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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try the truck to

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Speaker 1: ask the questions, get the answers, find a fag sack.

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Speaker 2: And give the analysis. Heather Do for cy Ellen.

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Speaker 1: Drive with One New Zealand and the Power of Satellite

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Coming up on the show, Erica Stanford on her

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Speaker 3: immigration changes, Scotty Hanson, the All Blacks assistant coach, on

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Speaker 3: whether We're gonna win this weekend, and Chris Bishop on

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Speaker 3: his plans to densify Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Heather Do for cy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to suggest that Erica Stanford is on

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Speaker 3: the right track with wanting to make it easier to

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Speaker 3: deport criminals, but maybe she doesn't go far enough. So

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Speaker 3: at the moment, the rules are that we cannot deport

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Speaker 3: criminals if they've been here on a residence visa, so

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Speaker 3: they've been residents for more than ten years. Example of

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Speaker 3: this is the Mumma Hooch brothers. These guys are not Kiwi's,

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Speaker 3: you know the ones I'm talking about done in christ Church.

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Speaker 3: They're not Kiwis, they're Assi's. They don't have citizenship here,

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Speaker 3: they don't have Kiwi passports. But even though they are

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Speaker 3: two of the country's worst sexual offenders. We cannot put

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Speaker 3: them back to Australia because they've been here in New

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Speaker 3: Zealand as residents for longer than ten years. Now, Erica

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Speaker 3: Stanford is proposing to change the rules so that that

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Speaker 3: gets moved out to twenty years for anyone who's committed

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Speaker 3: a serious crime like murder, rape or manslaughter. Now, I

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Speaker 3: would say scrap the time limit all together. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter how long you've been here twenty years, twenty five years,

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Speaker 3: thirty years, fifty years. If you decide that you want

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Speaker 3: to rape or kill someone, you go home. You lose

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Speaker 3: the privilege of being here. Maybe we need to look

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Speaker 3: outside of rape and murder and manslaughter as well. Perhaps

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Speaker 3: we have lower time limits for other crimes, but time

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Speaker 3: limits all but further than ten years, if you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, we take a line on those crimes,

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Speaker 3: we'll push it out a little bit further. Because the

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Speaker 3: key here is that it is a privilege. It's a

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Speaker 3: And I suppose what I'm suggesting is that we take

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Speaker 3: other countries criminals much as I don't always love what

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Speaker 3: looking after other countries criminals, So I reckon no time

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Speaker 2: Duples Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two is the text number. Okay, get ready

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Speaker 3: to make room in your house for meat balls and

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Speaker 3: billy bookcases. Ikea has revealed it's going to open its

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Speaker 3: doors in time for Christmas on Thursday, the fourth of December.

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Speaker 3: Johannah Sir Deeluv is IKEA's market manager. Hi Johannah, Hello,

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Speaker 3: Hi mate, just before Christmas. It's going to be mental,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be really cool. I can't wait. It's

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Speaker 4: super exciting. Have been super excited to announce the Day's

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Speaker 4: three months to go and then fourth of December we're

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Speaker 4: opening our doors at s Agia Sylvia Park as well

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Speaker 4: as the online shop for all kivs around the country.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, it feels I want to come as

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Speaker 3: when do you reckon it's the best time to come?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Kind of after Christmas? When things have calmed down for

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Speaker 3: those of us who want to avoid the crowd.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure you will find a slot already earlier.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully you'll find a good moment during the days,

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Speaker 4: for example, So we will we will be sure that

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Speaker 4: we don't open on the opening day exactly on a

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Speaker 4: course if you want to wait for a couple more days,

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Speaker 4: then you can start shopping via online. We can either

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Speaker 4: up from a couple pickup points that mainfreight is providing

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Speaker 4: it from the garage of the store very convenient directly

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Speaker 3: Brilliant, Now have you got Is this going to be

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: So in IKEA we have a mandatory range reaching a

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Speaker 3: And have you got everything that you need to get going?

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Speaker 3: Because I think the other day you had about oh,

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Speaker 4: No, we're actually today already over two hundred cowork pers

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Speaker 3: What's your tip? What is the item we have to

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good question. There's plenty, of course, it's

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Speaker 4: plenty of plenty of course. But I personally I love

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Speaker 4: our packs wardrobe. It's so convenient, so stylish and can

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Speaker 4: there's multiply different items, like our textiles is super durable

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Speaker 4: and beautify. So yeah, you just need to come and

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Speaker 4: see and you will notice it yourself. What will be

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Speaker 3: I google the Pax wardrobe. That's a fantastic tip. Actually

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Speaker 3: great for Yeah, great, I can just see that fitting

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Speaker 3: in the house already. I'll have to come. Okay, now,

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Speaker 3: consenting and stuff. Would you get frustrated by that? Process.

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Speaker 4: We have been super happily helped with Auckland Council and

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Speaker 4: all the neighbors and our collaborative partners. We're super excited

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Speaker 4: that we now are on track on our opening and

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Speaker 4: are way on the way.

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Speaker 3: So that's of course very good news, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you caught this. We discussed this

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Speaker 3: aware Ike has made that list.

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Speaker 6: You know that.

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard about that, to be honest.

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Speaker 4: That's brilliant if we if we even made it on

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Speaker 3: Joanna, thank you very much, Joanna said de lerf is Ikes,

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Speaker 3: but definitely not wasn't going to take the bait. A

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Speaker 3: Judith Collins, by the way, is just completed a top

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Speaker 3: secret visit to Ukraine's capital, Keev just popped up there.

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Speaker 3: I think it's one of those jobbies where, you know,

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Speaker 3: Ukraine during the war, anywhere where they might become a target,

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Speaker 3: they fly them in under you know, under basically a

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Speaker 3: I think she's probably departed already. She's gone there obviously

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go, We're gonna get crusher in her combats.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean, she's gonna look she's

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Speaker 3: gonna look mean as they're gonna give her that jacket again,

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Speaker 3: didn't get the combat fatigues out. She just went in

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Speaker 3: her standard Wellington wear, just a dress, blue dress, black jacket,

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Speaker 3: black sensible shoes, dark glasses. I mean it was cut

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Speaker 3: a fine figure. But yeah, mister trick, go on, then

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Speaker 3: let me do it. She wasn't gonna take the date,

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Speaker 3: but I was.

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Speaker 3: Oh hither the irony of a Maori Party MP making

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Speaker 3: racist statement. We are going to get to that because

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions about that. Eighteen past

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Speaker 3: four Darcy water Grave Sports Talk coasters with me. Hello, Dues,

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Speaker 3: good evening, go through the squad. Let's assess this before

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Speaker 3: we do that.

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Speaker 8: Can I just tell you what you're going to do

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Speaker 8: with getting to the TV this weekend?

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Speaker 9: Please?

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Speaker 8: R eighteen of course beat responsibly. I just say, you know,

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Speaker 8: Duck blew off my face and I lost everything, which

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Speaker 8: At the end of it, South and went up and

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Speaker 8: upset White at the then Philly Shields. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 8: so let's just keep it simple this time. Yep, dollar

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Speaker 8: fifty five the All Blacks?

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Speaker 8: I think it's two thirty, I think off the top

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Speaker 8: of my head, but I'm not really interested in them.

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Speaker 8: I also like the idea of malting up like heart

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Speaker 8: I'd like to see Canterbury pick up the shield the

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Speaker 8: All Blacks win. I'd like to see Routcliffe, Routliffe and

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Speaker 8: Dorosky pick up the doubles in the US Open. I

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Speaker 8: want to see Liam Lawson finished top ten. I'm thinking,

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Speaker 8: did you learn nothing last week. You just keep it

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Speaker 8: nice and simple. Dollar fifty five. The all Blacks get

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Speaker 8: it done nice and easy. There you go, rat Bet

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Speaker 8: responsibly of course.

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Speaker 3: So Quartez is injured after all, very how badly?

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Speaker 8: Well's but you can train? But can you take a

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Speaker 8: fend to the sternum from a bit of South African

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Speaker 8: beefcake that's like a one hundred and twenty kgs No,

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Speaker 8: you can't. It'd break your ribs. And you know how

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Speaker 8: painful of broken ribbers? What about a broken joined them altogether?

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Speaker 8: So he's not there, Finnly, Christy will get the roll.

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Speaker 8: It will be fine. He's in there, Kyle pressing off

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Speaker 8: the bench, geet, what a way to debut. But the

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Speaker 8: team itself that has come out it is reasonably sensible.

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Speaker 8: You reckon, and I'm happy about this. They've made some tweaks,

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Speaker 3: this is not even the most racist thing the Marti

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather duplic Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else News talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Heather. I'd vote for any party that took Australia's policy

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Speaker 3: on that is the immigration policy. That's the one where

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They're going to make a decision by Monday. And he

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Speaker 3: I've had a guts full, you're off to final arbitration.

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Speaker 3: Both of you agree to it.

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand has said yes, they're up for it.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't look at the stage that we've heard from the

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Speaker 2: It's the World wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: At least fifteen people are dead in Lisbon after a

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Speaker 3: not clear what calls the crash, but the carriage was

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Speaker 3: That was Putin. That's a bit creepy, isn't it. That's scary.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 3: Mariol's OSSI corresponds with us.

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Speaker 7: Mus Hello here they're going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Any updates on this chap who's been running around in

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Speaker 7: Does he Freeman know? There's not there's a bit of interest,

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Speaker 7: I must say, renewed interests in his wife. Apparently she

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Speaker 7: They're still looking for him. Day nine. It was day ten,

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Speaker 6: Day take on this is this?

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Speaker 3: When does this get embarrassing for the cops?

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Speaker 7: Well, look, he may be dead, he may have taken

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Speaker 7: There are all sorts of abandoned mine shafts, there are caves,

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's this robodebt update?

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Speaker 2: Well, the government.

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Speaker 7: Just go back to the start. Under Scott Morrison, there

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Speaker 7: Now under Scott Morrison's leadership, that was the algorithm used

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Speaker 7: Australian dollars now that you know, if the Federal Court

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know, he's a bit like Bob Catter.

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Speaker 7: Perhaps they're just too old and he shouldn't go to

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Speaker 7: out swinging against Anthony Alberesi's decision to formally recognize the

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Speaker 7: mister Howard have signed a joint statement saying they're absolutely

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Speaker 7: is a betrayal of Israel by Australia. According to mister Howard,

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Speaker 7: the only democracy in the Middle East now is under

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Speaker 7: threat from Australia. It's all about, he says, domestic political gain,

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Speaker 7: maybe a shred of truth more than that, but reducing

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Speaker 7: statehood to a prize that can be simply handed out

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Speaker 7: at the whim of any political leader. I'm not sure

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Speaker 7: where this has come from or why it's come at

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Speaker 7: this particular time, but certainly John Howard's come out swinging

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Speaker 7: against Anthony Albanezi.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that, much appreciate it. Murray Old's Australia Correspondent,

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Speaker 3: nineteen away from five.

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Speaker 2: Ever, do proceed, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Update on the mushroom Chef Aaron Patterson, So such as

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Speaker 3: the interest and what's going to happen to her that

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Speaker 3: for the first time ever, the Victorian Supreme Court is

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Speaker 3: going to live broadcast her sentencing. Unfortunately, though, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be nothing. You know, how you get the live

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Speaker 3: you get the live trials in the States. I'm thinking,

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Speaker 3: oh J. Simpson was one of them, wasn't it. Where

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Speaker 3: it's all like it's really intense and extraordinary and fun.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be anything like you're not going

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Speaker 3: to be able to sit there and go popcorn, gobble gobble.

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Speaker 3: It's only unfortunately going to the camera is going to

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Speaker 3: be focused on the judge, so you're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: be really committed, like really committed to the story to

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Speaker 3: sit there for half an hour at the very least,

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Speaker 3: because the judge, because the judge reckons the broadcast, reckons

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Speaker 3: the closing remarks. Justice Spiel reckons closing remarks are going

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Speaker 3: to be thirty minutes with Justice Biel says, thirty minutes.

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Speaker 3: You want to double that. You want to at least fifteen,

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Speaker 3: You want to at least fifty percent, so you want

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Speaker 3: to go forty five. And then you know, it takes

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Speaker 3: it takes a hell of a long time to get

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Speaker 3: everybody called all stand judge is late call all stand

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Speaker 3: judge comes in, sit down, you know, like that whole

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Speaker 3: kerfuffle around it and everybody rise and all that, and

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Speaker 3: then somebody will cry in the court and upter she.

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Speaker 3: You know, it'll just it'll take a long time. It'll

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Speaker 3: be an hour on a locked off shot of the judge.

