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Speaker 1: this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to the Mattin

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons podcast.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic show.

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Speaker 2: Today we went deep into barbecue and Australian meat being

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Speaker 2: disgusting and overseas pork being gross.

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Speaker 4: There was some great meat chat and some great facts

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Speaker 4: from you actually met Eith. You did ask the question

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Speaker 4: what is the most eaten animal in the world, and

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Speaker 4: a lot of people they made a bold choice, but

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Speaker 4: they were wrong.

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Speaker 3: They were wrong.

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Speaker 2: Find out about that later on or So we had

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Speaker 2: some breaking news. Barry Soaper injeiced himself into our show.

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Speaker 3: Garry Soaper came in with some breaking news about Wellington,

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Speaker 3: had some good shot around that.

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Speaker 4: He was great.

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Speaker 2: Ah, he's an absolute pro. And also something else happened

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Speaker 2: on the show. I can't remember it right now, but

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Speaker 2: the year what was it?

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Speaker 4: It was well we talked the quarter at Acre Dream

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Speaker 4: and it turned out that people actually love lifestyle blocks.

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Speaker 4: But who likes a lifestyle block?

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Speaker 3: I mean all that air the life out of you?

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Speaker 3: Lifestyle even if you've got a.

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Speaker 4: Ride on mower. I mean like it sounds good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you know some people love them, some people don't.

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Speaker 2: I talk up apartment living, so let's get stuck into

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Speaker 2: the pod.

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Speaker 3: Give them a taste of Kiwi.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for Insateful and ed to Teening Talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Tyner Adams afternoons on news Talk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 4: Well today, welcome into the show. Tuesday afternoon. Matt and

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Speaker 4: Tyler with you until four pm. Great to have your

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Speaker 4: company as always, Maddy, you're going.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing very well. Actually well.

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Speaker 4: A big thing that I've found out about you over

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Speaker 4: the past couple of weeks is you're a massive baseball fan.

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Speaker 3: You've got to be.

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Speaker 2: Careful with the American sports because they're very, very addictive.

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Speaker 2: I saw the Dodgers play in Colorado against the Rockies

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Speaker 2: and fell in love with baseball. I just went on

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Speaker 2: to the game on a whim and then started reading

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Speaker 2: about the Dodgers. And this was many, many years ago,

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Speaker 2: about eight years ago, maybe even ten years ago, and

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Speaker 2: I've become completely addicted on the sports.

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Speaker 4: Certainly watch it here in your phone. What are the

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Speaker 4: Dodgers doing?

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Speaker 2: And unlike other sports, Baseball's played basically every day. They

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Speaker 2: play you know, they can play one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: two games a year.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot to follow.

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Speaker 2: But my beloved Dodgers have made it into the World

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Speaker 2: Series up against the dirty Yankees.

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Speaker 3: Starts on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers defeated the Mets yesterday in Game six, and boy,

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Speaker 2: oh boy, this is huge. It's huge for baseball. Baseball's

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Speaker 2: already had some of the biggest ratings this year, but

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Speaker 2: the the New York LA World Series has been something

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Speaker 2: they've been wanting for a long time. Two huge population

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Speaker 2: centers to very very popular teams.

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Speaker 4: Historic, this is it, It's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be, It's gonna be huge.

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Speaker 2: Starts Saturday at one pm our time, and hype. You

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Speaker 2: got Shohatani, who was paid seven hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers, how many years? For ten years?

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Speaker 2: He is an absolute superstar. Japan Money, Japan is all

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Speaker 2: in on the Dodgers. You've got Freddie Freeman, fantastic, you

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Speaker 2: not a problem. This is very exciting for me and

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Speaker 2: not exciting for anyone else. It also apologize for the

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Speaker 2: last three minutes of punishment.

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Speaker 4: I love your passion, mate, I love your passion. But right,

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Speaker 4: let's get onto the show. After three o'clock we're going

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Speaker 4: to be talking about camping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it the best Keyi holiday? Camping has proven

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Speaker 2: in a campground the best holiday you can have?

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Speaker 3: I think it is. I was camping last.

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Speaker 4: Always loved it in the camping ground where someone would

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Speaker 4: oh is at that time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first day you don't know people, but then

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Speaker 3: It's great stuff.

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Speaker 4: That's after three o'clock. After two o'clock, nearly two thousand

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Speaker 4: and fourteen years Walworth. They say they back ki wee

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Speaker 4: beef where they can. But do you care where your

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, especially with pork or not by pork

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Speaker 2: Actually, I'm quite patriotic about it. There's a feeling about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all very good logical arguments. And chatting to people

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Speaker 4: but I call me a bed kiwi and a lot

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Speaker 2: I bought a beautiful I fill it. Oh yeah, Kiwi

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Speaker 3: Bars and money. And you've got to get the cooking right.

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Speaker 4: You go charcoal or classic classic, guess, guess, guess, yes,

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Speaker 4: all the way right, that's after two o'clock was right.

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Speaker 4: Now we're going to have a chat about the end

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Speaker 4: of the quarter acre dream in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I think the quarter aga dream

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Speaker 4: That's a huge section.

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Speaker 3: That's huge.

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Speaker 4: Developers would love a section like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's gone.

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Speaker 2: But so home ownership is up for the first time

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Speaker 2: This is because almost half of buyers are open to

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Speaker 2: in townhouses and apartment situations, and I think that's not

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Speaker 3: And I love it.

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Speaker 2: Do you need a bigger house to be happy? Can

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Speaker 2: you live life? And in fact, can you have a better

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Speaker 2: the stuff in there. And mine isn't tiny, you know,

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Speaker 4: It's got any how many square meters inside for your place, now,

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Speaker 4: the smaller one over one hundred, because hundred hundred's cozy,

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Speaker 3: Definitely over one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's three stories, but it's it's smaller than the

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Speaker 2: other place. But there is just there's something about the tidiness,

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Speaker 4: It's Marie condo situation that you won everything. You called

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Speaker 2: I spent a little bit of japan time in Japan

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Speaker 3: While I was staying in hotels. Everything works perfectly.

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Speaker 2: It's tiny space, but you can you can utilize it

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Speaker 3: If you've got more property, you just use it. Just

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Speaker 4: There were three things we were looking at, you know,

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Speaker 4: house in christ Shots. Number one was water pressure, to

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Speaker 4: when we went ten to these places, and others followed us.

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Speaker 4: When they saw us turning the shower on, they turned

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Speaker 2: It's such a smart thing to do because so many

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Speaker 2: water PreCure is terrible.

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Speaker 4: Check it out, check it out. Number two was a bathtub.

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Speaker 4: I really wanted a bath and number three at that time,

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Speaker 4: but weird. Number three at that time was a decent

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Speaker 4: you know, that's a good good section for us. But

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Speaker 4: now if I was to buy it again, I don't

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Speaker 4: think it would be as much of a consideration because

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Speaker 4: that was a heck of a lot of land, probably

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Speaker 4: too much land for us. It just became Admond at

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Speaker 3: The did you put in gardens in there and live

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Speaker 3: off your own produce?

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Speaker 4: Already had gardens, fruit trees galore, had a greenhouse at

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Speaker 3: You did you did you run the gardens? You're eating

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Speaker 4: Shout of we ate the fruit. I got a dehydrator.

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Speaker 4: It's a long story. Actually I tried to dehydrate the fruit.

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Speaker 4: A fruit didn't go so well.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a long and very interesting story.

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Speaker 4: It was nobody wants to nobody wants to hear that story.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, if I to do our time again, I

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Speaker 4: think we'd get less land for a cheaper house. Yeah right,

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Speaker 4: and location, location is important. Yeah, yes, oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 4: eighty and eighty. I mean we all know. I think

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Speaker 4: the quarter acre dream has been long gone. That's a

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 4: News Talks there B. It is seventeen past one, and

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Speaker 4: And it was similar with you, Matt. You are downsized

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Moved into a townhouse from a villa type situation and

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Speaker 3: And you know, you get.

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Speaker 2: Out into the community, you do more stuff outside of

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Speaker 3: Get around on that?

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Speaker 2: I got room for a spar paul outside and a shed.

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Speaker 4: Do you actually have a mole for that little bit

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Speaker 6: Julian from Causton? As you know, I live in a

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Speaker 6: I think your circumstances change through your life. I mean

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Speaker 2: I guess it's not quite as much pressure on land

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Speaker 6: And look, I've got a little animal lawmark that I

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Speaker 6: just move around the pedictanchine keeps the grass.

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Speaker 4: Down, yeah, goes or sheep.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. A couple of other things though. The I agree

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Speaker 6: I've only got into it. I've only got into it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was missed.

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Speaker 2: I was impressed when Freddy Freeman got they bought them

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Speaker 3: I thought that was that was a lot.

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Speaker 2: And then I just got Shohtani Japanese Superstars over seven

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Speaker 3: That's not a bad way, is it? Not a bad? Mate?

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Speaker 3: Eighty million? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right, I had had to break this up. Housing Baba

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Speaker 6: Sorry, I tell you one more thing, Yes please, Matt.

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Speaker 6: You gave them advice about getting to sleep last week.

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Speaker 6: No, no, look, health reasons. I've got a stona bag.

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Speaker 6: Here I actually got within ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because so there thing actually the best way to

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Speaker 2: So the breathing I gave you, I think the best

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Speaker 2: I said. I got it around the wrong way. I

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Speaker 6: It does, and it's I was pretty amazed, you know

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Speaker 3: There, go on you variety of topics. There, we appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: You call baseball chat breathing chat. Am I going to

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Speaker 4: get the housing chat now?

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Speaker 2: I'll do an hour on baseball but we're talking about

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Speaker 2: do you need a large property, do you need a backyard,

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Speaker 4: Some comments here by Auckland A University of Technology construction

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Speaker 4: the way people approach property had changed. Since early twenty tens.

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Speaker 4: There had been a shift away from the large house

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Speaker 4: We've all seen that. Although the aspiration, he went on

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Speaker 4: a sign of the times, right, is that in any

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm going one step further and saying it's

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Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've downsized

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Speaker 4: and loved it, love to hear from you. It is

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast to.

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Speaker 3: Prime Ministers with us Krystoph Luckxon.

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Speaker 7: How do you explain a minister of the Crown going

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Speaker 7: going why don't you get some wine.

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Speaker 3: And f off you lose?

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Speaker 5: How does that evolve any? I mean, he got it

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Speaker 7: I mean you can sort of dispute stories on both

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Speaker 7: but the bottom line is from his perspective, he owns

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Speaker 7: it completely and that's why you saw him front it

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Speaker 7: very strongly off.

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Speaker 3: Can you fathom at that here as well?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 7: I mean again no I can't. I mean that's why

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Speaker 7: I said to him, it's pretty disappointing. They aren't the

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Speaker 7: four to seven, The reality is he caused hurt and

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Speaker 4: It's twenty five past one, so sixty six percent of households.

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Speaker 2: Own their homes last year. That's an increase, the first

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Speaker 2: increase in thirty years. And almost half of buyers would

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Speaker 3: And that's why there's more people owning.

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Speaker 2: Their houses, because people are living in apartments and townhouses.

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Speaker 2: And if you're looking for a house, as the size

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Speaker 4: It used to be for me, and for me I've

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Speaker 4: got to say not so much anymore. But when hopefully

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Speaker 4: we eventually have children, maybe it will be. At that

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Speaker 4: point you have a little bit of room for a tramp.

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Speaker 3: I've got a couple of kids upstairs. Yeah, and they're

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Speaker 4: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 4: call get a mic geddo guys, how I am very well?

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Speaker 4: What's your take on this one?

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Speaker 10: Very good?

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Speaker 11: Hey, I am just putting the finishing touches to a

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Speaker 11: three to five years. So currently in Canterbury the average

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Speaker 11: hundred square meters now. That's down from about four hundred

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Speaker 4: Are the homes getting any small all a mike? Clearly

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Speaker 11: These new builts look look, look they are and there's

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Speaker 11: there's there's two completely different markets here. One you do

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 11: Over the last ten years, there's been a definite downward

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Speaker 11: that's driven by a couple of things. Firstly, our household units,

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Speaker 11: the number of people living in our houses is smaller.

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Speaker 11: Here in christ Church it's two point seven people per household,

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Speaker 11: and sell when it's about two point nine. So again

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Speaker 11: we've sort of seen that two to three bedroom, three

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Speaker 11: two hundred two hundred and ten, so there's a definite

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Speaker 11: fall off. But the other thing that's driving that is affordability. Obviously,

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Speaker 11: the cost of land has increased significantly and then by

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting if you have a small house or a

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Speaker 2: for example, if you live in New York City, then

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Speaker 3: Know live there.

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Speaker 2: They don't any music kitchens, they don't have they don't

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Speaker 2: to eat in Deli's restaurants and you get out of

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Speaker 2: the house. So when you have a small house, you

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Speaker 2: just have a different lifestyle. That doesn't mean it's a

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Speaker 2: worse lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: Mike, you'd agree with that.

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Speaker 11: Look, well, absolutely, and again look whether it be lifestyle

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Speaker 11: I'm just a driving around, just sort of checking out

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Speaker 11: some new subdivisions. And look, the further you get out

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Speaker 11: for forty to fifty minute drive into christ Church Darfield,

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Speaker 11: let's call them lifestyle lots that are available, but that's

444
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Speaker 11: a smaller percentage if I was to lo in Rolliston

445
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Speaker 11: or Lincoln. Again, five hundred, four hundred and fifty square

446
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:18,733
Speaker 11: meters is a much more common size. And again, as

447
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Speaker 11: I said, you know, as you get into christ Church,

448
00:20:22,253 --> 00:20:26,093
Speaker 11: then the predominance of new housing is this multi unit development,

449
00:20:26,093 --> 00:20:30,093
Speaker 11: where again we're seeing the average size of these household

450
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Speaker 11: units is eighty six square meters, which is two bedrooms.

451
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Speaker 11: So look a look, it's partly driven by by price.

452
00:20:40,453 --> 00:20:47,853
Speaker 11: It's partly driven by lifestyle and household occupancy. But again,

453
00:20:49,213 --> 00:20:54,253
Speaker 11: what we're seeing built in Selwyn and Wymacreri again is

454
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Speaker 11: probably seventy to eighty percent single story individual standalone family

455
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Speaker 11: houses with the backyard, and that is the predominant style

456
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Speaker 11: of housing that I'm seeing built in those and those

457
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Speaker 11: are very interesting.

458
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Mike. Good to chat.

459
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Speaker 2: So I've got a question for you here, Okay, nine

460
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Speaker 2: two nine two. What is the click to the value

461
00:21:16,693 --> 00:21:19,373
Speaker 2: of residential property in New Zealand according to core Logic.

462
00:21:19,693 --> 00:21:20,253
Speaker 5: This is all of it.

463
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Speaker 3: Ask of question.

464
00:21:21,253 --> 00:21:26,093
Speaker 2: This is this is little properties, big priverties, residential properties

465
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Speaker 2: in New Zealand.

466
00:21:26,773 --> 00:21:28,133
Speaker 3: You're going to give us a clue, a little bit,

467
00:21:28,213 --> 00:21:28,533
Speaker 3: I'll give you.

468
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Speaker 2: I'll give you a full park yay seven hundred billion,

469
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Speaker 2: b eight hundred billion see one point six y two trillion.

470
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Speaker 4: It's definitely the last one. Definitely last one.

471
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Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

472
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Speaker 4: Nine two nine two is the text number of just

473
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Speaker 4: Mike was talking about the lifestyle blocks and lifestyles sections

474
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Speaker 4: rather and I anecdotally, you know, I've come across a

475
00:21:51,853 --> 00:21:53,853
Speaker 4: lot of people who love that idea of having a

476
00:21:53,933 --> 00:21:56,893
Speaker 4: lifestyle section, nothing too big, a couple of acres, maybe

477
00:21:57,173 --> 00:21:58,533
Speaker 4: upwards of fives.

478
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Speaker 3: Their death style blocks, they make your life miserable. Yeah,

479
00:22:00,933 --> 00:22:01,653
Speaker 3: they get there.

480
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Speaker 4: And case in point, my parents when they bought the

481
00:22:04,173 --> 00:22:06,333
Speaker 4: the Kiwi fruit orchard that was thirteen acres and they

482
00:22:06,453 --> 00:22:08,813
Speaker 4: love that idea being out in the country and they

483
00:22:08,893 --> 00:22:11,413
Speaker 4: got contractors into sort out the Kiwi fruit but it

484
00:22:11,573 --> 00:22:14,773
Speaker 4: ended up being a massive hassle. They spent all their

485
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Speaker 4: free time tend into the party.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I remember we sort of lived in that

487
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Speaker 2: kind of situation. You spend a lot of your lot,

488
00:22:20,933 --> 00:22:23,173
Speaker 2: you stop going on holidays because you're just working on

489
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Speaker 2: your own property. And that's a huge you know, that's

490
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Speaker 2: the far end of it. But I say the same

491
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Speaker 2: thing about even just your normal I mean quarter acre.

492
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Speaker 3: That's huge these days.

493
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Speaker 2: But there's something about just having like a townhouse and

494
00:22:39,933 --> 00:22:43,812
Speaker 2: everything sorted. Everything works. You don't have to do anything

495
00:22:43,853 --> 00:22:46,613
Speaker 2: on your property. In the weekend. You're going out seeing

496
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Speaker 2: the world, you're experiencing other people, you're socializing, you're having

497
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Speaker 2: a fantastic time.

498
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Speaker 4: You've got a couple of our townhouses for sale or something.

499
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Speaker 4: You're a massive downhouse convert.

500
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Speaker 3: I'm not into pottering around my garden. I want to

501
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Speaker 3: get out and do stuff.

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Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the size

503
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Speaker 4: of the section that much of a priority these days.

504
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Speaker 4: Love to hear from you headlines on their way.

505
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Speaker 12: Youth talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

506
00:23:13,893 --> 00:23:16,693
Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. A sense of relief

507
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Speaker 12: from the Greens, with a line drawn under the darling

508
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Speaker 12: in Tana Saga now the Speaker has officially ousted her

509
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Speaker 12: as an MP. The party argued her presence in parliament

510
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Speaker 12: as an independent distorted proportionality. The Detective Constable in charge

511
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Speaker 12: of Exhibits is the first witness at the murder trial

512
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Speaker 12: of Ting Jhun Chao, who's accused of killing Yanfei Bao

513
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Speaker 12: in July last year. He's been followed by Boo's partner

514
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Speaker 12: Paul Gooch Or. Thirteen youths who climbed on top of

515
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Speaker 12: Auckland's called Away Monarchi Youth Justice Facility yesterday are back

516
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Speaker 12: down Rangatamai kise they'll be held criminally accountable for damage.

517
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Speaker 12: The Department of Internal Affairs has signed a memorandum of

518
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Speaker 12: understanding with the Teaching Council to better sheer information to

519
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Speaker 12: protect kids from child defenders in schools. In confirmation, changes

520
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Speaker 12: to free skool lunch is now costing three dollars ahead

521
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Speaker 12: will trim about one hundred and thirty million dollars off

522
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Speaker 12: the government's books. Canada very disappointed by New Zealand's decision

523
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Speaker 12: to escalate dairy battle. You can find out more at

524
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Speaker 12: Ends and Herald Premium. Back now to Matt Heath and

525
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Speaker 12: Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about

527
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Speaker 4: our fascination with land size seems to be dwindling. A

528
00:24:31,973 --> 00:24:34,293
Speaker 4: lot more people are not putting it at the top

529
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Speaker 4: of their priority list. When they're looking for a house.

530
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Speaker 4: They don't care about the quarter acre. They don't even

531
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Speaker 4: care about seven hundred square meters. They just want a

532
00:24:40,853 --> 00:24:41,533
Speaker 4: discount on the home.

533
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Speaker 2: I like the sticks here lifestyle block, you mean life

534
00:24:44,413 --> 00:24:47,013
Speaker 2: sentence block, just calling them death style blocks. But when

535
00:24:47,053 --> 00:24:48,533
Speaker 2: you get that large piece of land and then you

536
00:24:48,773 --> 00:24:51,133
Speaker 2: just have to live for your land that's not productive,

537
00:24:51,613 --> 00:24:54,293
Speaker 2: doesn't make you any money, so you're still working for

538
00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:56,693
Speaker 2: the land but not getting anything back. So much would

539
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Speaker 2: I would prefer to be in a townhouse in town

540
00:25:00,933 --> 00:25:03,453
Speaker 2: close to restaurants, can go out and do everything rather

541
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Speaker 2: than working all.

542
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Speaker 3: My life on on just some land. Yeah, who cares.

543
00:25:09,813 --> 00:25:12,293
Speaker 4: Dad worked us kids like nothing else to try and

544
00:25:12,373 --> 00:25:14,173
Speaker 4: help with the admin. But luckily we had a ride

545
00:25:14,173 --> 00:25:15,933
Speaker 4: on Walmart so that they made it fun.

546
00:25:16,093 --> 00:25:18,333
Speaker 2: Oh I grew up on it and we've got right

547
00:25:18,373 --> 00:25:21,093
Speaker 2: on lawnmarer geez. Anyway, what is the collective value of

548
00:25:21,093 --> 00:25:23,373
Speaker 2: residential property in New Zealand? According to core Logic?

549
00:25:23,453 --> 00:25:26,773
Speaker 3: That was my question. I asked it poorly and you.

550
00:25:26,813 --> 00:25:29,733
Speaker 2: Guessed it straight away because I didn't put decimal places

551
00:25:29,773 --> 00:25:32,973
Speaker 2: on the other ones. So it is I said, seven million,

552
00:25:33,013 --> 00:25:36,613
Speaker 2: eight hundred billion or one point six two trillion was clearly.

553
00:25:36,413 --> 00:25:37,613
Speaker 3: Going to be that one. Yeah, it was the one

554
00:25:37,653 --> 00:25:39,373
Speaker 3: point six clearly. The one that's more specific.

555
00:25:39,653 --> 00:25:43,573
Speaker 2: One point two one point six two trillion dollars is

556
00:25:43,573 --> 00:25:45,693
Speaker 2: a collective valley of residential property in New Zealand.

557
00:25:45,893 --> 00:25:47,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've only got one hundred and twelve billion

558
00:25:47,933 --> 00:25:48,533
Speaker 3: in keep we saver.

559
00:25:48,573 --> 00:25:50,333
Speaker 4: It's a lot of wealth and property, Yida.

560
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Speaker 13: Simon, Yeah, hello, I just kind of wanted to make

561
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Speaker 13: an interesting point. I spent most of my twenties and

562
00:25:58,133 --> 00:26:01,333
Speaker 13: thirties working abroad, specifically in Europe, so we're kind of

563
00:26:01,453 --> 00:26:04,093
Speaker 13: used to living in smaller apartments. But I have to

564
00:26:04,133 --> 00:26:07,093
Speaker 13: say the difference in the lifestyle there was that everything

565
00:26:07,253 --> 00:26:09,333
Speaker 13: was more suited to it. I mean, I didn't need

566
00:26:09,413 --> 00:26:12,853
Speaker 13: a car because the public transport infrastructure was so good. Yeah,

567
00:26:12,933 --> 00:26:15,173
Speaker 13: if I didn't do a road trip, I'd rent a car.

568
00:26:15,253 --> 00:26:16,613
Speaker 13: It was a lot cheaper like that, there was no

569
00:26:16,693 --> 00:26:17,453
Speaker 13: point in.

570
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Speaker 14: Having one permanently.

571
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Speaker 13: And the entertainment was a lot more suited to that

572
00:26:21,653 --> 00:26:23,373
Speaker 13: style of living as well, Like there was a lot

573
00:26:23,413 --> 00:26:25,893
Speaker 13: more people going out to restaurants and bars, so therefore

574
00:26:25,973 --> 00:26:28,572
Speaker 13: the prices and restaurants and bars were a lot more

575
00:26:28,613 --> 00:26:32,093
Speaker 13: affordable and a lot higher quality and thinking of and

576
00:26:32,533 --> 00:26:34,973
Speaker 13: entertainment wise, you had a lot more like theater, a

577
00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:37,693
Speaker 13: lot of arts and culture and so on, and so

578
00:26:37,933 --> 00:26:42,213
Speaker 13: that kind of suited that smaller apartment style way of life.

579
00:26:42,253 --> 00:26:44,133
Speaker 13: And what I've seen in New Zealand since I've kind

580
00:26:44,173 --> 00:26:47,733
Speaker 13: of been back from just before COVID is like we've

581
00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,493
Speaker 13: put up a lot of apartments and townhouses, like you say,

582
00:26:51,253 --> 00:26:55,133
Speaker 13: but the infrastructure hasn't really changed accordingly to suit that lifestyle.

583
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what cities were you living in Europe? Simon?

584
00:27:00,693 --> 00:27:00,973
Speaker 15: Sorry?

585
00:27:01,013 --> 00:27:01,293
Speaker 12: What was that?

586
00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:04,813
Speaker 3: What was the city you were living in Europe quite

587
00:27:04,853 --> 00:27:05,333
Speaker 3: a few.

588
00:27:05,253 --> 00:27:08,253
Speaker 13: But the last, like the last five years was in Sweden.

589
00:27:08,653 --> 00:27:12,413
Speaker 13: I own Stockholm and a little bit and gotten.

590
00:27:12,213 --> 00:27:13,973
Speaker 3: De Yeah that might and you might be right.

591
00:27:14,293 --> 00:27:17,413
Speaker 2: And my positive chat about townhouses could be because I

592
00:27:17,853 --> 00:27:20,373
Speaker 2: live in a restaurant district, so I'm kind of experiencing

593
00:27:20,453 --> 00:27:23,773
Speaker 2: that sort of international situation where if you are going

594
00:27:23,813 --> 00:27:25,413
Speaker 2: to have a small house, you do want to spend

595
00:27:25,413 --> 00:27:27,533
Speaker 2: a lot of your time outside of it, which which

596
00:27:27,613 --> 00:27:30,173
Speaker 2: I do. My favorite I've got so many bars and

597
00:27:30,253 --> 00:27:31,773
Speaker 2: restaurants around me that.

598
00:27:31,933 --> 00:27:32,573
Speaker 15: That it is like that.

599
00:27:32,733 --> 00:27:35,333
Speaker 2: But you're quite right if you're in deep suburbia and

600
00:27:35,613 --> 00:27:38,013
Speaker 2: there's and you're surrounded by townhouses and nowhere to go,

601
00:27:38,373 --> 00:27:39,653
Speaker 2: and it's not such a great time, is it.

602
00:27:39,813 --> 00:27:40,013
Speaker 10: Yeah.

603
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Speaker 4: So i'mon just told they're a bit because we've got

604
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Speaker 4: some breaking news.

605
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Speaker 5: This is news talks breaking news.

