1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: on Early Edition with one roof make your property search simple, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: use talks. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: It'd be welcome morning, and thank you so much for 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: choosing us. I'm Andrew Dickens and welcome into Early Edition 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: and coming up over the next sixty minutes, the government 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: has finally grasped the nettle of the Resource Management Act. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: We're going to work you through the changes with fed pharmacists. 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Before six the All Whites are off to the World Cup. 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: We'll have Jason Pine in ten minutes time on a 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: joyous night at Eden Park and on Langha Tamariki. The 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: agency that cannot do its job. A horrific report finally 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: makes it into the public domain after eleven months and 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: it's not pretty reading. We're going to talk about this 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: with Save the Children in about five minutes time. We'll 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: have correspondence from around the world and right around New 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Zealand and use as it breaks and you can have 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: your say too by using the text. The number is 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: ninety two to ninety two. A small charge applies. Good 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: onring to you. It is seven after. 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: The agenda. 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, the twenty fifth of March, US negotiators are 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: meeting a Russian delegation in Saudi Arabia as part of 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: Trump's push for a swift end to the war in Ukraine. 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: It comes as the Ukraine reports Russian strikes head a hospital, homes, 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: and children's institutions in Sumi, entering twenty eight people, including 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: four children. Meanwhile, Russia military says they intercepted twenty eight 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: Ukrainian drones. 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: These are very technical talks. I think the Americans, who 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: had initially been very upbeat, very optimistic about it, have 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: had to scale back their expectations about just what can 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: be achieved. 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: Here to Turkey now, where the Turkish government says more 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: than a thousand people have been arrested in five days 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: of protests around the country. Protests began when Istanbul's mayor 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: Ekrem Imaghu, an opponent to of President Iduwan, was detained 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: on corruption charges. Imamagu, who's also been matter from his 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: post as mayor, says these charges, surprise, surprise, are politically motivated. 39 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: If you're urging, I'm dear in mining our society to 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: protest this injustice made towards mister Imomolus, towards Turkish democracy. 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: It was our party and it's about the future of society. 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: And British American influencer Andrew Tait and his brother Tristan 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: have appeared at a police station after returning to Romania 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: from the United States. The brothers registered with the authorities 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: in the capital for Kures. That was a legal formality 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: to demonstrate their compliance with the ongoing criminal investigation. Now 47 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: they're under investigation for forming an organized criminal group, human trafficking, 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: trafficking of miners and money you're ordering. And Andrew also 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: faces allegations of rape and sex with a minor, and 50 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: the pair, of course deny all accusations. 51 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 5: I think we've all realized by now everyone with a 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: brain knows this case is going nowhere. This case will 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: be over sooner or later. Anyone with a brain can 54 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: understand that. So it's just a matter of paperwork and administration. 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 5: And now we can talk about how it's unfair. They've 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: just tried to destroy my life for three years. But 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: God puts us through things to test us, and I 58 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 5: believe that God put me through this to test me, 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: and I think I've done a flawless, fantastic job of 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: persevering that's using to be browbeaten. 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: That's and taking us to ten minutes after five. 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day in 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one Room to make 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: your Property search simple, You talk siy. 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: So the fact that the government is going to reform 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: the Resource Management Act should not be underestimated. I've been 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: doing this job a long time, and I've seen governments 68 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: of every color and kreg grumbling about this legislation for 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: decades now, saying they're going to do something about it, 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: and never doing a thing. And when they got down 71 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: to wrestling the monster, it quickly got moved into the 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: too hard basket. This Act has been a classic example 73 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: of mission creep, with bureaucrats and councils and governments taking 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: on limits to development nwilly nilly, leaving us with a 75 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: mess of rules regulations, and the only fans of it 76 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: have been the lawyers and the consulting engineers who have 77 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: been on a gravy train that frankly dwarfs the EI one. 78 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: But finally a government has grasped the tiger by the 79 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: tail and is doing something about it. And of course 80 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: it's not going to happen overnight, and remember it will 81 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: not be immune from challenge. But here's the thing all 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: political parties should support the certainly the main ones why 83 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: it brings us into line with most OECD countries. It 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: simplifies things, it makes it understandable, and a lot of 85 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: the new legislation resembles Labour's proposal last electoral cycle. Like 86 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Labour's approach, it includes two new pieces of legislation. We 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: will now have a Natural Environment Act and a Planning Act. However, 88 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: how it goes further than the Labour thing is it 89 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: preserves property rights better. In other words, if you've been 90 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: doing stuff on your land, you retain the right to 91 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: keep on doing it, and if your neighbor wants to 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: do stuff that impinges on your property rights, they can't. 93 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: It should also be noted that David Parker from la 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: A first mooted fast track consenting, which is a separate thing. 