1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: You're Trusted Home the News for Entertainment's Opinion and Mike 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural news. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Togs headb Morning and welcome today. More good news for 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: the economy this time hung Key, we fruit the Finance 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Minister on our social investment plans. Turns out Pete petrol 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 2: is not next year, it's years away. Stacey Jones on 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: the League timicated to the Wick, Mitch McCann's and the 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: State's Wust Murray Olds Out of Australia Pasky Friday morning, 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: seven past six. So if you're looking for cogent arguments 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: then there was no shortage of them from the banks 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: this week in front of the Parliamentary Committee looking into 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: banking Now. They're doing this because the government's decided banks 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: need some kind of reform. There is not enough competition 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: apparently what they plan to do about it, we don't know, 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: but it's the same argument around Telco's petrol supermarket's airlines. 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Are particular concern to the government is the way the 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: farmers are being treated now. There is dispute within the 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: banking community Kiwibank, Heartland SBSTBS. Also, it's not fair, The 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: regulation's troublesome. The playing field is not flat. The bigger 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: players say things are fine. Of course they would say that, 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't they. But between them, and if you want to 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: add the non bank lenders, there seem to me to 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: be no shortage of options for the farmer to deal 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: with banks. The defense is that farm lending is tough work, 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: and as tough work because lending money to farmers carries risk. 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: Returns from rural lending isn't as high as city lending. 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: The complain about farmers having higher rates is because a 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: lot of farms operate on flexible rates, not fixed rates. 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: All the banks talked to their market share. No one 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: bank dominates. A number of banks have grown their books. 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: None of this is to defend the banks at the 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: expense of the farmer. It is just to say there 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: doesn't appear to be one side overtly more right than 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: the other. The A and Z boss this week more 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: broadly defended her bank's profits. She was on a hiding 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: to nothing. Of course, she too has cogent arguments made sense. 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: Put up a good explanation as to how banks work 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: and what sort of return they need. It will make 40 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: no difference, which is the problem. It's the big problem 41 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: where you are. In this case, the government have with 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: me big business. There must be a lack of competition. Profits, 43 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: the argument goes, are too high, without of course anyone 44 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: to finding what exactly is an acceptable profit. So we 45 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: will need rules and threats and the Commerce Commission. But 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this for nothing. None of it's going 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: to change because my very broad conclusion from all of 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: these industries is we have an imperfect market based partially 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: but in no small part, on the fact we're a tiny, 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: isolated country at the bottom of the world with five 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: million people. We think we should do or get better 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: than we do, and by being hoodwind into that sort 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: of thinking, someone must be a robber baron. They aren't, 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: but it makes us feel better. 55 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds. 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: I wanted to see in Nntown Hall of Calmly yesterday. 57 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: I hope you didn't, because it's time you'll never get back, 58 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: and it shows you why she's losing. 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 3: Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes? I do, Yes, 60 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: I do. 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: Donald Trump said, why ess actually, why aren't my generals 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: like those of Hitler. 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Do you believe Donan Trump is anti Semitic? 64 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: I believe Donald Trump is a danger. 65 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: As the BBC pointed out, how did she go from 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: joy to that? Anyway? You know what Trump thought? 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 5: These people are crude, rude and vicious. 68 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 6: She's got no intelligence, She's got nothing, She's got nothing. 69 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: Meantime, the Bricks meetings wrapping up, and perhaps surprisingly one 70 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: of the atends turns out to be a mister a good. 71 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: Terrorists of New York. 72 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 7: We need Pias in Gaza with an immediate ceas fires. 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 7: We need piecing Lebanon with an immediate cessation of hostilities. 74 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 8: We need peace in Ukraine just piece in line. 75 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 7: With you and Charter. We need to peace in Suran. 76 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: But apart from that, everything's going fine. And Britain Chancellor 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves has her budget this coming Wednesday. She's clean 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: been on the phone to Grant robertson. 79 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 9: The first the stability rule that day to day spending 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 9: will be funded through taxa seats. That's something the previous 81 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 9: government never achieved. The second rule will be the investment rule, 82 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 9: which would be to get debt down as a share 83 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 9: of GDP. 84 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: But that's not the crush of it. I'll come back 85 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: to that. The lit By case seems to have no end. 86 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: The baby killers appealed and lost. Whether there are or 87 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: maybe issues arising from the first charm which have yet 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: to be the subject of judicial consideration, is not for 89 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: us to say. That would be speculative and from the 90 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: well of forecasters. More doom this morning, as we're all 91 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: going to fry. 92 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 10: The countries that are still growing their emissions, like China, 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 10: Saudi Arabia, India, Indonesia, Vietnam are doing so much faster 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 10: than countries like our own, and other developed countries are 95 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 10: seeing their emissions peak and begin to very slowly fall. 96 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: Finally, South Korea has an issue with what they call 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: good OSCA, or lonely deaths. Thousands, mostly men, die every 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: year and their bodies aren't found for a week. So 99 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: the government has announced they will spend over half a 100 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: billion in the next five years to turn Soul into 101 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: a city where no one is lonely now. The money 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: will be spent on twenty four to seven hotlines, online 103 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: platform staff or in person visits for those who say 104 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: they're lonely. Green Space's meal plans for the middle aged 105 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: and the elderly, the New City Search Team and activities 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: such as book clubs and Garding Calanders News the world 107 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: in ninety seconds. Bank of Canada, Real News, This morning's 108 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau is in serious trouble. But I'll come back 109 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: to that. But the Bank of Canada's gone fifty points. 110 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: They're down to three point seventy five on the cash rape. 111 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: It is twelve past six. 112 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 113 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 114 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: Ev Unbelievably, these idiots at Boeing, with their thirty five 115 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: percent pay rise, have voted to reject it. Thirty five percent, 116 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars ratification bonus increased four to oh one case. 117 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: They've already announced their laying seventeen thousand of them off. 118 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: The thing's been going for weeks. They have a vote 119 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: and they say no, thank you. Fifteen past six, sixteen 120 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: thousand cyber trucks. Seems like it's all of cyber The 121 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: result generally is pretty good, wasn't it. Yeah, that was 122 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: pretty good. 123 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 11: So the cyber trucks actually now the third best selling 124 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 11: vehicle in the US by and the Model three Model 125 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 11: WI and it's profitables that's good news. 126 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, the shares had an absolute. 127 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 11: Stormer overnight mike up eighteen percent. It was the best 128 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 11: day in three years. So they actually missed in terms 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 11: of topline revenues, but beat on bottom line and more importantly, 130 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 11: gave a really strong growth forecast. What Eland did. Revenue 131 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 11: is up eight percent in the quarter of twenty five 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 11: point two billion, then then come up seventeen percent to 133 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 11: two point two billion to be fair though, Yeah, regulatory 134 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 11: or emission revenue, it was a big part of it. 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 11: That was seven forty millions. That's where it earns it 136 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 11: from up. Automatic makers are own as environmentally friendly, so 137 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 11: you look at auto revenues that actually only grew two 138 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 11: percent twenty billion for sixty three thousand deliveries. It's been 139 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 11: pretty flat since late twenty twenty two. Obviously, there's a 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 11: lot of competitions, so you've got growth coming from energy generation, 141 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 11: storage revenue and warranty repairs of tars of vehicles. Even so, 142 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 11: the growth outlook was very encouraging, so he muskra cans 143 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 11: will be twenty to thirty percent growth in vehicle delivery 144 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 11: next year due to lower cost vehicles, which is confident 145 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 11: of delivering that model in twenty twenty five and the 146 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 11: event of autonomy, the market had expected deliveries to rise 147 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 11: fifteen percent around two millions. It's double that and that's 148 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 11: really what god investors excited on the self driving robotechs. 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 11: He reckons there'll be two million of cyber caves a 150 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 11: year eventually with the wait and see. He's not known 151 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 11: for sticking to his time frames, but hey, more potential 152 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 11: good news for investors as well, Mike, he promised sharholds 153 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 11: he would make Tessa the most valuable company in the world. 154 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 11: A bit of a way to go at this point, 155 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 11: it's about two point seven trillion dollars behind Apple. 156 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: But when did the facts get in the way? Up 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: a good story? Now ups? What did they have to say? 158 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 11: Hey, there are some good numbers as well. So she 159 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 11: is up nearly five percent. First quarterly sales and earnings 160 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 11: grow for nearly two years past. Industry has been under 161 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 11: pressure since those pandemics obviously had cost of living pressures, 162 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 11: people switching and customers switching to cheaper options. But yeah, 163 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 11: I've seen this pick up, and it's also probably to 164 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 11: do with the economy turning a corner. Inflation ees and conference. 165 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 11: It's improving. Volumes rose six and a half percent. Air 166 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 11: cargo did well. Also, it's getting a helping hand from 167 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 11: Timu and those sort of discount as they're using its 168 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 11: network and utilizing its cheapy shore post option. Revenue of 169 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 11: the quarter that exceeded in the expectations two two point 170 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 11: two billion, they said at ninety one point one billion 171 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 11: in the in the in the full year, you talk 172 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 11: about Boeing and ways. So UPS has also seen wage 173 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 11: costs rise, but it's looking to show up the bottom 174 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 11: line by actually cutting staff some twelve thousand management jobs, 175 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 11: so they'll say about a billion. They didn't come up 176 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 11: thirty five percent one point five billion. Good sign around 177 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 11: the consume. Mic fedix she is also high. Also good 178 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 11: news for American airlines. They raise their profit forecast. Now 179 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 11: they've been trying to sell direct to customers and that's 180 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 11: been an absolute disaster, so they've had to go back 181 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 11: to the tried and true travel agent model that's proven successful. 182 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 11: Revenue at one point two percent thirteen point seven billion, 183 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 11: a loss of one four nine million, and just to 184 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 11: give you an idea of how costly it's been, Delta 185 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 11: and United made almost a billion dollars this quarter, she 186 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 11: is slightly lower. 187 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: Well, what do we make of what Adrian said? And 188 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: I like to comments, interestingly enough about whether the market's 189 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: going at the moment. It's a little bit specular. But 190 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: the seventy five point cut, what do you reckon? 191 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, I reckon it's getting a little bit closer. So 192 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 11: he didn't give too much away there. But look, he 193 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 11: said inflation was effectively beaten. It was a good news. 194 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: He kept. 195 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 11: He used a seafarer's analogy all the way through. One 196 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 11: of his speeches said Montrey policy was akin to ocean circumnavigation. 197 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 11: It's good to see acknowledge that New Zeanders had not 198 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 11: had a fun ride. That's a bit of an understatement, 199 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 11: he said. Did say it was important to avoid a 200 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 11: downturn or an inflationy spiral and to stay afloat. But 201 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 11: I think one could argue Mike looking at some of 202 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 11: the data where many parts of the economy already submerged. 203 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 11: So he said, the key question is how long it 204 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 11: takes for inflation pressures to disiplate completely. To talk about 205 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 11: overpriced stock market, so I thought that was interesting. He 206 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 11: did so also talk about the rise of protectionism and 207 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 11: how that could be bad for New Zealand with trying 208 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 11: to our largest customer. But look in terms of where 209 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 11: rates are going, he said it was credible to have 210 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 11: the perspective of rates becoming less restrictive. Or I said 211 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 11: that was a recent phenomenon. Asked whether I thought this 212 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 11: was interesting, Asked whether the point five percent rate cut 213 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 11: was a jumbo move, he said it was actually relative 214 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 11: to where you are. Of course, the apenz was pretty aggressive, 215 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 11: wasn't there? So he said there's more rate cuts ahead. 216 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 11: He acknowledged that. And this is the other point. I 217 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 11: acknowledge that Munchi Possey operates for one to two year 218 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 11: leg The neutral rate is becoming more appropriate all the 219 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 11: aben Z says this is three point eight percent. We're 220 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 11: almost a one percent above that now. So he using 221 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 11: his analogy, might you know, we're in stormy waters already, 222 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 11: so they shouldn't it be all hands on deck point 223 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 11: seventy five percent rate cat next time? 224 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: Yes, you're the man for point seventy five. I see you, 225 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: I hear you. We should point out that Adrian was 226 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: doing all this in Washington. Of course, one are the numbers. 227 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 11: There, so step back that was weighed by ib IBM 228 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 11: actually but down half percent four two three one four 229 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 11: s and P five hundred up point one percent. There's 230 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 11: Deck up point five percent, foot Sea up point one percent. 231 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 11: Barclays had a good day on their results, Nickey at 232 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 11: point one percent, six two hundred down point one percent, 233 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 11: INSIDEX fifty up point two percent, twelve eighty one four 234 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 11: in fort all that hit an all time high. Good 235 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 11: news there going up adding bucks two seven three three 236 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 11: and outs oil down seventy seven cent seventy dollars even 237 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 11: per barrel currencies were even against the US sixty point 238 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 11: zero a dollar ninety point six slightly up and stealing 239 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 11: forty six point four down point two percent. 