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Speaker 3: But if you're into it. If you're into it, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not not that much Monday, that's when you want

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Speaker 3: to tune in here the what kind of whiskey are

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Speaker 3: you giving away? I'm not well, am I though? Am

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Speaker 3: I giving? Are you sure I'm giving away whiskey? Because

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Speaker 3: I have taken the bet that the spring Box are

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Speaker 3: gonna win, and Elliott has taken the bet that the

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Speaker 3: All Blacks are gonna win. I'm not, I'm not all.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I reckon. This is one of those ones that could

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Speaker 3: could all just happen on the day, couldn't it. But

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Speaker 3: if I was giving away whiskey, at least if Elliott's listening,

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Speaker 3: you better be buying me this one. It's the Scapegrace

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Speaker 3: and it's the Fortuna. Now, if you like your whiskey,

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Speaker 3: if you like your whiskey. You need to try the

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Speaker 3: escape Grace for Tuna, because I am something of I'm

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Speaker 3: not like, I'm not a whiskey nose like j Cinda

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Speaker 3: is and how she's like, I've got all the collection

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Speaker 3: of the whole whiskey, and I'm like, I'm not like that,

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Speaker 3: not a clown about it. I just like a good whiskey.

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Speaker 3: And I reckon without a word of a lie, that

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Speaker 3: this is probably one of the this is it's definitely

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Speaker 3: the least when we make the whole country. I reckon

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Speaker 3: it's the best New Zealand whiskey. Now the word of

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Speaker 3: a lie, it's probably one of the best ones I've

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Speaker 3: ever tried. I'm I'm more of the peat bet so

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Speaker 3: I like a leg of vulin, do you know what

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Speaker 3: i mean, Like, I'm leaning towards that kind of a thing,

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Speaker 3: like I can still what's that other one that smells

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Speaker 3: like Pete hard Out it's famous for it, you know,

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Speaker 3: the one I'm thinking of the white bottle, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. I lean that way, So this

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Speaker 3: is what I'm into. So anyway, yeah, sure, I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: don't worry about it if you feel if the South

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Speaker 3: Africans win. And you've just been taking a silent beat

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Speaker 3: with me this whole time, going I bet you, Heather, well,

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Speaker 3: you just send that Scapegrace for tuna in. Don't worry

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Speaker 3: about it. I'll happily take it off your hands.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen away from five politics with centric credit, check your

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Speaker 1: customers and get payment certainty.

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Speaker 3: Here the pocono whiskey? No, not that one, not that one.

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Speaker 3: And actually I still and I've tried it. I'm still

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Speaker 3: telling you now the scape Grace beats that thirteen away

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Speaker 3: from five? Very so cool and agree more?

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Speaker 7: Do you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? No?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Is that why the pocono is still sitting there with

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Speaker 3: about it an inch left in the bottom.

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Speaker 8: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: You drank I'm a bottle, but you left the inch,

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Speaker 3: So I don't think I drank most of the bottle.

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Speaker 11: To be perfectly on, I think I've only had one

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Speaker 11: or two of the pokono ones, yes, but certainly the Scapegrace.

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Speaker 3: What have you got written on the top of your page?

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Speaker 2: La freud?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? That is the one you were looking for one?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: So what's going on with the racism?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I mean it is an.

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Speaker 11: Election campaign, and I thought Takuta Ferris he's always running

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Speaker 11: on at the mouth making mistakes, so whenever he enters

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Speaker 11: into the fray, and he should never have been poking

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Speaker 11: his nose into the tumacking mccauldo by election anyway, but

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Speaker 11: nevertheless he did, and that post I think was offensive.

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Speaker 11: He said it blows his mind Indians, Asians, Blacks and

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Speaker 11: paki a campaigning to take a Maldy seat from Maldy.

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Speaker 11: And then he had emojis with his head exploding and

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Speaker 11: looking confused. While he's a confused man about politics, I

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Speaker 11: think he doesn't understand the basic tenants of the business.

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Speaker 11: Willie Jackson certainly said the post by Ferris is out

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Speaker 11: of line.

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Speaker 13: It's totally unacceptable and really it's showing huge disrespect to

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Speaker 13: those people who will support Maori. You know, we don't

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Speaker 13: apologize and Labor for working with our different electorates, some

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Speaker 13: of them Yeah, ethnic Pacifica.

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Speaker 6: We think it's great.

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Speaker 13: May've got strong Maori membership, but one of the things

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Speaker 13: in Labor is everyone's contributing and it's not just about

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Speaker 13: mild it's about at it's about New Zealand. So it's

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Speaker 13: really disappointing from him. He should know better.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think certainly Penny Henan, I would think would

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Speaker 11: be odds on favorite. If you're looking at the tab

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Speaker 11: lay money on him.

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Speaker 8: I'd so.

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Speaker 11: It seems that Ferris's political boss, Debbie Narriwa Paka, she

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Speaker 11: agrees with Willie.

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Speaker 14: It's a style of politicking that we don't like and

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Speaker 14: we're not good at doings. So please forgive us. We're

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Speaker 14: now Fino are human and really trying to say why

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Speaker 14: are we fighting general role or general electorate? In peace

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Speaker 14: and all of this and so anyway the media and

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Speaker 14: of course guess who the first one was?

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Speaker 2: New Zealand hero couldn't wait to jump up.

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Speaker 14: They've been dying to jump up and finds us slip up. Well,

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Speaker 14: guess what We're going to slip up numerous times in life.

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Speaker 14: And my uttle heart for all the offense caused.

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Speaker 3: Grovel, grovel, something funny is going on here. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is the party, Barry, this is a Marti party.

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Speaker 3: Hoove accused the government of genocide who regularly use I

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Speaker 3: mean the other day I saw a photograph of one

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Speaker 3: of them posing with a pistol. I mean, for God,

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Speaker 3: sat and happy to say bizarre things about superior DNA

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Speaker 3: and their policies how have completely unapologetic for all of that.

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Speaker 3: So why are they suddenly apologizing for this.

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Speaker 11: It's a by election and it's being held on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: But do they do they think that they're going to

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Speaker 3: repel their voters with something like this or can I

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Speaker 3: give you?

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Speaker 15: Can I get?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 9: I think they do repels.

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Speaker 3: Is it possible that Labor and the Marori Party have

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Speaker 3: realized that in order for the two of them to

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Speaker 3: be a credible alternative for government, that kind of racist

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Speaker 3: crap has got they have to tone. Are we actually

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Speaker 3: seeing that the start of the Marori Party being a

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Speaker 3: bit responsible?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 11: I don't think. I think after this, after the by

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Speaker 11: election's over, it'll be back to business as usual.

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Speaker 3: Oh I thought I thought this was I thought with them,

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Speaker 3: this was this was them leading up to responsibility in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. No, I wouldn't know. Okay, Hey, so

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Speaker 3: Judith Collins has been in Ukraine.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, one of these top secret meetings. I've been on

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Speaker 11: a couple to Iraq and to Afghanistan after the Taliban

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Speaker 11: got out of there. So they are top secret. They're

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Speaker 11: quite fun to be on if you're a journalist. And

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Speaker 11: she did take one or two journalists with her. I think,

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Speaker 11: because you have to be sworn to secrecy, you can't

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Speaker 11: allow anyone to know where you're going, what's happening. And

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Speaker 11: so that's what happened. She went to Keiv, which is

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Speaker 11: pretty you know, pretty dodgy place at the moment, but

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Speaker 11: Crusha Colin, she went there as defense minister. She met

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Speaker 11: her Ukrainian counterpart, she met the foreign affairs minister in

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Speaker 11: the country, and you know, good luck to her. And

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Speaker 11: I think the solidarity that New Zealand showing to Ukraine,

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Speaker 11: I think is very important. And just by the way,

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Speaker 11: here there's relation to Ukraine. Now, I think there's a

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Speaker 11: bottle of gin that you owe me, because I was

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Speaker 11: reading today that neither Zelenski nor Putin appear ready for

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Speaker 11: direct talks about another meeting, and that comes from Trump himself,

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Speaker 11: So it's he said, that doesn't appear to be really,

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Speaker 11: they don't appear to be ready for direct talks as well.

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Speaker 11: That means that means that Putin has bloody taken advantage

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Speaker 11: of Trump.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you are correct, okay, And I have made my

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Speaker 9: escape grace, and I do.

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Speaker 3: Owe you a bottle of I was far too optimistic

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Speaker 3: about Trump's ability to pull something like this off. He

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Speaker 3: has failed, has he not?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. Barry very sober, senior political correspondent, right

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Speaker 3: away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakbait.

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Speaker 16: The Housing Minister wants the potential for two million more

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Speaker 16: homes in Auckland.

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Speaker 9: Local MP David Seawalls with US.

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Speaker 17: I talked to people at the Herald who say that

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Speaker 17: the most read story last week.

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Speaker 2: Was about this topic.

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Speaker 17: That if you go to the Auckland Council website, the

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Speaker 17: thing that people are most interested in as one of

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Speaker 17: the most hidden things.

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Speaker 2: My challenge to Auckland Council is ratepayers paid for these maps.

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Speaker 17: You've been preparing them since April and then you released

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Speaker 17: them after Parliament voted on the legislation, but chose to

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Speaker 17: prepare a plan that you used for your purposes, but

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Speaker 17: not so informed public debate about and I think that

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Speaker 17: as Shane fall, they should put it on the front

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Speaker 17: page of the website.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow at six am. The mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Raindrover News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Good call from Audrey Young four away from five. Very

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Speaker 3: good call from Audrey Young again Audrey is known for this.

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Speaker 3: She does a weekly newsletter in the Herald and it's

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Speaker 3: worth checking out, full of politics and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: She mentioned the drama it's going on over in Australia

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Speaker 3: with the neo Nazi Thomas Sewell, and then she pointed

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Speaker 3: out that you know Andrew Bolt who's on Sky TV.

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Speaker 3: She pointed out that he had the audacity this week

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Speaker 3: to suggest that Australia ends up with the worst New Zealanders,

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Speaker 3: and she retorted, we know how you feel, Andrew. Two words,

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Speaker 3: Brenton Tarrant. Good from you, Audrey, very nice. Now listen

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Speaker 3: to this, hang on with it. Yeah, that that's my knuckles.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what that is? That is a gigantic nang.

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Speaker 3: You know how I was talking to you about the

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Speaker 3: nangs the other day about how the kids that was

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Speaker 3: it yesterday? It was yesterday, wasn't it. Yeah, So talking

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Speaker 3: about how the kids are not doing the little nangs anymore.

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Speaker 3: They're doing gigantic nangs, like massive nangs like this nang.

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Speaker 3: This nang is like the size of when you go

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Speaker 3: scuba diving and you have one of those those things

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Speaker 3: on your back, the little tankies on your back. That's

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Speaker 3: how big that is. Anyway, there is a yarn. Let

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Speaker 3: me tell you there's no way that this is being

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Speaker 3: used for whipping cream. This is definitely being used for

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Speaker 3: sucking in and getting high. Anyway, I have a yarn

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Speaker 3: as to how I have ended up with a nang

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Speaker 3: on my desk covered in mud, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: tell you that yarn before the next hour is through.

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Speaker 3: So stand by, but Erica Stanford, hold on, it's actually

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Speaker 3: really bloody heavy because it's full. We thought it was empty,

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Speaker 3: but it's actually full. Is this illegal? We don't know.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if it's illegal what we're doing right? Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it's there. Erica Stanford's with us next, and then Simon Brown, the.

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Speaker 1: Only drive show you can try the truck to ask

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Speaker 1: the question, get the answers, find and give the analogy.

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Speaker 1: Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and

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Speaker 1: the Power of Satellite Mobile News doorgsp Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: The government's proposing to step up its deportation game. Currently,

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Speaker 3: we can't deport criminals if they've been residents of New

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Speaker 3: Zealand for more than ten years. A proposed law change

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Speaker 3: would extend that to twenty years. Erica Stanford is the

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Speaker 3: Minister of Immigration High Erica. Hey, how are you would this?

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Speaker 3: I'm well thank you? Would this allow us to deport

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Speaker 3: the Mama Hooch brothers.

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Speaker 18: That's exactly where this started from. It's a pretty disgusting

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Speaker 18: case and the fact that they've been here for longer

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Speaker 18: than ten years means that we are unable to deport them.

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Speaker 18: And this is where all this work started from, which

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Speaker 18: is just toughening up to make sure that we can

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Speaker 18: deport people who have committed serious sexual and violent offenses.

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Speaker 3: So you're extending it to twenty years. Have those boys

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Speaker 3: been here less than twenty years?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: Are we going to be able to get rid of them?

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Speaker 18: Well, this will be one of the we won't be

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Speaker 18: in this case because it's not retrospective. This will be

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Speaker 18: future focused. But there will be a question for the

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Speaker 18: Select Committee to work out whether or not twenty years

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Speaker 18: is the right the right number of years? I mean,

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Speaker 18: should it be longer? Should it be?

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Speaker 9: Whenever?

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Speaker 18: I've set it it twenty years? But are we very

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Speaker 18: interested to hear what the public's feedback is and their

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Speaker 18: tolerance for people who permit such crimes. You know, if

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Speaker 18: you've been here for thirty years or forty years or

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Speaker 18: does it not matter? So I'd like to hit a

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Speaker 18: public feedback.

