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Speaker 1: You're trusted ho the News, Sport, Entertainments, Opinion and Mike

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Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real

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Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three, news togsad been.

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Speaker 2: Bulling and welcome today good news on crime, new stats

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Speaker 2: that show the police crackdown in some areas. He is

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Speaker 2: working the amalgamation chapter councils and Wellington back on the

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Speaker 2: PM on Q three targets stuff that didn't get done

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Speaker 2: in Q two and polls on planes and Murray Wards

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Speaker 2: Andrew Webster of the worris As. Once again we asked

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Speaker 2: is this our year? Mccatherine Field with the vote shackdown

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Speaker 2: in France and Rod Liddall with a vote prediction in

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Speaker 2: the UK asking seven past six, Welcome to the day.

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Speaker 2: Like New Zealand are speaking of elections. Like New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: Australia doesn't have many one term governments. Generally speaking, you

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Speaker 2: get a couple of terms at least three isn't unheard of.

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Speaker 2: Beyond that you're making history. Of course, Anthony Albanese was

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Speaker 2: a shoe in for two at least until last week.

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Speaker 2: Suddenly he wasn't. Peter Dutton, the leader of the oppositions

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Speaker 2: overtaking the prime minister as preferred prime minister. That in

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Speaker 2: itself is a little short of a mirror. Dutton isn't

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Speaker 2: particularly pleasant or fun or lovable or likable. He's not

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Speaker 2: the sort of bloke you'd invite for beers, and yet

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Speaker 2: here he is. What's also remarkable is he's done it

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Speaker 2: on a couple of things. One alban easy in the

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Speaker 2: fact he's hopeless. He has the economy and the cost

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Speaker 2: of living crisis. He has the mess around the detainees,

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Speaker 2: the illegal migrants, and the courts and the rearrests and

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Speaker 2: the drama you may or may not have been following.

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Speaker 2: So in that Dutton has been lucky. But the other

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Speaker 2: bit is the nuclear debate. The nuclear debate was driven

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Speaker 2: by the announcement that the Coalition the Opposition will pull

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Speaker 2: Australia out of the Paris Accord, not because they don't

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Speaker 2: want to help the planet, but because they argue it's

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Speaker 2: not realistic. The gap is too big, the promise is

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Speaker 2: too grandiose, and that level of common sense seems to

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Speaker 2: have landed well with your average Australian. Next step, what

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Speaker 2: are we doing to fill that gap? If it's not

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Speaker 2: coal or gas answer nuclear what a call. But and

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Speaker 2: here's the stunning bit, it hasn't been blown out of

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Speaker 2: the water. It hasn't been automatically and hysterically rejected. That too,

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Speaker 2: as an idea, seems to have landed reasonably well with

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Speaker 2: your average Aussie. Next thing, you know, Dutton's the preferred

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Speaker 2: Prime minister. Maw the election elbow doesn't have to go

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Speaker 2: into next year, but increasingly they argue this year is

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Speaker 2: a real possibility. What was not long ago a cakewalk,

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Speaker 2: a schewin, a foregone conclusion, is now a line call

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Speaker 2: a race. And dear I suggest one of the one

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Speaker 2: that the Labor government might well increasingly be afraid of.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the world is watching Nigel Farage and

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Speaker 2: what he's done in the UK by way of upending

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Speaker 2: the whole contest. But as spectacular as that is, he

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Speaker 2: won't be PM Peter Dunton from nowhere just might.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds now.

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Speaker 2: The fallout from the French vote continues to unfold as

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Speaker 2: they hit to Sunday for the runoff. This bloke's on

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Speaker 2: the burger being the PM.

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Speaker 4: I am reaching out to focus on the right, the

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Speaker 4: center and the East ball left who don't want to

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Speaker 4: see John Leech Mehnchap become prime minister. That would mean insurrection,

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Speaker 4: chaos and an economic disorder for our country.

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Speaker 2: This bloke's urging everyone to vote for anyone but that guy.

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Speaker 3: For those people.

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Speaker 5: If you see the fire rights very direct, breast, we

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Speaker 5: have to fight to the end and make sure that

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Speaker 5: France remains France.

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Speaker 2: We also had the UK vote this Thursday. Reshu's handing

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Speaker 2: out warnings.

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Speaker 6: I don't want Britain to sleep walk into the danger

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Speaker 6: of what an unchecked labor government with a supermajority would mean,

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Speaker 6: and that means handling labor a blank check that people

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Speaker 6: won't be able to get back.

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Speaker 2: The next prime minister taking himself enters unpopularity seriously.

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Speaker 5: I said, I've got a strategy and we will do it.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we've done under my leadership. We have

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Speaker 5: taken this party, we have changed it. And here we

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Speaker 5: stand on the Monday before the election, ready to change

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Speaker 5: our country for the better.

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Speaker 2: And in Deby of the Lib Dims hasn't taken himself

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Speaker 2: remotely seriously.

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Speaker 7: He began the day with a bungee jump in East Sussex,

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Speaker 7: telling voters to take a leap of faith. Well sir ed,

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Speaker 7: then moved on to a zumba session. Finally, the Lib

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Speaker 7: Dem leader was back on the water again, clearly keen

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Speaker 7: to get attention by any means.

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Speaker 2: And then stateside a bombshell of sorts from the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 8: The President may not he prosecuted for exercising his core

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Speaker 8: constitutional powers, and he is entitled, at a minimum to

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Speaker 8: a presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts.

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Speaker 8: That immunity applies equally to all occupants of the Oval office.

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Speaker 2: I will work you through the finder detail of that

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Speaker 2: and more up to seven o'clock. Finally, the rise of

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Speaker 2: the booze free generation is continuing. We've got a new

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Speaker 2: survey out of the Ucats found twenty seven percent of

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Speaker 2: adults and our non drinkers. That jumps to thirty six

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Speaker 2: percent for people under twenty five compared to twenty four

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Speaker 2: percent a couple of years ago, so that's a major change.

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Speaker 2: Fifty seven percent still describe themselves as drinkers, while there

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Speaker 2: is now a new flexi category. Sixteen percent of Brits

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Speaker 2: who say they switch between the alcoholic and the non

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Speaker 2: alcoholic on a night out. Our biggest booze is of

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Speaker 2: the gen X, of course, born between sixty five and eighty,

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Speaker 2: followed by the Boomers. So that's a big cheers to

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Speaker 2: News of the World in ninety seconds. Yes, Britain could

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Speaker 2: become a soft touch, and this is an interesting aspect

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Speaker 2: of the campaign that she might well be. When he's

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Speaker 2: wandering around saying I don't want Britain sleep walking into

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Speaker 2: a supermajority, he's basically given up, hasn't he. I mean,

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Speaker 2: not only is it conceiving that Labour's gonna win, it's

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Speaker 2: just if you couldn't give them a super majority, that'd

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Speaker 2: be really nice, thank you very much. But what he's

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Speaker 2: also on this morning is concerned that Britain as all

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Speaker 2: of Europe moves to the right. You got France, Germany, Italy, Hungry,

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Speaker 2: pick a country, they're all moving to the right, which

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Speaker 2: is of course a cramp down or clampdown on immigration.

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Speaker 2: As Britain moves to the left, where does that leave

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Speaker 2: all the illegal immigrants? So that's not an unfair warning

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Speaker 2: to issue. Twelve minutes past five six seven.

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Speaker 3: Gone, Mike Costing Breakfast little.

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Speaker 2: Bit said there was some expectation when Ian McKellen fell

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Speaker 2: off the stage last week. He would be back in

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Speaker 2: the production. They said it wasn't too bad and he's

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Speaker 2: looking forward to getting back into it. He's announced overnight

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Speaker 2: he will not appear in the tour in Britain at all,

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Speaker 2: with the greatest of reluctance. The doctor said you better

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Speaker 2: go home and rest up. So we wish it well.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past six, I can't sever dam Ken Jmi Wealth,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Keller Hurt, good morning, very good morning, Mike. Now jobs,

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Speaker 2: where are we at? God dog, good old jobs. So

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Speaker 2: look the labor market.

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Speaker 9: It's sort of the I suppose the economy's response to

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Speaker 9: the sort of economic damage of inflation going up and

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Speaker 9: monetary policy response. It's the labor markets or the last

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Speaker 9: domino to fall. And there's some broadly based expectations out

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Speaker 9: there that unemployment were left. It's currently seeing just about

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Speaker 9: four percent. Yesterday, Stats New Zealand released what are called

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Speaker 9: the Monthly Employment Indicators. That provides us with what is

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Speaker 9: called the filled job series. So this data comes from

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Speaker 9: income tax data and now normally our lens into the

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Speaker 9: employment market comes from things like the Courtly Labor Force surveys.

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Speaker 9: A household of labor before survey the QEES. This start

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Speaker 9: is a bit different because actually looks at who's paying tax.

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Speaker 9: So this is data for May. It is unchanged from April,

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Speaker 9: or filled jobs are unchanged from April.

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Speaker 2: If I look at it a.

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Speaker 9: Year ago, VISs a year ago up zero point nine percent.

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Speaker 9: But you have to, as with all of these numbers,

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Speaker 9: view that number of relation to the very strong population

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Speaker 9: growth that we've seen. So maybe over the last twelve

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Speaker 9: months one hundred and thirty thousand more people in the country,

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Speaker 9: so population growth sort of running it, or two and

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Speaker 2: Say so, job's.

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Speaker 9: Growth is well below population growth, which suggests the jobs

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Speaker 9: market is pretty weak, and things like the Seek Job

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Speaker 9: ad start is suggesting that as well. So it seems

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Speaker 9: to be pointing to an unavoidable left in the unemployment

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Speaker 9: rate that's in front of us. We've already seen that

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Speaker 9: trend starting, and I think we can be reasonably confident

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Speaker 9: that it will continue. The question is just how far

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Speaker 9: does that trend run.

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Speaker 2: Quick look at the breakdown.

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Speaker 9: Primary industries down one point seven percent, goods producing industries,

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Speaker 9: flat service intries up zero point one percent. I thought

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Speaker 9: the age breakdown was sort of instructive. Though if we

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Speaker 9: compare filled jobs now to a year ago, big fall

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Speaker 9: in filled jobs for fifteen to nineteen year olds always

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Speaker 9: seems to be the one that gets hit the hardest,

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Speaker 9: those young people. But are lifting jobs for the sort

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Speaker 9: of thirty five through sort of forty four. But yeah,

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Speaker 9: it seems to confirm the current trends.

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Speaker 2: Good and business. What are we expecting today?

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Speaker 9: So this is ends that are the corterly surveyed business

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Speaker 9: opinion looking for. It really to give confirmation of the

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Speaker 9: trends that we've been seeing in the more high frequency

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Speaker 9: data series like the monthly am z Business Outlook that

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Speaker 9: last week, the Amzid Business out we've had all some

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Speaker 9: moderation inflation expectations. This is one of the key numbers

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Speaker 9: I'm looking at, Mike. Inflation expectations are an absolute prerequisite

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Speaker 9: for the getting them anchored. Sorry we're you know, getting

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Speaker 9: them anchored in the zone that the Arbanzi wants to

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Speaker 9: see them in absolute prerequisite for the Arbanes said to

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Speaker 9: even consider lowing the cash rate. And the last QSBO

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Speaker 9: we did see some evidence of those in declines in

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Speaker 9: cost and pricing indicators. So I really want to see

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Speaker 9: that continue.