95 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: But on the RMA and fast track, Labor shouldn't complain. 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: If they do start bleeding, realize it's because they're jealous 97 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: that National got it over the line when they didn't. 98 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: In fact, many governments will be jealous. This one's finally 99 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: done something, so bring on the new tomorrow. Remember, it's 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: going to take years to happen, but at least it 101 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: started to happen. It's twelve minutes out to five. I'll 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: be reading substack and Malcolm Turnbull, the former Prime Minister 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: of Australia, is on substack, and lately he's been writing 104 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: about Orcus, the defense packed between Australia, the United States 105 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: and Britain, a pact that we've been encouraged to join 106 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: as an auxiliary partner. We're already kind of in there 107 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: in a way with five eyes, but not he's reminding 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: this is Malcolm Turnbull is reminding Australians that the heart 109 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: of the deal is Australia buying submarines. Of course he 110 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: was the Prime minister. He's seeing the deal when he 111 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: was in power, and he sees the kicker is the 112 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: subs only get built if America doesn't need any. Guess 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: what at this moment, America is eleven submarine short right now, 114 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: and construction is years away and takes years. So well, 115 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: Assie will ever get at subs. And with the Trump 116 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: administration now in power, there's no telling when the subs 117 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: might come for Australia. In fact, there's no telling if 118 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: the Orcus Pact will continue to be a thing in 119 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: the New America. So my read on all of this, 120 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: and thank you Malcolm Turnbull for writing on this, is 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: that New Zealand should just keep on sharing the intelligence, 122 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: but on Orcus, we need to wait until the future 123 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: is more clear before any further involvements. So look, it 124 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: took eleven months to get a report out of orang 125 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: A Tamoiki, and when we finally got it out of them, 126 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: out of their clawed hands, the report details grievous privacy breaches. 127 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: So what is going wrong this time with OT? We're 128 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: going to talk to save the children next here on 129 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: News Talk SETB. 130 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 131 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and One Roof to make Your Property Search 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: Simple Youth Talk z b oh good. 133 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: They added sixteen after five already, so alan A Tamariki 134 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: they have still not fixed systems that led to privacy 135 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: breach is so serious that in at least one case, 136 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: the breach led to a woman being physically abused. A 137 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: recently made public review of OT's approach to privacy found 138 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: the organization has just been too casual with sensitive data 139 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: In one case, there was a social worker who gave 140 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: the address of a child and their mother to the 141 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: child's father. The father was on bail at the time, 142 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 2: and he was on bail for rape charges. He should 143 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: never know that stuff. Jackie Saldy is with the child 144 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: rights advocacy and research director at Saved the Children and 145 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: joins you now, good morning to dear Jackie. Then Andrew, 146 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: why can't this agency ever get it together? 147 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 6: Well, the privacy breaches that you've described are incredibly serious 148 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 6: and unacceptable by any measure, and we're very concerned that 149 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 6: there are continued examples and that the report that has 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 6: been made public does describe a plan that has been 151 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 6: put together, but we'd like to understand more about how 152 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 6: that plan is progressing and the way that it will 153 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 6: support children and filo to greater safety within the auto 154 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 6: A tammidety system. The report shows that the breaches absolutely 155 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 6: fail to uphold children's rights to privacy and protection under 156 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 6: the Convention of the Rights of the Child, and unfortunately, 157 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 6: children's privacy can be seen as a secondary or secondary 158 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 6: rights with the discretion of adults, when in fact children 159 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 6: are clearly accorded their rights to privacy if they should 160 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 6: be understood, respected and are held across the order a 161 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 6: Tamodhi system. 162 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: You say they have a plan, but they won't tell 163 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: us about the plan. Do they even want to? I mean, 164 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: this review was completed eleven months ago and the media 165 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: has been pestering for it's released the whole time through 166 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: the Official Information Act. They to me just don't seem 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: to want to be accountable. 168 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 7: Well, I guess it's a difficult situation. 