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Speaker 3: Hi. There we're back on the front foot again the
Speaker 3: build up to the World Test Championship Final. I'm picking aussy,
Speaker 3: but South Africa has some exciting talent. They were hardly
Speaker 3: tested in the preliminary stage. Let's wait to see next week.
Speaker 3: Here's the final hest the cricket side against splitting the
Speaker 3: Black Beeps coaching roles, so very stead is on the butt.
Speaker 3: A sad reflection to start with. One of our good
Speaker 3: mates and commentary colleague passed away, probably more commonly remembered
Speaker 3: as Black Apps coach David trist spent some interesting hours
Speaker 3: with us in the commentary box. One of these joins
Speaker 3: us to remember him and his passionate whitment to Brigand
Speaker 3: and Jerry are acorner Man who loved talking about the
Speaker 3: game and enjoyed long periods of discourse. You did get
Speaker 3: down to some long discussion VOTs, wouldn't it?
Speaker 5: This could actually go through the whole podcast, wise, couldn't it.
Speaker 5: I didn't know Dave that well, while will know him
Speaker 5: probably better. But the very amicable person loved pondering things
Speaker 5: and teasing out situations, you know, like a piece of wool.
Speaker 5: His mustache used to twitch with possibilities, didn't it? Always
Speaker 5: another way that doing something a bit different. He used
Speaker 5: to see the world slightly different. He used to see
Speaker 5: the skytower and the beehive and the rest of us
Speaker 5: saw the main stand.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I do remember him at the Rothmans tournament I went
Speaker 5: to and under twenty three tournament.
Speaker 6: They're no longer going, are they. I was hell of Aroor.
Speaker 5: I must have been sixteen playing for Wellington. I remember
Speaker 5: Richard Collins was in the team. It was a tournament
Speaker 5: played in Canterbury and I don't know how it happened.
Speaker 5: It cost me a lot, but I scraped into the
Speaker 5: New Zealand side and alongside the Canterbury trio of Alan
Speaker 5: hauntsel Dale Hadley and David Tryst, and we played a
Speaker 5: couple of games, and then we met the winners of
Speaker 5: the Plunket Shield Auckland at Eden Park and the bowlers
Speaker 5: sat on the other side of the dressing room, so
Speaker 5: I wasn't drawn into their talks. And I was, of
Speaker 5: course twelfth man, so I knew the dressing room quite
Speaker 5: well by the end of the game. But Dave was
Speaker 5: a really pleasant man, wasn't he. I mean he just
Speaker 5: loved talking about the game.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he and he had a lot of perish
Speaker 3: and you probably would have played against him more often
Speaker 3: than with him Wally.
Speaker 7: I played a lot of the in the early days
Speaker 7: against Tristy. I was at the same tournament that Jeremy
Speaker 7: was at, and I think I was probably in the
Speaker 7: same game against Auckland, and I've got an idea. Jeremy
Speaker 7: my first first class game, I think, and I managed
Speaker 7: to get a pair and also managed to drop about
Speaker 7: four catches. So it was at the start of a
Speaker 7: very long and difficult career for me, really. But I
Speaker 7: did play a lot with Tristy, and you're right, and
Speaker 7: everything you say about him, I've got a few words here.
Speaker 7: I would have found him to be an extremely positive person,
Speaker 7: extremely thoughtful, loved the long talk about the game, and
Speaker 7: you're right when he wanted to theorize it was a
Speaker 7: It was a long and and and sometimes some times
Speaker 7: I win a wee bit too long because I forgot
Speaker 7: what he started with sometimes when he started talking about
Speaker 7: the theories of the game. But I just found in
Speaker 7: one of those really nice guys you always want to
Speaker 7: think about. When you meet people and you haven't seen
Speaker 7: them for a whole season or a summer, or you
Speaker 7: see them in the new year, and they come up
Speaker 7: and they shake their hand, they shake your hand and
Speaker 7: they say, really good to see you. Sometimes you wonder
Speaker 7: whether they mean it. Tristi's the sort of guy. He
Speaker 7: wanted to meet you, and he was honest. He wanted
Speaker 7: to ask about your family. He wanted to talk about
Speaker 7: the cricket that was going to be on in the
Speaker 7: next few days. He managed always to talk me into
Speaker 7: where the next race meeting was at. And was I
Speaker 7: still interested in being a part owner of a race horse?
