1641
01:17:30,933 --> 01:17:33,013
Speaker 23: I was spending an hour and a half each way

1642
01:17:33,053 --> 01:17:36,892
Speaker 23: to work every day, so fifteen hours a week traveling, muteing,

1643
01:17:37,612 --> 01:17:38,532
Speaker 23: and it was killing us.

1644
01:17:38,853 --> 01:17:41,772
Speaker 2: If you don't mind me asking was if you did

1645
01:17:41,812 --> 01:17:45,093
Speaker 2: you sell up your property in Auckland, and if so,

1646
01:17:45,492 --> 01:17:48,412
Speaker 2: was it a comp comparatible purchase down in Queenstown.

1647
01:17:49,532 --> 01:17:52,293
Speaker 23: Yeah, we did sell a relatively expensive property in Auckland.

1648
01:17:52,333 --> 01:17:54,012
Speaker 23: We saved a bit of money going to a smaller

1649
01:17:54,013 --> 01:17:55,013
Speaker 23: property in Queenstown.

1650
01:17:55,692 --> 01:17:57,532
Speaker 8: But we still spend quite a.

1651
01:17:57,532 --> 01:18:00,053
Speaker 23: Bit of time in Auckland anyway for work, so we're

1652
01:18:00,093 --> 01:18:01,572
Speaker 23: back and forth a lot. We kind of have the

1653
01:18:01,652 --> 01:18:04,852
Speaker 23: best of both worlds because we don't have to, you know, deal.

1654
01:18:04,732 --> 01:18:06,213
Speaker 8: With living in Auckland.

1655
01:18:06,253 --> 01:18:08,253
Speaker 23: Pain rates in Auckland, but we get to live in

1656
01:18:08,412 --> 01:18:09,372
Speaker 23: Queenstown permanently.

1657
01:18:09,452 --> 01:18:12,253
Speaker 3: So that's great, fantastic and why we've only got about

1658
01:18:12,253 --> 01:18:15,132
Speaker 3: forty seconds. But why Queenstown over say the likes of christ.

1659
01:18:15,013 --> 01:18:19,372
Speaker 23: Juche don't know, really, I mean, I do like it

1660
01:18:19,412 --> 01:18:22,652
Speaker 23: because it's a smaller place, and yet people complain about

1661
01:18:22,652 --> 01:18:24,492
Speaker 23: the traffic, But the reality is a lot of the

1662
01:18:24,572 --> 01:18:27,732
Speaker 23: time that traffic from Franktin. You know, from the airport

1663
01:18:27,772 --> 01:18:30,972
Speaker 23: through to Franklin it's about a four minute delay. Yeah,

1664
01:18:31,333 --> 01:18:33,452
Speaker 23: it doesn't seem like you should have any delay in Queenstown,

1665
01:18:33,492 --> 01:18:35,173
Speaker 23: but the reality is there are a lot of people,

1666
01:18:35,213 --> 01:18:37,293
Speaker 23: there's a lot of tourists, and you just have to.

1667
01:18:37,333 --> 01:18:37,812
Speaker 6: Get on with it.

1668
01:18:38,173 --> 01:18:40,612
Speaker 2: Excited about that you started about the gondola. You think

1669
01:18:40,652 --> 01:18:41,412
Speaker 2: that'll happen down.

1670
01:18:41,372 --> 01:18:42,932
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's going to be great.

1671
01:18:43,093 --> 01:18:44,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited about that.

1672
01:18:44,612 --> 01:18:44,812
Speaker 7: Great.

1673
01:18:45,053 --> 01:18:46,372
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for you call, Darrel, will have

1674
01:18:46,412 --> 01:18:47,972
Speaker 2: to let you go. Good call to finish.

1675
01:18:48,093 --> 01:18:49,812
Speaker 3: Thank you very much to everyone who gave us a

1676
01:18:49,812 --> 01:18:51,372
Speaker 3: buzz pigass of all places.

1677
01:18:51,492 --> 01:18:54,652
Speaker 2: Very popular. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well if the text machine

1678
01:18:54,692 --> 01:18:56,972
Speaker 2: is any to go by, a lot of people moving south.

1679
01:18:57,013 --> 01:18:59,452
Speaker 3: Exactly right, coming up after three o'clock. Who is the

1680
01:18:59,492 --> 01:19:01,892
Speaker 3: greatest musical genius of all time?

1681
01:19:02,652 --> 01:19:05,133
Speaker 2: This is a classic text lads. The Auklanders can stay

1682
01:19:05,213 --> 01:19:07,412
Speaker 2: right where they are. We don't want them down here exactly.

1683
01:19:07,612 --> 01:19:09,652
Speaker 2: You just cover it up, class itself. That's dude.

1684
01:19:10,973 --> 01:19:13,572
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor two agree.

1685
01:19:33,093 --> 01:19:35,573
Speaker 9: I did not love.

1686
01:19:37,973 --> 01:19:38,173
Speaker 2: There.

1687
01:19:41,812 --> 01:19:42,893
Speaker 22: You'll never.

1688
01:19:48,093 --> 01:19:49,212
Speaker 2: Use talks.

1689
01:19:49,333 --> 01:19:52,973
Speaker 3: It'd be that is the beach boys, of course, and

1690
01:19:53,053 --> 01:19:56,412
Speaker 3: that is what we're loosely talking about Brian Wilson, sadly,

1691
01:19:56,532 --> 01:19:59,852
Speaker 3: the founder of the nineteen sixties band The Beach.

1692
01:19:59,652 --> 01:20:03,333
Speaker 2: Boy, passed away at the age of eighty two. Yeah,

1693
01:20:03,372 --> 01:20:06,372
Speaker 2: what version of this? What's this version of the song?

1694
01:20:06,412 --> 01:20:09,372
Speaker 2: I haven't heard this version before, so, you know, God

1695
01:20:09,492 --> 01:20:12,732
Speaker 2: only knows. Fantastic song good Bye Grations another one he wrote,

1696
01:20:12,732 --> 01:20:15,053
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be nice? Stiffs Up? Don't worry Baby? What

1697
01:20:15,133 --> 01:20:17,612
Speaker 2: a great song that is the whole world love and mercy.

1698
01:20:17,652 --> 01:20:20,973
Speaker 2: He wrote some fantastic songs. Obviously, had his struggles with

1699
01:20:21,133 --> 01:20:23,333
Speaker 2: mental illness and he became a recluse for a while,

1700
01:20:23,372 --> 01:20:25,732
Speaker 2: and he was, you know this, he was sort of

1701
01:20:26,213 --> 01:20:28,452
Speaker 2: used by anyway, Let's not get into that he was.

1702
01:20:28,572 --> 01:20:30,293
Speaker 2: He was sort of locked up and used and abused,

1703
01:20:30,333 --> 01:20:34,452
Speaker 2: and he passed away at eighty two. But one of

1704
01:20:34,492 --> 01:20:39,772
Speaker 2: the great musical geniuses of you know, the last hundred years.

1705
01:20:40,093 --> 01:20:41,412
Speaker 2: Innovative as well, wasn't it.

1706
01:20:41,532 --> 01:20:44,852
Speaker 3: I mean he was arguably and you know a lot

1707
01:20:44,853 --> 01:20:46,772
Speaker 3: more about Bob Brian Wilson than I do, but but

1708
01:20:47,013 --> 01:20:50,333
Speaker 3: dogged in his vision with how we saw a particular

1709
01:20:50,532 --> 01:20:54,572
Speaker 3: song shaping up right. Good vibrations isrationally.

1710
01:20:53,652 --> 01:20:56,612
Speaker 2: Used, absolutely so The Beach Boys is an interesting thing

1711
01:20:56,692 --> 01:21:00,412
Speaker 2: because you know, the family harmonies were fantastic, but that

1712
01:21:00,492 --> 01:21:02,812
Speaker 2: Beach Boy's image. They weren't really Beach Boys. That was

1713
01:21:02,973 --> 01:21:05,213
Speaker 2: just a name that was given to them to try

1714
01:21:05,293 --> 01:21:07,893
Speaker 2: and sell records. And in the background you had a

1715
01:21:08,492 --> 01:21:11,492
Speaker 2: Wilson who was just a genius writing writing the songs

1716
01:21:11,532 --> 01:21:14,892
Speaker 2: and Pet Sounds, Oh my god, what a fantastic album

1717
01:21:14,973 --> 01:21:17,293
Speaker 2: Pet Sounds is, And that was just he wasn't on

1718
01:21:17,412 --> 01:21:19,572
Speaker 2: tour anymore, he wasn't really in the band. He was

1719
01:21:19,732 --> 01:21:23,093
Speaker 2: just running it from from behind the scenes and kind

1720
01:21:23,133 --> 01:21:27,213
Speaker 2: of working like a composer, like a classical composer. But

1721
01:21:27,412 --> 01:21:30,612
Speaker 2: that Pet Sounds album is just phenomenal. That the way

1722
01:21:30,652 --> 01:21:35,012
Speaker 2: it sounds, the attention to detail, it's just great song

1723
01:21:35,093 --> 01:21:37,492
Speaker 2: after great song. Wouldn't be nice, that's not me. I'm

1724
01:21:37,532 --> 01:21:40,053
Speaker 2: waiting for the day Sloop John B obviously a cover

1725
01:21:40,412 --> 01:21:42,732
Speaker 2: you still believe in me, don't talk, Let's go away

1726
01:21:43,492 --> 01:21:45,772
Speaker 2: for a while. God only knows. It's just such a

1727
01:21:45,853 --> 01:21:50,652
Speaker 2: fantastic album. So he's definitely in the conversation as one

1728
01:21:50,692 --> 01:21:54,372
Speaker 2: of the geniuses of music. But what do you think

1729
01:21:54,732 --> 01:21:59,333
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty who is the absolute musical genius

1730
01:21:59,732 --> 01:22:03,813
Speaker 2: and are we going to include yeah, yeah, yeah, Ludwigs,

1731
01:22:04,532 --> 01:22:07,213
Speaker 2: Oh you have to, I have to, yeah, yeah, bathe

1732
01:22:07,213 --> 01:22:11,013
Speaker 2: Ovens in there, the booties. Yeah yeah, you're going to

1733
01:22:11,053 --> 01:22:14,412
Speaker 2: go back then? Yeah, okay, I mean I wouldn't.

1734
01:22:14,093 --> 01:22:18,372
Speaker 3: Put lot paid Oven absolute genius and Mozart of course,

1735
01:22:18,452 --> 01:22:19,572
Speaker 3: but I don't know if I put them in the

1736
01:22:19,612 --> 01:22:20,013
Speaker 3: top ten.