169 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: We're sensitive information is being shared publicly. And one of 170 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 6: the problems when these sorts of issues and I guess 171 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 6: misconduct or greatest breach has come to light, is it 172 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 6: takes away public trust in government agencies such as ud Tamodeki. 173 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: And this is incredibly important because if the public don't 174 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 6: have trust in Auto Tamidiki, there's a struggle to for 175 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 6: it to work effectively, and that is to receive complaints 176 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 6: of concern and the trust that they'll be acted on 177 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 6: appropriately and that children and finna will be protected in 178 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 6: their system. So it's really important. It cannot be underestimated 179 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 6: how critical it is that they step up and really 180 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 6: communicate how what they're doing to rep by these issues 181 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 6: and make the changes we want to. 182 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: See whether they've even got our trust at all. I mean, 183 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: there's been review after review, there's been report after report, 184 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: there's been outrage after outrage and changes and plans, and 185 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: we don't get to hear about it. Do you think 186 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: they'll ever get around to it. 187 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 6: Well, it's essential that they do, because they are the 188 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 6: government agency that is tasked with one of the most 189 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 6: critical areas, and child protection the most critical area in 190 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 6: child protection. They are absolutely tasked with upholding the safety, 191 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 6: the rights of protection and the futures of children and 192 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 6: families are incredibly fragile in fun of the situations. We 193 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 6: need this agency to do well, to function effectively and 194 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 6: to protect our twinforms. 195 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: Jackie Sally, I thank you so much for your advocacy. 196 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: Jackie's from Save the Children and a child rights advocacy 197 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: and research director. And I've had a text already Andrew. Yes, 198 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: of course OT can do better, but we always blame 199 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: just them. We wouldn't need this growing service who are overworked, 200 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: if people care for their families, and if New Zealand 201 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: didn't have such appalling child abuse statistics. And this is 202 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: all true, but we also an agency that can help 203 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: the kids and this one doesn't seem to be able 204 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: to It's five nineteen. We watched the football last night 205 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: and not White Lotus. We're into the World Cup. Jason 206 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: Pine was the caller. He's joining me. 207 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Next News and Views, you Trust to Starne your Day. 208 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: It's the early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof 209 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: Make Your Property Search Simple Youth Talks. 210 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: They'd be five twenty two. Here we go, Here we go, 211 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: Here we go. We're off to the World Cup. Twenty 212 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 2: twenty six. We won three mil over New Caledonia. And 213 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: of course the man making the call for the Telly 214 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: and also works here on news Talks, here be as 215 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Jason Pine. Congratulations Jason. I thought you played very well. 216 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 8: Look, I'm not sure I had any direct influence on 217 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 8: the game, Andrew, but it's lovely to be here with you. 218 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: Tough first half. The New Caledonians were well organized. 219 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 8: They certainly were. Yeah, they came out and made it 220 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 8: very difficult for New Zealand in the first half. And look, 221 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 8: I think a lot of people turned up there last 222 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 8: night and tuned in thinking this is going to be 223 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 8: fairly straightforward, and it didn't take long for those illusions 224 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 8: to be dispelled. I thought New Colodoni were well worth 225 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 8: it and played really well in the first half. Frustrated 226 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 8: New Zealand. You know, any chances they had were repelled 227 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 8: by their excellent goalkeeper Rocky nccaine. And at half time 228 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 8: when they wandered off or New Zealand wanted off, it 229 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 8: was with frustration New Caledonia almost celebrating at half time 230 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 8: the fact that it was still nil all. But in 231 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 8: New Zealand grow into the game in the second half 232 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 8: and did what had to be done. Well. 233 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: Of course, we lost Chris Woods and we worry about it, 234 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: but that's the thing for Nottingham, for est to worry about. 235 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: But here's the thing what I liked about it. In 236 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: the second half. We changed stuff a bit. We brought 237 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: in Francis Devrees. We've got a whole lot more direct 238 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: and suddenly so we changed and we got around the 239 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: blanket defense. And that's a good sign for a good team. 240 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 8: Oh look absolutely, yeah. You can't just have one plan, 241 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 8: can you. And Plan A was Chris Wood obviously, and 242 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 8: that you know, for the first time in a long 243 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 8: time didn't work and as you say, he went off injured. 244 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 8: So they changed it up Francis to Brees as you say, 245 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 8: came on cost of Barbe I think made an excellent 246 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 8: impact off the bench and Elie just you know, barbarusas 247 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 8: and just both on the score sheet. So yeah, they 248 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 8: It is the sign of a good team that if 249 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 8: things aren't going the way you would hope that they 250 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 8: would that you you know, that you try something else 251 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 8: and you get success that way. And that's what happened 252 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 8: last night. 