Speaker 7: And I got right through a very long career with
Speaker 7: him without shit, without giving him any of my money
Speaker 7: for any of the horses that came fourth and fifth,
Speaker 7: which Tristie had. He was a guy who was well organized.
Speaker 7: Though he would not watch a lot of cricket, but
Speaker 7: he would read a lot of cricket. And when he
Speaker 7: came to Lancaster Park in those early days when I
Speaker 7: used to drive up from Dunedin to do some commentary,
Speaker 7: I really look forward to meeting up with him because
Speaker 7: he would have a theory on the way the game
Speaker 7: is going to go. He was just a nice guy
Speaker 7: to be with and I'm sure that a lot of
Speaker 7: people around New Zealand would realize it's a sad day
Speaker 7: for New Zealand when we lose someone from the New
Speaker 7: Zealand cricket family. And I think if Tristy as someone
Speaker 7: who was genuinely a big part of that, and he
Speaker 7: was proud to be part of the New Zealand cricket family.
Speaker 7: It's something he really took quite seriously.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Coached the Black Caps, he coached Hong Kong, he
Speaker 3: coached the Netherlands. He coached in South Africa against for
Speaker 3: the Eastern Province. They won a title there. He took
Speaker 3: over from Steve Rixon and did a couple of years
Speaker 3: and of course the ICC champions Trophy, our first international trophy,
Speaker 3: was one under his leadership as coach and you know,
Speaker 3: a fun guy. I must admit I did upset him once.
Speaker 3: I have to, I have to own up. I promised
Speaker 3: to ring him and I never got through to him.
Speaker 3: You know what you get when someone's there. You know
Speaker 3: you cannot be reached at the moment, Can you leave
Speaker 3: a message? And I did this for about four months
Speaker 3: until he rang me one day complaining about the fact
Speaker 3: that I hadn't rung him. I said, I have, I've
Speaker 3: rung you so many times. What's your number, Tristy? And
Speaker 3: he gave me the number, which was totally different to
Speaker 3: the number that I'd been ringing, and I said, I've
Speaker 3: rung this number. He said, oh no, He said, I
Speaker 3: lost that phone down in the yard or down in
Speaker 3: the farm or down in the paddock about five months ago.
Speaker 3: So I haven't been able to find it ever since.
Speaker 3: So we had a discussion about his last phone. But
Speaker 3: it was that was the funny side of Tristy because
Speaker 3: he could, you know, he could still make a joke
Speaker 3: about that. And we solved the problems that come between us.
Speaker 3: And it was about whether he was going to work
Speaker 3: doing commentary, and I was spoke to ring him tell
Speaker 3: him yes, he was, so that's one of my memories
Speaker 3: of Tristie. But touring with him too was also a
Speaker 3: lot of fun in terms of the discussions that you
Speaker 3: would have. And I guess you have an affinity Whiley
Speaker 3: because you've been a coach, You've been in exactly the
Speaker 3: same situation. You've shared the highs and lows of the team.
Speaker 3: You live the team fos.
Speaker 7: I suppose.
Speaker 3: But you can only do so much for them. It's
Speaker 3: when they go out in the park. You can't do anything,
Speaker 3: can you.
Speaker 7: No, And I do think that Tristy did have a
Speaker 7: style that was.
Speaker 6: In letter years.