606
00:27:48,253 --> 00:27:51,413
Speaker 4: Well, this is big. The government has confirmed it intends

607
00:27:51,453 --> 00:27:56,413
Speaker 4: to appoint to Wellington City Council and observer. The Local

608
00:27:56,493 --> 00:27:59,493
Speaker 4: Government Minister Simeon Brown says the government will intervene in

609
00:27:59,573 --> 00:28:01,373
Speaker 4: the council. So that is big news.

610
00:28:01,493 --> 00:28:04,533
Speaker 3: So an observer not a commissioner, yes, yep.

611
00:28:04,653 --> 00:28:07,133
Speaker 4: At this stage so there will be plenty more on

612
00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:11,173
Speaker 4: that is the afternoon progresses. But yeah, that is significant news.

613
00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:13,893
Speaker 4: Right back to the property chap for the time being.

614
00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:16,093
Speaker 4: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

615
00:28:16,173 --> 00:28:18,733
Speaker 4: to call. A lot of people texting about lifestyle blocks,

616
00:28:18,773 --> 00:28:21,973
Speaker 4: and I've got to say fifty to fifty on whether

617
00:28:22,173 --> 00:28:23,813
Speaker 4: it has been worth while for them or whether it

618
00:28:23,973 --> 00:28:26,013
Speaker 4: was just too much Edmond and too much.

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Speaker 2: Work like this text here heat stopping a dick kid.

620
00:28:28,093 --> 00:28:31,613
Speaker 2: Most of the country love lifestyle blocks. If you cannot

621
00:28:31,653 --> 00:28:34,093
Speaker 2: afford to enjoy one due to your limited budget, stop

622
00:28:34,213 --> 00:28:36,893
Speaker 2: giving us the means to afford them. And we love

623
00:28:36,973 --> 00:28:39,973
Speaker 2: bringing our kids up out there. Yeah, I mean that's

624
00:28:40,013 --> 00:28:41,293
Speaker 2: great if you do. But I think a lot of

625
00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:43,733
Speaker 2: people the dream is very different from the reality. And

626
00:28:44,093 --> 00:28:45,613
Speaker 2: people think I'm going to go out and we have

627
00:28:45,693 --> 00:28:48,933
Speaker 2: this bag bit of land and then no one comes

628
00:28:48,933 --> 00:28:52,373
Speaker 2: to visit them, and they're just isolated in the weekend

629
00:28:52,453 --> 00:28:54,453
Speaker 2: hanging out with missus, has nothing to do except for

630
00:28:54,493 --> 00:28:55,093
Speaker 2: work on the land.

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Speaker 4: I loved it as a kid. My parents, on the

632
00:28:57,093 --> 00:28:58,773
Speaker 4: other hand, I could see that it was just a

633
00:28:58,933 --> 00:29:01,933
Speaker 4: lot of work. But as a kid, I was, you know,

634
00:29:02,133 --> 00:29:03,293
Speaker 4: like a kid in a candy store.

635
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like cutting gorse on the weekends.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hundred and eighty ten eighty. It is nineteen minutes

637
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Speaker 4: to two.

638
00:29:12,853 --> 00:29:15,213
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

639
00:29:15,293 --> 00:29:18,693
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams. Afternoons you

640
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four you talk SEDB.

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00:29:21,773 --> 00:29:24,053
Speaker 4: News Talk zed B. So if you didn't catch the

642
00:29:24,133 --> 00:29:27,293
Speaker 4: news earlier. Our local government minister Simeon Brown has decided

643
00:29:27,373 --> 00:29:30,893
Speaker 4: to place an observer on Wellington City Council following its

644
00:29:30,973 --> 00:29:33,813
Speaker 4: decision to reopen its long term plan. That is big news.

645
00:29:34,053 --> 00:29:36,693
Speaker 2: Well yeah, okay, so an observer just sitting and watching.

646
00:29:37,133 --> 00:29:38,933
Speaker 2: You know what's an observer do? As an observer go

647
00:29:39,093 --> 00:29:43,493
Speaker 2: to be able to has got access to to observe.

648
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Speaker 4: You've hit an out of the heads.

649
00:29:45,093 --> 00:29:47,893
Speaker 2: There is there any teeth to an observer or do

650
00:29:47,973 --> 00:29:49,533
Speaker 2: they just report back to the government and they make

651
00:29:49,573 --> 00:29:50,413
Speaker 2: the decision.

652
00:29:50,133 --> 00:29:52,333
Speaker 4: As I understand it, So the observer to me, I

653
00:29:52,493 --> 00:29:54,573
Speaker 4: think is if they're going to intervene, it has to

654
00:29:54,653 --> 00:29:57,853
Speaker 4: start with an observer. That is the lowest cost option

655
00:29:58,093 --> 00:30:00,213
Speaker 4: for the government and for the council because it means

656
00:30:00,253 --> 00:30:02,373
Speaker 4: all the councilors and the mayor at this stage keep

657
00:30:02,413 --> 00:30:06,453
Speaker 4: their jobs. The nuclear option is to sack them all

658
00:30:06,653 --> 00:30:08,693
Speaker 4: and getting commissioners. So they haven't gone there that far.

659
00:30:08,853 --> 00:30:11,493
Speaker 4: But as I understand, the observer, once they're in there

660
00:30:11,813 --> 00:30:14,453
Speaker 4: has access to everything, so they open up the books,

661
00:30:14,533 --> 00:30:17,453
Speaker 4: they assess how the councilors behave they with one another?

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Speaker 3: They sit in a little chair in the council meetings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that sees observer on it like a director

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Speaker 4: in a movie set. But they can determine so then

665
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Speaker 4: they will present back to Samon Brown their findings or

666
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Speaker 4: their observations, and then he can decide whether to take

667
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Speaker 4: further steps.

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Speaker 3: But it is big news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's big news, and you know it's a massive

670
00:30:37,733 --> 00:30:39,533
Speaker 2: lack of faith in what's going on. But I think

671
00:30:39,653 --> 00:30:41,253
Speaker 2: everyone could see something had to happen.

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Speaker 4: If you want to have a chat about that, more

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Speaker 4: than welcome. O eight hundred eighty ten eighty. How do

674
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Speaker 4: you feel about that, particularly if you're in Wellington? Is

675
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Speaker 4: that a good move or are you a bit fearful

676
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Speaker 4: that the government is coming in hot and taking over

677
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Speaker 4: your council? Nine two nine too is the text number,

678
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Speaker 4: but we'll stick with property for the time being.

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Speaker 5: Get a John.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, guys, look.

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Speaker 16: I think what you're looking for is obviously budget dependent,

682
00:31:04,253 --> 00:31:07,533
Speaker 16: but you know, it's time and life as well. My

683
00:31:08,733 --> 00:31:11,813
Speaker 16: first house was two bedroom, had a mezzanine floor as well,

684
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Speaker 16: so it had kind of an offless space, something around

685
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Speaker 16: about five hundred and that's what we could afford and

686
00:31:18,333 --> 00:31:21,893
Speaker 16: it was fine. But you know, when having children, I

687
00:31:21,973 --> 00:31:25,493
Speaker 16: had three sons, I bought a bagar place. You know,

688
00:31:26,333 --> 00:31:29,533
Speaker 16: still what I considered a small section, which was seven

689
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Speaker 16: fifty and that was just around the turn of the

690
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Speaker 16: century Christmas ninety nine. But what that has allowed is

691
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Speaker 16: the kids, especially when they're young, can play football in

692
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Speaker 16: the There was room for the trample and there was

693
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Speaker 16: room for a bunch of fruit trees. I've still got

694
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Speaker 16: two sons at home, and you know, there's also six

695
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Speaker 16: vehicles because both and we've got two. We've got a

696
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Speaker 16: van each and our own vehicle each BLUs. There's a

697
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Speaker 16: motorcycle and two other cars. And you know, if you're

698
00:32:00,613 --> 00:32:04,053
Speaker 16: living that lifestyle and you have kids like that, you

699
00:32:04,173 --> 00:32:06,933
Speaker 16: kind of need it. If you can do it, it's

700
00:32:06,973 --> 00:32:09,053
Speaker 16: all very well. Having a four bit droom house and

701
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Speaker 16: nowhere to park your car, yeah, which I see happening

702
00:32:12,773 --> 00:32:16,093
Speaker 16: all over Auckland. I'm reasonably central Auckland, and you know

703
00:32:16,173 --> 00:32:18,893
Speaker 16: that they're building places with no or one car park,

704
00:32:19,973 --> 00:32:23,293
Speaker 16: well even a single person. Often there's a company vehicle

705
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Speaker 16: on a car and I just you know, life would

706
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Speaker 16: be difficult like that.

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Speaker 2: I think for me, I find it interesting for me

708
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Speaker 2: when you talk about the kids and running around. So

709
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Speaker 2: I live in a townhouse now, it's three stories. My

710
00:32:36,973 --> 00:32:38,773
Speaker 2: kids have never been further away from me in terms

711
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Speaker 2: of space because on the third floor, they're on the

712
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Speaker 2: third floor. They got there owned bathroom up there. They've

713
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Speaker 2: got plenty of space to run around. But yeah, the

714
00:32:46,853 --> 00:32:48,973
Speaker 2: parking is a massive issue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be a big turn off if I

716
00:32:51,093 --> 00:32:52,693
Speaker 4: was looking at just on there, John, if I was

717
00:32:52,733 --> 00:32:55,733
Speaker 4: looking at townhouses or apartments and we may be you know,

718
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Speaker 4: in the near future up in Auckland, if it said

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Speaker 4: no car park, I'd be instantly out because that's a

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Speaker 4: massive thing for a lot of people.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 16: And you know, like if you want a new build,

723
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Speaker 16: they're hard to find if you want to you know,

724
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Speaker 16: like you and your wife, you think, wow, that's great

725
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Speaker 16: if you're going to be in your house for most

726
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Speaker 16: of your lifetime, which I have been. You know, your

727
00:33:17,973 --> 00:33:20,773
Speaker 16: kids are going to get cars as well. And you know,

728
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Speaker 16: I hear what Matt was saying, his kids them never

729
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Speaker 16: further away.

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Speaker 8: Same in our house.

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Speaker 16: They've got their own bathroom and all that sort of thing.

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Speaker 16: But it's just that fact that you don't have to

733
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Speaker 16: take them up the park is a bull go in

734
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Speaker 16: the wawn yeah.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 16: And when they're older, they're big enough to go to

737
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Speaker 16: the footy club on their own and that's sort of thing.

738
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Speaker 3: So I don't know, it just works for us, and

739
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Speaker 3: I just you know, well good on you, John, sounds

740
00:33:42,093 --> 00:33:43,293
Speaker 3: like you're living the dream. Well done.

741
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of people would agree with the

742
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Speaker 4: John absolutely that having some section or at least parking

743
00:33:49,693 --> 00:33:52,973
Speaker 4: is very valuable. O one hundred and eighty ten eighty

744
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Speaker 4: will pick this back up very shortly, and we're hoping

745
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Speaker 4: they have a chat with Barry Soper, our political correspondent. Obviously,

746
00:33:58,653 --> 00:34:02,013
Speaker 4: big news breaking out of Wellington that the Government has

747
00:34:02,053 --> 00:34:06,373
Speaker 4: decided to send in an observer. Simeon Brown has said,

748
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Speaker 4: and I quote, I have been concerned about the Council's

749
00:34:08,773 --> 00:34:13,053
Speaker 4: ability to manage their long term plan amendment and adoption process.

750
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Speaker 4: Following their recent decision to rite it's twenty twenty four

751
00:34:15,652 --> 00:34:18,533
Speaker 4: to thirty four long term plan. He then went to

752
00:34:18,613 --> 00:34:21,373
Speaker 4: say that he has the powers of assistance and intervention

753
00:34:21,533 --> 00:34:24,253
Speaker 4: and relation to a local authority, and he's decided to

754
00:34:24,333 --> 00:34:28,573
Speaker 4: send in a Crown observer to effectively. I mean it's

755
00:34:28,613 --> 00:34:31,212
Speaker 4: a name, isn't it. They will observe, they will open

756
00:34:31,333 --> 00:34:34,173
Speaker 4: up the books and they will determine whether more intervention

757
00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:37,453
Speaker 4: is necessary. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

758
00:34:37,853 --> 00:34:40,853
Speaker 4: number to call? Was this inevitable for Wellington? If you're

759
00:34:40,893 --> 00:34:43,893
Speaker 4: in Wellington, love to hear from you. A couple of

760
00:34:43,973 --> 00:34:47,493
Speaker 4: teps coming through, bloody brilliant news. The Wellington City Council

761
00:34:47,573 --> 00:34:52,252
Speaker 4: are completely dysfunctional, especially the mayor. Need as much help

762
00:34:52,293 --> 00:34:54,652
Speaker 4: as we can get to get Wellington back on track.

763
00:34:54,733 --> 00:34:57,893
Speaker 4: It is the capital that's from Marla. So keep those

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Speaker 4: techs coming through and the phone calls on eight hundred

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. It's eleven to two.

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Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams taking your calls on. Oh, eight hundred

767
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Speaker 1: and eighty Ethan Tyler Adams afternoons news TALKSB.

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Speaker 4: News talks.

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Speaker 3: HEB.

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Speaker 4: So now as we know, local government Minister Simeon Brown

771
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Speaker 4: has decided to place a Crown observer on Wellington City

772
00:35:20,533 --> 00:35:23,973
Speaker 4: Council following its decision to reopen its long term Plan

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Speaker 4: and studio. Is our senior political correspondent Barry Soaper get

774
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Speaker 4: Ape Perry.

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Speaker 17: Hello, Lad's how are we today?

776
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Speaker 3: Very good? Thank you better since you have wanted into

777
00:35:32,613 --> 00:35:37,013
Speaker 3: the room. What powers does an observer have? Not a

778
00:35:37,093 --> 00:35:38,133
Speaker 3: lot of powers.

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Speaker 17: Actually as an observer status, so the person appointed will

780
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Speaker 17: sit in on the meetings. And clearly the city Council

781
00:35:46,973 --> 00:35:50,333
Speaker 17: in Warnington hasn't been going according to plan, in the

782
00:35:50,413 --> 00:35:53,493
Speaker 17: long term plan being the operative plan that they should

783
00:35:53,533 --> 00:35:56,613
Speaker 17: have been after and Tory Farnal has been an absolute

784
00:35:56,773 --> 00:36:01,293
Speaker 17: disaster as mayor. And she was up at Parliament last

785
00:36:01,293 --> 00:36:03,813
Speaker 17: week talking to Sammy and Brown came away as she

786
00:36:03,933 --> 00:36:07,453
Speaker 17: normally does, chirpy and saying, oh no he never mentioned

787
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Speaker 17: anything about intervention. Well, it just goes to show how

788
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Speaker 17: closely she reads the situation.

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Speaker 2: Is that a case with the observer, makes report and

790
00:36:16,693 --> 00:36:19,213
Speaker 2: takes it to the government or is the observer reporting

791
00:36:19,293 --> 00:36:20,013
Speaker 2: back constantly?

792
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Speaker 3: Is this that mol type situation?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

794
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:26,973
Speaker 17: No, constantly that Simmy and Brown as the local government minister,

795
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Speaker 17: he will get reports, updated reports from the observer and

796
00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:36,373
Speaker 17: if they have to take any further intervention then they

797
00:36:36,453 --> 00:36:39,733
Speaker 17: will do based on what the observer is taking in

798
00:36:40,053 --> 00:36:44,333
Speaker 17: that the issue really hearers that it seems that Tory

799
00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:49,293
Speaker 17: Farna and her lot don't understand financing because there is

800
00:36:49,573 --> 00:36:53,613
Speaker 17: under three waters away to finance that the government enabled

801
00:36:53,693 --> 00:36:58,172
Speaker 17: through legislation since becoming government a year ago. Clearly they

802
00:36:58,293 --> 00:37:00,813
Speaker 17: don't know how to do it. So they're going to

803
00:37:00,853 --> 00:37:02,453
Speaker 17: be shown how to do it. And if they didn't

804
00:37:02,533 --> 00:37:06,732
Speaker 17: do it then rates would be front loaded onto rate

805
00:37:06,853 --> 00:37:11,133
Speaker 17: paths to the tune of seven hundred million dollars over

806
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Speaker 17: the next ten years. And I'll tell you what, I'm pleased.

807
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Speaker 17: I'm not a rate payer in Wellington.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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00:37:16,853 --> 00:37:18,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is a big serve, isn't it

810
00:37:18,773 --> 00:37:21,053
Speaker 4: to the council saying bark up or we're going to

811
00:37:21,093 --> 00:37:22,013
Speaker 4: seek you effectively.

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00:37:22,173 --> 00:37:22,293
Speaker 14: Oh?

813
00:37:22,533 --> 00:37:25,292
Speaker 17: Absolutely. You saw it happening in Tarrong. And of course

814
00:37:26,013 --> 00:37:30,652
Speaker 17: they've just concluded with Marty Drysdale. I think the mayor

815
00:37:30,733 --> 00:37:33,373
Speaker 17: and Tarrong are now that they had an election that

816
00:37:33,453 --> 00:37:36,733
Speaker 17: he could have come down harder on the council and

817
00:37:37,533 --> 00:37:41,013
Speaker 17: called for an early election, but that probably would have

818
00:37:41,453 --> 00:37:45,853
Speaker 17: reinforced what is a impossible situation there at the moment.

819
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Speaker 17: So he decided the observer is the best way to go,

820
00:37:49,653 --> 00:37:53,293
Speaker 17: and I happened to agree with him, but it was inevitable.

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Speaker 2: So humiliating for some of the Wellington City Council. But

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00:37:56,493 --> 00:37:57,933
Speaker 2: some of them were keen on this, weren't they.

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Speaker 17: Well, if you look at Nikola Young, for example, she's

824
00:38:01,573 --> 00:38:05,253
Speaker 17: been on z B constantly telling us that an observer

825
00:38:05,413 --> 00:38:09,373
Speaker 17: has to be appointed because they're getting nowhere with Torri Vanu.

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Speaker 17: And you only have to look at recent interviews with

827
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Speaker 17: this mayor to understand that she doesn't understand very much

828
00:38:17,213 --> 00:38:19,413
Speaker 17: about what she's talking about most of the time, and

829
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Speaker 17: even during the course of an interview we'll have to

830
00:38:22,213 --> 00:38:25,692
Speaker 17: correct herself about what she said earlier. And she had

831
00:38:25,733 --> 00:38:27,252
Speaker 17: a rush of blood to the head.

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Speaker 2: So if the preserver keeps reporting back that things are

833
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Speaker 2: dysfunctional and aren't going to improve, do they then bring

834
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Speaker 2: in a commissioner?

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Speaker 17: Yep, they can do that, and that'll override the council

836
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Speaker 17: and make decisions on behalf of what is a democratically

837
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Speaker 17: elected council. You're going to get these screamers on the

838
00:38:44,653 --> 00:38:49,493
Speaker 17: sidelines now saying this is overturning the democratic process. Well, sorry,

839
00:38:49,693 --> 00:38:53,533
Speaker 17: sometimes a democratic process doesn't work the way it should do.

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Speaker 17: And Wellington, there is no doubt that cycle ways seem

841
00:38:59,253 --> 00:39:02,133
Speaker 17: to be more important than waterways, and we've got plenty

842
00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:04,813
Speaker 17: of those flowing down the streets in the Capitol.

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Speaker 10: At the moment.

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Speaker 4: So what happens today? Does the observer going from today

845
00:39:08,013 --> 00:39:10,053
Speaker 4: KEO open the doors and say open up your books

846
00:39:10,053 --> 00:39:11,293
Speaker 4: because I'm here to make change it.

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Speaker 17: No, it's not quite that dramatic, but the minister has

848
00:39:18,733 --> 00:39:21,573
Speaker 17: to appoint. No doubt they've got an observer in mind,

849
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Speaker 17: so they have to appoint one, and there is due

850
00:39:24,933 --> 00:39:28,573
Speaker 17: process to be followed because it is a significant step

851
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Speaker 17: and it's not the first time it's been done, and

852
00:39:31,213 --> 00:39:32,573
Speaker 17: it probably won't be the last.

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Speaker 4: Exciting, As always in.

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Speaker 2: The political fa I just say for first times, great

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Speaker 2: the first time with a Verry Soper breaking news as

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Speaker 2: a real pleasure, exciting.

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Speaker 3: The sting, oh no, they forgot the broken.

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Speaker 4: Developing news. We'll get that after I go off, we'll

859
00:39:53,133 --> 00:39:54,333
Speaker 4: just say, well you've already heard it.

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Speaker 3: Well we'll end with that, staying yeah, but it's the first.

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Speaker 4: I wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty Love to

862
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Speaker 4: hear your thoughts on this, particularly if you're in Wellington,

863
00:40:04,973 --> 00:40:06,533
Speaker 4: but if you're not in Wellington, love to hear from

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00:40:06,573 --> 00:40:06,933
Speaker 4: you as well.

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Speaker 3: I'll wait hundred and eighty ten.

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Speaker 4: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 5: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathan Tyler Adams Afternoons new for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 4: Good afternoons here, welcome back into the show. Wow Wow Wow.

871
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Speaker 4: Big news out of Wellington today, So the government sees

872
00:40:26,653 --> 00:40:29,933
Speaker 4: it plans to appoint a Crown observer to Wellington City Council.

873
00:40:30,053 --> 00:40:33,013
Speaker 4: Councilors have been eying up potential cuts to their ten

874
00:40:33,093 --> 00:40:35,413
Speaker 4: year budget after doing a U turn on selling the

875
00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:39,373
Speaker 4: cities thirty four percent shareholding in Wellington Airports. So today

876
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Speaker 4: Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says an observer would assist

877
00:40:43,173 --> 00:40:47,853
Speaker 4: the council to develop a financially sustainable long term plan

878
00:40:48,013 --> 00:40:50,973
Speaker 4: pretty much get your s together. Brown has been given

879
00:40:51,013 --> 00:40:53,933
Speaker 4: advice from the Department of Internal Affairs. He says the

880
00:40:54,013 --> 00:40:58,053
Speaker 4: council was not utilizing its balance sheet appropriately in order

881
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Speaker 4: to maintain critical infrastructure like water.

882
00:41:01,733 --> 00:41:04,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, so decision to pay for most of its water

883
00:41:04,053 --> 00:41:08,053
Speaker 2: investment with rates rather than debt, which was, as Brown said,

884
00:41:08,053 --> 00:41:10,973
Speaker 2: would charge Wellington City great Pass by seven hundred million

885
00:41:10,973 --> 00:41:13,692
Speaker 2: over the next few years rates going through the roof

886
00:41:13,733 --> 00:41:14,213
Speaker 2: and Wellington.

887
00:41:14,293 --> 00:41:17,253
Speaker 3: Is it the right move? Eighty you think it's the

888
00:41:17,333 --> 00:41:17,573
Speaker 3: right move?

889
00:41:17,693 --> 00:41:19,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh one hundred and eighteen eighty. Was this the

890
00:41:19,613 --> 00:41:21,733
Speaker 4: right move for the government to put in an observer?

891
00:41:21,893 --> 00:41:22,053
Speaker 15: Yeah?

892
00:41:22,093 --> 00:41:25,453
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think it was. This is the least dramatic

893
00:41:25,533 --> 00:41:27,933
Speaker 4: option the government had to Wintervene is to put in

894
00:41:28,293 --> 00:41:30,133
Speaker 4: an observer. And we don't know who that is yet,

895
00:41:30,173 --> 00:41:32,652
Speaker 4: but it will be a high profile person to get

896
00:41:32,693 --> 00:41:35,613
Speaker 4: in there and just observe, to open up the books,

897
00:41:35,653 --> 00:41:38,253
Speaker 4: to look to see where the conflicts are arising, to

898
00:41:38,373 --> 00:41:43,053
Speaker 4: see whether they are making sensible financial decisions on behalf

899
00:41:43,133 --> 00:41:45,653
Speaker 4: of the people of Wellington. But also remember this is

900
00:41:45,733 --> 00:41:49,853
Speaker 4: our this is our capital, this is one of the largest.

901
00:41:51,013 --> 00:41:53,733
Speaker 2: Zeal Does that mean obviously having in toto but is

902
00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:58,493
Speaker 2: it more in a way humiliating that it's our center

903
00:41:58,573 --> 00:42:01,613
Speaker 2: of government, It's it's Wellington, it's our capital that is

904
00:42:01,693 --> 00:42:03,293
Speaker 2: having an observer put in on its council.

905
00:42:03,493 --> 00:42:05,493
Speaker 4: To me, it is and we know what happened in

906
00:42:05,573 --> 00:42:10,613
Speaker 4: Totong's case and very recently had another election, a democratic election,

907
00:42:10,813 --> 00:42:12,693
Speaker 4: and Mahi Drysdale was a new mayor. But in that

908
00:42:12,893 --> 00:42:16,253
Speaker 4: case it was deep seated conflict with the councilors that

909
00:42:16,413 --> 00:42:18,813
Speaker 4: they could not resolve, so the government felt it had

910
00:42:18,893 --> 00:42:21,533
Speaker 4: no choice but to send in commissioners. Hasn't got to

911
00:42:21,613 --> 00:42:26,773
Speaker 4: that stage in Wellington yet. But if the observer is

912
00:42:26,933 --> 00:42:29,173
Speaker 4: not happy with what they see when they're in the

913
00:42:29,253 --> 00:42:31,693
Speaker 4: city council and they open up those books and they

914
00:42:31,773 --> 00:42:36,053
Speaker 4: see some rarely unorthodox decisions being made, it's not off

915
00:42:36,093 --> 00:42:36,493
Speaker 4: the table.

916
00:42:36,693 --> 00:42:37,293
Speaker 3: But did they know.

917
00:42:37,453 --> 00:42:39,253
Speaker 2: I mean, the observer knows what they're going to find.

918
00:42:39,413 --> 00:42:41,493
Speaker 2: The observer's going into report back to the government what

919
00:42:41,653 --> 00:42:44,893
Speaker 2: you'd expect to find. It's almost feels a little bit

920
00:42:44,933 --> 00:42:46,293
Speaker 2: to me like a shot across the bows.

921
00:42:46,893 --> 00:42:48,893
Speaker 4: Certainly. Yeah, i'd agree with that. Does it make you

922
00:42:48,973 --> 00:42:53,573
Speaker 4: nervous though, that the government would come into a city

923
00:42:53,653 --> 00:42:56,453
Speaker 4: council and at this stage it's just an observer. But

924
00:42:56,653 --> 00:43:01,053
Speaker 4: these people, rightly or wrongly, were democratically elected into that

925
00:43:01,173 --> 00:43:04,053
Speaker 4: position and the government's come in and saying you're getting

926
00:43:04,093 --> 00:43:04,413
Speaker 4: it wrong.

