1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Alliance Meatworks are set to close it's Smithfield plant and 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Timadou by the end of the year, resulting in the 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: loss of about six hundred jobs. It's a huge loss 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: for the sector and we need plants like it to 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: process our meats. Dan Bolton is the Silver Fir and 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Farms chief executives with me this morning. Dan, Good morning, Dan, 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: can you hear me right there? 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Fine, Oh there we. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Go, Dan, Welcome to the show. Good to have you on. 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Is this a worry when we hear about these closures? 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Clearly a worry when there's many job losses there and 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: devastating for the people of the Timory community. You know, Ryan, 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: that's extually my hometown and Silver and Farms we have 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: our own workforce and Timory, so I know how much 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: the locals are hurting after this announcement right now. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Is this because our stock is reducing in the you know, 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: we don't need the capacity at these meatworks anymore or 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: what's going on here? 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. So she numbers have been declining 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: and you know, our farmers, particularly sheep farmers, have had 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: some better land news options in front of them, as 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: you know, that's predominantly been linked to the settings that 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: have allowed pine trees to be planted on productive sheep 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: country in you couple that with probably eighteen months of 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: relatively depressed land export returns and that's just accelerated that change. 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: So land news change is a big part of it. 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: But you know, civil food and farms, we don't accept 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: that trend will continue. We feel there's an excellent future 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: demand for New Zealand produced, particularly sustainable produced protein, and 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: that includes our land. But as an industry, you know, 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: we're going to have to evolve and be innovative to 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: ensure we can capture that. And you know, in our sheep, 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: beef and venison, farmers deserve to thrive. But to do that, 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: they're going to need a really strong and efficient and 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: viable processing sector and that's going to require investment, and 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: then it requires investment in our processing facilities. But I 37 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: think what we're seeing at the moment is just a 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 2: realignment of processing capacity versus the available available land numbers. 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: And I guess when you've got too much capacity, there 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: needs to be an adjustment because a large, expensive infrastructure 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: to run. In history shows that industries had to adapt 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: over time to make sure we have an efficient network. 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: Plus a big labor because so it would Silver Firm's 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Silver Firm potentially look at investing in somewhere like well 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: more in some way, like to try and create more 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: capacity there. 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, or we already have a large process and capacity. 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: But I think you know, is there you know, I 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: think the question you're asking is is there a challenge 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 2: there for farmers in that region. I think they're still 51 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: sufficient capacity across that wider south canabary Otago Canterbury region, 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: So I don't think there's going to be a challenge 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: there for farmers to get the animals processed in that 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: particular area For the season ahead. 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: How's the outlook looking. We're expecting farm gate prices from 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: processes and exporters soon. How how are things tracking? 57 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually be looking really good, you know, and particularly 58 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: off the demand and the supply shortage up into the USA, 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: but also other key markets are performing well Japan, Korea, 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: Europe and even China on chilled beef items is looking 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: really positive. And I think you know, today all beef 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: farm gate pricings that record high, so not a lot 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: to complain about there, and even prime beef is looking 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: pretty good. So we're seeing beef pricing remain firm as 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: we move into twenty twenty five and probably sitting about 66 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: seventy cents to a dollar above the five year average, 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: and I think farmers will be pretty happy with that outcome. 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: For lamb farmers, you know, and that's clearly pricing hasn't 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: been where it's needed to be and still sitting below 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: the five year average. But you know that's been driven 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: by an oversupply out of Australia with them at record 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: production level. So but that said, we're seeing that for 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: supply position for casts. Even we're actually seeing some shortages 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: now on lambs up in the UK and EU market 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: said some pretty favorable price signals as we head into 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. So we're seeing lamp pricing aspect to 77 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: more sustainable levels for our farmers, which is exactly the 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: news after and believe it or not, we're actually getting 79 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: some outstanding pricing on certain items such as lamb ranks 80 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: and lamb lloyans that we all love. But unfortunately there's 81 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: the whole, the whole animal we need to sell. We've 82 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: sort of got to get the rest of the carcass 83 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: pricing back up to where it needs to be, and 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: China's going to play an important part of it, and 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: we're getting some green shoots coming out of China as well. 86 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: So it's on heading in the right direction, but still 87 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: a little bit more to go for our lamb Farmer's good. 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: Nice to finish on some positive news. Dan, Thank you 89 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: very much for your time this morning. It's Dan Bolton's 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: silver Fern Farms chief executive. 91 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. 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