240 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, you have a good weekend. Catch 241 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: up next week. Preciate it very much. Greg Smith, Devon 242 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: Funds Management, Pasky k Heinex. You probably never heard of them, 243 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. The only point is they too, are 244 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: into AI. Their operating profit just for one quarter third 245 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: quarter was nine billion dollars. Their South Korean they make chips. 246 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: They're a big customer of Nvidia, and the rest is 247 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 2: asas history six twenty one here at news talk SETB as. 248 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: Well as you come gird or make the Vike Asking 249 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at. 250 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: B Wait till Starlink gets its gear into every mobile, 251 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: it'll be a trillion dollar company. Ben, I'm a customer 252 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: of Starlink. I think Starlink's brilliant. What he does with 253 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: rockets I think is brilliant as well. It's the cars 254 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: that have always bring the problem. But I think what 255 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: he might find with starlink is the same problem he 256 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: found with cars. When he had the idea with cars, 257 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: he was ahead of the curve. He just didn't execute. Hence, 258 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: he's never really been what he should have been in cars, 259 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: and it may well be the same with Starlink once 260 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: the competition comes to down. Anyway, be that as made. 261 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves, by the way, just quickly the reference I 262 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: made earlier. She's literally been on the phone of Grant Robinson. 263 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: It seems like labour parties all over the world do 264 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: the same thing. She has confirmed she intends to change 265 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: the country's fiscal rules for the budget, so that's designed 266 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: to free up billions of pounds. She will tweak the 267 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: way the UK debt is measured. Now, where have you 268 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: heard that particular trick before six twenty five. 269 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: Trending now with them as well and Your Home of 270 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Sports and Nutritia. 271 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: Two new polls in the US ray shortly. But one 272 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: of the talking points around this all is it's no 273 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: longer about policy, of course, it's just about baking each 274 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: other in personal attacks. So Crewe, for one of the 275 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: late night television shows, went to a political rally. Here's 276 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: what they captured. 277 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 8: Do you think American should ban fracking? 278 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: No? 279 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: You don't. 280 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 8: Do you feel strongly about fracking? 281 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 282 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 8: Not to drill this point home, But people that are 283 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 8: involved in fracking, what are they doing? 284 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 285 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 8: Do you think Trump er Harris would be better for 286 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 8: the GDP? 287 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: Well, Trump's going to be better at anything than her. 288 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 8: She can't even speak in terms of the GDP. Do 289 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 8: you think she has an understanding of what it is? 290 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,479 Speaker 8: Do you think she could even define it? 291 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: Probably not. 292 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 8: Can you do you believe the deep state needs to 293 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 8: be stopped? 294 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: Deep state? Yeah? But how do you do it? Who knows? 295 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 8: What is the deep state? 296 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: A good question? Do you know what? I don't know. 297 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 3: I've never met him yet. They're real secret into some bitches. 298 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 8: Do you think we should ban a dei? 299 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: I think so. 300 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 8: For people that don't understand what is. 301 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 12: Dei, well they need to really dig in and find 302 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 12: out what it is. Everybody knows everybody's hamburgers, but nobody 303 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 12: knows where the meat is coming from. 304 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: So find out what you eat. 305 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 8: It's caps and that's what the DEI is exactly exact. 306 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: Oh, you can't make this stuff up. The Harris thing 307 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: will come back to because I did watch it yesterday. 308 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: It was if you ever want, and honestly, I come 309 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: to this completely and partially I couldn't care less who wins. 310 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: It's an interesting race. Observing from the other side of 311 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: the world's fascinating. But she is useless. 312 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 7: Well, why doesn't she do any homework before these things? 313 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 7: It's like she's completely unprepared for all the questions. 314 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: I don't know that she's unprepared. I just know that 315 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: she doesn't appear to be able to articulate what she 316 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: wants to say, or she doesn't know what she wants 317 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: to say. 318 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 7: He asked her if she thinks Trump is a dictator, 319 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 7: and then her response is like she's never even concerned 320 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 7: exactly before. 321 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: And I felt sorry for the guy. Guys stood up 322 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: and said, price of groceries is really high? What are 323 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: you going to do about it? That's all he asked, 324 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: What are you going to do about? Eighteen minutes later, 325 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: we didn't. We weren't any wiser. 326 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: Now. 327 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: This is why during that particular event, the Wallstreet Journal 328 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: poll came out forty seven forty five to trump. The 329 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: CNBC poll out this morning forty eight forty six to trump. 330 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: More with me shortly, the newsmakers and the personalities the 331 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: big names talk to, like the Costing, Breakfast with A, Veda, 332 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way, news talk said, be. 333 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: All difference Canada. A moment ago, Trudeau's got real trouble. 334 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: It may come to nothing because he's got a caucus, 335 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: as they say, at the moment of one hundred and 336 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: sixty something, I can't remember it in about twenty of 337 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: them aren't happy anyway. So he's been given an ultimatum 338 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: and a closed door meeting, and he's got to decide 339 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: by early next week if he wants to stay on 340 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: as leader or face the prospects of a revolt. There 341 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: are twenty MP's behind. There's none of them cabinet members 342 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: they've called on him to quit. A couple of dozen 343 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: also signed a letter. Got to make his decision by 344 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: next Tuesday. Sorry, one hundred and fifty three Liberal members 345 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: of Parliament, so he's got one hundred and fifty three. 346 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: About twenty aren't happy. So it may or may not 347 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: come to anything. But he's in his ninth year. He's 348 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: fantastically unpopular. CBC poll track has got the Conservatives the 349 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: opposition to do ound the world currently with the twenty 350 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: point lead. So we'll see what happens over the weekend 351 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: twenty three to seven. 352 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: When the jam's doing the. 353 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: Business from the States this morning, all the poles, all 354 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: the action from the campaign trail. Meantime back here, more 355 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: good news for our economy. Been a record season as 356 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: it turns out for Kiwi fruit. Not quite over, but 357 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: it's coming to an end. One hundred and ninety million trays, 358 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: six hundred and eighty four thousand tons have been exported 359 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: to fifty different markets. Final shipments of the green and 360 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: the sun Gold they're off in the coming weeks now. 361 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: The CEO, Jason Debraca, is well, this Jason, very good 362 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: morning to you. 363 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 13: Monnie White, how are you very well? 364 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: Indeed you're new to this particular job. You're loving it, Yeah, 365 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: I am. 366 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 13: Actually it's going well in the season's tracking pretty well 367 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 13: as well, so about three months into the role, but 368 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 13: being more excessed through about four years. 369 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: Fantastic sixty two charter vessels tell me the shipping story, 370 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: how successful, how unincumbered are we shipping wise these days. 371 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 13: So we've got a pretty strong charter program. So we 372 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 13: do about half of our fruit on charter vessels, and 373 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 13: it actually helps us get fruit to the market quickly, 374 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 13: helps us reliability to supply and actually our customers get 375 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 13: us through strong feedback. It's one of our main points 376 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 13: of difference. 377 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: Good so we don't have supply chain issues. As they say, they've. 378 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 13: Resolved themselves quite a lot from a couple of years ago. 379 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 13: Still some challenges around some of the sports here, but 380 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 13: that's most to do with the line of vessels coming. 381 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: In China up forty percent. Are they back? 382 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 13: China's economy is still a little bit sluggish. What we've 383 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 13: found is we've been able to outperform the category and 384 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 13: outperform the economy quite well. Just good strong brand and 385 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 13: good quality fruit into the market and good demands for 386 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 13: Kiwi fruit. 387 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Okay, the big important question now is the zig. Yes, 388 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: the vote. You're going to have a vote, and you've 389 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: had a vote before. For people who don't follow this, 390 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: you had a vote before in the grays Wooden back here. 391 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: Will they this time? 392 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 393 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 13: I believe we will. We're only putting it full because 394 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 13: we've got really strong confidence that the support we've had 395 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 13: over the last three to four months has been really good, 396 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 13: so we believe that we can get across the line 397 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 13: on this. We've had really good engagement with the industry 398 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 13: for a good three or four months now and they've 399 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 13: been part of actually designing the proposal, so we feel 400 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 13: confident that there's good support. There's the press forward. 401 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: If you're right, what's changed between this vote and the 402 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: last one. 403 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 13: There's actually quite a few things. You know. We've been 404 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 13: able to focus really strongly back on our New Zealand 405 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 13: business and getting good returns through our New Zealand Girls 406 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 13: the last two seasons, so girls are comfortable for that. 407 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 13: But we've also changed the proposal and how we've gone 408 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 13: through that so that girls have been actually at the 409 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 13: center of the discussions, been involved in designing the proposal 410 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 13: and had really good feedback was this where along the way, 411 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 13: so it's a bit more of a collaborative process has 412 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 13: been through this time. 413 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: Good to explain to people who don't follow, there's four 414 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty additional hectares of sun gold across Italy, Frances, Japan, 415 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: South Korea in Greece. Does that solve our problem in 416 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: the year round thing and all the cheeks out there 417 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: trying to rip us off? 418 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 13: It helps what we've got At the moments, we're up 419 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 13: against the full limit that we can plant based on 420 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 13: what we've currently got approved. So for us to continue 421 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 13: to compete in our off season, we need to be 422 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 13: able to continue to quite more addles that production. So 423 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 13: it does help us in that regard. 424 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: You've got a vibe for twenty five or we don't know, look. 425 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 13: Looking pretty positive to twenty five, so we think the 426 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 13: crop might be up slightly, so a bit more fruit 427 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 13: to sell. But the market especially finishing really strongly at 428 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 13: the moment, working strong six or seven weeks, so usually 429 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 13: when you see a good end of the season, it 430 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 13: can flow into a good beginning as well. So I'm 431 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 13: quite optimistic at the stage. 432 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: Fantastic good on you and I to talk to you 433 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: appreciate it very much. A Jason de Branca, who's the 434 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: new Ish head of or CEO of Zesprie good news 435 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: for the economy nineteen to two skin speaking of which 436 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: was I'm pretty sure it was this time yesterday. We're 437 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: talking about this farm to forest conversion thing. And one 438 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: of the problems is that the beef and lamb people 439 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 2: get a bit upset because there's tens of thousands of 440 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: hectores going into forestry and they're going, well, what happens 441 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: to the productive land? And of course we're sort of 442 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: standing by for the government to do something about it 443 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: because they want to implement a policy. We're just saying, well, 444 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: what is the policy. Well, yesterday I find out the 445 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: Simon Watts is the Climate Change Minister, along of course 446 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: with the Trade Minister. They went in June to cabinet 447 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: covered brief and Cabinet paper seeking approval to consult on 448 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: managing farm conversions to exotic forestry. Second received. Second briefing 449 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: paper received June twenty. So here we are in October November. 450 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: This was back in June. Nothing happened. Tom McClay the 451 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: Trade Minister, they're sort of gone nowhere the action plan 452 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: for the final quarter. That's the promise final quarter being 453 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: now here. There's going to be an announcement before the 454 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: end of the year, but they think at this particular 455 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: point it's a bit tricky, so they seemingly treading water. 456 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: So we stand by eighteen minutes away from seven. 457 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 458 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: by newstalksp. 459 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: Actually speaking of the New Zealand economy. Very good bit 460 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: of reading in one roof this morning. The housing market, 461 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: as I predicted, is back, and by Christmas time we'll 462 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: be we'll be laughing. Residential property investors, they're out of hibernation. 463 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: According to the stants this morning, one point four billion 464 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: they borrowed from banks at September. Is that a lot, Yes, 465 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: it is. It's the largest sum for a month since 466 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: November twenty one, which was when the market was booming. 467 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: It's five percent more in September than in August, but 468 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: it's fifty four percent more than in September last year, 469 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: So the investors are back. 470 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Six forty five International correspondence with ends at Eye Insurance 471 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: Feace of mind for New Zealand business. 472 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: We'manding the business in the States match. 473 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 13: How are you? 474 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 7: I'm well, Mike, how are you? 475 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: I'm very well. Indeed, where are you? 476 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 14: I am in New York, New York the Empire state 477 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 14: right now. 478 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: Fantastic And is the revive on the street if I 479 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: go down, you know, the upper East side of people 480 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: talking about it? Are they fizziting? Are they excited about 481 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: all this or not yet? 482 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 14: I think from a lot of Americans that I speak do, 483 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 14: they are concerned and they are anxious at which way 484 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 14: this is going to go. Some American friends really don't 485 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 14: want to talk about it, but it's kind of the 486 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 14: elephant in the room right now with only twelve days away. 487 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so we've got a couple of polls out this morning. 