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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: I am paul A Benett and welcome to the last

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Speaker 2: episode of season five of Ask Me Anything. One thing

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Speaker 2: I've learned in life is it's never too late to

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Speaker 2: learn something new.

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Speaker 3: So on this podcast, I talk to people from.

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Speaker 2: All walks of life to hear about how they got

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Speaker 2: to where they are and get some advice and guidance

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Speaker 2: on life's biggest questions. My guests, is looking a bit

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Speaker 2: nervous now worth Newshub entering it's last week. I've called

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Speaker 2: in one of their stars to chat about it. Ryan

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Speaker 2: Bridge started out in radio with Arin Zed. He's worked

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Speaker 2: on three's Current Affair show Story, hosted drive show.

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Speaker 3: On Magic Talk before heading back.

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Speaker 1: To News Hub.

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Speaker 2: Last year, he made the switch from host of Am

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Speaker 2: to spearhead the new seven pm show, But with the

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Speaker 2: unfortunate closure announcement that never came about, Ryan is now

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Speaker 2: hitting to news Talks Be to replace Kate Hawksby as

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Speaker 2: host of early edition. Ryan welcome, Thank you, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: your new place of work.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It feels very weird to be here.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting to be starting a new job or

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Speaker 4: you know, going to a new office or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: So this is a weird thing, but a very exciting thing.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 3: That's what we like to hear. Okay.

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Speaker 2: My two roles for my podcast is I'm allowed to

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Speaker 2: ask you anything.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, just like that. That's okay, okay, good. But

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Speaker 4: and then I get to ask you something. Yeah, one,

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Speaker 4: I can ask you anything. Yeah, okay, I've been thinking

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Speaker 4: about this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's good. It's my least favorite. But I

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Speaker 2: like being in charge.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: And I call it the no judge zone.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just so then we're just you know, we're just not

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Speaker 3: dissling on other people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, because.

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Speaker 3: It just too much of it aims so right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's fine. I mean I spend most of

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Speaker 4: my career doing that. Yes, so let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: Do you cook?

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Speaker 3: We're easy?

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, not your thing, not my thing?

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Speaker 4: Really might really care. My partner is a great cook, really,

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Speaker 4: so he does a lot of that. I do eggs.

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Speaker 4: I love omelets. I can do omelets. Okay, yeah, jalapeno

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Speaker 4: is a bit of sausage in there, tcharizza and some eggs.

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Speaker 1: Bob's your uncle.

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Speaker 3: I love a good egg. Yep, love a good egg.

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Speaker 2: If you were having the dinner party and bye anyone

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Speaker 2: alive or dead?

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Speaker 3: Fantasy World?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, here, come on, Well you must have been

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Speaker 2: asked that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose I have. I just don't think I've

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Speaker 4: ever had a good answer. Yeah, I mean I guess

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Speaker 4: you'd invite Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hadn't thought of that until Hither

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Speaker 2: your now new colleagues.

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Speaker 1: Did she say that to you? Yeah, I'd go Jesus.

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Speaker 2: I think she Heither did just say as well, though,

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Speaker 2: that she wouldn't invite Barry because you just want Jesus

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Probably Jesus. You'd have to go. I wouldn't Beyonce personally,

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Speaker 4: just to have her there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't even know what i'd ask her, but

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Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have her at my house.

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Speaker 3: She is a queen, yeah, come on, she is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very very impressive. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: How many people do invite to this party Jesus, Beyonce

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Speaker 4: and or maybe someone like Muldoon just for interest's sake,

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Speaker 4: you know, just those stories and all the bits that

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Speaker 2: You know, Because I was going to say, because you'd

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Speaker 2: have heard so much about him, but then around there,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 3: It was well before your time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was because how old are you? I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just googled you. Yeah, I'm You're the same

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Speaker 1: Now that's a good thing. That's great. We will know

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Speaker 1: that I was a child mama.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's true. You know we've spoken about that, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: of politics that we talk about that.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't there for you know, yeah, and you sort

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Speaker 4: of just do rely on I mean that's why people

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Speaker 4: like you mentioned Barry Sober great to have around. Yeah, Troe,

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Speaker 4: you sit down, have a couple of beers with Barry Sober,

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Speaker 4: and you've learned more about New Zealand's political history than

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Speaker 1: So people like that are invaluable to have around.

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Speaker 2: So were you always interested in politics? I was, yes,

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Speaker 4: It is weird. It's sort of like what's wrong with you?

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Speaker 4: My grandma was very is, very into politics. She used to,

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Speaker 4: And I think that's where I got my interest in politics.

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Speaker 4: And then I was about eight or nine and I

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Speaker 4: ran for class president.

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Speaker 1: Yes, loser, but I want.

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Speaker 2: Don't say that, well, I want my greenson just random

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Speaker 2: and he won and he's nine.

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Speaker 1: It's probably cool now, I don't know. Yeah, yea, I'm

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Speaker 4: So I've always been interested in it. I've always loved

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Speaker 3: Did you think you might go into politics?

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Speaker 4: I did for a while. I used to actually, do

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Speaker 4: you know what? I used to do some volunteering for

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Speaker 4: And so my job was to make Helen Clark look

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Speaker 4: free student loans or whatever whatever the policy was. Ah,

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Speaker 4: interesting and I would have been still at high school

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Speaker 2: I was a member of the National Party, but wasn't

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Speaker 2: And my first one was, as you say, trying to

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Speaker 2: of the common Princess as the guest.

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Speaker 3: You know I did.

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Speaker 1: This is the like we are.

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Speaker 2: Normal because I'm a poor solo mum yea, you know.

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Speaker 3: There is one I am the white rhinoceros.

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Speaker 2: And back then very different politics now, which is fun.

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Speaker 3: No politicians.

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Speaker 2: There is such a range now and all the parties,

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Speaker 2: but then you know, back then, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 4: I was the novelty either. Do you feel like people

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Speaker 4: it's not my podcast, I shouldn't as year, No, you

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Speaker 4: look there you go. You'll you know, that's your role.

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Speaker 2: Yeah ah no, no not really. It was definitely my

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Speaker 2: I studied it at UNI, so I always say I

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Speaker 2: it was fine. I mean you've got a bit sick

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Speaker 2: which is what you were saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when did you go off politics then? Well being

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think at some point during my university days.

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Speaker 4: bea do this one too, because you'll actually learn something

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Speaker 4: about the real will yeah, which was really good advice.

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Speaker 4: And somewhere in amongst there, I realized that I didn't

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Speaker 4: I'm not here to change the world, but I did.

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Speaker 4: I'm fascinated by it, and I'm fascinated by the people

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Speaker 2: And do you think being gay might have played a part?

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Speaker 2: And you're not putting your hand up like that at

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Speaker 4: No, well, well I was out to my mum when

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Speaker 4: But so, yeah, so I was to my family. It

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: You so you weren't worried about being judged.

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Speaker 4: I mean I was, well, I was in terms of

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Speaker 4: being in the media, but it wasn't something that I

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Speaker 1: Okay. That was more just like what a horrible thing

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Speaker 1: to do?

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not not not so much with sexuality now,

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Speaker 2: but you know, if you just look at the politicians

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Speaker 2: and what the scrutiny and the level of it that

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Speaker 1: And just how naff it can become.

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Speaker 4: And this is partly our fault in the media, right,

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Speaker 4: Like we chase these silly little angles and then people

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Speaker 4: get you know, so focused on one silly little thing

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Speaker 4: and then three weeks later a minister's gone and you know,

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Speaker 4: the media has got a scalp and I don't know

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Speaker 4: how productive is that?

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Speaker 1: And do you want to be in the middle of that?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, so on there, let's talk about your new show

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Speaker 3: when you're going to be doing that? So how exciting?

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Speaker 2: So you are joining I think when this goes out,

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Speaker 2: it'll be in about a week's time. Yes, yes, so

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Speaker 2: that sounds about right back to the early mornings.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how are you feeling about that?

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Speaker 4: Oh? You know, I thought I was sort of done

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Speaker 4: with them. I thought I had them behind me. But

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Speaker 4: this is a fantastic opportunity because it's first up five

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Speaker 1: That? So? I do? I normally would have musically.

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Speaker 2: And then there's you know, a few of them have

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Speaker 4: A lot of people have mentioned ways that I could

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Speaker 3: So it's one week to go for everyone at Newshub.

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Speaker 1: And what's what's going on. I have to.

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Speaker 4: Say that I think it was although the news was terrible,

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Speaker 2: You were, well, you know, just because you were stepping

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Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 4: I've never I mean, you don't normally get six months

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Speaker 2: So are you do you think that do you think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting. Other things have been happening

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're back, and we are going to talk

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Speaker 2: you're in the public eye, and we're going to get

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Speaker 2: some advice on having bold opinions.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good.

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Speaker 3: You're kind of paid to have opinions.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: We going to get to that because most excitedly, we're

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Speaker 2: recording this just before the wedding. Yep, and when it

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00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 2: comes out on Sunday, you will be a married man, hopefully.

447
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 3: Because they've got a few days to go.

448
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: He has to say I do, and well we both

449
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 1: have to say I do.

450
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

451
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: You have to tune up at the right place, right time,

452
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: and give yourselves your vows to each other.

453
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you right?

454
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 2: Are you?

455
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 3: How much do you want to talk about are you

456
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 3: writing your bows?

457
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh?

458
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 4: I'm happy to talk about it. We're not writing individual vowels.

459
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 4: A good friend of ours is the celebrant Jimmy. So

460
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 4: Jimmy is in charge. He's written a beautiful ceremony and

461
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 4: he sent it through to us to read, which we

462
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 4: did individually, and.

463
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: Both of us cried. He had written beautiful things.

464
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: And he has a sort of formula for you know,

465
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 4: do you take someone and say blah blah blah, I

466
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 4: shouldn't be so, and that was beautiful and I just

467
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 4: feel like, look, there's there's there are many non conventional

468
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 4: parts of this wedding.

469
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: Nice. It's two men to begin with.

470
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 4: It's nice to have some more conventional And I don't

471
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 4: like it when people get up there and go, you know,

472
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 4: I promise to make the bed and.

473
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like do you read yeah, no, no, and

474
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: we don't want and it's about mass now yeah. Point

475
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 2: you know, it's like they seem and those stupid vows

476
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: and it's quite irritating.

477
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, and.

478
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 4: We're doing speeches at the end of you know, we've

479
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 4: got speeches from our family, and then at the very end,

480
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 4: my partner and I will both do a brief speech

481
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: to thank people and to say something to each other nice.

482
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 4: So I feel like that's enough.

483
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's enough.

484
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: It does enough, And so is there another bit of

485
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: the unconventional.

486
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: So we've got no. I basically just mean it's a

487
00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: big gay wedding. It is great. It is great, and

488
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: lots of family.

489
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 4: Lots of family, and lots of family for whom this

490
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 4: will be their first gay wedding to I've ever attended,

491
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 4: so that's kind of fun.

492
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Yeah.

493
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: I attended a gay wedding like literally weeks after it

494
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: becoming law.

495
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: Oh really, And it was.

496
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 3: Two friends that have been together for like thirty five years,

497
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

498
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: Like it was just and that was I didn't I

499
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: don't mean to say that I didn't give it any thought,

500
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: but I didn't give it any thought.

501
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: I just voted for it, right, you know what I mean.

502
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: I didn't need to go through any big thought process

503
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 2: for it. And then and then of course it was

504
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: kind of a no brainer for me. And then I

505
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: turned up at this wedding, and these older gays just

506
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 2: literally blubbering because they just never thought they see this day,

507
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it was.

508
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 3: It was really humbling.

509
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hugely significant, and it's I mean, it's not

510
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 4: I'm not one of those people who likes to be

511
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 4: Oh I'm gay, look at me, you know the I'll

512
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 4: speak for all gay people, but I think it is

513
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: incredibly important that that law change that happened. And I

514
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: think it's also important. I was thinking about in my speech.

515
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: Do I mention you know how significant it is that

516
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: we are able to do this, And I think I will.

517
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 4: I think I will say that in my speech because

518
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: you know, we take things for granted, I think, and

519
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 4: were that option not to be on the table, I

520
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 4: just think, Fuck, what kind of world was that, you

521
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

522
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: And let's not forget what's happening in other parts of

523
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: the world totally people that don't have those sorts of

524
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: rights and freedom that they should have.

525
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: It's still happening, right.

526
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 4: Look at the Middle East, even parts of Asia, Look

527
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 4: at Africa. You know there are new laws being passed.

528
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah so.

529
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in some places our rights are being stripped away.

530
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: Even more. You know, like, so it is good, I

531
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 3: think to acknowledge it.

532
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm sort of saying it was a

533
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: no brainer, because I don't want to undermine the significance

534
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: of what it was. Yeah, I just happened to get

535
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: hit with that. Whoa, Okay, you know, like this is

536
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: so it sounds like there's going to be some tears

537
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: in the audience.

538
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 4: I think is my mum is the kind of person

539
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: who'll cry it at a bank head.

540
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're good.

541
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: And I inherited that trait from here. Oh great, so

542
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: they'll definitely be. And actually my partner he's sort of

543
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 4: the same too.

544
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: So your partner's notoriously private, and I've got one that's notorious.

545
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: You do too, Yeah, I do.

546
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: I don't so, and I respected one hundred percent. Just

547
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: because I'm a chopone, he doesn't mean that he is int.

548
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: There's not room for it, and quite friendly. I need

549
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 2: a stage, and for a stage, you need an audience.

550
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: And that's his part in life.

551
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: Do you know, my poor partner, he has been putting

552
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: up with the fact that I don't have an audience

553
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: for the last six months, and I keep saying, well,

554
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 4: it's an it's an audience. Have won, but I'm still performing.

555
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 4: Shut the you know, shut the fuck up, right, go

556
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 4: and get.

557
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: A job.

558
00:24:59,240 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: And do.

559
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: That would be so true.

560
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: So I relate.

561
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how do you respect that privacy because it's

562
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: not easy, right, and it's not easy on them. No,

563
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: but he does know what he's getting into as well.

564
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 4: He does, Yeah, he does, and I think he just

565
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: wants I think he just doesn't like all that stuff.

566
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 4: And I get it, you know, it took me a

567
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 4: while to get used to it as well. But yeah,

568
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to be front and center, and he

569
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: knows that it's it's my thing and he would prefer

570
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: not to have particularly our you know, wedding photos, et cetera.

571
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I splashed around and stuff like that. So that's cool.

572
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.

573
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't worry. I mean, that's it.

574
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: That's it.

575
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: So then do you but you must.

576
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: Still be approached when you're out and that sort of thing, because.

577
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a weird one because it's obvious that he's

578
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: my partner, you know. Yeah, but you know what key

579
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 4: was the like they're just the loveliest, you know, people

580
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: come up and say hello, and then they'll know quietly

581
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 4: sort of you know, hold his hand or whatever and

582
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: give him, give him a squeeze, and yeah, people are

583
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: absolute lovely and wonderful and respect boundaries and privacy and

584
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 4: stuff like that.

585
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 3: That's really funny though.

586
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: Like I sa at the pub on Saturday watching the

587
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: rugby with best friends in my husband, and this guy

588
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: came up and he was a big yo nut as

589
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: my husband's dude.

590
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: And he came up and he goes, sorry.

591
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: But I'm going to be bloody road and I just

592
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: I instantly knew that he didn't mean it, Like, but

593
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: my husband and my friends thought he was going to

594
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: have a bit of a go at me, and then

595
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, we're going to he just met

596
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: Rhoders and interrupting yeah yeah, and then proceeded to show

597
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: me how wonderfully thought I was. So it was perfectly

598
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: acceptable in my mind. Yeah, but it was quite funny

599
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: that my husband was like, who goes, Oh my god,

600
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: and I was thinking, what are we going to do

601
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: about that?

602
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: Was because I don't want to go. I wanted to

603
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: tell him more of me.

604
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: But did you say, key, We's are just so lovely?

605
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: Really?

606
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this's one time that I got that

607
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 4: lady in a supermarket said something to me. I can't

608
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 4: even remember what, but it was negative, you know. Yeah,

609
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: apart from that, everyone's cool.

610
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: So does he feel though, if you are being credit

611
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: size for something you've done or something like that, does

612
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: he feel it more than you? Because I always mind

613
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: my husband almost feels more than I do, or my

614
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: parents feel it more than I do.

615
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I think there was definitely a time because

616
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 4: when we first got together, I was in radio. Yeah,

617
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 4: I would have been doing drive I think, yeah, at

618
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: RadioLIVE or Magic Talk, whatever it was. And there were

619
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 4: definitely times where you know, I was sort of being

620
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: taken to task about stuff or and it was getting

621
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 4: personal messages in the inbox, and I wasn't coping.

622
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: With that particularly well.

623
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was not sleeping at night and stressing about

624
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: it and thinking about the tiny little thing. And so

625
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: he really felt that too, and he was a huge

626
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: help and support to get hing me, you know, through

627
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 4: those little moments.

628
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: And now it's like do I care? Not really, no,

629
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: you know.

630
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes he was, And you've been together long

631
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: enough now that he's ridden through it as well.

632
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: In highs and lows that's it.

633
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and sometimes you might even question, you

634
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: know something, and then you just look at him and

635
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: he'll go fucking get over me.

636
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. So who's organized the wedding?

637
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: Largely him?

638
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you get the proposal.

639
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: I did the proposal, which I thought was quite key. Yes,

640
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 4: I'm doing the photographer, the DJ, and the here and makeup,

641
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 4: which I'm getting Katie and Josie, who you'll know from

642
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: TV three by coming up to do here and make

643
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: up for us. Yeah, so I had I have some

644
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 4: important jobs. Yes, but he's doing How in bold has

645
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 4: your mother being mum? Look, mum wants to be more involved.

646
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

647
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 4: I've just been like, no, no, you're right. I mean

648
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: she works full to. This is making it sound like

649
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: she doesn't care. She's tried to be very involved. Yes,

650
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: and I've been like, marm it's all sort of don't worry.

651
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yah, because she works full time.

652
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: She works full time, she's busy, she's got grandkids, she's

653
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: running around. But she is excited to be there. And

654
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: I think she's actually going to do something with the soup.

655
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: We're having soup the day after.

656
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: What are you going to do about now all the

657
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: inevitable way you having when a children coming and all

658
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: the rest of its things, because it's I even don't

659
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: want really want to ask you, because it just feels

660
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: like that's what we do, right, You know, when you

661
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: get together with someone, then you get married, and then

662
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: it's like when and if and everyone else.

663
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: It's just like people.

664
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: Although these days people you know, it's more about you

665
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: get your house first, isn't it, and then you might

666
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: think about kids, and then you might think about a wedding.

667
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 2: Well that's true, because it's like you've got the fur baby,

668
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: got the fair baby.

669
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Speaker 1: We've talked about kids.

670
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: I used to think hard yes, and he was sort

671
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: of on the fence, and now we're both thinking. Life's

672
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: busy enough, also quite lucky being two men. We don't

673
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 4: have to worry too much about a ticking time bomb.

674
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: Oh you don't.

675
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: It is the womb and I, you know, talk to

676
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: a lot of our female friends are in that age

677
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: now where they're pumping their kids out.

678
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: You know, they've had they've just had one at thirty six.

679
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: If you hadn't got them, you'd be thinking about it

680
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: and it was your burning desire.

681
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, each to their own but it's such a huge thing.

682
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: And then if you don't have a boyfriend or a

683
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: partner yet, you're counting backwards, going all right, well, you've

684
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: got to give me a year to meet one. Then

685
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: you've got to give me two years to get to

686
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: know them, and then we've got to maybe get engaged

687
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: and then the kid, you know. So I mean it's

688
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: just incredibly stressful. So in a lot of ways, we

689
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: don't get knocked up.

690
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: At seventeen, I say, get.

691
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: It out of the ways, get.

692
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: It out of the way.

693
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you guys will just sweit you way.

694
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: Through, way through it. At this stage it's a no

695
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: yeah to children. Yeah, but who knows? Who knows? You know,

696
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: when we turn forty yeah, I don't know. Maybe we'll

697
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: change our minds.

698
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe.

699
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I think we're going to move into talking

700
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: about public opinion because you're about to go on that

701
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: job again and you're paid.

702
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: To have opinions, right, yeah, you are, you are.

703
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: So you are going to be interviewing people again. You're

704
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: going to be in that public eye. You're going to

705
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: get public feedback. How are you going to take that?

706
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Mainly?

707
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: But most of it I say ignore because it's not.

708
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: It's particularly when it comes to social media and stuff

709
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: like that, I tend to stay away from it. I

710
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: think it gets the extremes, and also what's published on

711
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: there is usually just a snippet of whatever has happened,

712
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: or the context around something that's been said has been

713
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: taken and stripped away, so the responses to it are

714
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 4: therefore stripped of context as well. So it's not something

715
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: that I think you should pay too much attention to. However,

716
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: I think it's important to have people around you who

717
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 4: and when I say normal people, I mean people who

718
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: have nothing to do with this crazy media world who

719
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: you can talk to and sound out, and people who

720
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: you have vastly different viewsis too.

721
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: To sort of do it that way.

722
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: Not to say you don't read the feedback or the

723
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: emails that come in, but I always read the emails

724
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: that come in. I think if someone's taken the time

725
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 4: to write an email and you know, address it to you,

726
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: I think it's it's where of their effort that you

727
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: read it. So yeah, I try to keep it in perspective,

728
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: don't get dragged into the extreme kind of response thing,

729
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: and always make sure that your phone is away from

730
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: far away from you when you get home.

731
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when you are interviewing and perhaps having

732
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: you know, putting your opinion forward, are you more doing

733
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: it because you think that there's people at home that

734
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: will be thinking about that question or where it's going.

735
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: You know, how much of it as you being the

736
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: journalist for your listeners as with your own opinion?

737
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: Good question. It depends on the issue.

738
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: But there have been times where I think probably when

739
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm most animated is when I am asking the question

740
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: for me. Yeah, but I wouldn't ask it if no

741
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: one at home was interested, because otherwise, what are you doing?

742
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: You're losing your audience.

743
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: But if there's something that particularly grates me, or I

744
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: feel like a politician has been disingenuous in a position, yeah,

745
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: then that's when I I sort of that's when I

746
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: get stuck in.

747
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: Well, how do you hold people to account?

748
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: Though?

749
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: Then I mean, yeah, well I'm a public servant now

750
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: about to get political.

751
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: Then Yeah, you go back and you look at things

752
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: that they have said, you look at promises that they

753
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 4: have made, and then you compare those to what they're

754
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: telling you. Now, what the stats are telling you about

755
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: the state of the economy. Or the country or whatever

756
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: it is they said that they promised to do or

757
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: fix all whatever. That's how I've always done it. Yeah,

758
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: good bit of research. But at Albert Greece and then some.

759
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: And there is a lot of prep.

760
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: And so will you prep the night before for a

761
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: five a ema yep, yeah.

762
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it's yeah, at some shows it's

763
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: like you throw everything out of the window and you

764
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: start a fresh in the morning. But generally you'll know

765
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: a couple of your interview subjects or at least the

766
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: talent for those interviews the day before, and so you

767
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: would prep at home on a hundred percent yea yeah, yeah,

768
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: and then you'll always need two hours before a show

769
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 4: to prep, you know, in the office. So if show

770
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: starts at five, you need to be there by three.

771
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of thing.

772
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: Well, and as you say, because really you're coming on

773
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: at five to do that synopsis of what's happened overnight,

774
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: clean up of the day, and then you'd have some

775
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: a couple of seat interviews, you left some regular slots

776
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: like Kate.

777
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: Head omen Yeah, similar kind of vibe. Yeah, So yeah,

778
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 4: it's your that's your responsibility, your responsibility as while people

779
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: are sleeping from three to five.

780
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: You're going around the world and.

781
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 4: Seeing what it is that they need to know the most,

782
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 4: order it in terms of importance, and then make sure

783
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: that they are aware of what's going on.

784
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: I saw you described as having a touch of non

785
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: woke Paul Henry.

786
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: Oh have you heard that? No, I haven't heard that.

787
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: He said that someone online?

788
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably my auntie googlink. No, do you know someone? No,

789
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: do you know I see that non woke Paul Henry.

790
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: Well, Paul Henry was a fantastic broadcaster. Care So that's

791
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: that's very flattering. I suppose do you.

792
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Consider yourself a conservative or are you getting more conservatives? No?

793
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 4: I don't consider myself a conservative. Socially conservative, no way, No.

794
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the state of me. I head

795
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: along hair. You know I sleep with men.

796
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: I mean you did, you did the bum the.

797
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Man bun thing. Yeah, No, I'm not.

798
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm socially conservative. And to be honest,

799
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: you know, I think there aren't many well, I mean

800
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 4: it depends if you compare us to a different country,

801
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: other countries and stuff like that. I don't think New

802
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: Zealand has a hell of a lot of social conservatives,

803
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: and certainly not as conservative as you would have in

804
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: places even like Australia for example.

805
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true.

806
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: But no, I don't think I'm a social conservative. I

807
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't classify myself in that way. Yeah, that's right. Yeah,

808
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: so you're looking forward to it.

809
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: Oh, the wedding. Can't wait? Can't wait? I am getting

810
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: a bit nervous, just you know, I don't know why.

811
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, see, we're not going to public photos, but

812
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: you'll show me.

813
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: If I'll show you a photo.

814
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's what I need. That's what I need, right,

815
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: I'll be.

816
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: Happy with that.

817
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, this is your moment. It's called to ask me anything. Oh,

818
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: so Ryan, you get to ask me something. I hope

819
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: you haven't done to much swort into this.

820
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: I thought of it this morning. Okay, god, it's not

821
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 4: I can't remember. We can cut this a we can.

822
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: No, because we're laughing now, So.

823
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: Can you show me your tatoes?

824
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. That would mean me

825
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: admitting publicly.

826
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so we can cut this. We can cut this.

827
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: I thought you had.

828
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: No never.

829
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: We can start again.

830
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: No, No, okay, I thought you had I mean I'm

831
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: still not admitting it.

832
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you haven't. So what's the answer to

833
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: the question.

834
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see, that's what I'm saying.

835
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm just still not admitting it that everyone's entitled to

836
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: some privacy.

837
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: Fair enough, we're moving on.

838
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: I can see the producers piping furiously because she's quite excited.

839
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Thought anyway, I don't know that you do.

840
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: This is a Mark Richard's an outing you moment, That's

841
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: what it is.

842
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: It's just a rumor.

843
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

844
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks for coming in. So I mean that

845
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: or not.

846
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure now.

847
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: No, I do.

848
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks for coming in.

849
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: And it'll take more than anything to anything like that

850
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: to embarrass me. Okay, so everyone will be able to

851
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: hear you on early edition five or six News Talks.

852
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: He'd be Monday's eighth of July.

853
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: Correct.

854
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: We are on and that's it for another episode and

855
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: another season.

856
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: Have asked me anything? You can get in touch with.

857
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: Me by emailing out all in cdme, dot CO, dot

858
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: in seed. But I am going to be taking a

859
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: few weeks off, so don't expect me to get back

860
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: to them too quickly.

861
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: Make sure you follow ask.

862
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: Me anything, Go back and listen to them. They're fantastic

863
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio or wherever you get in your podcast. I'll

864
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: be back in a couple of months with more fabruous

865
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: gifts and September.

866
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Speaker 3: I'm Paula, been it, Ask me anything. Goodbye,