1737
01:22:20,452 --> 01:22:21,293
Speaker 2: Just not my vibe.

1738
01:22:21,372 --> 01:22:23,812
Speaker 3: Other people may Are you going to say who you

1739
01:22:23,893 --> 01:22:28,053
Speaker 3: think is the biggest musical genius of all time?

1740
01:22:28,133 --> 01:22:28,213
Speaker 11: Now?

1741
01:22:28,333 --> 01:22:28,932
Speaker 2: Or shall we wait?

1742
01:22:33,053 --> 01:22:33,333
Speaker 6: Bark?

1743
01:22:34,173 --> 01:22:36,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's up there, he's certainly up there. I

1744
01:22:36,692 --> 01:22:39,253
Speaker 2: don't know. No, Look, I want to look sure. If

1745
01:22:39,293 --> 01:22:41,293
Speaker 2: you want to go full classical on it, be my

1746
01:22:41,372 --> 01:22:45,093
Speaker 2: guest on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. But when you're

1747
01:22:45,093 --> 01:22:47,013
Speaker 2: talking about Brian Wilson, I think it has to be

1748
01:22:47,452 --> 01:22:49,732
Speaker 2: from that sixties era forward.

1749
01:22:49,973 --> 01:22:50,133
Speaker 13: Right.

1750
01:22:50,372 --> 01:22:55,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not bloody taking it all the back to Traikowski,

1751
01:22:55,732 --> 01:23:00,053
Speaker 2: aren't we? Do we really want to bring Chopin into it? No,

1752
01:23:00,372 --> 01:23:02,253
Speaker 2: not Chopart, No chopping.

1753
01:23:02,492 --> 01:23:05,612
Speaker 3: Nah, they can stay out of the nowhere near bait Oven,

1754
01:23:05,652 --> 01:23:07,772
Speaker 3: nowhere near bait Oven. But I we one hundred and

1755
01:23:07,812 --> 01:23:10,492
Speaker 3: eighty ten, I'm going to say one slightly before the

1756
01:23:10,572 --> 01:23:12,772
Speaker 3: Beach Boys, but I certainly think he's in the mix.

1757
01:23:12,973 --> 01:23:15,253
Speaker 3: Ray Charles, and I know that will be controversial, but

1758
01:23:15,372 --> 01:23:19,772
Speaker 3: an incredible musician, incredible brain, and a genius when it

1759
01:23:19,893 --> 01:23:23,532
Speaker 3: came to the music side of things. But he had

1760
01:23:23,532 --> 01:23:25,173
Speaker 3: a lot of help behind the scenes, right that there

1761
01:23:25,213 --> 01:23:28,213
Speaker 3: were a lot of people helping Ray Charles write those songs.

1762
01:23:28,772 --> 01:23:31,093
Speaker 2: And hell of a performer, hell of a performer. It's

1763
01:23:31,093 --> 01:23:33,173
Speaker 2: interesting because a lot of people are texting Michael Jackson through,

1764
01:23:33,253 --> 01:23:35,852
Speaker 2: but they also Quincy Jones, and I would say there's

1765
01:23:35,893 --> 01:23:39,772
Speaker 2: no Michael Jackson without Quincy Jones. Yeah, because often the

1766
01:23:39,853 --> 01:23:42,812
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson he would just be humming a bassline and

1767
01:23:42,812 --> 01:23:44,892
Speaker 2: then Quincy Jones would have to work out how it's

1768
01:23:44,893 --> 01:23:45,452
Speaker 2: going to be played.

1769
01:23:45,532 --> 01:23:45,692
Speaker 19: Yea.

1770
01:23:45,973 --> 01:23:51,092
Speaker 2: So he wrote Billy Jean just by coming down stairs

1771
01:23:51,133 --> 01:23:54,093
Speaker 2: to the studio Michael Jackson and going boom doom doom, doom, doom, doom,

1772
01:23:54,173 --> 01:23:56,612
Speaker 2: doom doom doom in Quincy. Yeah, that does sound like

1773
01:23:56,612 --> 01:23:58,612
Speaker 2: a good bassline. We'll make that song. But also, you

1774
01:23:58,692 --> 01:24:00,852
Speaker 2: can be a genius performance because I'd say performer because

1775
01:24:00,893 --> 01:24:04,092
Speaker 2: Elvis didn't write his songs, but he was absolute genius

1776
01:24:04,412 --> 01:24:06,732
Speaker 2: and the way he presented those songs, and the way

1777
01:24:06,772 --> 01:24:10,652
Speaker 2: he organized his live shows and the organized his performance.

1778
01:24:10,213 --> 01:24:12,933
Speaker 3: A sex appeal, which was controversial at the time. All right,

1779
01:24:13,013 --> 01:24:14,732
Speaker 3: let's get into it. The phones have led up old

1780
01:24:14,732 --> 01:24:18,452
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty Who is the biggest musical

1781
01:24:18,532 --> 01:24:19,692
Speaker 3: genius of all time?

1782
01:24:20,013 --> 01:24:21,732
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you? It is twelve past three.

1783
01:24:21,853 --> 01:24:23,932
Speaker 2: Tim Rocksboro has joined the chat. Barry Gibb.

1784
01:24:25,933 --> 01:24:28,412
Speaker 3: Fourteen past three. Who is the greatest musical genius of

1785
01:24:28,492 --> 01:24:31,652
Speaker 3: all time? We've asked the question because sadly, Brian Wilson,

1786
01:24:31,772 --> 01:24:34,213
Speaker 3: the founder and create a force behind the Beach Boys,

1787
01:24:34,253 --> 01:24:35,772
Speaker 3: passed away at the age of eighty two.

1788
01:24:35,973 --> 01:24:37,372
Speaker 2: And sadly no one's saying Wilson.

1789
01:24:37,412 --> 01:24:37,532
Speaker 7: Hi.

1790
01:24:37,652 --> 01:24:40,732
Speaker 2: Someone here saying Wilson, Yeah, Wilson, McCartney, Stevie Wonder, little

1791
01:24:40,893 --> 01:24:44,893
Speaker 2: Richard Andy. Who's the greatest musical genius according to you?

1792
01:24:46,253 --> 01:24:48,253
Speaker 6: Oh look, I'm a guitar player.

1793
01:24:49,053 --> 01:24:50,293
Speaker 7: I'm myself.

1794
01:24:51,532 --> 01:24:54,092
Speaker 18: You'd have to be pretty hard to go past Jimmy

1795
01:24:54,173 --> 01:24:55,333
Speaker 18: Page or Jimmy Hendrix.

1796
01:24:56,013 --> 01:24:56,732
Speaker 2: Yeah Hendrix.

1797
01:24:56,893 --> 01:24:57,013
Speaker 7: Right.

1798
01:24:57,412 --> 01:24:59,333
Speaker 2: I was trying to learn how to play a little

1799
01:24:59,412 --> 01:25:03,133
Speaker 2: wing recently. That is a very, very difficult to play

1800
01:25:03,173 --> 01:25:04,612
Speaker 2: like Jimmy. You can't get anywhere near it?

1801
01:25:04,692 --> 01:25:06,732
Speaker 7: Can you? It's bloody easy.

1802
01:25:06,893 --> 01:25:07,652
Speaker 6: What are you on about?

1803
01:25:09,532 --> 01:25:11,973
Speaker 2: You got your guitar near by? Endy easy for you, and.

1804
01:25:13,133 --> 01:25:15,412
Speaker 18: I'm driving at the moment. But yeah, I do my

1805
01:25:15,492 --> 01:25:18,572
Speaker 18: own version of Voodoo Child, and yeah, all sorts of stuff.

1806
01:25:18,652 --> 01:25:21,492
Speaker 18: So you actually opened up the groove, Matt, And.

1807
01:25:21,612 --> 01:25:24,253
Speaker 2: Generally I think that's my problem is to stuff I

1808
01:25:24,333 --> 01:25:28,572
Speaker 2: can't just I can't get the voodoo. The voodoo doesn't

1809
01:25:28,652 --> 01:25:29,052
Speaker 2: run through.

1810
01:25:31,452 --> 01:25:35,212
Speaker 18: The guy came up with some amazing ways to play chords,

1811
01:25:35,772 --> 01:25:41,452
Speaker 18: finger tapping for guitaring and drinking things. Yeah, different tuning

1812
01:25:41,572 --> 01:25:43,732
Speaker 18: on guitars that we've never heard of.

1813
01:25:43,772 --> 01:25:45,813
Speaker 2: And never seen some Yeah, fantastic.

1814
01:25:46,372 --> 01:25:46,612
Speaker 7: I love.

1815
01:25:46,652 --> 01:25:49,172
Speaker 2: One of the greatest stories ever was when Sergeant Peppers

1816
01:25:49,572 --> 01:25:52,293
Speaker 2: came out and that night Jimmy Hendrix was playing and

1817
01:25:52,333 --> 01:25:54,652
Speaker 2: he immediately had the cover of Sergeant Peppers and the

1818
01:25:54,692 --> 01:25:56,412
Speaker 2: Beatles went along and just heard it and went, wow,

1819
01:25:56,452 --> 01:25:59,972
Speaker 2: that's a very cool version. Just instantly he was there

1820
01:26:00,013 --> 01:26:03,173
Speaker 2: to cover. How you mentioned Stevie Wonder as well, that.

1821
01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:09,253
Speaker 18: Stevie Wonder what a genius old videos. Yeah, he must

1822
01:26:09,333 --> 01:26:15,173
Speaker 18: be about nineteen to twenty years old. Guy's blind, Yeah,

1823
01:26:15,853 --> 01:26:21,532
Speaker 18: but he can play the keyboard. The saxophone, the harmonica, sing. Yeah,

1824
01:26:23,333 --> 01:26:27,372
Speaker 18: I mean, and the guy's been round and relevant since

1825
01:26:27,412 --> 01:26:28,012
Speaker 18: he first.

1826
01:26:27,853 --> 01:26:29,612
Speaker 2: Came on the same Can you imagine coming up with

1827
01:26:29,652 --> 01:26:35,212
Speaker 2: a riff as cool as superstition? Just exactly just imagine

1828
01:26:35,253 --> 01:26:36,572
Speaker 2: if you just did you come up with that riff

1829
01:26:36,612 --> 01:26:38,812
Speaker 2: and then when the drums first come in with that,

1830
01:26:38,893 --> 01:26:41,012
Speaker 2: it's just so incredibly funky.