253 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: So we're after the big game, but for the third 254 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: time ever, but this time with this supposed golden generation 255 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: of players. Should we hope that they get to the 256 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: knockout stage? 257 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 8: Well, absolutely, I think that'll be the aim. There's no 258 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 8: way that this team will want to go just to participate. 259 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 8: That that has to now be the base level that 260 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 8: when we get to the World Cup next year, it's 261 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 8: not just to make up the numbers. It's not just 262 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 8: to play three games and then pack the bags and 263 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 8: head home. It's that they have realistic ambitions of getting 264 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 8: out of their group and into the knockout stages. It 265 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 8: is a very good All Whites team, you know, notwithstanding 266 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 8: the fact they couldn't break down New Caledonia for large 267 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 8: periods of last night. This is as good in all 268 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 8: whites team as I've seen, and look they will be 269 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 8: off to the Big Dance next year with the full 270 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 8: intention of getting out of the group. 271 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: And something's changed about football. In a shocking development, my 272 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: partner chose to watch the game instead of wait loads 273 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: this last night. It'll be interesting to see the ratings, 274 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: but obviously you know football's on the rise. 275 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 8: Well of those Yeah, free to wear last night, which 276 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 8: helps obviously, but no, well, when people like your partner 277 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 8: are choosing, are choosing football over over her regular viewing habits. 278 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 8: And look, good crowd there last night from Monday night 279 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 8: over twenty five thousand Auckland FC. You and I have 280 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 8: talked about that a lot in the past as well, 281 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 8: and the Phoenix have been around for some time now, 282 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 8: good players all around the world. It will only get 283 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 8: bigger when we go to the World Cup next year. 284 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 8: So yeah, pretty healthy time for the round ball code 285 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 8: in our country. 286 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: Pack your bags, Jason, looks like you're going to America. 287 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 6: We are. 288 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 8: We certainly pitching to the bosses Andrew get your support. 289 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: That'll be helpful, No problem, no problem, I'll carry your 290 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: bags for you. Jason Plant, football commentator, and news storks. 291 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: He Bespat. It's hosted is now five to twenty five. 292 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 293 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: News Talks at B News Talks B. 294 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge. It is five twenty seven. 295 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: So it's no secret to anyone that we don't have 296 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: enough doctors in this country. Recent policy moves to attract 297 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: more qualified overseas doctors have been eagerly received, as have 298 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: directives to increase the number of doctors we train locally, 299 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: and the government's decision to fund another fifty medical school 300 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: places from next year, which will increase the cap to 301 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: six hundred and thirty nine first year students, was well 302 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: received too. But here's my question, what is the point 303 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: of training more doctors if we don't have jobs for them. 304 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: Medical Council data shows that thirty percent of medical graduates 305 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: leave the country within ten years. They leave because Health 306 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: New Zealand do not fund enough jobs. The jobs they 307 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: do fund a lowly play paid and future prospects are 308 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: limited except for a talent of few. They get paid 309 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: better overseas and they can pay off this student loan faster. 310 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: And it all starts in day one after they've trade. 311 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: Each year, Health New Zealand fails to fund internships for 312 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty graduates, forcing them to look overseas. 313 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: They've done everything, but there's absolutely no job there for them. 314 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: Some sure, we're overseas students, but they've spent seven years here. 315 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: They'd like to say if the prospects look good, but 316 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: the prospects aren't. Now we've trained these guys, and all 317 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: tertiary education is partially subsidized by you and I the taxpayer. 318 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: What is the point of spending taxpayers money training doctors 319 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: if to save taxpayers money we don't offer them a 320 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: career path after their studies. And so how about this 321 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: for a radical idea. The government now wants to fund 322 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: training for six hundred and thirty nine doctors next year, 323 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: why not also fund six hundred and thirty nine internships, 324 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: and if any of them don't want to stay, we 325 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: use that excess funding to pay the guys who do 326 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: want to stay a little bit more. Because to fund 327 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: training of doctors and then refuse to fund their jobs 328 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: after they've graduated to me as wasteful spending. And we 329 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: all know how this government feels about wasteful Spending Dickens. 330 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Elton John. He is seventy eight years old today, 331 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: three hundred million albums, one hundred million songs singles, Rock 332 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: and roll Hall of Famer. I say this because he's 333 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: been not well. He's had prostate cancer, a hit replacement. 