927
00:43:05,053 --> 00:43:06,973
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean it's a big move, isn't it,

928
00:43:07,053 --> 00:43:09,293
Speaker 2: Because as you say, they're they're the Council. They've been

929
00:43:09,373 --> 00:43:12,253
Speaker 2: voted for by the Wellington people, so asn't a move

930
00:43:12,293 --> 00:43:15,253
Speaker 2: that would be taken lightly. But do you agree as

931
00:43:15,333 --> 00:43:19,413
Speaker 2: Nicola Willis said that the situation is a shambles in Wellington?

932
00:43:19,773 --> 00:43:21,853
Speaker 2: Do you think it was an overreaction or an or

933
00:43:21,893 --> 00:43:23,973
Speaker 2: an underreaction? O e one hundred and eighteen.

934
00:43:23,693 --> 00:43:26,213
Speaker 4: Eighty nine two ninety two is the text number.

935
00:43:26,333 --> 00:43:31,573
Speaker 1: It is ten past two, your new home of Afternoon

936
00:43:31,693 --> 00:43:34,652
Speaker 1: Talk and even Taylor Adams Afternoon Call.

937
00:43:34,813 --> 00:43:37,533
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be.

938
00:43:38,493 --> 00:43:40,293
Speaker 4: Good afternoon, it's twelve past two.

939
00:43:40,693 --> 00:43:42,733
Speaker 2: Gay Sparky, what do you think about this move to

940
00:43:43,613 --> 00:43:45,933
Speaker 2: insert an observer into the Wellington City Council?

941
00:43:47,413 --> 00:43:47,533
Speaker 14: Oh?

942
00:43:47,613 --> 00:43:49,373
Speaker 19: Good ey, guys, Matt and Tyler, how are you going?

943
00:43:50,093 --> 00:43:50,293
Speaker 20: Yeah?

944
00:43:50,693 --> 00:43:54,212
Speaker 19: I think it's a really good move. My blood starts

945
00:43:54,253 --> 00:43:56,533
Speaker 19: boiling actually when I start talking about council affairs and

946
00:43:57,973 --> 00:44:00,893
Speaker 19: this current administration. But yeah, I think it's a good

947
00:44:00,933 --> 00:44:05,413
Speaker 19: idea because clearly we can't we can't manage our books

948
00:44:05,773 --> 00:44:09,453
Speaker 19: and we need someone independent to come in and just

949
00:44:09,533 --> 00:44:11,373
Speaker 19: sort of have a second look over things. I mean,

950
00:44:11,853 --> 00:44:13,613
Speaker 19: probably need to have a counselor rang in as well,

951
00:44:13,653 --> 00:44:16,053
Speaker 19: because I don't know the ender workings of how council works,

952
00:44:16,173 --> 00:44:20,053
Speaker 19: but just there's so many things of this current council

953
00:44:20,173 --> 00:44:24,013
Speaker 19: that just make me really angry, like all the wasteful,

954
00:44:24,813 --> 00:44:29,013
Speaker 19: like all the wasteful spending, the town hall projectors. It's

955
00:44:29,053 --> 00:44:30,973
Speaker 19: been going on for like about eight years. I think

956
00:44:31,053 --> 00:44:34,172
Speaker 19: it still looks like a bomb site. So I can't

957
00:44:34,213 --> 00:44:36,693
Speaker 19: imagine how much that must have cost so far. I know,

958
00:44:36,773 --> 00:44:40,133
Speaker 19: the blood the budget has been blown on that three

959
00:44:40,213 --> 00:44:42,973
Speaker 19: or four times over. Then you've got, you know, we

960
00:44:43,093 --> 00:44:46,213
Speaker 19: really need to spend money on critical infrastructure, like all

961
00:44:46,253 --> 00:44:47,653
Speaker 19: the water leaks and all that.

962
00:44:50,173 --> 00:44:51,493
Speaker 21: You know, you've got.

963
00:44:53,293 --> 00:44:57,573
Speaker 19: The library down here, which was earthquake prone and they're

964
00:44:57,573 --> 00:45:00,533
Speaker 19: doing a project to strengthen that. They had the option

965
00:45:00,693 --> 00:45:02,933
Speaker 19: to demo it and rebuild it for about a third

966
00:45:02,973 --> 00:45:07,333
Speaker 19: of the cost, but decided to strengthen it. And you know,

967
00:45:07,533 --> 00:45:10,013
Speaker 19: you've got to feel for the rate payers, you know,

968
00:45:10,133 --> 00:45:13,013
Speaker 19: first home buyers, you know, the elderly who are paying rates,

969
00:45:13,053 --> 00:45:16,613
Speaker 19: and they're just so wasteful with their spending. Here is

970
00:45:16,813 --> 00:45:17,733
Speaker 19: an arrogance about it.

971
00:45:18,413 --> 00:45:22,253
Speaker 4: I saw that story Sparky about the water bill average

972
00:45:22,293 --> 00:45:24,933
Speaker 4: water bill for Wellington, and that made my eyes water

973
00:45:25,813 --> 00:45:28,573
Speaker 4: because that was I think on average six hundred bucks

974
00:45:28,613 --> 00:45:30,933
Speaker 4: a month. I mean that alone would make a lot

975
00:45:31,013 --> 00:45:34,093
Speaker 4: of people very irate in Wellington. And that doesn't take

976
00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:36,732
Speaker 4: into account the increases and rates that you've got over there,

977
00:45:36,973 --> 00:45:40,293
Speaker 4: just on the airport sale debarcle, and it was a debarcle.

978
00:45:40,533 --> 00:45:43,333
Speaker 4: Where did you sit on that? Were you annoyed that

979
00:45:43,453 --> 00:45:44,973
Speaker 4: they just seemed to be all over the shop or

980
00:45:45,013 --> 00:45:47,213
Speaker 4: were you happy that they made the right decision in

981
00:45:47,253 --> 00:45:47,493
Speaker 4: the end.

982
00:45:49,813 --> 00:45:52,133
Speaker 19: Well, I think I don't know the full details, but

983
00:45:52,253 --> 00:45:54,493
Speaker 19: I think it came down to one vote or something

984
00:45:54,573 --> 00:45:59,173
Speaker 19: like that. And you know, I reckon they should have

985
00:45:59,213 --> 00:46:03,173
Speaker 19: actually borrowed, you know, as in debt to fund a

986
00:46:03,213 --> 00:46:04,853
Speaker 19: lot of the infrastructure stuff that we need to do.

987
00:46:05,293 --> 00:46:07,373
Speaker 19: It probably would have supported selling some of the shares here,

988
00:46:07,373 --> 00:46:10,053
Speaker 19: why not to perhaps cash to pay for that stuff.

989
00:46:10,133 --> 00:46:12,893
Speaker 19: But you know, to put it back on right fas

990
00:46:12,933 --> 00:46:15,053
Speaker 19: really unfair. I think we had a fifteen or sixteen

991
00:46:15,093 --> 00:46:17,333
Speaker 19: percent increase this year. You can't just keep doing that,

992
00:46:17,493 --> 00:46:21,773
Speaker 19: you know, like wages are squeezed, cost of living crisis.

993
00:46:23,013 --> 00:46:25,253
Speaker 19: So I think we've got quite a low sort of

994
00:46:25,413 --> 00:46:29,493
Speaker 19: borrowing relative to the asset based down here as well.

995
00:46:29,653 --> 00:46:32,933
Speaker 19: So there's plenty of capacity to borrow, so why not

996
00:46:33,093 --> 00:46:34,692
Speaker 19: You know, we should have done it when rates are lower,

997
00:46:34,773 --> 00:46:37,413
Speaker 19: but now rates are a bit higher. But yeah, that's

998
00:46:37,453 --> 00:46:37,933
Speaker 19: my tay, So.

999
00:46:37,933 --> 00:46:41,893
Speaker 2: Sparky, do you think that the problems in Wellington are surmountable,

1000
00:46:42,373 --> 00:46:45,333
Speaker 2: that with the right leadership then the right decisions could

1001
00:46:45,373 --> 00:46:49,013
Speaker 2: be made and the right forward you know, you can

1002
00:46:49,093 --> 00:46:52,973
Speaker 2: move forward in a more sensible situation. Did you think

1003
00:46:52,973 --> 00:46:55,573
Speaker 2: that the problems are just massive and anyone would mess

1004
00:46:55,613 --> 00:46:55,893
Speaker 2: them up?

1005
00:46:56,893 --> 00:47:01,253
Speaker 19: I think I definitely think it's it can be changed

1006
00:47:01,653 --> 00:47:03,613
Speaker 19: with a fresh set of people coming in. Yeah, for sure.

1007
00:47:03,853 --> 00:47:06,893
Speaker 19: You look back at the previous may or two years ago,

1008
00:47:07,013 --> 00:47:08,573
Speaker 19: justin Lester, I think it was a pretty good guy.

1009
00:47:08,573 --> 00:47:10,413
Speaker 19: I didn't know it personally, but he came across as

1010
00:47:10,573 --> 00:47:13,573
Speaker 19: someone that could get things done and generally good guy.

1011
00:47:15,173 --> 00:47:17,533
Speaker 19: But yeah, the current crop, well, I don't know if

1012
00:47:17,533 --> 00:47:19,333
Speaker 19: it's just Tory or just some of your mates, but

1013
00:47:20,173 --> 00:47:23,373
Speaker 19: I don't know. It just seems it seems to be

1014
00:47:23,453 --> 00:47:27,293
Speaker 19: that they don't really know what they're doing or I

1015
00:47:27,333 --> 00:47:29,013
Speaker 19: don't know, they don't know how to manage the books.

1016
00:47:29,053 --> 00:47:32,093
Speaker 19: But I think you can definitely have a fresh set

1017
00:47:32,133 --> 00:47:34,013
Speaker 19: of people come and do it. I look at what

1018
00:47:34,253 --> 00:47:36,253
Speaker 19: Christ Church are doing down there with a little bit

1019
00:47:36,293 --> 00:47:38,413
Speaker 19: of envy. You know, they've got a new stadium going

1020
00:47:38,493 --> 00:47:41,813
Speaker 19: up down there, and you know, seems to be like

1021
00:47:42,853 --> 00:47:46,933
Speaker 19: there's a bit of positivity down there and general optimism

1022
00:47:47,013 --> 00:47:49,013
Speaker 19: and things are getting done. So I sort of look

1023
00:47:49,493 --> 00:47:51,973
Speaker 19: down there and think maybe these guys should have what

1024
00:47:52,093 --> 00:47:52,732
Speaker 19: they're down there.

1025
00:47:52,893 --> 00:47:55,333
Speaker 4: It's only recently though, to be fierce barking. I say

1026
00:47:55,413 --> 00:48:00,053
Speaker 4: that as someone who lived in Canterbury for almost fifteen years,

1027
00:48:00,133 --> 00:48:03,133
Speaker 4: and you're right, there is harmony is not the right word,

1028
00:48:03,253 --> 00:48:05,933
Speaker 4: but there is some decisions being made. But that christ

1029
00:48:06,053 --> 00:48:08,533
Speaker 4: Utch was a basket case for a long time, else

1030
00:48:08,573 --> 00:48:12,652
Speaker 4: fighting with the council several CEOs. So you know, don't

1031
00:48:12,653 --> 00:48:15,173
Speaker 4: feel too bad about Wellington and luckily you've got an

1032
00:48:15,213 --> 00:48:16,133
Speaker 4: observer coming in there.

1033
00:48:16,853 --> 00:48:19,293
Speaker 19: I think it's a nationwide thing, like so many councils,

1034
00:48:19,333 --> 00:48:22,093
Speaker 19: sorry to just bad counselors, and it just seems to

1035
00:48:22,133 --> 00:48:24,013
Speaker 19: be a nationwide thing that well I.

1036
00:48:25,013 --> 00:48:27,933
Speaker 2: Think one of the problems is maybe there's an observer

1037
00:48:28,133 --> 00:48:31,973
Speaker 2: going into Wellington, but as a voting public, we don't

1038
00:48:32,053 --> 00:48:34,213
Speaker 2: really take any notice of our councils till they come in.

1039
00:48:34,813 --> 00:48:36,613
Speaker 2: We don't read all the details and a lot of

1040
00:48:36,653 --> 00:48:38,933
Speaker 2: people don't vote, and they actually have a whole lot

1041
00:48:38,973 --> 00:48:42,213
Speaker 2: of power and they affect your life in quite quite

1042
00:48:42,373 --> 00:48:46,013
Speaker 2: major ways. So if we could somehow as a nation

1043
00:48:46,253 --> 00:48:48,413
Speaker 2: take more time to think about who we elect, it

1044
00:48:48,493 --> 00:48:49,453
Speaker 2: might make a big difference.

1045
00:48:50,093 --> 00:48:52,773
Speaker 19: Absolutely, We'll got Like, I think, only twenty five percent

1046
00:48:52,813 --> 00:48:55,692
Speaker 19: of eligible voters actually vote, So people this time around

1047
00:48:55,853 --> 00:48:56,613
Speaker 19: really need to get off.

1048
00:48:57,093 --> 00:49:01,773
Speaker 2: I mean, a good marketing campaign can change everything when

1049
00:49:01,773 --> 00:49:03,653
Speaker 2: you're only getting twenty five percent of people voting.

1050
00:49:03,813 --> 00:49:06,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, great stuff, Thank you very much, Barkie, and I'm

1051
00:49:07,013 --> 00:49:09,813
Speaker 4: glad for you. You sound that you're happy that and

1052
00:49:09,933 --> 00:49:12,613
Speaker 4: Observer's coming into sort things out because as you say,

1053
00:49:12,773 --> 00:49:15,133
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of Wellington residents are feeling

1054
00:49:15,213 --> 00:49:18,533
Speaker 4: this that things are a bit of a shambles and

1055
00:49:18,693 --> 00:49:20,133
Speaker 4: so they need to sort themselves out.

1056
00:49:20,333 --> 00:49:22,093
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, are we getting anyone at all that's

1057
00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:24,133
Speaker 2: coming through saying this is a bad idea and that

1058
00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:27,373
Speaker 2: they're all in on the Wellington City Council.

1059
00:49:27,733 --> 00:49:30,733
Speaker 4: A couple here's one of them, afternoon guys. I believe

1060
00:49:30,813 --> 00:49:34,053
Speaker 4: the government has only put an observer in in Wellington

1061
00:49:34,253 --> 00:49:36,333
Speaker 4: because the council is left leaning and the government is

1062
00:49:36,413 --> 00:49:39,252
Speaker 4: right leaning. A right government sacking a left council would

1063
00:49:39,373 --> 00:49:41,613
Speaker 4: cause a massive uproar.

1064
00:49:41,933 --> 00:49:44,733
Speaker 2: So Wayne thinks it's all going well in Wellington and

1065
00:49:45,133 --> 00:49:46,453
Speaker 2: their council is functional.

1066
00:49:46,613 --> 00:49:46,973
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1067
00:49:47,573 --> 00:49:51,973
Speaker 4: Well, just to Extender's point there, I think I agree

1068
00:49:52,013 --> 00:49:54,573
Speaker 4: that an observer is the right move. I don't know

1069
00:49:54,653 --> 00:49:56,533
Speaker 4: if i'd say the same if they said you're all

1070
00:49:56,653 --> 00:49:59,813
Speaker 4: sacked and we're putting in commissioners, I would probably have

1071
00:49:59,853 --> 00:50:04,373
Speaker 4: a different opinion, thinking ooh, that's the nuclear option. And

1072
00:50:04,453 --> 00:50:06,133
Speaker 4: I don't think they were there at that point. But

1073
00:50:06,333 --> 00:50:07,933
Speaker 4: if you disagree with me, to love to hear from you.

1074
00:50:08,013 --> 00:50:10,013
Speaker 4: O hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1075
00:50:10,253 --> 00:50:12,453
Speaker 4: Nine two ninety two is the text number. It's nineteen

1076
00:50:12,533 --> 00:50:12,973
Speaker 4: past two.

1077
00:50:17,493 --> 00:50:18,853
Speaker 5: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams.

1078
00:50:18,973 --> 00:50:22,172
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on News

1079
00:50:22,293 --> 00:50:24,173
Speaker 1: TALKSB News Talks.

1080
00:50:24,173 --> 00:50:26,133
Speaker 4: He be good afternoon to you. We are talking about

1081
00:50:26,133 --> 00:50:31,293
Speaker 4: the Crown Observer coming into Wellington City Council. Details are

1082
00:50:31,373 --> 00:50:34,213
Speaker 4: yet to come about who that observer is, but we

1083
00:50:34,333 --> 00:50:36,773
Speaker 4: do know the council has made quite quite a drastic

1084
00:50:36,813 --> 00:50:40,453
Speaker 4: step to put that observer in to have a review

1085
00:50:40,573 --> 00:50:43,093
Speaker 4: of how the council is operating. They are not happy I.

1086
00:50:43,133 --> 00:50:45,893
Speaker 2: Always think of how awkward it is for the observer coming.

1087
00:50:46,213 --> 00:50:50,933
Speaker 2: So it's just hello, Monday morning. Can I yeah, observer,

1088
00:50:51,213 --> 00:50:52,453
Speaker 2: I'm going to sitting in the corner.

1089
00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:54,613
Speaker 3: Don't mind me. Just I'll be looking through here. I'll

1090
00:50:54,613 --> 00:50:55,573
Speaker 3: be farting around there.

1091
00:50:55,733 --> 00:50:58,093
Speaker 2: I'll be reporting back to the government on you guys

1092
00:50:58,093 --> 00:50:59,333
Speaker 2: because you haven't been getting it right.

1093
00:50:59,573 --> 00:51:02,453
Speaker 4: They will be treated like royalty when that person comes

1094
00:51:02,493 --> 00:51:05,533
Speaker 4: through the doors. Yes sir, please sir. Three begs full sir.

1095
00:51:05,613 --> 00:51:08,293
Speaker 4: They'll do whatever they are. Well, how are you mate?

1096
00:51:09,133 --> 00:51:11,893
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, good afternoon. Actually I didn't know that it

1097
00:51:12,053 --> 00:51:14,093
Speaker 9: just happened. I was going to say I was hoping

1098
00:51:14,173 --> 00:51:20,093
Speaker 9: it would happen. I'm a Wellingtonian and look, I've seen

1099
00:51:20,133 --> 00:51:22,093
Speaker 9: an action. I've actually seen an action.

1100
00:51:22,373 --> 00:51:23,453
Speaker 5: They hate that.

1101
00:51:23,693 --> 00:51:29,652
Speaker 9: There's they hate each other. I've actually seen an actor

1102
00:51:29,733 --> 00:51:35,253
Speaker 9: and it's embarrassing. And they clearly cannot work together. They

1103
00:51:35,373 --> 00:51:39,213
Speaker 9: just can't. And you also have a council doing a thing.

1104
00:51:39,333 --> 00:51:39,533
Speaker 15: Is that.

1105
00:51:41,773 --> 00:51:44,333
Speaker 9: Most from what I can get, most people don't want it,

1106
00:51:45,413 --> 00:51:48,773
Speaker 9: but they have to accept responsibility to not just the

1107
00:51:48,893 --> 00:51:51,093
Speaker 9: counsel for the way all this has gone, so that

1108
00:51:51,213 --> 00:51:53,853
Speaker 9: the people who haven't bothered to vote all these years

1109
00:51:55,053 --> 00:51:58,292
Speaker 9: and it's a sizeable amount. I mean, it's way under

1110
00:51:58,413 --> 00:51:59,893
Speaker 9: half that have voted.

1111
00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:02,133
Speaker 5: I go back.

1112
00:52:02,413 --> 00:52:05,653
Speaker 9: My father fought in the Second World War, yep, and

1113
00:52:05,893 --> 00:52:08,773
Speaker 9: for one of those reasons he and all the other.

1114
00:52:09,573 --> 00:52:14,293
Speaker 5: Service people was to ensure that we all had the

1115
00:52:14,453 --> 00:52:15,133
Speaker 5: right to vote.

1116
00:52:15,333 --> 00:52:15,573
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1117
00:52:15,973 --> 00:52:18,973
Speaker 9: Now, and I'm a person that believes if you don't

1118
00:52:19,293 --> 00:52:22,053
Speaker 9: it's all very well, getting out there every xact day

1119
00:52:22,093 --> 00:52:25,493
Speaker 9: and going oh look at me, look at me, virtue signing.

1120
00:52:26,093 --> 00:52:29,253
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm glad they do, but please don't stop.

1121
00:52:29,933 --> 00:52:34,933
Speaker 9: But these are the principles of what they thought for voting,

1122
00:52:35,133 --> 00:52:38,573
Speaker 9: the right to vote for your own choice, you know,

1123
00:52:39,013 --> 00:52:42,013
Speaker 9: and not have everything enforce on you. So people, you've

1124
00:52:42,013 --> 00:52:45,253
Speaker 9: got to get off your butts and let's vote people

1125
00:52:45,373 --> 00:52:48,653
Speaker 9: in that can fix the city. At the moment, we

1126
00:52:48,813 --> 00:52:51,453
Speaker 9: don't have a council that seems to be able to well,

1127
00:52:51,493 --> 00:52:54,733
Speaker 9: it doesn't seem to be able to It can't function together.

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00:52:55,813 --> 00:52:58,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's true.

1129
00:52:58,733 --> 00:53:01,212
Speaker 2: Actually, it isn't interesting how much we've spent talking about

1130
00:53:01,253 --> 00:53:03,333
Speaker 2: democracy and how important democracy is, but then when it

1131
00:53:03,413 --> 00:53:07,813
Speaker 2: comes to an election, especially local body elections, no one

1132
00:53:08,013 --> 00:53:08,893
Speaker 2: behind to.

1133
00:53:09,213 --> 00:53:11,773
Speaker 4: Vote, not on local government. I mean, the idea was

1134
00:53:11,773 --> 00:53:13,573
Speaker 4: floated around. I don't know if this would help. That

1135
00:53:13,733 --> 00:53:17,053
Speaker 4: would have like the general election. You've got your Saturday,

1136
00:53:17,133 --> 00:53:19,013
Speaker 4: so you get all the polling boost lined up and

1137
00:53:19,093 --> 00:53:21,413
Speaker 4: everybody knows it's on Saturday and you see the flags.

1138
00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:23,413
Speaker 4: Do you think that would make any difference? Maybe a

1139
00:53:23,493 --> 00:53:25,413
Speaker 4: little bit of difference, So I wonderful.

1140
00:53:25,653 --> 00:53:27,533
Speaker 2: An observer also works as a little bit of an

1141
00:53:27,573 --> 00:53:31,253
Speaker 2: adult in the room. If the council hates each other

1142
00:53:31,653 --> 00:53:34,093
Speaker 2: as well said as having an observer in the room

1143
00:53:34,173 --> 00:53:36,493
Speaker 2: make you pay a little bit better?

1144
00:53:36,893 --> 00:53:38,293
Speaker 3: Is the observer going to go back to the government,

1145
00:53:38,373 --> 00:53:39,573
Speaker 3: go boy oh boy, they.

1146
00:53:42,333 --> 00:53:43,573
Speaker 4: I've got some stories for you.

1147
00:53:43,773 --> 00:53:46,053
Speaker 3: So seeing in the commissioner because they hate each other.

1148
00:53:46,293 --> 00:53:46,973
Speaker 4: Hey you Beryl.

1149
00:53:49,213 --> 00:53:51,772
Speaker 20: Hello, dear gentlemen, how are you very good?

1150
00:53:52,253 --> 00:53:53,613
Speaker 4: Better now that we're chatting.

1151
00:53:53,373 --> 00:53:57,933
Speaker 20: With you, I'm so pleased, like having the sun coming

1152
00:53:58,053 --> 00:54:00,933
Speaker 20: through two men. There'll be a lot of ladies out

1153
00:54:00,973 --> 00:54:10,853
Speaker 20: there jealous of me. I don't want to make sorry Darling. Okay, now,

1154
00:54:10,933 --> 00:54:14,013
Speaker 20: I don't want to make light of this Wellington situation

1155
00:54:14,573 --> 00:54:18,293
Speaker 20: because it affects me as well. But when I hear

1156
00:54:18,333 --> 00:54:22,292
Speaker 20: anything coming up about the Wellington City Council, I start

1157
00:54:22,413 --> 00:54:25,573
Speaker 20: thinking of that song. I think brought out by the

1158
00:54:25,653 --> 00:54:29,933
Speaker 20: animals called Lola and that guy thinking about we live

1159
00:54:29,973 --> 00:54:36,013
Speaker 20: in the mixed up mad something world. But I've got

1160
00:54:36,093 --> 00:54:39,093
Speaker 20: me Lola, And I don't know why that song comes down,

1161
00:54:39,213 --> 00:54:44,373
Speaker 20: but maybe because they are a mixed up crazy lot

1162
00:54:44,453 --> 00:54:49,652
Speaker 20: that are running running that council. But my main thing

1163
00:54:49,813 --> 00:54:53,013
Speaker 20: is I don't want them selling the soul a weird gentleman.

1164
00:54:54,293 --> 00:54:56,493
Speaker 20: You know, it worries me about it because I mean,

1165
00:54:56,693 --> 00:54:59,133
Speaker 20: it's not like it's not bringing in money. And you

1166
00:54:59,213 --> 00:55:02,453
Speaker 20: see once that's gone. I mean it reminds me of

1167
00:55:02,653 --> 00:55:05,772
Speaker 20: the health Department. It doesn't matter how much money any

1168
00:55:05,853 --> 00:55:08,732
Speaker 20: government throws at it, it still wants more and more.

1169
00:55:08,773 --> 00:55:14,053
Speaker 20: It's and just we're starting utuitima. It's like a baby

1170
00:55:14,173 --> 00:55:17,693
Speaker 20: bood with the mother gets the fish and the baby

1171
00:55:17,773 --> 00:55:20,812
Speaker 20: keeps on wanting to be fed. So I would hate

1172
00:55:20,853 --> 00:55:26,533
Speaker 20: them to sell the airport shares because that's part of

1173
00:55:26,733 --> 00:55:32,453
Speaker 20: the silverware. And you know, whatever happens, because you know,

1174
00:55:32,693 --> 00:55:37,373
Speaker 20: any city will keep on wanting and wanting and wanting.

1175
00:55:37,533 --> 00:55:38,293
Speaker 6: And we're not.

1176
00:55:38,893 --> 00:55:41,893
Speaker 20: We're just going to lose something that brings in a

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00:55:41,933 --> 00:55:42,533
Speaker 20: bit of money.

1178
00:55:42,693 --> 00:55:44,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was making good money the airport.

1179
00:55:44,733 --> 00:55:45,893
Speaker 3: Thanks so much. We called Bert.