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Speaker 3: I mean, isn't there a case Erica for actually, if

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Speaker 3: you haven't got citizenship, if you're on a residence visa

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Speaker 3: and you've been here sixty years and you decide to

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Speaker 3: kill somebody or rape somebody, you're out the door.

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Speaker 18: Well, yet, that is something we should definitely consider through

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Speaker 18: the select committee process.

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Speaker 3: How many criminals have we got in the country right

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Speaker 3: now who we'd love to be able to deport but

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Speaker 3: can't because of the ten year rule.

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Speaker 18: Well, that's a great question. There won't be many. They'll

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Speaker 18: probably just a small handful, I expect. I don't actually

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Speaker 18: know that, and it may be that Immigration don't have

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Speaker 18: those figures either, But certainly, moving forward, let's get them

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Speaker 18: on their bike.

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Speaker 3: So what did you make of that quite large number

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Speaker 3: of overstairs.

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Speaker 18: Well, it was a number I was expecting. I'd kind

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Speaker 18: of guessed myself that's where it would land. It is

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Speaker 18: really difficult to know what the actual figures have been

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Speaker 18: in the past. We've never measured it like this before.

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Speaker 18: There has been a number come in since the border

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Speaker 18: has reopened, and that was a product of the fact

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Speaker 18: that immigration New Zealand their systems and processes in terms

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Speaker 18: of proper verification and risk management were up to scratch.

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Speaker 18: They've certainly been tightened now, but it does mean that

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Speaker 18: they're going to need a few extra tools in the

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Speaker 18: toolbox to help move people on.

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Speaker 3: Why have we got so many American overstays, it's just

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Speaker 3: a proportion.

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Speaker 18: We have a lot of Americans come in and visit

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Speaker 18: like we do a lot of Chinese as well, So

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Speaker 18: when you actually look at it by percentage of people

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Speaker 18: who come in, it's very different. The Americans drop right down.

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Speaker 18: There is only point one four percent of Americans who

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Speaker 18: overstay their visas, so it's actually quite low.

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Speaker 3: Well, somebody suggested that it was because of McMurdo stations.

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Speaker 3: So they come into the New Zealand, they fly down

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Speaker 3: to Antarctic, you don't have to get anything stamped on

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Speaker 3: the way to Antarctica, and then they go over to

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Speaker 3: McMurdo and perhaps exit through Chili or something and never

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Speaker 3: never officially leave New Zealand.

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Speaker 18: I'll look into that. I'm not sure that's the case.

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Speaker 18: We've got quite sophisticated data monitoring now, so I'll look

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Speaker 18: into it. But I'm not sure that's the case, Erica.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Erica Stamford, Immigration Minister. She's trying to tell

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Speaker 3: me I was wrong, but being kind about it. The

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Speaker 3: numbers are twenty one thousand overstays. The top three countries

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Speaker 3: where those overstayers are from Tonga with two thousand, six hundred,

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Speaker 3: China with two thy six hundred and the US with

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Speaker 3: twenty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Good Heather do for ce Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Health Minister Simon Brown stepped in to sort out the

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Speaker 3: senior doctor strike. He's told both Health New Zealand and

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Speaker 3: the Senior Doctors Union to go to mandatory arbitration to

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Speaker 3: settle their seemingly endless pay dispute. Health New Zealand has

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Speaker 3: agreed Senior Doctors haven't. Simon Brown is with me now, Hi,

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Speaker 3: saman Good evening, Heather. This is unusual from a minister

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Speaker 3: to step in like this, isn't it?

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Speaker 19: Well?

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Speaker 5: It's been going on for twelve months now. Both parties

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Speaker 5: have not been able to come to an agreement. The

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Speaker 5: latest offer from Health New Zealand was rejected by the

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Speaker 5: union on Monday, and the union decided to meet mediately

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Speaker 5: ballot its members to go to strike later this month.

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Speaker 5: My view is that it's going to be detrimental to

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Speaker 5: thousands of patients who've been already waiting too long for care,

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Speaker 5: and so I've asked both parties to agree to binding

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Speaker 5: arbitration so that we can settle this without having further strikes.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can I just clarify though with you, because I've been

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Speaker 3: told ministers don't do this, So is it unusual?

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess it's unusual in that I'm asking both

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Speaker 5: parties to come to the party, come to the table.

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Speaker 5: But I have been saying that for some time, so

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Speaker 5: I've formally written to them, but I have been saying

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Speaker 5: for some time actually that we have to negotiate these deals.

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Speaker 5: Striking is not the answer. But look, this is a

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Speaker 5: pathway through. I've invited both parties to take part in

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Speaker 5: that with an independent arbitrator. I'm pleased at Health New

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Speaker 5: Zealand has agreed to that. I've provided a deadline of

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Speaker 5: four pm tomorrow for the parties to come back to me.

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Speaker 5: But ultimately this is about ensuring we can find a

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Speaker 5: way through where this is settled and agreed without dragging

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Speaker 5: on and without further impacts on patients who've already been

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Speaker 5: waiting too long for the care that they need weight

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Speaker 5: lists of ballooned. We're making good progress this year with

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Speaker 5: reducing those weight lists. We're seeing some good progress, particularly

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Speaker 5: with our elective boost. But if we have further strikes,

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Speaker 5: that is going to mean those weight lists will go

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Speaker 5: in the wrong direction. So we're trying to we're trying

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Speaker 5: to get away through this Listen.

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Speaker 3: Is that enough time four pm tomorrow? Because as far

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Speaker 3: as I understand, the union is still balancing its members

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Speaker 3: as to whether to strike, So they're not going to

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Speaker 3: have enough time to go to their members to ask

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Speaker 3: whether to go to final arbitration, are they.

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Speaker 5: Well, Look, ultimately, that's a question you'd have to put

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Speaker 5: to the union. I'm trying to urt a strike. If

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Speaker 5: they were to strike, patients would start having their bookings

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Speaker 5: canceled from late next week. And so we have timers

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Speaker 5: of the essence to actually agree a pathway through which

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Speaker 5: does not require further strikes and further cancelation of care

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Speaker 5: for paid So we have acted quickly. Time is of

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Speaker 5: the essence to ensure that patients can be put first

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Speaker 5: and that we can deal with this and make it

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Speaker 5: get find a way through and reach an agreement without

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Speaker 5: further strikes and impacts on patients.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so me and thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Simmy and Brown are the Health Minister?

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Speaker 2: Heather dopsy Allen, Heather, Why are.

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Speaker 3: The deportation changes not respective? It makes a retrospective It

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Speaker 3: makes no sense is because it's a very bad idea

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Speaker 3: to do anything retrospectively. That'll probably you could make it

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Speaker 3: retrospective if you wanted to, but generally that's not how

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Speaker 3: you make law. But can I say on some look,

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Speaker 3: can't deport the Jazz brothers And probably under the changes

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Speaker 3: as you heard from the Minister, will not be able

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Speaker 3: to deport the Jazz brothers anyway. But the good news

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Speaker 3: is that the Jazz Brothers will probably want to go

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Speaker 3: back to Australia when they get out of jail because

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Speaker 3: everybody knows who they are and they're not going to

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Speaker 3: be able to walk around and have a good time,

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Speaker 3: do you know what I mean. We're all going to

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Speaker 3: be like, oh, look, that's one of the Mama Hooch brothers.

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Speaker 3: So they probably want to go back to the country

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Speaker 3: of their birth. Anyway. That's the sound of the nang.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that fourteen par past five

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Speaker 3: big news for both business and nature lovers here One

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Speaker 3: New Zealand has just teamed up with the Department of

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Speaker 3: Conservation in a partnership that is all about protecting New

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Speaker 3: Zealand's unique biodiversity using the power of technology. So what's

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Speaker 3: happened is that DOC has named One New Zealand a

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Speaker 3: New Conservation national conservation partner in a collaboration that's expected

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Speaker 3: to direct fourteen million dollars into supporting and protecting nature

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Speaker 3: over the coming years. Now, this is basically thanks to

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Speaker 3: One New Zealand cutting edge satellite to cell tech. Basically,

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Speaker 3: what it means is the dock rangers are going to

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Speaker 3: be able to have better connectivity. They'll have safer field work,

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Speaker 3: faster data collection, smarter decisions in some of New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: most remote places. One New Zealand satellite text is already

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Speaker 3: proving really valuable in past where the dock rangers protect

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Speaker 3: the Kiwi. It allows them to keep in touch with base,

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Speaker 3: receive the weather updates, request help if they need it.

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Speaker 3: As One New Zealand CEO Jason Parris says, this is

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Speaker 3: about using technology to help preserve our natural heritage. A

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Speaker 3: powerful combo of business smart and environmental care, better connectivity,

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Speaker 3: better conservation. Just a win win for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duper see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen past five. Got a little update for you on

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Speaker 3: the city to see the hideous bridge in Wellington. Standby,

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Speaker 3: I'll run you through it. Eighteen past five Now the

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Speaker 3: All Blacks team to face the spring Box at Eden

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Speaker 3: Park on Saturday has been named. Finley Christie is going

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Speaker 3: to start a half back to replace Cortez Ratima who

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Speaker 3: is injured. Wallace the Titi will start at number eight

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Speaker 3: to Poe VII has moved from loose forward to Locke.

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Speaker 3: Scotty Hansen is the All Blacks assistant coach and with

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Speaker 3: us now, Hey Scotty.

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Speaker 6: The hell are you talking?

873
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 9: Well?

874
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Speaker 3: Thanks mate, it's good to talk to you again. How

875
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: injured is Cortez?

876
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 16: Yeah, injured enough not to play this one.

877
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 6: He wasn't far off at the time.

878
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Speaker 16: It was an injury we thought may have been a

879
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Speaker 16: little bit longer. But he's worked really well. He's given

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Speaker 16: himself an opportunity to be possibly available in the coming weeks.

881
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 3: Are you are you being because you guys are being

882
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: a little secretive about this A you are.

883
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 16: I don't think so that is it a customers of

884
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 16: what's that? Sorry?

885
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Speaker 3: What's happened to him? Is it a cut or a

886
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 3: sprain or is it a smashing of something?

887
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: What's happened now with.

888
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 16: Cortez, it's a upper body injury around the rib region.

889
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 16: And the medical advice there was in the cost of

890
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 16: muscle and the like, it wasn't an option this week

891
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 16: to play.

892
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: I regret asking you that question because I have no

893
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: idea what the.

894
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 16: And I was hoping I knew what I was saying

895
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 16: like there, but and neither do I. I'm one of

896
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 16: these coaches that is in or not so and at

897
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 16: the stage is not available fair enough.

898
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: Hey, Fabian Holland, what's he done to get put back.

899
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: On the bench.

900
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Speaker 16: Oh, he's played really well, so he's got the opportunity

901
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 16: to come from the bench. We just fell it with

902
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 16: this one. The experience that we have at our locks,

903
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 16: Fabian has done a great job for us. We know

904
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Speaker 16: we will give coming off the bench, so the opportunity

905
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Speaker 16: is there. And it's also one of those games here

906
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 16: that that is important how you finish, So he'll come on.

907
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 16: He'll give us a lot of power through the middle

908
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 16: and We've been really pleasantly what can I say that

909
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 16: really supportive around what he has done his first number

910
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 16: of tests. He's come on the scene really well. This

911
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 16: one for us coming off the beach, got.

912
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Speaker 3: Something special plan for Ardie's hundredths to test.

913
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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, he's a pretty special man. He deserves something special.

914
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Speaker 16: I think for us just focusing on this test and

915
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Speaker 16: winning some moments for Ardie. And we know Ardi is

916
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 16: a very special person, a special all Black, so one

917
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 16: hundred percent where we're going out there to put in

918
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 16: performance he can be proud of and it's it's important we.

919
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 7: Do that now.

920
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: Scotty, you know, fair to say bit of nerves, a

921
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: bit of nerves out there amongst the public about this one.

922
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: How are you guys feeling?

923
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 16: No, I think those nerves are fair, and especially when

924
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 16: you know we've just come off a loss and it's

925
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 16: fear to feel the nerves. We've got an Eden Park

926
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 16: that we're really proud of to play on. It's you know,

927
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 16: it's Steelbeck's playing at home essentially, and what that feels

928
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 16: like still backs sort of that feeling of coming home.

929
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Speaker 16: So it's fear to have nerves and to be fear

930
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 16: in our environment and it's been a week that's we've

931
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 16: been focused on the performance and winning moments, but there

932
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 16: should be some nerves there because it's a great opportunity

933
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 16: for us. So yeah, when the allback's a little bit

934
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 16: nervous around our week in the light, it's usually we

935
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 16: were about our best.

936
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Speaker 3: It's good and good insight. Scott a best of luck,

937
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: Scotty Hanson, All Blacks Assistant coach. Five two.