1831
01:26:42,173 --> 01:26:44,333
Speaker 18: And then you hear a lot of his tunes and

1832
01:26:44,532 --> 01:26:47,572
Speaker 18: influences and the likes of and we know that Chilli

1833
01:26:47,612 --> 01:26:49,133
Speaker 18: Peppers have done covers of his song.

1834
01:26:49,412 --> 01:26:50,852
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's a.

1835
01:26:50,812 --> 01:26:53,253
Speaker 18: Little bits of Stevie Wonder out there and lots of

1836
01:26:53,293 --> 01:26:54,333
Speaker 18: different types of music.

1837
01:26:54,692 --> 01:26:58,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, he was. He was no doubt, absolute genius.

1838
01:26:58,532 --> 01:27:11,173
Speaker 2: Think if you call any oh yeah, just liten is

1839
01:27:11,253 --> 01:27:14,253
Speaker 2: so good, isn't it? Imagine be able to sing and

1840
01:27:14,372 --> 01:27:17,612
Speaker 2: play that complicated riff at the same time like he can. Toby,

1841
01:27:17,732 --> 01:27:18,733
Speaker 2: your genius.

1842
01:27:18,452 --> 01:27:20,133
Speaker 4: Is did I guys?

1843
01:27:20,213 --> 01:27:21,293
Speaker 2: How are we very good?

1844
01:27:22,492 --> 01:27:22,932
Speaker 7: That's good?

1845
01:27:23,013 --> 01:27:26,732
Speaker 4: That's good my genius. I think as a Kelly at

1846
01:27:26,772 --> 01:27:29,452
Speaker 4: the moment, like you look beyond the point that he

1847
01:27:29,492 --> 01:27:31,532
Speaker 4: person on a couple of people, He's got some bloody

1848
01:27:31,572 --> 01:27:34,013
Speaker 4: god bang. It's like I believe I can fly as

1849
01:27:34,093 --> 01:27:37,692
Speaker 4: one of my favorite ones, The World's Greatest absolute chunk.

1850
01:27:38,293 --> 01:27:41,093
Speaker 2: I find I struggle to get past the that that

1851
01:27:41,213 --> 01:27:44,133
Speaker 2: little thing about R Kelly. Yeah, I just struggle to

1852
01:27:44,572 --> 01:27:47,133
Speaker 2: just get past that. But you know, I believe I

1853
01:27:47,173 --> 01:27:50,053
Speaker 2: can fly before we knew what he was up to. Sorry, Yes,

1854
01:27:50,053 --> 01:27:53,412
Speaker 2: it's good. So and and Toby raises a very interesting question,

1855
01:27:53,492 --> 01:27:55,812
Speaker 2: doesn't he can you know, can you get past the

1856
01:27:56,013 --> 01:27:59,852
Speaker 2: the the does it matter? Can you get part the

1857
01:27:59,933 --> 01:28:02,572
Speaker 2: artist from a piece of art stand on its own?

1858
01:28:02,933 --> 01:28:03,173
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1859
01:28:03,732 --> 01:28:06,812
Speaker 2: Or is it always tied to the behavior of the person.

1860
01:28:06,853 --> 01:28:08,492
Speaker 2: And I think that's what Toby was trying to get

1861
01:28:08,492 --> 01:28:10,213
Speaker 2: across when he rang up to say that. I think

1862
01:28:10,253 --> 01:28:12,093
Speaker 2: he was too. Yeah, and that song was a big

1863
01:28:12,133 --> 01:28:14,053
Speaker 2: part of Toby was ringing up to share the deeper

1864
01:28:14,093 --> 01:28:20,133
Speaker 2: philosophical nature of R. Kelly's art versus his terrible, terrible

1865
01:28:20,772 --> 01:28:22,092
Speaker 2: evil behavior crimes.

1866
01:28:22,173 --> 01:28:24,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that song was a big part of Space Jam,

1867
01:28:24,093 --> 01:28:26,532
Speaker 3: which was a great movie. Michael Jordan fantastic.

1868
01:28:26,612 --> 01:28:29,372
Speaker 2: Jealous, Welcome to the show, Hi go.

1869
01:28:30,173 --> 01:28:35,212
Speaker 19: I think long Longe ever is a big factor in greatness.

1870
01:28:35,293 --> 01:28:39,372
Speaker 19: You know, It's like a tennis player. Yep, they keep winning,

1871
01:28:40,412 --> 01:28:43,093
Speaker 19: keep playing at a high level for a long time.

1872
01:28:43,213 --> 01:28:44,933
Speaker 19: I think that makes him one of the great And

1873
01:28:46,173 --> 01:28:49,732
Speaker 19: so when you apply that to music, I've got five

1874
01:28:49,973 --> 01:28:53,293
Speaker 19: on the top tier, and then you've got lower tiers

1875
01:28:53,293 --> 01:28:57,213
Speaker 19: as well. But my top five Brian Wilson, Bob Dylan,

1876
01:28:57,532 --> 01:29:01,412
Speaker 19: Stevie Wonder, the Beatles, and Bert backerac.

1877
01:29:01,133 --> 01:29:05,892
Speaker 2: Oh, Burt Becker absolutely yeah, yeah, I mean Burt Becker,

1878
01:29:06,253 --> 01:29:08,133
Speaker 2: you know, writing for songs for so many different people,

1879
01:29:08,173 --> 01:29:11,452
Speaker 2: but so so clear it's a Bert Backerack song. Just

1880
01:29:11,532 --> 01:29:14,852
Speaker 2: an absolute genius. Yeah. I mean, I mean, because you

1881
01:29:14,853 --> 01:29:16,253
Speaker 2: can have people that come along and they have one

1882
01:29:16,333 --> 01:29:18,572
Speaker 2: good album. They're their first album, they build up to

1883
01:29:18,652 --> 01:29:20,213
Speaker 2: it for a few years and they released an album

1884
01:29:20,253 --> 01:29:23,093
Speaker 2: it's great, but the second, the third album songs over

1885
01:29:23,133 --> 01:29:25,133
Speaker 2: a long period of time. That's absolutely when, you know.

1886
01:29:25,492 --> 01:29:27,492
Speaker 2: And that's why I questioned where the kirk Obains are

1887
01:29:27,532 --> 01:29:30,973
Speaker 2: genius because he had one really good album. I mean,

1888
01:29:31,013 --> 01:29:32,972
Speaker 2: I like that. I liked Bleach. They had one really

1889
01:29:33,013 --> 01:29:34,852
Speaker 2: good album and then he had the next one and

1890
01:29:34,893 --> 01:29:37,933
Speaker 2: then he was gone. But it was his quality was

1891
01:29:37,933 --> 01:29:39,532
Speaker 2: falling off a cliff aft to never mind if you

1892
01:29:39,572 --> 01:29:42,932
Speaker 2: ask ask me. Yeah, so yeah, one hundred percent agree, Dallas.

1893
01:29:43,093 --> 01:29:46,013
Speaker 2: And you've got to say Stevie wonder in terms of longevity.

1894
01:29:46,053 --> 01:29:46,452
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1895
01:29:46,532 --> 01:29:47,852
Speaker 3: It's a good point though, because if you come in

1896
01:29:47,893 --> 01:29:50,572
Speaker 3: and you do something different and innovative and something nobody's

1897
01:29:50,612 --> 01:29:53,812
Speaker 3: ever seen before, that Nirvana arguably arguably did, but didn't

1898
01:29:54,293 --> 01:29:57,492
Speaker 3: back it up with longevity, Like you know, Brian Wilson,

1899
01:29:57,572 --> 01:29:59,692
Speaker 3: Bob Dylan, all of those names you listed.

1900
01:29:59,492 --> 01:30:00,973
Speaker 2: There, Dallas, I think that's spot on.

1901
01:30:01,093 --> 01:30:02,293
Speaker 3: You've got to be in it for the long haul

1902
01:30:02,772 --> 01:30:05,333
Speaker 3: and be consistent and bring new things to the table

1903
01:30:05,372 --> 01:30:06,132
Speaker 3: over a long period.

1904
01:30:07,333 --> 01:30:07,812
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

1905
01:30:07,933 --> 01:30:10,572
Speaker 7: Yeah, they all those have done that, haven't they.

1906
01:30:10,893 --> 01:30:15,652
Speaker 19: Yeah, Yeah, they've doctored and brought new things to the table.

1907
01:30:16,333 --> 01:30:16,532
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1908
01:30:17,412 --> 01:30:19,253
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call, Dallas.

1909
01:30:20,253 --> 01:30:23,293
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming through, but we we're going to

1910
01:30:23,333 --> 01:30:26,133
Speaker 3: play some messages and we've got full boards at the

1911
01:30:26,173 --> 01:30:28,732
Speaker 3: moment as well, So if you can't get through, keep trying.

1912
01:30:28,772 --> 01:30:31,892
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Who is the greatest

1913
01:30:31,973 --> 01:30:33,372
Speaker 3: musical genius of all time?

1914
01:30:33,452 --> 01:30:34,013
Speaker 6: In your view?

1915
01:30:34,452 --> 01:30:37,412
Speaker 2: A controversial call for Limp Biscuit to be in the

1916
01:30:37,532 --> 01:30:38,732
Speaker 2: In the conversation, I don't know.

1917
01:30:39,133 --> 01:30:45,972
Speaker 1: Roll and roll and roll and roll, Matt Heathan Tyler

1918
01:30:46,013 --> 01:30:49,333
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on

1919
01:30:49,532 --> 01:30:50,412
Speaker 1: News Talk said, be.

1920
01:30:50,732 --> 01:30:52,812
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to your twenty three past three. We're

1921
01:30:52,853 --> 01:30:57,372
Speaker 3: talking about the greatest musical genius of all time. Sadly,

1922
01:30:57,492 --> 01:30:59,652
Speaker 3: Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys crewt of Force and

1923
01:30:59,732 --> 01:31:01,852
Speaker 3: genius behind that band passed away at the age of

1924
01:31:01,933 --> 01:31:02,293
Speaker 3: eighty two.

1925
01:31:03,372 --> 01:31:05,612
Speaker 2: This is some of the suggesting John Williams. You've got

1926
01:31:05,692 --> 01:31:07,412
Speaker 2: to say, John and Williams has got to be up there.

1927
01:31:08,893 --> 01:31:14,893
Speaker 2: So many great themes, you know, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Superman,

1928
01:31:15,572 --> 01:31:18,052
Speaker 2: e T Harry Potter.