1180
00:55:45,973 --> 00:55:48,493
Speaker 2: I think part of the problem is selling the airport shares,

1181
00:55:48,573 --> 00:55:50,693
Speaker 2: but then not cutting spending was what a lot of

1182
00:55:50,733 --> 00:55:53,093
Speaker 2: the argument was. Those that were pro selling the shares

1183
00:55:53,453 --> 00:55:55,493
Speaker 2: want to cut in spending as well. But I think,

1184
00:55:56,093 --> 00:55:59,373
Speaker 2: you know, if you go back to Laurel Lola girls,

1185
00:55:59,493 --> 00:56:01,773
Speaker 2: we've boys boar with girls. It's a mixed up, modled up,

1186
00:56:01,773 --> 00:56:03,333
Speaker 2: shook up world. It's a little bit of a different

1187
00:56:03,333 --> 00:56:03,973
Speaker 2: issue in there.

1188
00:56:03,853 --> 00:56:05,732
Speaker 4: With the ll She was great on the analogy. Thank

1189
00:56:05,733 --> 00:56:08,652
Speaker 4: you very much, beer all mar great song, Lola Mark.

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00:56:08,693 --> 00:56:09,493
Speaker 4: What do you think about this?

1191
00:56:10,533 --> 00:56:13,853
Speaker 18: Oh, guys, it's it's a very good thing that it's occurred.

1192
00:56:14,533 --> 00:56:20,413
Speaker 18: One Wellington is I put it this way, there's people

1193
00:56:20,453 --> 00:56:22,653
Speaker 18: in the suburbs, the working class people in the suburbs

1194
00:56:22,653 --> 00:56:26,732
Speaker 18: are being held ransom by the inner city tofts who

1195
00:56:26,853 --> 00:56:30,373
Speaker 18: want this, who want their special stuff. There's the line

1196
00:56:30,453 --> 00:56:33,973
Speaker 18: in the movie Civil War, the Marvel movie, the young

1197
00:56:34,053 --> 00:56:38,773
Speaker 18: Spider Man character says to Captain America, you're dangerous because

1198
00:56:38,813 --> 00:56:46,093
Speaker 18: you think you're right. That is the problem with Tory

1199
00:56:46,173 --> 00:56:48,652
Speaker 18: and Cohen Wellington. They think they're right.

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00:56:49,413 --> 00:56:51,213
Speaker 2: It is an interesting set up on Wellington, isn't it,

1201
00:56:51,213 --> 00:56:54,013
Speaker 2: Because Central Wellington is very different from the rest of it.

1202
00:56:54,133 --> 00:56:56,413
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's the capital of New Zealand, it's

1203
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,333
Speaker 2: the capital of government. There's people in a very different

1204
00:56:58,453 --> 00:57:02,813
Speaker 2: employment then the city surrounding your upper hearts and your life.

1205
00:57:02,813 --> 00:57:07,413
Speaker 4: It's a unique electorate, isn't it. Wellington's it is.

1206
00:57:07,533 --> 00:57:08,253
Speaker 9: It's distorted.

1207
00:57:09,173 --> 00:57:11,853
Speaker 18: It's quite distorted due to the fact of the high

1208
00:57:11,933 --> 00:57:14,053
Speaker 18: level of income, low level of low level cost of

1209
00:57:14,093 --> 00:57:17,613
Speaker 18: housing relative to income and Wellington and the concentration of

1210
00:57:18,293 --> 00:57:21,933
Speaker 18: left wing academia in the city. And it creates a look,

1211
00:57:21,933 --> 00:57:26,493
Speaker 18: it's created a toxic soup or gas role for one

1212
00:57:26,573 --> 00:57:31,253
Speaker 18: of a better word, where the ingredients aren't aren't meant

1213
00:57:31,253 --> 00:57:35,573
Speaker 18: to accompany each other. You've got the wrong flavors mixing

1214
00:57:35,653 --> 00:57:39,333
Speaker 18: together and the result that you get is an edible

1215
00:57:39,413 --> 00:57:40,413
Speaker 18: pile of rubbish.

1216
00:57:40,773 --> 00:57:42,973
Speaker 3: On Loving these analogies from the callers, these are great.

1217
00:57:43,013 --> 00:57:44,133
Speaker 4: It's really painting the picture.

1218
00:57:44,333 --> 00:57:46,533
Speaker 3: A love a casse role per fan of cast rob

1219
00:57:46,573 --> 00:57:47,413
Speaker 3: but not a toxic castle.

1220
00:57:47,533 --> 00:57:51,213
Speaker 4: You can't ingredients and they just keep it simple, you know,

1221
00:57:51,493 --> 00:57:54,213
Speaker 4: just stick with the one broth, don't get mixed up

1222
00:57:54,293 --> 00:57:56,733
Speaker 4: on it. But Mark, I'm going to play devil's advocate

1223
00:57:56,813 --> 00:58:01,133
Speaker 4: here that you know, whether you like this council or not.

1224
00:58:01,373 --> 00:58:04,973
Speaker 4: They were voted in and they got those folks meant

1225
00:58:05,013 --> 00:58:07,373
Speaker 4: Tory got the maural tea and they all got their jobs.

1226
00:58:08,013 --> 00:58:11,333
Speaker 4: And just because we don't like the direction that they took,

1227
00:58:11,453 --> 00:58:13,533
Speaker 4: does that really mean that we can turf them all

1228
00:58:13,613 --> 00:58:16,853
Speaker 4: out or is that just inevitable that that you have

1229
00:58:16,973 --> 00:58:19,053
Speaker 4: to wait three years? Yep, we made a mistake. In

1230
00:58:19,133 --> 00:58:20,973
Speaker 4: three years, we're gonna have to live through it, and

1231
00:58:21,213 --> 00:58:22,933
Speaker 4: when we get to that time we'll kick them out.

1232
00:58:23,693 --> 00:58:25,253
Speaker 18: Well, I think we're lucky in the fact that the

1233
00:58:25,293 --> 00:58:28,613
Speaker 18: Minister of Local Government is actually our recall election, which

1234
00:58:28,653 --> 00:58:31,893
Speaker 18: is what he's done here. He's effectively said, look, children,

1235
00:58:32,533 --> 00:58:34,493
Speaker 18: we're going to put the dolls in the room and

1236
00:58:34,573 --> 00:58:36,333
Speaker 18: you're going to have to behave one more into city

1237
00:58:36,413 --> 00:58:39,853
Speaker 18: councilor actually said on another show this is this is

1238
00:58:40,093 --> 00:58:43,133
Speaker 18: this juvenility you're dealing with here. He said, if they

1239
00:58:43,173 --> 00:58:46,013
Speaker 18: put an observer on, people will behave in a performative

1240
00:58:46,093 --> 00:58:52,013
Speaker 18: manner to get attention. Right now, that's Rallingcoln City. You've

1241
00:58:52,093 --> 00:58:56,693
Speaker 18: got cosplay people on the council who want you. I'm

1242
00:58:56,733 --> 00:58:58,493
Speaker 18: surprised they're not dressed up as Darth Vada.

1243
00:58:59,253 --> 00:59:00,533
Speaker 11: We've got someone or whatever.

1244
00:59:00,733 --> 00:59:02,853
Speaker 18: Mary Poppert, That's exactly what's going to happen.

1245
00:59:02,893 --> 00:59:03,053
Speaker 22: Though.

1246
00:59:03,053 --> 00:59:05,013
Speaker 4: It's like when you're in high school and the teachers

1247
00:59:05,053 --> 00:59:07,733
Speaker 4: not in the room and it's absolute chaos and you're

1248
00:59:07,773 --> 00:59:10,773
Speaker 4: throwing things around the roman as soon as the teacher

1249
00:59:10,813 --> 00:59:13,733
Speaker 4: walks through. Oh sorry, sir, sorry, sir, Ready to learn, sir.

1250
00:59:13,853 --> 00:59:15,853
Speaker 4: That's exactly what it's going to be. Mark, thank you

1251
00:59:16,013 --> 00:59:16,453
Speaker 4: very much.

1252
00:59:17,453 --> 00:59:18,413
Speaker 5: Here the boyd all right?

1253
00:59:18,493 --> 00:59:21,533
Speaker 4: That go well, Trevor will get you in before the headlines.

1254
00:59:21,533 --> 00:59:21,893
Speaker 4: How are you?

1255
00:59:22,893 --> 00:59:23,093
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1256
00:59:23,173 --> 00:59:23,373
Speaker 5: Good?

1257
00:59:23,653 --> 00:59:23,813
Speaker 14: Here?

1258
00:59:23,853 --> 00:59:26,653
Speaker 23: Look, I'm from down here. I'm from the Heart Valley,

1259
00:59:26,653 --> 00:59:28,813
Speaker 23: which is slightly different. But I've always considered wanting in

1260
00:59:28,933 --> 00:59:30,773
Speaker 23: my city in that But you know, I just think

1261
00:59:31,013 --> 00:59:33,733
Speaker 23: or he's just dumb and naive. Really, I mean, I

1262
00:59:33,773 --> 00:59:36,853
Speaker 23: don't know whether you remember when the coalition government would

1263
00:59:36,893 --> 00:59:40,333
Speaker 23: have form, she'd come out and says it's dangerous times

1264
00:59:40,373 --> 00:59:42,853
Speaker 23: for New Zyllaan. This is the person who knows or

1265
00:59:43,133 --> 00:59:45,093
Speaker 23: should know that they're going to have to greeze up

1266
00:59:45,093 --> 00:59:47,493
Speaker 23: to that government to get money for their city. And

1267
00:59:47,613 --> 00:59:50,853
Speaker 23: you know, her and her left wing two Green members,

1268
00:59:50,893 --> 00:59:53,053
Speaker 23: they had that email floating around on with your sword

1269
00:59:53,093 --> 00:59:55,453
Speaker 23: of a penis and the head of the Penis was

1270
00:59:55,613 --> 00:59:59,093
Speaker 23: Christopher Luxon and the two hanging bits were Winston Peters

1271
00:59:59,293 --> 01:00:03,453
Speaker 23: and David Seymour. That just selled yeah, and that just

1272
01:00:03,533 --> 01:00:05,653
Speaker 23: tells her fate of being dumb. I mean what she

1273
01:00:05,693 --> 01:00:08,573
Speaker 23: said about her income and struggling to live, I mean

1274
01:00:08,613 --> 01:00:11,173
Speaker 23: it's just silly. And yeah, you look, I think the

1275
01:00:11,253 --> 01:00:13,093
Speaker 23: big difference because I read Auckland on the weekend and

1276
01:00:13,173 --> 01:00:16,973
Speaker 23: Augan's got a much different vibe about it now than

1277
01:00:16,973 --> 01:00:19,533
Speaker 23: they had twelve months ago. And Tory is two linked

1278
01:00:19,573 --> 01:00:22,533
Speaker 23: with the Greens. I mean, you're mayor in aucland everything

1279
01:00:22,653 --> 01:00:25,653
Speaker 23: he says it's about his city. There's no Green link

1280
01:00:25,693 --> 01:00:27,333
Speaker 23: to it. There's no blue link to it, there's no

1281
01:00:27,453 --> 01:00:30,573
Speaker 23: red link to it. It's just he's there just for

1282
01:00:30,693 --> 01:00:33,533
Speaker 23: her city. But every time Tory talks, it's about the

1283
01:00:33,613 --> 01:00:36,493
Speaker 23: Green agenda. You know, you know, I was voted in

1284
01:00:36,613 --> 01:00:38,853
Speaker 23: to put in cycleways, I was voted in to get

1285
01:00:38,893 --> 01:00:41,413
Speaker 23: rid of cars out of the city. When really, you know,

1286
01:00:42,093 --> 01:00:45,773
Speaker 23: she stood as an independent, right so she goes to

1287
01:00:45,773 --> 01:00:47,733
Speaker 23: an independent and some people knew that she was a

1288
01:00:47,813 --> 01:00:49,853
Speaker 23: strong member of the Green Party. I didn't, but some

1289
01:00:50,013 --> 01:00:53,733
Speaker 23: people might have known. And she's and everything she does

1290
01:00:54,093 --> 01:00:56,653
Speaker 23: now she leads to the Green Party even though she

1291
01:00:56,733 --> 01:00:59,413
Speaker 23: stood as an independent. And you know, I think it's

1292
01:00:59,453 --> 01:01:01,853
Speaker 23: just showing the really was almost a wind by de

1293
01:01:01,893 --> 01:01:04,213
Speaker 23: Folks is a two guy, so squabbing with Southern Peter

1294
01:01:04,373 --> 01:01:07,173
Speaker 23: Jackson was sponsoring one of the guys and stuff like that,

1295
01:01:07,373 --> 01:01:10,013
Speaker 23: and we ended up with Tory. But for me, Tory's

1296
01:01:10,173 --> 01:01:14,373
Speaker 23: just dumb and naive and she doesn't know really how

1297
01:01:14,453 --> 01:01:17,053
Speaker 23: to act like and be like. And I'll say, you know,

1298
01:01:17,773 --> 01:01:21,373
Speaker 23: winstim Peters. I'll tell you Winter Peters, Christopher loightsn and

1299
01:01:21,533 --> 01:01:22,213
Speaker 23: David Seymour.

1300
01:01:22,493 --> 01:01:23,653
Speaker 24: We'll be laughing.

1301
01:01:23,973 --> 01:01:25,893
Speaker 3: Well, thanks, they'll be very happy. Thank you so much.

1302
01:01:25,933 --> 01:01:26,573
Speaker 3: We call Trevor.

1303
01:01:26,573 --> 01:01:30,053
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what a three man downstairs operation wasn't

1304
01:01:30,093 --> 01:01:32,893
Speaker 2: in my Bingo car for check today.

1305
01:01:32,933 --> 01:01:36,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bingo, it is twenty eight minutes to three.

1306
01:01:38,773 --> 01:01:40,733
Speaker 5: US talks. It'd be headlines with.

1307
01:01:40,813 --> 01:01:43,693
Speaker 12: Blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble with a blue bubble,

1308
01:01:44,133 --> 01:01:48,133
Speaker 12: the local government minister says after internal affairs advice, the

1309
01:01:48,213 --> 01:01:51,693
Speaker 12: government plans to appoint a Crown observer to Wellington Council.

1310
01:01:52,133 --> 01:01:55,653
Speaker 12: Simeon Brown says they're assessed with developing a financially sustainable

1311
01:01:55,733 --> 01:01:59,893
Speaker 12: long term plan, which needs revising after the council next

1312
01:02:00,133 --> 01:02:04,973
Speaker 12: selling its airport shares. Mayor Torifano says she won't resign

1313
01:02:05,053 --> 01:02:08,173
Speaker 12: and will continue to work at pace and work constructively

1314
01:02:08,413 --> 01:02:11,493
Speaker 12: with the Observer. Wellington City Council is a meeting now

1315
01:02:11,573 --> 01:02:15,173
Speaker 12: with the mayor. Police have arrested eighteen people in a

1316
01:02:15,333 --> 01:02:19,173
Speaker 12: major operation targeting organized crime in the North Island, with

1317
01:02:19,293 --> 01:02:23,333
Speaker 12: search as an eastern bay of plenty Auckland, Waikatur and Wellington.

1318
01:02:24,213 --> 01:02:26,773
Speaker 12: A fourth helicopter is en route to a scrub fire

1319
01:02:26,853 --> 01:02:31,933
Speaker 12: at Tekapool military camp covering about two hundred hectares. Prime

1320
01:02:31,973 --> 01:02:36,373
Speaker 12: Minister Chris Luckson's national apology to state care abuse survivors

1321
01:02:36,733 --> 01:02:39,853
Speaker 12: will be live stream from Parliament on November twelve and

1322
01:02:39,973 --> 01:02:44,493
Speaker 12: followed by an address from Labour's Chris Hapkins. Complacency is

1323
01:02:44,573 --> 01:02:47,693
Speaker 12: a disease that can be very dangerous. How one boss

1324
01:02:47,853 --> 01:02:51,173
Speaker 12: turned a huge hotel group around See the story at

1325
01:02:51,293 --> 01:02:54,573
Speaker 12: enzid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Raylean. We're going to wrap this

1327
01:02:58,573 --> 01:03:01,333
Speaker 4: one up, but just finish on this Teics Ghiddo fellows

1328
01:03:01,373 --> 01:03:04,413
Speaker 4: South Islander here, but even I can tell you in

1329
01:03:04,533 --> 01:03:07,333
Speaker 4: quotation marks. The lights are on, but no one's home

1330
01:03:07,413 --> 01:03:10,293
Speaker 4: with Tory when he's talking on news etc. How's that

1331
01:03:10,413 --> 01:03:14,093
Speaker 4: for an analogy? Very good? Not worried about the boozine

1332
01:03:14,173 --> 01:03:17,173
Speaker 4: if you're functional, but Tory's non functional sober from what

1333
01:03:17,253 --> 01:03:20,293
Speaker 4: I can see from Hayden. And one more, who is

1334
01:03:20,413 --> 01:03:20,893
Speaker 4: the observer?

1335
01:03:21,813 --> 01:03:23,333
Speaker 2: I'll just check my notes on this. So this is

1336
01:03:23,413 --> 01:03:25,093
Speaker 2: just coming through from a text. I'm not sure if

1337
01:03:25,133 --> 01:03:26,773
Speaker 2: they've got any information on it, but they're saying that

1338
01:03:27,013 --> 01:03:29,733
Speaker 2: the observer's my cost came good choice on nine two

1339
01:03:29,853 --> 01:03:30,133
Speaker 2: nine two.

1340
01:03:30,893 --> 01:03:31,533
Speaker 3: We'll just check that.

1341
01:03:31,853 --> 01:03:34,653
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we'll confirm that. We'll confirm that doesn't feel

1342
01:03:34,693 --> 01:03:35,053
Speaker 4: quite yet.

1343
01:03:35,493 --> 01:03:36,813
Speaker 3: We'll have to get a couple of bits of confirmation

1344
01:03:36,893 --> 01:03:39,173
Speaker 3: on that, but from textra on nine two nine two.

1345
01:03:41,173 --> 01:03:44,053
Speaker 4: Great chat though, and of course Heather, we'll have plenty

1346
01:03:44,213 --> 01:03:47,013
Speaker 4: on this after four o'clock and godspeed Wellington. All the

1347
01:03:47,053 --> 01:03:49,453
Speaker 4: best to you, but we are going to change up

1348
01:03:49,533 --> 01:03:51,573
Speaker 4: over the next week. While we did float this at

1349
01:03:51,573 --> 01:03:53,453
Speaker 4: the start of the show, and it is a big story,

1350
01:03:54,293 --> 01:03:57,453
Speaker 4: nearly two thousand tons of Australian beef was imported into

1351
01:03:57,493 --> 01:03:59,653
Speaker 4: New Zealand from July to September this year, that's the

1352
01:03:59,773 --> 01:04:03,653
Speaker 4: largest volume over a three month period since twenty ten

1353
01:04:03,773 --> 01:04:08,013
Speaker 4: and fourteen years. So James Miles, he's the war Worth

1354
01:04:08,533 --> 01:04:10,733
Speaker 4: manager of meat. He said the spine three to four

1355
01:04:10,773 --> 01:04:14,573
Speaker 4: months of a type domestic beef market. The retailer has

1356
01:04:14,693 --> 01:04:17,573
Speaker 4: sold only New Zealand groan, but good on them.

1357
01:04:17,973 --> 01:04:18,173
Speaker 15: Yeah.

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01:04:18,293 --> 01:04:20,573
Speaker 4: He went on to say his domestic beef prices rose

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Speaker 4: due to tight supplies. Some retailers looked to source products

1360
01:04:23,573 --> 01:04:26,693
Speaker 4: from Australia, but Miles and Woolwers said its customers have

1361
01:04:26,853 --> 01:04:30,333
Speaker 4: told the supermarket chain that they prefer New Zealand beef

1362
01:04:30,493 --> 01:04:33,453
Speaker 4: over imported products and you were one of those customers.

1363
01:04:33,653 --> 01:04:37,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent patriotic, and it's it's patriotic to

1364
01:04:37,453 --> 01:04:40,893
Speaker 2: buy New Zealand meat products. Obviously great for our farmers

1365
01:04:41,013 --> 01:04:44,013
Speaker 2: and New Zealand primary products across sport. In fact, I'd

1366
01:04:44,013 --> 01:04:46,533
Speaker 2: say buy New Zealand products whenever you can. But also

1367
01:04:47,213 --> 01:04:49,413
Speaker 2: it feels right because you know it's going to be good.

1368
01:04:49,653 --> 01:04:51,213
Speaker 2: You know it's going to be great if it's New

1369
01:04:51,293 --> 01:04:55,733
Speaker 2: Zealand beef. And I definitely wouldn't buy pork that overseas

1370
01:04:55,773 --> 01:04:57,773
Speaker 2: pork in any way, shape or flow.

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Speaker 4: I certainly wouldn't do that either. I think for me,

1372
01:05:02,173 --> 01:05:05,053
Speaker 4: price is king and I know this is going to

1373
01:05:05,173 --> 01:05:07,413
Speaker 4: make me sound like a bad New Zealand and then

1374
01:05:07,453 --> 01:05:08,573
Speaker 4: a supporting.

1375
01:05:08,333 --> 01:05:09,573
Speaker 3: But I live are about New Zealand.

1376
01:05:10,373 --> 01:05:13,533
Speaker 4: Whenever I can, I will support the farmers. But until

1377
01:05:13,733 --> 01:05:16,293
Speaker 4: I saw this story, didn't even cross my mind where

1378
01:05:16,493 --> 01:05:17,373
Speaker 4: my meat comes from?

1379
01:05:17,533 --> 01:05:18,413
Speaker 3: Really genuinely.

1380
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Speaker 15: Yep.

1381
01:05:18,973 --> 01:05:21,213
Speaker 4: Well, maybe I put a bit too much trust in

1382
01:05:21,293 --> 01:05:23,413
Speaker 4: the supermarket that I go to. It turns out that

1383
01:05:23,493 --> 01:05:25,133
Speaker 4: I was buying New Zealand beef because I only go

1384
01:05:25,173 --> 01:05:27,773
Speaker 4: to Woolworths over the past couple of weeks. But generally I.

1385
01:05:27,813 --> 01:05:29,773
Speaker 3: Don't look at where that meat is coming from.

1386
01:05:29,693 --> 01:05:33,013
Speaker 2: See I even because I was excited about Wagu. Yeah,

1387
01:05:34,333 --> 01:05:36,293
Speaker 2: but you have to check and make sure it's Wago beef,

1388
01:05:37,013 --> 01:05:40,173
Speaker 2: New Zealand Wago beef. Yeah, even though that's kind of

1389
01:05:41,093 --> 01:05:43,333
Speaker 2: I don't know if Japanese farmers would be really happy

1390
01:05:43,373 --> 01:05:45,213
Speaker 2: about the concept of New Zealand Wargo beef.

1391
01:05:45,773 --> 01:05:46,773
Speaker 3: But I think you want it.

1392
01:05:46,853 --> 01:05:50,293
Speaker 2: You want there's something about meat that you want to know.

1393
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:54,373
Speaker 2: That's that it's been brought up in the beautiful, lush

1394
01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:57,693
Speaker 2: green grass of New Zealand. You know, that's why it's

1395
01:05:57,693 --> 01:05:58,893
Speaker 2: so desired around the world.

1396
01:05:59,573 --> 01:06:01,693
Speaker 4: Well, that's a good point that you made, because that

1397
01:06:01,893 --> 01:06:04,853
Speaker 4: is the reason why you won't buy overseas pork, right,

1398
01:06:05,093 --> 01:06:07,933
Speaker 4: is because our pork farmers here have to abide by

1399
01:06:08,013 --> 01:06:10,493
Speaker 4: some pre strict animal wealthy standards for our pigs. That's

1400
01:06:10,493 --> 01:06:12,373
Speaker 4: a good thing. We like kippie pigs and we want

1401
01:06:12,413 --> 01:06:14,173
Speaker 4: the pigs to run around as much as possible, But

1402
01:06:14,253 --> 01:06:17,413
Speaker 4: overseas they don't have to do that. And you're saying

1403
01:06:17,573 --> 01:06:20,453
Speaker 4: when it comes to New Zealand cows, you well you

1404
01:06:20,573 --> 01:06:23,173
Speaker 4: drive past them, maybe not every day, not in Central Aukland.

1405
01:06:23,333 --> 01:06:27,053
Speaker 2: They're so happy, smiles on their faces, of their beautiful eyes,

1406
01:06:27,173 --> 01:06:28,453
Speaker 2: with their lovely eyelashes.

1407
01:06:28,893 --> 01:06:30,373
Speaker 3: New Zealand cows very happy.

1408
01:06:31,093 --> 01:06:34,333
Speaker 4: Another question for you. You go to a barbecue and

1409
01:06:34,813 --> 01:06:38,453
Speaker 4: there's some massive steaks on the barbecue cooking away. Do

1410
01:06:38,573 --> 01:06:40,293
Speaker 4: you go over to your mate with the hei knee

1411
01:06:40,333 --> 01:06:44,253
Speaker 4: and say, hey, where are they steaks from? They Kiwi steaks.

1412
01:06:45,253 --> 01:06:47,533
Speaker 2: No, but I will turn up with some cheese sizzlers

1413
01:06:47,733 --> 01:06:49,613
Speaker 2: and then and put them on the barbecue and then

1414
01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:51,213
Speaker 2: then but then take the steak off.

1415
01:06:51,973 --> 01:06:54,013
Speaker 4: I knew you'd be one of those guys, so I

1416
01:06:54,093 --> 01:06:54,453
Speaker 4: guess that.

1417
01:06:54,533 --> 01:06:58,013
Speaker 2: The question is do you shop patriotically? Do you owe

1418
01:06:58,053 --> 01:07:01,173
Speaker 2: New Zealand farmers? Do you owe the country? Do you

1419
01:07:01,293 --> 01:07:03,733
Speaker 2: think about where it comes from? And do you tend

1420
01:07:03,813 --> 01:07:06,253
Speaker 2: to go for New Zealand produce if you can?

1421
01:07:07,253 --> 01:07:08,773
Speaker 4: I eight one hundred and eighty T ten eighty is

1422
01:07:08,813 --> 01:07:11,773
Speaker 4: the number to call a quick message. Here some independent

1423
01:07:11,893 --> 01:07:16,013
Speaker 4: country butchers name the farm their cuts come from. That's

1424
01:07:16,093 --> 01:07:17,733
Speaker 4: real place of origin labeling.

1425
01:07:17,973 --> 01:07:18,373
Speaker 5: I love that.

1426
01:07:18,773 --> 01:07:21,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you specifically know exactly where it comes from.

1427
01:07:22,053 --> 01:07:25,133
Speaker 4: So this is from heath farm, grass feds.

1428
01:07:25,213 --> 01:07:28,773
Speaker 2: We're good to add bigs or cows well looked after,

1429
01:07:28,973 --> 01:07:33,533
Speaker 2: their happy, delicious, healthy meat, good for the economy, good

1430
01:07:33,573 --> 01:07:34,373
Speaker 2: for the environment.