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Speaker 2: All right, and then we come to China.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the Kaijin, the Kaijin PMI, so you know, we

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Speaker 9: get pmis and we've talked about PMIS before from all

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Speaker 9: over the place. The Kaijin is the unofficial PMI. It's

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Speaker 9: a private sector read. It's more focused on on private

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Speaker 9: company's expert oriented firm. It edged up to fifty one

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Speaker 9: point eight from fifty one point seven. So two things

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Speaker 9: it's expanding. Secondly, good exporting. It's a bit of a

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Speaker 9: glimmer of hope for the Chinese economy. We know the

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Speaker 9: domestic economy is pretty challenged. Suspect we'll see further stimulus measures,

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Speaker 9: but goods exporting is one of the brighter spots. Just

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Speaker 9: very very quickly over night, Mike post that sort of

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Speaker 9: debate over the weekend. Financial markets are now reassessing what

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Speaker 9: a Trump victory means for financial markets. Yes they are,

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Speaker 9: but you might not like what that means because overnight

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Speaker 9: we've seen longer US interest rates go up, so sort

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Speaker 9: of that I suppose the verdict at the moment is

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Speaker 9: potentially a Trump victory.

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Speaker 2: Slightly inflationary, right numbers, please.

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Speaker 9: The DAL Jones is up sixty three points thirty nine

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Speaker 9: one hundred and eighty two, the S and P five

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Speaker 9: hundred is up seven points five four sixty seven, and

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Speaker 9: at the moment, the Nasdaq is up point eight four

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Speaker 9: percent one hundred and forty eight points seventeen eight hundred

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Speaker 9: three points eight one sixty six, the Nicke up forty

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Speaker 9: eight three nine sixty three to one. Shanghai comps it

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Speaker 9: hundred yesterday seven seven five oh and we gained seventy

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Speaker 2: Got some interesting stats this morning that show the move

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm on the subject of Wimbledon. I know there's

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Speaker 2: Not really, not if you tasted it. Twenty two minutes

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Speaker 2: Bernie Smith's back, well thiss Bernie, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: How much do you reckon of what kaying or has

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Speaker 13: Oh, look at one hundred percent the servants of the government.

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Speaker 13: So the Housing Minister needs to think blaming one or

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Speaker 2: See good change coming with the refreshing of the board,

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Speaker 13: I think so. I think the government's onto a good thing.

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Speaker 2: And was that fundamentally what Bill English found, in other words,

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that was part of the problem. We

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Speaker 2: So you would argue it can be done differently, because

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Speaker 2: Was there a distortion in the market, in other words,

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Speaker 13: Oh, certainly. One of my frustrations was that the government

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Speaker 2: If they do this right, how long before you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. Bernie appreciate it very much. Bernie Smith,

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Speaker 3: Answered every question you were asked.

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Speaker 2: Coyinger Ara Micaeh looking to buy a surplus land around

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Speaker 2: a redundancy means the job no longer exists, and yet

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Speaker 2: How can you make a CEO redundant? You're either sacking

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Speaker 2: leaving of his own volition, he doesn't get paid. If

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Speaker 2: you're sacking him, he doesn't get paid. So how do

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Speaker 2: you make somebody redundant you're then going to replace? So

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you. Good morning. Some of the

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Speaker 2: is on edge. Is that a fair assessment of what's happened?

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Speaker 14: Or not?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 15: I think that's very fair. It could also be an understatement, Mike.

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Speaker 15: Really the tension is just palpable. Nobody quite knows where

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Speaker 15: this is going to end. We're looking it possibly another

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Speaker 15: twenty four to thirty six hours before we find out

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Speaker 15: who will actually be standing in the second round of

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Speaker 15: the elections. Of course, this big shot that Marine Lapin's

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Speaker 15: national rallies scored what one in three votes for the

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Speaker 15: first round of the legislative elections, but no one really

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Speaker 15: expected it to be quite that high. Even sort of

447
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Speaker 15: thought it might be, but no one really put it

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Speaker 15: at that high. So it's almost like there's always like

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Speaker 15: France came to the edge of the cliff, looked over

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Speaker 15: the wops.

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Speaker 2: We don't really want to go there.

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Speaker 15: But still this uncertainty as to what's going to what's

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Speaker 15: going to happen next weekend. But what we're looking at now, Mike,

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Speaker 15: because there's scrambling among all the other parties to form

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Speaker 15: alliances to decide on tactical voting, because we've got that

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Speaker 15: huge block on the left, the Popular Front, which has

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Speaker 15: come away with a lot of votes, a lot of

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Speaker 15: possible treasure there, but they've come together with Macron's party

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Speaker 15: and then now deciding which are their candidates will will

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Speaker 15: withdraw from the race, because in the runoff some of

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Speaker 15: them have got three candidates. So what they're now deciding

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Speaker 15: is between the two of them who will withdraw from

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Speaker 15: the race that will give you under the candidate as

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Speaker 15: strong a chance of coming in ahead of the national rally.

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Speaker 15: So that's where we are tonight. We're looking at having

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Speaker 15: what three hundred and six runoffs at the week next weekend,

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Speaker 15: we've got two hundred more coming.

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Speaker 7: You know that.

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Speaker 15: The only people that seem to be happy about at

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Speaker 15: the moment, Mike, the financial markets who were so pleased

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Speaker 15: that Mahine Lapan didn't win an absolute majority in that

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Speaker 15: first round.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. As they do all

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Speaker 2: of these mad deals, do people see this as a

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Speaker 2: jurymanded type system and do as a voter, you know

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Speaker 2: what you're actually getting when you go to vote for

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Speaker 2: somebody who's done a deal with somebody who may represent

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Speaker 2: something or may not.

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Speaker 15: Well not at the moment, Mike, it's still regarded as

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Speaker 15: you doing your patriotic duty that you're standing up in

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Speaker 15: against the forces of the far right. But you're quite

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Speaker 15: right to point that out. Might because we've had now

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Speaker 15: two presidential elections in a row where you've had Mahine

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Speaker 15: Lapen and the runoff, and everyone said, you cannot vote

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Speaker 15: for the far right. It is just a step too far,

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Speaker 15: and people having to vote for someone because they just

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Speaker 15: don't like them, but they need to keep the far

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Speaker 15: right out. So yeah, you do hear that a lot,

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Speaker 15: and you particularly hear a lot and in younger voters

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Speaker 15: who are saying, well, look, I'm actually more interested in

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Speaker 15: ecological issues, you're interested in cost of living, interested in jobs,

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Speaker 15: and we're having to put all this on hold to

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Speaker 15: not allow the far right to get into powers. So

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Speaker 15: you are hearing that, but for the moment, and I

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Speaker 15: think that's what everyone's saying is it's a patrio duty

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Speaker 15: to make sure that you're voting for someone who isn't

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Speaker 15: the far right.

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Speaker 2: If it doesn't work, is that the biggest cock up

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Speaker 2: in the history of cockups for Macron in calling an

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Speaker 2: election he didn't need to call.

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Speaker 15: I think that's it. This is it is completely backfired,

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Speaker 15: It says Stain on his record. He didn't need to

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Speaker 15: do this. There was this talk that he might dissolve

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Speaker 15: parliament in the autumn, but he didn't need to do that.

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Speaker 15: And it's not just a stain on his record, Mike,

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Speaker 15: It's more that the whole landscape has just swept away

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Speaker 15: everything that Macron bought in back in twenty seventeen to

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Speaker 15: bring him in. And he's got at best three more

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Speaker 15: years of having a parliament where you've got two blocks,

510
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Speaker 15: the far left and the far right in parliament. He

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Speaker 15: just to test one another. So best case scenario is

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Speaker 15: we'll have uncertainty.

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Speaker 2: So, given France have just beaten Belgium, are you going

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Speaker 2: all the way and does that solve everything?

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Speaker 12: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 15: Have you seen any of these matches, it's just been appalling.

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Speaker 15: I mean, most of the French goals in this tournament, Mike,

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Speaker 15: have been scored. Have you owned goals? And I noticed

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Speaker 15: the French commentators were just saying when France went through

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Speaker 15: on this one, which was an own goal scored by Belgium,

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Speaker 15: they're saying, well, you know, own goals seems to been

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Speaker 15: the best scorer for France in this tournament so far.

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Speaker 2: To see you, Catherine appreciate it very much. Just a

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Speaker 2: quick note, by the way that Badella, who's the twenty

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Speaker 2: eight year old Marine la Pennz picked the prime minister.

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Speaker 2: He will only take the job if he gets to

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Speaker 2: eighty nine seats or the party gets to eighty nine seats,

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Speaker 2: which is the majority. Generally speaking, it is thought they

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Speaker 2: won't get there, which means he won't take the job,

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Speaker 2: which means we are in as of this coming Sunday,

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Speaker 2: for a stalemate. But that is yet to unfold. Nine

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Speaker 2: to seven the cost breakfast with like out of curiosity?

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Speaker 2: What defines the far right? I've raised this on the program.

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Speaker 2: Very good question. I've raised this on the program many

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Speaker 2: times before. The more popular you to get, are you

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Speaker 2: still far or just right or indeed popular or indeed

537
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Speaker 2: eventually if you're really popular centrist Donald Trump, presumpt of immunity.

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Speaker 2: You cannot overstate what has happened here at the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: The president is not above the law, This is John Roberts.

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Speaker 2: But under our system of separated powers, the president may

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Speaker 2: not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers, and

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Speaker 2: he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution

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Speaker 2: from his official acts. So do my went off, Kotenji

544
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Speaker 2: Brown Jackson went off, and Roberts had to strike, Becky said,

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Speaker 2: they strike a tone of chilling doom that is wholly

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Speaker 2: disproportionate to what the court actually does today. So dom

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Speaker 2: Or and Jackson off are also, he said, no constitutional

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Speaker 2: basis for rejecting the idea that a president should have

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Speaker 2: such immunity. The key to this is when's he a president,

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Speaker 2: when's he not? And with a guy like Trump, during

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Speaker 2: Trump's ever going to not be president, I'm always president

552
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Speaker 2: is that I'm always president, is what he will say.

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Speaker 2: So we'll have to get into this after seven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz on the Mike Husking breakfast on News Talk,

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Speaker 1: said b.

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Speaker 2: But it's defauteur into China and their so called economic recovery.

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Speaker 2: We got some shaky ground here. A couple of measures

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Speaker 2: to look out this morning. Factory activity among China's private

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Speaker 2: firms activities expanded at its fastest pace three year. Is

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Speaker 2: bing good. They're producing more to meet domestic and international demand.

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Speaker 2: Flip side, official government survey showed contraction, especially among the

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Speaker 2: larger state owned manufacturers. So if you look at both

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Speaker 2: these through the PMI, the Purchasing Manager's Index Monthly Indicator

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Speaker 2: of economic activity. Anything above fifty is good. Below fifty

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Speaker 2: not good. Private firms pm I fifty one point eight

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Speaker 2: in June. Now that is the sixth straight month of

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Speaker 2: improvementing good state companies. They're sitting at forty nine to five.

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Speaker 16: Wrong.

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Speaker 2: Why am I doing these noises, Glenn, I'm sure you've

572
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Speaker 2: got some sort of miche cama. Help me out. Second

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Speaker 2: consecutive month of contraction overall. Now it's too late. I've

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Speaker 2: already done the numbers. Overall manufacturing supply, domestic demand and

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Speaker 2: exports continue to grow for June. Exports jump seven point

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Speaker 2: six percent, good, which beat analysts forecast. But the outlook

577
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Speaker 2: isn't flash as manufacturers will soon get hit by the

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Speaker 2: tariffs from both the US and the EU.