1929
01:31:18,772 --> 01:31:22,333
Speaker 3: Well, I mean yeah, if you mentioned composers. Hans Zimmer

1930
01:31:22,532 --> 01:31:26,812
Speaker 3: has had an incredibly successful career as a movie composer,

1931
01:31:27,372 --> 01:31:31,452
Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings. He's worked with Oh gosh, I'm

1932
01:31:31,492 --> 01:31:34,492
Speaker 3: going to forget his name now. Oh man, it will

1933
01:31:34,532 --> 01:31:35,932
Speaker 3: come back to me. It's on the top of my tongue.

1934
01:31:36,173 --> 01:31:39,452
Speaker 2: Jaws theme. Absolutely, you go, oh, you gotta put them

1935
01:31:39,492 --> 01:31:41,253
Speaker 2: in the Home Alone. I don't really know the home

1936
01:31:41,253 --> 01:31:45,093
Speaker 2: alone thing. Good movie though. He came up with the

1937
01:31:45,173 --> 01:31:51,492
Speaker 2: close Close Encounters of the Third Time Man Allan, Welcome

1938
01:31:51,572 --> 01:31:53,532
Speaker 2: to the show, You reckon. McCartney's a genius.

1939
01:31:54,772 --> 01:31:58,253
Speaker 24: Well, you've really opened up Canon Williams haven't. We're hoping

1940
01:31:58,572 --> 01:32:01,092
Speaker 24: you could really split it, like you could have okay

1941
01:32:01,253 --> 01:32:06,772
Speaker 24: songwriting duo's or producers only or people that perform their

1942
01:32:06,812 --> 01:32:11,452
Speaker 24: own songs sort of thing. But I'd say Lennon, sorry,

1943
01:32:11,532 --> 01:32:15,213
Speaker 24: McCartney would be in the top two, if not number one,

1944
01:32:15,372 --> 01:32:18,732
Speaker 24: because of his longevity, but also that he's written so

1945
01:32:18,812 --> 01:32:22,652
Speaker 24: many songs for other artists and he came out of

1946
01:32:22,732 --> 01:32:28,213
Speaker 24: a group and forged a solo career. And up there

1947
01:32:28,253 --> 01:32:32,532
Speaker 24: you've got to put Dylan for the same reason, and

1948
01:32:33,013 --> 01:32:37,372
Speaker 24: probably Verry Gibb because all three of them have been

1949
01:32:37,492 --> 01:32:42,852
Speaker 24: songwriters for other people that were you are well renowned

1950
01:32:42,933 --> 01:32:45,213
Speaker 24: in Barbar Streisen, Celean, Dion and so on.

1951
01:32:45,372 --> 01:32:48,612
Speaker 2: With you can you can absolutely tell when it's when

1952
01:32:48,652 --> 01:32:51,652
Speaker 2: it's a Gibb song, like a Woman of Love or

1953
01:32:51,812 --> 01:32:52,772
Speaker 2: Islands in a Stream.

1954
01:32:53,173 --> 01:32:56,333
Speaker 24: They're just but I mean they are harmonies. The Beach's

1955
01:32:56,333 --> 01:33:00,213
Speaker 24: harmonies knocked the Beach Boys out of the park. They

1956
01:33:00,293 --> 01:33:02,573
Speaker 24: were far and away superior.

1957
01:33:02,973 --> 01:33:04,933
Speaker 2: When you when you go when you go back to

1958
01:33:05,013 --> 01:33:08,052
Speaker 2: Paul McCartney, do you think he was writing his songs

1959
01:33:08,093 --> 01:33:10,452
Speaker 2: were when he was butting heads with John Lennon. I

1960
01:33:10,492 --> 01:33:12,532
Speaker 2: mean they wrote separately, but then they'd come together and

1961
01:33:12,853 --> 01:33:15,372
Speaker 2: bash out the songs. Do you think that competition between

1962
01:33:15,452 --> 01:33:16,732
Speaker 2: them made them better.

1963
01:33:17,213 --> 01:33:20,173
Speaker 24: Because I think their last album probably, although it was

1964
01:33:20,253 --> 01:33:23,572
Speaker 24: really a compilation for the album at the end. I mean,

1965
01:33:23,772 --> 01:33:25,772
Speaker 24: some of the best songs were on that, but Sergeant

1966
01:33:25,812 --> 01:33:30,333
Speaker 24: Pepper was probably the big change up for them, and

1967
01:33:30,532 --> 01:33:33,852
Speaker 24: that competed pretty I mean, some people argue that it

1968
01:33:33,973 --> 01:33:37,052
Speaker 24: competed directly with good Vibrations, you know, but you've.

1969
01:33:36,933 --> 01:33:39,652
Speaker 2: Got to say band songs like Band on the Run,

1970
01:33:40,013 --> 01:33:42,093
Speaker 2: Jet and Live and Let Die and a lot of

1971
01:33:42,133 --> 01:33:46,372
Speaker 2: those Paul McCartney wing songs were absolutely brilliant songs.

1972
01:33:46,652 --> 01:33:46,852
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1973
01:33:47,093 --> 01:33:49,852
Speaker 24: But then you see you can add songwriters in there

1974
01:33:49,933 --> 01:33:54,013
Speaker 24: as well. Neil Diamond, oh yeah, who wrote you know,

1975
01:33:54,093 --> 01:33:59,732
Speaker 24: he was Tim Panelli writer, and Carol King and you

1976
01:33:59,812 --> 01:34:04,733
Speaker 24: know Burke Backracks being mentioned, Prince Princes.

1977
01:34:06,093 --> 01:34:07,133
Speaker 7: For other people too, you know.

1978
01:34:08,652 --> 01:34:10,452
Speaker 24: And then you get into rock, you know, Page and

1979
01:34:10,532 --> 01:34:14,692
Speaker 24: Plant and Water and Gilmore, you know, and that's silly, Belk,

1980
01:34:14,772 --> 01:34:18,852
Speaker 24: And you've really got to think of a top ten

1981
01:34:19,532 --> 01:34:23,013
Speaker 24: collaboratively as being the best as opposed to an individual life.

1982
01:34:23,532 --> 01:34:26,452
Speaker 2: It's very good ones, yeah, but does the.

1983
01:34:26,652 --> 01:34:28,572
Speaker 3: Likes of Brian Wilson and you mentioned a couple of

1984
01:34:28,652 --> 01:34:31,213
Speaker 3: other solo people there, but does he get credit for

1985
01:34:31,532 --> 01:34:35,612
Speaker 3: operating by himself where McCartney and Lennon arguably were.

1986
01:34:35,893 --> 01:34:39,372
Speaker 2: You know, their partnership was part of the genius behind them.

1987
01:34:39,412 --> 01:34:41,532
Speaker 3: And yes, Paul McCartney went on to have a very

1988
01:34:41,532 --> 01:34:44,732
Speaker 3: successful solo career, but the Beatles was those two together.

1989
01:34:46,812 --> 01:34:48,852
Speaker 24: Yeah yeah, I mean you've already got to look at

1990
01:34:50,973 --> 01:34:54,853
Speaker 24: I mean he's talking about the songs and you know, individually,

1991
01:34:55,372 --> 01:34:59,452
Speaker 24: so really, yeah, I don't know the stats. You'd have

1992
01:34:59,572 --> 01:35:01,612
Speaker 24: to really, someone will crunch the numbers and come out

1993
01:35:01,652 --> 01:35:04,692
Speaker 24: and say there will be one that wrote the most songs,

1994
01:35:04,732 --> 01:35:08,253
Speaker 24: that did the best for the most people. But really,

1995
01:35:09,293 --> 01:35:12,652
Speaker 24: you know, my influencers were probably all of those people.

1996
01:35:13,173 --> 01:35:16,732
Speaker 24: And then you've got and behind you've got Andrew Lord

1997
01:35:16,812 --> 01:35:18,452
Speaker 24: Web and Tim Rice you know, yeah.

1998
01:35:18,452 --> 01:35:21,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's a great thing as well as

1999
01:35:21,812 --> 01:35:24,492
Speaker 2: composers and lyricists as well when they come to you.

2000
01:35:24,772 --> 01:35:28,053
Speaker 24: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, there's so many, you know, there's really

2001
01:35:28,133 --> 01:35:30,612
Speaker 24: not really one all and I was lucky enough. The

2002
01:35:30,692 --> 01:35:33,172
Speaker 24: longer you live, I mean you can check. I suppose

2003
01:35:33,173 --> 01:35:36,932
Speaker 24: you could put Willy Nelson in there, and you know, yeah,

2004
01:35:37,293 --> 01:35:39,653
Speaker 24: guys that have been performing for seventy years.

2005
01:35:39,652 --> 01:35:42,572
Speaker 2: The redd Stranger. Now, I was lucky enough fell into

2006
01:35:42,612 --> 01:35:44,932
Speaker 2: interview Paul McCartney once, and it was incredible the whole

2007
01:35:44,973 --> 01:35:46,812
Speaker 2: time when I was interviewing, and I was going screaming

2008
01:35:46,853 --> 01:35:48,213
Speaker 2: in my head as I'm talking to a Beatle, I'm

2009
01:35:48,213 --> 01:35:49,412
Speaker 2: talking to the Beatles. So it was really hard for

2010
01:35:49,492 --> 01:35:51,293
Speaker 2: me to get over that noise in my head to

2011
01:35:51,372 --> 01:35:54,213
Speaker 2: ask some questions. But I said to him, I told

2012
01:35:54,293 --> 01:35:56,133
Speaker 2: him that my favorite song he'd ever written was No

2013
01:35:56,253 --> 01:36:01,012
Speaker 2: More Lonely Nights, because it is. And he was shocked

2014
01:36:01,053 --> 01:36:02,772
Speaker 2: by that because he was like, well, no one ever

2015
01:36:02,812 --> 01:36:06,532
Speaker 2: says that, but he's just written so many, so many

2016
01:36:06,572 --> 01:36:08,772
Speaker 2: great songs that you would just forget. No More Lonely

2017
01:36:08,853 --> 01:36:11,492
Speaker 2: Light Nights in the mix of it was completely.

2018
01:36:12,772 --> 01:36:16,812
Speaker 24: You know that song, silly love songs. Yeah, there was

2019
01:36:16,893 --> 01:36:20,412
Speaker 24: a kind of a movement, I guess among the music

2020
01:36:20,452 --> 01:36:25,093
Speaker 24: industry against you know, soppy yeah songs. Yeah, and so

2021
01:36:25,253 --> 01:36:28,133
Speaker 24: he wrote that as a as a taking the mac

2022
01:36:28,532 --> 01:36:29,412
Speaker 24: and it went to number one.