1431
01:07:34,893 --> 01:07:35,613
Speaker 3: Everyone wins.

1432
01:07:35,813 --> 01:07:37,773
Speaker 4: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty do you care

1433
01:07:37,813 --> 01:07:39,053
Speaker 4: where your meat comes from?

1434
01:07:39,133 --> 01:07:39,813
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you.

1435
01:07:39,933 --> 01:07:41,973
Speaker 4: Nine to ninety two is the text number. It is

1436
01:07:42,293 --> 01:07:42,813
Speaker 4: nineteen to.

1437
01:07:42,893 --> 01:07:49,093
Speaker 1: Three Matteeth Tyler Adams, with you as your afternoon rolls on.

1438
01:07:49,413 --> 01:07:52,493
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons us talk.

1439
01:07:52,413 --> 01:07:56,053
Speaker 4: Said, be good afternoon. Do you care what country your

1440
01:07:56,173 --> 01:07:57,893
Speaker 4: meat comes from? This is on the back of nearly

1441
01:07:57,973 --> 01:08:00,573
Speaker 4: two thousand tons of ossie beef was imported into New

1442
01:08:00,653 --> 01:08:03,653
Speaker 4: Zealand from July to September this year. That's the largest

1443
01:08:03,813 --> 01:08:07,373
Speaker 4: volume in a three month period since twenty ten. And

1444
01:08:07,533 --> 01:08:09,373
Speaker 4: you always go for the New Zealand beef.

1445
01:08:09,533 --> 01:08:12,613
Speaker 3: I think you're a traitor if you buy imported meat.

1446
01:08:12,733 --> 01:08:15,053
Speaker 2: I mean, we grow it here, so buy it from here.

1447
01:08:15,213 --> 01:08:17,053
Speaker 2: I mean there's things we don't grow here. You know,

1448
01:08:17,173 --> 01:08:19,652
Speaker 2: it's hard to we don't. We don't grow cars here,

1449
01:08:19,733 --> 01:08:20,773
Speaker 2: so you have to import them.

1450
01:08:20,973 --> 01:08:23,933
Speaker 3: Yes, but we grow the best meat in the world here,

1451
01:08:24,572 --> 01:08:26,692
Speaker 3: so so buy it. I mean I bought a whole

1452
01:08:26,893 --> 01:08:28,932
Speaker 3: beef I fill it the other day. Yep.

1453
01:08:29,412 --> 01:08:33,652
Speaker 2: It was quite expensive, was eighty bucks, but might have

1454
01:08:33,692 --> 01:08:36,013
Speaker 2: been the most delicious thing I have ever cooked up

1455
01:08:36,013 --> 01:08:38,333
Speaker 2: on the barbecue. And someone I was saying before that

1456
01:08:38,492 --> 01:08:40,532
Speaker 2: I go to the barbecue and put a cheeses laarn

1457
01:08:40,692 --> 01:08:43,692
Speaker 2: and then take the fancy meat off. I was cedding

1458
01:08:43,812 --> 01:08:47,652
Speaker 2: Texter because cheeses are made from imported porch.

1459
01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:48,612
Speaker 3: Now I was kidding. I'm not.

1460
01:08:50,452 --> 01:08:51,412
Speaker 4: Alan, what do you reckon?

1461
01:08:54,732 --> 01:08:58,692
Speaker 25: I might be in the minority, but our preference is local,

1462
01:08:59,452 --> 01:09:02,412
Speaker 25: and if we can't get local, we go regional. And

1463
01:09:02,572 --> 01:09:05,372
Speaker 25: if we can't go regional, then we'll go New Zealand wide.

1464
01:09:05,973 --> 01:09:10,013
Speaker 25: But no important products of any kind if we can

1465
01:09:10,053 --> 01:09:14,572
Speaker 25: avoid it. Vegetables, fruit, the whole dog bollocks. You know,

1466
01:09:14,692 --> 01:09:18,772
Speaker 25: it's all we eat seasonally anyway, so that makes it

1467
01:09:18,853 --> 01:09:21,612
Speaker 25: a whole lot easier. But the food that we import

1468
01:09:21,692 --> 01:09:23,213
Speaker 25: into New Zealand is just crack.

1469
01:09:24,213 --> 01:09:26,052
Speaker 3: Yes, So is that the reason why Ellen?

1470
01:09:26,173 --> 01:09:26,293
Speaker 14: Is that?

1471
01:09:27,173 --> 01:09:29,052
Speaker 2: Is that the reason why you go for it, Allen?

1472
01:09:29,293 --> 01:09:32,053
Speaker 2: Not patriotism or the good of the economy.

1473
01:09:32,293 --> 01:09:34,052
Speaker 3: Is it the quality of the produce?

1474
01:09:35,293 --> 01:09:40,453
Speaker 25: Well, I think we have. I mean for some vegetables

1475
01:09:40,652 --> 01:09:44,973
Speaker 25: like potatoes and potatoes, but we produce it locally, so

1476
01:09:45,933 --> 01:09:48,333
Speaker 25: that gets to to every time. But some of the

1477
01:09:48,452 --> 01:09:52,973
Speaker 25: fruit and produce that we produce, as well as all

1478
01:09:53,053 --> 01:09:57,612
Speaker 25: of our meat and fish, is probably on a power

1479
01:09:57,853 --> 01:10:00,532
Speaker 25: not better than anything else in the world, and it's

1480
01:10:00,652 --> 01:10:06,492
Speaker 25: all free range, and generally you have good organic options

1481
01:10:06,532 --> 01:10:06,852
Speaker 25: as well.

1482
01:10:07,812 --> 01:10:09,973
Speaker 2: Yes, well, they might push back on a potato as

1483
01:10:09,973 --> 01:10:13,812
Speaker 2: a potato and a new potato growing in my sister's

1484
01:10:13,893 --> 01:10:15,612
Speaker 2: garden around Christmas time.

1485
01:10:16,133 --> 01:10:18,452
Speaker 3: Oh, there's nothing better in the world than a new potato.

1486
01:10:18,772 --> 01:10:19,133
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1487
01:10:19,253 --> 01:10:20,692
Speaker 4: We're going to do a taste here, so I'm going

1488
01:10:20,772 --> 01:10:25,173
Speaker 4: to get an Assie potato, a Tasmanian potato with one

1489
01:10:25,213 --> 01:10:27,772
Speaker 4: out of your sister's garden, and we'll see if you

1490
01:10:27,893 --> 01:10:30,933
Speaker 4: can tell. I will say, for tomato, do you tomatoes

1491
01:10:31,812 --> 01:10:34,812
Speaker 4: specifically if they are imported tomatoes, won't touch them, won't

1492
01:10:34,853 --> 01:10:36,852
Speaker 4: touch them because they've been frozen first as well. Who

1493
01:10:36,893 --> 01:10:37,852
Speaker 4: wants a frozen tomato?

1494
01:10:38,053 --> 01:10:38,253
Speaker 15: Yes?

1495
01:10:38,372 --> 01:10:39,173
Speaker 3: So, but do you check?

1496
01:10:39,492 --> 01:10:42,173
Speaker 2: Because you're saying, Tyler that you hate your country and

1497
01:10:42,253 --> 01:10:45,173
Speaker 2: you don't check where the foods come from, We'll just

1498
01:10:45,213 --> 01:10:47,173
Speaker 2: go you go straight to straight to the price.

1499
01:10:47,492 --> 01:10:49,173
Speaker 4: Thank you for bringing that up. So when I get

1500
01:10:49,213 --> 01:10:51,572
Speaker 4: to the fruit and veggie isle, and I've got the

1501
01:10:52,013 --> 01:10:55,053
Speaker 4: sign there and it sees New Zealand growing tomatoes nice

1502
01:10:55,093 --> 01:10:57,973
Speaker 4: and easy. When I get to the meat asle, I

1503
01:10:58,133 --> 01:11:00,173
Speaker 4: don't know if those labels exist. I assume they do.

1504
01:11:00,372 --> 01:11:02,652
Speaker 4: They do exist, those labels. It says this is New

1505
01:11:02,732 --> 01:11:05,293
Speaker 4: Zealand meat, but it's usually on the back. And to me, look,

1506
01:11:05,333 --> 01:11:08,013
Speaker 4: I'm learning a lot during this discussion, but to me,

1507
01:11:08,372 --> 01:11:11,053
Speaker 4: it's just met. I didn't really care or know where

1508
01:11:11,093 --> 01:11:11,652
Speaker 4: it came from.

1509
01:11:11,772 --> 01:11:14,293
Speaker 3: Now too, so you overseas pork.

1510
01:11:14,612 --> 01:11:16,253
Speaker 4: No, there is where I draw the line.

1511
01:11:16,412 --> 01:11:18,532
Speaker 3: Why is it? Yeah, because you're saying before you, I

1512
01:11:18,572 --> 01:11:19,692
Speaker 3: think it's not it's.

1513
01:11:19,772 --> 01:11:21,812
Speaker 4: On the pork farmers that they have to abide by

1514
01:11:22,293 --> 01:11:24,773
Speaker 4: a wealthy standards that I think are right, but overseas

1515
01:11:24,853 --> 01:11:28,173
Speaker 4: don't have to make an important here. Uh, Jimmy, what

1516
01:11:28,293 --> 01:11:28,772
Speaker 4: do you reckon?

1517
01:11:29,812 --> 01:11:29,932
Speaker 5: Hey?

1518
01:11:30,013 --> 01:11:33,173
Speaker 15: Good guys. Yeah, I do eat like you know Australian

1519
01:11:33,293 --> 01:11:37,852
Speaker 15: and you know New Zealand beef as well, but the

1520
01:11:37,973 --> 01:11:40,492
Speaker 15: taste there is like a taste different if you see

1521
01:11:40,692 --> 01:11:44,173
Speaker 15: like New Zealand ones are like more flavorful. That's what

1522
01:11:44,333 --> 01:11:49,853
Speaker 15: I feel, nicow. But my question is that why sometime

1523
01:11:51,133 --> 01:11:54,093
Speaker 15: New Zealand beef in New Zealand is expensive. But if

1524
01:11:54,133 --> 01:11:56,732
Speaker 15: you go to like Australia, so I've been to Melbourne

1525
01:11:57,372 --> 01:12:01,652
Speaker 15: and then the same in bullies there. They have also

1526
01:12:01,732 --> 01:12:04,652
Speaker 15: New Zealand like steaks and you know, beef products there,

1527
01:12:04,772 --> 01:12:09,053
Speaker 15: but those products are cheaper. So why is that why

1528
01:12:09,532 --> 01:12:13,412
Speaker 15: in New Zealand. New Zealand beef is expensive. But if

1529
01:12:13,452 --> 01:12:16,812
Speaker 15: you got overseas in Melbourne and takes ages to you know,

1530
01:12:16,933 --> 01:12:19,732
Speaker 15: like you got to take ship man all that stuff

1531
01:12:19,812 --> 01:12:21,772
Speaker 15: as a why cheaper than New Zealand.

1532
01:12:22,173 --> 01:12:26,852
Speaker 4: Welcome to the convoluted world supply, Jimmy, is that's the

1533
01:12:26,973 --> 01:12:30,092
Speaker 4: age old question and we've long asked that in New Zealand.

1534
01:12:30,253 --> 01:12:32,452
Speaker 4: And it's not just meat, right, it's dairy products that

1535
01:12:32,612 --> 01:12:34,852
Speaker 4: you know, quite often we pay more for a block

1536
01:12:34,893 --> 01:12:37,732
Speaker 4: of anchor butter and then we see it in Cole's

1537
01:12:37,772 --> 01:12:40,973
Speaker 4: in the UK for two bucks. But you know that

1538
01:12:41,253 --> 01:12:44,173
Speaker 4: it starts getting pretty convoluted. And that's why we've got

1539
01:12:44,213 --> 01:12:46,892
Speaker 4: this grocery commissioner hopefully to try and figure it all out.

1540
01:12:47,173 --> 01:12:48,532
Speaker 3: But I get what I get what you mean.

1541
01:12:48,732 --> 01:12:50,732
Speaker 4: And when we look at New Zealand beef, we pay

1542
01:12:50,772 --> 01:12:53,612
Speaker 4: a premium for it. And I would take that because

1543
01:12:54,093 --> 01:12:55,732
Speaker 4: that is the cost they'll get for it if they

1544
01:12:55,853 --> 01:12:58,293
Speaker 4: export it. So you've got to be fair to the farmers.

1545
01:12:58,333 --> 01:13:00,933
Speaker 4: If they're gonna get eighty eight bucks a kilo for

1546
01:13:01,013 --> 01:13:04,692
Speaker 4: a nice piece of ribbi is Matt paid for? You know,

1547
01:13:04,812 --> 01:13:07,692
Speaker 4: for that price if they export it, then do you

1548
01:13:07,772 --> 01:13:13,852
Speaker 4: pay that right? No, Jimmy's thinking on that one. Jimmy,

1549
01:13:13,893 --> 01:13:15,732
Speaker 4: that's probably a big no. He see, No, he wasn't

1550
01:13:15,732 --> 01:13:19,492
Speaker 4: happy with that price. Have we got time for Simon? No,

1551
01:13:19,572 --> 01:13:23,052
Speaker 4: it we'll come back to Simon. It is eleven minutes

1552
01:13:23,093 --> 01:13:23,412
Speaker 4: to three.

1553
01:13:23,572 --> 01:13:24,732
Speaker 3: Can I just ask you a question here?

1554
01:13:24,772 --> 01:13:28,852
Speaker 2: I found a I found a supermarket receipt from exactly

1555
01:13:28,933 --> 01:13:31,692
Speaker 2: twenty years ago today? Yep, how much do you think

1556
01:13:31,732 --> 01:13:34,452
Speaker 2: you paid for six barn eggs twenty years ago?

1557
01:13:34,532 --> 01:13:34,812
Speaker 3: Today?

1558
01:13:35,452 --> 01:13:36,812
Speaker 4: Barney eggs? Is that free range?

1559
01:13:37,013 --> 01:13:39,852
Speaker 2: Doesn't say well, Barne eggs, so they're not free range,

1560
01:13:39,853 --> 01:13:43,412
Speaker 2: they're barn. One of those shimmys around what's free range

1561
01:13:43,452 --> 01:13:44,892
Speaker 2: and what's not. It's a Barne egg okay.

1562
01:13:45,013 --> 01:13:48,013
Speaker 4: So the last time I bought Barne eggs recently, they

1563
01:13:48,053 --> 01:13:51,772
Speaker 4: were about six bucks. Okay, so a buck a Bucan eggs?

1564
01:13:51,812 --> 01:13:54,253
Speaker 4: So I reckon? What was it fourteen years ago, twenty

1565
01:13:54,253 --> 01:13:54,772
Speaker 4: four years.

1566
01:13:54,612 --> 01:13:56,532
Speaker 3: Ago, twenty years ago, twenty years ago?

1567
01:13:57,173 --> 01:13:58,012
Speaker 4: Two dollars fifty?

1568
01:13:58,213 --> 01:14:00,852
Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll see, I'll tell anything, all right, okay mate?

1569
01:14:00,853 --> 01:14:01,173
Speaker 22: All right?

1570
01:14:01,253 --> 01:14:03,572
Speaker 4: Then it is eleven minutes to three.

1571
01:14:05,853 --> 01:14:08,213
Speaker 5: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1572
01:14:08,333 --> 01:14:11,732
Speaker 5: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons you

1573
01:14:11,933 --> 01:14:13,732
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty four News Talk.

1574
01:14:13,652 --> 01:14:17,293
Speaker 4: Said, News Talks. There be good afternoon to you. Simon.

1575
01:14:17,372 --> 01:14:17,692
Speaker 4: How are you?

1576
01:14:18,973 --> 01:14:19,173
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1577
01:14:19,213 --> 01:14:20,892
Speaker 3: Well, mate, yourself very good?

1578
01:14:21,093 --> 01:14:23,293
Speaker 4: So, oh you're a good man to chat to. You're

1579
01:14:23,333 --> 01:14:23,852
Speaker 4: in this game?

1580
01:14:25,692 --> 01:14:26,053
Speaker 23: No I have.

1581
01:14:26,253 --> 01:14:28,973
Speaker 22: I've been well. My brothers and I grew up on

1582
01:14:28,973 --> 01:14:31,213
Speaker 22: a farm in kits and then when Dad told the

1583
01:14:31,253 --> 01:14:33,253
Speaker 22: farm all and how we got into the meat game

1584
01:14:33,293 --> 01:14:37,053
Speaker 22: instead about twenty four years ago. So yeah, we've been

1585
01:14:37,093 --> 01:14:38,972
Speaker 22: well and we've been well, and Scott's in the meat

1586
01:14:39,173 --> 01:14:41,253
Speaker 22: world for almost a quarter of a century.

1587
01:14:41,572 --> 01:14:43,333
Speaker 3: Are you are you one of the good people from

1588
01:14:43,612 --> 01:14:48,293
Speaker 3: neat Meat? Yes, tell me tell me more about nat Meat.

1589
01:14:48,452 --> 01:14:50,932
Speaker 4: So this is the first time I've heard about neat Meats.

1590
01:14:50,973 --> 01:14:52,213
Speaker 3: You'd be in ericson then, would you.

1591
01:14:53,333 --> 01:14:55,492
Speaker 22: Yeah, that's the firstborn.

1592
01:14:56,572 --> 01:14:58,612
Speaker 3: Oh, welcome to the show, Simon. How are you? Did

1593
01:14:58,652 --> 01:15:01,492
Speaker 3: you sell mat that rebind neat Meat?

1594
01:15:02,853 --> 01:15:03,732
Speaker 22: I would have given him a.

1595
01:15:06,013 --> 01:15:06,053
Speaker 14: No.

1596
01:15:06,213 --> 01:15:09,132
Speaker 2: Neat Meat did send me a pack a care package

1597
01:15:09,253 --> 01:15:13,012
Speaker 2: during during lockdown though, and fantastic product.

1598
01:15:13,093 --> 01:15:14,452
Speaker 3: Fantastic product you guys sell.

1599
01:15:14,572 --> 01:15:17,253
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what was in the what's what? What sort

1600
01:15:17,293 --> 01:15:20,372
Speaker 4: of you know meat do you put in these packs?

1601
01:15:21,093 --> 01:15:24,212
Speaker 4: Mixture varies? Yeah, I can't remember. There were some sausages

1602
01:15:24,253 --> 01:15:26,333
Speaker 4: in there, there was some steak in there was Buddy.

1603
01:15:26,013 --> 01:15:29,492
Speaker 3: Good anyway, chat, I'm sorry there was I think there

1604
01:15:29,532 --> 01:15:30,612
Speaker 3: was an eye filler in there. Actually.

1605
01:15:30,732 --> 01:15:32,772
Speaker 4: Yeah. So when it comes to New Zealand meat, I mean,

1606
01:15:33,053 --> 01:15:36,013
Speaker 4: do you think Kiwi's Buy and Large preferred to have

1607
01:15:36,412 --> 01:15:38,572
Speaker 4: New Zealand meat versus the exported stuff.

1608
01:15:40,133 --> 01:15:42,572
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, for sure. I think would love to have

1609
01:15:42,772 --> 01:15:48,612
Speaker 22: everything until the price isn't right and i'd love to

1610
01:15:48,692 --> 01:15:52,452
Speaker 22: think kwis you know alloyl to their farmers as we are.

1611
01:15:53,372 --> 01:15:55,532
Speaker 22: The reality is, you know, in the last probably three

1612
01:15:55,612 --> 01:15:58,333
Speaker 22: or four months, you have seen you've seen a real

1613
01:15:58,372 --> 01:16:00,572
Speaker 22: shortage in New Zealand meat, which is probably what's led

1614
01:16:00,612 --> 01:16:04,933
Speaker 22: to a bit of the beef coming over in the

1615
01:16:05,213 --> 01:16:07,053
Speaker 22: In the main reason there as there was such a

1616
01:16:07,213 --> 01:16:10,852
Speaker 22: grass curve so and winter that we have a fraction

1617
01:16:10,973 --> 01:16:14,452
Speaker 22: of what we buy in summer, and so that's probably

1618
01:16:14,492 --> 01:16:19,452
Speaker 22: what what what draws let ossy beef over here. And

1619
01:16:19,532 --> 01:16:21,532
Speaker 22: it is a bit of a mixed bag, that's I mean,

1620
01:16:21,532 --> 01:16:23,893
Speaker 22: I see it all the time. And the problem with

1621
01:16:24,013 --> 01:16:25,692
Speaker 22: that is that you don't know what you're really going

1622
01:16:25,772 --> 01:16:28,772
Speaker 22: to get until you open the box. Yeah, quality is

1623
01:16:28,812 --> 01:16:29,293
Speaker 22: an issue.

1624
01:16:29,412 --> 01:16:31,452
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you can't hassle someone for buying beef

1625
01:16:31,532 --> 01:16:34,892
Speaker 2: if the news over imported beef, if the New Zealand

1626
01:16:34,933 --> 01:16:37,372
Speaker 2: beef isn't available. But I guess what I'm saying is

1627
01:16:37,412 --> 01:16:39,412
Speaker 2: if you if you have a choice and you're.

1628
01:16:39,253 --> 01:16:42,853
Speaker 3: About to buy meat, then I would encourage people.

1629
01:16:43,093 --> 01:16:48,692
Speaker 2: For moral reasons, for quality reasons, and for patriotism reasons. Really,

1630
01:16:49,093 --> 01:16:52,012
Speaker 2: I would say check that it is New Zealand beef,

1631
01:16:52,133 --> 01:16:55,612
Speaker 2: particularly actually pork. I mean anyone that's buying overseas pork.

1632
01:16:55,612 --> 01:16:56,532
Speaker 2: I mean that's disgusting.

1633
01:16:57,612 --> 01:16:58,612
Speaker 18: Yeah, it doesn't either.

1634
01:16:58,652 --> 01:17:01,293
Speaker 22: I mean, how many part we've got it's the same thing.

1635
01:17:01,333 --> 01:17:03,932
Speaker 22: I mean, it's all it's all locally producing and head

1636
01:17:03,973 --> 01:17:06,852
Speaker 22: on hat the Zealand beef pork and land yeah better

1637
01:17:06,933 --> 01:17:10,133
Speaker 22: than the He's about eighty five percent of the beat

1638
01:17:10,213 --> 01:17:12,893
Speaker 22: is actually great grain finished and they typically have to

1639
01:17:12,973 --> 01:17:14,933
Speaker 22: do that because you know, they need to sort of,

1640
01:17:15,452 --> 01:17:18,852
Speaker 22: you know, harmonize the quality. I suppose you know New Zealand,

1641
01:17:19,093 --> 01:17:21,253
Speaker 22: New Zealand, you've also got to know. I mean ideally

1642
01:17:21,253 --> 01:17:23,293
Speaker 22: you'd like to know where you comes from and in

1643
01:17:23,412 --> 01:17:26,692
Speaker 22: certain seasons because it's a bit like wine. Really, I

1644
01:17:26,772 --> 01:17:29,213
Speaker 22: mean you've got I mean, where's the business would sell

1645
01:17:29,253 --> 01:17:31,932
Speaker 22: probably ten different types of silan, which sounds like overkill,

1646
01:17:32,013 --> 01:17:34,892
Speaker 22: but I can't hint a bottle store aren't and any

1647
01:17:34,973 --> 01:17:37,692
Speaker 22: having one option to shady or penan wh or something

1648
01:17:37,812 --> 01:17:40,173
Speaker 22: like that. It just doesn't happen. So you know, I'd

1649
01:17:40,213 --> 01:17:42,253
Speaker 22: love to see a lot more of his education done

1650
01:17:42,293 --> 01:17:44,692
Speaker 22: in New Zealand. On meat, I have a real.

1651
01:17:44,652 --> 01:17:45,412
Speaker 18: Passion for it.

1652
01:17:45,732 --> 01:17:47,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll meet meat. You know, you know the name

1653
01:17:47,652 --> 01:17:48,973
Speaker 3: of the cow it came from, don't you?

1654
01:17:51,173 --> 01:17:53,052
Speaker 9: Or the number, not all of the number.

1655
01:17:53,173 --> 01:17:55,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes it easier. Yeh's Warren.

1656
01:17:55,893 --> 01:17:57,213
Speaker 18: I don't like get it.

1657
01:17:57,452 --> 01:17:59,333
Speaker 22: I don't like getting to attached to the bather.

1658
01:18:00,053 --> 01:18:02,053
Speaker 4: Don't get to know the cows. Yeah, yeah, that ends

1659
01:18:02,093 --> 01:18:04,852
Speaker 4: badly so just in terms of the cost per cattle

1660
01:18:04,893 --> 01:18:07,052
Speaker 4: for you because it's grass feed, right, you look after

1661
01:18:07,133 --> 01:18:09,372
Speaker 4: your kettle. That's why you get the quality meat. That

1662
01:18:09,492 --> 01:18:11,172
Speaker 4: must be an expensive process.

1663
01:18:13,492 --> 01:18:15,692
Speaker 22: Yeah yeah, I mean you get you get farmers that

1664
01:18:15,853 --> 01:18:18,333
Speaker 22: just do you know some farmers just uh you know,

1665
01:18:18,452 --> 01:18:21,293
Speaker 22: their farms lend to finishing beef.

1666
01:18:21,652 --> 01:18:21,852
Speaker 6: Well.

1667
01:18:21,893 --> 01:18:24,372
Speaker 22: I mean, the average cattle is about two years old

1668
01:18:24,452 --> 01:18:27,173
Speaker 22: and in that time it can go. It potentially goes

1669
01:18:27,213 --> 01:18:29,652
Speaker 22: to a bit of hardship and some farms are better

1670
01:18:29,692 --> 01:18:32,052
Speaker 22: off not finishing in some sort of trade into market.

1671
01:18:32,173 --> 01:18:35,692
Speaker 22: So you know, again it's two years old. Lot can happen,

1672
01:18:35,933 --> 01:18:38,333
Speaker 22: and I think breed has a bit to do with that.

1673
01:18:39,133 --> 01:18:41,412
Speaker 22: We got the sickle beef bred out there now, brand

1674
01:18:41,492 --> 01:18:44,852
Speaker 22: out there there, and it's phenomenal. It's actually a dairy

1675
01:18:44,893 --> 01:18:49,293
Speaker 22: crossed animals, which is it sounds funny, but we've done

1676
01:18:49,333 --> 01:18:50,692
Speaker 22: our research on that.

1677
01:18:52,333 --> 01:18:55,892
Speaker 4: And on your side with stuff with rolemos is coming up.

1678
01:18:56,013 --> 01:18:57,732
Speaker 4: But Neat Meat is the name of the company and

1679
01:18:57,772 --> 01:18:59,293
Speaker 4: we're going to carry this on after three.