Speaker 7: We've had different types of coaches and everyone is allowed
Speaker 7: to be themselves when they take over a role as
Speaker 7: serious as a coach of a national sporting team. But
Speaker 7: he's very unassuming. He was in the background. He was
Speaker 7: a supportive coach. He would quietly sit down with players
Speaker 7: and talk about their family, their job, their ambitions in
Speaker 7: the game, where they were at, what they would need
Speaker 7: help with. He wasn't seeking the media, he wasn't seeking
Speaker 7: the forefront. Quite often you'd see teams arrive back from
Speaker 7: overseas that Tristy had been in and they'd be at
Speaker 7: the airport, Tristie would just be one of the guys
Speaker 7: down the back, just pulling his bags through the airport, quietly,
Speaker 7: not waving and seeking out someone from the media. He
Speaker 7: liked to be the supportive type of coach and I
Speaker 7: think that was quite important in those days because in
Speaker 7: the time that he took over after Steve Rixon, they
Speaker 7: weren't easy days. And it certainly isn't easy for a
Speaker 7: coach to come in and to try and fit himself
Speaker 7: into the dressing room, to work out where he needs
Speaker 7: to sit when he needs to speak, how to make
Speaker 7: sure that everyone's involved in the team, And Tristy was
Speaker 7: one of those guys who thought about that, and if anything,
Speaker 7: he really had a sympathetic year for the new players,
Speaker 7: and I think he he helped bring a lot of
Speaker 7: new players into the team and slowly change the way
Speaker 7: the team was run. I think there was quite a strength.
Speaker 7: As I said before, he's pretty thoughtful, pretty organized, and
Speaker 7: he was pretty genuine about wanting the team to do well.
Speaker 7: Not David trist Well. He didn't want to. He didn't
Speaker 7: want to stamp his mark on the team as if
Speaker 7: it was his. He genuinely wanted the new Zealand team
Speaker 7: to perform. Well, yeah he did, Jerry. Only you remember
Speaker 7: when we were working in commentary set up. I mean
Speaker 7: a real talk fest was on, wasn't it. Wadle Coney,
Speaker 7: David trust and of course another man who could probably
Speaker 7: out talk a lot.
Speaker 3: Of us, Peter Sharp. There was a fairy words delivered
Speaker 3: in those occasions.
Speaker 5: Weren't they very hard to get on once? You didn't
Speaker 5: want to actually spores of a sentence at all? Did
Speaker 5: you somebody cut in immediately and take you down with
Speaker 5: another idea.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a busy time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chure was. And you know, Tristy left a lot
Speaker 3: of good memories and it's said to realize that he's
Speaker 3: now left us something. In the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: I don't think he was particularly well, was he.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Trusty in the last couple of years are really battled,
Speaker 7: I think, And I know it's only about six months
Speaker 7: ago that I tried to ring and see whether I
Speaker 7: could go to see him in his place at Little River,
Speaker 7: But of course he wasn't there, and therefore he was
Speaker 7: struggling in later life. I just think again about trust
Speaker 7: Even in his playing days for Canterbury, there were some
Speaker 7: very big names in the Canterbury teams, and very very
Speaker 7: successful they were. That were the Colemans and Barry Hadley
Speaker 7: at the top of the order, and there was Dale
Speaker 7: and Richard and Alan Hounseill. For a while, Tristy was
Speaker 7: never one who was getting the headlines. He never made
Speaker 7: the main newspapers or the main radio commentary. He was
Speaker 7: always someone who was supportive person even as a player,
Speaker 7: and I think he continued that in a lot of
Speaker 7: his life. He was just a very very thoughtful person
Speaker 7: and always, as I said before, was interested in what
Speaker 7: people around him were doing. I think that's the real
Speaker 7: strength that sometimes we don't all share with some of
Speaker 7: the coaches these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's said that Tristy has passed away a
Speaker 3: good friend Twyson. Of course, has probably been a sad
Speaker 3: week in terms of the New Zealand create family because
Speaker 3: Robert Jumbo Anderson passed away during the week as well.
Speaker 3: And funnily enough, he played in the same first eleven
Speaker 3: at christ Church Boys High School as David Tristan nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty four. I've seen a photo of that first eleven side.
Speaker 3: Alan hounsel I think was also in that side as well.
Speaker 3: I don't remember many of the other players, but a
Speaker 3: sad passing for Jumbo Anderson I think played in the
Speaker 3: Test match at the basin review of review Wally when
Speaker 3: Music beat England.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was there. Jumbo was one of those larger
Speaker 7: than life characters that occasionally you see around the sporting fields,
Speaker 7: in particular in cricket. He absolutely loved the game of cricket.