2023
01:36:29,973 --> 01:36:30,612
Speaker 8: Yeah, he made it.

2024
01:36:30,732 --> 01:36:33,452
Speaker 24: I mean, so you know what a really good sort

2025
01:36:33,492 --> 01:36:34,012
Speaker 24: of reaction.

2026
01:36:34,173 --> 01:36:38,652
Speaker 2: You know, his only real crime was at their Christmas song,

2027
01:36:39,333 --> 01:36:41,452
Speaker 2: simply having a wonderful Christmas time, but I understand. He

2028
01:36:41,492 --> 01:36:43,372
Speaker 2: wrote that he had had a few drinks at dinner

2029
01:36:43,412 --> 01:36:45,013
Speaker 2: and he went stopped on the studio and the way

2030
01:36:45,093 --> 01:36:48,772
Speaker 2: home and whipped it up and it's made him tens

2031
01:36:48,812 --> 01:36:50,732
Speaker 2: of millions of pounds. Hey, thank you so much for

2032
01:36:50,772 --> 01:36:58,333
Speaker 2: you call Ellen Une very incredible to play. This is

2033
01:36:58,372 --> 01:37:09,253
Speaker 2: your favorite Paul McCartney composition, But I love it, beautiful,

2034
01:37:09,372 --> 01:37:10,333
Speaker 2: absolute genius.

2035
01:37:10,452 --> 01:37:12,372
Speaker 3: Right, we're going to carry this on after the Headlines,

2036
01:37:12,372 --> 01:37:14,852
Speaker 3: which is coming up, but love to hear your thoughts.

2037
01:37:14,893 --> 01:37:17,052
Speaker 3: So one hundred and eighteen eighty. Who is the greatest

2038
01:37:17,133 --> 01:37:18,372
Speaker 3: musical genius of all time?

2039
01:37:18,532 --> 01:37:21,772
Speaker 2: And those that text in Kevin Bloody Wilson. Yeah, he's

2040
01:37:21,812 --> 01:37:23,013
Speaker 2: in the conversation. He's pretty good.

2041
01:37:25,412 --> 01:37:27,692
Speaker 1: You talk sat the headlines.

2042
01:37:27,372 --> 01:37:30,572
Speaker 15: With blue bubble taxis, it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

2043
01:37:30,973 --> 01:37:34,053
Speaker 15: The number of civil servants is down slightly on this

2044
01:37:34,253 --> 01:37:37,852
Speaker 15: time last year, but has risen on the past quarter,

2045
01:37:38,372 --> 01:37:41,532
Speaker 15: with sixty three two hundred and thirty eight people employed

2046
01:37:41,572 --> 01:37:45,253
Speaker 15: by the government as of March. Ministry of Justice data

2047
01:37:45,293 --> 01:37:48,812
Speaker 15: shows by twenty thirty five, more than fourteen thousand people

2048
01:37:48,893 --> 01:37:52,652
Speaker 15: could be behind bars, a thirty six percent rise pushed

2049
01:37:52,732 --> 01:37:55,293
Speaker 15: by the sentencing Reform Act and the return of the

2050
01:37:55,372 --> 01:38:00,052
Speaker 15: three strikes law. The Council of Trade Union has told

2051
01:38:00,133 --> 01:38:03,652
Speaker 15: the world about New Zealand's pay equity fight. Addressing the

2052
01:38:03,772 --> 01:38:08,772
Speaker 15: International Labor Organization Conference in Geneva. It's told members the

2053
01:38:09,093 --> 01:38:13,133
Speaker 15: CTU won't rest until women's workers properly valued, with all

2054
01:38:13,213 --> 01:38:18,132
Speaker 15: workers paid fairly regardless of gender. Australia says it's confident

2055
01:38:18,213 --> 01:38:21,972
Speaker 15: plans within the Orchest Security Pact will play out, despite

2056
01:38:22,013 --> 01:38:24,492
Speaker 15: the US reviewing the three way deal with the UK

2057
01:38:25,053 --> 01:38:29,052
Speaker 15: to establish whether it's allies as stepping up. Award winning

2058
01:38:29,133 --> 01:38:32,013
Speaker 15: novelist Pab Adams has been awarded this year's Michael King

2059
01:38:32,093 --> 01:38:35,772
Speaker 15: Writer's Fellowship. It includes a one hundred thousand dollars grant.

2060
01:38:36,692 --> 01:38:37,412
Speaker 1: Blues v.

2061
01:38:37,572 --> 01:38:41,652
Speaker 15: Crusaders the inspiration behind the Quest to End Playoffs record

2062
01:38:42,173 --> 01:38:44,572
Speaker 15: read more at enz En Herald Premium. Now back to

2063
01:38:44,652 --> 01:38:46,253
Speaker 15: Matteathan Tyler Adams.

2064
01:38:45,973 --> 01:38:48,092
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Raylan, who is the greatest musical

2065
01:38:48,173 --> 01:38:51,372
Speaker 3: genius of all time. Brian Wilson, the founder and creative

2066
01:38:51,452 --> 01:38:54,093
Speaker 3: force behind The Beach Boys, has passed away at eighty two.

2067
01:38:54,213 --> 01:38:56,572
Speaker 2: Many would say he'd be up there. Yeah, absolute genie,

2068
01:38:56,652 --> 01:38:59,612
Speaker 2: especially the pet Sounds album. Although my good friend, Graham,

2069
01:38:59,652 --> 01:39:02,173
Speaker 2: Hell's just text mean, city's overrated, said the all right,

2070
01:39:02,812 --> 01:39:05,772
Speaker 2: but the Alton John fans are coming out in force

2071
01:39:05,812 --> 01:39:08,293
Speaker 2: and they're furious. Why aren't you mentioning Elton John, Elton John,

2072
01:39:08,412 --> 01:39:11,692
Speaker 2: Elton John. What about Elton John? Yeah, Elton John absolute genius.

2073
01:39:12,173 --> 01:39:14,412
Speaker 2: You got no doubt about it. Alton John's got to

2074
01:39:14,412 --> 01:39:17,852
Speaker 2: be in the conversation the longevity of the man, Melanie

2075
01:39:18,213 --> 01:39:19,412
Speaker 2: your musical genius.

2076
01:39:20,853 --> 01:39:27,412
Speaker 21: Neil Finn grown, Yeah, yeah, Well, Paul McCartney was asked,

2077
01:39:27,933 --> 01:39:30,293
Speaker 21: how does it feel to be the greatest songwriter in

2078
01:39:30,333 --> 01:39:32,053
Speaker 21: the world. He said, I don't know, asked Neil Finn.

2079
01:39:34,093 --> 01:39:35,732
Speaker 2: God, Neil Fin would love that because there's a huge

2080
01:39:35,732 --> 01:39:38,613
Speaker 2: Beatles fan. What's your favorite Nil Finn composition across Splitdeen's

2081
01:39:38,612 --> 01:39:42,372
Speaker 2: Crowded House and Solo and such Crowded House.

2082
01:39:42,412 --> 01:39:45,772
Speaker 21: The album together alone, it had distant sons, but it

2083
01:39:45,893 --> 01:39:48,492
Speaker 21: also had some great songs like Private Universe Now than

2084
01:39:48,572 --> 01:39:55,412
Speaker 21: most feats, Harry Caddy Cuddy really, oh yeah, fabulous, fabulous man,

2085
01:39:55,532 --> 01:39:58,972
Speaker 21: fabulous singer songwriter. See, Elton John was he was half

2086
01:39:59,133 --> 01:40:01,412
Speaker 21: he was this boy Bernie Taukien and Elton John.

2087
01:40:01,532 --> 01:40:02,333
Speaker 6: So you know.

2088
01:40:04,053 --> 01:40:06,892
Speaker 2: That's decent. Genius from Elton John to get. He quickly

2089
01:40:06,973 --> 01:40:08,933
Speaker 2: realized I can't write lyrics. I'll get a guy to

2090
01:40:08,933 --> 01:40:11,452
Speaker 2: write the lyrics. I'm great writing songs and they're fantastic together.

2091
01:40:11,853 --> 01:40:14,213
Speaker 2: I reckon whenever I hear four Seasons in One Day

2092
01:40:15,013 --> 01:40:18,293
Speaker 2: crowded House song, I'm just blowing away. The composition of

2093
01:40:18,333 --> 01:40:21,812
Speaker 2: that song, it's just so fantastic. But also solo, she

2094
01:40:21,893 --> 01:40:23,612
Speaker 2: Will Have Her Way is such a good song from

2095
01:40:23,692 --> 01:40:24,133
Speaker 2: Neil Phone.

2096
01:40:24,133 --> 01:40:27,532
Speaker 21: Oh yes, yeah, he's just fab. We should be very proud.

2097
01:40:28,173 --> 01:40:29,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are, and we are.

2098
01:40:29,772 --> 01:40:30,053
Speaker 7: Thank you.

2099
01:40:30,492 --> 01:40:33,732
Speaker 2: Melanie Rose. Yeah, I love what you're going to say.

2100
01:40:34,053 --> 01:40:42,372
Speaker 2: Who's your genius? David Bowiewie? Yeah, what a great man.

2101
01:40:43,093 --> 01:40:43,293
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2102
01:40:44,093 --> 01:40:46,492
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite era Rose of David Bowie?

2103
01:40:47,652 --> 01:40:48,772
Speaker 7: Well, I like them all.

2104
01:40:48,933 --> 01:40:53,492
Speaker 17: I cannot lie. But because of New Zealand based, I

2105
01:40:53,772 --> 01:40:54,572
Speaker 17: like China Girl.

2106
01:40:54,893 --> 01:40:58,412
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, great song and a great album.

2107
01:40:59,652 --> 01:41:02,173
Speaker 17: Also like oh yeah, that's got me.

2108
01:41:03,053 --> 01:41:05,412
Speaker 19: Neil Jamond, the carpander.

2109
01:41:07,853 --> 01:41:10,532
Speaker 20: I can't think of his name, sings the.

2110
01:41:10,572 --> 01:41:12,812
Speaker 8: Song Me and and Black minute.

2111
01:41:12,853 --> 01:41:13,892
Speaker 2: Did you say men and Black?