1680
01:18:59,572 --> 01:19:02,492
Speaker 3: Is it your patriotic duty to buy a new Zealand meat?

1681
01:19:04,133 --> 01:19:08,213
Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk, it's many

1682
01:19:08,612 --> 01:19:11,333
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons.

1683
01:19:10,893 --> 01:19:12,532
Speaker 5: On news Talk Sevy.

1684
01:19:13,053 --> 01:19:15,812
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show. Now just before we carry

1685
01:19:15,853 --> 01:19:17,892
Speaker 4: on the discussion about Australian meat.

1686
01:19:18,333 --> 01:19:20,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so I left you hanging because I've got

1687
01:19:21,013 --> 01:19:25,412
Speaker 2: a pack and save seat from Timaru on the twenty

1688
01:19:25,572 --> 01:19:29,772
Speaker 2: second of October two thousand and four, three twenty eight

1689
01:19:29,812 --> 01:19:33,412
Speaker 2: in the afternoon, So this is pretty much exactly twenty

1690
01:19:33,492 --> 01:19:35,812
Speaker 2: years ago. And I asked how much would you pay

1691
01:19:35,893 --> 01:19:39,053
Speaker 2: for a six pack of barne eggs back twenty years ago?

1692
01:19:39,213 --> 01:19:41,572
Speaker 4: And I said two dollars fifty and you were far off.

1693
01:19:41,612 --> 01:19:45,532
Speaker 2: It was actually three dollars nine. Who bananas? How much

1694
01:19:45,572 --> 01:19:47,932
Speaker 2: would you pay for a cagy of bananas? Twenty years ago?

1695
01:19:48,013 --> 01:19:50,333
Speaker 3: And Timuru pack and Save at three point thirty?

1696
01:19:50,452 --> 01:19:52,333
Speaker 4: Where are the bananas from are they they they're not

1697
01:19:52,372 --> 01:19:53,173
Speaker 4: New Zealand bananas?

1698
01:19:53,173 --> 01:19:53,372
Speaker 26: Are they?

1699
01:19:53,452 --> 01:19:54,933
Speaker 2: No, they're not New Zealand bananas. I don't know the

1700
01:19:54,973 --> 01:19:57,852
Speaker 2: exact location of They could be Ecuador.

1701
01:19:58,812 --> 01:19:59,972
Speaker 3: Lot of bananas in New Zealand.

1702
01:20:00,133 --> 01:20:03,412
Speaker 4: I'll give you for Aquilo bananas, I'll give you three bucks.

1703
01:20:03,772 --> 01:20:06,013
Speaker 3: Wow, it was a die ninety five years ago.

1704
01:20:07,492 --> 01:20:11,412
Speaker 2: Alo, there you go, and a bag of New Zealand

1705
01:20:11,452 --> 01:20:14,692
Speaker 2: bag tomatoes was three ninety nine back twenty years ago.

1706
01:20:15,053 --> 01:20:17,492
Speaker 3: So Nadine was the operator in lane five.

1707
01:20:18,133 --> 01:20:20,212
Speaker 4: Get good on you, Nadine from Timmadoo.

1708
01:20:20,692 --> 01:20:24,852
Speaker 2: So nearly two thousand tons of Australian beef was imported

1709
01:20:24,893 --> 01:20:27,412
Speaker 2: into New Zealand from July to September this year, the

1710
01:20:27,492 --> 01:20:31,173
Speaker 2: largest volume over a three month period since twenty ten.

1711
01:20:31,612 --> 01:20:34,333
Speaker 2: This was partly due to the low availability of killable

1712
01:20:34,372 --> 01:20:38,013
Speaker 2: prime cattle through early winter and up to Middlewest, which

1713
01:20:38,093 --> 01:20:40,772
Speaker 2: drove up prices, causing some retailers to look across the

1714
01:20:40,853 --> 01:20:45,892
Speaker 2: Tasman for lower priced beef. I say, you need to check.

1715
01:20:46,333 --> 01:20:48,173
Speaker 2: But the beef that you're buying in New Zealand and

1716
01:20:48,253 --> 01:20:51,732
Speaker 2: meat in general and produce across the board is New Zealand.

1717
01:20:51,933 --> 01:20:53,772
Speaker 2: And I say it's morally better to buy in New

1718
01:20:53,853 --> 01:20:57,293
Speaker 2: Zealand products because the way we treat them and the

1719
01:20:57,372 --> 01:21:00,132
Speaker 2: way we grow them. I mean, if you care about climate,

1720
01:21:00,452 --> 01:21:04,412
Speaker 2: we're the most environmentally friendly farmers in the entire world.

1721
01:21:04,893 --> 01:21:08,572
Speaker 2: It's good for our economy. Buying New Zealand may and

1722
01:21:08,772 --> 01:21:12,572
Speaker 2: it's the best produce in the entire world. So do you, tyler,

1723
01:21:12,973 --> 01:21:16,293
Speaker 2: do you check where the food you're buying is from?

1724
01:21:16,532 --> 01:21:16,692
Speaker 3: Now?

1725
01:21:16,772 --> 01:21:21,213
Speaker 4: Before we started this conversation, no, will? I now look

1726
01:21:21,333 --> 01:21:22,253
Speaker 4: at the labels on.

1727
01:21:22,412 --> 01:21:25,732
Speaker 3: On, You're a bad person. Continue.

1728
01:21:26,412 --> 01:21:29,852
Speaker 4: So I went for price and and I really didn't

1729
01:21:29,893 --> 01:21:31,652
Speaker 4: know my meat that well because I said I go

1730
01:21:31,732 --> 01:21:34,973
Speaker 4: for sir loin, and apparently sirloin is not a premium

1731
01:21:35,093 --> 01:21:39,213
Speaker 4: cut of meats. But now I would, now genuinely I would,

1732
01:21:39,293 --> 01:21:40,972
Speaker 4: because I think I actually agree with you that we've

1733
01:21:40,973 --> 01:21:43,133
Speaker 4: got to look after our Kiwi farmers. And that's what

1734
01:21:43,253 --> 01:21:45,692
Speaker 4: beef and lamb the organization has been pushing for How

1735
01:21:45,812 --> 01:21:49,293
Speaker 4: long that buy New Zealand meat and lamb. It is

1736
01:21:49,333 --> 01:21:50,893
Speaker 4: good for the country. Sarah, how are you?

1737
01:21:52,253 --> 01:21:52,452
Speaker 8: Ah?

1738
01:21:52,572 --> 01:21:52,652
Speaker 3: Hi?

1739
01:21:53,053 --> 01:21:53,452
Speaker 14: Good thing?

1740
01:21:54,093 --> 01:21:54,213
Speaker 15: Oh?

1741
01:21:54,372 --> 01:21:56,293
Speaker 4: Now you're a beef farmer from Hawks Bay.

1742
01:21:57,973 --> 01:22:00,053
Speaker 3: Before we go, before we go into the chat, what's

1743
01:22:00,133 --> 01:22:00,732
Speaker 3: the best cut.

1744
01:22:03,412 --> 01:22:06,692
Speaker 8: Look, you know, any clutch will work with the right

1745
01:22:06,812 --> 01:22:08,852
Speaker 8: recipe and the pre pression.

1746
01:22:10,093 --> 01:22:11,973
Speaker 3: What about just fried up on the barbecue, just just

1747
01:22:12,213 --> 01:22:16,732
Speaker 3: just a straight state situation. Yeah, I feel it, Yeah,

1748
01:22:16,772 --> 01:22:17,893
Speaker 3: I feel it. Cool, I feel it.

1749
01:22:18,013 --> 01:22:18,173
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1750
01:22:18,293 --> 01:22:19,572
Speaker 4: And what sort of sauce do you put on it?

1751
01:22:19,612 --> 01:22:22,093
Speaker 4: But a mushroom sauce or no, just virgin meat?

1752
01:22:23,853 --> 01:22:26,852
Speaker 8: I think, no, just keep keep it simple, yeah, ye,

1753
01:22:27,013 --> 01:22:27,572
Speaker 8: really simple.

1754
01:22:27,692 --> 01:22:30,492
Speaker 2: Smear a bit of oil on its salted are about

1755
01:22:30,933 --> 01:22:35,013
Speaker 2: fifty degrees on the on the on the temperature gauge boom.

1756
01:22:35,013 --> 01:22:37,333
Speaker 4: Fifteen degrees. It's kind of take you seventeen hours. It's

1757
01:22:37,372 --> 01:22:38,213
Speaker 4: too of meat.

1758
01:22:38,412 --> 01:22:40,812
Speaker 2: Nah, that on I fill it along the barbecue. You're

1759
01:22:40,812 --> 01:22:42,652
Speaker 2: only talking about twenty minutes the tailant.

1760
01:22:42,692 --> 01:22:45,492
Speaker 4: All right, All right now, Sarah, talk to us about

1761
01:22:45,532 --> 01:22:49,732
Speaker 4: the realities of raising beef. I mean, clearly, I've got

1762
01:22:49,772 --> 01:22:52,692
Speaker 4: a wee notes here that you get bugger all per

1763
01:22:53,013 --> 01:22:54,973
Speaker 4: kilo of meat for that you.

1764
01:22:55,053 --> 01:22:59,733
Speaker 8: Sell, right, So it's definitely it's a supplanned demand situation.

1765
01:23:00,093 --> 01:23:03,652
Speaker 8: And the schedule changes at different times of the year,

1766
01:23:05,293 --> 01:23:10,092
Speaker 8: you know. So we've got two year old bull beef

1767
01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:13,572
Speaker 8: going into the work next week, and we're looking at

1768
01:23:13,572 --> 01:23:15,132
Speaker 8: about seven dollars a kilos.

1769
01:23:15,812 --> 01:23:17,133
Speaker 3: That does not seem like a lot to me.

1770
01:23:18,572 --> 01:23:20,173
Speaker 6: No, And when you think that.

1771
01:23:20,253 --> 01:23:26,093
Speaker 8: That animal live weight could be six hundred kilos on

1772
01:23:26,253 --> 01:23:29,972
Speaker 8: the hook, it's generally a fifty percent yield far out.

1773
01:23:30,412 --> 01:23:34,452
Speaker 4: And so can you talk to us about the supply

1774
01:23:34,692 --> 01:23:39,613
Speaker 4: situation or the supply chain much without wrecking your relationships,

1775
01:23:39,612 --> 01:23:41,492
Speaker 4: because I'm just trying to figure out who gets the

1776
01:23:41,933 --> 01:23:44,492
Speaker 4: most of the money. By the time it gets to

1777
01:23:44,532 --> 01:23:47,732
Speaker 4: the supermarket shelve or to the butcher, where is all

1778
01:23:47,812 --> 01:23:49,812
Speaker 4: that cash going? You know, by the time Matt pays

1779
01:23:49,853 --> 01:23:53,412
Speaker 4: eighty eight bucks a kilo, that's a big fortilo.

1780
01:23:55,293 --> 01:23:58,333
Speaker 8: Yeah, the supermarkets are taking a big chunk of that.

1781
01:23:58,532 --> 01:24:01,173
Speaker 8: But you know, we're really happy with our suppliers and

1782
01:24:01,253 --> 01:24:05,492
Speaker 8: our silverfend funds. We've got a brilliant agent, and you know,

1783
01:24:05,612 --> 01:24:08,812
Speaker 8: it costs money to be in business. So I don't

1784
01:24:09,173 --> 01:24:14,092
Speaker 8: you know out of that that the christ per head

1785
01:24:14,253 --> 01:24:20,093
Speaker 8: we paid, levees, we pay inspecting fees, so you can't

1786
01:24:20,412 --> 01:24:22,652
Speaker 8: you see the meat works are taking all the money.

1787
01:24:23,492 --> 01:24:27,333
Speaker 8: But yeah, everybody clips the ticket along the way least.

1788
01:24:27,652 --> 01:24:30,973
Speaker 2: So Sarah, if I served up the same cut of

1789
01:24:31,133 --> 01:24:33,772
Speaker 2: beef from Australia and the same cut of beef that

1790
01:24:33,853 --> 01:24:35,572
Speaker 2: you're producing there in Hawk's Bay.

1791
01:24:36,013 --> 01:24:37,452
Speaker 3: Would you be able to tell the difference.

1792
01:24:39,452 --> 01:24:39,852
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1793
01:24:39,893 --> 01:24:44,052
Speaker 8: I'd been how good you are cooking it, but exactly

1794
01:24:44,133 --> 01:24:51,652
Speaker 8: the same. I'm pretty opposed to us importing beef from Australia. Yeah,

1795
01:24:52,133 --> 01:24:57,212
Speaker 8: it's a very sad situation. And we've just recently traveled

1796
01:24:57,213 --> 01:25:00,253
Speaker 8: to England and they've got such an amazing campaign to

1797
01:25:00,333 --> 01:25:03,973
Speaker 8: support their British farmers. In fact, it's very hard to

1798
01:25:04,013 --> 01:25:09,253
Speaker 8: find New Zealand lamb over there. But yeah, no we can't.

1799
01:25:09,372 --> 01:25:12,853
Speaker 8: We've you know, we've got all these high welfare standards.

1800
01:25:14,213 --> 01:25:16,772
Speaker 8: You know it's our farmers putting all the money back

1801
01:25:16,812 --> 01:25:19,572
Speaker 8: into the economy. You know, we pay the taxes from

1802
01:25:19,612 --> 01:25:22,253
Speaker 8: that got to support New Zealand farmers.

1803
01:25:22,452 --> 01:25:24,492
Speaker 3: Do you do you when?

1804
01:25:24,572 --> 01:25:24,933
Speaker 4: Maybe not?

1805
01:25:25,093 --> 01:25:25,652
Speaker 26: Do you need?

1806
01:25:25,812 --> 01:25:28,133
Speaker 4: But would you want more support from our government if

1807
01:25:28,173 --> 01:25:31,133
Speaker 4: you could waive a magic wand what would you want

1808
01:25:31,173 --> 01:25:33,012
Speaker 4: to happen to try and get a bit more support

1809
01:25:33,053 --> 01:25:33,972
Speaker 4: for you as a beef farmer?

1810
01:25:37,412 --> 01:25:41,932
Speaker 8: God, I don't know, there's there's so many things you want.

1811
01:25:42,053 --> 01:25:45,852
Speaker 8: Definitely this is a better government for us after the

1812
01:25:45,933 --> 01:25:49,333
Speaker 8: last one for six years. We just have to we

1813
01:25:49,853 --> 01:25:53,053
Speaker 8: just have to see how plays out. But I think

1814
01:25:53,133 --> 01:25:54,772
Speaker 8: we need to look at the tax brackets.

1815
01:25:55,572 --> 01:25:59,692
Speaker 2: M m yeah, what about a marketing campaign from the

1816
01:25:59,772 --> 01:26:03,213
Speaker 2: government which basically goes New Zealand beef it's morally better,

1817
01:26:03,532 --> 01:26:05,532
Speaker 2: it's better for the economy, and it's the best in

1818
01:26:05,572 --> 01:26:08,293
Speaker 2: the world. If you buy Australian meat, you're a bad.

1819
01:26:10,053 --> 01:26:10,333
Speaker 15: Sarah.

1820
01:26:10,333 --> 01:26:13,412
Speaker 8: But it's not just Australian meat that's coming into New Zealander.

1821
01:26:13,492 --> 01:26:16,652
Speaker 2: The I mean you look at that's specifically what we're

1822
01:26:16,652 --> 01:26:18,652
Speaker 2: talking about the moment pork. Don't get me started on

1823
01:26:18,772 --> 01:26:21,572
Speaker 2: buying overseas pork. I mean that is that is a

1824
01:26:21,772 --> 01:26:25,732
Speaker 2: horror that overseas pork is a horror show.

1825
01:26:25,973 --> 01:26:27,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

1826
01:26:27,612 --> 01:26:29,972
Speaker 8: And it's just squeezed all our pork farmers.

1827
01:26:30,013 --> 01:26:30,852
Speaker 6: It's a shocker.

1828
01:26:31,893 --> 01:26:35,333
Speaker 8: But yeah, morally i'd love you know kie we made

1829
01:26:35,572 --> 01:26:38,333
Speaker 8: campaign yeah remember that from the eighties.

1830
01:26:38,612 --> 01:26:41,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, isn't that what Beef and LAMB the organization

1831
01:26:42,053 --> 01:26:44,013
Speaker 4: have been doing after And I think they do a

1832
01:26:44,013 --> 01:26:46,053
Speaker 4: pretty good job. You know, they've got good ambassadors. But

1833
01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:48,053
Speaker 4: I thought that's what they've been pushing for for the

1834
01:26:48,253 --> 01:26:50,652
Speaker 4: last twenty years, is that you need to buy New

1835
01:26:50,732 --> 01:26:51,253
Speaker 4: Zealand meat.

1836
01:26:52,973 --> 01:26:54,412
Speaker 15: Wow. It's not.

1837
01:26:54,853 --> 01:26:57,972
Speaker 8: I don't know what's advertising prices these days. Maybe that's

1838
01:26:58,053 --> 01:26:58,892
Speaker 8: the problem.

1839
01:26:59,213 --> 01:27:00,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well they were good ads.

1840
01:27:01,093 --> 01:27:05,973
Speaker 2: See the bloody water Carrington and amor t ones and

1841
01:27:06,053 --> 01:27:08,612
Speaker 2: the dark and then you have you had the they

1842
01:27:08,692 --> 01:27:11,532
Speaker 2: had the information owl's that's right, and then they danced

1843
01:27:11,572 --> 01:27:14,012
Speaker 2: after the little bit at the end, white T shirts.

1844
01:27:14,053 --> 01:27:19,972
Speaker 3: That was good stuff. Bike rider Sarah Omer Sarah, Yeah, yeah,

1845
01:27:20,013 --> 01:27:20,852
Speaker 3: she was in there, wasn't she.

1846
01:27:21,093 --> 01:27:24,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, bring it back. We're gonna put you in

1847
01:27:24,213 --> 01:27:26,492
Speaker 4: touch with New Zealand Beef and Lamb because that's a

1848
01:27:26,532 --> 01:27:28,372
Speaker 4: free beef for them. I reckon, Sarah, You're going to

1849
01:27:28,412 --> 01:27:30,852
Speaker 4: be a great asset to that organization. Just to each

1850
01:27:30,853 --> 01:27:32,612
Speaker 4: of your last question I got for you is that

1851
01:27:32,732 --> 01:27:35,692
Speaker 4: part of this article, Willworth said that they only buy

1852
01:27:35,933 --> 01:27:40,093
Speaker 4: New Zealand beef, so without you know, naming and shaming here.

1853
01:27:40,293 --> 01:27:44,012
Speaker 4: The other major supermarket chain is food Stuff's aka New World.

1854
01:27:44,532 --> 01:27:47,852
Speaker 4: Surely the if New Will comes to the party then

1855
01:27:47,893 --> 01:27:49,052
Speaker 4: that solves a lot of problems.

1856
01:27:50,173 --> 01:27:52,613
Speaker 8: Yeah, because it'll block that market for Australia.

1857
01:27:52,853 --> 01:27:53,093
Speaker 26: Sure.

1858
01:27:53,412 --> 01:27:56,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sarah. Very nice to chat with you. Oh eight

1859
01:27:56,933 --> 01:27:58,772
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1860
01:27:58,933 --> 01:28:02,052
Speaker 4: when you are buying meat at the supermarket or your butcher.

1861
01:28:02,053 --> 01:28:04,092
Speaker 4: I suppose it's less of an issue at the butcher,

1862
01:28:04,173 --> 01:28:06,253
Speaker 4: but when you're buying your meat, do you always try

1863
01:28:06,293 --> 01:28:09,053
Speaker 4: to go for Kiwi Born and Brett oh eight one

1864
01:28:09,093 --> 01:28:10,852
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eight years. Number to call it

1865
01:28:11,013 --> 01:28:14,692
Speaker 4: is sixteen past three News Talks. He'd be very good

1866
01:28:14,732 --> 01:28:16,452
Speaker 4: afternoon to you. Eighteen past three.

1867
01:28:16,732 --> 01:28:19,133
Speaker 3: We were just trying to remember New Zealand Beef and

1868
01:28:19,253 --> 01:28:20,053
Speaker 3: lamb ambassadors.

1869
01:28:20,253 --> 01:28:22,452
Speaker 4: To be fair, they've had a lot of very high

1870
01:28:22,532 --> 01:28:24,333
Speaker 4: profile New Zealand dis ambassadors.

1871
01:28:24,372 --> 01:28:26,532
Speaker 3: Sarah Olmer, the cyclist, she was not the b mix

1872
01:28:26,572 --> 01:28:27,452
Speaker 3: of that. Sarah Walker.

1873
01:28:27,612 --> 01:28:28,972
Speaker 4: Yep, both of another inbssadors.

1874
01:28:29,013 --> 01:28:30,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stacy Warker is currently one.

1875
01:28:30,853 --> 01:28:31,053
Speaker 5: Yep.

1876
01:28:31,293 --> 01:28:34,212
Speaker 4: Well are some other ones we had the Evis windows

1877
01:28:34,253 --> 01:28:37,612
Speaker 4: that we mentioned, Oh yep, yep, both the Sophie Pesco yep,

1878
01:28:37,692 --> 01:28:39,052
Speaker 4: she was in there. Lisa Carrington.

1879
01:28:39,093 --> 01:28:42,333
Speaker 3: Are those that'd still going? What if Dame Lisa Carrington

1880
01:28:42,372 --> 01:28:43,093
Speaker 3: tells me to do old?

1881
01:28:43,652 --> 01:28:46,532
Speaker 4: I will buy huge fan mark.

1882
01:28:46,612 --> 01:28:46,933
Speaker 3: How are you?

1883
01:28:48,213 --> 01:28:48,412
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1884
01:28:48,452 --> 01:28:51,772
Speaker 27: Good evening guys, How are you no?

1885
01:28:52,013 --> 01:28:54,012
Speaker 4: Very well? Very good afternoon to you. And you're great

1886
01:28:54,013 --> 01:28:55,533
Speaker 4: to chat to because you're a butcher.

1887
01:28:56,412 --> 01:28:58,893
Speaker 27: Yeah, I'm butchered by trade. I've also worked in the

1888
01:28:58,933 --> 01:29:02,612
Speaker 27: export industry over thirty years now, so I've seen it

1889
01:29:02,692 --> 01:29:05,213
Speaker 27: all and I know where it all comes from, and

1890
01:29:05,452 --> 01:29:07,612
Speaker 27: I can sort of understand why there's a shortage. And

1891
01:29:07,692 --> 01:29:10,972
Speaker 27: I can also understand deeply why a lot of farmers,

1892
01:29:11,093 --> 01:29:13,572
Speaker 27: especially sheep farmers out there getting out of the business

1893
01:29:13,612 --> 01:29:15,932
Speaker 27: and now of the game because for a long time

1894
01:29:15,973 --> 01:29:19,772
Speaker 27: they've been screwed over and pushed around. And yeah, so

1895
01:29:20,372 --> 01:29:22,492
Speaker 27: you're talking about the Australian beef. I was a bit

1896
01:29:22,812 --> 01:29:26,532
Speaker 27: shocked myself, but I saw it coming due to the

1897
01:29:26,572 --> 01:29:27,732
Speaker 27: simple factors with the.

1898
01:29:27,732 --> 01:29:28,892
Speaker 14: Weather with head and the.

1899
01:29:30,412 --> 01:29:33,572
Speaker 27: Lack of prime stock available for the beat companies to

1900
01:29:33,692 --> 01:29:39,173
Speaker 27: kill with. Basically, I'm still working in the retail trade now,

1901
01:29:39,412 --> 01:29:42,293
Speaker 27: and there was probably a good couple of weeks there

1902
01:29:42,333 --> 01:29:45,372
Speaker 27: where there was two primal cuts like Ribbi and Waterhouse

1903
01:29:45,452 --> 01:29:48,173
Speaker 27: and Philip we just couldn't get. Now, we didn't get

1904
01:29:48,173 --> 01:29:50,412
Speaker 27: Australian beef in. It just meant that we just had

1905
01:29:50,412 --> 01:29:51,892
Speaker 27: to run with what they had and become a bit

1906
01:29:51,973 --> 01:29:58,052
Speaker 27: more innovative with other products. But I have seen back

1907
01:29:58,093 --> 01:30:02,293
Speaker 27: and saves with Australian beef and what grinds my bones

1908
01:30:02,372 --> 01:30:06,812
Speaker 27: that they're charged in the same price as newsy On

1909
01:30:06,893 --> 01:30:09,612
Speaker 27: beef and that's just not right. You can always tell

1910
01:30:09,692 --> 01:30:13,293
Speaker 27: the difference with New Zealand beef and Australian beef. It

1911
01:30:13,372 --> 01:30:15,652
Speaker 27: depends what part of Australia it comes through. If you've

1912
01:30:15,652 --> 01:30:18,812
Speaker 27: got grain feed beef, it's quite pale and it can

1913
01:30:18,853 --> 01:30:21,093
Speaker 27: be quite heavily and fat. And if you go to

1914
01:30:21,173 --> 01:30:24,452
Speaker 27: the southern parts of Australia like Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide,

1915
01:30:24,732 --> 01:30:28,492
Speaker 27: especially Tasmania, they've got a lot of their weather and

1916
01:30:28,572 --> 01:30:31,053
Speaker 27: climates very much like New Zealand. I did a bit

1917
01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:34,253
Speaker 27: of butchering over in Australia and up in Ken's and

1918
01:30:34,372 --> 01:30:36,812
Speaker 27: a lot of our beef and lamb actually come from

1919
01:30:36,893 --> 01:30:38,893
Speaker 27: Tasmania and the law of part of Australia because it

1920
01:30:39,013 --> 01:30:41,972
Speaker 27: was grass fed and it was actually pretty top quality stuff.

1921
01:30:42,053 --> 01:30:45,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, do you find as a meat retailer that

1922
01:30:46,572 --> 01:30:50,092
Speaker 2: kiwis ask and care that it comes from New Zealand

1923
01:30:50,133 --> 01:30:51,532
Speaker 2: and it's not important to me?

1924
01:30:53,013 --> 01:30:57,333
Speaker 27: Oh, of course they do, like you know, customers, especially

1925
01:30:57,492 --> 01:30:59,492
Speaker 27: like we've accepted the fat. Most of their fruit and

1926
01:30:59,532 --> 01:31:01,972
Speaker 27: everything comes from overseas and a lot of the other products.

1927
01:31:02,013 --> 01:31:04,652
Speaker 27: But when it comes to meat, it's a very personal

1928
01:31:04,732 --> 01:31:07,893
Speaker 27: thing because you're shopping for quality. The pork industry was

1929
01:31:08,013 --> 01:31:11,013
Speaker 27: ruined and probably a good thirty plus years ago when

1930
01:31:11,053 --> 01:31:14,452
Speaker 27: the government opened the floodgates to allow imported pork in.