938
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: The day's newspakers talked to Heather first Heather du for the.

939
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Speaker 1: Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and the power of

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Speaker 1: satellite Mobile News doorgs Envy.

941
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: Heather Good on Simeon, I'm priority to and already on

942
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: a forty seven week wait when it should be six

943
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: to eight weeks. Thanks Amy. So five twenty four. You

944
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: want to know why he's called golden bulls. This is

945
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: why because Simon Brown has just very nicely snooked the

946
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: sing your doctors thinking about going on strike. He has

947
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: done something that's unusual for a minister and told both sides,

948
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: the doctors and Health New Zealand to go to binding

949
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: arbitration and they've gone until four pm tomorrow to decide,

950
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: and Health New Zealand has already said yes, we will,

951
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: because of course they have Simeon's their boss. And it

952
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: only leaves one side who hasn't said yes, and that's

953
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: the senior doctors. And they're in a pickle here because

954
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: they have to agree. If they don't, they're going to

955
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: look like they're playing silly buggers and not really trying

956
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: to get a deal, which has been going on for

957
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: a year now, this negotiation. Now, why would they want

958
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: to play silly buggers?

959
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 6: I don't know.

960
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: Let's think about it. Would it be that we all

961
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: of a sudden have the nurses union on strike, and

962
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: the secondary teachers on strike the union and now the

963
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: senior doctors union threatening to strike. Why would that all

964
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: of a sudden happen at once? Would it be if

965
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: you believe the government that maybe a couple of those

966
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: unions went on strike before even really putting their offers

967
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 3: to members or spending much time in negotiation. Why would

968
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: that have happened. Would it be because multiple strikes, one

969
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: after the other create the impression that things falling apart

970
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: for a government that is run by parties that the

971
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: unions are not really friendly with. Would it be that

972
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: calling strikes while other strikes are on puts the government

973
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: at a disadvantage politically and therefore more likely to just

974
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: agree to what you want. I mean, that's a smart

975
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: play from unions until it isn't until Simon Brown Snook

976
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: is one of them and makes them choose say yes

977
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 3: to arbitration and look like this really is just about

978
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: paying conditions for your members, or say no, call that

979
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: strike and look like you really are just playing silly buggers.

980
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 3: Do all right? The nangs here, it is okay, this

981
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: is what happened. Listen, there's my hard proof that I've

982
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: got in my hands. So what happened is Sam, the producer,

983
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: went for a drive last night at midnight, he tells me,

984
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: because he needed a cookie, as we all do, and

985
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: he says that he saw on the side of the

986
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 3: road a giant nang lying on the side. This is

987
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 3: the nangs that we were talking about on the show yesterday,

988
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: a giant nang just lying on this. I believe him

989
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: that that is what happened because it is possible to

990
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: spot the sly. It's giant. It's huge. It's like the

991
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: size of your forearm, but that as thick as your thigh.

992
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: Depending on how thick your thighs are and blue, so

993
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: you would have seen it. And it also he has

994
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: delivered it to me covered in mud, so I believe

995
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 3: that this is truly truly where he found the thing. Anyway,

996
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: he said to us, O, it's not empty, it's empty,

997
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 3: and it's broken. Well, we fixed it, didn't we? Somebody

998
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: here knows what to do and fix the thing?

999
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 9: And sure, and what do I do? And do I

1000
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 9: turn this?

1001
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: How do I make it open?

1002
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: What do I do? Am I doing it? Hey?

1003
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: What I'm trying? They said, I'm not. I'm obviously not

1004
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: a drug user because I'm trying to turn the thing

1005
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 3: open and I can't and I'm terrified it's gonna explode

1006
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: in my face. Anyway, we've confirmed that it's it is

1007
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: full anyway, So the point is simply and look at

1008
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: the thing. Is this is this is like now that

1009
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: I've seen it, right now that I've got it right

1010
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: in front of me, it is one hundred percent not

1011
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: for whipping cake cake cream.

1012
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 9: It is.

1013
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 3: It's got gangster writing all over it. It's a young

1014
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: people who want to get high on this stuff, and

1015
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: it's not made for boosting cars or anything like this.

1016
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: It is giant canisters of nitrous oxide that people are

1017
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: going to get high on. Sam, how do I open it?

1018
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 18: Here?

1019
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 15: Comes?

1020
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 3: Hold on, he's gonna run in. He's running in, Sam,

1021
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: do it?

1022
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 10: Do it?

1023
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 17: Oh?

1024
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 9: Oh oh, we're nearly there.

1025
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 6: Come on?

1026
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 9: Yes?

1027
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: And how follid is? Did you hear that?

1028
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1029
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: I can put it away now? All right, talk to

1030
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: you soon.

1031
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

1032
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: it's Heather duplic Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

1033
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: like no one else us talk.

1034
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 7: There'd be.

1035
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: Right after six. Christ Bishop is going to be with

1036
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 3: us on this housing text usht he's having with David Seamore.

1037
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: The huddles standing by just really quickly on the City

1038
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: to see Bridge in Wellington. The people who are trying

1039
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: to get the thing kept stop the council demolishing it

1040
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: have decided not to appeal. They haven't got enough, they say,

1041
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: and Wellington City Council does. But they are actually asking

1042
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: people to use civil disobedience. I'll give you a bit

1043
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: more on that shortly and we'll talk to the huddle

1044
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: about it right now. It's twenty four away from six. Now,

1045
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: as you know, it's been a lot of chat lately

1046
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: about shaking up the public service. It's been reported there

1047
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: are plans to merge the Ministry for Women, Pacific Peoples

1048
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: and Disabled People into other ministries and also this week

1049
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: the New Zealand Initiative recommended cutting the number of departments

1050
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Speaker 3: by half. Now, Sir Brian Roach is the Public Service Commissioner.

1051
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: Hi, Brian Good, how are you well?

1052
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: Thank you? So tell us are you getting rid of

1053
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: the Ministry for Women and the Pacific People's Ministry and

1054
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: the Ministry for Disabled People?

1055
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 19: No, that is not part of the plan. What the

1056
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 19: plan is designed to do is actually amalgamate existing agencies

1057
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 19: to give them scale and give them resilience so they

1058
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 19: have greater impact in the system. There is a view

1059
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 19: which I share that there are some agencies which are

1060
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 19: below critical mass. It's no fault of their own and

1061
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 19: we need to actually strengthen them and that's what we're

1062
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 19: going to do.

1063
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 3: But brand and will continue right, So these three are

1064
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: you going to put them together? You're merging them.

1065
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 19: It is one of a number of proposals which we're

1066
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Speaker 19: still working through. So like I'm not making any public

1067
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 19: announcements about who's in and who's out, but I was

1068
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 19: asked to look at better ways of running the public

1069
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Speaker 19: sector to get greater efficiency, greater sense of purpose and

1070
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 19: better customer citizen outcomes.

1071
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 16: And that's what I've been doing.

1072
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: If you merge them, do you merge the people's, the

1073
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: population ministries together or do you merge them into something bigger.

1074
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 19: The first thing is to merge them, is to consolidate

1075
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 19: to catch the scale that's required to be resilient.

1076
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Speaker 2: So you know where they all end up.

1077
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Speaker 19: And you know, I know this is incredibly unsettling for people,

1078
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 19: but it's unsettling to be doing what they're currently doing

1079
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 19: with ongoing budget cuts. They are reality of our life

1080
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Speaker 19: and we have to find a new way of conducting

1081
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 19: our business.

1082
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: And so are you just looking at these three that

1083
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: have gone public or are you actually open to something

1084
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: as big as the New Zealand Initiative has suggested.

1085
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 6: All options remain on the table.

1086
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Speaker 19: I mean, the initiative is one worldview. I think these

1087
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 19: things have to evolve. I don't look at this being

1088
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Speaker 19: a big bang in my own personal view, and these ultimately,

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Speaker 19: these are decisions and ministers, I think we need to

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Speaker 19: make some decisions about where we want to be in

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Speaker 19: five years time and actually orientate the system towards that

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Speaker 19: we don't want to go through big slash burn downsizing.

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Speaker 19: Those things are debilitating and I don't see those as

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Speaker 19: being required at this point.

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Speaker 3: Do you not think that, if you're doing this right,

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Speaker 3: if you are taking a big old look at it,

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Speaker 3: and you're considering all options, should we not also add

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Speaker 3: in the possibility that some of these ministries are no

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00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: longer required and we should scrap some of them. I

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Speaker 3: would argue the Ministry for Women.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, that's an argument that ministers will have. I'm playing

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Speaker 19: with the cards that I've got. Those ministries are seen

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Speaker 19: as critical. Their voice in the policy debate and their

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Speaker 19: voice to ensure that agencies are recognizing those constituencies remain

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Speaker 19: part of my claim cards.

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Speaker 3: Have you managed to get everybody back to work, back

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Speaker 3: into the office.

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Speaker 6: I haven't.

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00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 19: I haven't, unfortunately, But you know, we've talked about this previously.

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Speaker 19: Having people working from home makes sense in some circumstances,

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00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 19: but overwhelmingly fifty percent of public servants don't get that option. So,

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Speaker 19: based on my personal experience, I think we have a

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Speaker 19: very high number of people in the office.

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Speaker 3: And so what's the roadblock. Why haven't you been able

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00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 3: to get them back.

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00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 19: In because there are legitimate reasons for people to be

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00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 19: working from home. And you know, the whole policy that's

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00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 19: some objected to was you don't have it as of rights.

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00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 6: You do it with the authority of your right like.

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Speaker 3: What you're saying, as you're comfortable with the situation as

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 19: I am comfortable with it. But I think you know,

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Speaker 19: if you look globally, a number of businesses.

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Speaker 16: Have said you've got to be in the office every day.

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Speaker 9: We are not of that mind.

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Speaker 19: We don't think that's a point.

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Speaker 2: We need to get to.

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Speaker 3: Brian listen, really appreciate your time. Thanks so much, sir,

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Speaker 3: Brian Roach, Public Service Commissioner twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty find your

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Speaker 1: one of a kind.

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Speaker 3: I'm the Huddle of us this evening we have Mark Sainsbury,

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00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 3: broadcaster and Thomas Scrimger of the Maximum Institute. Hallo, lads,

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00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: Hello here though sains Oh, do you like those deportation plans?

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00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 10: Yeah?

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00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 15: Look at I mean some of the stuff is just

1137
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 15: pretty obvious, isn't it. Sort of things that have been

1138
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 15: slipping through and especially you, and I think it was

1139
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 15: the Jazz Brothers is what focused everyone's attention on this.

1140
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 15: That sort of people could be here and look out

1141
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 15: reasony the Aussie's seen to anyone who plays up back here.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a move in the right. It will

1143
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 6: be a popular move.

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00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I mean, Thomas if because we are far

1145
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: too soft if you think about it. The Aussies will

1146
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: only keep you if you're a citizen, whereas we keep

1147
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: you if you're a resident of more than ten years.

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00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: That's that's far too lax, isn't it.

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00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1150
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 20: Well, I think extending the length of time you know,

1151
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 20: people have been here and can still be deported is

1152
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 20: a good thing, and ultimately I think it probably doesn't

1153
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 20: even need to be a cat. I do think the

1154
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 20: Aussies go too far, perhaps with people who are sort

1155
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 20: of raised there from childhood, but we're not born there

1156
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 20: and so essentially all of their connections have only ever

1157
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 20: been a Ossie. They send them back to us and

1158
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 20: we're not that impressed. So I think, you know, when

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00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 20: the government looks at this, perhaps they might consider people

1160
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 20: who have had their childhoods in New Zealand as well

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00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 20: might be considered part of us. But you know what,

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00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 20: the other thing they're doing, which I thought was quite good,

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00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 20: was tiny I've strengthening some of the sentences for people

1164
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 20: who are exploiting migrants, so they might be Kiwi citizens

1165
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 20: who are hiring migrants and exploitive circumstances and keeping them here.

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00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 20: The migrant is committing an offense by overstaying, but so

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00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 20: is the employer. So I think that's another good move

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00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 20: that's been.

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Speaker 3: Where would you start the adulthood from.

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Speaker 20: Well, I'm not sure where I would start the adulthood from.

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00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 20: I think i'd have at sixteen, which the story about

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00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 20: where people are at back to school?

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon, Thomas, you've got here? After eighteen

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00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: you can go back?

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00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 20: Oh, actolutely could be even later than that. You know,

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Speaker 20: if someone moves here as a sixteen year old, perhaps

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Speaker 20: we'd say that actually they had a substantive experience in

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00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 20: their home country, which is the main thing, And there'd

1179
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 20: be a to what extent did they have agency in

1180
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 20: moving here versus where their child and do they have

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00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 20: experience of where we are sending them back to, because

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00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 20: if they are from a country, you know they were

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00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 20: born somewhere else, but they've never had any lived experience

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00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 20: there to send them over there is perhaps no okay what.