2112
01:41:14,973 --> 01:41:15,173
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2113
01:41:15,492 --> 01:41:19,692
Speaker 2: Well you're not thinking Will Smith. No, that's a good

2114
01:41:19,772 --> 01:41:23,692
Speaker 2: movie Men in Black or google Johnny Cash, Johnny Cash,

2115
01:41:23,933 --> 01:41:27,293
Speaker 2: I just got I've.

2116
01:41:26,173 --> 01:41:27,852
Speaker 17: Been thinking about that the whole time.

2117
01:41:28,013 --> 01:41:32,653
Speaker 2: I just got the Fulsome Prison album on vinyl. It's fantastic,

2118
01:41:33,412 --> 01:41:35,772
Speaker 2: it's funny, the eras of you know, David Bowie's a

2119
01:41:35,812 --> 01:41:37,612
Speaker 2: guy that's had so many different eras. But I just

2120
01:41:37,772 --> 01:41:40,612
Speaker 2: ordered the Labyrinth soundtrack on vinyl, and I know that's

2121
01:41:40,652 --> 01:41:43,692
Speaker 2: not a very credible era of David Bowie, but god,

2122
01:41:43,732 --> 01:41:46,452
Speaker 2: I love that soundtrack. Oh Jump, Magic Jump. That is

2123
01:41:46,492 --> 01:41:48,692
Speaker 2: a fantastic So I don't care what anyone says an

2124
01:41:48,772 --> 01:41:54,133
Speaker 2: underground what a fantastic Jeene Yeah, even the Yeah, yeah,

2125
01:41:54,333 --> 01:41:57,532
Speaker 2: so good. Think if you call Rose here, that your

2126
01:41:57,612 --> 01:41:58,412
Speaker 2: musical genius.

2127
01:42:00,253 --> 01:42:01,053
Speaker 25: Bruce Springsteen?

2128
01:42:01,452 --> 01:42:04,732
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what's your favorite Springsteen album?

2129
01:42:07,173 --> 01:42:09,532
Speaker 25: I think I like all of them. I've got most

2130
01:42:09,572 --> 01:42:12,333
Speaker 25: of his ups, all the CDs, went to all his

2131
01:42:12,492 --> 01:42:14,492
Speaker 25: concerts that he had in New Zealand.

2132
01:42:14,692 --> 01:42:17,692
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did you go to when he came here recently?

2133
01:42:17,732 --> 01:42:20,012
Speaker 2: And he did one Night that was Born to Run

2134
01:42:20,133 --> 01:42:22,013
Speaker 2: and one Night that was Born in the USA? Did

2135
01:42:22,053 --> 01:42:23,012
Speaker 2: you go to both of those?

2136
01:42:24,532 --> 01:42:24,732
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2137
01:42:25,093 --> 01:42:27,253
Speaker 25: He came out in two thousand and three and went

2138
01:42:27,333 --> 01:42:30,893
Speaker 25: to Western Springs. Then he came out in twenty and

2139
01:42:30,973 --> 01:42:34,732
Speaker 25: fourteen and went to christ Church in Auckland and under

2140
01:42:34,812 --> 01:42:38,093
Speaker 25: both those concepts, and then he came out to in

2141
01:42:38,412 --> 01:42:41,333
Speaker 25: twenty and seventeen and went to Mount Smart and under

2142
01:42:41,412 --> 01:42:42,453
Speaker 25: both those concerts.

2143
01:42:42,692 --> 01:42:45,173
Speaker 3: Oh wow, how good man of the people as well,

2144
01:42:45,253 --> 01:42:46,892
Speaker 3: wasn't he, Heather? I think he had some really nice

2145
01:42:46,933 --> 01:42:48,933
Speaker 3: things to say about christ Church. There are because he

2146
01:42:49,053 --> 01:42:50,573
Speaker 3: was there not long after the earthquakes.

2147
01:42:51,652 --> 01:42:55,053
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, that's right the twenty fourteen and dedicated that

2148
01:42:55,853 --> 01:42:59,692
Speaker 25: confert He writes all his own songs, and he writes

2149
01:42:59,692 --> 01:43:00,372
Speaker 25: for other people.

2150
01:43:00,732 --> 01:43:03,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a genius. Born to Run, Born to Run

2151
01:43:03,093 --> 01:43:06,333
Speaker 2: as one of the greatest songs ever written. Stinky though stinky,

2152
01:43:06,452 --> 01:43:09,612
Speaker 2: he's got terrible bo he will be. Yeah, he looks

2153
01:43:09,772 --> 01:43:12,372
Speaker 2: extent because he gets pretty switty up there. You've been

2154
01:43:12,412 --> 01:43:15,053
Speaker 2: close enough to the Boss to smell him. I've him. Yeah,

2155
01:43:15,093 --> 01:43:18,333
Speaker 2: he stinks, He's famously does. But but if you're Bruce Springsteen,

2156
01:43:18,333 --> 01:43:20,133
Speaker 2: you're allowed to stink. Yeah, you know, you're allowed to

2157
01:43:20,173 --> 01:43:21,932
Speaker 2: get the pets out and share it all around him.

2158
01:43:21,933 --> 01:43:25,173
Speaker 2: And it's an honor to smell his horrific body home.

2159
01:43:25,253 --> 01:43:25,812
Speaker 2: It certainly is.

2160
01:43:26,013 --> 01:43:26,173
Speaker 7: Now.

2161
01:43:26,213 --> 01:43:28,412
Speaker 3: Someone's just had to go at me, and quite rightly

2162
01:43:28,412 --> 01:43:31,053
Speaker 3: because I said it was jump magic jump, Bowie, it's

2163
01:43:31,133 --> 01:43:31,812
Speaker 3: dance magic.

2164
01:43:32,013 --> 01:43:35,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, so dance dance, magic dance. But the song is

2165
01:43:35,572 --> 01:43:36,892
Speaker 2: called magic dance, right, Yeah.

2166
01:43:36,812 --> 01:43:40,092
Speaker 3: Songs called magic dance. Yeah, but the lyric is jump

2167
01:43:40,492 --> 01:43:42,213
Speaker 3: magic jump magic Jump.

2168
01:43:42,692 --> 01:43:44,612
Speaker 2: You remind me of the babe? What babe, the bebe

2169
01:43:44,652 --> 01:43:47,053
Speaker 2: with the power what power? The power of voodoo? Who

2170
01:43:47,133 --> 01:43:47,893
Speaker 2: do you do do?

2171
01:43:48,093 --> 01:43:48,133
Speaker 4: What?

2172
01:43:48,772 --> 01:43:52,372
Speaker 2: Remind me of the bebe? Some of babe? Nice? Yeah,

2173
01:43:52,853 --> 01:43:56,492
Speaker 2: good song, great, great, great, but definitely not a credible

2174
01:43:56,532 --> 01:43:59,492
Speaker 2: eraror of David Bowie Andrew. Welcome to the show, your

2175
01:43:59,572 --> 01:44:00,333
Speaker 2: musical genius.

2176
01:44:01,652 --> 01:44:03,732
Speaker 26: Oh just quickly, before I get into that, I just

2177
01:44:03,812 --> 01:44:06,053
Speaker 26: want to say one thing about David Bowie. The only

2178
01:44:06,133 --> 01:44:08,572
Speaker 26: thing that was more impressive than in songwriter in that

2179
01:44:08,732 --> 01:44:09,852
Speaker 26: movie was his cod piece.

2180
01:44:10,412 --> 01:44:12,732
Speaker 2: Absolutely for a kid's movie. There was a lot going

2181
01:44:12,772 --> 01:44:13,852
Speaker 2: on in the tights, wasn't there.

2182
01:44:13,973 --> 01:44:17,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, those three rotating balls. I think he had one

2183
01:44:17,333 --> 01:44:18,253
Speaker 3: in his we tights there.

2184
01:44:19,372 --> 01:44:23,613
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think he was storing something. Yeah, yeah, Buckingham

2185
01:44:23,812 --> 01:44:30,772
Speaker 26: next Fleetwood m Yeah. The Roommate's album is potentially the

2186
01:44:30,973 --> 01:44:36,012
Speaker 26: greatest album ever written. Yeah, it stacks up today. It's

2187
01:44:36,173 --> 01:44:37,333
Speaker 26: just such a good album.

2188
01:44:37,572 --> 01:44:40,293
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean and that those those four songwriters

2189
01:44:40,333 --> 01:44:42,932
Speaker 2: coming together and you Know, and You've also Got You Got,

2190
01:44:43,213 --> 01:44:44,973
Speaker 2: You've Got no slouch on the drums as well. But

2191
01:44:45,093 --> 01:44:47,692
Speaker 2: for those four songwriters to be all performing on one

2192
01:44:47,732 --> 01:44:51,892
Speaker 2: album and delivering brilliance well couples breaking up and hating

2193
01:44:51,893 --> 01:44:54,772
Speaker 2: each other and just an absolute blizzard of cocaine in

2194
01:44:54,812 --> 01:44:56,693
Speaker 2: the max, it's quite quite incredible.

2195
01:44:57,893 --> 01:45:02,213
Speaker 26: Those days were a definate help I think, yeah, yeah,

2196
01:45:04,772 --> 01:45:08,093
Speaker 26: through that album of you Know a Breakup is Yeah,

2197
01:45:08,772 --> 01:45:10,213
Speaker 26: it's sad, but it makes it great.

2198
01:45:10,333 --> 01:45:13,333
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was watching a guitar tutorial on Never

2199
01:45:13,412 --> 01:45:16,133
Speaker 2: Going Back Again. That is an incredibly difficult song to

2200
01:45:16,173 --> 01:45:20,253
Speaker 2: play and Lindsay bing people forget what an incredible guitarist

2201
01:45:20,333 --> 01:45:23,492
Speaker 2: Lindsay Buckingham is and was yeah, yeah, unreal.

2202
01:45:23,572 --> 01:45:25,812
Speaker 3: His style, isn't it fingerstyle, which is he's one of

2203
01:45:25,853 --> 01:45:28,612
Speaker 3: the greatest of all time in it. There's been a

2204
01:45:28,652 --> 01:45:30,972
Speaker 3: few techs coming through for Pink Floyd.