334 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: His eyes are playing up on them now. So every 335 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: year with Elton is a good year. Now at a 336 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: moment we're talking about the invasion of fire rands in Australia. 337 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: You've got an earlier edition with news Talks b Hi, Fellow. 338 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 9: Gravev Hell then. 339 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on a filly edition with one roof, make 340 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: your property Surge, simple youth talk zibby. 341 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: Hey, good morning and welcome to your Tuesday. Mandre Dickinson 342 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: for why I'm bridge from here for a couple more 343 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: weeks until Heather comes back. Text throughout ninety two to 344 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: ninety two. Text wanted me to ask Jason about the 345 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: aucand Stadium being proposed for Western Springs for AUCANDFC. Well, 346 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: it wasn't the right time all the right place. But 347 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: I have to say against those plans and the popularity 348 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: of football right now, I don't think it's big enough. 349 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 2: We will by the way find out what Auck's doing 350 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: about at Stadium lay later on this week, either a 351 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 2: new one or a revamp of for Eeden Park. Got 352 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: a bulletin of drug and booze news for you right now. 353 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: Police have released the annual wastewater drug testing results and 354 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: it is grim there was an unprecedented ninety six percent 355 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: spike in meth consumption. That's called it one hundred percent? 356 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: Shall we in one year? That's a hell of a spike. 357 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: At a time when the government wants to say it's 358 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: not soft on crime and that it's war on gangs 359 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: is successful, it appears that if you're a gang drug dealer, 360 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: it's bonus time. 361 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 8: Now. 362 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go out there and say the 363 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: patch band has failed, That's what Chris Hipkins said yesterday. 364 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: But what I will say is the patch band falls 365 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: around the edges of the gangs. And the Prime Minister 366 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: rightfully has asked Mark Mitchell to strike at the very 367 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: heart of gangs along with Paul Goldsmith, and we can't 368 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: wait for that. The estimated social cost of myth in 369 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: New Zealand one point five billion dollars meanwhile to the UK, 370 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: and the average price of a pint in England is 371 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: about to exceed five quid. This first time you have 372 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: a five quid for a pint. Everywhere a public can 373 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: say it's never been more expensive to run a pub, 374 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: so prices go up. This is because Keir starm has 375 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: brought an increases to the minimum waves as a rise 376 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: of national insurance rates and so it's all much more expensive. 377 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: That's if you can even find a pub in England. 378 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: The number of pubs in England has had a record low, 379 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: falling below thirty nine thousand for the first time last year. 380 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: The problem was COVID left many with crippling debt problems 381 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: and all this is striking a blow at the heart 382 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: of British life and people are not happy. You do 383 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: not get between a palm and his beer. Andrew Dickens 384 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: twenty three to six. We're going around the country Caluen 385 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: Proctor from duned and good morning morning Andrew, and right 386 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: pay is there are being asked their views on public transport. 387 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, consultations underway on the draft Otago Regional Public Transport Plan. 388 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 10: It opened yesterday. This focus is on improving passenger experiences, 389 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 10: promoting sustainable transport choices and planning bus routes. The Regional 390 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 10: Council is also seeking feedback on proposals to increase the 391 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 10: flat fear here from two dollars to two dollars fifty 392 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 10: and introduce zones for those fears. The Transport Committee co 393 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 10: chairs Andrew Noon. He says they need to manage new 394 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 10: government expectations requiring an increase in revenue and this consultation 395 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 10: closes on May the twelfth. 396 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: Don't complain if you don't have your day. What's the 397 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: weather like in Dunedin? 398 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 10: Chance for shower this morning, becoming fine this afternoon, the 399 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 10: high seventeenth and I. 400 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Claire Sure it joins us fro Christus. Good 401 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: morning to you, Claire, Good morning. The mayor wants to 402 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: get people inside to Kaha. 403 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 11: Well basically that's that's what pil Major wants to do. 404 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 11: He wants everyone in there, but also wants it to 405 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 11: be an opportunity to help charities at the same time. 406 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 11: So I shared last week that one New Zealand Stadium 407 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 11: Actica as one of the fifty one sites that are 408 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 11: going to open to the public at the Open christ 409 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 11: Church Festival, which is over a weekend in May. Now 410 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 11: the Catchers though that only twenty locals will get that opportunity. 411 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 11: Those names will be drawn out of a ballot, with 412 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 11: more than five hundred people applying to have one of 413 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 11: those spots within the first couple of hours. The mayor 414 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 11: film major says it's really cool that people can see 415 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 11: things they normally wouldn't get the chance to. So he'd 416 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 11: like to see more locals getting that opportunity. Inside Takaha 417 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 11: with a can of food as an entry fee. 418 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: Oh come, can't wait. Now, how's your weather? 