488 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: We've got the WSJ one and we've got the CNBC one. 489 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: There's a theme here in Trump's winning. 490 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right. These are significant because if these are 491 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 14: the first polls in the last couple of weeks where 492 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 14: Donald Trump has edged ahead by a couple of points. 493 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 14: So if we look at the Wall Street Journal one, 494 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 14: Trump is ahead forty eight to forty six against Kamala Harris. 495 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 14: When the Wall Street Journal last conducted this poll in August, 496 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 14: it was Harris, who was ahead by two points, and 497 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 14: the journal kind of has this theory as to why 498 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 14: Donald Trump is taking over. They believe that his negative 499 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 14: ad campaigns, which by the way, everywhere, are working, and 500 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 14: they possibly believe because of all the media appearances she's 501 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 14: doing there having a couple of shaky interview answers. I 502 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 14: know last night she was on CNN as part of 503 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 14: this town hall David Axelrod, who is of course Obama's 504 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 14: former campaign manager. He described one of her answers as 505 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 14: a word salad. And this is one of the themes 506 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 14: that's kind of coming out from all these interviews she's 507 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 14: trying to do at the moment. So at the moment, 508 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 14: in some of these polls, Trump is ahead, but as 509 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 14: you know, Mike, national polls don't really matter. It comes 510 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 14: down to the battleground states where they are pretty much tired. 511 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 14: I know that Harris is ahead in around four battleground states, 512 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 14: maybe Trump Boy three, but they are all within the 513 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 14: margin of era. 514 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: I think the problem they got much. I don't know 515 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: if you saw the scene anything yesterday, but I did. 516 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: It's the more you see of her, the more troubled 517 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 2: you become. Some guy stands up in the audience and 518 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: he literally asked them, the price of groceries too high? 519 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: What are you going to do about it? First of all, 520 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: she didn't answer it. She moved on to property development, 521 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: then she moved on to storm damage, and it took 522 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: minute after minute after minute, and at no point did 523 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: she say, I'll tell you one anther And that's her problem. 524 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: She doesn't say anything. 525 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think she has an issue with trying to 526 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 14: do so many interviews so people know her get to 527 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 14: know her better, which is a problem for her. But then, 528 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 14: as you say, the more she does, the more she 529 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 14: might get tangled in some of these answers and people 530 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 14: get sick to see more of what they don't like. 531 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 14: But rest assured, Mike, for those Kamala Harris fans, she's 532 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 14: rolling out the big guns in the next couple of days. 533 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 14: She's holding a rally today with Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen, 534 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 14: who has endorsed her, and then tomorrow it's reported she's 535 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 14: going to rally with Beyonce Noles who might be singing 536 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 14: we don't know, and Willie Nelson and Houston. So the 537 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 14: A lists lives coming out for Kamala. 538 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: Ah I love it. Now, what person in their right 539 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: mind turns down thirty five percent. 540 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a lot of money, but they want forty percent. 541 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 14: This is in relation to Boeing, who, as we know, 542 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 14: it's been a disastrous well, it's been a disastrous year, 543 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 14: not just a couple of years. In January, of course, 544 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 14: a piece of fuselage blew out of an Alaskan Airlines 545 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 14: flight Mike, and then a plane had to turn around 546 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 14: and land in Japan after a crack was found in 547 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 14: the cockpit window. Sheer price has taken a hit at 548 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 14: CEO is left and Boeing workers have been on strike 549 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 14: since the thirteenth of September here in the US, demanding 550 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 14: higher wages and better benefits. Now, hours after the company 551 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 14: announced a six point one billion dollar loss, union workers, 552 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 14: more than thirty thousand of them, have rejected this pay 553 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 14: increase of more than thirty five percent. So it's back 554 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 14: to the drawing board for Boeing. As well as that loss, 555 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 14: it looks like they're going to have to fork out 556 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 14: a lot of money for these wages when they finally 557 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 14: come to an agreement. 558 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: You go, well make good to catch up preciate it, 559 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: which we can in New York the real telltale sign 560 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: yesterday out of that town hall because it was on CNN. 561 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: They had one of those massive CNN panels that only 562 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: CNN can do with about eight hundred and three people 563 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: on board. Is even they and they love Harris more 564 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: than any other network. Even they had to admit that 565 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: what she was saying made literally no sense half the time. 566 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: And then you're going to ask the question, if you 567 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: turn up with Bruce Springsteen and Beyonce and Willie Nelson, 568 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: as much as you love their music and we do, 569 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: does that make you vote for her? What does that 570 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: make you look desperate? Ten away from seven the. 571 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Community News tog 572 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: sad be just. 573 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Back to Elon Musk, who's million dollars a day thing. 574 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: He didn't pay yesterday and I don't think he paid 575 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: the day before. He paid for a couple of days, 576 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: and he hasn't paid for a couple which indicates that 577 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: the DOJ which has got to him and indicated that 578 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: when you hand out money in return for voting, it's 579 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: a data mining exercise. Because of course they argue that 580 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: all you have to do is sign a petition. But 581 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: the problem with the petition when you sign, I got 582 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: a list dur of our personal information, which then means 583 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: the Trump camp can can come after you. So the 584 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: DOJ's decided that's probably a bit dodge, So that'll come 585 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: to an end. But if you want a million dollars, 586 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: you want a million dollars. One of the sadest articles 587 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: I read yesterday was in the Sydney Morning Herald. It 588 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: was a piece that came out, I think originally of 589 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: the New York Times, but it was a piece on 590 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: Jamie Diamond. Jamie Diamond is one of the most influential bankers, 591 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: certainly in America and if not the world, and he 592 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: seemed to suggest earlier on this year he started praising 593 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and no, because he's a famous Democrat, no 594 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: one could work out why suddenly praising Donald Trump, and 595 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: then speculations increasing in private, of course he loves Harris 596 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: because he's a Democrat, and in private also he wants 597 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: a job with a Harris campaign, and Treasury Secretary might 598 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: be a job that he'd be interested in, all of 599 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: which is fine. But the article concluded, from talking to 600 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: people who know him, that the reason he started talking 601 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: publicly about Trump. Is afraid of Trump and he doesn't 602 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: want to be on the wrong side of things, so 603 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: he loves Harris, but he speaks openly about Trump just 604 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: to hedge his bets. If there's one thing I was 605 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: very critical of people in this country during the COVID campaign. 606 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: If you're in a position of some influence, and he 607 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: undoubtedly is, be true to yourself, be honest about if 608 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: you like her, say you like Harris, if you like Trump, 609 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: so you like Trump, but don't hit your bets just 610 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: so you can have a job and then not get 611 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: punished by somebody else at the end of the day. 612 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: All that does is make you spinalless and a scaredy cat, 613 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: and I think less of you five minutes away from seven. 614 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: While the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with 615 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level. 616 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: I told you about Rachel and her chancellor's job and 617 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: the budget next week in Britain and how she's fiddling 618 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: with the numbers at the moment. The other problem they've 619 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: got is indust real action. So let me give you 620 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: just a small taste of how many people are on 621 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: strike about to go and strike could go and strike 622 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: have been on strike in Britain at the moment. Railway staff, 623 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: of course, they're permanently on strike, senior doctors, junior doctors, nurses, teachers, 624 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: NHS consultants, university staff, customer service managers for the underground 625 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: or a security staff, civil servants, aviation staff, although either 626 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: been on currently on strike. Now to help them out 627 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: in comes Sikia Stamer, who loves the unions, loves a 628 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: good strike. They're considering giving workers twice as long to strike. 629 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: So under the current legislation, if workers vote to strike, 630 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: the mandate expires after six months and then the union 631 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: have to go back to the workers and ask for 632 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: another vote. So Labour want to give them a year 633 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: to be able to strike now. Very likely is the argument. 634 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: They're saying. Look the unions when they go back for 635 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: a second vote for a second mandate, mainly they get 636 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: a second vote. So let's save on the admin. Let's 637 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 2: save on the cost of having a second fut and 638 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: just skip that. The Tories, they say, while considering over 639 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: the last two years, what's the official data show will 640 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: The official data shows that walkouts have resulted in more 641 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: than five point seven million working days lost which is 642 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: the highest number of thirty years. Starmer also want to 643 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: get rid of the fifty percent rule where you need 644 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: fifty percent of a workforce voting years to go on strike, 645 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: as well as removing the forty percent rule for the 646 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: NHS staff, which reminded me, of course of Jim Bolger, 647 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: remember Jim Bolger in this country under the previous labor government, 648 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: they very very smartly hired Jimbolgerratry to have a look 649 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: into how you should go on striking this country. That's 650 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: all about the fair wages, and his conclusion was except 651 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: by the government, not surprisingly and overturned by this new government. 652 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: Thank god, that if you had ten percent of people 653 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: in the workplace that wanted to strike, the ninety percent 654 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: didn't count. And if they wanted fair pay, and it 655 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: went across all the industries, didn't matter whether you're running 656 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: a little business and then the cargo or in Auckland 657 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: or anywhere in between. You just had to adhere to 658 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: the new rules. Anyway, thank god that's over, but Britain 659 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: still wading their way through that's mess. Actually, by the way, 660 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Starmer doesn't want to talk about slavery and reparations at Chogham. 661 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: Unfortunately a lot of people in the Pacific Islands do 662 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: and so there is a move a foot apparently over 663 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: the next couple of days that's going to become a 664 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: major issue, much to his shud Win. Nikola Willis, Finance 665 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: Minister and Social Investment, What exactly is all this? 666 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: The breakfast show you can trust the mic Hosking breakfast 667 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: with the range rovervillare designed to intrigue can use Tom Send. 668 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: B blenty seven past seven. So the Finance minister looking 669 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: to overhaul the social services spaces we told you yesterday. 670 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: More focus on outcomes, not outputs. Less corror cross contamination 671 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: when it comes to multiple agencies doing multiple things and 672 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: no one seemingly knowing what's going on, and the idea 673 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: that performance pay in the public sector could be back anyway. 674 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: Social Investment Minister Nicola Willis is in charge of all 675 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: of this and is with us. Very good morning to. 676 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 15: You, Good morning Marte. 677 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: To my eye, it's got a slightly wooly sort of feel. 678 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: I mean, what is social investment and this is Cost's 679 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: job eventually, what specifically is it and what changes? 680 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 15: Well you think about basic concept everyone in New Zealand degrees. 681 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 15: Let's not have an ambulance at the bottom of the cliffs. 682 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 15: Let's build the fence. It's a bit tricky when you 683 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 15: have to work out, well, where should we build the fence, 684 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 15: who are the people who need defences, who's good at 685 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 15: building fences, and how do we check the fences are working. 686 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 15: That's what social investment's about. It's about proper prevention and 687 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 15: proper early intervention so that people don't go on to 688 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 15: lead life of crime, welfare, dependency, under achievement. And we 689 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 15: know that there are some things in communities that do 690 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 15: work off and they're delivered by very grassroots organizations, by EWE, 691 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 15: by non government organizations, by social organizations. But what government 692 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 15: tends to do is go off and fund literally thousands 693 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 15: of different contracts across the country feel really good because 694 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 15: it's funded them, and they never check in to see 695 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 15: which ones are working and which ones should we be 696 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 15: scaling up to. The Social investment is about cleaning all 697 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 15: of that up and being much more purposeful about what 698 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 15: we invest in and whether it's working. 699 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: The cross department stuff. Do you have any idea how 700 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: bad that is, how big it is, therefore, how much 701 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: you can save and how much more efficient you can 702 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: be specifically. 703 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 15: Yeah, well, look, as I said, more than eighteen thousand 704 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 15: contracts Mike. And so there are multiple non government providers 705 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 15: who are working with vulnerable New Zealanders who will have 706 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 15: more than upwards of thirty different contracts. So piecemeal little contracts, 707 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 15: a little contract year if we've got a family violent prevention, 708 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 15: a little contract year to prevent children going into stake year, 709 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 15: contract year to help with children with mental distress, multiple contracts, 710 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 15: and then those will come from multiple departments, so they 711 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 15: might be six or seven different agencies involved. So they're 712 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 15: spending hours filling informs, reporting, doing all of this administrative 713 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 15: bureaucracy stuff. And my view is, look, if they're approven, provider, 714 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 15: tell them what they want to achieve, measure it. If 715 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 15: they're achieving it, we keep funding them. If they're not 716 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 15: achieving it, then we've got to make a change. 