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00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 3: About this though? Saying so, so I grew up part

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00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 3: of my life in South Africa, right because a lot

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00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: of my mum's side of the family's from South Africa,

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00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: and we left for like my dad being ki, we

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00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: we moved between. But the last time that we moved

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Speaker 3: here was when I was twelve years old. You could

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Speaker 3: deport me to South Africa and I could pick my

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00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 3: life up. So maybe maybe we can make it from

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00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: if you were older than twelve, you're going home? What

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00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 3: do you reckon?

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Speaker 6: Jeevus, we would want you in charge of this. I

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00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 6: didn't think of it. Look yeah, look up.

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Speaker 15: And I agree with Thomas as well that we talk

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Speaker 15: about the five o ones. We certainly don't want that

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Speaker 15: situation here where were as Thomas, we're sending people back

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Speaker 15: to someone that have no experience.

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Speaker 6: So where do you set that balance? Yeah, and I

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00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 6: certainly think that if you come over here eighteen.

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00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: Or over well, I just argue twelve, what's wrong with twelve?

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 15: You came out here as twelve, and then twenty years

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00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 15: later you're getting sent back to where you came from.

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00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 3: I'm pleased. Do you only think I'm thirty two?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, But because if you've got family there, you can

1209
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: pick it up anyway. I think. Look, I think I

1210
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 3: need to be sent to the Select Committee. I'll I'll

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Speaker 3: mount a pretty good argument, Thomas. And you don't strike

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Speaker 3: me as somebody who's going to be into IKE, are you.

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Speaker 20: I'm not hugely into Ike.

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Speaker 16: You know.

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00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 20: I think the best way to get furniture is to

1216
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 20: get it. You steal at second hand off your family members.

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 20: Oh all for nature should be free is my basic take.

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00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 20: You know, don't want to spend money on furniture. There's

1219
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 20: other things to buy in the world.

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: Saying so, I thought he'd be a man who was like,

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00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 3: you know, no, it has to be antique or something. No,

1222
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: you're an antique man, no, aren't you saying so?

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00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 6: I like a bit of like I like a bit

1224
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 6: of deco stuff and whatever. I am dyed IQ the

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00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 6: open I used to go in the UK when I

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00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 6: was When I was over there, do you know what

1227
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 6: I found the most interesting? I found it about it?

1228
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 6: Though they were They were saying in the in the

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00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 6: release that they.

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Speaker 15: Had twenty eight dedicated motorbike parking spots.

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00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 6: Who's going to leave for thering home?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 6: What are you carrying home?

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00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: For?

1235
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 6: My ketified?

1236
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: But do you know what it might be saying? So

1237
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: because myself and Lawa of the German have figured out

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00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: because she's because she's from Europe, so they have i

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00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: KE al time, so she's already sussed this out. She says,

1240
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: what you need to do is go in and then

1241
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: just take photos of the things you want, then go

1242
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: home and order it online and get it delivered because

1243
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: you don't want to be slipping those boxes. So maybe

1244
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: that's what the motorbike people are doing.

1245
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 6: Maybe it's right.

1246
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 15: How do you get a mesic and seeing someone down

1247
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 15: with their sort of flat packed bed stretch.

1248
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 6: Step through?

1249
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: Weird? Do things have happened? We'll take a break, come

1250
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: back to you, guys.

1251
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: Quarter to the huddle with New Zealand southebyst International Realty.

1252
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: He's a global leader in luxury real estate.

1253
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: Listen, I have if you've got tickets to Snoop Dogg,

1254
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 3: I've got bad news for you. I've got potentially quite

1255
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: bad news for you. So stand by because we're going

1256
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: to talk about this urgently shortly. Thomas Scrimger and Mark

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00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: Sainsbury back on the huddle with us, Thomas, listen, I

1258
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: need to get to the bottom or something, Okay. I

1259
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: am curious about why the Maori Party has apologized for

1260
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: Takuta Feris being a racist when they've never apologized for

1261
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: being racists before. So what's up?

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00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 20: Well, I mean, obviously the comments were deeply offensive and

1263
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 20: to party. Mary may not be looking to win many,

1264
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 20: many votes from a wide range of ethnicities in this

1265
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 20: particular Marii Electric campaign. But if their goal is at

1266
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 20: the end of the day, and you know, after the

1267
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 20: next election and to form a government, it's going to

1268
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 20: be hard to form a government without having any Indian, Asian,

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 20: Black or Party Our voters on board. And so even

1270
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 20: if they're not pursuing those votes, certainly you'd think Labor

1271
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 20: and the Greens are getting very very nervous if their

1272
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 20: prospective coalition partners are alienating eighty five percent of the country.

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00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: So, Thomas, are you arguing that it is possible that

1274
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: maybe Labour has sat down with them and told them

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00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 3: to tone this stuff down.

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 20: I'm not sure whether it has or has not happened,

1277
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 20: but it should have if Labor is wanting to get

1278
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 20: into government, the media. New Zealand voter is going to

1279
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 20: be very worried if this kind of racialized language has

1280
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 20: any place in our politics. I don't think Kiwis have

1281
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 20: any interest in that kind of divisive rhetoric. So if

1282
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 20: Chrishipkins wants to form a coalition that has any possibility

1283
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 20: of getting anywhere, in any possibility of enduring, should it form,

1284
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 20: he should have called the T Party Malori leaders and

1285
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 20: read them the Riot Act.

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: What do you reckon sayin Zo?

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the whole thing is just not good,

1288
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 6: is it? You know?

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01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 15: And and what why are they're apologizing over this? And

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01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 15: they haven't apologized in the past. I think it was

1291
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 15: just so much in your face that they couldn't do

1292
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 15: anything about it. And I think that what he Jackson

1293
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 15: actually sometime he says that the guy needs to grow up.

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01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 15: I mean, what an absolutely stupid and offensive.

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01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: Thing to do.

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01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 15: And and this comes back to this is the big

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01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 15: problem that labor must be just so worried about that,

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01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 15: you know, come come the election, that's it. It may

1299
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 15: well be that the Maori Party could be deciding votes

1300
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 15: and how they're going to deal with that, how are

1301
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 15: they're going to you know they're going to have to

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01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 15: start calling them out and taking.

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Speaker 6: Them much stronger.

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Speaker 15: Welling in this case, they didn't need to because they

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Speaker 15: could step back, and because everyone else was going to

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Speaker 15: pile and and even another thing is wo he Jackson

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Speaker 15: says that he said the queen was not impressed.

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Speaker 6: Well, if that's true, that could well be another factor

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 3: Is the queen down at Coronahana?

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Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, yeah, well he's saying, he's saying he seems

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Speaker 15: side not only with his leader, but also with the

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Speaker 15: new queen.

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Speaker 3: Well it's not impressed. Well, then that tells you a lot.

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Speaker 6: Done that and Willie's never going to miss an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about the city to see I

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 3: feel like you like the city to see bridge, don't you?

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Speaker 9: I do the thing?

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Speaker 6: I just what I cannot get my head around was

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01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 6: all this how much they kept saying.

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Speaker 15: I mean, that's been around rage I you know, walk

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Speaker 15: around there and when you're going down the waterfront.

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Speaker 6: It's it's a great thing to have. But I just

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01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 6: can't understand why this thing is so.

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Speaker 3: Expensive, probably because it's just it's just cobbled together crap.

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Speaker 15: If you do a shitty job first, you're indy on

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Speaker 15: the tools here, Why don't you get down there, give.

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Speaker 9: Me a chainsaw.

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Speaker 3: I'm sort it out for really quickly.

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Speaker 6: Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Heart out, Thomas. Apparently what they want is everybody who

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Speaker 3: loves loves the bridge to go do some civil disobedience.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is going to happen?

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Speaker 20: Well, I don't know that they need to be doing

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Speaker 20: civil disobedience. I reckon a good old fashioned working bee.

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01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 20: Just get the gang together. Everyone brings their own hammer

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 20: and nails, and I reckon we can strengthen the thing up.

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01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 20: You know, back in the day, we didn't need to

1339
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Speaker 20: do these engineering reports and anything. Just everyone who loves

1340
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 20: the bridge, don't protest, bring yourselves. We can get it

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Speaker 20: squared away and I'm sure it'll all work out.

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Speaker 3: Not a bad idea. If you love it, pay for

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Speaker 3: the fix. Thank you so much for you to Thomas

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: scrimser Mark stains Breek. Listen, Snoop, We've got to deal

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Speaker 3: with Snoop. Next eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessyl and Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Hither did you know though, that nitrous oxide that's the

1349
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: stuff that's in the nangs. Did you know that that

1350
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 3: is highly flammable and you probably breached all sorts of

1351
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 3: company h and S rules health and safety rules? Loll

1352
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: Steve Lo Lo lull. I know, well, I didn't thank

1353
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 3: you for pointing that out after the fact. I didn't

1354
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: realize that, and I would have obviously not done that

1355
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: because I love health and safety. Five away from six now, yeah, okay,

1356
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: So myself and the perimenopausal women the concert club bought

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Speaker 3: tickets to Snoop Dogg. Well, we decided should we got

1358
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: a Snoop Dogg? And we were like, yeah, let's expand

1359
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: our horizons and go to Snoop Dogg with all the

1360
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: other hip hop kids. And when then we saw the

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Speaker 3: ticket price and we all paused, and when, guys, do

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Speaker 3: we want to pay that much for tickets? And the

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Speaker 3: tickets were two hundred and forty five dollars each two

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty How much did you pay Laura for

1365
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 3: two tickets to Coldplay? Was it one sixty three point thirty? No,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't that. It was two tickets. It was a

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Speaker 3: one sixty each. Oh okay, yeah, so she paid one

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: sixty each to go to Coldplay? Which are people who

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Speaker 3: are not stone on stage doing a stadium show, and

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Speaker 3: we have paid two hundred and forty five dollars each

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Speaker 3: to go to Snoop Dogg, which is definitely going to

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Speaker 3: be a crapper, a crapper experience because it's at the

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: Dewdrop Events Center in Manekow and as a stoner on

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Speaker 3: the stage, anyway, we decided we'll do it. We'll do

1375
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: as one of my friends said, you only live once,

1376
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: and let's be honest, if you're at the perimenopausal stage,

1377
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: not for much longer. So anyway, the problem is that

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01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: today we've discovered that the guy who was running it

1379
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: is the same guy who ran Juicy Fest and Timeless

1380
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: Summer Tour. Do you remember that scandal, because what happened

1381
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: there was everybody's really excited because that funny guy was

1382
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: going to come, you know, the one boy George, he

1383
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 3: was going to come, and all of these eighties musicians

1384
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: were going to come, and everybody bought their tickets and

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01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: then suddenly the event was canceled and no one's been

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01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: refunded for it yet, and then the companies went into

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: liquidation and the dude is basically running around with everybody's

1388
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: money aren't you, Peto Alvarez. Now, Peto, I know that

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01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: this explains a lot, mate, about why you're charging so

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Speaker 3: much for the why Snoop was like, Hey, it's August,

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01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: he's coming in September, buy some expensive tickets. If you

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Speaker 3: dick us around on this, Pato, if we get there

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01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: on that Saturday night and there's no Snoop Dog, mate,

1394
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: you are going to be this drive show's enemy number one.

1395
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 3: And I will make it my life's mission to get

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Speaker 3: my money back from you and everybody else's money back.

1397
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: So don't cancel the Snoop Dog Tour. I'm so worried

1398
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: about this. If you've got Snoop tickets, all I want

1399
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: to say to you is, if you've got Snoop tickets,

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 3: just make find something else that's happening in Manichow that night,

1401
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: so you've got a backup plant, because I feel like

1402
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: Peto is potentially going to let us down anyway. Chris

1403
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 3: Bishop Bush's birthday. By the way, it's turned forty two today.

1404
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 3: What a fun way to spend your birthday working. He's

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01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: with us.

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01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: Next, It's where Business Meets Insight Love.

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01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: A Business Hour with Heather dup c Allen and Mays

1408
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: for trust at Home Insurance Solutions.

1409
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: News Talk said b even in coming up in the

1410
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: next hour, Jamie McKay on Mike Joy the water guy's

1411
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: hanging comments, Sam Dickey on why September is making the

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01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: investors nervous and we have ended Brady doing the UK

1413
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: for us. It's coming up eight past six now. There's

1414
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 3: a bit of disagreement within the coalition. David Seymour has

1415
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: criticized Auckland's housing density plan, which makes it possible to

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: build up to two million homes in the city and

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Speaker 3: he's issuring the Housing Minister and the council Auckland Council

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Speaker 3: to rethink it. Housing Minister Chris Bishop is with us.

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Speaker 9: High bish, gooday start.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday.

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01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 21: Oh thank you very much. I hear Azario did a

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01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 21: little happy birthday thing for me.

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Speaker 9: That was very nice.

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01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 14: Have you heard it.

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Speaker 9: I have heard it, Yes, it's been sent to me.

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Speaker 9: It's very kind.

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Speaker 3: Let's all have listen. Let's all ever listen.

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Speaker 2: The Honorable Chris Bishop.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she hasn't got a future in music recording.

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Speaker 21: A probably not featuring little old Jerry Brownley. There it's

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 21: got a little cameo your former boss.

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Speaker 3: Now listen, are you prepared to budge on this?

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Speaker 21: Well, Parliament's hold Auckland Council to go and redo its plan.

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Speaker 21: And in fact, the reason Parliament's done that is because

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Speaker 21: Auckland Council wanted us to. They wrote to me around

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01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 21: a year ago and said, listen, we want to opt

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01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 21: out of the m d R s. Actually we campaigned

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Speaker 21: on that, so that's fine, so did act so to

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01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 21: national so that's all fine, and so we've given effect

1440
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 21: to their wishes. And they also said, look, we need

1441
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 21: to down zone around the flood is where you know,

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01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 21: post the floods, there's been a whole lot of new mapping,

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Speaker 21: so that's all good.

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01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 9: So we said that's fine.

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Speaker 21: And then we said, okay, but look, if you're going

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Speaker 21: to redo the plan, you've got to do more density

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01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 21: around the train stations, particularly the city railing stations, where

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Speaker 21: we're spending thick in to six billion bucks and the

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Speaker 21: council is up for that. So Parliament's legislated the plan

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 21: and now it's over to the council and they have

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01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 21: choices around where they where they.

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Speaker 9: Grow, but they've got to grow.

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Speaker 21: That's the sort of take home point you know, Aukland's

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Speaker 21: got to allow more housing, but they've got choices around

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Speaker 21: how they do that. They can do medium density, they

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Speaker 21: can do more apartments, they can do more terraced housing,

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Speaker 21: and they can do more green fields too.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is it not a dumb idea though from them to

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Speaker 3: chuck up multi story apartment buildings on pipes and roads

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Speaker 3: that can't handle the extra load.

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Speaker 9: Well, they just they won't be built.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 21: So that's the point is that this is a plan

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Speaker 21: for the long term. It's not a next year type plan.

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Speaker 21: It's a thirty year plan. So you know, as an

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Speaker 21: apartment building is it might be zoned, you know, it

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Speaker 21: might be the capacity might be there in a zoning sense. Right,

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Speaker 21: you can go and build an apartment, but if the

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Speaker 21: infrastructure can't cope, then it doesn't get built because you

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Speaker 21: can't build an apartment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but is there is there a kind of a

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Speaker 3: proviso that if you do chuck up this multi story building,

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Speaker 3: is there an obligation to then fix the pipes underneath

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Speaker 3: it to make sure it can handle.

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Speaker 21: Well's there's a sequencing issue right with between water Care

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Speaker 21: and the council and some of the other enabling infrastructure

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Speaker 21: that's required for that stuff. So the point would be

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Speaker 21: that over time, as the infrastructure goes in and water

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Speaker 21: Care has got huge plans and we just let them

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Speaker 21: borrow more money and give them a huge amount of

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Speaker 21: more debt, headroom and stuff which I won't go into.

1483
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 21: But water Cares got very in essential Intercept has just opened.

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Speaker 21: So there's a huge amount of more storm water and

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Speaker 21: waste water capacity coming into Auckland. But it's not all

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Speaker 21: going to happen immediately. There's a long term plan for

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Speaker 21: water Care over many years and as the infrastructure gets built,

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Speaker 21: the housing capacity is there and then the houses can

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Speaker 21: get built as well.

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Speaker 3: So it does, But does it necessarily go that the

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Speaker 3: infrastructure must go first then the houses, Well, yeah.

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Speaker 9: Because you can't.

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Speaker 21: You can't build an apartment that can't connect into waste

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Speaker 21: and storm water that isn't there. You know, it's a

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Speaker 21: sequencing of the coordination now and as I say, this

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01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 21: is a lot thing, it's a thirty year.

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Speaker 3: Think what about the allegation that David Cymore has made

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 3: that allcland Council is making it hard to find this

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Speaker 3: detail online.

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Speaker 9: Well, he probably is right about that.

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Speaker 21: I mean, it's a I think in the council's defense

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01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 21: without you know, I'm not here to defend the council.

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01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 21: But they put up the plans as a draft to

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 21: consult with the local boards and everybody else. But there's

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01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 21: formal consultation coming. This is like a draft of a draft, right,

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01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 21: So it's a draft of a draft. There's an actual

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Speaker 21: draft that will go out formally for consultation in September,

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Speaker 21: and then there'll be public consultation on that, and there'll

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Speaker 21: be hearings that people will be allowed to turn up

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Speaker 21: to and have their say and say, look, I don't

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01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 21: like this in my suburban this, you know this particular

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Speaker 21: streets and appropriate for this, and you know, there'll be

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Speaker 21: a bunch of experts will sit around and decide whether

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Speaker 21: or not that's legitimate or not. That's all going to

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Speaker 21: happen next year. So I suppose my point for people

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Speaker 21: listening is we're right at the start of the process.

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Speaker 21: People just need to tie home a bit. We're right

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Speaker 21: at the start of the process. It's a draft of

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Speaker 21: a draft, and people should engage and talk to the

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Speaker 21: councilors and talk to their local board representatives and engage

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01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 21: on what it all means. But Auckland's got choices, you know,

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01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 21: the council and the Council laws have choices around where

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Speaker 21: it grows.

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Speaker 9: But they've got to grow, you know that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to come down to nimbism, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Because nobody actually in a villa wants to have a

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01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 3: five to ten fifteen story apartment go up next door

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: and cast a massive shadow over you. That's what it's

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01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 3: ultimately going to be one or lost on.

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Speaker 9: Well, that that's some There are rules around that.

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 21: There are rules around shade and height to boundary ratios

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01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 21: and set back rules and all of that stuff that

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Speaker 21: the Council can and is setting.

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Speaker 9: So I don't think people should get.

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01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 21: Super alarmed about that, but but I understand that, I

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Speaker 21: understand the concern of some people.

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 9: People want to protect the character.

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 21: Actually, the special Character Provisions and the new Draft Plan

1539
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 21: are a four point five six percent reduction on the

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Speaker 21: PC seventy eight plan change seventy eight, which the Council

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 21: was having to do, you know, three or four years ago.

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Speaker 21: So this but there's a very more reduction. I'll accept

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01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 21: it's a reduction, but it's only four and a half

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 21: five percent, And actually you'd be surprised. I've had emails

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Speaker 21: from people who live in these villas in Auckland saying

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Speaker 21: this is really great. This is a great plan because ultimately,

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Speaker 21: I want my kids to have affordable housing. I want

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Speaker 21: to be able to see my kids and my grandkids,

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Speaker 21: and I want people to be able to live with

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Speaker 21: You don't believe me now, I've had emails about it.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to do?

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01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 3: You want to send us one redact the name and

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Speaker 3: send it to me.

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 9: I can.

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Speaker 21: I can happy to do that, and it's also fair

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01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 21: to say, and I will be completely honest. I've had

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01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 21: emails the other way from people saying, you know, leave yourship,

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 21: don't like you. But but and I recognize it's a

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 21: controversial debate, and I totally understand where people are coming from.

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Speaker 9: I don't. I don't want to sound unsympathetic to any

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01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 9: of that stuff.

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Speaker 21: But there's a there's a pathway through here, and ultimately

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 21: it's over to Auckland. They have choices around how and

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Speaker 21: where they grow.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, first of all, you're going to send me that,

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Speaker 3: then the redacted email, and then the second thing is

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Speaker 3: what are you doing for your birthday?

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Speaker 21: I I'm actually in Auckland and I'm going out to

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Speaker 21: dinner with the Public Transport Association of New Zealand. I'm

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Speaker 21: having a ministerial dinner form with them. Oh it's very exciting.

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Speaker 7: Good on you.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Chris Bishop, National Party Housing Minister. It's actually

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Speaker 3: incidentally my birthday very shortly. So it would it would

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01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 3: appear that myself. I find that myself and Chris Bishop

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01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: have more and more in common as time goes on.

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01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 3: Not only do we both September babies. Yeah, don't just

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01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 3: work backwards nine months, it'll explain everything. But also we

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01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 3: love the Don McGlashan, who probably hates both of us. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is the bloody last thing that Fletcher Building needs

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 3: I would have thought. But it appears possible that the

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Speaker 3: fire doors that they have installed at the convention center,

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01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: the Sky City Convention Center, may have asbestos contamination in them.

1583
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 3: And that's because the people who make the doors, Pacific

1584
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: Door Systems, are currently at the center of the asbestos scare,

1585
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: after some contamination was found in some of the doors.

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 3: So what they now need to do is they need

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Speaker 3: to go and check if it's in the doors at

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Speaker 3: the Sky City Convention Center. They will be pleading with

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Speaker 3: God that it's not in those doors, because frankly, they

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01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: do not need anything else to go wrong with that place.

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 3: After the guy left the blow torch on the ground,

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Speaker 3: do they quarter past?

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Speaker 3: It's just plain nimbiasm or to be blunt house prices? Well, look,

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Speaker 3: yes it is until you're the one who spent two

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Speaker 3: and a half million dollars for your villa and you're

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: sitting there and then you lose all of your shade

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01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 3: in the winter, all of your son, sorry in the winter,

1603
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 3: and your view of whatever Mount Eden or whatever. You'd

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01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 3: be fair spitting tax about that, wouldn't you as well?

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Speaker 3: Jamie mcpie hosts of the Countries with Thatslo Jamie.

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Speaker 10: Hello, that is your flash Ponsonbi villa with the swimming

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01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:55,520
Speaker 10: pool going to be shaved.

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Speaker 3: Nap not at all, not checked it out. I'm on

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01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 3: single single story. Actually, thanks very much for us. But

1612
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: comes to the downside Atney, I was worried for a moment.

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01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: It comes to it's because it's special character. But that

1614
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 3: means I can't just change the windows or you know,

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01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 3: like put up a fence, like I can't do anything,

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01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 3: but nobody else can as well, so you know, swings

1617
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 3: and roundabouts now, Mike Joy, it seems to me Mike

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 3: Joy did not want to have to say he's sorry,

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Speaker 3: but was forced to say he's sorry by Victoria University

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Speaker 3: of Wellington.

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01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 10: What do you think, Well, I think it's what you

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 10: call a slap over the wrist with a very wet

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01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 10: bus ticket from Victoria University. And I see the feeds

1624
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 10: have just put out a press release demanding a meeting

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Speaker 10: with Vice Chancellor Nick Smith, who also apologized. He said

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Speaker 10: the university had a proud tradition of activism, lawful protest

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01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 10: and freedom of expression, but Mike.

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Speaker 6: Joy went too far, and he did go too far.

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Speaker 10: It was a stupid comment from a bloke who's got

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 10: a dubious reputation, to say the least. With the farming communities,

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01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 10: suggesting or likening dairy farmers and dairy farm executives to

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Speaker 10: Dean who was famous, of course for killing children in

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01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 10: the eighteen nineties, and he's claiming that dairy farmers and

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 10: by association, the chief executives are.

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Speaker 6: Doing the same. It was a really poor choice of words.

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Speaker 10: He yesterday he said the comments were tongue in cheek

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 10: and he was happy the way he had phrased it,

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01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 10: or comfortable the way he had phrased it. By this morning,

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01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 10: he'd taken to LinkedIn to apologize, saying his words weren't

1640
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 10: wise or whatever, but of a hollow apology.

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Speaker 6: If you ask me, what's your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: I mean, should he have to lose his job over this?

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01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 7: Oh?

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01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 10: No, To be fair, look, professionally, I haven't really got

1645
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 10: much time for the bloke, but I've met him in

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01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 10: a social setting. He's been in my studio in Dunedin,

1647
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 10: and I don't hold anything against him as a person,

1648
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 10: but I just think he's he's well, no, he is

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 10: an activist, that's the word for it, and I think

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 10: this was extreme activism and just poorly chosen.

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01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 6: I don't think he'll lose his I know he won't

1652
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 6: lose his job over this.

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Speaker 10: Victoria University have only given a half hour sort of

1654
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 10: apology themselves, so I no doubt they'll meet with the

1655
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 10: FEDS and they'll sort something out. But should he lose

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01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 10: his job over one comment?

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I got in mind book. Hey listen, is

1658
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 3: buttergate going to die in natural death?

1659
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 6: Well?

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01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 10: It might because the Global Dairy Trade auction. I was

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01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 10: going to mention this to you on Tuesday. Actually I

1662
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 10: didn't get a chance to because the futures market was

1663
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 10: picking two or three percent drop and the end we

1664
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 10: got four point three across the board.

1665
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 6: Whole milk powder, the most important.

1666
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 10: Ingredient, was down five point three, skim milk even worse

1667
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 10: five point eight. So this is quite a big drop,

1668
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 10: not unusual at this time of the year when the

1669
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Speaker 10: volumes start to ramp up on the Global Dairy Trade auction.

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01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 10: Butter incidentally fould less than whole milk powder and skim

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01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 10: milk powder down two point five percent. But I did

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01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 10: speak to one dairy farm or your dairy industry executive,

1673
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 10: one of the ones that Mike Joy wanted to do

1674
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 10: bad things too, probably, and he did say to me,

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01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 10: he said to me a month or so ago. The

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01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 10: season's going to start strong, but it could get sticky

1677
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 10: in the second half of the season. I hope he's wrong,

1678
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 10: and I hope the ten bucks or the ten dollars

1679
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 10: fifteen that Fonterra's currently forecasting can hang in there. But

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01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 10: we do live in a trouble world. You only need

1681
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 10: to look at what's happening or been happening in Beijing

1682
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 10: in recent days to see that. So he's hoping the

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01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 10: dairy price can hang in there. Maybe there could be

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01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 10: some relief at the supermarket counter with a drop in

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Speaker 10: the price and butter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, Jamie, Thanks very much. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 3: again next week. Look after yourself, Jomie McKay, host of

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Speaker 3: the Country. A little bit of good news for you.

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Speaker 3: Remember how Balance, the people who make the fertilizer, said

1690
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Speaker 3: that they may have to shut down in September because

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Speaker 3: they didn't have any gas. They have managed to secure

1692
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Speaker 3: a short term gas supply for the Carpuni plant. It

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01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 3: means that they can continue operating until December thirty one,

1694
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: so basically the end of the year. Thus still looking

1695
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Speaker 3: for both short and long term affordable gas supply agreements.

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Speaker 1: Six Everything from SMS to the Big Corporates The Business

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Speaker 3: So apparently Sam Dicky reckons that September is always a

1700
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 3: bit of an average month for the equity markets, and

1701
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 3: it's making people feel a bit nervous at the moment.

1702
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: So he'll talk us through that when he's with us

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Speaker 3: in about fifteen minutes time. Right now, it's six twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Now here's your show biz news for you, Lady Gaga.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have guessed it was Lady Gaga. Sam reckons

1706
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Speaker 3: that you you'd listen to it and just be like, yeah,

1707
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: you know that Sam's our local print. Sam's the guy

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Speaker 3: on the show who knows everything that you need to

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Speaker 3: know about being a young person, like how to open

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Speaker 3: a nang bottle, and also that this is Lady Gaga anyway.

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Speaker 3: So she's back with a song. This is the new one.

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Speaker 3: It's called the Dead Dance and the song is not

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Speaker 3: connected to an album, but it's instead for the Wednesday

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Speaker 3: Show on Netflix. That's the series about Wednesday Adams from

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Speaker 3: the Adams Family. And by the way, did you know

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Speaker 3: that the show Wednesday is the most popular show Netflix

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Speaker 3: has ever released, and this is how Lady Gaga got involved.

1718
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 3: So in the first season, Wednesday does a little dance

1719
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Speaker 3: in one of her episodes, and then people on TikTok

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Speaker 3: started recreating the dance to one of Lady Gaga's old songs,

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Speaker 3: Bloody Mary, and this caught the attention of Gaga, who

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Speaker 3: was then asked to appear in the video in the

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Speaker 3: Ossorry in the second season, which has just come out,

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Speaker 3: and she said yes.

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Speaker 22: I had a wonderful time working on Wednesday season to

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Speaker 22: even just being a small part of the show. I

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Speaker 22: loved working with Tim Burton and Jenna and everyone here

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Speaker 22: is so incredible. I hope you're really comfortable in your

1729
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 22: caskets and I can't wait to see.

1730
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: You do the dad down.

1731
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 3: The new video that's come out with the songs directed

1732
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 3: by Tim Burton, and in the video, Gaga is surrounded

1733
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 3: by creepy dolls obviously because it's Tim Burton, and has

1734
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 3: her skin flaking off like porcelain once again Tim Burton,

1735
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: and she's doing some choreography that's already all over TikTok

1736
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 3: because they love it. Heather Chris Bishop would be a

1737
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 3: little bit younger than you, though, Mate, you need to

1738
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: be careful with things like that. He's not he's in

1739
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: fact one year older than me, so he's compared to

1740
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 3: me basically a granddad. Hither the nurse has better not

1741
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 3: strike later this month again, I'm due for surgery on

1742
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: the twenty fifth, and I've already been bumped and bumped

1743
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 3: and bumped. If I get bumped for this, Christ, I

1744
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 3: don't know what I'll do. It's a major operation on

1745
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 3: my back. Go back to bloody work. Exclamation mark. Yeah,

1746
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 3: I think a fair few people might feel like that.

1747
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: All right, News Us next, and then Sam Dicky's with us.

1748
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1749
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Ellen and Mas for

1750
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News Talks.

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01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: He'd be god a.

1752
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 3: Surver and de Brady's going to be with us in

1753
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 3: ten minutes time. Also, oh yeah, but just come through

1754
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 3: with the email, so stand by for that. KMD Brands,

1755
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 3: by the way, this is the guys who owned Catmandu

1756
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 3: and Ripcurl, and those guys is planning a major shakeup

1757
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: to try to turn the business around. So they're going

1758
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 3: to find a minimum of twenty five million dollars in

1759
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 3: cost savings. They'll have an organizational restructure which they reckon.

1760
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 3: They've already started, and they're going to close twenty one stores.

1761
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 3: They've got three hundred globally, so it's not a lot,

1762
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 3: but they're closing twenty one stores twenty five away from seven. Now,

1763
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: equity markets are making investors very nervous this September. Markets

1764
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 3: are softening a bit, which is remarkably, remarkably regular, regular

1765
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 3: occurrence actually in September, and Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds

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01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: is with us a Sam.

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Speaker 23: Hey have that, So what goes on in September, it

1768
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 23: is quite astonishing. So if you go back sort of

1769
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 23: twenty thirty or even one hundred years, September is by

1770
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 23: far the weakest month in the US equity market. In fact,

1771
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 23: over the last one hundred years, it is the only

1772
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 23: month that is on average negative and the reasons are

1773
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 23: actually pretty benign. So Northern Hemisphere money managers, so July

1774
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 23: is the by far the strongest month of the year

1775
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,839
Speaker 23: on average. So when they go away on holiday, liquidity

1776
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 23: drives up a bit and stop markets typically squeeze a

1777
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 23: bit higher, and they come back from the summer break,

1778
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 23: all refreshed and look to clean up their portfolios. And

1779
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 23: many of these guys have September year end, so they

1780
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 23: clean out losers from their portfolio to tiding them up

1781
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 23: make them look good at September year end, driving down

1782
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 23: stop prices, and part of it's probably self fulfilling, which

1783
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 23: which seems silly, but investors sell to try and get

1784
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 23: ahead of the September swoon, which brings on the September swoon.

1785
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 23: But this year's weakness isn't just about this calendar superstition.

1786
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 23: There are there are some real risks brewing that have

1787
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 23: investors a little concerned, like what, well, first intimate is elevated.

1788
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 23: So remember a few short months ago you and I

1789
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 23: were talking about fear being the highest in twenty five years.

1790
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 23: Now the market is quite exuberant, which worries professional investors.

1791
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,440
Speaker 23: So that's why number two is markets are headler line expensive.

1792
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 23: So the price to earnings multiple the PE ratio is

1793
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 23: twenty two times earnings, which is pretty much the highest

1794
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 23: level in quarter of a century. And the next six

1795
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 23: months should be tougher economically as the rubber meets the

1796
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 23: road on inflation and growth from tariff so Home Depot

1797
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 23: put it most succinctly last week, It, like many other

1798
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 23: US companies, have been been swallowing, been eating the tariff

1799
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 23: costs in pots, imposts and their profit and loss statements

1800
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 23: to date as they wait and see where terifs will land.

1801
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 23: But the Home Depot said they'll look to pass on

1802
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 23: these cost increases to consumers in the second half, which

1803
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 23: will lift inflation and truncate growth. And of course, the

1804
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 23: AI bubble is looking pretty inflated right now, and the

1805
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 23: enthusiasm for AI stocks is just not being matched by reality.

1806
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 23: It's not being matched by the revenue use cases from

1807
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 23: real world use cases.

1808
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:57,879
Speaker 3: So what does this all mean for investors?

1809
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:00,520
Speaker 9: I think these a valid concerns.

1810
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 23: Not the September swimming, by the way, not that superstitious thing,

1811
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 23: but I think these are valid concerns, especially given how

1812
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 23: far the market has moved a couple of caviates. So

1813
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 23: the first one is unlike in late twenty twenty one,

1814
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 23: twenty twenty two when we last saw that sort of

1815
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 23: headline p multiple up at that twenty two times and

1816
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 23: we saw a big pullback of markets. The US Federal Reserve,

1817
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 23: the FED has a ton of firepower this time to

1818
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 23: cut rates of the economy soften. So remember back then

1819
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 23: the Federal Reserve benchmark rate, which it.

1820
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 9: Uses to.

1821
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 23: Stoke or slow down the economy was already near zero's

1822
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 23: whereas today it's at four and a half percent, So

1823
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 23: tons of room to cut rates to cushing any economic weakness.

1824
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant stuff.

1825
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 6: Sam.

1826
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 3: It's good to talk to you, it always is. We

1827
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 3: took you in a week's time, Sam Dickey Official Funds.

1828
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 3: That's coming up twenty one away from seven. Ever do

1829
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: so this is so Bush came through immediately and was like,

1830
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: here you go. Here's an email name redacted killed a Chris.

1831
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 3: I've lived in Mound for seven years. I care deeply

1832
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: about the character and the liveability of this community. Mount

1833
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 3: Eden is exceptionally well located close to the city center

1834
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 3: and the rail network, restricting housing density, and such a

1835
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 3: prime location forces young people and families further out. So

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01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 3: I urge you, remember this is from somebody who is

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01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 3: presumably you'd think in a villa, I don't know, maybe

1838
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: in Mount Eden. I urge you to number one, remove

1839
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 3: the special Character Area overlay in Mount Eden to unlock

1840
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 3: housing capacity. Number two, focus intensification in areas with excellent

1841
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 3: transport links and proximity to the city. Number three support

1842
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 3: young people and families to live closer to where they

1843
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 3: work and study, rather than forcing them to the outer suburbs.

1844
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 3: All of which so Besi's right, he's getting some support.

1845
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 3: I will say, though I would I would hazard a

1846
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 3: guess that emails like that are not as frequent as

1847
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 3: the emails from people who are freaking out about it.

1848
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 3: What do you think, I mean? You know you've heard

1849
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 3: there's town halls enyre fill. So we'll keep an eye

1850
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 3: on that. We'll see how this one goes. Now on

1851
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 3: the concerts, so speaking about the Snoop Dogg concert earlier,

1852
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 3: and we're is absolutely gagging to go see Snoop Dogg

1853
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 3: has been missed by Oasis, Lady Gagar and Kendrick Lamar

1854
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 3: and all of these people who have played in Australia

1855
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 3: but not in Auckland anyway. Live Nation has given an

1856
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 3: insight today as to why we haven't been getting these

1857
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: big acts to play here in New Zealand. The Boss,

1858
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: Mark Kneebone was speaking at an events industry conference that's

1859
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: been happening this week in Hamilton, and he said part

1860
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 3: of The problem is actually that the artists want to

1861
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 3: do the big shows right so that they can do

1862
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 3: fewer stops. So it suits them better to do one

1863
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 3: gigantic show or several gigantic shows. And let's say Melbourn's

1864
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: they go to Melbourne, they do maybe three shows, is

1865
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 3: kind of what Tat did. That is better than having

1866
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 3: to go Melbourne, Sydney, Auckland, do you know what I mean?

1867
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 3: Or across the ditchit door because they know we're going

1868
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 3: to come over there. The second thing is that the

1869
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: dollar doesn't help, and he said having a dollar that

1870
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 3: buys fifty nine cents at the moment is like starting

1871
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 3: every offer on the back foot. And also he said

1872
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 3: fright is becoming increasingly problem more so than in the

1873
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 3: old days because the shows think coldplay here right, shows

1874
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 3: are becoming more complex, they're becoming bigger, they're becoming really

1875
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 3: technological like coldplays one with all the gear that I mean,

1876
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 3: they must have shipped over so much gear just to

1877
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 3: make that thing work, and so therefore it adds heaps

1878
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 3: and heaps of costs to the shipping. So it's better

1879
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 3: just go to one place, park up for a week

1880
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: while and then move on and have us come to them.

1881
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 3: Neebone said that there's a ten to fifteen percent cost

1882
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 3: increase in putting on a show in New Zealand as

1883
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 3: opposed to Australia. But having said all of that, he

1884
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,839
Speaker 3: is still optimistic because he reckons we are just thirsty

1885
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 3: for concerts over here, so they're still value in bringing

1886
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 3: the concerts down here. So fingers crossed by the way. Actually,

1887
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 3: speaking of things that are coming and whatnot, there's a

1888
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 3: new movie coming out that I think you should know

1889
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 3: about because you've already had one. I mean yeah, but

1890
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 3: now you're going to get their new installment and it

1891
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 3: has some stars in it. It's Wuthering Heights, I know,

1892
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: Wathering Heights. Have you got the Capeoss song in your head?

1893
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: Now?

1894
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 6: Yes?

1895
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 10: You do?

1896
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 3: That one? So strange, isn't she? Anyway? Heath clipping Kathy

1897
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 3: again are going to be played by Marco, Robbie and Jacob.

1898
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how to pronounce his name, Elaudie. You know,

1899
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 3: the hot one from well some say hot, some say

1900
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 3: exceptionally creepy from Saltburn. You know, he's the one. He's

1901
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 3: the one. He's the one in the bathtub, you know,

1902
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 3: not the one that's in the bathtub at the end

1903
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 3: of the bathtub, but the one who's actually having the

1904
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 3: bath at the outset. Anyway, the movie is being directed

1905
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 3: by the director of Saltburn, and if you've seen Saltburn,

1906
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 3: then you know there's all kinds of weird places that

1907
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: this movie can go. And the trailer came out today

1908
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 3: and here's a bit. Can you hear that? Far there

1909
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 3: we go?

1910
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 12: I can follow you, I could talk to the end

1911
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 12: of the world.

1912
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 11: Fall in love?

1913
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 7: You want me to stop?

1914
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 3: Oh lord, it sounds like Wuthering Heights has gone a

1915
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 3: pawn on us. Anyway, Now you're booking your tickets, aren't. Yeah,

1916
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 3: seventeen away from seven.

1917
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: Crosing the numbers and getting the results.

1918
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: It's hither to the Sea, Ellen with the Business Hour

1919
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: and mes for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News.

1920
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: Talk said, be.

1921
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 16: With us now.

1922
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 3: It's fourteen aware from seven and with us now is

1923
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,520
Speaker 3: in the brady Are UK correspondent.

1924
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 6: Hello, Lida, Hey, Heather, good to speak to you.

1925
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 3: Right, is Angela raina dog taka?

1926
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 24: She's clinging on. She's clinging on now. The problem here

1927
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 24: is that she's spent one point six million dollars on

1928
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 24: a seaside apartment in Hove on the South Coast. No

1929
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 24: problem with that, but the rules are that if it's

1930
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 24: your second home you have to pay a lot of

1931
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 24: extra money in stamp duty. This property purchased tax that

1932
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 24: we have here. On the face of it, it looks

1933
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 24: like she's been very poorly advised by a lawyer. She

1934
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 24: says that, so the figure we're talking about is eighty

1935
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 24: thousand dollars extra in tax in stamp duty. So she

1936
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 24: has come out and the papers have been all over this,

1937
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 24: to've been following this story for weeks and weeks and weeks.

1938
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 24: She says that she was given advice that she didn't

1939
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 24: have to pay it. There is a family property in

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Speaker 24: the Manchester area that she initially had down as her

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Speaker 24: main home. Even though she's most in London and lives

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Speaker 24: in a Grace and Favor flat from the UK Government

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Speaker 24: near Downing Streets. It's not looking good for her. She's

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Speaker 24: now got secondary advice from presumably a better lawyer who

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Speaker 24: has said to her that you know what, you should

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Speaker 24: have paid that eighty k. So now she's referred herself

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Speaker 24: to the government watchdog and she awaits her fate. But

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Speaker 24: the rules are the rules. I feel sorry for She

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Speaker 24: has a disabled son and it's a very complicated living

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Speaker 24: arrangement in the Manchester property. But I think ultimately she's

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Speaker 24: also housing secretary and this does not look good.

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Speaker 3: Tell me what this book says about William and the

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Speaker 3: Scottish referind them.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 24: So this is a guy called Valentine Lowe, a very

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Speaker 24: respected royal commentator and journalist. And there's a little snippet

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Speaker 24: in this book which is being serialized in the papers

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Speaker 24: this week, that if we go back to the Scottish

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Speaker 24: independence referenced them of eleven years ago. He has got

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Speaker 24: info that it was William who leaned on his grandmother

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Speaker 24: to get involved and make some sort of a public pronouncement. Now,

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Speaker 24: the monarch here cannot be political, but there was an

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01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 24: incident and I thought it was very strange at the time.

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Speaker 24: The Queen went to church in Scotland and she stopped

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Speaker 24: and she spoke to members of the public and she

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Speaker 24: was heard to say, I hope the people of Scotland

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Speaker 24: think very carefully about this, and off she walked. And

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Speaker 24: of course people talk, journalists listen, and it ends up

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Speaker 24: in the newspapers, and that was all prompted by the

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Speaker 24: polling at the time the previous weekend putting the Yes

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Speaker 24: for Independence for Scotland campaign ahead of No and remaining

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Speaker 24: in the UK. And of course then a week later

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Speaker 24: Scotland went out and voted fifty five percent in favor

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Speaker 24: of staying in.

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Speaker 9: The United Kingdom.

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Speaker 3: So why is William so interested in it?

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Speaker 24: Well, he didn't want to see the UK break up,

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Speaker 24: and I think you know, he's not stupid. He was

1979
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Speaker 24: what thirty two at the time. I don't think he

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Speaker 24: wanted to be a future king of the United Kingdom

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Speaker 24: of England, Wales and a bit of Ireland. Scotland is very,

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Speaker 24: very important, and William clearly felt she needs to be

1983
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Speaker 24: aware that this is the way it's going. The Yes

1984
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 24: campaign is winning and the only person that anyone will

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Speaker 24: listen to on this with reason is Her Majesty the Queen,

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Speaker 24: his grandmother.

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Speaker 3: Hey, so, how does Nigel for Azrick and you guys

1988
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 3: have become North Korea?

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Speaker 9: This is a good one.

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Speaker 6: So I watched this.

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Speaker 24: He gave his address and he was questioned at the

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Speaker 24: US Congress. They're looking at online safety. He turned up

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01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 24: wearing a pin badge from the news channel here The

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01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 24: right wing news channel that he sometimes appears on. It

1995
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 24: was all very odd, but Nigel Faras said that we've

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Speaker 24: got situations like the Lucy Connolly case. So she was

1997
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 24: a woman who posted on social media urging people to

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Speaker 24: burn down asylum hotels. She subsequently deleted it, but she

1999
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Speaker 24: ended up up getting put before the courts, convicted and

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Speaker 24: she spent over a year in prison. And then he

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Speaker 24: highlighted the case of Graham Linehan, the Irish guy who's

2002
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 24: a comedy writer who put out some anti trans tweets

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Speaker 24: earlier this year. He was nick the Heathrow yesterday by

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Speaker 24: five armed police officer. So Foras reckons that the UK

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01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 24: is no longer a bastion of free speech. For anyone

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01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 24: who kind of wants to investigate this further turn on

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Speaker 24: his news channel and then we are not North Korea

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Speaker 24: just yet by any stretch of course.

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Speaker 9: You're not.

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Speaker 3: Inda, Thank you very much, appreciate it. In the Brady

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent, Hey get a load of this. Obviously, lots

2012
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 3: of people are going to be thinking about moving away

2013
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 3: from guests and stuff. Gives how much it costs you

2014
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 3: to turn the guests off? I'm not talking about this

2015
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 3: is by the way. I'm not talking about replacing the heater,

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01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 3: replacing the guest of you know, blah blah, the avon whatever,

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01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 3: just to turn it off. One customer business customer was

2018
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 3: told it would cost seven and a half thousand dollars

2019
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Speaker 3: to disconnect the because because because you can't just stop

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Speaker 3: the gas, right, you can't just turn it off and

2021
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 3: leave it at that. If you just if you just

2022
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 3: that's that's called disconnecting. If you just disconnect the gas company.

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01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 3: Can can you continue to charge you a daily charge

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01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 3: for using gas even though you're not using gas? It's disconnected.

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01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 3: You have to decommission the gas. And when you decommission it,

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01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 3: boy do they go hard on you.

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: Should we do a book review next? I mean, lord,

2029
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 3: I know you're like, why it's radio news. No, I'm

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Speaker 3: not radio, it's not Radio New Zealand. But I think

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Speaker 3: I think it's time for a book review. Let's do one.

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Speaker 3: Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather too for see Allen Drive Full Show

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Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by newstalg ZB.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go, six away from seven. So I

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01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 3: told you I was reading the book by Sophie Maloney's

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Speaker 3: husband Sophie being the SkyTV CEO, and the pattern here

2038
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,560
Speaker 3: is it's the second book by a CEO spouse that

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Speaker 3: I've read. This one is by is by Sophie's husband Will.

2040
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Speaker 3: It's called what Do You Do All Day? And If

2041
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 3: You Are? I feel like it's going to really appeal

2042
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Speaker 3: to mums, mums who feel like they do everything around

2043
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 3: the house and are like completely unappreciated by people. I

2044
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 3: feel like this is that is the target audience because

2045
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Speaker 3: it's the story basically of a woman who is quite

2046
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 3: clearly a lot smarter than her husband before they get married.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're having these brilliant careers and stuff, and

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01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,759
Speaker 3: then they get married and then somehow she finds herself

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01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 3: being the one who just falls into raising the kids

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Speaker 3: and tidying up the house. And they're not poor like

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01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 3: the Living Roomy where it's set in New Zealand, obviously

2052
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 3: the living Roomy where they've got all the flash stuff.

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01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 3: They've got a big house, big car, fancy life. He's

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01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 3: a banker and stuff, but he totally takes her for granted,

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Speaker 3: like and just forgets that she is a woman with

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Speaker 3: agency who might actually want to have a life of

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01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 3: her own and he just expects her to tidy up

2058
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 3: his life. So he'll just walk through the room getting

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01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 3: undressed and sort of leave all his gear lying all

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Speaker 3: over and she's got to like pick it up and stuff.

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Speaker 3: My favorite bit, my favorite bit about it, I do

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Speaker 3: recommend it's quite like in a way, it's really sad

2063
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 3: actually in a way when you think about it. But

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Speaker 3: Will is a brilliant writer. H's some funny, laugh out

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01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 3: loud stuff and if you like modern music, you're really

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01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 3: going to enjoy the fact the soundtrack to this is brilliant.

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Speaker 3: And he's actually got little QR codes. You can scan

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01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 3: them at the start of the chapter and get the

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01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 3: playlist for each chapter. It's great stuff, Block Party, Missy Elliott,

2070
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 3: all the nineties, you know, nineties bangers and stuff. Anyway,

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01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 3: my favorite part of the book is how the wife

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01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 3: niggles him without him realizing it. So he asks her

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01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 3: to go to Pharaoh because they shop at Pharaoh because

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01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 3: they've got money. As he asks her to go to

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01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 3: Pharaoh and buy the gym supplement powder crap that you

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01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 3: buy that's like, you know, to shreds so he can

2077
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 3: look really muscly, like skinny and stuff. So she buys

2078
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 3: him the stuff to bulk up, which is the opposite

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01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 3: of what he wants, and he wheez on the toilet

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01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 3: seat because he's a man, so he does a wee

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01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 3: weee on the toilet seat. But then he doesn't tidy up,

2082
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 3: so she takes his towel and wipes up the Wii Wei,

2083
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 3: And later on, when he's really boozed and wheeze all

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01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 3: over the ground, she takes his towel, swipes it all up,

2085
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 3: hangs the towel back up. Quite enjoyed that, thought that

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01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 3: that was quite a nice little niggle. Anyway, go and

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01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 3: read that if you feel like, if you just feel

2088
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 3: like you need a little bit of solidarnosque from another woman.

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01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 3: I don't know where the Russian came from, Libby.

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01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 24: Have you read Wathering Heights?

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01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 1: No?

2092
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:17,560
Speaker 13: Have you?

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01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 7: I have?

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01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 5: And I actually had to look up if it ended

2095
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 5: the way that I remembered it and did it because

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01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 5: it's coming out on Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 18: Oh, it's not what I would have picked for the.

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01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 3: Oh no, you've already told me somebody dies. I didn't

2099
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Speaker 3: say that. Well, they're obvious from what you just said.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, I didn't say that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll have to read it now after I read

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Speaker 3: Grant Robertson's book, of course. Yes, what have you got

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01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 3: for us? I've got Wathering Heights obviously. By the way, everybody,

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01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 3: this is Libby who's filling in for Ant's answers, going

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01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 3: on holiday. He's got how long he's ants gone away for?

2106
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 3: It's like five weeks, it's a solid month. He's gone

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01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 3: for a long time. He's going to come back with

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Speaker 3: a beard and a tan. So Libby's in charge, and

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Speaker 3: go on, let me boost it and we'll see tomorrow.

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