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Speaker 1: So the governments announced the plans to stop wealthy workers

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Speaker 1: from raising an unjustified dismissal claim if they lose their jobs.

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Speaker 1: It will apply to workers who are earning one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty thousand dollars or more. And Max Whitehead is

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Speaker 1: an employment law experting with us. Now, Hey, Max, hey, Heather,

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Speaker 1: you like the sound of this?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. Well, I just think it's a

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Speaker 2: little bit Well, who would want to be a senior

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Speaker 2: manager right now? And who'd want to be in charge

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Speaker 2: of a ship? Because really, you're likely to cop one

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Speaker 2: only through this thing, you're going to lose all your

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Speaker 2: protection as an employee. And the next thing is that

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Speaker 2: you could be sued by under the Health and Safety

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Speaker 2: of Work Act. And just like the Ports of Auckland. Guy. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, it's a tough world out there if

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Speaker 2: you are any if you're a big timer in a

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Speaker 2: business right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, I mean, okay, so you have this

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Speaker 1: right taken away from you, wouldn't you just write it

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Speaker 1: into your contract?

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Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to negotiate it back in because most

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Speaker 2: employers would say, oh gotcha. If you want to get

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Speaker 2: this back into your contract, well, how about taking a

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars pay cut or something like that, they

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Speaker 2: would probably be seeking to negotiate a lower salary option

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Speaker 2: for them.

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Speaker 1: So what do you make of the argument that the

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Speaker 1: reason that the government has to do this is to

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Speaker 1: basically make it easier for bosses to be able to

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Speaker 1: get rid of useless middle managers.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it shouldn't be only sitting at the

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Speaker 2: top that option to do that, I think is one

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Speaker 2: of Brook van Belden's colleagues put up a bill for

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Speaker 2: this is saying that the employers should be entitled to

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Speaker 2: negotiate with an employee and saying, look, I'd like to

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Speaker 2: buy your exit, so you're finishing up with us? Can

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Speaker 2: I do that? And then they sit down and have

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Speaker 2: a chin wag about it. Now, if if in the

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Speaker 2: last interview you've just done, somebody's been grossly negligent or

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Speaker 2: perhaps just incompetent, well then of course they have grounds

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Speaker 2: to dismiss and the law would enable that to go

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Speaker 2: through a process. And can people protect themselves from that?

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Speaker 2: They should in my view, I mean, murderers get the

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Speaker 2: right to defend themselves, and surely, surely somebody in this

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Speaker 2: situation could be as well.

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Speaker 1: Max appreciate it, Max Whitehead Employment LAWIX.

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