1931
01:31:14,893 --> 01:31:16,012
Speaker 21: And my father was a good.

1932
01:31:16,452 --> 01:31:19,772
Speaker 27: Pork farmer Indoneding along with his neighbor who was three

1933
01:31:19,853 --> 01:31:21,452
Speaker 27: times as bigger, and there was.

1934
01:31:21,412 --> 01:31:22,372
Speaker 21: Another two large.

1935
01:31:22,612 --> 01:31:26,652
Speaker 27: There was four large basically big farms Indonedan that supplied

1936
01:31:26,732 --> 01:31:31,652
Speaker 27: the local avatar, which that avatar then supplied one hundred

1937
01:31:31,652 --> 01:31:34,372
Speaker 27: and eighty something brought to shops around the Otago and

1938
01:31:34,933 --> 01:31:37,492
Speaker 27: Lower Southern region. So that's a lot of pigs that

1939
01:31:37,572 --> 01:31:40,732
Speaker 27: were New Zealand pork. So basically when they opened the

1940
01:31:40,772 --> 01:31:44,732
Speaker 27: floodgates allowed the overseas pork and then it killed the

1941
01:31:44,812 --> 01:31:47,612
Speaker 27: pork farmers because it was cheaper. Now, the reason why

1942
01:31:47,692 --> 01:31:52,532
Speaker 27: we get so much in is because the demand for

1943
01:31:52,732 --> 01:31:55,572
Speaker 27: pork products, especially small goods and your bacons and all

1944
01:31:55,612 --> 01:32:00,532
Speaker 27: that further processing outstrips the supply now for fresh pork

1945
01:32:00,692 --> 01:32:05,973
Speaker 27: and pork cork to actually plan, they got their big

1946
01:32:06,093 --> 01:32:08,213
Speaker 27: owned farms for them to plan the specials. It takes

1947
01:32:08,452 --> 01:32:12,013
Speaker 27: month in advance just for for those to raise the

1948
01:32:12,053 --> 01:32:15,893
Speaker 27: packs for certain South Island and North Island fresh. You know,

1949
01:32:16,013 --> 01:32:18,652
Speaker 27: your food stuff which is your smaller New World, and

1950
01:32:18,652 --> 01:32:21,853
Speaker 27: your packing staves, and your progressive which is your countdowns,

1951
01:32:22,253 --> 01:32:25,253
Speaker 27: you know, to actually get the stock and volume and numbers.

1952
01:32:26,333 --> 01:32:29,053
Speaker 27: There's days where we're put in orders for our whole

1953
01:32:29,093 --> 01:32:31,053
Speaker 27: packs for the whole week and we might be cut

1954
01:32:31,133 --> 01:32:35,092
Speaker 27: short because they've got to supply you know, other demands

1955
01:32:35,133 --> 01:32:37,732
Speaker 27: all their overseas market. You know, we do export port,

1956
01:32:38,213 --> 01:32:40,293
Speaker 27: not a lot, not no one amount of the volume

1957
01:32:40,372 --> 01:32:44,213
Speaker 27: that we get in. And other that annoys me too

1958
01:32:44,492 --> 01:32:47,173
Speaker 27: is that the public have got the perception that all

1959
01:32:47,213 --> 01:32:51,093
Speaker 27: the supermarkets and your butcher's buying low grade meat. Now

1960
01:32:51,293 --> 01:32:54,253
Speaker 27: that's not true. I work for a large export company

1961
01:32:54,293 --> 01:32:58,612
Speaker 27: as production for the supervisor, and quite often we would

1962
01:32:58,652 --> 01:33:01,852
Speaker 27: be filling local market orders that would be basically for

1963
01:33:02,013 --> 01:33:04,492
Speaker 27: all the food stuff. And when you're progressive and it

1964
01:33:04,612 --> 01:33:06,973
Speaker 27: was the same export quality, lamb is what would be

1965
01:33:07,053 --> 01:33:09,492
Speaker 27: going in the same bags, samee cartons.

1966
01:33:10,133 --> 01:33:12,812
Speaker 4: Well thanks for that those insights, Mark, Yeah, good to

1967
01:33:12,933 --> 01:33:16,852
Speaker 4: chat quick text here. Then we're going to get to

1968
01:33:18,053 --> 01:33:20,412
Speaker 4: some more messages. Hi, guys. I worked on a farm

1969
01:33:20,772 --> 01:33:23,253
Speaker 4: a few years ago with cows on it. And asked

1970
01:33:23,293 --> 01:33:26,492
Speaker 4: the farmer if supplement feed was good and he said,

1971
01:33:26,652 --> 01:33:30,013
Speaker 4: pasture is king. That is New Zealand. B from Mike.

1972
01:33:30,133 --> 01:33:32,772
Speaker 4: Keep those coming through. On nineteen ninety two. It is

1973
01:33:32,893 --> 01:33:34,012
Speaker 4: twenty four past three.

1974
01:33:37,812 --> 01:33:41,173
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1975
01:33:41,173 --> 01:33:43,372
Speaker 1: and eighty eighty on News Talks, HEADB.

1976
01:33:46,372 --> 01:33:51,133
Speaker 4: Talks, head be right together, pullet together, All right talking

1977
01:33:51,253 --> 01:33:53,852
Speaker 4: met Pete. What's your take on the meat situation?

1978
01:33:55,053 --> 01:33:55,492
Speaker 21: Yeah, here you go.

1979
01:33:56,532 --> 01:34:00,652
Speaker 24: Yeah, I reckon that, you know, it is expensive all

1980
01:34:01,333 --> 01:34:03,053
Speaker 24: I'm born to be on a farm myself and a

1981
01:34:03,133 --> 01:34:05,572
Speaker 24: dairy farm. They all try to support each other and

1982
01:34:06,133 --> 01:34:06,812
Speaker 24: that sort of thing.

1983
01:34:06,853 --> 01:34:07,692
Speaker 27: I want to buy a New.

1984
01:34:07,652 --> 01:34:10,253
Speaker 24: Zealand project something as well. But when you're buying a

1985
01:34:10,333 --> 01:34:13,173
Speaker 24: Leader Lamb or something in London or whatever, and a

1986
01:34:13,253 --> 01:34:16,173
Speaker 24: steer over there than here in New Zealand, there's something wrong.

1987
01:34:16,333 --> 01:34:19,492
Speaker 24: You know, doesn't go on a container, haven't got all

1988
01:34:19,532 --> 01:34:23,852
Speaker 24: that costs. But I reckon what should happen is really

1989
01:34:24,053 --> 01:34:27,732
Speaker 24: is that maybe the farmers, like Sarah said, you know,

1990
01:34:27,893 --> 01:34:31,973
Speaker 24: maybe the farmers should get behind so cut out the supermarkets.

1991
01:34:31,973 --> 01:34:32,372
Speaker 9: We all know that.

1992
01:34:32,452 --> 01:34:35,772
Speaker 24: But the supermarkets they cut down their suppliers and we

1993
01:34:35,853 --> 01:34:38,213
Speaker 24: all know supermarkets be theory. Well, we all know that,

1994
01:34:38,973 --> 01:34:42,732
Speaker 24: so maybe the farmers should get behind set up in

1995
01:34:42,812 --> 01:34:46,372
Speaker 24: Abertoia or whatever all freezing works that they supply their

1996
01:34:46,452 --> 01:34:50,173
Speaker 24: meat to. This meat is solely it's not getting exported,

1997
01:34:50,893 --> 01:34:53,852
Speaker 24: solely going to old u healand market, so he doesn't

1998
01:34:53,893 --> 01:34:56,333
Speaker 24: go to a supermarket. Set up some butcher shops in

1999
01:34:56,452 --> 01:34:58,692
Speaker 24: towns in the cities, so it's not going to that

2000
01:34:58,812 --> 01:35:01,772
Speaker 24: supermarket chaink cut them out. We all know that they

2001
01:35:01,853 --> 01:35:02,852
Speaker 24: put a hell of a market up.

2002
01:35:02,853 --> 01:35:03,412
Speaker 16: We all know that.

2003
01:35:03,772 --> 01:35:06,412
Speaker 4: So you're talking almost like a Fonterra type set up

2004
01:35:06,412 --> 01:35:09,492
Speaker 4: that you've got a farmer collective with beef farmers who

2005
01:35:09,572 --> 01:35:11,972
Speaker 4: try and set up their own operation and then hopefully

2006
01:35:12,093 --> 01:35:13,572
Speaker 4: can make a better money from it.

2007
01:35:13,692 --> 01:35:15,692
Speaker 2: I mean, they're doing everything they can. They're taking the

2008
01:35:15,772 --> 01:35:19,213
Speaker 2: best option. But yeah, I mean so many people tried

2009
01:35:19,213 --> 01:35:21,812
Speaker 2: to cut supermarkets out of the situation. But I guess

2010
01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:24,812
Speaker 2: what people can do is go to butchers, and maybe

2011
01:35:24,893 --> 01:35:27,293
Speaker 2: they can if it's something that you care about, you

2012
01:35:27,333 --> 01:35:29,933
Speaker 2: can go to people that source their meat in a

2013
01:35:29,973 --> 01:35:33,333
Speaker 2: different way. But most people are still going to buy

2014
01:35:33,372 --> 01:35:35,053
Speaker 2: their meat from the supermarkets just the way it is.

2015
01:35:35,213 --> 01:35:37,053
Speaker 4: Pete you're a good man. Thank you very much for

2016
01:35:37,213 --> 01:35:41,412
Speaker 4: calling through. We'll chet again soon. Now before we get

2017
01:35:41,452 --> 01:35:43,892
Speaker 4: to the headlines. You've got a bit of effectoid for us,

2018
01:35:43,933 --> 01:35:44,093
Speaker 4: do you.

2019
01:35:44,572 --> 01:35:47,053
Speaker 3: Oh no, Well, I just wanted to I just want

2020
01:35:47,053 --> 01:35:49,893
Speaker 3: to ask you a question, Tyler. I sometimes have me

2021
01:35:49,973 --> 01:35:54,173
Speaker 3: with it. Okay, what is the most eaten type of

2022
01:35:54,253 --> 01:35:54,892
Speaker 3: meat in the world?

2023
01:35:55,692 --> 01:35:57,213
Speaker 4: Well, that's easy, is it?

2024
01:35:57,893 --> 01:35:58,572
Speaker 3: I reckon it is?

2025
01:35:59,053 --> 01:36:01,372
Speaker 4: Join my answer. Now I'll have a guess check it.

2026
01:36:01,732 --> 01:36:02,732
Speaker 4: Check them by a long shot.

2027
01:36:02,772 --> 01:36:05,852
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well I'll tell you in a bit most

2028
01:36:05,973 --> 01:36:07,612
Speaker 2: eaten meat in the world.

2029
01:36:07,652 --> 01:36:10,452
Speaker 4: If you reckon you No. Nine two text it through

2030
01:36:10,692 --> 01:36:13,973
Speaker 4: the city that thinks it's tricker. It's twenty eight pasts.

2031
01:36:13,772 --> 01:36:20,812
Speaker 12: Three youth talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis

2032
01:36:20,893 --> 01:36:24,173
Speaker 12: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. Simeon Brown says

2033
01:36:24,213 --> 01:36:28,213
Speaker 12: significant problems at Wellington City Council warrant appointing a Crown

2034
01:36:28,293 --> 01:36:32,213
Speaker 12: observer to help with finances and rewriting the long term plan.

2035
01:36:32,732 --> 01:36:37,133
Speaker 12: Councilors and the Mayor are currently meeting Orrangatamadiki says there'll

2036
01:36:37,173 --> 01:36:40,932
Speaker 12: be a debrief and devaluation of how youth inmates got

2037
01:36:41,013 --> 01:36:44,093
Speaker 12: on the roof of a witty justice facility yesterday, some

2038
01:36:44,333 --> 01:36:48,892
Speaker 12: staying there overnight. Utur police have charged a fifty year

2039
01:36:48,933 --> 01:36:51,732
Speaker 12: old man over the shooting death of a hunter into

2040
01:36:51,973 --> 01:36:56,372
Speaker 12: Urduwedda Rangers last year. Police coast Guard in Surf Life

2041
01:36:56,452 --> 01:36:58,892
Speaker 12: Saving are searching for an eighty three year old Northern

2042
01:36:59,013 --> 01:37:02,372
Speaker 12: man who swims in Farga day harbored daily, but hasn't

2043
01:37:02,412 --> 01:37:06,612
Speaker 12: been seen since Saturday. The Green Party says it's excited

2044
01:37:06,732 --> 01:37:09,572
Speaker 12: to welcome you MP Benjamin door Oil, who's stepping into

2045
01:37:09,612 --> 01:37:14,253
Speaker 12: parliament now. The Speaker has olstered Darlene Taner. Associate Education

2046
01:37:14,412 --> 01:37:17,293
Speaker 12: Minister David Seymour says the butter chicken being offered and

2047
01:37:17,372 --> 01:37:20,452
Speaker 12: the new school lunch program is great, even by his

2048
01:37:20,652 --> 01:37:25,612
Speaker 12: own picky standards. Four public sector agencies report increase in

2049
01:37:25,732 --> 01:37:29,692
Speaker 12: spending on consultants following a director of two cup back.

2050
01:37:30,013 --> 01:37:32,932
Speaker 12: Find out more at endzt Herald Premium Back to matt

2051
01:37:32,973 --> 01:37:34,532
Speaker 12: Ethan Tyler Adams, thank.

2052
01:37:34,372 --> 01:37:36,492
Speaker 4: You very much, Raylean. I hope that butter chicken is

2053
01:37:36,532 --> 01:37:37,333
Speaker 4: New Zealand chicken.

2054
01:37:38,253 --> 01:37:38,492
Speaker 3: Wow.

2055
01:37:39,013 --> 01:37:42,213
Speaker 2: Just before the news headlines, I asked the question, what's

2056
01:37:42,253 --> 01:37:45,012
Speaker 2: the most consumed type of meat in the world.

2057
01:37:45,492 --> 01:37:49,812
Speaker 4: Tyler said, chicken, and I would say probably eighty percent

2058
01:37:49,893 --> 01:37:51,692
Speaker 4: of the texts have come through and they're flooded through.

2059
01:37:51,812 --> 01:37:52,732
Speaker 4: Most people are saying.

2060
01:37:52,612 --> 01:37:56,253
Speaker 2: Goat, goat, yeah, wow, goat dirt. The old goat comes

2061
01:37:56,293 --> 01:37:58,253
Speaker 2: in fifth, okay, way down the list.

2062
01:37:58,372 --> 01:37:58,572
Speaker 18: Yeah.

2063
01:37:58,572 --> 01:38:02,012
Speaker 2: Then it's lamb yeah, and then beef at twenty five percent.

2064
01:38:02,973 --> 01:38:07,012
Speaker 2: Then check in at number two. Humans eat fifty billion

2065
01:38:07,133 --> 01:38:10,372
Speaker 2: chickens a year. That's about six point twenty five chickens

2066
01:38:10,452 --> 01:38:13,253
Speaker 2: per human. We really it's a poultry side.

2067
01:38:13,093 --> 01:38:13,333
Speaker 5: Isn't it.

2068
01:38:14,732 --> 01:38:17,772
Speaker 2: There's a lot of chops, but the number one most

2069
01:38:17,812 --> 01:38:20,732
Speaker 2: consumed meat in the world is pork at thirty six percent.

2070
01:38:21,253 --> 01:38:23,692
Speaker 4: There you go, yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten

2071
01:38:23,732 --> 01:38:24,652
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call.

2072
01:38:24,732 --> 01:38:24,852
Speaker 1: Now.

2073
01:38:24,973 --> 01:38:27,572
Speaker 4: A lot of texts have come through for you, Matt,

2074
01:38:27,652 --> 01:38:30,492
Speaker 4: actually about your barbecue game. They're not they're not that

2075
01:38:30,612 --> 01:38:33,852
Speaker 4: impressed with your barbecue game. Well, the the I Phillip wasn't.

2076
01:38:33,772 --> 01:38:35,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, the eye Phillip, Yeah, the eye Philip that I

2077
01:38:35,853 --> 01:38:38,412
Speaker 2: cook on the barbecue takes about twenty five minutes, internal

2078
01:38:38,452 --> 01:38:41,452
Speaker 2: temperature about fifty to fifty five Senegrade, what's problem with that?

2079
01:38:41,692 --> 01:38:43,293
Speaker 4: Tennis? What do you reckon?

2080
01:38:43,572 --> 01:38:46,532
Speaker 10: Can you can you, I can you wash? Can you

2081
01:38:46,612 --> 01:38:49,253
Speaker 10: do anything practical? Geta from the barbecue?

2082
01:38:50,213 --> 01:38:51,173
Speaker 3: What's wrong with my eye?

2083
01:38:52,532 --> 01:38:52,732
Speaker 15: Mate?

2084
01:38:52,812 --> 01:38:54,812
Speaker 10: Last a couple of weeks ago, you were taken on

2085
01:38:54,893 --> 01:38:56,772
Speaker 10: the order you can eat buffet like a bush. Peak

2086
01:38:56,933 --> 01:39:02,012
Speaker 10: is a personal challenge. Now now you're taking a piece

2087
01:39:02,053 --> 01:39:04,213
Speaker 10: of meat that the good veterinarian should have back in

2088
01:39:04,293 --> 01:39:07,133
Speaker 10: the panic in fifteen minutes. When you're telling me it

2089
01:39:07,213 --> 01:39:07,893
Speaker 10: takes longer than that.

2090
01:39:08,013 --> 01:39:10,253
Speaker 3: The cork it you're great, Dennis, Well, hang on what

2091
01:39:10,692 --> 01:39:13,052
Speaker 3: I'm talking about? A full one and a half kg?

2092
01:39:14,173 --> 01:39:16,293
Speaker 10: No good on the barbecue, mate. Barbecue meat's got to

2093
01:39:16,333 --> 01:39:18,013
Speaker 10: have a bit of fat in it, and I love it.

2094
01:39:18,053 --> 01:39:20,253
Speaker 10: I'm an each shif. I love iceil. It's beautiful steak,

2095
01:39:20,293 --> 01:39:22,253
Speaker 10: it's got it's got no real flavor in it because

2096
01:39:22,253 --> 01:39:25,333
Speaker 10: it's got no fat. It's too lean. Scotch philets you

2097
01:39:25,412 --> 01:39:29,052
Speaker 10: know that your money shot on the on the barbecue entirely.

2098
01:39:29,093 --> 01:39:31,092
Speaker 10: You see the line is nice too, But Scotch Philip,

2099
01:39:31,133 --> 01:39:31,732
Speaker 10: that's the one you want.

2100
01:39:31,732 --> 01:39:32,293
Speaker 14: You've got to have a.

2101
01:39:32,293 --> 01:39:35,093
Speaker 10: Little bit of fat in your meat on your barbecue,

2102
01:39:35,093 --> 01:39:36,532
Speaker 10: and you're going to wringer it out when you cook

2103
01:39:36,572 --> 01:39:38,932
Speaker 10: it properly and you're not. I'm not saying you should

2104
01:39:38,933 --> 01:39:41,452
Speaker 10: eat it, don't eat it, but you need it to

2105
01:39:41,492 --> 01:39:42,173
Speaker 10: get some flavor.

2106
01:39:42,333 --> 01:39:44,452
Speaker 2: So you're saying, Dennis, is that my my fats going

2107
01:39:44,532 --> 01:39:47,133
Speaker 2: through the the the grill and the barbecue and going

2108
01:39:47,173 --> 01:39:48,732
Speaker 2: on to the fire and be wasting.

2109
01:39:50,013 --> 01:39:52,213
Speaker 10: No, you haven't got any fat in the filip mate's a.

2110
01:39:52,213 --> 01:39:53,972
Speaker 5: Little bit well.

2111
01:39:55,532 --> 01:39:58,253
Speaker 3: Eight kilo. It was a little bit down.

2112
01:39:58,893 --> 01:40:00,852
Speaker 10: If you if you, if you're paying eighty bucks of

2113
01:40:00,933 --> 01:40:02,612
Speaker 10: kilo for it too, I've got a bridge I'd like

2114
01:40:02,652 --> 01:40:04,293
Speaker 10: to talk to you about after this phone.

2115
01:40:04,173 --> 01:40:05,932
Speaker 2: Call, to be fair, To be fair, it was fifty

2116
01:40:05,973 --> 01:40:08,013
Speaker 2: bucks of kilo because it was it was eighty eight

2117
01:40:08,053 --> 01:40:09,892
Speaker 2: bars top.

2118
01:40:09,732 --> 01:40:12,812
Speaker 10: Money for it should be about fifty nine dollars sixty

2119
01:40:12,853 --> 01:40:15,452
Speaker 10: dollars ki. But look, I drive around the country a lot,

2120
01:40:15,652 --> 01:40:18,973
Speaker 10: and being in each chef, I look at stocking. The

2121
01:40:19,053 --> 01:40:21,492
Speaker 10: problem with got guys is no stock in the paddicks. Yeah,

2122
01:40:21,652 --> 01:40:25,013
Speaker 10: and there hasn't been stocking. It's been dwindling over the

2123
01:40:25,133 --> 01:40:27,612
Speaker 10: last four or five years. We need to address there,

2124
01:40:28,412 --> 01:40:31,092
Speaker 10: and we need to make it worthwhile the farmers putting

2125
01:40:31,173 --> 01:40:34,372
Speaker 10: cows and sheep and pigs and the reds because we've

2126
01:40:34,412 --> 01:40:36,852
Speaker 10: sort of seed it more your dirty farmers. You're going

2127
01:40:36,933 --> 01:40:38,133
Speaker 10: to grow that and you want us to buy it

2128
01:40:38,133 --> 01:40:38,852
Speaker 10: and eat it all.

2129
01:40:39,933 --> 01:40:42,053
Speaker 14: Yeah, we need to do that much.

2130
01:40:42,253 --> 01:40:44,893
Speaker 2: I mean, people are going to eat the meat. And

2131
01:40:44,973 --> 01:40:48,053
Speaker 2: it's much better if it's produced here in overseas. It's better,

2132
01:40:48,173 --> 01:40:50,333
Speaker 2: as I said before, morally, it's better for our economy

2133
01:40:50,812 --> 01:40:55,253
Speaker 2: and it's better flavor. But Dennis, what about my what

2134
01:40:55,293 --> 01:40:57,253
Speaker 2: do you say about my fifty to fifty five degree

2135
01:40:57,253 --> 01:40:58,892
Speaker 2: internal temperature of my I filip?

2136
01:40:59,053 --> 01:40:59,812
Speaker 3: Have I got that right?

2137
01:41:00,572 --> 01:41:03,772
Speaker 10: Yeah? That's that's Yeah, that's not too bad.

2138
01:41:04,093 --> 01:41:06,772
Speaker 3: It's it's sort of medium with kids. They won it.

2139
01:41:06,812 --> 01:41:08,732
Speaker 3: Ever it goes to bloody the kids break out.

2140
01:41:09,692 --> 01:41:11,492
Speaker 10: That's that's the thing. I think there's been a train

2141
01:41:11,532 --> 01:41:12,213
Speaker 10: wreck or something.

2142
01:41:15,452 --> 01:41:17,852
Speaker 4: This is good, Jennis. So the steak on the barbecue

2143
01:41:17,893 --> 01:41:19,253
Speaker 4: needs a bit of marbling and they're a bit of

2144
01:41:19,333 --> 01:41:22,293
Speaker 4: fat in there to get you know, that flavor. What

2145
01:41:22,452 --> 01:41:26,133
Speaker 4: about the old charcoal barbecue? The charcoal barbecue? But I

2146
01:41:26,213 --> 01:41:27,492
Speaker 4: fill it on a charcoal bill, right.

2147
01:41:27,412 --> 01:41:27,732
Speaker 3: Won't it.

2148
01:41:28,372 --> 01:41:32,013
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've got a real preference for charcoal. I prefer it.

2149
01:41:32,133 --> 01:41:34,452
Speaker 10: But let's be honest, it's not always convenient. I mean

2150
01:41:34,893 --> 01:41:37,412
Speaker 10: I've got I get in real trouble with the wife

2151
01:41:37,412 --> 01:41:39,213
Speaker 10: because I'm sitting on the deck at the moment, I've

2152
01:41:39,213 --> 01:41:42,813
Speaker 10: got two wks four barbecues a smoker.

2153
01:41:43,652 --> 01:41:45,772
Speaker 4: Tell me about I love charcole meat, but the last

2154
01:41:45,812 --> 01:41:47,852
Speaker 4: time and he's a good made of mine, love him,

2155
01:41:47,893 --> 01:41:50,333
Speaker 4: love him dearly. But he's really just recently got into

2156
01:41:50,372 --> 01:41:53,173
Speaker 4: his charcoal of meat. And we were sitting there at

2157
01:41:53,253 --> 01:41:55,013
Speaker 4: ten o'clock at night and saying, mate, where's the so

2158
01:41:55,213 --> 01:41:57,293
Speaker 4: I'm hungry, I need some meat, and said it needs

2159
01:41:57,293 --> 01:41:59,053
Speaker 4: another twenty minutes. It just takes too long.

2160
01:41:59,893 --> 01:42:01,892
Speaker 5: Yeah, uber, Yeah, that's.

2161
01:42:01,893 --> 01:42:04,293
Speaker 4: Right, Denni's good to chat mate, Bob.

2162
01:42:04,372 --> 01:42:04,692
Speaker 20: How are you?

2163
01:42:05,452 --> 01:42:06,372
Speaker 28: Yeah, I'm good yep.

2164
01:42:07,213 --> 01:42:09,692
Speaker 4: And oh you want to talk about Aussie potatoes?

2165
01:42:10,933 --> 01:42:12,812
Speaker 28: Well, and then I'll go onto the pork too.

2166
01:42:12,893 --> 01:42:16,492
Speaker 4: Yere on the here now, yep, you're on cool?

2167
01:42:17,053 --> 01:42:18,732
Speaker 28: Yeah I was then I'm an old fellows that on

2168
01:42:18,812 --> 01:42:22,173
Speaker 28: my own lost my wife. But anyway, I'm looking I

2169
01:42:22,372 --> 01:42:24,933
Speaker 28: like my chips. Anyway, I was looking for the I

2170
01:42:25,452 --> 01:42:27,932
Speaker 28: used to buy Cannabarry chips. I think what is didn't

2171
01:42:27,973 --> 01:42:30,933
Speaker 28: you know they were Canterbury chips? Anyway, looking through the

2172
01:42:31,013 --> 01:42:34,012
Speaker 28: supermarket today there were none of them. But I found

2173
01:42:34,093 --> 01:42:39,732
Speaker 28: this proudly made in pardly made from Tezi potatoes, right, gross.

2174
01:42:40,893 --> 01:42:41,692
Speaker 15: I didn't buy them.