717 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: Does something to do with the mindset of the public service. 718 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: Because I've followed Labor with interest, They've been asking Karen Shaw, 719 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: particularly about Orangatamriki and she was arguing, look, there's a 720 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: whole bunch of providers there that have money in the 721 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: bank and never provided any service. Labor never seemed to 722 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: get their head around the idea that if you're not 723 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: spending your money, you're not doing your job. Just in 724 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: simple terms, Why is that level of thinking prevalent in Wellington? 725 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: What's gone wrong there? Everyone else in the real world 726 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: talks about how it comes not just handing out contracts. 727 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: Why is it so weird where you are well? 728 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 15: I call it the easy complacency of good intention, and 729 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 15: it's about that saying of, well, look we're funding five 730 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 15: different programs to prevent family violence. So it doesn't that 731 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 15: feel good? And it feels great to say, look, we're 732 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 15: putting all this money in. But my view is trying 733 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 15: hard is not good enough. Actually you have to go 734 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 15: a step further and say, okay, well we had a 735 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 15: good intention, but is it working? And that question is 736 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 15: very challenging because if you're a government agency and it 737 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 15: turns out the thing you've been funding is a bit hopeless, 738 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 15: maybe the next step is to say, let's stop it, 739 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 15: and so look at I wouldn't just blame public servants. 740 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 15: I've blame politicians too, because politician we love announcing things 741 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 15: and saying, look how lovely we are and how caring 742 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 15: we are. It's a bit hard a year or too 743 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 15: late to say well, we're going to have to stop that, 744 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 15: and that social investment is the introducing some rigor to 745 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 15: all of that, being much more purposeful and frankly taking 746 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 15: power away from government agencies and all of the buacracy 747 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 15: that comes with it and putting it down on the 748 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 15: grapp glass roots with the people and communities who actually 749 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 15: know what's going on. 750 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: Appreciate your time as always, Nicola Willi's Finance Social Services Minister, 751 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: speaking of which eleven past, seven past another day, another 752 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: report from an onwardsman who highlights issues that are rung 753 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: a tomriki. So they failed to investigate reports of violence 754 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: and assault against pre and primary school children. There were 755 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: nine reports, seven different parties. Co founder of the Great 756 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: Potentials Foundation, Dame Leslie Maxis back Leslie, morning to you, 757 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: Good morning mate. This seems systemic. There seems that nobody 758 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: seems to be able to turn around. Ot can they 759 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: do you hold out any hope at all or not? 760 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 16: Well? 761 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 5: Look, I know that they have a minister who is 762 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 5: very intent on doing that, and she has that prize, 763 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 5: a prize characteristic of lived experience. She knows she knows 764 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: what it's like to be a child in the system, 765 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 5: so I think she's highly motivated. It is a big 766 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 5: ship and it does something very well. Look this morning, 767 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 5: I've just been looking at their their Family Start directions 768 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 5: manual Family Started, something that I was instrumental in introducing, 769 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 5: along with Brainwhere Trust and others years ago, and it 770 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 5: was for prevention and intervention of family violence, of violence 771 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 5: against children, maltreatment, and gosh, it's a wonderful manual. But 772 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 5: I don't know how it's all working. This is what 773 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 5: I don't know. And I don't know the extent. 774 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 13: To which. 775 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 5: There was any connection between Family Start and those scores 776 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 5: of tortured and murder babies and small children that I 777 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 5: have in my files makes horrendous reading. So I don't know, Mike. 778 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 5: All I know is it must be better than this, 779 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 5: And i'd say that, you know, it's striking that there 780 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 5: were nine reports of concern when in so many cases 781 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 5: there are no reports of concerns, but nine, you think. 782 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 2: Would so somebody somewhere would see or do or say something. 783 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 5: You would you would think, so you would think. So, Look, 784 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 5: the incidence of child abuse and neglect has not gone 785 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 5: down and you know, you would think that it would have, 786 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 5: but the police data shows that the number of children 787 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 5: under fifteen reported as being victims of violent crime grew 788 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 5: forty one percent between in the five years to twenty 789 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 5: twenty three. I mean, that is that is huge. And 790 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 5: I noticed one thing from the material that I collect 791 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 5: is that it's not only stepfathers these days who are 792 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 5: prominent in this field, but fathers and the inability to 793 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 5: deal with babies and babies crying, and this is so fundamental. 794 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 5: You know, our kids go through god knows how many 795 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 5: years of compulsory education come out at the other end 796 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 5: with no knowledge whatsoever of how to be a parent, 797 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 5: which most of them will be. 798 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: I think there is a flaw there in America Jesus 799 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: to say the least, Leslie, listen, appreciate your time down 800 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: Leslie Max. It seems we've got no further ahead. We 801 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 2: had a mass report recently into treatment and care and 802 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: we thought, oh, that was in the seventies. It wasn't 803 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: it bad that it was in the seventies. There we 804 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: are in twenty twenty four and we don't seem to 805 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: have got any further. We also have news this morning 806 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 2: that petrel is not running out the way we thought 807 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: it would in terms of demand. We'll come back to 808 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: that in just a couple of moments. Fifteen past seven The. 809 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 810 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 1: News Talks at. 811 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: B Stacy Jones in the League for your shortly seventeen 812 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: past seven. Turns out we haven't reached peak petrol channel 813 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: infrastructure formerly refined New Zealand. Of course, now forecasting twenty 814 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: thirty as opposed to next year is a likely peak point. 815 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 2: They're also looking at what they're calling an energy precinct 816 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: to Marsden point. Are the boss, Rob you Cannon back 817 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: with us? Rob, morning to. 818 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 13: You, Good morning Mike. 819 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 2: The peak forecasting, how much of that's just throw a 820 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: dart at to board versus science. 821 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 6: Well, we're a long term infrastructure company, so one of 822 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 6: the things that we need to do is continually produce 823 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 6: long term outlocks for fuel use in New Zealand. So 824 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 6: to ground ourselves, we have about New Zealand's transport fuels 825 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 6: come through our terminal system and about eighty percent of 826 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 6: New Zealand's jet fuel. The outlook that you're referring to 827 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 6: is a twenty five year outlook. So the one thing 828 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 6: we know is that in twenty five years it'll be wrong. 829 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 6: But it's about as good as we can get in 830 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 6: terms of making those assumptions and outloos today. 831 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: I take it is all to do. The reason it's 832 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: peak twenty thirty is because the economy slowed down. We 833 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: don't buy as much and we're not buying as many 834 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: evs because we're carried away and that in reality didn't 835 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: turn out to be what we thought it would be. 836 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 6: Yes, the colored drivers there. So one is we've got 837 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 6: an expectation of continuing growth. Is we see that recovery 838 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 6: of long will travel post COVID. But I think what 839 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 6: you're referring to there around evs is right. So the 840 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 6: government removed the clean car discount. We also saw post 841 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 6: COVID a permanent reduction in vehicle vehicle plumpers traveled, the 842 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 6: video conferencing and those types of things. But I think 843 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 6: we've also seen a pretty dramatic reduction and the registration 844 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 6: of evs now that they compete like for like with 845 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 6: internal combustion engines. 846 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: Right, I read to report this week. You can help 847 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: me out because I didn't understand it. The biggest influx 848 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: of LNG suppliers coming. This is globally. It'll transform the 849 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 2: global market, bringing about wider implications and previous expansions. Do 850 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: you see that as being true as that happening. 851 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 6: Well, New Zealand doesn't have an led G inport terminal 852 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 6: at no point. 853 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 2: But we got excited a couple of months ago though, didn't. 854 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 6: We Well, I think that was off the back of 855 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 6: a pretty challenging period the electricity set sector went through 856 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 6: shortage of gas, therefore shortage of electricity, therefore very high 857 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 6: electricity prices. So there's certainly been some discussions about an 858 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 6: LNG import terminal. I think the challenges that are very 859 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 6: expensive to build, own and operate, so we need to 860 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 6: need to make sure we look at all options and 861 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 6: forer energy security. 862 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 2: Good insight. Rob, have a good week and I appreciate 863 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: it very much. 864 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 13: Rob. 865 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: You can in Channel Infrastructure CEO. Yes, so they're going 866 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: to the expansion. This is LNG is like to lead 867 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 2: to a state of over supply by the end of 868 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: twenty six which will remain until twenty thirty, prices possibly 869 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 2: moving below double digits. Interesting thing about that is, of 870 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: course the government will wetting their pants with excitement over 871 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 2: the importation of L and G. You remember all of that, 872 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 2: Then suddenly crickets chirping, And yet next winter, next winter, 873 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 2: they've already said, we're in trouble. So what's happening? Hey, 874 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 2: what's happening? 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It's more enticing than a small 902 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 2: wine tasting. After telling somebody to we f off Andrew 903 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 2: Bailey two. 904 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 7: I had a small wine tasting. 905 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: Inexplicable behavior we still don't really know the details of it, 906 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: also hopelessly explain, thus dragging it out. The PM three 907 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 2: wat wat you go on shelf mide and a moderate 908 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 2: bit a mess that he then made worse by making 909 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 2: a meal of it, thus dragging it out. Darlene Tanna 910 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 2: one a person who should never have found a way 911 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 2: to a House of Representatives anywhere. The Greens three almost 912 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: though they took lessons from Luxan on how to handle 913 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 2: a bit of mess, thus dragging it out the America's 914 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 2: Cup seven. Why wouldn't you believe Ainsley a the greatest 915 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 2: team ever? Liam Lawson nine of just advoo in one 916 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: of the world's most significant and influential sports, but a 917 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 2: day boot that had everyone mesmerized. Next up Mexic are 918 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 2: the White Ferns eight World Champs, case closed, Katsu Chicken 919 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: eight Victory of the week in many respects, a problem addressed, solved, 920 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: money saved and the critics essentially silenced Wellington six because, 921 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: in a small way the boil on the incompetence that 922 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 2: was at least partially lanced with the commissioner being appointed. 923 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 2: Are the Common Games three It's got staggering on its 924 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 2: last legs, vibes, doesn't really ten events, last minute city 925 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 2: and a world where sport is booming. This isn't Uber 926 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 2: six coming to a whole bunch of newtowns and regional 927 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: musaland look, anyone expanding their business at the moment is 928 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: to be embraced and encouraged. As far as I'm concerned. 929 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: Are the king Aka for a lo loc and cancer treatment? 930 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 2: That was a good looking tour and some very big crowds, 931 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: and I think it shut the Republicans up. Missus Sinwar one. 932 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: If you didn't see it, Yaya's wife was photographed in 933 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 2: a tunnel in Gaza with a burken bag. And if 934 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 2: that doesn't tell you all you need to know about 935 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 2: her mask, nothing does long weekends seven help yourself. I mean, 936 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: it's what all those who negotiated a four day week 937 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 2: feel like every week, and that's the week copies on 938 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: the website. It turns out, by the way, if you 939 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 2: take two and a half of these and you dissolve 940 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: them in hot water and add them to the Westmere 941 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 2: Butchery's pork and leak sausage, it tastes even better. Husking Mike, 942 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: forget everything, let's talk laws and wats your prediction for 943 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: the weekend? Yea, it's an interesting prediction. He'll do well. 944 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 2: Sophomore though, sophomore performance, sophomore album. You're so hyped in 945 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: the opening, you're wetting your pants with excitement, you drive 946 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 2: out of your skin. Then you're thinking, hello, I'm quite good, 947 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: and then suddenly it's not quite as good the second 948 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 2: time out. I hope he's hope he's better than that. 949 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: I think he's better than that, but it's all to 950 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: play for. He's been on the track. Remember last time 951 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: he was on the track, he had a free practice 952 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: in Verstappens car and he had to pull over because 953 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 2: the brakes were on fire. So he's been there before. 954 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 2: So every expectation that we are onto something quite big. 955 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 2: And of course the talking point out of the week 956 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 2: in to one to watch out for is Pererez going 957 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: to be jettisoned out of the seat post Mexico speaking 958 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: of sport Stacy Jones and the league in christ Church. 959 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 2: More shortly after the News which is next to news 960 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 2: talks edb what. 961 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: The big news? Bold opinions, the Mic Hosking breakfast with 962 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: Bailey's real Estate your local experts across residential, commercial and 963 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: rural News Talks. 964 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 2: Had been continuing the conversation Mike Lawson will be in 965 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 2: the points. I hope you're right. I mean he was 966 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: in the points at the back of the field, so 967 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 2: lord knows what he can do if he qualifies well, 968 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 2: and do remember and qualifying Q one he got the 969 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 2: third best time. In fact, if he that time, by 970 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 2: the way, ultimately if he had gone through to Q three, 971 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 2: let's not bore you with the details, but if he'd 972 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: gone through that time would have put him seventh on 973 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 2: the grid. So if he had started seventh, imagine what 974 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 2: he could have done. Mike hawksby anniversary day today much 975 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 2: needed a few days off of the land workers having 976 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 2: a brilliant spring. Good orchards and vineyards are in great shape, Paul, 977 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 2: I share with you the happy days, Mike. So you, 978 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: like the rest of the MSM, think that the pathetic 979 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey story is more important than Chippy lying about 980 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: Hasha Buryl's distant relative, and that Peter's concerns are irrelevant. Well, Dina, 981 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: let me come back to you in a moment. Twenty 982 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 2: three to eight, Tim and Cody arfter right now, along 983 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: with the supercars on the Gold Coast and the equine 984 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 2: in Mexico, we got the League. Of course in Christ 985 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 2: you its Kiwis faced the Kangaroos. Last time we played 986 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 2: the Kangaroos pants them thirty mil Our team's got five 987 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: first timers and an old guy called Johnson. Who would 988 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: have thought Coach Stacy Jones is back with a Stacey 989 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: morning to you. 990 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 17: Yeah, good morning, Mike. 991 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 2: You're feeling good. Have you got the side together and 992 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: they look good over the shortened period of time that 993 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 2: you get to mold them. 994 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 13: Yeah. 995 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 17: Look, as each day goes, the preparation picks up another 996 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 17: level and it's about to making sure that we're connected 997 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 17: closely as a group. So I felt, well that had 998 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,720 Speaker 17: prep so far. We've got one more training run tomorrow, 999 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 17: our captain's running. Yeah, and then game Sunday. 1000 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 2: Does the weather bother? You see tomorrow for the captain's 1001 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 2: run supposed to pour, but by game day it's it's 1002 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 2: going to be sunny. 1003 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 17: Oh look, captain's run for these fairly short and sharps, 1004 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 17: So yeah, we've got to get a little bit wet. 1005 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 17: We get a little bit wet, so yeah, and if 1006 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 17: the sun's out on Sunday, it'll make for a good, 1007 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 17: good game of foot. 1008 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 2: Team open day was good that there's a crowd there 1009 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 2: isn't there people that's to sell out the game itself. 1010 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: So so there's a good vibe about this. 1011 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 17: Oh it's been amazing. What the height the support that 1012 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 17: they've got for this game. And you know, two world 1013 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 17: class teams you know performing and the girls too, they're 1014 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 17: going to be a massive game for them too. So 1015 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 17: the support here has been outstanding for everyone. 1016 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: Now talk to me about Sean. Had he let himself 1017 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: go and he hit the Beers poster's retirement, did you 1018 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 2: have the whip them in shape? 1019 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 17: Yeah? Well he went into holiday mo for a bit there. 1020 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 17: But obviously with the injuries we've had, we've had to 1021 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 17: call some some players in and you know, with Jerom 1022 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 17: Hughes being out the daily and winner a huge loss 1023 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 17: for us. But Sean answered a call and we're very 1024 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 17: thankful that he's he's going to be a part. 1025 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,959 Speaker 2: Of this school and the experience. You can't you can't 1026 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 2: overvalue the experience, can you. 1027 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 3: Oh? 1028 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 17: You know, he he knows his role and the role 1029 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 17: that he'll play. He's very good at. So yeah, we're 1030 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 17: very thankful that he's that he's going to be being 1031 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 17: playing for us. 1032 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 2: Tell us this guy Warbrook and I don't know, and 1033 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 2: so he plays a f L, he plays sevens now, 1034 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 2: he plays league? Is he like a freak? 1035 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 13: He is. 1036 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 17: He's a big boy. He's been in a system that's 1037 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 17: really developed his game, you know, in the Melbourne Storm 1038 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 17: system where you know they took their time with him 1039 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 17: and developing him. He had had a year and reserve 1040 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 17: grade and got a bit of football last year and 1041 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 17: he just came on this year, so you know, very 1042 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 17: well deserved to be a part of the Kiwis. 1043 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 2: And what about you, Stacy, are feeling a bit of 1044 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 2: pressure given you're a bit newish to the job and 1045 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff is there? You know? 1046 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 17: Yeah, Look, there's always pressure in these positions, but I 1047 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 17: don't feel as always with prepped well and done the 1048 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 17: best weekend. I feel no confident that, you know, we 1049 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 17: can put together a performance. You know, I've got a 1050 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 17: really good, good group of people around me and the 1051 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 17: other coaching staff and our trainers, and then I've got 1052 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 17: a really good leadership group led by our captain James 1053 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 17: sher Harris. So I feel comfortable with what we've got there. 1054 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: You go, go well, mate, We'll be watching appreciated Stacy Jones, 1055 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 2: the Keywis coach with us this morning, nineteen minutes away 1056 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: from it. You miss the same thing about I don't 1057 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 2: know what you're talking about the MSM and whether I 1058 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 2: think it's more or less important. I wouldn't have a 1059 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 2: clue what you're talking about. The Bailey story I got 1060 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 2: thoroughly and I said so on the program yesterday. By Friday, 1061 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: I was officially sick and tired of it, although I 1062 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 2: noted the Labour Party tried to prosecute it even further 1063 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 2: in question time yesterday and got basically nowhere, I think, 1064 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 2: And I was talking to somebody about it, and I 1065 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 2: think their dissertation might have been right, essentially, And this 1066 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 2: goes back to Lucksom. Essentially, Luckson's forget the politics. Essentially 1067 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 2: he's a nice guy. Andrew Bailey is essentially a nice guy. 1068 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,919 Speaker 2: Torris traditionally aren't scrappers. They don't quite get this rg 1069 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 2: bargie backstabbing business of politics, and so they don't explain 1070 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 2: themselves well. And so what you had was, I think, 1071 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, an unfortunate set of circumstances, 1072 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 2: and Bailey should never have done what he did, but 1073 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,919 Speaker 2: it got blown hopelessly out of proportion by the lack 1074 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 2: of political management because Luckxin's useless at this stuff, and 1075 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 2: if he had just put it out, put the fire 1076 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 2: out from the start, he would have solved themselves a 1077 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,760 Speaker 2: day's worth of coverage. Then you get to the business 1078 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 2: of Peter's that was a joke. So yes, Chippy misled 1079 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 2: us a distant relative versus a close relative. The woman 1080 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 2: concerned is the sister in law that I think irrefutably 1081 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 2: is a close relative, not a distant relative. There was 1082 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 2: a conflict of interest that should have been declared. The 1083 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: Ministry didn't declare the conflict of interest. Both stories, though, 1084 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 2: Can I just try and explain one more time? Both stories, 1085 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: to my eye fall into the Beltwagh category, and that 1086 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 2: is yeah, they're probably worth covering if you insist. But honestly, 1087 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 2: given all that we're facing in this country at the moment, 1088 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 2: like the gargantuan mess that we're currently in, we spent 1089 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 2: far too much time on the frippery and not enough 1090 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 2: time on the serious stuff. 1091 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: Seventeen two Coo the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast 1092 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks. 1093 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 2: It'd be fourteen away from ete. You probably already picked 1094 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 2: it up. But I'm feeling pretty good today, better than normal, 1095 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: and I normally feel pretty good. But because I did 1096 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 2: the big test to check, so basically, how old you are, 1097 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 2: And this is not numerically, this is just in general 1098 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 2: health terms, and so what happens if you're over fifty? 1099 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,439 Speaker 2: You stand on one leg for a period of time, 1100 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: and on the dominant and the non dominant leg. I'll 1101 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 2: do it both sides. And if you can't do it 1102 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 2: for a sustained period of time, you've got problems. They 1103 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 2: don't necessarily tell you what the problems are individually, but 1104 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 2: it's not a good sign. 1105 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 7: How long is the sustained period exactly. 1106 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 2: Just just brace yourself and be patient. Glyn, we're coming 1107 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 2: to that one. Don't rush the story. What I do 1108 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 2: in the morning is I do forty seconds on one leg. 1109 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 2: But my understanding is you've got to stick your leg 1110 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 2: out in front of you. So what I do in 1111 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 2: the morning, and this came from who's the guy who 1112 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 2: tragically died in Greece on the holidays, Michael, give me 1113 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 2: the guy, the health guy mostly, So his thing was, 1114 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 2: you just lift one leg up for forty seconds and 1115 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: you stand there and if you can do that, then 1116 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 2: you're good and you run a lower risk of getting 1117 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 2: Alzheimer's and demetra and stuff like that, and then you 1118 00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 2: do the other leg. So I do that every morning, 1119 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 2: brushing my teeth, and so that's no particular problem for me. 1120 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 2: This new test, and this is new research. It covers 1121 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 2: your overall health system balance reflects how the body systems 1122 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 2: are working together. So they did forty participants, all in 1123 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: similarly good health with no neuromuscular disorders. The amount of 1124 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 2: time one could hold one leg standing are declined at 1125 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 2: the rate of two point two seconds per decade in 1126 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 2: the non dominant side and one point seven seconds per 1127 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 2: decade in the dominant side. And this was for both 1128 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 2: men and women. So a good rule of thumb. And 1129 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 2: this comes to the part you're asking about a moment ago, Glenn, 1130 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: how long A good rule of thumb is to be 1131 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 2: able to hold the stance for about thirty seconds or 1132 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 2: longer for those sixty nine and younger, about twenty seconds 1133 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 2: for those seventy to seventy nine, and ten seconds for 1134 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 2: those older than eighty. So if you can do it 1135 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: for more than thirty seconds, leg out in front, dominant 1136 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 2: and non dominant, which, as it turns out, hence my 1137 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 2: original statement that I'm feeling pretty good this morning. You're 1138 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: in good health. 1139 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 7: Some dispute from some members of the production team about 1140 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 7: the league in front. 1141 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 2: Thing, Well, you don't think it's a league in front. 1142 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 7: He thinks it's sort of like a knee in front 1143 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 7: and a foot behind. 1144 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,839 Speaker 2: Oh okay, you want to do it. They won't stand 1145 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 2: there and keep you know, the flamingo side. So you're 1146 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 2: hooking your You're hooking your foot behind your knee like 1147 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 2: a flamingo, and that would indicate to me that that 1148 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 2: assists your balance. 1149 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 7: So you're doing league in front. 1150 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: I just stuck my leg out in front while you're 1151 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 2: brushing your teeth. No, well that's separate. 1152 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 7: The more interesting the story gets. 1153 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 2: No teeth brushing, I just lift my leg up. 1154 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 7: But I'm gonna say because the league in front, you're 1155 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 7: a long way from the scene, and then you've got 1156 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,280 Speaker 7: toothpaste down your front, very old. 1157 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 2: And so leagan front for non tooth parts. 1158 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 7: That happens to me even when I'm not standing on. 1159 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 2: One leg, and I will either way in both positions. 1160 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 2: I haven't done the flamingo though, Sam, And that's a 1161 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 2: very interesting stance. But I'm confident, having stuck my leg 1162 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 2: out in front for over thirty seconds, I could flamingo 1163 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 2: it and do thirty seconds as well, so I think. 1164 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 2: And what I did not to Sam is you stood 1165 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 2: up for about three and a half seconds in set 1166 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 2: back down again. I don't think I think Sam for 1167 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 2: a very young man has some health issues here. 1168 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 7: We're gonna have to have a standoff exactly. 1169 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to tell us about. Turn away from it. 1170 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 1: Call the Mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover. 1171 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 2: Then news tog said, buh, you know what I like 1172 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 2: about you, Mike. You not only give the punches out, 1173 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 2: but you also can take them as well as taking 1174 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 2: the piss out of yourself. That's a great place. Very 1175 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 2: nice of you to say it more difficult. Have you 1176 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 2: fallen over someone's just taxt it? It's much more difficult. 1177 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 2: Have you fallen over you on the floor in pain? 1178 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 2: It much more difficult. It's not that difficult. Where am I? 1179 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 13: Seven? 1180 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 2: Away from eight? Seems the vinyl revival is real? A 1181 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 2: lot of noises past couple of years, as I'm sure 1182 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 2: we're around vinyl records. Who's buying them? The fact they've 1183 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 2: never died out now Gordon Stevenson runs NAPY is just 1184 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 2: for the record business apparently is booming and Gordon's wether 1185 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 2: it's mate, how are you? 1186 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 18: I'm extremely well, thank you? 1187 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 3: Good? 1188 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 2: Are you online or retail or both? We both okay? 1189 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 2: And so how do you sell most of them? Is 1190 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: it all online or people come in and have a 1191 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 2: little flip through. 1192 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 18: Probably the majority is online, but we do a regional 1193 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 18: around and we've actually got a store in our garage 1194 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,359 Speaker 18: at home, so it works quite nicely, thank you. 1195 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 2: And how many in the garage? 1196 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 13: Well about for thirty forty? 1197 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 2: Do they warp in the sun? Because mine warped. I 1198 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 2: used to have a vinyl collection and it just the 1199 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 2: whole thing warped, and I was heartbroken. 1200 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 18: I can understand that because they're very difficult to reap 1201 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 18: it to perfects if they are warped. But yes they do. 1202 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 18: We keep them out of the sun. 1203 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 2: Good stuff. What do you pay for a vinyl album 1204 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,240 Speaker 2: these days? Roughly? 1205 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,760 Speaker 13: That varies. 1206 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 18: It's because the records aren't just records. There's various quality 1207 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 18: of records. We start at realistically about fifty dollars and 1208 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 18: go through about four hundred. 1209 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 2: See that's interesting, isn't it? Because fifties more than the 1210 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,720 Speaker 2: CD and it's certainly more expensive than streaming. 1211 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 18: Yes, and it sounds considerably better too. 1212 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 3: Ah. 1213 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 2: So there's my great fascination, Gordon. When the CD came along, 1214 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 2: as you'll well remember, the fixation was, ah, it's so 1215 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 2: good that sound, and so we became fixated with the 1216 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 2: quality of the sound. And yet when streaming came along, 1217 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 2: no one seems to care about that anymore. And the 1218 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 2: sound is crap. 1219 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 18: Oh grin Tyley, you know you can, you can losing 1220 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 18: up to forty percent of the music. I can't see 1221 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 18: the logic of that at all. 1222 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: But then again, the vinyl sound is different to a CD, 1223 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 2: and could you argue not quite as good or would 1224 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 2: we get into fistital. 1225 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 18: I think fistic caps are coming up very quickly. No, 1226 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 18: vinyl sounds considerably better because digital scenario, we can't listen 1227 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 18: to a digital signal, so it's got to be converted 1228 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 18: from analog where we listen to it, then converted to 1229 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 18: digital income then back to analog so we can hear it. 1230 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 18: All those steps to degrade the music. 1231 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 2: Do you see an increasing variety of artists in vinyl nowadays? 1232 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 2: Is that growing as well? 1233 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 13: Dramatically good? 1234 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 18: I mean, to be honest, there's very few artists that 1235 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 18: aren't on vinyl. I mean, for example, yesterday or today 1236 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 18: we're releasing Pat Freddy's dropped new album. But then the 1237 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 18: other interesting, of course, is on the other end of 1238 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 18: the scale. We've got The Animals with the Animals, which 1239 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 18: is celebrating the sixtieth anniversary, has just been released on 1240 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 18: yellow vinyl. 1241 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 2: No Way, and of course you need a turntable, Yes, 1242 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 2: we do. Can you get turntables easily? 1243 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 18: Very easily? 1244 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 1245 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 2: Last time I looked at it was sort of they 1246 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 2: had one or two and they were a bit cool 1247 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 2: but trendy, and I thought quite expensive. 1248 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 18: Well realistically, I mean I was in a Harvey Normand 1249 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 18: yesterday and I was totally devastated because they had two 1250 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 18: absolutely rubbish turntables. You go to a specialists. There's lots 1251 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 18: and lots of good quality products around, and some of 1252 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 18: them are reasonable. I think you can spend a lot 1253 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 18: of money on the turntable as same as you can 1254 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 18: spend a lot of money on a CD player. 1255 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 2: I guess. So what do you pay for a turntable? Roughly? 1256 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 18: Oh, realistically, yeah, I think can have half decent about 1257 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 18: one thousand dollars upwards. There's not a lot of money today, 1258 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,479 Speaker 18: there's twenty twenty four. 1259 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 2: Oh god, but there you go, Gordon. You tell jeez, 1260 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 2: I thought we're in the cost of living crisis. But 1261 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 2: my apologies, it's not alike. Gordon says, and Gordon must be. 1262 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 7: Right, paying fifty backs for a year records. 1263 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 2: Fifty record, one thousand for your turntable. Then you need 1264 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 2: another record. 1265 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 7: Spotify subscriptions starting to sound pretty damn reasonable. 1266 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 2: Then you need two records, and that's one hundred dollars. 1267 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 2: And after a while you get sick of that. You 1268 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 2: need three records. But you can't beat the vinyl. That 1269 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,479 Speaker 2: part is through news for you in a couple of moments. 1270 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 2: Then we'll do the week with two and K. You're 1271 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 2: a newstalk zb. 1272 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: You're trusted source for news and views. The Mic Hosking 1273 00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities Life said, guy, could. 1274 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 2: You please advise the name of the company the man 1275 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 2: selling the vinyl? Just for the record, is the name 1276 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 2: of the company, just for the record, this is on vinyl. 1277 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Can you hear the difference? I can, Mike, you'll also 1278 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 2: need speakers, big bucks for the good ones. That's true. Actually, 1279 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 2: Brett's very good points. Why I ask myself whether I 1280 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 2: can continue doing this job for much longer because I 1281 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 2: forget a lot of the detail. That there's some critical part. 1282 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Remember the days when there were, well, when records were 1283 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 2: a big deal, you also had the big thick cables. 1284 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 2: Remember you had to have a big thick cable from 1285 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 2: the turntable to the speaker, and the thicker the cable, 1286 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 2: the cooler it was. 1287 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 7: Well, of course it didn't go straight to the speak. 1288 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 7: Go into your head unit first, right, Yeah. 1289 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 2: You had a whole room, didn't You had to have 1290 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 2: a whole room. And if you had a sound room, 1291 01:00:53,600 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 2: you were like the coolest cat and town shut up, 1292 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Sam MOUSEI the Dreams of the Mother's Mother quite a 1293 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 2: good name for an album. Although is this an album? 1294 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 2: I think it's an EP. Isn't it really to be? Frank, 1295 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 2: I'll come to that in just a moment. She's in 1296 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 2: real life called Serena Close. She's from christ Church. The 1297 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 2: album's out today right now from Winegum Records. It's her 1298 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 2: third album. Is this the hypnotic focus track? He is, okay, Well, 1299 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 2: this is the one that's sort of the big deal 1300 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 2: of this one planned this was. 1301 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 7: I don't play the focus tracks. I like to focus 1302 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 7: on the unfocused tracks. 1303 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 2: She's doing a tour and she's in christ Church in 1304 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: the dark room. She's in Wellington at Moon and Katie. 1305 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 2: She's an Auckland at Neck of the Woods tell us 1306 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 2: about the Neck of the Woods twenty three and a 1307 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,919 Speaker 2: half and it's only eight tracks, so you know. 1308 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: We can with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to 1309 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: the table. 1310 01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 16: Very important to give us that where you were nearly 1311 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,919 Speaker 16: a arrested, Katie, was that Neck of the Words? 1312 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 19: Is that good question to so many places of and 1313 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 19: almost arrested? I can't remember. Okay, okay, possibly. 1314 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 2: But obviously the Neck of the Woods are still going. Hey, Katie, yes, 1315 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 2: can't come in with coming with a hot boon or 1316 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 2: a knife in the back of whatever it is you got. 1317 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 19: I wasn't going to do that. I was just wondering. 1318 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 20: Many of the audience, like me, were quickly standing on 1319 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 20: one leg during your speech. Obviously not the people in cars, 1320 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 20: but well you don't know thatybody else was immediately sticking 1321 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 20: your leg up. 1322 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well the problem is did you stick your leg 1323 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 2: in front? 1324 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1325 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Okay, because Sam did it like a pelican, and it's 1326 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 2: clearly it's easier to do it like a pelican. But 1327 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 2: I from the picture I saw in the story I saw, 1328 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 2: it appeared that you had to stick it out in front. 1329 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 19: Yeah, but here's the thing, it's too easy so I reckon. 1330 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 19: Surely you have to have. 1331 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 20: Your eyes closed because that is a challenge with balance. 1332 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 20: People do that because acc Please do not fall. 1333 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 2: Please, Can we do a public health barning regards cutting 1334 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 2: the balancing exercise? It has to be done with your 1335 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 2: eyes closed? Lorraine texted that, No, it doesn't. That's the 1336 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 2: point the test they did. It doesn't have to do 1337 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: with your eyes closed, because it isn't. 1338 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 16: But yeah, because your balance is you're receiving visual feedback 1339 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 16: that helps. That's that's part of the data for your balance. 1340 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 16: So if you're closing off that, then you're not doing 1341 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 16: it properly. 1342 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: I would argue, if you can go longer than thirty 1343 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 2: seconds were on one leg dominant and not dominant with 1344 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 2: your eyes closed, you're a freak and it's not actually possible. 1345 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 19: Yeah, now of course going to try it. 1346 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Did you go, min I've doing the what was that? 1347 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 20: Sorry? 1348 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Did you go more than thirty seconds with. 1349 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 19: My eyes closed? 1350 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 2: No? 1351 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 19: Did you shut it with my eye closed? But it's 1352 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 19: too easy to do it with your eyes open? Yeah, 1353 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 19: way more than thirty seconds, I mean, I can just 1354 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 19: it's just tedious. 1355 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 16: I've I've been doing the flamingos since I've been doing 1356 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 16: the flamingo since we started this segment. 1357 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 19: I mean, I'm on one leg third so here I am. 1358 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Did you hear Mark Mitchell tim this week on Politics 1359 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 2: Wednesday his claim of thirty press ups. 1360 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 16: I did not hear that, but thirty Yeah, well there's 1361 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 16: nothing well that the police minister should be doing a 1362 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 16: hundred a day. Well, I know ad a day. 1363 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well of course you do. But you don't look 1364 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 2: like you're a wiry. 1365 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 19: We thing you're a wiry, you're a wiry. 1366 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 7: We don't start. 1367 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 16: Don't start skinny shaming me, all right, I won't have it. 1368 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 19: No, No, you're busy, you're running around after kids. 1369 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 20: You go go go, you know, not saying Mark's not go, 1370 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 20: go go, but he just. 1371 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 19: Probably moves at a slightly slow pace than you do. 1372 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 2: I saw him on the news last night and he 1373 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 2: was running up a mountain in Gisbon and he barely 1374 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 2: got up the mountain. In fact, when I say a mountain, 1375 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 2: it was a slight slope and he was he was 1376 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 2: blowing like there was no tomorrow. There was a there 1377 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 2: was a fitness issue at play. 1378 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 16: There are you thinking, are you thinking maybe there's a 1379 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 16: bit of a bit of over inflation at the thirty. 1380 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 2: No, I think he's good for the thirty. I just 1381 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 2: thought that, you know, I'd i'd like to see him 1382 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 2: stand with one leg out in front sea. How long 1383 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 2: you can do it? How old is Mark eighty? 1384 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 7: He? 1385 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 19: How old is he? 1386 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 3: Do you know? 1387 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to guess at fifty two? 1388 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1389 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty four, he's fifty six. 1390 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 16: Hey, Mike, remember being fifty six? 1391 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 2: Good out at neck of the woods. No worries. How 1392 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: many people are you? Are you at the office yet, Tim? 1393 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 6: No? 1394 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 2: No, it today's work from home. Answer is my next question, 1395 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 2: is anybody in this country actually at work today? And 1396 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 2: given the answer is no, then we've got to stop 1397 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 2: shaming schools on their teacher only days because we are 1398 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 2: as bad as they are, because no one is here. 1399 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 2: Everybody wants the Friday. I've emailed people today to solve 1400 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 2: the many you know, the many crises I'm facing at 1401 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 2: this company at the moment, and every single one of 1402 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 2: them's come back to me with it. I'm on and 1403 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 2: you'll leave until got. 1404 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 3: Out of office. 1405 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out of office. 1406 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 3: Well, to be fair, I was. 1407 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 16: I did did an event yesterday, so I was up 1408 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 16: quite early. So I'm taking I'm taking time and loo 1409 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 16: when we bail. 1410 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 2: Really my sixty six year old husband struggling to stand 1411 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 2: on one leg. Now we're worried. Oh dear, Yeah, in 1412 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 2: defensive mark. And it is true the minister had street 1413 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 2: shoes on. That part is true. But as he said, 1414 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 2: when you and it was an exercise and what to 1415 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 2: do when an earthquake and a tsunami's coming, And as 1416 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 2: he said, you're going to get caught, you got to 1417 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 2: run for it. And if you happen to be in 1418 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 2: a suit and works us, you got to run for it. 1419 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 2: As simple as that. 1420 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 20: Well, got on him for even doing that. I mean, 1421 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 20: he's a go getter, isn't he for doing it? Hey, 1422 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 20: by the way, two months till Christmas. 1423 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 19: I just worked that out today. Can you believe that? 1424 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 2: Well, giving us my twenty fifth of October, that would 1425 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 2: be correct? 1426 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 19: That is where has this year gone? It is the 1427 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 19: fastest year in the history of the world. 1428 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 2: Don't you think it feels like that? 1429 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 16: I completely agree? 1430 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 2: Be it? So what was a random science fact segment? Now, Ei, 1431 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 2: there's the fastest through the world. 1432 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 16: Okay, okay, so it's okay, what month do you identify 1433 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 16: as you're not a fan of November, So what months 1434 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 16: would you like to identify as to be more comfortable? 1435 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 19: Feeling some much, especially in Auckland feeling the vibes. 1436 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 2: Twenty three is the high today. You can't argue with that. Hey, listen, 1437 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 2: hold on, You're fourteen past eight. 1438 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio 1439 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks. 1440 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 2: It be seventeen past eight the week in Review with 1441 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 2: two degrees fighting for fear for Kiwi Business. This is 1442 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 2: this answers the question if you've got a strong and 1443 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 2: stable plant offlection movement in your foot combined with strong 1444 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 2: stable glutes, the sixty second single leg hold should be 1445 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 2: a breeze. I think I think I'd agree with that. 1446 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 19: It's probably true. 1447 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Hobby drives and Milk Tanker is working all weekend. 1448 01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 2: A friend is a nurse, same deal. 1449 01:07:59,520 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 1450 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 2: That's keeps the country going because somebody else goes come 1451 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,479 Speaker 2: on like it's a long weekend, Friday's extra. 1452 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 3: I would just. 1453 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 2: Say, Kate and I are all work, now, are we not? 1454 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 3: Kate? 1455 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 2: Is that we work the class. Don't pretend this isn't work. 1456 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 16: Don't tell that to Mark Mitchell and Jenny and Jenny Anderson. 