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Speaker 13: Bad.

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Speaker 2: That's right, there we go, We got there, We got

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Speaker 2: there in the end. That was very serious radio program.

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Speaker 2: By the way, don't leave all that shenanigans full you business.

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Speaker 2: What are we going to do about the business of crime?

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Speaker 2: It looks like, and I've got some stats after the news,

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Speaker 2: it looks like we might be starting to have an impact.

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Speaker 2: So all of that's good. Christopher luxenan to talk about

587
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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of stuff on Q two. He didn't

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Speaker 2: explain yesterday. Have to call him out on this. Yesterday

589
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Speaker 2: they said they missed on Q two this reorganization of

590
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Speaker 2: tip of King of the National Polytech shambles. Somebody did

591
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Speaker 2: ask how come you missed it? And he didn't give

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Speaker 2: a proper explanation. So I am the home of proper explanation,

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Speaker 2: so we'll get to the bottom of that. He's with

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Speaker 2: us and Andrew Webster, coach of the Warriors. Is this

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Speaker 2: our year?

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Speaker 3: The breakfast show you Can Trust?

597
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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, The Art of Performance News.

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Speaker 2: Togs dB on seven past seven. The government's third quarter

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Speaker 2: action plan will focus on law and order. It's going

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Speaker 2: to pass four bits of law to crack down on

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Speaker 2: criminal activity, including a band on gag patches letting police

602
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Speaker 2: confiscate firearms. Of course, are we at last on to

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Speaker 2: something effective? Here A chair of the Dairy and Business

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Speaker 2: Owners Group, Sonny Cool shows back. Well the sunny very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that we're getting somewhere or not?

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Speaker 11: Look, the government is on right track. You know, we

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Speaker 11: are seeing police getting on front foot. That's a good

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Speaker 11: sign and there need to be consequences and we haven't

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Speaker 11: seen this from years, you know. Good to see crackdown

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Speaker 11: on bad behavior like over the wrong weekend the boyrases

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Speaker 11: were hit with large operations in Wellington, christ Church, Manuatu.

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Speaker 11: So suddenly we're seeing the efforts coming through here.

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Speaker 2: Good. What about the courts and whether the justices are

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Speaker 2: on board around these new laws and sentencing and things

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Speaker 2: like that. Do you see that yet and do you

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Speaker 2: worry that they won't ever be on board?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Look, we need a lot more needs to be done here.

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Speaker 11: We would like to see powers to security guards, shopkeepers

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Speaker 11: and to be honest for any right thinking kibiz. We're

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Speaker 11: talking about farmers or any business owners. The citizens asked

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Speaker 11: powers in most cases do not kick off until nine pm.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that as much as you want that

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Speaker 2: that's realistic? How many dairy owners do you reckon if

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Speaker 2: given the power, would actually execute a citizen's arrest?

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Well, a majority of them would write, because they are

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Speaker 11: responsible citizens of New Zealand and they know what they're doing.

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Speaker 11: You know, they should not be attacked every day by

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Speaker 11: the corporators. And we would like to see some changes

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Speaker 11: and also the law of self defense need to be

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Speaker 11: redefined or clarified.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Mike Mitchell, police minister, on the

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Speaker 2: program before run six o'clock this morning. He suggested the

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Speaker 2: police are basically what you're seeing here is what the

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Speaker 2: police always wanted to do. In other words, they were

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Speaker 2: simply held back by the previous government and now they're

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Speaker 2: doing what they want to do. Would that be your assessment?

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Speaker 14: Well, the.

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Speaker 11: Solution is going back to the you know, the the

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Speaker 11: model of seventeen twenty seventeen model, and the police need

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Speaker 11: to be out there and that's the deterrent factor most

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Speaker 11: of the keys would like to see happening right now.

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Speaker 11: The offenders they have no fear of law, no set

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Speaker 11: of police, no set of being caught or any consequences whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully things are changing. Soundy good to catch up. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: to Sunny Corsil, who's the dairy in business owner's head.

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Speaker 2: Nine minutes past seven speaking which are we got some

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Speaker 2: insights some stats from the police on their focus on

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Speaker 2: this violence and retail crime. So we've got ram raids

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Speaker 2: down eighty three percent on August of last year. Foot

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Speaker 2: patrols are increasing sixty three percent in Central Auckland around

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Speaker 2: seventy four percent of Now this is the key. Seventy

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Speaker 2: four percent of children and young people put through Fast

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Speaker 2: Track Youth offending programs haven't been referred back. Assistant Commissioner Investigations,

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Speaker 2: Paul Bacham's with us. Paul, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: What's happening here? That's seventy four percent stat I give

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Speaker 2: with the children young persons. Are they being treated differently?

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Speaker 2: Are they being in the system for the first time?

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Speaker 2: What's happened there?

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Speaker 14: Well, I think what you're sort of seeing there is

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Speaker 14: evidence of the kind of collective ambition of agencies like

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Speaker 14: police and a manga tomareiki working together to try and

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Speaker 14: keep these kids out of the system and to prevent

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Speaker 14: them from in the first place. You know, we have

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Speaker 14: as an agency old dobbers to hit our hands on

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Speaker 14: these offenders. And you know, let's be clear, a lot

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Speaker 14: of these children and use that we refer to generically

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Speaker 14: very troubled kids. But they are out there in the

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Speaker 14: environment causing a lot of crime, and often causing crime

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Speaker 14: that's associated with violent so pleasers. Peace of this is

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Speaker 14: to get our hands on them and to bring them

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Speaker 14: into the system, and I think the fast Track is

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Speaker 14: an example where we are able to do that and

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Speaker 14: work productively with other agencies like ordering a Tamariki and

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Speaker 14: other various multi agency groups that come into that space,

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Speaker 14: you can have some success in keeping their use in

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Speaker 14: children out of the system and therefore preventing further crime

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Speaker 14: and harm out there.

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Speaker 2: We talk about us in the community seeing the difference.

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Speaker 2: Cops are on the street, We're seeing the stats. I'm

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Speaker 2: reading the stats out Do you feel, as police you

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Speaker 2: are tangibly now making a difference.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Look, I'd like to speak to the dedication and the

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Speaker 14: effort of the police officers, the front line responders, and

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Speaker 14: our investigators, our major crime teams and others are out

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Speaker 14: there dealing with this day in and day out. I

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Speaker 14: think the statistics are positive. We're not sort of we're

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Speaker 14: not declaring victory or anything like that. We understand that

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Speaker 14: there's a lot of work that needs to be done.

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Speaker 14: But I can provide your listeners with a high degrave

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Speaker 14: re assurance that we are really keen and very positive

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Speaker 14: about being out there and being visible and very driven

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Speaker 14: to hold these offenders in the sort offending account.

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Speaker 2: Do you think just the visibility is a chilling effect.

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Speaker 2: In other words, they've tried it on. They're not afraid

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Speaker 2: of the law because there is no law to be seen.

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Speaker 2: Suddenly the law is there on the corner. Suddenly the

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Speaker 2: crime drops. Is that that simple or is there more

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Speaker 2: to it than that?

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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, there probably is a bit more to it

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Speaker 14: than that, But you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 14: you know, policing, certainly, the model that we follow here

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Speaker 14: based on an English model over the last one hundred

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Speaker 14: years or so, it comes back to some pretty sort

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Speaker 14: of consistent basics and being visible and being in the

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Speaker 14: right place undertaking the right sort of blessing activity. In

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Speaker 14: this case, you know, increasing foot patrols, and we've made

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Speaker 14: announcements recently about what we're doing in that space. There's

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Speaker 14: plenty of science out there that so this says those

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Speaker 14: simple acts of being visible and providing that reassurance is

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Speaker 14: really effective. It creates risk for offenders that might run

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Speaker 14: a roll the dice and take a chance somewhere, but

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Speaker 14: it also provides the community and others with a high

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Speaker 14: degree of reassurance. So it takes a lot of boxes

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Speaker 14: and it's a basic, simple, pleasing deployment model that's been

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Speaker 14: around for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: Paul, appreciate your time very much, Paul Basham, who's the

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Speaker 2: Assistant Commissioner in charge of investigations, and so nicely summed

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Speaker 2: up in one answer, isn't it if you're visible and

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Speaker 2: you're in the right place. It's been around for a

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Speaker 2: long time time and we're suddenly back into it, and gosh,

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Speaker 2: it works. Thirteen past seven, getting here correctly, Marke, the

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Speaker 2: thirteen year old charge with murder and deneed might be

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Speaker 2: on trial until febru twenty twenty six. You did, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is unbelievable. But we raised it at the time

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago when the charges were initially laid.

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Speaker 2: That's another aspect of the system that needs addressing. It

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Speaker 2: is so backed up. I think Mark gives the regular update.

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Speaker 2: It's something like fifty percent of people in prison at

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Speaker 2: the moment are on remand the court system is so

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Speaker 2: backed up getting something to trial as a major thirteen

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Speaker 2: past the Mike Hostle breakfast, Christopher Luxon after the seventh

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Speaker 2: thirty News, and Andrew Webster after eight sixteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: So the US Supreme Court overnight decided that Trump or

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Speaker 2: the president really does have some level of immunity, but

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Speaker 2: not complete immunity. When it comes to his action sixty

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Speaker 2: to three decision, Sodamoyl went off and means the case

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Speaker 2: goes back to a lower court, will not be heard

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Speaker 2: before the election, which is part of this equation of course.

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Speaker 2: So where are we at, Philip Bumpers with the Washington

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Speaker 2: Post of course, and his back with it's Philip, very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you, you too. How political is this

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Speaker 2: versus how legal?

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Speaker 12: Well, it's hard to say. I mean, there's obviously it's

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Speaker 12: deeply intertwined with politics, almost inescapably. So you know, the

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Speaker 12: majority on the court would certainly argue that it is

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Speaker 12: solely an assessment of the legal issues at hand. I

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Speaker 12: think that it is hard to defend. They sort of

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Speaker 12: used the issue of Donald Trump having been indicted on

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Speaker 12: these ceteral charges as a rationale to create this sense

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Speaker 12: of immunity, which they pointed out they've never been needed before,

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Speaker 12: but of courses because there'd never been before been an

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Speaker 12: attempt to overturn the results in election. So you know,

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Speaker 12: it is inescapably political, But they would argue that it

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Speaker 12: is a legalistic assessment.

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Speaker 2: Is the crux of it? Who decides when he's president

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Speaker 2: and when he wasn't.

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Speaker 12: No, the crux of it is to what extent can

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Speaker 12: the decisions that Donald Trump made in his effort to

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Speaker 12: try and retain power be excused as these sorts of

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Speaker 12: things that he was doing as president?

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Speaker 16: Right?

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Speaker 12: So, you know, for example, if he went to the

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Speaker 12: Attorney general and said, hey, you should investigate these people

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Speaker 12: because there was voter fraud, the Sereeboard says that counts

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Speaker 12: as presidential action and therefore immune because that's something a

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Speaker 12: president does stocks the attorney general. If he went to

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Speaker 12: the state of Arizona and said, hey, State of Arizona,

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Speaker 12: you need to overturn your election results, that's something he's

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Speaker 12: doing as a candidate and not as a as a president,

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Speaker 12: you know, not as part of his presidential duties. Therefore

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Speaker 12: he's not immune from prosecution on that. But the return

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Speaker 12: to the Lower Court was on the question of his

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Speaker 12: pressuring Vice President Tens to reject electors in certain states.