419 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 11: Some low cloud lifting this morning to become cloudy, northeasterlies 420 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 11: easing and a high of eighteen. 421 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: Max told joins us now from Wellington. Hellimax, good morning, 422 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: So all the talk is about the redrawing of electoral boundaries. 423 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, interesting announcement happening in Wellington later this morning. An 424 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 12: independent commission will announce what electorate could be abolished. Population 425 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 12: changes mean one voting area has to get the chop 426 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 12: in the North Island, likely to be or any that 427 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 12: Auckland or Wellington. The South Island's population has grown, so 428 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 12: it must be in the North Island. Wellington Central has 429 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 12: been suggested by some here, Orongai or how do you 430 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 12: bas Otago University professor Andrew Geddy's predicts Auckland will lose 431 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 12: an electorate and it could impact David Seymour's home turf. 432 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 12: EPSOM sits in the middle of the electorates in question. 433 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 12: He thinks EPSOM is the most likely to get the 434 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 12: chop right now. 435 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: And of course then that brings about allegations of jerry mandering, 436 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: but that's for another day. What's Wellington's weather like? 437 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 12: Cloudy period? 438 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: Is today? 439 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 12: Light winds twenty the high central. 440 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: And Niva Rittaman who joins us from Auckland. Hello, Neva, Greetings, 441 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: it's Stadium Idol, it's Stadium Survivor. It's the Battle of 442 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: the stadiums and we're still waiting to find out what's 443 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: going to happen in Auckland. 444 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 13: Correct, there's a waiting game. And this is the option 445 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 13: about Auckland Council staff what they're recommending for a national stadium. 446 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 13: So what we do know the council has already reached 447 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 13: a short list of two options. Okay, one is going 448 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 13: to see that Eden Park upgraded with the roofs. The 449 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 13: other would see the new building precinct developed near Spark Arena. 450 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 13: Now that would have hotels, apartments, bars, restaurants and a 451 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 13: fifty thousand seat stadium. So the staff are due to 452 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 13: make a recommendation, so hopefully there'll be today. Then the 453 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 13: councilors they choose an option on Thursday. 454 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: And of course is controversy because they went to some 455 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: gigs that eat in part. 456 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 13: Yes, correct, and of. 457 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: Course the construction industry is gagging for a good piece 458 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: of work that will wait to say. 459 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 13: So hopefully yes, So it should happen by the end 460 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 13: of this week. Well no, what's talking is were the 461 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 13: fine fine, fine, no rain? Unfortunately twenty five is are 462 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 13: high here in Auckland. 463 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: I am very good. I thank you Neva Retamanu and 464 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: this is news stork set B. We've got Don and 465 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Demayo from Australia in a few moments time, all about 466 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 2: the budget and also the attack of fire ants in Queensland, 467 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: which gives me the creeps right there just reading the headline. 468 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: And before this hour is out, we're talking to Federated 469 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: farmers about the changes to the Resource Management Act that 470 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: the government has said will happen. They said this yesterday. 471 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: As I understand it, the farmers are pretty happy. It 472 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: is our seventeen to sex this. 473 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind 474 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 475 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: Why too. It's a quarter to six and we're off 476 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: to Australia. Done and Tamaya. Good morning to you, Good 477 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 2: morning to you. We are counting down to the federal budget. 478 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 2: What's been happening. 479 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 9: Oh yes, we're down to the next few hours and 480 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 9: then it's it's skiing handed down by the Federal Treasurer 481 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 9: Jim Chalmers. It's his fourth budget tonight. It's particularly important, 482 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 9: as you can imagine, because of the looming federal election. 483 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 9: Of course, we don't know the date yet of the election, 484 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 9: but it can't be later than May seventeen. But a 485 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 9: budget can certainly influence voters. Some things we know already 486 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 9: one point two billion dollars for the cleanup bill post 487 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 9: x cyclone. Alfred. I've also had the PM hinting that 488 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 9: there could be support for the local steel and aluminium 489 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 9: industry facing those twenty five percent tariffs imposed by the US. 490 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 9: There could be some help to reduce student debt. There's 491 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 9: going to be extra childcare funding, some bill subsidies, because 492 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 9: we know all about the pressures of the cost of 493 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 9: living education boost for Queensland. There's also women's health services 494 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 9: funding boosts and interestingly I thought we hear that Labour's 495 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 9: going to make its biggest defense spending increase since World 496 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 9: War II, bringing forward one billion dollars in defense spending. 497 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 9: And that's obviously to boost our military capability. 498 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: You need to set the military on those fire ants 499 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: in Queensland. 