2175
01:42:41,732 --> 01:42:44,612
Speaker 28: I found some made in Mada Matter no or something

2176
01:42:44,652 --> 01:42:46,532
Speaker 28: like Mata matter anyway, so I bought them.

2177
01:42:46,652 --> 01:42:51,973
Speaker 2: We don't need to be importing potatoes potatoes, but they

2178
01:42:52,013 --> 01:42:52,612
Speaker 2: obviously are.

2179
01:42:53,093 --> 01:42:55,253
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well that's the thing that's kind of what we're saying.

2180
01:42:55,933 --> 01:42:59,732
Speaker 3: You should check. You should check where with with where food.

2181
01:42:59,612 --> 01:43:03,213
Speaker 2: Is coming from and where you can get it from

2182
01:43:03,253 --> 01:43:04,653
Speaker 2: New Zealand, especially potatoa.

2183
01:43:06,173 --> 01:43:09,012
Speaker 28: Since I rang you, I went chickcause I'm, as I said,

2184
01:43:09,093 --> 01:43:11,973
Speaker 28: guy on my own and I love my pork. And

2185
01:43:12,173 --> 01:43:14,213
Speaker 28: as a motor home I travel the country and we

2186
01:43:14,333 --> 01:43:16,333
Speaker 28: used to go to way Matty and there was a

2187
01:43:16,572 --> 01:43:19,412
Speaker 28: pork farm down there and it was called Happy Pigs.

2188
01:43:19,452 --> 01:43:22,652
Speaker 28: I think they subsequently moved down to Dunedin, but I

2189
01:43:22,812 --> 01:43:26,093
Speaker 28: used to go there and buy their pork. And down

2190
01:43:26,532 --> 01:43:30,892
Speaker 28: the motorhome associated had a park just south or near Roliston,

2191
01:43:31,253 --> 01:43:33,412
Speaker 28: and as we used to go into the going towards

2192
01:43:33,452 --> 01:43:36,892
Speaker 28: the South Island and going towards the west coast through

2193
01:43:37,013 --> 01:43:39,612
Speaker 28: Arthur's Pass, there was this big pig farm and my

2194
01:43:39,732 --> 01:43:42,452
Speaker 28: wife was bloody and freeze with it because all the

2195
01:43:42,532 --> 01:43:45,133
Speaker 28: pigs had their little hutches which they were raising the

2196
01:43:45,213 --> 01:43:48,372
Speaker 28: you know, the sour with their little young piglets running around,

2197
01:43:48,572 --> 01:43:50,372
Speaker 28: and she said, that's the sort of way that we

2198
01:43:50,452 --> 01:43:55,652
Speaker 28: should have our pigs disappearing now. And I just went

2199
01:43:55,732 --> 01:43:59,253
Speaker 28: into my fridge and unfortunately I can't buy a large

2200
01:43:59,293 --> 01:44:01,013
Speaker 28: amount of pork because it will go up before I

2201
01:44:01,053 --> 01:44:03,812
Speaker 28: can eat it, So I buy the little pre packed things.

2202
01:44:04,253 --> 01:44:08,173
Speaker 28: You know, Manuca smoke to what of his where it's

2203
01:44:08,372 --> 01:44:10,972
Speaker 28: I'm from? And you name it. There's not a country

2204
01:44:10,973 --> 01:44:13,932
Speaker 28: in Europe that it is. It's from Canada, says the Brooks.

2205
01:44:13,933 --> 01:44:18,092
Speaker 28: From Canada, Australia, England, France, Germany, Belgium.

2206
01:44:18,612 --> 01:44:20,652
Speaker 4: It's been a busy pig, Is it that that piece

2207
01:44:20,692 --> 01:44:21,012
Speaker 4: of pork?

2208
01:44:21,173 --> 01:44:21,372
Speaker 18: Yeah?

2209
01:44:21,572 --> 01:44:23,173
Speaker 4: I mean that is right though, isn't it. That's the

2210
01:44:23,253 --> 01:44:26,133
Speaker 4: confusing part is a lot of the origin labels. They

2211
01:44:26,253 --> 01:44:28,612
Speaker 4: just say every country under the sun almost and say, well,

2212
01:44:28,612 --> 01:44:29,213
Speaker 4: where is it from?

2213
01:44:29,333 --> 01:44:31,612
Speaker 2: And we're supposed to be boycotting Canada at the moments.

2214
01:44:31,652 --> 01:44:33,093
Speaker 2: We're currently in a trade war with them.

2215
01:44:33,053 --> 01:44:34,893
Speaker 3: So I don't spark that up even more, mate. You

2216
01:44:34,933 --> 01:44:39,333
Speaker 3: know it's true Canada eighty it is twenty one to four.

2217
01:44:41,253 --> 01:44:43,333
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the Boys on eight hundred and

2218
01:44:43,412 --> 01:44:48,333
Speaker 1: eighty Taylor Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four You's

2219
01:44:48,412 --> 01:44:49,093
Speaker 1: talk said, be.

2220
01:44:49,692 --> 01:44:52,452
Speaker 4: Good afternoon to you. It is eighteen to fom we're

2221
01:44:52,532 --> 01:44:55,452
Speaker 4: talking about New Zealand beef versus Ossie beef. This is

2222
01:44:55,532 --> 01:44:58,532
Speaker 4: on the back of almost or over two thousand tons

2223
01:44:58,933 --> 01:45:01,692
Speaker 4: of Ozsie beef being imported into the country between July

2224
01:45:01,812 --> 01:45:04,732
Speaker 4: and September. That's the most beef coming in from offshore

2225
01:45:04,853 --> 01:45:07,933
Speaker 4: since twenty ten. And Matt, you're pretty hot on this

2226
01:45:08,053 --> 01:45:11,612
Speaker 4: that we need to be buying New Zealand made products

2227
01:45:11,652 --> 01:45:15,772
Speaker 4: across the board, but specifically beef, lamb, chicken, pork.

2228
01:45:16,133 --> 01:45:16,333
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2229
01:45:16,652 --> 01:45:17,253
Speaker 3: I just check.

2230
01:45:17,253 --> 01:45:19,812
Speaker 2: I always check and make sure it is especially pork jeez.

2231
01:45:20,372 --> 01:45:23,972
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I don't think I wouldn't buy beef.

2232
01:45:24,893 --> 01:45:26,652
Speaker 2: I definitely wouldn't like not you like you you are

2233
01:45:26,692 --> 01:45:29,973
Speaker 2: all about the Assi potatoes. I definitely wouldn't buy I

2234
01:45:30,053 --> 01:45:33,133
Speaker 2: think all produce. If you can, then you buy a

2235
01:45:33,173 --> 01:45:35,532
Speaker 2: New Zealand made produce because I mean that's what we

2236
01:45:35,652 --> 01:45:36,492
Speaker 2: do in New Zealand.

2237
01:45:36,532 --> 01:45:42,253
Speaker 3: I mean our primary sector is the is the It's

2238
01:45:42,293 --> 01:45:43,293
Speaker 3: the wonder of the world.

2239
01:45:43,652 --> 01:45:45,932
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I made the distinction I'll take a Kiwi

2240
01:45:46,013 --> 01:45:48,053
Speaker 4: spart over an Ossie spart any day of the week.

2241
01:45:48,133 --> 01:45:50,772
Speaker 4: I'm a South Island man. We do good potatoes down

2242
01:45:50,812 --> 01:45:52,372
Speaker 4: on the South Island and on the North Island for

2243
01:45:52,452 --> 01:45:54,532
Speaker 4: that matter. But what I did say is if I

2244
01:45:54,652 --> 01:45:57,853
Speaker 4: presented you with an Assie potato, let's say, a Tasmanian

2245
01:45:57,893 --> 01:46:01,013
Speaker 4: potato and a New Zealand potato, I don't reckon.

2246
01:46:02,173 --> 01:46:05,213
Speaker 2: A potato a new potato that's just been pulled out

2247
01:46:05,253 --> 01:46:08,253
Speaker 2: of my sister's garden at Christmas time in Dunedin.

2248
01:46:08,933 --> 01:46:10,692
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, with into the mix.

2249
01:46:12,173 --> 01:46:14,612
Speaker 3: Well, then I could definitely taste. We're going to do

2250
01:46:14,812 --> 01:46:18,892
Speaker 3: some dudio Tasmanian old butler of a potato that's come

2251
01:46:18,973 --> 01:46:19,812
Speaker 3: over here on a boat.

2252
01:46:21,572 --> 01:46:21,812
Speaker 4: Mate.

2253
01:46:22,893 --> 01:46:25,732
Speaker 14: Here, you guys. Three things. The first thing was that

2254
01:46:25,853 --> 01:46:28,852
Speaker 14: old three minutes ago talking about his wife being those

2255
01:46:28,893 --> 01:46:31,173
Speaker 14: things in the captures outside and everything's looking happy in

2256
01:46:31,173 --> 01:46:34,772
Speaker 14: the world. That's the most overstaffed farm in New Zealand.

2257
01:46:35,213 --> 01:46:39,412
Speaker 14: That's christ your prisons it.

2258
01:46:40,652 --> 01:46:43,333
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's that's that's positive. Something to do.

2259
01:46:45,053 --> 01:46:49,053
Speaker 14: Next week, I said, waited, there's a spuds. One of

2260
01:46:49,093 --> 01:46:51,692
Speaker 14: the biggest blud growers in Australia is actually in New Zealand.

2261
01:46:51,692 --> 01:46:54,173
Speaker 4: Company, who was that was?

2262
01:46:54,213 --> 01:46:54,253
Speaker 13: That?

2263
01:46:54,692 --> 01:46:54,852
Speaker 12: Is that?

2264
01:46:55,452 --> 01:46:57,692
Speaker 4: It's not the billionaire down in South Canterbury. He's a

2265
01:46:57,732 --> 01:47:00,333
Speaker 4: potato farmer. There was a piece done about him recently.

2266
01:47:00,572 --> 01:47:03,812
Speaker 3: Yeah that guy. Yeah, he's a billionaire.

2267
01:47:03,812 --> 01:47:04,652
Speaker 4: Have you about this guy?

2268
01:47:04,853 --> 01:47:05,333
Speaker 15: No, I have not.

2269
01:47:05,612 --> 01:47:07,692
Speaker 4: And when I say billionaire, that's his property. You know,

2270
01:47:07,893 --> 01:47:09,652
Speaker 4: he owns a lot of land down in South Canterbury.

2271
01:47:09,732 --> 01:47:12,892
Speaker 4: But tried and true potato farmer keep kept digging up

2272
01:47:12,893 --> 01:47:15,013
Speaker 4: the potatoes himself. Obviously he's got a big team, but

2273
01:47:15,053 --> 01:47:16,652
Speaker 4: he was still there on the tractor in the age

2274
01:47:16,652 --> 01:47:18,973
Speaker 4: of what eighty nine legend and it just.

2275
01:47:18,973 --> 01:47:20,812
Speaker 14: Passed about three months ago, four months ago.

2276
01:47:21,253 --> 01:47:23,093
Speaker 2: Well that makes it kind of complicated. So if so,

2277
01:47:23,692 --> 01:47:26,972
Speaker 2: the potatoes have been growing over in Australia, but their

2278
01:47:27,013 --> 01:47:29,133
Speaker 2: profits in New Zealand, I mean, I think I feel

2279
01:47:29,173 --> 01:47:29,652
Speaker 2: better about that.

2280
01:47:29,893 --> 01:47:33,213
Speaker 3: They just importing an Australian potato.

2281
01:47:33,652 --> 01:47:36,572
Speaker 14: And where his family for about forty years and we've

2282
01:47:36,652 --> 01:47:41,053
Speaker 14: never made any money out of upon red meat. Well

2283
01:47:41,093 --> 01:47:43,213
Speaker 14: of you guys were talking earlier on about maybe we

2284
01:47:43,253 --> 01:47:45,772
Speaker 14: should be looking down in the cooperative way, you know,

2285
01:47:45,973 --> 01:47:46,653
Speaker 14: like Fontira.

2286
01:47:47,973 --> 01:47:48,652
Speaker 5: Yeah, that.

2287
01:47:50,532 --> 01:47:53,013
Speaker 14: Was to ask the people in tim Roos who have

2288
01:47:53,053 --> 01:47:55,572
Speaker 14: six under them, just lost their jobs. Yeah, one of

2289
01:47:55,572 --> 01:47:57,933
Speaker 14: the biggest co opperatives of New Zealand which was allowed.

2290
01:47:57,692 --> 01:47:58,253
Speaker 6: To meet company.

2291
01:47:58,492 --> 01:47:59,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, very true.

2292
01:48:01,372 --> 01:48:06,053
Speaker 14: But we've always been at the In the sixteen the

2293
01:48:06,133 --> 01:48:09,812
Speaker 14: early Simblies isided really well the UK, the u K

2294
01:48:10,133 --> 01:48:13,852
Speaker 14: joined the eu C and they became EU and we

2295
01:48:14,053 --> 01:48:17,572
Speaker 14: lost we lost their chances. Then well since then we've

2296
01:48:17,612 --> 01:48:22,133
Speaker 14: been price takers, not price letters. So as far as

2297
01:48:22,173 --> 01:48:26,013
Speaker 14: we just take what you know, the meat supplies, you know,

2298
01:48:26,133 --> 01:48:27,972
Speaker 14: the sort of arms of the alliance, and all these

2299
01:48:28,133 --> 01:48:31,333
Speaker 14: people take because what else can you do? You know,

2300
01:48:31,853 --> 01:48:38,013
Speaker 14: they look nobody else's and and and I agree with

2301
01:48:38,093 --> 01:48:42,772
Speaker 14: the guys. Buzzy pork ouzzy beef is bloody awful unless

2302
01:48:42,812 --> 01:48:47,933
Speaker 14: you get some of the stuff that comes out of Uhia,

2303
01:48:48,093 --> 01:48:49,933
Speaker 14: which is not bad but.

2304
01:48:51,412 --> 01:48:53,213
Speaker 3: Is just crapped some of the best.

2305
01:48:53,572 --> 01:48:55,612
Speaker 2: There are some quite good beef being made in Australia,

2306
01:48:55,652 --> 01:48:57,572
Speaker 2: but it's been made by a guy born born in

2307
01:48:57,612 --> 01:49:02,412
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Russell Crowe is very actually Russell Crows has

2308
01:49:02,532 --> 01:49:05,492
Speaker 2: grind some very very high quality beef at the moment,

2309
01:49:05,612 --> 01:49:07,532
Speaker 2: so he's taken some using the expertise over there.

2310
01:49:08,893 --> 01:49:11,732
Speaker 14: Got a few wags do with your Japanese breed. The

2311
01:49:12,053 --> 01:49:15,253
Speaker 14: other thing I was going to say is that my

2312
01:49:15,452 --> 01:49:18,692
Speaker 14: complaint with my wife last night. We don't have pigs anymore. So,

2313
01:49:18,933 --> 01:49:23,093
Speaker 14: as you know, said the pork, it was the most

2314
01:49:23,173 --> 01:49:26,532
Speaker 14: horrible league of pork I've ever seen, I think it was,

2315
01:49:27,253 --> 01:49:30,093
Speaker 14: and it just had no cast in it whatsoever. Yeah,

2316
01:49:31,093 --> 01:49:34,452
Speaker 14: but you know the chi was talking about this poor

2317
01:49:34,492 --> 01:49:38,492
Speaker 14: pick farms around an Eden and a reasonably big way,

2318
01:49:38,893 --> 01:49:41,612
Speaker 14: but they just couldn't compete a lot of Danish pork,

2319
01:49:42,572 --> 01:49:43,812
Speaker 14: a lot of Canadian pork.

2320
01:49:44,612 --> 01:49:48,892
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough at Christmas time, isn't it. Well, because

2321
01:49:48,893 --> 01:49:51,093
Speaker 4: a lot of people want to go for the Kiwi Hams, right,

2322
01:49:51,213 --> 01:49:54,333
Speaker 4: the Kiwi born and bred pork Hams. But they are

2323
01:49:54,372 --> 01:49:56,572
Speaker 4: pretty tough to get. I mean you would always go

2324
01:49:56,853 --> 01:49:58,452
Speaker 4: with you'd go to your local butcher and say I

2325
01:49:58,572 --> 01:50:00,053
Speaker 4: want I want to be on the list for the

2326
01:50:00,133 --> 01:50:01,892
Speaker 4: New Zealand hands for Christmas time.

2327
01:50:02,293 --> 01:50:04,452
Speaker 2: Well, what i'd say is Tylers, I'd say I'd want

2328
01:50:04,452 --> 01:50:07,693
Speaker 2: a mutton Ham, please, a mutton Ham, A mutton hand.

2329
01:50:08,492 --> 01:50:10,253
Speaker 3: From down south. We'll know what I'm talking about. A

2330
01:50:10,333 --> 01:50:15,492
Speaker 3: mutton Ham is a great option. Good more, Actually, hold

2331
01:50:15,532 --> 01:50:17,772
Speaker 3: that thought. I wanted to hear more about this much,

2332
01:50:17,812 --> 01:50:19,852
Speaker 3: the arising of people that support me.

2333
01:50:20,053 --> 01:50:23,173
Speaker 2: When when I say a mutton ham is a good time, Kevin,

2334
01:50:23,213 --> 01:50:24,253
Speaker 2: do you know what he's talking about?

2335
01:50:25,893 --> 01:50:26,053
Speaker 17: Uh?

2336
01:50:27,893 --> 01:50:28,972
Speaker 21: Come from the North Island.

2337
01:50:29,893 --> 01:50:30,892
Speaker 3: You never heard of a mutton hair.

2338
01:50:31,973 --> 01:50:34,133
Speaker 21: I live in the Southland and I grew up with

2339
01:50:34,293 --> 01:50:36,852
Speaker 21: mutton on my father's family the North Island, so they're

2340
01:50:36,893 --> 01:50:37,572
Speaker 21: not muttoners.

2341
01:50:37,692 --> 01:50:37,852
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2342
01:50:37,893 --> 01:50:39,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, well a mutton ham is a good time. I'm

2343
01:50:40,133 --> 01:50:45,852
Speaker 3: right now hand for Christmas. Yeah, good man. Now you

2344
01:50:46,452 --> 01:50:47,372
Speaker 3: do you aunt and pie?

2345
01:50:47,572 --> 01:50:48,093
Speaker 4: Mutton pie?

2346
01:50:48,133 --> 01:50:48,852
Speaker 3: Love a mutton pie.

2347
01:50:48,893 --> 01:50:51,333
Speaker 4: Do you run a butcher's shop yourself or you always

2348
01:50:51,372 --> 01:50:55,732
Speaker 4: go to butcher's rather than supermarkets myself? Yeah?

2349
01:50:56,853 --> 01:50:58,612
Speaker 21: No, no, where where's the home call?

2350
01:50:59,013 --> 01:50:59,213
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2351
01:51:00,293 --> 01:51:03,173
Speaker 21: We we had a home call for about thirty.

2352
01:51:02,973 --> 01:51:07,892
Speaker 4: Years and you just supplied yourself, was it? Or family

2353
01:51:07,973 --> 01:51:08,333
Speaker 4: and friends?

2354
01:51:10,173 --> 01:51:14,012
Speaker 21: Family, you know the my brother and sister of laws

2355
01:51:14,013 --> 01:51:16,253
Speaker 21: and stuff, and we all we all going for each other.

2356
01:51:16,333 --> 01:51:17,612
Speaker 21: We all had a home KOLs going.

2357
01:51:17,772 --> 01:51:22,213
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, interesting and well so obviously you you're right

2358
01:51:22,293 --> 01:51:25,813
Speaker 4: behind just eating kiwied beef because your head it yourself.

2359
01:51:25,612 --> 01:51:26,692
Speaker 3: Very locally sourced if you.

2360
01:51:26,772 --> 01:51:29,812
Speaker 21: Kill it at home, oh definitely, yes, yes, yeah.

2361
01:51:29,853 --> 01:51:34,372
Speaker 4: Interesting and you don't do it anymore, Keiven, you don't

2362
01:51:34,412 --> 01:51:34,972
Speaker 4: do it anymore.

2363
01:51:36,333 --> 01:51:38,652
Speaker 21: No, no, no, I'm looking at them. I'm loving a

2364
01:51:38,772 --> 01:51:40,892
Speaker 21: Wakefield yet on a roofto and Whitfield.

2365
01:51:41,333 --> 01:51:44,812
Speaker 4: It's a good place, Wakefield. I love Wakefield. I'm a Nelsonian, Sharon.

2366
01:51:44,893 --> 01:51:45,253
Speaker 4: How are you?

2367
01:51:46,293 --> 01:51:51,013
Speaker 29: Oh, good afternoon. I'm talking about the important things in life. Potatoes.

2368
01:51:51,772 --> 01:51:55,412
Speaker 29: They must have been important, those Australian ones recent, well

2369
01:51:55,492 --> 01:51:58,692
Speaker 29: for wee while now, because for forty five years I've

2370
01:51:58,732 --> 01:52:02,652
Speaker 29: had the occasional you know, we like French fries or

2371
01:52:02,732 --> 01:52:06,452
Speaker 29: chips to we made homemade ones. And the potatoes, even

2372
01:52:06,532 --> 01:52:08,572
Speaker 29: the angrier ones, they're just discussed thing.

2373
01:52:08,973 --> 01:52:09,333
Speaker 26: I said.

2374
01:52:09,492 --> 01:52:13,452
Speaker 29: They make the chips all limped and I'm crusty awful.

2375
01:52:14,013 --> 01:52:15,133
Speaker 26: Don't know what they're doing for them.

2376
01:52:15,253 --> 01:52:17,732
Speaker 29: Yeah, oh yeah, I've tried every way. I've tried buying

2377
01:52:17,772 --> 01:52:20,692
Speaker 29: them blues from the you know, fruit and vegetable shops.

2378
01:52:20,853 --> 01:52:23,652
Speaker 29: I've tried, you know, buying ones that are saying there's.

2379
01:52:23,572 --> 01:52:27,412
Speaker 21: Four chips, and no they're not. There's very really anything

2380
01:52:27,492 --> 01:52:28,253
Speaker 21: that's worth while.

2381
01:52:28,293 --> 01:52:29,333
Speaker 29: I don't know what they do to them.

2382
01:52:29,612 --> 01:52:31,253
Speaker 21: Maybe they picked the earth.

2383
01:52:31,812 --> 01:52:33,893
Speaker 2: Maybe if it's a bad laugh, because I had I

2384
01:52:34,133 --> 01:52:35,932
Speaker 2: had a fantastic tailor last night.

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Speaker 4: I tell you, keep digging on this one chair, and

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Speaker 4: I think you've uncovered something here.

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Speaker 3: Keeping keep digging on those potatoes, keep digging for those and.

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Speaker 29: The mushin ham is a leg of mushroom cured like

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Speaker 29: a ham.

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Speaker 27: If you know what it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what it is, and and I love

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Speaker 3: it and I'm a big fan of it. I prefer

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Speaker 3: it over over a ham ham. What do you call

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Speaker 3: it again?

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Speaker 4: All right, Christmas in the South sounds like a good time.

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Speaker 4: Right after the break, we're going to have a chance

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Speaker 4: to chatting. Hang Gum. He is beef and lamb ambassador

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Speaker 4: and a chef. There is going to be an interesting chats.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the bottom of whether Sarah Oma was

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Speaker 2: a track cyclist or a b mixer or Sarah Walker

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Speaker 2: or which way around it was, because I got that

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Speaker 2: wrong before and it fired up the text machine to tell.

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Speaker 4: You right it is ten minutes to four.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four US talk said.

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Speaker 3: Be seven and four.

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Speaker 2: A lot of love coming in through Muttenham after after

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Speaker 2: I said it was better than pig Ham Muttenham all

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Speaker 2: the way.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right on the phone right now is Cheat and Penguorm.

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Speaker 4: He is New Zealand Beef and Lamb Ambassador and he'd

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Speaker 4: chef at one eighty restaurant in Wellington Cheaton.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 2: What do you say to people that say that you

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Speaker 2: shouldn't cock an eye filler on a barbecue because it

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Speaker 2: doesn't have.

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Speaker 3: Enough fat on it.

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Speaker 26: I was actually listening into that conversation, and yeah, like

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Speaker 26: I said, I don't want to be sort of I

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Speaker 26: don't want to say not do anyone. They're welcome to

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Speaker 26: cook as long as it's music. In Beef and Lamb,

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Speaker 26: you can cook anything on the barbecue.

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Speaker 4: Answer now, for you, what is the big difference between

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Speaker 4: New Zealand Beef and lamb versus overseas beef and Lamb?

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Speaker 26: For you, I guess the New Zealand Beef and Lamb,

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Speaker 26: the New Zealand grassed beef and Lamb, I guess, is

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Speaker 26: considered one of the best in the world. And it's

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Speaker 26: once you sort of I guess have it is. It's

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Speaker 26: very hard to go back to something else, especially anything

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Speaker 26: that grain finished or grain fed. The texture, the flavor

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Speaker 26: profile is sort of very very different. The meat is

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Speaker 26: a lot more leaner, less saturated fat, eye levels of

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Speaker 26: Omega three fatty acids, great levels of vitamin's, water soluble vitamins.

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Speaker 26: So there's so many good things about it, but I

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Speaker 26: guess to put it in short, it's the flavor profile

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Speaker 26: and the mouthfeel that is very very different. And over

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Speaker 26: the years I've tried a bit of beef and lamb

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Speaker 26: and and I've had everything everything up in North America, Australian,

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Speaker 26: Japanese stuff, and nothing can be New Zealand beef and lamb.

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Speaker 3: You're a good what's what's what do you think? You know,

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Speaker 3: in your opinion is the best cut of beef?

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Speaker 2: Again, very very subjective as an expert.

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Speaker 26: For me, something with a bit of fat is really

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Speaker 26: really good fat as flavor. But then again, ultimately it's

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Speaker 26: about how you cook it. Like you know, you could

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Speaker 26: you could use a beautiful piece of like my current

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Speaker 26: sort of favorite is sort of a Scotch filet, really

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Speaker 26: really nice, but I love the secondary cuts like I

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Speaker 26: use and have used in the past.

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Speaker 24: Beef cheek.

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Speaker 26: It just really depends on what time of the year

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Speaker 26: we're in. What are some of the applications that we

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Speaker 26: could do with it with that particular cut of meat

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Speaker 26: at that time? And yeah, so for me everything is amazing.

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Speaker 26: It's how you treat it and what purpose it is

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Speaker 26: going to sell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very good. Nice to check. That is cheat and Pengum.

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Speaker 4: He is New Zealand Beef and Lamb ambassador. He'd chef

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Speaker 4: at one eighty restaurant in Wellington. That is asked for today,

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling more patriotic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Whatever you do, buy New zeal And produce.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we will see you tomorrow. Have a great risk

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Speaker 4: of your night.

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