2205
01:45:31,293 --> 01:45:33,173
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, you got to be there and

2206
01:45:33,492 --> 01:45:36,053
Speaker 2: Paul Simon and Simon and Garfunk call you should go

2207
01:45:36,333 --> 01:45:38,972
Speaker 2: go on line. There's there's this great footage from from

2208
01:45:38,973 --> 01:45:40,732
Speaker 2: a talk show I don't remember what the name of

2209
01:45:40,772 --> 01:45:44,612
Speaker 2: the show is, and it's Paul Simon writing still crazy

2210
01:45:44,652 --> 01:45:46,612
Speaker 2: after all these years and he hasn't written it yet,

2211
01:45:46,612 --> 01:45:48,652
Speaker 2: and he's showing the talk show host how he's trying

2212
01:45:48,692 --> 01:45:50,612
Speaker 2: to make it work, and he just realized what an

2213
01:45:50,853 --> 01:45:55,412
Speaker 2: absolute genius Paul Simon is. Just beyond comprehension that someone

2214
01:45:55,492 --> 01:45:58,772
Speaker 2: could be that, just the way he pieces it together

2215
01:45:58,853 --> 01:46:02,972
Speaker 2: with little refrains from classical music and his lyrical genius.

2216
01:46:03,372 --> 01:46:05,732
Speaker 3: Paul Simon, you giving me goosebumps. Oh eight hundred and

2217
01:46:05,732 --> 01:46:07,572
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Who is

2218
01:46:07,612 --> 01:46:10,892
Speaker 3: the greatest music genius of all time? It is nineteen

2219
01:46:10,893 --> 01:46:11,333
Speaker 3: to four.

2220
01:46:12,013 --> 01:46:15,052
Speaker 1: A fresh take on talk back. It's Matt Heathan Taylor

2221
01:46:15,133 --> 01:46:18,812
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten

2222
01:46:18,893 --> 01:46:20,612
Speaker 1: eighty News Talks b it was.

2223
01:46:20,612 --> 01:46:24,173
Speaker 3: The greatest musical genius of all time. This is the

2224
01:46:24,253 --> 01:46:27,213
Speaker 3: question we've asked after, said Lee. Brian Wilson, the creative

2225
01:46:27,253 --> 01:46:28,972
Speaker 3: forceome founder at the Beach Boys, passed.

2226
01:46:28,772 --> 01:46:33,133
Speaker 2: Away at the age of eighty two. Oh one hundred

2227
01:46:33,133 --> 01:46:35,293
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is an over the core. That

2228
01:46:35,452 --> 01:46:39,053
Speaker 2: was my mic. Yeah, are you experiencing strange technical difficulties

2229
01:46:39,093 --> 01:46:41,852
Speaker 2: with your ear? Sounding crystal clear?

2230
01:46:41,933 --> 01:46:42,053
Speaker 7: To me?

2231
01:46:42,253 --> 01:46:46,013
Speaker 2: Okay? It something very weird helpening with my headphones gone

2232
01:46:46,053 --> 01:46:48,173
Speaker 2: in some kind of phasing situation going on anyway. Yeah,

2233
01:46:48,253 --> 01:46:50,452
Speaker 2: that's not anyone else the problem but my own. Yeah.

2234
01:46:50,492 --> 01:46:51,812
Speaker 2: So that show I was talking about before is the

2235
01:46:51,853 --> 01:46:54,213
Speaker 2: Dick Cavit Show. Looked that up on YouTube, Paul Simon.

2236
01:46:54,253 --> 01:46:56,612
Speaker 2: There's two things. You can see him talking about how

2237
01:46:56,652 --> 01:46:59,852
Speaker 2: he composed Bridge over Troubled Water, and there's another one

2238
01:47:00,013 --> 01:47:03,933
Speaker 2: you can see him composing still Crazy after all these

2239
01:47:04,013 --> 01:47:05,132
Speaker 2: years till my favorite song.

2240
01:47:05,013 --> 01:47:06,772
Speaker 3: You just played a little bit before A man got

2241
01:47:06,812 --> 01:47:10,652
Speaker 3: goosebumps listening to it. Ian who Do You Reckon? Is

2242
01:47:10,732 --> 01:47:13,093
Speaker 3: the biggest musical genius of all time?

2243
01:47:14,452 --> 01:47:19,253
Speaker 27: Well, I believe that my most famous composer genius of

2244
01:47:19,333 --> 01:47:20,772
Speaker 27: all times are Frank Zappa.

2245
01:47:21,532 --> 01:47:25,892
Speaker 2: Ah how many albums did Frank Zappa release?

2246
01:47:26,812 --> 01:47:29,972
Speaker 27: So I'll probably own about I probably own about twenty,

2247
01:47:30,133 --> 01:47:31,412
Speaker 27: but I think there's a hell of a lot more

2248
01:47:31,492 --> 01:47:35,493
Speaker 27: than that. Yeah, cold going back from the late fifties

2249
01:47:35,612 --> 01:47:38,013
Speaker 27: until he died a few years back.

2250
01:47:38,053 --> 01:47:38,532
Speaker 7: I think it is.

2251
01:47:38,933 --> 01:47:41,173
Speaker 27: And I think the family have a massive archive of

2252
01:47:41,452 --> 01:47:44,213
Speaker 27: music that was unreleased, so there is any more to

2253
01:47:44,293 --> 01:47:47,532
Speaker 27: be and he played I think he wrote and composed

2254
01:47:47,572 --> 01:47:50,852
Speaker 27: for the London from of Minic orchestra at one point, Yeah,

2255
01:47:50,933 --> 01:47:53,892
Speaker 27: played with Stevie Wis bringing guitarist.

2256
01:47:54,133 --> 01:47:57,372
Speaker 2: Yeah. He released over one hundred and thirty albums.

2257
01:47:57,572 --> 01:48:01,372
Speaker 3: Wow, that is incredible, Zeppa, Yeah, one hundred and thirty albums.

2258
01:48:01,692 --> 01:48:05,692
Speaker 3: That his next level, wasn't it? Ten eighty is the

2259
01:48:05,853 --> 01:48:06,452
Speaker 3: number to call?

2260
01:48:06,973 --> 01:48:07,173
Speaker 22: Really?

2261
01:48:07,253 --> 01:48:09,452
Speaker 2: Can you get your view on who is the greatest

2262
01:48:09,532 --> 01:48:12,372
Speaker 2: musical genius of all time? Tim? How are you?

2263
01:48:13,572 --> 01:48:13,732
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2264
01:48:13,772 --> 01:48:15,612
Speaker 6: I'm well, guys and you yeah, very good?

2265
01:48:15,652 --> 01:48:16,213
Speaker 2: Who do you reckon?

2266
01:48:16,973 --> 01:48:21,772
Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay, so mainstream stuff definitely, se Paul McCartney. Yeah,

2267
01:48:22,973 --> 01:48:27,812
Speaker 6: Albert Hammond, not everyone would probably know, but prolific writer,

2268
01:48:29,133 --> 01:48:33,492
Speaker 6: never raids in southern California. And another hundred I couldn't

2269
01:48:33,492 --> 01:48:35,173
Speaker 6: even tell you right now.

2270
01:48:35,692 --> 01:48:36,133
Speaker 7: Oh wow.

2271
01:48:36,492 --> 01:48:38,652
Speaker 3: I'm just it wasn't a name I was familiar with.

2272
01:48:38,933 --> 01:48:41,932
Speaker 3: But I'm just looking at the songs that he's He's

2273
01:48:42,013 --> 01:48:43,692
Speaker 3: written a lot of.

2274
01:48:44,772 --> 01:48:47,293
Speaker 6: A lot of hats, a lot of quality stuff. Yeah,

2275
01:48:47,692 --> 01:48:52,772
Speaker 6: and sistly maybe not so prolific, but I love the

2276
01:48:52,853 --> 01:48:55,293
Speaker 6: music of all the writing of jeff Lynn.

2277
01:48:55,772 --> 01:49:00,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of teaks coming through on jeff Lynn.

2278
01:49:00,772 --> 01:49:02,492
Speaker 2: Do you know what You've just blind my mind? Because

2279
01:49:02,492 --> 01:49:04,972
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the band of Strokes. Albert

2280
01:49:05,213 --> 01:49:08,253
Speaker 2: Hammond Jr. Is this is going to sound so stupid,

2281
01:49:08,412 --> 01:49:09,932
Speaker 2: say this is Albert Hammond's son.

2282
01:49:10,572 --> 01:49:12,932
Speaker 6: I did not know that that's correct. Wow.

2283
01:49:13,973 --> 01:49:16,253
Speaker 2: I thought he was just called himself Albert Hammond Jr.

2284
01:49:16,293 --> 01:49:18,293
Speaker 2: As a sort of stage name. But he is actually

2285
01:49:18,372 --> 01:49:21,013
Speaker 2: his son. That's that's that's blowing my mind. Thanks of that, Tim.

2286
01:49:21,532 --> 01:49:24,772
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the old man just leave. He blasted him out.

2287
01:49:24,893 --> 01:49:25,093
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2288
01:49:26,293 --> 01:49:29,652
Speaker 3: There's been a few texts Tim for Roy Orbison as well,

2289
01:49:29,652 --> 01:49:33,093
Speaker 3: and I'm just go yeah, and Roy is fantastic. But again,

2290
01:49:33,253 --> 01:49:36,452
Speaker 3: Albert Hammond helped Roy write a lot of songs.

2291
01:49:37,173 --> 01:49:39,732
Speaker 6: That's right. And I don't know if I can call

2292
01:49:39,812 --> 01:49:44,372
Speaker 6: it writing credits. But as an artist, well, I'm very

2293
01:49:44,452 --> 01:49:48,692
Speaker 6: fond of Marvin Gay. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, who ever

2294
01:49:48,732 --> 01:49:51,453
Speaker 6: wrote it the way he delivered it with a point.

2295
01:49:52,732 --> 01:49:54,492
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Marvin Gay wrote his own songs.

2296
01:49:55,532 --> 01:49:56,612
Speaker 6: I think he wrote a lot of them.

2297
01:49:56,692 --> 01:49:59,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe not all of them, but the big ones

2298
01:49:59,492 --> 01:49:59,772
Speaker 2: I think.

2299
01:50:01,053 --> 01:50:04,333
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to tell him that Detroit or what

2300
01:50:04,492 --> 01:50:08,652
Speaker 6: of this and that? Or anyway, Yeah, yeah, something good.