500 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 9: Oh, Dearie May. The Queensland government has announced extra funding 501 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 9: to help tackle invasive fire ants. Would you believe this 502 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 9: month alone, sixty people have reported extreme reactions to fire 503 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 9: ant stings and twenty three people had to be hospitalized. 504 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 9: And well, we're hearing that residence of Queensland they're effectively 505 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 9: under assault from these fire ants on farms in backyards 506 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 9: and we know that six months ago the previous government said, 507 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 9: well people had to take responsibility for controlling the pets. 508 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 9: Well now with her from the current government, they're going 509 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 9: to spend an extra twenty four million dollars over the 510 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 9: next two years to try to control them. That makes 511 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 9: it sixty one million dollars to try to take care 512 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 9: of these fire ants, which can travel five kilometers in 513 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 9: one single flight, They damage crops, they eat seeds, and 514 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 9: of course there's painful stings that sadly can lead to 515 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 9: allergic reactions and the for axis even and possibly death 516 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 9: in some cases. So they're saying that if they don't 517 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 9: take care of this situation, the cost of the economy 518 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 9: could be billions of dollars over the next several years. 519 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: Evil little biggers here those bites. I mean, that's why 520 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: they call fire ants. It's stings like fire. And I 521 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: thank you, Donald Demio. It is now twelve to six 522 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens. Finally a government has decided and has actually 523 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: come about to reform the Resource Management Act. In fact, 524 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: the Resorts Management Act is gone. It's going to be 525 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: replaced by a Planning Act and a Natural Environment Act 526 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: by the next election. Analysis of the new system estimates 527 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: a forty five percent improvement in admin and compliance costs. Like, 528 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: the whole thing is a whole lot more simple. And 529 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: Mark Hooper is the RMA reform spokesperson at BEB Farmers 530 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: and joins me. Now, hallo, Mark, good morning. So finally 531 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: this brings us into line with other OECD countries. 532 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 7: Yes it does. It's good news. Really, I mean, it's 533 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 7: sometimes hard to get excited about RMA. But this is 534 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 7: great that we're seeing the government do what they said 535 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 7: they were going to do. They've entered now into phase 536 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 7: three of RMA reform by presenting at least at this stage, 537 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 7: the early outline of what a new RMA legislation might 538 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 7: look like and better add Farmers I guess, along with 539 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 7: quite a lot of other organizations, have been advocating for 540 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 7: significant RMA reform for probably twenty years or so, So 541 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 7: in that sense, it's an exciting development for New Zealand, 542 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 7: I think, and the opportunity to do things differently to 543 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 7: what we have done over recent decades and see some 544 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 7: real change. 545 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: And it's bipartisans support because a lot of it is 546 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: quite similar to Labour's proposal last electoral term. But the 547 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: important thing about National's proposal is the maintenance of property rights. 548 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: So talk us through that. 549 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's right. So that there's similarities, I guess 550 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 7: to what the previous government brought through, but there's significant 551 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 7: differences as well. And as you say, one of those 552 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 7: big ones is around the principle of property rights and 553 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 7: it's something that takes a little bit of understanding, but 554 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 7: basically it's around managing what we call externalities. So another way, 555 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 7: if an effect doesn't impose anything upon a third party 556 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 7: or outside of your property, then you should be able 557 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 7: to manage what happens in your property. So that's the 558 00:28:54,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 7: principle of property rights and being able to enjoy and 559 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 7: do within a set of national limits whatever it is 560 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 7: that you want to be able to do. 561 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: But the flip side of that, of course, if your 562 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: neighbor decides to do something that impinges on your property rights, 563 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: you've got the chance to come back at them. 564 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so absolutely, So obviously there's still limits and 565 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 7: constraints there. There's both the Planning Act, as you mentioned, 566 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 7: and the Natural Environment Act. So the Planning Act will 567 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 7: have certain limitations on it. The Natural Environment Act will 568 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 7: be based around the set of national standards, and so 569 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 7: in the farming I'm seen, for example, those national standards 570 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 7: to probably be based around a farm plan system which 571 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 7: has been developed simultaneously, and so that will provide that 572 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 7: kind of guidance in terms of what is allowable. 