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Speaker 12: They are saying that the lower court needs to decide

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Speaker 12: was that something that was part of his president's duties

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Speaker 12: or not?

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Speaker 2: Okay? When sedumai Al says orders the Navy sealed team

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Speaker 2: six to assassinate a political rival immune. Is she right?

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Speaker 12: Yes, she's right that if he says, as the commander

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Speaker 12: in chief of the US military that the Team six

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Speaker 12: should go and murder Joe Biden, you know, assuming that

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Speaker 12: he's president, assuming that Trump is president, that he has

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Speaker 12: right to do so, that Biden could do.

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Speaker 16: Solicers it right.

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Speaker 12: So there are of course other remedies that could play here.

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Speaker 12: For example, there he could be impeached by the House

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Speaker 12: and then remove from office by the Senate. We obviously

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Speaker 12: saw that didn't work very well in terms of holding

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Speaker 12: Trump to account when he was actually president, but he

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Speaker 12: could not be prosecuted for that under this interpretation of

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Speaker 12: the Supreme courts.

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Speaker 2: It goes back to court, of course, not until after

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Speaker 2: the election. Can we call this then for him for

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Speaker 2: now a whin?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, unquestionably. I mean this is this is a novel

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Speaker 12: application of how presidential power is understood that Donald Trump

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Speaker 12: asked for explicitly, and that the Supreme Court, you know,

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Speaker 12: the distinction between presidential immune for things he did as

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Speaker 12: a presidential action and not. It's a very very subtle distinction. Essentially,

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Speaker 12: this gives him everything that he wanted to mention The exactly.

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Speaker 2: Notice to sketch up with you. Appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Philip imp Out of the Washington Post this morning. The

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Speaker 2: side of my old stuff is fascinating. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: hold on to power. Immune takes a bribe in exchange

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Speaker 2: Immune with fear for our democracy. I dissent. So these

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Speaker 2: are strange and weird times, aren't they. Twenty minutes past seven.

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Speaker 2: The fruits or otherwise of a lot of the stuff

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Speaker 2: The education reforms are likely many years away. The economy

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Speaker 2: that stuff. You can see the cops on the street

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Speaker 2: So a mix of things that have happened, are happening

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Speaker 2: tend to be popular governments. I like the coalition so far.

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Speaker 2: Not ideal, of course, because three of anything is generally

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Speaker 2: a compromise, but so far, so good. And this has

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Speaker 2: And that is in part because of the extraordinary mess

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Speaker 2: we're in Economically, hard to revel in a new administration

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Speaker 2: that's cutting and pruning and giving out hard economic lessons,

869
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Speaker 2: and yet they seem broadly to be doing it reasonably successful.

870
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: There's a competence about them as well, based on experience,

871
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: whether political or real world. My standouts are for what

872
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 2: they count for whatever. So far, Peter's Peters is superb

873
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: on the international stage, or has been superb on the

874
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: international stage. Seymour's driving logical common sense change in places

875
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: like far mac willis, by the way, proving more than

876
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: up to the job. I would have thought Stanford may

877
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: well turn out to be a rock star. Not as

878
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: high profile, of course, but don't underestimate the size of

879
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: change coming our way in schools for sheer entertainment mixed

880
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: with determination. I love Shane Jones for now. They seem

881
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: to have momentum, They have the we inherited a mess,

882
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: so we need to fix it. Excuse so so far

883
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: as Action Planned two closes, Q three starts, no regrets

884
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: on getting rid of the last lot sky like, isn't

885
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: it amazing what a change in government and common sense

886
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: brings to it. As a CBS poll and this is

887
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: the insight into how warped the American voter. At CBS

888
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: poll of Republican voters mid June, Should Trump have immunity?

889
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: Sixty percent say yes. Should any president have immunity? Forty

890
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: three percent say yes, So we don't like community lessons

891
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: for Tree. You go poll for Republican voters. This is

892
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: in May. Should Trump have broad immunity? Sixty nine percent

893
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: say yes? Should any poters have immunity? Forty seven say yes,

894
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: So as long as the Trump can do whatever he likes,

895
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: and you will need to pardon. As for those other

896
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: blokes not really interested, can't make this stuff up. So

897
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: Christopher Luckxon in the next half, how plenty has always

898
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: to cover off there? And I will get a thing

899
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: around the redundancy and the kayeing or it's not directly

900
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: his department, because the board make those sort of decisions,

901
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: but it's an interesting interpretation. And what I do like

902
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: around the Regional Infrastructure Fund this time around three billion

903
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: last time, not so much this time around. It appears

904
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: this time around we're dealing more with loans as opposed

905
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: to just straight up and down handouts, and that strikes

906
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: me as vastly more sensible. That once again is the

907
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: common sense, same idea. And yet you lend people money,

908
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: you don't just give people money so what happens to

909
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: the accountability more with Christopher Luxon after the News What Big.

910
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: News Bold opinions the Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real

911
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: Estate doing real estate differently Since nineteen seventy three, used

912
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: togs Hed been.

913
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: The Warrior's coach for the catch up art parae aclock

914
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: many times. Tuesday morning, at twenty three minutes away from

915
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: a to Prime Minister, where's Crystopher Luxeon? Good morning? I

916
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm very well indeed, I'm not overly hung up on this,

917
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: but I do want a reasonably clear explanation. I know

918
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: it's not directly your job and moots no idiot, but

919
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: how do you redefine a CEO's role when there will

920
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: be another CEO and treat something as a redundancy when

921
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: it's not a redundancy and write a check?

922
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 17: Yeah, I can't comment too much on the employment meta

923
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 17: between the CEO and the board, but what I'm saying is,

924
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 17: from my point of view, KO has been an underperforming organization.

925
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 17: That's why we've changed the chair. We are refreshing the

926
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 17: board and I do want to turn around plan by

927
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 17: the end of the year as too. Then the arrangements

928
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 17: with the CEO of the management team that does sit

929
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 17: with Simon and as chair in the board as well.

930
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 17: So I can't get into that detail.

931
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: But all I'm saying, you see, you can't get into it.

932
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: You can't get it because you don't know or because

933
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Speaker 2: you don't want to.

934
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 17: No, because the profit controls is that the decision that

935
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 17: we as a government make is about are the chairs

936
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Speaker 17: and who are the boards? Who are the governors of

937
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 17: those organizations, And that's the thing that we have direct

938
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 17: influence on the management teams. That is something that then

939
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 17: is sorted out between the board and how they get

940
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 17: a brief from government as to what we're saying. I'm

941
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 17: saying very clearly that KAO has been underperforming. It's been chronically.

942
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: Corrected for a long period. But we agree with all

943
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: of that.

944
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 17: You want to change the board and want to turn

945
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 17: around plan, then it's up to the manager. Then it's

946
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 17: up to the board and the government's to work out

947
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 17: what happens.

948
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: So Muta has carte blanche on the checkpocket. Just this

949
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: is an unusual interpretation of redundancy for someone who's not

950
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: being made redundant because the job still exists. I just

951
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: don't understand all on the verification of the thinking.

952
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I guess, I guess, Mike, I don't know

953
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 17: the details. It will be an employment contract and there'll

954
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 17: be you know, entitlements, and it will be a structured

955
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 17: to do with the employment contract, and I don't know.

956
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 17: They could be different by different CEOs, and there'll be

957
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 17: obligations that you know, a board needs to make sure

958
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 17: their meeting and that employment contract arrangement. I don't know

959
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 17: the detail of it. I don't really want to know

960
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 17: the detail of it. What I want to know is

961
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 17: that the KO organization starting to get better.

962
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: Why don't you want to detail of it? I go

963
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: back to the Three Waters and those people who are

964
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: sitting in the Three Waters bodies, knowing full well they

965
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: were going to get laid off, they adjust their contracts

966
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Speaker 2: so the payment's nice and topped up by the time

967
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: they actually get booted out of office. That's just routing

968
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: the system.

969
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 17: Well, I guess, I just thought. I'm focused on as

970
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 17: the forty five billion dollar enterprise that is KO, to

971
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 17: make sure that that's performing. That's what I'm interested in. So, yes,

972
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 17: I appreciate there'll be employment arrangements and contracts that need

973
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 17: to be honored and respected and all that kind of stuff.

974
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 17: But really that is a decision for the board and

975
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 17: the management.

976
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: So in watching, as you know, I do your POSTCAB

977
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: press conference yesterday, the highlight of good woman.

978
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 17: I appreciate it, Mark Mike, and I've got to say

979
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 17: to you, I watch you as well. I watch goggle Box,

980
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 17: which is Hosking shouting at the TV at a Warriors game.

981
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: I have.

982
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 17: That has become addictive viewing very late at night on

983
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 17: YouTube shorts. So that is quite something that you do

984
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 17: as well.

985
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: What do you do?

986
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: I tell my wife not to film me, your wife film?

987
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 17: No, I've had the game on Saturday. She was really

988
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 17: great there. Yeah, no, it was great. And getting into

989
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 17: the change room of those lads afters they've done a

990
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 17: great job. I mean the culture shift there is amazing.

991
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 17: It's very inspiring and it's relevant to politics and business

992
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 17: and that is what you can learn from sports teams

993
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 17: and stuff. But sorry, I.

994
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: Agree, no, yes and d but you come out. So

995
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: the one thing you didn't do was tepa king at

996
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: the Polytech. Why has consultation not even started? And is

997
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: it Penny Simmons fault?

998
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 18: No, it's not.

999
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 17: It's a hell of them. Yes, Hipkins was in charge

1000
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 17: of this for five and a half years. We've spent

1001
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 17: three hundred million dollars, We've got less kids going to polytechnics,

1002
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 17: is low morale, it's a hell of a mess and

1003
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 17: it's not delivering for regionals Regionals New Zealand either. Penny's

1004
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 17: got a good proposal. We've agreed to the proposal. Now

1005
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 17: what she's got to do is practically take that out

1006
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 17: to the public. That's going to happen in the next

1007
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 17: few weeks. So it is genuinely complex and it's there's

1008
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 17: lots of ways you can skin the cat and get change,

1009
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 17: but we to get a system that's set up and

1010
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 17: it's quite enduring. So she's got the proposal approved and

1011
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 17: we've discussed that internally. Now she's got to go out

1012
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 17: and actually get that consultation from different folk in the

1013
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 17: sector as well.

1014
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: Do you feel you're getting some momentum I'm citing polling.

1015
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: You've got support for fast Track, there was another poll

1016
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: on Maury Wards. You've got major support for that. You've

1017
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: even got support on planes. Do you feel that you

1018
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 2: might have now a chunk of New Zealand on side, Well.

1019
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 17: I think you still understand what we've inherited, right, and

1020
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 17: we're doing a turnaround job. And I've done a lot

1021
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 17: of these in a different corporate world and it's different

1022
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 17: the country, and I get all that, but the process

1023
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 17: is similar, which is you have to face the ugly

1024
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 17: stuff and you have to face up to your reality

1025
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 17: and you kind of have to deal with it, and

1026
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 17: then you've got to have plan, not in a combiner sense,

1027
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 17: but actually a proper plan that you can get the

1028
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 17: country and yourself to a much better place. And so

1029
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 17: that's what we're just focused on. Everything's about delivery, everything's

1030
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 17: about I published these quarterly plans and people will say

1031
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 17: to me, you know, why do you do that, Well,

1032
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 17: I'm doing it because I'm trying to be transparent about

1033
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 17: what we're working on as a government in the next

1034
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 17: thirty weeks.

1035
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 18: And some of it is.

1036
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 17: Taking decisions and making sure we get alignment inside our

1037
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 17: government and our coalition to do those programs. A lot

1038
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 17: of it's introducing legislation. This August, you're going to see

1039
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 17: all our gang laws get actually passed into law. That's

1040
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 17: a six month process where we kick that off in

1041
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 17: that first one hundred days now, that's going to be law,

1042
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 17: that'll be picked up by police in October and away

1043
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 17: we'll go. So it does take time, but it's really

1044
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 17: at the moment, it's the turnaround, and you've got to

1045
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 17: just be what's the problem I'm trying to solve. What's

1046
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 17: the common sense solution that deals with that?

1047
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: Right?

1048
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 17: Is that moving forward in the next thirteen weeks or not.

1049
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 17: And it's focusing tremendously a public service that hasn't had direction.

1050
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 17: And it's also focusing my ministers and my conversations with

1051
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 17: them about what I'm expecting from each of them. So

1052
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 17: and it's always done through the mantra of rebuild the economy,

1053
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 17: restore law in order to deliver bit of public services,

1054
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 17: particularly health and education. And that's what we focus on.

1055
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 17: And so I know there's forty actions coming up in

1056
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 17: the next quarter. That was thirty six in the last one,

1057
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 17: forty nine in the first one hundred days, and I

1058
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 17: just make sure that we are just focused on what

1059
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 17: we can do right now that must do stuff that's

1060
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 17: actually setting things up for the future. And that's what

1061
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 17: you have to do when you're turning things around. Put

1062
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 17: the platform, put the foundations in place so that we

1063
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 17: can plant those seeds now that we can actually benefit

1064
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 17: from down the road. So you know, I see polls

1065
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 17: and I'm on top of that, and I see what

1066
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 17: people are saying. But the bottom line is I'm here

1067
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 17: to do a job, and we're here to get the

1068
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 17: country turned around and sorted and if we don't do it,

1069
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 17: we're heading down a really bad pathway. And now's that moment.

1070
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 17: So it is We're driving hard inside government and inside

1071
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 17: the public service. I'm making sure the ministers are support

1072
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 17: bug at the right people on the right assignments, focused

1073
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 17: and passionate about what they're doing, and then I'm holding

1074
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 17: themto account to drive actions every three months. Right, couple

1075
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 17: of different way of running right from how I think

1076
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 17: I observe government from the past, which is that we

1077
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 17: rock up each day. You never quite know what's going

1078
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 17: I never had a sense of what was happening. But

1079
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 17: for right now, it's deal with the mess and then

1080
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 17: in place the platform for big growth because now we

1081
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 17: have a great future. We honestly can have a kick

1082
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 17: ass future, and we've just got to get through this

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Speaker 17: star get inflation down and get interest rates down. Your

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00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 17: economy growing, and then work on those five big drivers

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00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 17: that I think will drive prosperity into the country.

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Speaker 2: A couple of quick timeline answers, transport, when's it coming, tolling,

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00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: all of those ideas from some men brown Win, Well.

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Speaker 17: It'll start coming in, I know, you know, looking at

1089
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 17: ruck and looking at tolling and congestion charging, all that

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Speaker 17: sort of stuff. He'll start working through those proposals. He's

1091
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 17: got quite developed thinking on it right now, but I

1092
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 17: think it will start kicking in the middle.

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Speaker 16: Of next year.

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Speaker 17: You'll see it certainly twenty five into twenty six.

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Speaker 12: Yep.

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Speaker 11: Defense, it's a.

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Speaker 17: Defense, yeah, defenses. Just so you know, we've got new

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Speaker 17: heads of Army, Navy, air Force, new Chief Defense Office,

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Speaker 17: a new minister and DUDI of Colins and new Secretary

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Speaker 17: of Defense as well. So I've got six new leaders

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Speaker 17: and what I'm asking them to do is build me

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00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 17: a ground up, proper strategy that I know for the

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00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 17: next ten to twenty years is what these are. The

1104
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 17: domains we're focused on, leads, the capabilities we're going to build.

1105
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 17: Rather than just go out and buy a random bits

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Speaker 17: of kit, I actually want a proper plan and a

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Speaker 17: proper strategy. So I want that new leadership team to

1108
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Speaker 17: work on what's called the Defense Capability Review. But we're

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Speaker 17: looking at that at the end of this by the

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Speaker 17: end of this year, and they're working on that right now.

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Speaker 17: But I want the new leadership team to own it,

1112
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 17: because there's nothing worse than a new group come in

1113
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 17: and say, oh, that was the last last crowds outfit

1114
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 17: strategy and I never quite bored into it. Well, I

1115
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 17: want to hold you to account about delivering on it.

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Speaker 2: Accredited employee of visa changes have been made standard classification

1117
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: for occupations level four and five. Without a pathway to residency,

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00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 2: we're no longer able to support work visitor or student

1119
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Speaker 2: visa applications for partners and dependent children. Some upset at that.

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Speaker 2: Do are we a good enough place to make those

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Speaker 2: sort of calls when we're still desperately short of labor

1122
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: I think we are because it's some Erica Senor and

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Speaker 17: I've talked a lot about essentially what's happened is and

1126
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 17: I've been a big believer of this for a long time.

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Speaker 17: When you look at immigration policy around the world, it

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Speaker 17: works when it's very strongly linked to the economic strategy,

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Speaker 17: and we've had four of our last quarters in recession

1130
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 17: and actually a lot of those lower skilled jobs have

1131
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 17: actually been filled. You know, when you and I were

1132
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 17: talking a year ago, there was shortages in every region,

1133
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 17: every sector, every job across the country. The reality is

1134
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 17: that has changed. But what we've got to do is

1135
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 17: make sure that those higher skilled jobs, the secondary sort

1136
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 17: of teachers, the doctors, the nurses, all of that we've

1137
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 17: still got massive attraction and we're making using on the

1138
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 17: very attractive place. But you do have to flex your

1139
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 17: immigration strategy to match your economic strategy and where you

1140
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 17: are in that cycle. So that's why the changes have

1141
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 17: been made around the accredited visa program, and you know

1142
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 17: that's really our focus, and that's what Eric has just

1143
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 17: tightened up some of that in recent months.

1144
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 2: Regional fun loans as opposed to gifts. Does it bother

1145
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: you some of it's going to go to councils and

1146
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: can't they raise the money themselves?

1147
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 17: Well, I did to say we've done something quite different

1148
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 17: with this Region Infrastructure Fund from what we've previously called

1149
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 17: the Provincial Growth Fund.

1150
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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 17: It's one point two billion, but the criteria is it

1152
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 17: has to be what's called capital expenditure, so it's actually

1153
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 17: hard assets at the Crown will own. So he says

1154
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 17: what's called operational money in there, but before it wasn't

1155
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 17: defined in that way, and that means that then we're

1156
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 17: building infrastructure in the regions that's actually productivity enhancing and

1157
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 17: for the long run. So Shane Jones has done a

1158
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 17: great job. I really respect Shane a lot. He's uber smart,

1159
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 17: he's actually really hard working and he does a great job.

1160
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Speaker 17: But he's sot two hundred million dollars, for example, in

1161
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Speaker 17: flood protection sitting in that. So it's not just a

1162
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 17: lolly scramble where the money goes out the door for X,

1163
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Speaker 17: Y and Z. I want the money being used in

1164
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 17: the regions to build enduring infrastructure, which is how we

1165
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Speaker 17: lift prosperity and actually how we do a whole bunch

1166
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Speaker 17: of things. So he's got two hundred millions as first

1167
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 17: focus is really on flood protections up and down regional

1168
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Speaker 17: m Zealand. Now that's good, you know, that's exactly the

1169
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Speaker 17: sort of thing that a rectional infrastructure should be doing.

1170
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Speaker 17: So that is really the focus is to say, look,

1171
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 17: nine hundred million of the one point two billion has

1172
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Speaker 17: got to be in capital three hundred millions what we

1173
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 17: called operational which he needs some of that to access

1174
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 17: to operationalize that capital expenditure. So we've structured it quite

1175
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Speaker 17: differently in our coalition agreement. And I think it's a

1176
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Speaker 17: really good, good structure, and I think we'll do good things.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Appreciate it. Crystal Luxem Prime Minister, Tuesday Mornings

1178
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 2: and the Mic asking Breakfast.

1179
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: Twelve to Waight the mic costing Breakfast.

1180
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: Michael money. A government spence comes from taxpayers. Luxon isn't

1181
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: interested in how three hundred and thirty five thousands wasted

1182
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: on redundancy payment in States. He's interested in the bigger issue.

1183
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: I get what he's saying, but equally get what you're saying.

1184
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: I was told, if you look after the pennies, the

1185
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: pounds look after themselves, you've got to give people some ripe.

1186
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: In other words, Simon moves as the chairman of the board,

1187
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 2: a Prime minister can't be on top of literally every

1188
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: decision that has made in government every day.

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Speaker 12: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm just naive, but I really

1191
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: believe this guy. Give him enough time, and I think

1192
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: he and his team can turn the ship around. He

1193
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: seems so pragmatic and full of energy and believes you

1194
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: can do this. I feel like a cheerleader. But that

1195
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: is how he comes across for this punter. Thank you, Carolyn.

1196
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: There is momentum. There's no question, there's momentum, and it's

1197
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: all very well to offer an opinion. But those poles,

1198
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: which is why I gave him to if you look

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Speaker 2: at the poles that have been held in the last

1200
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Speaker 2: week or so, around the MARII wards, around the fast track,

1201
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: even the plane. The plane really is. I know it's

1202
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 2: a weird thing. But if you'd gone out at any

1203
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: other time in the political cycle and go, hey, let's

1204
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: have a poll about a plane, what do you reckon

1205
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: the seven five seven, you wouldn't have got anywhere near

1206
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: above fifty percent for people wanting to spend money we

1207
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: don't actually have on a plane. So it gives you

1208
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: an indication. This an element of good will there and

1209
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: a little bit of common sense creeping and lux and Mike,

1210
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: very impressive this morning, is growing into the job. Very well.

1211
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: Great to finally have confidence in our primes. To thank

1212
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: you Ted.

1213
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: Eight to eight The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar News.

1214
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: Tom said, b I just didn't Justice Apartment will charge

1215
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: Boeing with fraud, so we've been standing by. They had

1216
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: until the seventh of July to make that decision. Of course,

1217
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: they cut a deal previously. The claim now is that

1218
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: Boeing didn't live up to the deal, so the pressure

1219
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: was on particularly the family's family is suing forty million

1220
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 2: dollars forty billion dollars rather there's a forty billion or million.

1221
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: I sell like Biden, don't. I don't know the difference

1222
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: in a billion or a million away for the bucket,

1223
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: a bucket a dough. Anyway, they were hoping the Just

1224
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: Department would do something about Boeing. They are, so the

1225
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: charges are coming. This is over the two crashes that

1226
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: caused all the deaths. They're offering a plea deal such

1227
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: as the American system, so they'll want Boeing to pay

1228
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: financially in imposition of an independent monitor to audit the

1229
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: company's safety and compliance practices for three years. They're now

1230
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: waiting for a Boeing response, so it'll be interesting to

1231
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: see where that goes. By the way, and we'll check out.

1232
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Speaker 2: I think we'll get Chris Bishop to answer this, Mike.

1233
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm in the building industry. The cost of building a

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00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: new house is around four hundred forty five hundred dollars

1235
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: a square meter, cost for KOs around seven and a

1236
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: half thousand dollars a square meter. Additional costs are due

1237
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: to the overuse of consultant's architects, engineers and the stupid

1238
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: idea of using all top end products, as well as

1239
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: excessive landscaping that eventually gets trashed. I don't know whether

1240
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: that's true. We will investigate, we'll put our research department

1241
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: onto that, and we'll come back with an answer, because

1242
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 2: if you're talking at two hundred square meter house, that's

1243
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: a massive difference when you're talking about thousands and thousands

1244
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: of houses, aren't you. So we haven't had Andrew Webster

1245
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: on the program for Jesu. Would be several months, wouldn't it.

1246
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: I think it might have even been in the beginning

1247
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: of the season. Was at the beginning of the season? Well, Jesus,

1248
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean, what's happened there? It's over due? Thank god.

1249
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: He's on the program this morning, almost at the end

1250
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: of the season. Andrew Webster of the Warriors after the News,

1251
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: which is next.

1252
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fews, the Mic Hosking

1253
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: Breakfast with our.

1254
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 3: Veda Lived The Age You Feel, News Talks.

1255
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: eDV seven Past day Time for catch up with Andrew Webster.

1256
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: Last time, the season was full of hope and expectation.

1257
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: Of course, since then, like so many seasons, has been

1258
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: a rollercoaster. At the time in shocking last Saturday, we

1259
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: made a comeback against the Broncos and all that. So anyway,

1260
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: where are we at? Andrew Webster back with us? Good morning,

1261
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: morning mate. Now, it's been a while since we've talked,

1262
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: so let's do it this way. The season so far

1263
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: summered up for me from your point.

1264
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 16: Of view, I'll be very inconsistent. Good football probably better

1265
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 16: than most, and our worst football is probably worse than most.

1266
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 16: So we're not really in the middle enough at the moment.

1267
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 16: But I was doing parers the boys are about stack

1268
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 16: on the weekend and we just got to find that

1269
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 16: consistency in the day.

1270
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: Exactly what do you put it down to? How do

1271
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: you explain it?

1272
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 16: It's actually hard to put my finger on it, really,

1273
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 16: and that's my job to work it out. I think

1274
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 16: I think we lost four in a row, and I

1275
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 16: feel like the boys really wanted to increase the intensity

1276
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 16: in the way we trained. I think that that had

1277
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 16: an impact, and I think it's just made sure our

1278
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 16: standards a high and that's what we're trying to do.

1279
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 16: So I think if we do that, we're going to

1280
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 16: consentrate for longer in game, which will help us. And

1281
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 16: if we do that, we're going to get to show

1282
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 16: what we can do. But it's mind helped to make

1283
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 16: sure that we're more consistent what we do every day.

1284
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: How do we I don't want to dwell on it,

1285
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: but the Titans thing was an extraordinary thing. Yeah, and

1286
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: it was one of there seemed to be no comeback either.

1287
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: So you can start poorly, that's okay, you can come

1288
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: back from that, and yet we didn't. What how do

1289
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: you explain that bit of it?

1290
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 16: Well, look, I physically thought it were flat, but I

1291
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 16: just don't think that's enough excuse to concede sixty points.

1292
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 16: And the boys agree, you know that they're taking complete

1293
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 16: ownership around it. I got no answer because I didn't

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01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 16: see it coming. Often, if you're not training while you

1295
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 16: put a full team out on the park, you probably

1296
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 16: think analogy's own room enough here. And I'm not one

1297
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 16: but felt that about Abrup and I could see that

1298
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 16: coming and my one thought thought that they wouldn't turn

1299
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 16: up and you might not get everything right, but at

1300
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 16: least we're going to put an effort in that everyone

1301
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 16: can still be proud of. And yeah, it was a

1302
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 16: shock to the players, and it was shocked to may

1303
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 16: that's for sure.

1304
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: But what do you take out of the comeback we

1305
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: saw over the weekend against the Broncos. Does that solve

1306
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: that problem or does it reassure you to some degree.

1307
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 16: That that problem's gone? Really like that, that game had

1308
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 16: to go. We had to get rid of the woman

1309
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 16: left Australia. The next morning, we had a review in

1310
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 16: the hotel and we watched it and we made sure

1311
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 16: we didn't walk past it. And then I was really wrapped.

1312
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 16: The way the boys said the week up, they were

1313
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 16: pretty motivated and how what they wanted to do. But

1314
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 16: I said to the boys, well, you know, as great

1315
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 16: as I was against the prom code and really proud

1316
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 16: that we bounced back, we're going to find that style

1317
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 16: footing in that game each week and we want to

1318
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 16: do that. We're going to do some really good things

1319
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 16: in this condition. If we don't we're just going to

1320
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 16: keep getting consistent and frustration frustration around the way we play.

1321
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: With one of the frustrations for you all concerns for

1322
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: you as we hit too, I mean with what what

1323
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: do we got left? Nine games? Is it nine weeks?

1324
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: Something like that, right, So as you head towards the

1325
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: end of the season, what you want to do obviously

1326
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: get to the eight, get to four and all that

1327
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: sort of thing. But in the finals football, you want

1328
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: to be able to go into the field in full

1329
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: confidence that you at least can beat any given side

1330
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: given it becomes a knockout. Are you confident enough that

1331
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: that's possible yet or not.

1332
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 16: I'm extremely confident in it because, like I said at

1333
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 16: the start of the interview, our best football is literally

1334
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 16: better than most people's. I literally think that everyone looks

1335
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 16: at our when we were on they think she's Actually

1336
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 16: I think they're probably better than most teams in the competition.

1337
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 16: But it's going to do it for eighty minutes, and

1338
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 16: that's what the good side too. So if we're piecing

1339
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 16: together for eighty that's old football, not like so that's

1340
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 16: my job to get that, Darky was to do that.

1341
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 16: I'm all in confidence we get there, but as you know,

1342
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 16: I don't want to do it. I don't think we've

1343
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 16: even earned the right to talk about finals right now.

1344
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 16: At this time last year we probably weren't. Everyone was

1345
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 16: getting enquirers as this year we've got a good probably

1346
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 16: go as a bit more start talking about the finals.

1347
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: Talk to me about injuries. I mean, one of the

1348
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: highlights of the season surely was the Panthers win with

1349
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: the side most people have never heard of. So what

1350
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: does that say? Does that say young men lifting in

1351
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: the occasion of their life, or some depth that we

1352
01:03:58,880 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: can all be proud of.

1353
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 16: I We'll got some depth and definitely people lifted to

1354
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 16: the occasion. We'd also turned around and did it against Recluse.

1355
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 16: I think we've had more injuries and more players out

1356
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 16: of the week after. Yeah, no, we're definitely We've definitely

1357
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 16: got some definitely got some young gloves coming through. I

1358
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 16: think our reserve its currently second. We won the Harold

1359
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 16: Basis this year. Our whole club, the Fishers in good

1360
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 16: shape and if these players are out of form or

1361
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 16: they're injured, were I think you can call on And

1362
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 16: we've got a bit of a next man hup attitude

1363
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 16: where we don't get overawed or worried that a certain

1364
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 16: players not home. If anything, we get more excited about

1365
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 16: the challenge. And the person here comes in. You got

1366
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 16: a job to there, and he's got to do it,

1367
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 16: and we're backing.

1368
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: Which brings And I suppose that Tomari Martin conversation, not

1369
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: that we want to specifically dwell on that, but but

1370
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: how much do you think how much of the whole

1371
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: Sean Johnson thing is based around because he's a lightning rod,

1372
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: because of who he is, and all of that that

1373
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: people have made up their mind about him or to

1374
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: Marie Martin, or any change or any decisions you may

1375
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: or may not make before we even begin the conversation.

1376
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 16: I get asked all the time it Shawn and to

1377
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 16: mighty played a lot of good football to go to

1378
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 16: the start of last season, won a lot of games. Yeah,

1379
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 16: but also it almost almost the daily end player of

1380
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 16: the year is probably I thought he was the best

1381
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 16: player in the competition, and to say that is I mean,

1382
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 16: she's one of the best players in the world. To man,

1383
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 16: I feel is stilled up during times when it was

1384
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 16: almost than available, and as a result of that, I

1385
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 16: think he's got to show what he can do. So

1386
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 16: I think it's it's I think people probably reading too much.

1387
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 16: And I think they're both played football, and I think

1388
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 16: a lot of clubs would love to half backs, and

1389
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 16: half backs are pretty rare and in the world solo

1390
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 16: complete facing both of them, and I love the way

1391
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 16: I play. I think I think everyone probably real frustration.

1392
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 16: It's just came back to here and played it and

1393
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 16: it didn't look great. But it didn't look great because

1394
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 16: we considered sixty points we had known to do with

1395
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 16: our attack, but for some reason everyone was looking at

1396
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 16: our attack and defense, which that was frustrating.

1397
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: Exactly. Hold on a couple of moms more in the moment.

1398
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 2: Andrew Webs, the coach of the Warriors, fourteen past.

1399
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 3: The Mic Hosking Breakfast.

1400
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 2: News Talks at me sixteen past eight Andrew Webs and

1401
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: the guests now listen. We talked about depth to Mima Toga.

1402
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: What about this injury? Told so, is it like a

1403
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: crapshoot thing you lose people you wouldn't expect it. I mean,

1404
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: is there anything that can be done, you know, physically, physical, training, weights, whatever,

1405
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: that you can protect yourself a bit more? Is that

1406
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: just life?

1407
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 16: Do you reckon I don't know. We try, and we

1408
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 16: try and prevents just as much as we try and

1409
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 16: recover people from injuries. So like a lot of street

1410
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 16: work weights, the new exercises I've never ever heard of

1411
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 16: in my life to give them these things, and there's

1412
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 16: a lot of science around it. But yeah, we also

1413
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 16: you can't avoid the freak incidents of the broken bones.

1414
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 16: Those things. They're pretty hard to control just because of

1415
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 16: the force of the game. And Martha, they've had a

1416
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 16: bad run with the fractures this year. But the ankle injuries,

1417
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 16: I think they're so powerful and strong they've been in

1418
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 16: them back over and that their ankles are stuck underneath

1419
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 16: them and the NRLs try to outlaw that that. We've

1420
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 16: been getting a lot of those injuries this season. But

1421
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 16: the big one, the big one for me is believes

1422
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 16: are very professional and you know, and we've got a

1423
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 16: great staff that help us with that. But I think

1424
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 16: the game is getting harder. I think the whole NRL

1425
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 16: struggling with injuries at the moment, and so this playing

1426
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 16: is such a such a speed in the balls and

1427
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 16: play for so long physically harder.

1428
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: To me exactly, and as much as we may obsess

1429
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: about wins and losses and stuff. From an individual team's

1430
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 2: point of view, what's your observation of the quality of

1431
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: the NRL competition, given that any side can beat any

1432
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: side clearly as you've experienced.

1433
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 16: I honestly though it's going to be one of the

1434
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 16: best products in the world. I really do think New

1435
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 16: Zealanders are obsessed with the Warriors and really proud of them.

1436
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 16: I think they're also obsessive in a moment the product

1437
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 16: and watching other games of rugby league, and like I says,

1438
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 16: the balls and play for sixteen minuts and balls and

1439
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 16: play and other carts for thirty I know which game

1440
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 16: I want to watch. You know, I think I've done

1441
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 16: a great trouble with it, and you know, we're really

1442
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 16: lucky that we are. The game is in great shape.

1443
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 16: But I don't think you can take it for granted

1444
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 16: or mess it up or play around with it too much.

1445
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 16: We're going to We're going to make sure we keep

1446
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 16: the part up what it is because it's awesome for everyone.

1447
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: Does that answer the question the debate that's been had

1448
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: around rugby the balls and play for sixty minutes and

1449
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: if it's in play we're watching something that that you know,

1450
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: there's your problem with rugby.

1451
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I don't like to get too much

1452
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 16: into it because I don't know enough about rugby, but

1453
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 16: I kind of get to the point where if they

1454
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 16: change all the rules and rugby is and it don't

1455
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 16: end up what league? So yeah, basically the same game.

1456
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 16: So I don't know how how they get the ball

1457
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 16: and play more. I think there's a lot smarter people

1458
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 16: may know how to do that.

1459
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: Adent Fnua Blake, not just him specifically, but that scenario

1460
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: where he wants out. How do you handle that sort

1461
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: of thing going forward? You're dealing with, say a young man,

1462
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: you're offering him a long term contract, and you go,

1463
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: we're the one for you for what. In a halfway

1464
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: through the contract he wakes up one morning goes, you

1465
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: know what, I'm not How do you structure or make

1466
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: a side where a contract may or may not mean anything.

1467
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 16: I think it's a case by case. I mean, Adam

1468
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 16: didn't wake up one morning, so I wanted to go.

1469
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 16: He had had a real family situation that he needed

1470
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 16: to attend to, and you know, he needs to get

1471
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 16: himself home next season, and we're really grateful to come

1472
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 16: to a compensation where we could make true. He stayed

1473
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 16: for another year. He hasn't had any stage, but I

1474
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 16: think he loves the words and he really funded New Zealand.

1475
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 16: But the case by case is that if the players

1476
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 16: just wants to leave for no reason and just seems

1477
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 16: for life, can get paid more at other club than

1478
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 16: I think you go to stand your go around and say,

1479
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 16: you know, if you signed a contract, you're staying. I

1480
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 16: think like you're seeing that with the Dragons again. Hunt,

1481
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 16: he's obviously very important, just want to leave a few

1482
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 16: times and obviously probably said a better opportunity, but he's

1483
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 16: made him stains only a good footing. There's dragons. Obviously

1484
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 16: I'm another a good win last night. So I think

1485
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 16: it's situational really, But to Adam's credit, it just didn't

1486
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 16: work out one day and said I wanted to have no.

1487
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't suggesting you did. I'm just wondering if

1488
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: from a structural point of view and making a side

1489
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 2: or putting a side together, whether the game is changing

1490
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: in this world whereby suddenly a contract's not a contract,

1491
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: let's say, but I'll see how a feel type vibe

1492
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: and suddenly you don't know where you are.

1493
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 16: Well the so the contract is to an absolutely contract,

1494
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 16: So we could have made out and stay were still

1495
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 16: the outground light like mussel as a coach, I walked

1496
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 16: in the moments that I want to leave, which I

1497
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 16: certainly don't. David turnarounds and every buddy you're saying, so

1498
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 16: the contract's do implay. It's just for you, really, and

1499
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 16: I don't know if I'm answering this right for you,

1500
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 16: but it's just whether you really think that player playing

1501
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 16: under your wrest I'm not happy not to be your

1502
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 16: place is worth it for your culture, and I think

1503
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 16: that's where everyone's kind of worked out that, Look, he's

1504
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 16: contracted you, but this is a business. We can get

1505
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 16: player x Y and to replace him and always you

1506
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 16: know that player definitely wants to be. So yeah, it's

1507
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 16: it is when you're when you put your salary pat

1508
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 16: together in your squad and you're hoping mat everyone and

1509
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 16: it's up to us to pay a culture with happy

1510
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 16: and where I've stayed. So it's not it's not the

1511
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 16: easiest thing when these things happen, but it's just something

1512
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 16: you've always got to be across and on top of and.

1513
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,480
Speaker 2: Have they done that well for you? You're traveling happily.

1514
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 16: Yeah, happy, yeah, oh welcome. Well I'm probably a bit

1515
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 16: frustrated at the time that we're not mentioning our potential,

1516
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 16: but I'm stoked and the cloud. I love it here.

1517
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 16: I love New Zealand. I love the players that I

1518
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 16: get the coach every day. So family a happy so

1519
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 16: yeah the worries, that's foricial.

1520
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 14: I love it.

1521
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Good to catch up mate, Go well, we'll

1522
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 2: catch up again before the end of the season. Andrew

1523
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: webs that worries. Coach Ake twenty two.

1524
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 3: The mic hosting break best with Bailey's real.

1525
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Speaker 2: Estate you talk with the got good news. Have you

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1528
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1529
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1530
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Speaker 2: just north of Auckland, valued at almost one point four million.

1531
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Speaker 2: Got to be one. No jack potting. Somebody's going to win.

1532
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Speaker 2: Somebody will win this three bedroom property right and that

1533
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Speaker 2: that's you. Then you can what are you going to

1534
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Speaker 2: do with a well perfect year round holiday home. Of course,

1535
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: you can rent it out if you want. You can

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Speaker 2: upsticks relocate Mungafi. It's a growth area right now. And

1537
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Speaker 2: who doesn't want to live in Mungo or sell it

1538
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Speaker 2: and pocket the cash. Whatever you like, totally up to you.

1539
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Speaker 2: vital health research. So you got to be into win

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Speaker 2: brand new Munga fire home, other great prizes including overseas holidays,

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Speaker 2: for the Heart Foundation's work. You buy your tickets online today,

1545
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Speaker 2: be in to win Heartlottery dot org dot enz Skund.

1546
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: The regions don't have time at the moment, but I'll

1547
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: come back to it in a second round the regions,

1548
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 2: and I suppose it's applicable to many potentially. But the

1549
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 2: chief armandsman had this idea that counsels should be more transparent.

1550
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: I'll work you through the final detail of what he

1551
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: actually wanted this, Peter Bowsher. Of course, Peter, I'm retiring

1552
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: because I'm seventy two and the law says, so whoops.

1553
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: Now I'm not. They've allowed me to stay bosher anyway.

1554
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 2: The Thames corri Mandel had to think about that and

1555
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: they said, no, thanks, We're not into transparency. Meantime, Aurora

1556
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 2: Donners the old energy sales coming up. I didn't realize

1557
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: how much debt you're in the You had eight hundred

1558
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 2: million dollars worth of assets, but your forecast is fire

1559
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy million. How did that happen? So

1560
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: you're going to flick the assets and others. A bit

1561
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: of ankst around the route anyway, So we'll work you

1562
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: through the find and detail of all of that after

1563
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: the news and then Rod Little.

1564
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

1565
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, the Art of Performance news.

1566
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: Togs had been so Boshi comes up with this idea

1567
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 2: is reports called Open for Business Report on the Chief

1568
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: Onwardsman Investigation into local meeting and workshops report right, So,

1569
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 2: in other words, can you get access to what your

1570
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: council's doing? Do you know what they're doing or they

1571
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: behind closed doors? So proposed changes to the future management

1572
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 2: of council workshops, briefings, forums and networking days. Introduction of

1573
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 2: frameworks to determine open and closed workshop and recommended that

1574
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: counselors adopt in principle openness by default. Not a bad

1575
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 2: idea for a democracy, Isn't you wanted people's vote. Openness

1576
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: by default for all your workshops and briefings and networking

1577
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, with a commitment to a clear

1578
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: basis for closure. We're justified on a case by case basis.

1579
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: So that's what broadly, he said should be the template. Hell,

1580
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: look at that. So they did in the team's Cora

1581
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: Mental District council and they said, no, we don't want

1582
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: that closed doors, thank you very much. How do you

1583
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,879
Speaker 2: explain that? For goodness sake? Twenty three minutes away from nine.

1584
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: International correspondence with Insieye Insurance peace of mind for New

1585
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,440
Speaker 1: Zealand business.

1586
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 11: You came down run a little morning to you, good mate.

1587
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: When I'm watching Ka not Kiya Starma, Rishi Sunak, I'll

1588
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 2: have to get used to Kiya Stamer's name, given he's

1589
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: going to win. But when I'm not watching Rishi Sunak

1590
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: this morning saying I'm a bit worried about him as

1591
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: a supermajority. I don't want British voters walking into a supermajority.

1592
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: Is that Rishi essentially saying, I know I've lost, just

1593
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: don't make it that bad.

1594
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 18: Partly, it's also a kally a suggestion that those people

1595
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 18: who think they're all of the conservatives, but I'm quite

1596
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 18: with Labor, and there's an awful one of those who's

1597
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 18: saying to them, be careful what you wished for, and

1598
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 18: be careful what you vote for on Thursday, because a

1599
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 18: labor majority of two hundred and forty children, which is

1600
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 18: what the pole so roughly saying will be the case,

1601
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 18: would be a free card for Sukir Stana to do

1602
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 18: whatever he wanted for the next five years, whereas something

1603
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 18: a bit tighter might put him under a constraint. So

1604
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 18: I don't think it's a bad strategy.

1605
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: What about the strategy that we're soft on immigration. Let's

1606
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: look at France, Let's look at Germany, let's look at Italy,

1607
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 2: let's look at the European vote. They're all moving to

1608
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: the right. That means a clamp down on immigration. We're

1609
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: the soft target here in Britain. Does that potentially play

1610
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: to people's fears?

1611
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 18: Yes it does, Yes it does. But unfortunately for Rishi,

1612
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 18: of course, it plays into the hands of reform, who

1613
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 18: have I think some time ago plateaued in the polls

1614
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 18: and are now well down and where they were. But

1615
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 18: nonetheless any mention of immigration raises the reform stature a

1616
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 18: little bit. My guess as we are at the moment

1617
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 18: heading into you know, the last couple of days of campaigning,

1618
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 18: is that Labor is well well ahead, and the Poles

1619
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 18: would support that that they're well ahead, and most of

1620
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 18: the Poles of just the two hundred and forty majority.

1621
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 18: My guess again, and we've talked about this before, Mike,

1622
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 18: is that this is underestimating both a shy Tory vote

1623
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 18: and also as rich is Sunek was alluding to those

1624
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 18: people who do not wish Labor to be given a

1625
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 18: carpe blanche. So I suspect it will be smaller than

1626
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 18: the majority that's been predicted. And I spoke to a

1627
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 18: top Tory at the weekend he said his postal votes,

1628
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 18: which he had a look at. I don't know if

1629
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 18: that was legally or illegally. I'm not going to drop

1630
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 18: him in it. We're about the sect as usual, so

1631
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 18: the Poles always need to be taken with a pinch

1632
01:17:59,120 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 18: of salt.

1633
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: I was going to ask about the polls.

1634
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 16: One.

1635
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: There's a lot of Poles. Do people in Britain see

1636
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: them as one consistent and are they broadly speaking trusted.

1637
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 18: No, they're not, and they're not trusted for a whole

1638
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 18: bunch of reasons, which some of them sociological and demographic,

1639
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 18: some of them you know, the shy Tory vote. I

1640
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 18: suspect they're still givenly the venom towards the Conservative Party nationally.

1641
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 18: I suspect there are still a large number of people

1642
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 18: who are going to vote Conservative on July the fourth,

1643
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 18: but don't want to advertise the fact to polsters or

1644
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 18: to anyone else, you know. And that is one of

1645
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 18: the things which won them the election in twenty fifteen

1646
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 18: and massively won them the election in twenty nineteen, the

1647
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 18: shy Tory vote. So again, I think we're in the

1648
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 18: same position as we were a week ago. That you know,

1649
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 18: there are three or four days to go. It's labors

1650
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 18: to lose, but they can lose. I don't think that

1651
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 18: the Tours will win a majority, but I've talked to

1652
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 18: a few Tours. I think a hug Parliament isn't off

1653
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,480
Speaker 18: the gender entirely. I think that's wishful thinking.

1654
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 2: All right, well will you get another chance on Thursday morning,

1655
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: of course, which is election die, but let's get your

1656
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 2: vibe for frerage. So was it initially a deliance? He

1657
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: comes in, he leads, I'm not running, I am running,

1658
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: Everyone goes nuts. A few of us people make Dixon themselves.

1659
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: They are now suspended. Has it sort of all blown

1660
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: up a little bit?

1661
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 18: I think it has, and he's made too bad mistakes.

1662
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 18: I think the first of them he came in and

1663
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 18: the reform vote jumped ten percent. It did in my

1664
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 18: constituency where I'm standing. It just jumped up. But since

1665
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 18: then it's he's been knocked firstly by his criticisms of

1666
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 18: our support for Ukraine in the war in the against

1667
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 18: a Russian invasion. That's hurting. And also I think also

1668
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 18: his comments about the right wing alliance in France which

1669
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 18: is about to win those elections, where he delicorates them.

1670
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 18: And so I don't think any of that plays terribly

1671
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 18: well with the British audience. And I think Reformers probably

1672
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 18: peaked and will probably end up with about fifteen to

1673
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 18: sixty percent of the vote probably when it comes to

1674
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 18: the polling itself. In constituencies six percent and maybe Nigel

1675
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 18: will win and two or three others and that's about it.

1676
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 2: Okay, we will reconvene Thursday, New Zealand time, which will

1677
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 2: be Wednesday night in Britain. Of course Rod standing and

1678
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: will give you all the details of that elector because

1679
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: we've been building up in time. But he is back

1680
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 2: on the eve of election day on Thursday on the

1681
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: mic asking bricks seventeen to nine, the mic hosking racist

1682
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 2: fourteen to nine. Just before we leave Europe, the European

1683
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: Commission yet again talking to Meta. This is ed support

1684
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: subscription options. It's what they call a pay or consent model.

1685
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: So as a user, you have to either pay to

1686
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: use a platform ad free or consent to their data

1687
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 2: being processed or your data being processed for personalized advertising.

1688
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: So they introduced the service for Facebook and Insta last

1689
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 2: year in Europe. This was in response to regulatory concerns

1690
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 2: over privacy, of course, so they now face potentially fine

1691
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: of up to thirteen billion dollars because they think they

1692
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: could be not they but the EU thinks they could

1693
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: be in breach of the anti trust rules. Yet again,

1694
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,879
Speaker 2: they've been accused of failing to comply with the blocks

1695
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: anti trust rules. In the Commission's preliminary view, I mean,

1696
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: it's hard to keep up with the number of times

1697
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: these guys get dragged before various official you know, whether

1698
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: it be in America or Europe. I mean, you can't

1699
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: blame the politicians for not trying, but Jesus seems to

1700
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: be going on. There's a lot of them anyway. And

1701
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 2: the Commission's preliminary view, this binary choice forces users to

1702
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,440
Speaker 2: consent to the combination of their personal data and fails

1703
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: to provide them with a less person lies but equivalent

1704
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: version of metas social network. So I don't know where

1705
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: they go there, but it does bring us very nicely

1706
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 2: to Andrew Forrest Twiggy. They call them out of wa

1707
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: He is and was involved in Super Rugby, but a

1708
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: billionaire and he's been to court with Facebook as well,

1709
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: and he's won in the US. This is and this

1710
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 2: promises to what they call ps the US laws that

1711
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: have cloaked Facebook's business from harm on the platform. So

1712
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: what he was after is all of the dodgy operators

1713
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: on the platform, how you get to them, how you

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01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 2: control them, how you regulate them. So this was a

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01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 2: US court last month it would consider whether the well

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01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 2: in this case, Facebook breached its duty to the public

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01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 2: by allowing fraudulent advertisements to appear on the platform. This

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01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: came out of Twiggy. I mean, anyone who's got I'm

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01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: sure you're not surprised by this, but anyone here you

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01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: were in the world basically is it got. Even the

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01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 2: remotest of profiles has somehow, some way, shape or form

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01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 2: been part of scam advertising. I include myself many times over.

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01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 2: And the great debate is whether you do what I

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01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: do and just go it is what it is and

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01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 2: what can you possibly do? Or you do what Twiggie

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01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 2: does and go bugger this. I'm going to take them

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01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: to court. So they had cause for action under California

1728
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: common law to claim for misappropriation of his name and likeness.

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01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: So Meta is going to be forced to reveal some

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01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: information on the inner workings of their advertising platform. In

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01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 2: other words, how does this happen? And do they know?

1732
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: And if they know, why don't they do something about it?

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01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: So over about six months to December twenty twenty three,

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01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 2: there were seventeen hundred new fraudulent ads, including crypto scams,

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01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: posted on Facebook aided and abetted by ten to fifteen

1736
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 2: fake Andrew Forrests Facebook profiles popping up each and every

1737
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: week to support them. So it is the first time,

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01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: and this is what's important about it, the first time

1739
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: that any party has successfully pierced what they call Section

1740
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: two thirty of the Communications Decency Act, which was acted

1741
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 2: by Clinton back in the nineties. So it's an old low.

1742
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: So Clinton would have gone, look, I've done my best.

1743
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 2: There it is. That's your law, there's your protection. Everyone

1744
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 2: else skirts around it. Meta doesn't say whether they're going

1745
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: to appeal, but their advertising comes into one hundred and

1746
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: thirty four billion dollars, and it's sort of dovetails into

1747
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 2: the debate we're having in this country and the media

1748
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: landscape whereby these guys simply do whatever they want to do,

1749
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: no one regulates them, no one seems to be able

1750
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 2: to get on top of their behavior, they don't seem

1751
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: to care, and everyone else suffers because of it. So

1752
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: this would be enormous. It's got the potential to be enormous.

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01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 2: So at this point, anyway, good on Twiggy, But what.

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01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 12: If I do want to know why Mike Hoskins producers

1755
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 12: had to cut as mic before the break.

1756
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Well, you have to do a deep diet on that one,

1757
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: won't you, and scroll through Tilliam fulfilled nine minutes away

1758
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 2: from nine.

1759
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 3: The mic hosting breakfast. Where's a Buzeer news? Tom sent

1760
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:53,879
Speaker 3: me we're talking.

1761
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 14: About a Laura.

1762
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: What's going on? Dneed a couple of hundred thousand. You know,

1763
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,759
Speaker 2: locals in Dunedin have the Aurora Energy Power eight hundred

1764
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: million in an asset's five hundred and seventy in debt.

1765
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: What happened there? So the proposal is to cover that

1766
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: debt by selling the company. They expect no one knows,

1767
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 2: but they expect to have a few hundred million left over.

1768
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 2: They'll create the investment fund. This is the This is

1769
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 2: Wayne Brown and Auckland, same sort of thing. Create an

1770
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: investment fund, earn the interest, etc. The majority of submissions

1771
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 2: are posed but to need and holdings or city holdings.

1772
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: They're on the portfolio Auror Energy forecasting at one point

1773
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: one billion dollar capital spend needed by twenty twenty five

1774
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: to twenty thirty four. That's the other thing. We're going

1775
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: to have to spend a fortune. It's too expensive god

1776
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 2: old assets. What are we going to do? Blah blah blah.

1777
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: Aurora is a significant drag on council credit metrics. So

1778
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: we seem to be wanting a sale where we're going

1779
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: to get lots of money bank the money kill the

1780
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: debt and the brighter tomorrow arrives. Because you've suddenly gotten

1781
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 2: the course of concerns, and that's why the majority of

1782
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: submissions are opposed. The concerns are who are the new owners,

1783
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 2: what do they do? What about the lion's charges? What

1784
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 2: about your power bill? What happens when you lose control?

1785
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 2: And so it's another interesting asset. But let me know

1786
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: what you think about that and how big a deal

1787
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: that is in that particular part of the world. Is

1788
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 2: it as big, for example, in Dunedin as the opening

1789
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 2: of k Mark? I mean, surely that's what we measure

1790
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 2: all things by these days, the opening of the new

1791
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: k Mark versus Aurora and the sale. Let me know,

1792
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:15,839
Speaker 2: six minutes away from nine.

1793
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year.

1794
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: Round, Donald Glover goes under childish Gambino and so later

1795
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 2: this year and he is the real story. And Sammy

1796
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: seems to have missed this and shows no real interest

1797
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: in What's going on? Last year? He says later, this

1798
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: year's releasing his final album. First question is why is

1799
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 2: it his final album?

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01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,480
Speaker 1: It's his final album as childish Gambino.

1801
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: As he said that, yes, And what's he going to

1802
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: be next?

1803
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 12: Well?

1804
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 2: Keep reading. So he's made a movie, not just an

1805
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: album drop, He's made a movie, written, produced, directed, start

1806
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: himself movies called Bando Stone in the New World. It's

1807
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 2: about surviving a post apocalyptic world.

1808
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 3: Hello, now, don't move.

1809
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: Who are you?

1810
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 3: It's me Bandos Stone, the singer Starlight. Let's make it happen.

1811
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 17: Party monkey, It's not true.

1812
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 10: They're dare You're can party everywhere.

1813
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: Let your party monkey?

1814
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: All right, you don't know who I am. That's fine.

1815
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: You're gonna be quite funny.

1816
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 13: I can help you.

1817
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 15: You have to get to the other side of the island.

1818
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 3: We can only move in the daytimes.

1819
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 16: Wait, why not that, Nate, because that's when everything comes out.

1820
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 3: A little creepy.

1821
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: But that's fine.

1822
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 3: I can sing You're useless.

1823
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Quite good?

1824
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 3: Are you gonna die?

1825
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Okay? That's actually bitter than most of the movie trailers

1826
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: we paid played by professional movie companies. We're just depressing.

1827
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 2: So every song in the soundtrack tracks off the album

1828
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 2: No Kidding. No official release date yet for the album

1829
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 2: or the movie, but it will be theaters and it

1830
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: will be this year, and then he'll play this new

1831
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: music when he's performing in the country. What in the

1832
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 2: country here in January? So he's coming here in January,

1833
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: but that's next year. So is he still childish Gambina then?

1834
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 2: Or is he?

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01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 18: Or is he Donald Glover?

1836
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: Or is he Donald Glow?

1837
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 6: Or is he you see, it's confusing to be.

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01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 2: So all you're saying is you've got a bunch of

1839
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: questions so you don't know any of the answers. Correct, Okay,

1840
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't think you should go as Donald Glover because

1841
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 2: if you say Donald Glover is coming to the country now,

1842
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: is bla.

1843
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 16: Now?

1844
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: That went well? Tuesday, done, the middle of the week,

1845
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 2: back at six a m. For the Mike Hosking breakfast

1846
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. As almost capturing the days.

1847
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 10: It's say they the murdered it, casey Anthony. These rappers

1848
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 10: don't know what to do because all I did would

1849
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 10: act mean like a loony tool and I'll give you

1850
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 10: all of me and tell there's nothing left. I swear

1851
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 10: that summer would be summer camp bitch

1852
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

1853
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,360
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