1457 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 2: They're working this is. There's a whole chap from my 1458 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 2: book dedicated this is. This has been a joke. Now 1459 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 2: it's something like that. I'm at work today, Mike, thanks 1460 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 2: for asking. I can do you thirty seconds with my 1461 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 2: eyes closed. So Jamie is a hero. I stand on 1462 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,719 Speaker 2: one leg and swing the other backwards and forwards. I'm 1463 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 2: seventy seven and can do it indefinitely. Actually, the swinging 1464 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 2: makes it easier. I gotta say I'm doing it now. 1465 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 7: It's a lot easier when it's yeah, yeah. 1466 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:55,560 Speaker 19: I'm doing it. 1467 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 2: Does so seventy seven or not? It becomes ted. 1468 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 13: Right. 1469 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 2: Do you want to play a game of rank the scandal? 1470 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 19: Why not? 1471 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 2: There you go on, Okay, so Andrew Bailey, Darlene, Tana, 1472 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 2: Tory farn Now, one is the worst scandal of the week. 1473 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 2: Three is the non scandal. Tim ranked them. 1474 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 3: Okay, I'd say. 1475 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,799 Speaker 2: Darla, Darleen, Tory, Andrew. So Andrew is the worst scandal 1476 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 2: of the week. 1477 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 16: No, no, no, no, no, I'm going so I'm going 1478 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 16: for first number one. 1479 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,759 Speaker 2: You know, you always go three through one to build 1480 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 2: it up to something. So that's the leader. This is 1481 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 2: not the oscars. 1482 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 16: You about everything to Wilson, literally, is this what it's 1483 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 16: like for you? 1484 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 13: Kate? 1485 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 16: You have to litigate every single minor detail. 1486 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 2: It's it's scandal number three. 1487 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 16: Standing whilst while standing on one leg swinging the other one. 1488 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 17: The ludicrous. 1489 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 2: This is what makes this show fun. There is not 1490 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 2: a radio breaker. Bet your Morning Reports not doing this. 1491 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 2: I'll bet you know one. A Morning Report is on 1492 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 2: a single leg at the moment, So scandal number three, Tim. 1493 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 2: The least significant scandal of the week. 1494 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 3: Is Andrew Bailey. 1495 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 2: The second most scandal of scandal of the week is 1496 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 2: Tory Fano. The most scandalous scandal of the week, Tim 1497 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 2: Wilson of Grayland Auckland. I'm not graylen No. 1498 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 16: I just to build it up, all right, all right, Yeah, 1499 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 16: it's it's bal moral, all right. 1500 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 2: That was darling Tana, okay, Kate Hawksby of unknown address. 1501 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 2: The least significant scandal of the week is. 1502 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 19: The sorry I'm starting from third. The least angry Bailey. 1503 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 2: This should be a pre recorded segment so we can 1504 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 2: edit it up. You made and we can tighten it. 1505 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 2: It's you, You're the wrinkle. Edited it up. 1506 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 20: When you edit it up, cut this whole it out 1507 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 20: Andrew Bailey, Darling Tana, Tory Finel. I say, Tory Fanel first, 1508 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 20: because you single handedly have wrecked an entire city and 1509 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 20: killed a CBD and businesses are closing and people are 1510 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 20: leaving and students don't want to be there, and it's 1511 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,400 Speaker 20: just I know so many people affected by personally, it's horrific. 1512 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 20: What's happened to Wellington so and Darling Tana was really 1513 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 20: just an ongoing systemic failure on part of the on 1514 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 20: behalf of the Greens, which is to be expected. But 1515 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 20: ruining a city is unforgivable. 1516 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 2: That's a nice way of putting it. When you've ruined 1517 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:25,559 Speaker 2: a city, would I. 1518 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 16: Would say that I'm going to defend darl Darling Tana 1519 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 16: because Labor didn't do it with the Greshama National didn't 1520 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 16: use Walker jumping with Jamielee Ross and and the trigger. 1521 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 16: They pulled the trigger and also managed to eviscerate the 1522 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 16: possibility of the pacifica vote. The Professor Collins and I 1523 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 16: used to chat with him and he was like, this 1524 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 16: is where the Greens will grow. I think they've actually 1525 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 16: done themselves a terrible disservice. 1526 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 2: Okay, nice, nice, nice hot take. On that near the end. 1527 01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 2: You got a turntable, Tim You ever have a two 1528 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 2: about you? What about you? You know it's a good question. 1529 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,600 Speaker 2: I need to think about it. 1530 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 19: I do think. I do think we talked about it 1531 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 19: this week. I do think lux and missed the boat 1532 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 19: on the Andrew Bailey thinks he's got. 1533 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 20: To be he needs he needs to take a lesson 1534 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 20: from Winston. 1535 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 19: Shut it down. 1536 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,640 Speaker 20: And he just let that go and go and go 1537 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 20: because he's too nice, it's too corporate. Is to forget it, 1538 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 20: get savage, get in the gutter, go for the scrap. 1539 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,920 Speaker 3: So what would you to do? 1540 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:35,719 Speaker 16: Litigate it or or or like dropped, drop something on 1541 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 16: on Andrew Bailey? 1542 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 3: What would be the. 1543 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Take him out of him with some concrete slippers. 1544 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 16: Give the old give him the old, wet telephone book 1545 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 16: like the NYPD used to. You're wet the telephone book. 1546 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,840 Speaker 16: There's no bruises and you get a confession. 1547 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 2: Is that real? 1548 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 19: They just won't They won't across it like they should 1549 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 19: have been. 1550 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 20: They should have been all over it and stumped up 1551 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 20: day one and given the media all the answers they 1552 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 20: wanted and shut it right down instead of letting it 1553 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,679 Speaker 20: just litigate and litigating, go on and for us all witless, right, 1554 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 20: I gotta go. 1555 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 3: Have you said that? 1556 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 16: Well, the size of telephone books these days, it wouldn't 1557 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 16: be quite the same, that is true. 1558 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 2: Nice to see how you a good work with Tim, 1559 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 2: Tim Wilson, Kate hawks By A twenty two. 1560 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Brakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs. 1561 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 2: The Chemists Warehouse November catalog sale is on now. Great 1562 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 2: time to head in store or indeed online shop a 1563 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 2: huge range of those spring deals across Bartamin's Cosmetics, fragrance 1564 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,519 Speaker 2: and household essential So what have we got? Sunsilk, longer 1565 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,360 Speaker 2: and stronger shampoo and conditioner now only eight ninety nine. 1566 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 2: You can shop the Duve body wash one liter range 1567 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 2: now twenty percent off. If you want to renew and 1568 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 2: rejuvenate for timeless beauty, you can go to the Nattias 1569 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,200 Speaker 2: Ageless Skincare That range starts from just fifteen twenty nine. 1570 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: Whiley they pick up the Oral b Pro three hundred 1571 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 2: electric toothbrush that removes up to one hundred percent more 1572 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 2: plaque than the regular toothbrush, now only forty four ninety nine. 1573 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 2: If you're looking to improve the beauty the rest. Check 1574 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 2: out the Swiss Sleep range starts from just eighteen ninety nine. 1575 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 2: I got to be in quick though, because the Great 1576 01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 2: Chemists Warehouse November catalog offer must end twentieth and Novem. 1577 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 2: Do it and store at Geneerest Warehouse online if you 1578 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 2: like for stop paying too much with you know who, 1579 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,680 Speaker 2: give us warehouse Husking tails Mike, what's the angle of 1580 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 2: the league out front? Ninety or forty five? It's more 1581 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,880 Speaker 2: forty five than ninety. Very good question, though you can 1582 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 2: do ninety. You're doing well. Try one hundred and eighty. 1583 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 2: See how it goes. I've just had an ankle replacement, 1584 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 2: so I've only got one leg anyway, and I've got 1585 01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 2: a turntable and an old original Beatles and Motil forty 1586 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 2: five or Glenn, you're living the dream, an't it all? 1587 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,520 Speaker 2: Got it all going on? Scandal we've discovered in Australia 1588 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,440 Speaker 2: a review. Just Australia seems to be littered with scandals 1589 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 2: and skullduggery, doesn't it anyway? This is a community grant scheme. 1590 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 2: It's the funniest thing. They give money to MPs who 1591 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 2: hand the money out in their local electorates. And they 1592 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 2: wonder why it all goes wrong anyway, Murray Hold's on 1593 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 2: this in a couple of moments after the news, which 1594 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,400 Speaker 2: is next year at news Talk ZB. 1595 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The 1596 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 1: mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover, the lad designed. 1597 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,839 Speaker 2: To intrigue and use talks Mike and joining your program 1598 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 2: this morning standing on one leg, No problem, I'm eighty two. 1599 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,680 Speaker 2: I also trained Mark Mitchell. Well, that's good. Give us 1600 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 2: your name, we'll put it to Marke and Cevie. He 1601 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 2: remembers you morning, Micah c lux and ribbed the UK 1602 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 2: Prime Minister about the America's Cup result? Did he call 1603 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 2: him a loser? Very good? Twenty three minutes away from nine. 1604 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,759 Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind 1605 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 1606 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 2: Right, No, Murray Old, how are you feeling, Michael? 1607 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,719 Speaker 3: Very good morning, pretty good? Thank you this Friday morning. 1608 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 2: I just love the way you guys run the country. 1609 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,640 Speaker 2: Camden MP Selly Quinnilde who gave seventy five thousand to 1610 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 2: the Camden Musical Society, an organization she co founded. What 1611 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,479 Speaker 2: could correctly? What could possibly go wrong? 1612 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,519 Speaker 3: Mate? This is as old as politics, isn't it. 1613 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 21: I mean, look, labor here in New South Wales went 1614 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 21: to the twenty three state election promising four hundred k 1615 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,599 Speaker 21: for every MP now on both sides of the of 1616 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 21: the House, but four hundred k towards local community projects. Well, 1617 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 21: who would see anything going wrong here? 1618 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,680 Speaker 3: I mean, as you. 1619 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 21: Say, you know, the Camden Musical Society a very worthy organization. 1620 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 21: It does need seventy five thousand dollars of taxpayers money 1621 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 21: to get new Dunnies or whatever. 1622 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 3: It was a new coffee head. I don't know, but 1623 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 3: here we go. 1624 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,680 Speaker 21: And such was the stench arising from this that there 1625 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 21: was a secret review conducted by the state government and 1626 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,720 Speaker 21: lo and behold, we've got two projects that were absolutely 1627 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,879 Speaker 21: A further twenty eight were identified as having quote moderate 1628 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 21: probity risk unquote. You know, hello, this is all in 1629 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 21: the nine newspapers here in Sydney. The fact of the 1630 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 21: matter is that both sides have done this for a 1631 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 21: time immemorial. 1632 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 3: Right around the world. 1633 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 21: I think you'll find if there's taxpayer's money to be 1634 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 21: sloshed around, one sidell dole it out. It's called you know, 1635 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 21: it's just what's the phrase the phrase for it. 1636 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,839 Speaker 3: It's pork pork barreling. 1637 01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 21: There we go, and that comes I think from the 1638 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 21: the American Civil War. So anyway, look, yeah, there's been 1639 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,639 Speaker 21: a spike put through two of these projects completely, they've 1640 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,719 Speaker 21: been dumped others are now having another review. 1641 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 3: So it does stink, no doubt about it. 1642 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,720 Speaker 2: Tim Kraken Thorpe. The review found received campaign support from 1643 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 2: Connections and four of the nine organizations associated with a 1644 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 2: nominated projects. It's funny, that, isn't it. Speaking of queens 1645 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 2: on this weekend, the coalition got a wrong home do 1646 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:27,679 Speaker 2: you think. 1647 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,679 Speaker 21: Oh look, I think Labour's on the nose big time 1648 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 21: in Queensland and you know, the electoral cycles tells us 1649 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 21: that it is time for a coaling government up there, 1650 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 21: Conservative coalition government. But gee, where's the leader of the coalition, 1651 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 21: Chris A. Fuley. I mean, honest to God, I don't 1652 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 21: think you'd send them out to the Bunnings to make 1653 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 21: the sausages. He do something wrong with that on a 1654 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,719 Speaker 21: Saturday morning and the other sides know better. 1655 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just a basket case. 1656 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,680 Speaker 21: Queens And in the same way as Victoria's a basketcase. 1657 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 21: Both labor administrations and they're bloody hopeless. They've bankrupted this 1658 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,759 Speaker 21: and like so often happens, they outspend and outstayed. They're welcome, 1659 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 21: they've outspent the money that they had available. And you 1660 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 21: know each state now is in trouble and I think, yes, 1661 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,839 Speaker 21: Saturday tomorrow we'll see a thumping when for the coalition. 1662 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,760 Speaker 2: The Kim Williams bloke. Do you know him at all? 1663 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,720 Speaker 2: Is he your name? But I don't know him personally, right, 1664 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 2: So anyway, he got speaking, he got made chair of 1665 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 2: the ABC. One of the first things he did was 1666 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 2: he gave him a good rack up and he said, 1667 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 2: this far too much fluff on your website. Tight and 1668 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,920 Speaker 2: tidy it up, tighten it up and get a bit serious. 1669 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,720 Speaker 2: And they did. And I note the figures out this 1670 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 2: week indicate they've gone back to the number one read 1671 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 2: website in Australia. So he's probably onto something, wasn't he. 1672 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 3: Well he is. 1673 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,840 Speaker 21: And you know a lot of people are saying here 1674 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 21: because I worked for the ABC, I do three days 1675 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,680 Speaker 21: a week here trying to keep the news afloat on 1676 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 21: the only old person in the news and the rest 1677 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 21: of them just left school. And what Kim Williams has 1678 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 21: done has come in and he's kicking backsides all over 1679 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,960 Speaker 21: the place and people say, was that's not the chairs job. Well, 1680 01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,879 Speaker 21: he's arrived. After twenty twenty five years working for Rupert Murdoch, 1681 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,800 Speaker 21: he's been involved in the arts, he's run Opera Australia. 1682 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 21: He is a serious player, a big player across many 1683 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:13,280 Speaker 21: many platforms, and he has arrived. The managing director is going. 1684 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 21: A bunch of other things have happened. He's got rid 1685 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:23,320 Speaker 21: of the Radio National Morning breakfast presenter Patricia Carvellis. He 1686 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 21: says he wants news to get serious again. He wants 1687 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,280 Speaker 21: all that fluff, as you say, off the website. You 1688 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 21: know who cares about Duckling's making it safely across the road. 1689 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 21: We're more injured in the bloody Middle East. But all 1690 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,280 Speaker 21: that fluff was getting up there and now the website 1691 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 21: has come back. But gee wiz, I don't know if 1692 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 21: it's the same over home in New Zealand. But you 1693 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 21: look at radio newsrooms around the place. There's no one 1694 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 21: left anymore, there's no money. 