573 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: You're sent through some notes last night and I saw 574 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: that one of the first thing you said, it's good, 575 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: but it's not perfect. So given that these things are 576 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: slow evolutions, what else would you and fed farmers like 577 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: to see. 578 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 7: Well, I think one of the things that in terms 579 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 7: of the good category that we're very excited about is, 580 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 7: and I guess because this has been a major concern 581 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 7: for our members of some time, is what's known as 582 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 7: regulatory takings. The regulatory taking is when a regulatory framework 583 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 7: is imposed upon your land, and that might be in 584 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 7: the form of an outstanding natural landscape, Outstanding Natural Features 585 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 7: SNA's things like that. So these restrict what you can do. 586 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 7: These go against that principle that we're just talking about 587 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 7: and being able to enjoy property rights, and so they 588 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 7: are in effect of regulatory taking, and what we're advocating for, 589 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 7: and what seems to be indicating here is that there 590 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 7: would be some sort of compensation associated with that. If 591 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 7: there is a public benefit, then the public should be 592 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 7: able to compensate in some way for that imposition on 593 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 7: private property rights. That's a good step forward. We'll see 594 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 7: how that develops and what the detail around that is, 595 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 7: but that's something good, I guess in terms of the 596 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 7: things that we would want to keep an eye on. 597 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 7: This talk of a shift of having one planned per region, 598 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 7: and we don't want to see local voice lost, but 599 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 7: we think that there's there's you know, probably a good 600 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 7: line that's been developed there in terms of proposing that 601 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 7: each individual district prepare its own plan. But the big 602 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 7: game is remembered that to have to try and have 603 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 7: less consents. But that also then means that we move 604 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 7: to a system where there's more focus on compliance and enforcement, 605 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 7: and so that's something again that you would have to 606 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 7: see a bit of a transition as to how that 607 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 7: would work. So that would be something to look out for. 608 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: Good south Mark Hooper, Federator Farmer's Roma Reform. Thank you 609 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: for your time today. It is seven to six The. 610 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: News you need this morning and the in depth analysis 611 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: earlier edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room Make your 612 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: Property Search Simple news Talk sippy And. 613 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: With all this good news stuff for farmers, more good 614 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: news for farmers. The fon Terra shareholders fun just broke 615 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: through the six dollars a share barrier for the first 616 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: time in seven years, well on the back of buoyant 617 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: dairy prices. But a word of warning, we're still waiting 618 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: to see the effects of any possible tariffs from America. 619 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: Apparently we should know more about April the second, But 620 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: there you go. Things are looking good. Another good news 621 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: story and Mike Huskins here again, good morning. 622 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 14: We're talking about that this morning, actually beef and lamb, 623 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 14: because it's been building in Australia. But my suspicion is 624 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 14: I think I'm right in saying that the Australians don't 625 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 14: allow beef in from America because of the additives. And 626 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 14: I'm not sure. And the other point, of course is 627 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 14: if you make a lot of your own beef, which 628 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 14: we do, do you actually need to import anything. So 629 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 14: so we have a look at that this morning. 630 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: There's also that forty five billion dollars sort of imbalance. 631 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 14: And that's what they may look at because there's a 632 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 14: massive imbalance here as well. It's because, yeah, because we're 633 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 14: very good at beef, obviously, and if you look at 634 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 14: those figures, we've never sold more beef to the Americans. 635 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 14: They love it, which is all fine, but then they'll 636 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 14: look at the numbers, just pure maths and go, hold on, 637 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 14: how can you not buying us? And the answer is obvious, 638 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 14: but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll understand any of that. 639 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 14: So we look at that for the KRENGA happy Road 640 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 14: story on the building in this So this is where 641 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 14: all so Chris Bishop went off the other day and 642 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 14: it was a Fair and Hay designed and if you 643 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 14: don't know anything about design, Fair and Hay are geniuses 644 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 14: and there it's impossible for them all would exactly. It's 645 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 14: a beautiful So that's what's wrong obviously if you can't. 646 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 14: And then there was the wind farm the other day 647 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 14: in Southland. 648 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: Can I go back to the building though the commissioner said, oh, 649 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: it's about the historical precinct there that used to be 650 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: a rebel sport. It's not historical there. 651 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 14: So my great hope, I think our great hope is 652 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 14: that whatever they're going to do actually allows that stuff 653 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 14: to get on. And the wind farm the other day 654 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 14: in Southland that under fast track got turned down, can 655 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 14: just go back to that building that's Jimmy Kirkpatrick's flannel 656 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 14: great projects to go. 657 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go. Anyway, we're looking at that 658 00:33:54,520 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: more days to producer, can see you tomorrow. 659 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: Wait to bring it in if you know me push 660 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: some Myzony for more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. 661 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks it be from five am weekdays, 662 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio,