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Speaker 1: Barry sofas back in the building. Very good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Well, I left the building three months ago, Ryan, and

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Speaker 2: it seems as though honestly sitting here that have never

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Speaker 2: been away.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking I was here filling in for

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Speaker 1: Heather when you left.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's right.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird little merry go round.

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Speaker 2: She was doing the parental leave then and I was

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Speaker 2: doing it the last three months. And I've got to

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Speaker 2: say I loved it. I loved it with a three

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Speaker 2: year old and a little one now was six months. Fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And I'd recommend to any mail if they can do it,

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Speaker 2: do it, because you get much more out of it

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Speaker 2: than you would ever think you would get.

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Speaker 1: You're not worn out, best.

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Speaker 2: No, I just love it, even though you do get

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Speaker 2: worn out. I really love it.

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Speaker 1: Ye're nice.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: The government is bringing Reviving back from the dead polytechs.

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Speaker 1: Ten of them will return from January first.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible, isn't it really? When you think to pukinga

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Speaker 2: was Chris Hopkin's brainchild, and you know he went on

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Speaker 2: and on about it. It was going to come under

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Speaker 2: one governing body run from Wellington, and that's what happened,

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Speaker 2: of course, and it was set up, no doubt, at

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Speaker 2: great expense. I haven't got the numbers in front of me,

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Speaker 2: but now we're going to have regional polytechs back again.

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Speaker 2: There used to be sixteen or now be ten. So

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Speaker 2: there'll be a few that will fall by the wayside

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Speaker 2: note up merge with others. But the prime min is

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Speaker 2: to hear outline the rationale for the restored regionally governed polytechs.

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Speaker 3: Areas will mean that decisions once again are made closer

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Speaker 3: to the people that they affect. And that's what regional

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Speaker 3: strength looks like, not decisions handed down to them from Wellington,

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Speaker 3: but real input from local leaders, local employers and local educators.

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Speaker 3: Let me be clear, this isn't just about structures. It's

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Speaker 3: about outcomes, better outcomes for the more than two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty thousand students participating in vocational education each and

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Speaker 3: every year. These changes are designed to make the system

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Speaker 3: more flexible, more financially sustainable, and more relevant to employment

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Speaker 3: opportunities available in each region.

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Speaker 2: I think that last point is the point that employers

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Speaker 2: have been complaining that people are going through polytech and

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Speaker 2: they're not being they're not studying what is required in

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Speaker 2: the region. I mean like the Otago polytech had home brewing.

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Speaker 2: Now you and I would have loved to have gone

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Speaker 2: to that, that course that had hip hop at one

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Speaker 2: stage somewhere as well, I seem to remember.

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Speaker 1: And the other problem they had with tapuking is you

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Speaker 1: go and market these these polytechs to the world and

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Speaker 1: no one knows what tapooking is, you know, So they

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Speaker 1: had this problem of what the hell is that.

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Speaker 2: It's good for the international student driving.

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Speaker 1: Exact fantastic, Hey, the UN being accused of interfering in

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Speaker 1: our sovereignty.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I think I think David Seymour is

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Speaker 2: right in this. I mean I looked today and I thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, this greater morphous body that you've been to

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Speaker 2: I've been to many times at the UN General Assembly,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you look at it and you

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Speaker 2: think this is such a vast structure. Well it's fast,

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Speaker 2: all right, because I looked up how many employees the

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Speaker 2: UN has. It's got wait for it, a hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand thousand employees around the world. But in New

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Speaker 2: York alone, at the secretariat there, they have about the

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Speaker 2: size of the population of Upper Hut, thirty seven thousand people.

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Speaker 2: Are working there in New Zealand, we contribute about fifty

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Speaker 2: million dollars a year, but it was New Zealand. Of

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Speaker 2: course that can take some blame for the UN, not

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Speaker 2: for the way it's totally impotent at the moment, but

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Speaker 2: it can take some blame because we were one of

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Speaker 2: the original founders of the United Nations in nineteen forty

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Speaker 2: eight when it was set up. But the point is

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Speaker 2: that a Special Rapporteur has written to the government a

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Speaker 2: chapter the name of Albert bah Rum and he said

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Speaker 2: he's concerned about the Regulatory Standards Bill. He said it

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Speaker 2: threatens Maldy specific laws and addresses structural inequalities and he says,

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Speaker 2: for example, land, language and environmental stewardship are all at

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Speaker 2: risk because of this. Well, basically David Seymour says, mind

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Speaker 2: your own bloody business, don't involve yourself and our sovereignty.

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Speaker 2: And you know we don't have to sign up to

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Speaker 2: any indigenous people's rights and in fact, even though we've

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Speaker 2: signed it, we don't have to implement it. By Lord

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Speaker 2: John Key talk long and hard about that when he

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Speaker 2: was Prime Minister, and I think mister Bahroom should become

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Speaker 2: more familiar with what New Zealand and what our status

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Speaker 2: is when it comes to the UN.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know, there's one big job and it's world peace.

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Speaker 1: Focus on maybe focus on that.

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Speaker 2: Tell Donald Trump not to continue his bombing.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got a date for the by election.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, September the sixth, And I'm heartened by the fact that.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know her at all, but a former

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Speaker 2: journalist and broadcaster Ireny Kuiperra. You remember she got into

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Speaker 2: some trouble for wearing a mochu or she got it

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Speaker 2: done and some people were saying she shouldn't be presenting

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Speaker 2: the news. I think she was working for TV three

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Speaker 2: for a while at the time.

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Speaker 3: She was here.

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Speaker 1: She was at TV and Z when the complaints rolled

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Speaker 1: out about the time, and then she moved to TV three.

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Speaker 1: I worked with her for a couple of years. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: brilliant woman.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm heartened by the fact that she's going if

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Speaker 2: she does get to represent it, and I have my

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Speaker 2: doubts about that. To Henard is back in the race and.

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Speaker 1: He lost Penny.

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Speaker 2: Well he penies sorry exactly Toes come out of the

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Speaker 2: depth recession of the Far North. But no, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: hanare Penny, henare he's going to stand. He only lost

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Speaker 2: the seat by forty two votes the last time he

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Speaker 2: had held it for more than a decade, So look,

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Speaker 2: she's going to have a better trouble. But if she

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Speaker 2: does get in, let's hope she can breathe some media

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Speaker 2: sense into the Moldy Party and tell them what they

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Speaker 2: should and shouldn't be doing when it comes to public perception.

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Speaker 1: She's a really steady pair of hands, Like she's not.

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Speaker 1: She's not one to get carried away with emotion. She

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be one to be to be following the co

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Speaker 1: leaders into the depths of a protest or test. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I actually think it would be really interesting to see how.

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Speaker 1: I hope that she does win, just because I like

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Speaker 1: her and she's a friend. Don't you like Penny He's

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Speaker 1: all right, he's all right, But I like order anymore.

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Speaker 1: But I'd just be really interested to see what the

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Speaker 1: multi party Malori would look like with her sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, at the front of it. Yeah, just a

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Speaker 1: completely different Politic's a.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful woman, that's what you're trying to say. She is.

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Speaker 1: She's a beautiful woman. She's got a really good heart. Yes, good, Hey,

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