1695 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:45,599 Speaker 3: Getting put into it. 1696 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 21: No one appears apparently appears to care less about news. 1697 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,519 Speaker 21: So I think Kim Williams is going to be a 1698 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 21: breath of fresh air at this place. 1699 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,640 Speaker 2: Interesting and Lydia performed well this week, didn't she What 1700 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,240 Speaker 2: a classic she is my home world. 1701 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:58,439 Speaker 3: Well, she's just a buffoon. 1702 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 21: I mean she you know, And I'm in no way 1703 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 21: am I trying to be disrespectful to a female politician. 1704 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 21: But she just does herself no favors by looking like 1705 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 21: a big goose in Parliament, screaming at the King lad 1706 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,080 Speaker 21: and then this nonsense about I didn't swear allegiance to 1707 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 21: the queen's heirs. I swore allegiance to her hairs until 1708 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 21: she realized that quarter million dollars a year salary might 1709 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:19,679 Speaker 21: be at risk. 1710 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,480 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I misspoke. 1711 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,919 Speaker 21: It was a bit late because the opposite, the Federal Opposition, 1712 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 21: has referred her off to the presiding officers of the 1713 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,240 Speaker 21: Senate and they're going to have an inquiry apparently into 1714 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 21: whether or not she should be sacked. I mean, she 1715 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,240 Speaker 21: is an unfortunate look for her, it's unfortunate. 1716 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 3: Look. I think her heart's in the right place, but 1717 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:39,120 Speaker 3: she just behaves like I. 1718 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,639 Speaker 2: Just don't know how to behave herself. This dune thing 1719 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 2: with the nuclear and it's really interesting because I don't 1720 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 2: know if you're following this, But these data centers, we're 1721 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 2: big in New Zealand on wanting to be a host 1722 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 2: of data centers. And so you've got your Google's and 1723 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 2: your Oracles and all those guys. They are now building 1724 01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 2: nuclear reactors, their own nuclear reactors mini or doing deals 1725 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,559 Speaker 2: with nuclear providers to run these things because the power 1726 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 2: require is so vast that no grid can handle it, 1727 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 2: which brings us interestingly to you, because of course we 1728 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 2: can't get through the winter at the moment, far less 1729 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 2: a data center without having power problems in this country 1730 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 2: because we just don't have enough renewables and all that 1731 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 2: sort of stuff when we're importing more coal than we 1732 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 2: ever have. But of course you've got to hold you 1733 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 2: got a slightly different view of that, haven't you. I mean, 1734 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,000 Speaker 2: you boot, you do booon coal, and you seem happy 1735 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 2: enough to with a general view to in the long term, 1736 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,640 Speaker 2: maybe you know, putting it to one side and you 1737 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 2: using a bit of window or whatever whatever else. 1738 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 21: Well, that's right, I mean, the renewables is here, the 1739 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 21: whole renewables, a suite of renewables is here to stay. 1740 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 21: I think that's you know, no one's arguing against that, 1741 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 21: but how we get to that point. 1742 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,120 Speaker 3: That's where the argument is over here. 1743 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 21: We've got a fleet of ageing coal fired power stations 1744 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 21: that basically are now clapped out. 1745 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 3: They're fifty sixty years old. 1746 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,959 Speaker 21: And you know, Peter Dutton wants to have the coalition 1747 01:21:54,680 --> 01:22:01,639 Speaker 21: building seven nuclear reactors. The CSIRO is Australia's number one 1748 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 21: science agency, says, well, you won't get that up and 1749 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,600 Speaker 21: running for absolute decades. 1750 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:08,799 Speaker 3: Will the opposite? Joyous? 1751 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 21: We will, And the head of the Australian Energy Regulator says, well, 1752 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 21: guess what. The power stations are going to be clapped 1753 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,640 Speaker 21: out long before any atomic energies online, and you know 1754 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,759 Speaker 21: it's going to have to be a gas transition. Well, 1755 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 21: you know the Greens hate that. So you know where 1756 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,879 Speaker 21: do we go from here? We too have power supply 1757 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,280 Speaker 21: problems in Australia and you look at the vast amounts 1758 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 21: of coal that are here. Yes, you know, and coal 1759 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,639 Speaker 21: fire power stations will be used as long as they 1760 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,840 Speaker 21: can go, but there's no appetite to spend money to 1761 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,839 Speaker 21: maintain these things, to pour you know, millions and millions 1762 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,479 Speaker 21: of dollars into these old plants because they're going to 1763 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 21: be bugging up next week? 1764 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 2: What are you going on for the weekend? Something cool? 1765 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,719 Speaker 3: I will be watching the All Blacks play Japan. 1766 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 2: Rather it'll be and by how many do you reckon? 1767 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,080 Speaker 3: Well, you know you'd think against that rebel. 1768 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 2: Thirty or forty fifty. 1769 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon twenty five to thirty points. I should 1770 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 3: do it. 1771 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 2: We'll all right, might go well. Seen ext Friday for 1772 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 2: you was always Murrayolds, the Mighty Murriolds, the Fabulous murray 1773 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,720 Speaker 2: Old six footy. No, it's not. What do I say? 1774 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,599 Speaker 2: They keep making the time up? Eight forty five. 1775 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard 1776 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,080 Speaker 1: By News Talks. 1777 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,759 Speaker 2: A'd be by from nine. One of my favorite parts yesterday, 1778 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 2: the Kamala Harris thing is always my favorite part of 1779 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 2: the end of any of those things, whether it's a 1780 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 2: debate or a town hall seeing in Headless Bloke, I 1781 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 2: can't remember his name, but Daniel Dale, and he's a 1782 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,080 Speaker 2: nerdy wee bloke. Any fact checks everything. The key to 1783 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,639 Speaker 2: why it went wrong yesterday for Kamala is in basically 1784 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,640 Speaker 2: his opening sentence. But let's fact check it. 1785 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 22: Well, there wasn't a ton to fact check tonight. Aeron, 1786 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 22: Vice President Harris's comments were mostly a general or biographical, subjective, 1787 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,639 Speaker 22: or just accurate, but she also made at least one 1788 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 22: false claim, one i'd call an exaggeration, plus a couple 1789 01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,400 Speaker 22: others that I think left out key context. So first, 1790 01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 22: let's listen to acclaim the vice president made about her 1791 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 22: policy shift on fracking. 1792 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 2: And you point out too, when you're running for vice 1793 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 2: president in twenty twenty, you were not talking about banning fracking. 1794 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,719 Speaker 4: But no, no, no, Anderson, I pledged that I would 1795 01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:12,120 Speaker 4: not ban for. 1796 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 22: I know it is not true that Harris pledged in 1797 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,799 Speaker 22: twenty twenty that she would not ban fracking as president. 1798 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 22: Nowhere in it did Harris say she had changed her 1799 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,720 Speaker 22: own previous twenty nineteen support for a fracking ban. What 1800 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 22: she did say in that debate twice was that Joe 1801 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,040 Speaker 22: Biden the head, would not band fracking himself. Now let's 1802 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,599 Speaker 22: listen to something she said tonight about former President Trump's 1803 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 22: border wall. 1804 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,360 Speaker 4: Remember Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it. 1805 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,320 Speaker 19: Come on, they didn't. 1806 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 4: How much of that wall did he build? I think 1807 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 4: the last nim VERUSA I was about two percent. 1808 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,800 Speaker 22: It is true Mexico didn't pay for the wall. That 1809 01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,280 Speaker 22: two percent figure, though, is at least somewhat too low. 1810 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 22: Trump repeatedly said on the campaign trail in twenty fifteen 1811 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,040 Speaker 22: twenty sixteen that we need one thousand miles of wall, 1812 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,880 Speaker 22: and during his presidency, fifty two miles of new wall 1813 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,680 Speaker 22: were built where no wall existed before, So even that 1814 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,439 Speaker 22: is more than five percent of pledge. And he also 1815 01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,440 Speaker 22: built an additional four hundred and six miles to reinforce 1816 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 22: or replace previously existing border barriers, so I think you 1817 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,280 Speaker 22: could argue it should count too. 1818 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:10,599 Speaker 3: Now, finally, let's. 1819 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 22: Play something the vice president said about Trump's twenty seventeen 1820 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 22: tax cuts. 1821 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,639 Speaker 4: Sadly, Donald Trump, when he was president, gave tax cuts 1822 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,599 Speaker 4: to the richest, to billionaires in big corporations, which added 1823 01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,520 Speaker 4: trillions of dollars to our deficit. 1824 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,720 Speaker 22: It is absolutely true that, according to independent analysts, the 1825 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 22: wealthiest Americans got the biggest benefits from those Trump tax cuts. 1826 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,360 Speaker 22: So this Harris claim is not false. But I think 1827 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 22: it's worth noting something she didn't mention, and that's that 1828 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,360 Speaker 22: Americans of all income levels got tax cuts from this 1829 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 22: twenty seventeen law. Estimated that about sixty five percent of 1830 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,960 Speaker 22: households would get a tax cut in twenty eighteen and 1831 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 22: between sixty and seventy six percent of taxpayers in each 1832 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:49,160 Speaker 22: and every state. 1833 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,599 Speaker 2: There we got fat chick Kamala Harris saying in town hole, 1834 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,760 Speaker 2: she's I can't remember where she is today, but she'll 1835 01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 2: be in a swing site with Bruce Springsteen and Barack 1836 01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,559 Speaker 2: Obama and Willie Nilsen away. 1837 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 1: From nine, cost break visited with a vida retirement communities 1838 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:06,240 Speaker 1: use togs head. 1839 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,760 Speaker 2: Be living away from nine? How do you explain this 1840 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,360 Speaker 2: to me? The weirdest thing I read this week was 1841 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,800 Speaker 2: the number of emails Australians sent each day. How many 1842 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,680 Speaker 2: emails do you reckon are sent each day in Australia? 1843 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,799 Speaker 2: This is like the New Zealand Lolly contest. The answer 1844 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,439 Speaker 2: is eight point one billion per day? 1845 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,759 Speaker 7: So person or what per person? 1846 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 2: Or just no? Not no, well because lot I'm working 1847 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,680 Speaker 2: from home as long weekend stuff like that. So if 1848 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 2: you then divide the eight point one by the let's 1849 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,439 Speaker 2: call it twenty six, I know it's heading towards twenty 1850 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,800 Speaker 2: seven billion, but on twenty six So eight point one 1851 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 2: billion divided by twenty six million, obviously you come to 1852 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 2: what three hundred and seven is the answer? You come 1853 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,559 Speaker 2: to three hundred and seven emails per day. Now, take 1854 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 2: out anyone below what seven years old, maybe eight or nine, 1855 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,759 Speaker 2: but you're taking at least a million or two people out. 1856 01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:02,599 Speaker 2: Take out the people what ninety two plus who aren't 1857 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,800 Speaker 2: really into emailing much anymore. You're down to maybe twenty 1858 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 2: million people. So you're up at four or five hundred 1859 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 2: emails a day. And then there are many people, of course, 1860 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,800 Speaker 2: who go, that's absurd. No one sends four or five 1861 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 2: hundred emails a day, so take them out. There must 1862 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 2: be people sending literally thousands of emails every day. How 1863 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 2: do you explain that? 1864 01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 7: I mean, it's all the marketing ones and stuff obviously, right. 1865 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,800 Speaker 2: Every day I turn up, see I reckon, I get 1866 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,679 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty to two hundred a day. That's 1867 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 2: just me, and I delete every single one of them. 1868 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,479 Speaker 2: If first thing I do in the morning when I 1869 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,840 Speaker 2: arrive is click click click click delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, 1870 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,720 Speaker 2: delete delete. But that's an astonishing number, isn't it? Five 1871 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:39,879 Speaker 2: minutes away from nine. 1872 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Trending Now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year. 1873 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 2: Round, we spam automated advertorial subscriptions. That's probably a fair point. 1874 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,400 Speaker 2: So what we've got coming up is the Mike Tyson 1875 01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,400 Speaker 2: Jake Paul boxing match. If you got excited that got 1876 01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,120 Speaker 2: canceled or postponed because something happened to Tyson, get second 1877 01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,759 Speaker 2: a plane and then you got sick on a plane. Anyway, 1878 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,400 Speaker 2: So Tyson v. Paul, so to get your fizzed. Netflix 1879 01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,880 Speaker 2: is releasing a three part behind the scenes doc out. 1880 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 2: They've called it Countdown. 1881 01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:08,280 Speaker 19: V. 1882 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 2: Tyson. 1883 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,280 Speaker 3: I won't do anything if I don't ri being embarrassed. 1884 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,639 Speaker 1: Being Mike Tyson, fighting the vision I had. 1885 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,600 Speaker 17: It's within me to be a fighter, to be a disruptor. 1886 01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 14: Mike, I love you, but I'm gonna take your thrown brother. 1887 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,639 Speaker 3: He the manufactured to kill it. I'm a natural one killer. 1888 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 17: Mike is the greatest heavyweight of all time in my opinion. 1889 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:33,800 Speaker 3: But it's my. 1890 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:38,519 Speaker 1: Time be in good shape because your health depends on it. 1891 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,639 Speaker 14: We're going to war and he's getting knocked out. 1892 01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,640 Speaker 3: That's really big for me. If I win, I'll be 1893 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 3: in more of If I do it, Dad, I don't 1894 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,519 Speaker 3: want to die who I want to die in the ring. 1895 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,280 Speaker 1: I will be the new face of boxing. 1896 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 3: I started JACOBV and I'm gonna finish him. 1897 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't think you need that's true. I don't think 1898 01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,240 Speaker 2: he's gonna be the new face of boxing if he wins, 1899 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,880 Speaker 2: and I don't think Mike Tyson's going to be immortal 1900 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 2: if he wants. I think that's just a pile of crap. 1901 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:05,439 Speaker 2: What a waste of time? 1902 01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 7: Can they both die in the ring? Can we make 1903 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:07,679 Speaker 7: that happen? 1904 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,400 Speaker 2: Hadn't thought about that? Sign of it? Good point. I 1905 01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 2: met Jake Paul. He was friendly seventh of November for 1906 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 2: the first two episodes of the Behind the Scenes thing, 1907 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 2: and the twelfth of November for the third. And then 1908 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,680 Speaker 2: if you've watched that and thought, yep, I'd really like 1909 01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,920 Speaker 2: some more where that came from. Please the actual fight's 1910 01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 2: the fifteenth their first ever boxing match. And if they're 1911 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,599 Speaker 2: as good at streaming live boxing as they were at 1912 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,280 Speaker 2: whatever the awards ceremony did, they don't have a hope 1913 01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 2: because they were useless. You have a fabulous long weekend 1914 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:48,560 Speaker 2: and we will see your Tuesday as always. 1915 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1916 01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 1: news talks they'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1917 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.