2301
01:50:08,652 --> 01:50:12,253
Speaker 2: I think if you a cool term, appreciate it. I've

2302
01:50:12,253 --> 01:50:16,053
Speaker 2: always assumed that Marvin Gay fine and see whether he

2303
01:50:16,133 --> 01:50:18,692
Speaker 2: did write them, and speaking of seniors and juniors, that

2304
01:50:18,893 --> 01:50:25,372
Speaker 2: wasn't as a happier senior junior situation as the Strokes situation. Yes,

2305
01:50:25,532 --> 01:50:29,612
Speaker 2: of course, Marvin Gaye senior shots. Marvin Gaye didn't. Yeah,

2306
01:50:29,692 --> 01:50:32,412
Speaker 2: that was said into that story, Matthew, welcome the show,

2307
01:50:32,532 --> 01:50:34,492
Speaker 2: your musical genius. Mark Knopfler.

2308
01:50:36,652 --> 01:50:40,253
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's straight. You can't be their first two albums.

2309
01:50:40,293 --> 01:50:41,772
Speaker 14: I've got to say, matt You've got to get them

2310
01:50:41,812 --> 01:50:45,213
Speaker 14: on vinyl that are brilliant, like the way Mike Wright

2311
01:50:45,412 --> 01:50:48,732
Speaker 14: and his his guitar rips and oh my god, yeah,

2312
01:50:48,812 --> 01:50:54,692
Speaker 14: so gooding first two albums, first two albums like I

2313
01:50:54,772 --> 01:50:58,532
Speaker 14: think Come to the Waterline and Lions.

2314
01:50:58,293 --> 01:51:01,732
Speaker 2: And yeah, I've got making movies. I've got making movies

2315
01:51:01,812 --> 01:51:05,733
Speaker 2: on on vinyl and Brothers and yeah that's older.

2316
01:51:05,532 --> 01:51:05,932
Speaker 6: That's old.

2317
01:51:06,133 --> 01:51:08,253
Speaker 14: But you get their first two albums, you will.

2318
01:51:08,213 --> 01:51:08,973
Speaker 7: Not regret it.

2319
01:51:10,013 --> 01:51:11,933
Speaker 2: Regret it, I will, yeah, I mean, but you know,

2320
01:51:12,053 --> 01:51:14,012
Speaker 2: I know this is a this is obviously a huge

2321
01:51:14,093 --> 01:51:16,692
Speaker 2: head of this, but the Sultan's of Swing is an

2322
01:51:17,013 --> 01:51:19,293
Speaker 2: If you listen to that song, it is an insanely

2323
01:51:19,452 --> 01:51:24,053
Speaker 2: complex and brilliant song. Yeah, just there's guitar work in it.

2324
01:51:24,133 --> 01:51:28,652
Speaker 2: It's just phenomenal. Get your head around how great it is.

2325
01:51:29,692 --> 01:51:33,412
Speaker 14: Yeah, but yeah, get his first two albums. You won't regret.

2326
01:51:33,692 --> 01:51:36,412
Speaker 2: I will make you. I will and I'll report back

2327
01:51:36,412 --> 01:51:38,812
Speaker 2: to you. Thank you very much. You've got to say

2328
01:51:38,933 --> 01:51:41,173
Speaker 2: Dave Dobbin is in the mix. Leonard Cohen, Yeah, leon

2329
01:51:41,293 --> 01:51:45,013
Speaker 2: car absolute genius. I was listening to Hella Luliah just

2330
01:51:45,053 --> 01:51:46,492
Speaker 2: the other day playing it to my son. What a

2331
01:51:46,572 --> 01:51:49,293
Speaker 2: fantastic song. Leonard Cohen, just one of the great lyricists

2332
01:51:49,293 --> 01:51:52,932
Speaker 2: of all time. Mike Patten, Eddie Vedder coming through here,

2333
01:51:53,133 --> 01:51:56,532
Speaker 2: Roy Orbison, Eddie Van Halen. Yeah, he's huge.

2334
01:51:56,612 --> 01:51:59,732
Speaker 3: So a few for John Foggetty c CR doesn't his

2335
01:51:59,893 --> 01:52:02,053
Speaker 3: name doesn't get banded around enough. But he was a

2336
01:52:02,133 --> 01:52:05,293
Speaker 3: freaking genius. John Foggety could play any instrument under the sun,

2337
01:52:05,372 --> 01:52:06,012
Speaker 3: and what a voice.

2338
01:52:06,612 --> 01:52:13,133
Speaker 2: Shame your genius, you boys, very genius as Prince absolutely prince,

2339
01:52:13,732 --> 01:52:14,853
Speaker 2: absolutely genious.

2340
01:52:14,812 --> 01:52:20,373
Speaker 23: A songwriter, a musician, lyricrius, he's just amazing.

2341
01:52:20,692 --> 01:52:22,132
Speaker 6: He was the epitome.

2342
01:52:22,213 --> 01:52:24,532
Speaker 2: I think did you get did you see him when

2343
01:52:24,532 --> 01:52:26,293
Speaker 2: he came and played in New Zealand for the last time?

2344
01:52:27,612 --> 01:52:28,852
Speaker 6: No, unfortunately I didn't.

2345
01:52:28,933 --> 01:52:31,173
Speaker 23: But my oldest sister always had a crasher on him

2346
01:52:31,213 --> 01:52:32,852
Speaker 23: and used to have the big poster of him and

2347
01:52:32,893 --> 01:52:33,572
Speaker 23: I was made of bike.

2348
01:52:33,692 --> 01:52:36,612
Speaker 1: With the Purple Rain album and.

2349
01:52:38,532 --> 01:52:40,972
Speaker 2: Better than the Love Sexy cover, the Love Sexy cover.

2350
01:52:41,692 --> 01:52:44,412
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably wouldn't have allowed that up in a room.

2351
01:52:46,213 --> 01:52:47,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not know.

2352
01:52:47,372 --> 01:52:49,052
Speaker 6: He's just just a genius.

2353
01:52:49,133 --> 01:52:51,133
Speaker 2: I wouldn't see him and that. On that final tour,

2354
01:52:51,173 --> 01:52:52,812
Speaker 2: we was just playing. It was just him and the piano,

2355
01:52:52,893 --> 01:52:55,572
Speaker 2: and it was just so incredible. But the man is

2356
01:52:55,652 --> 01:52:58,093
Speaker 2: just a crazy, crazy amount of songs, you know. Yeah,

2357
01:52:58,133 --> 01:53:00,492
Speaker 2: he was when Doves Cry. You know, he wrote nothing

2358
01:53:00,572 --> 01:53:02,933
Speaker 2: to you, which is you know, I.

2359
01:53:03,013 --> 01:53:05,492
Speaker 10: Was just going to say, it's not just his his category,

2360
01:53:05,572 --> 01:53:07,892
Speaker 10: it's all the other categories that he wrote for people

2361
01:53:07,933 --> 01:53:09,093
Speaker 10: that we.

2362
01:53:09,412 --> 01:53:11,892
Speaker 23: Love their songs and don't realize that they're written by him.

2363
01:53:12,093 --> 01:53:14,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Medic Monday was written by him. Just

2364
01:53:15,093 --> 01:53:18,372
Speaker 2: huge hits written by Prince. But yeah, absolutely genius.

2365
01:53:18,452 --> 01:53:21,892
Speaker 3: In the modern mozart category certainly, friends, I mean absolute

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Speaker 3: genius and high IQ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call. Appreciate it. Sh Jane.

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Speaker 2: Shall we go to Welcome to the handle, Here we go, here, Laurie,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: There you go, mate, I love your show, Thank you.

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Speaker 7: I listened to it every day. Hey, listen, Jump Magic

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Speaker 7: Jump David Bowie is one of my favorite artists, but

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Speaker 7: Jump Magic Jump was never one of my favorite songs.

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Speaker 7: I kuld have got a band out of Auckland and

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Speaker 7: they play that as one of their very few covers

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Speaker 7: do that, and I never liked it.

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Speaker 9: All of a.

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Speaker 7: Sudden they revent it only about a month, just a

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Speaker 7: couple of months ago, and my goodness, why, it's just unbelievable. Honestly,

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Speaker 7: I could not believe the difference in the song and

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Speaker 7: how much I liked it.

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Speaker 2: So what what gendre did?

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Speaker 6: They did?

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Speaker 2: They play it and I don't know what.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what they did. Model Boy is something

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Speaker 7: of a a little bit of a musical genius. I

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Speaker 7: reckon Brothers Sister is the band uh out of Auckland.

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Speaker 7: They're applying for funding at the moment to do some stuff.

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Speaker 7: But in the tour Japan. There are on the tour

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Speaker 7: in Japan this year, So anyway, listen, have a listen

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Speaker 7: on Spotify. I don't know that song is technically on Spotify.

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Speaker 2: What do they call what they called other Sister brother

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Speaker 2: We'll find them Okay, thank you for your call. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say I like a bunch of Dave both songs

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Speaker 2: that aren't very credible. I love Absolute Beginners and and

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Speaker 2: that's not a song many people bring up, you know

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Speaker 2: from the soundtrack, Absolutely Beginning, Absolute Beginners. God, that's a

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Speaker 2: great song.

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Speaker 3: Absolute Geniu. Right, that's been a great discussion. Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much to everyone who phoned and called it. So

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Speaker 3: many texts we couldn't get to all of them.

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Speaker 2: Us thousands chill, absolute genius, Dave Grohl coming through, Quincy Jones. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: we can read all of them. Michael Jackson, Angus Young

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Speaker 2: thousands for Prince Billy Squire. Here you go, Elliott Smith,

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Speaker 2: he's great commentator as well. Deja Voodoo Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Well, Darndle,

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Speaker 2: in no doubt there's eight to four.

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Speaker 1: The Doobie Brothers, Yes, the big stories, the big issues,

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Speaker 1: the big trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and

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Speaker 1: Tayler Adams afternoons used Talk ZEDB News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 2: We got to keep that musical genius's chat going for ever,

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Speaker 2: but we've run out of time. So thank you to

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Speaker 2: all your great New Zealanders for listening to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for all your calls and texts. The

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Speaker 2: Mett and Tyler Afternoons podcast will be out and about now.

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Speaker 2: So if you missed our chats on making the world

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Speaker 2: a better place by making booze cheaper in bars than

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Speaker 2: it is and off licenses, the Big Move to the

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Speaker 2: South Island, or the Great musical Genius of all Time,

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Speaker 2: Sir Paul Holmes, Broadcaster of the Year. Here the Dupas.

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Speaker 2: The Ellen is up next. But right now, Tyler, why

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Speaker 2: am I playing this June June? Good vibrations, Rest and

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Speaker 2: beast Brian Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Well, wherever you are, whatever you're doing until tomorrow afternoon,

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Speaker 2: give him a taste of keiwek I love you.

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