Speaker 7: He loved people, He loved being around people who loved
Speaker 7: the dressing room. A couple of things about the way
Speaker 7: he played, and I don't mean this in any sort
Speaker 7: of derogatory manner at all, but a lot of players
Speaker 7: who played with and against Jumbo over the years could
Speaker 7: say he would absolutely murder a medium paced attack. He
Speaker 7: could absolutely go out there in Hawk Cup cricket and
Speaker 7: school record number of runs for Southam for so long
Speaker 7: and kept the Hawk Cup in that area along with
Speaker 7: the Alabasters of course. But Jumbo was one of those
Speaker 7: players in the dressing room if the team was down,
Speaker 7: someone would be able to turn around, and he had that.
Speaker 7: I mean, he was a big fellow. He was a big,
Speaker 7: big smile on his face. When he was batting and
Speaker 7: he'd hit the ball for four, he looked around and
Speaker 7: he was waiting for the next ball and he was
Speaker 7: excited about being there. I'm sure someone in the opposition
Speaker 7: teams would not see it quite the same way. But
Speaker 7: when things were going well, yeah, Jumbo kept the whole
Speaker 7: dressing room alive. And it is sad that, as I
Speaker 7: said before, New Zealand cricket family had lost another one
Speaker 7: of the real characters of the game. And a lot
Speaker 7: of people played a lot of fun games when Jumbo
Speaker 7: Anderson was around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sad news that two of the family passed away
Speaker 3: this week and rest in peace, David Tristan and Robert Anderson.
Speaker 8: Brian Waddell, Jeremy Cooney. On the front foot, we.
Speaker 3: Had some news of well senior players getting awards in
Speaker 3: the Queen's Birthday Honors. Deserved awards joined yours and Jerry's club. Actually, Wally,
Speaker 3: you've both got the same gongs, haven't you. It's got
Speaker 3: a different title now in MBE or Member of the
Speaker 3: New Zealand Order of Merital whatever they call them now,
Speaker 3: Tim Soudy and Sophie Devine, and we wish them all
Speaker 3: the best. Congratulations to them and another person who we
Speaker 3: congratulate nothing to do with the cricket World. Jerry is
Speaker 3: a friend of ours because he hosted us so many
Speaker 3: times in Towering and Mount Bong and Ui when we
Speaker 3: were up there for games. Brian Kelly, the fifty five
Speaker 3: years he's given to radio got himself an award as well,
Speaker 3: so that's great news that we can also celebrate.
Speaker 6: Yea, he loves his cars too, doesn't he.
Speaker 5: He'll be hard to get him off that subject when
Speaker 5: he's having a barbecue.
Speaker 8: Certainly not on the front foot with Waddle and Cody.
Speaker 3: He probably realized it was coming. It had taken so
Speaker 3: long to fill the coach's role, but Black Caps coach
Speaker 3: Gary stead'shighly successful seven years in charge of the national
Speaker 3: side officially comes to an end when his contract finishes. Stead,
Speaker 3: who last month confirmed each step away as coach of
Speaker 3: the White Wall formats, was effectively ruled out of contentions
Speaker 3: for the head coach role after New Zealand Cricket opted
Speaker 3: for one head coach across all three formats. Seven years
Speaker 3: with some undoubted highlights.
Speaker 9: I think the clean sweep of India last year three
Speaker 9: mila in India, considering it'd never been done before, is
Speaker 9: probably the biggest highlight of the moment. We won the
Speaker 9: World Test Championship obviously that's another one. I think making
Speaker 9: what three finals and ICC events in that time as
Speaker 9: well shows the consistency that the team has played with,
Speaker 9: and that's been one of the things I have always
Speaker 9: said that I think Mike Essen and Brenda McCullum had
Speaker 9: left the team in a really good spot and what
Speaker 9: we needed to do was keep finding ways to be
Speaker 9: consistent more often. And I think on the whole that's
Speaker 9: been that's been done recently, well.
Speaker 3: He probably expected they might not split the roles, but
Speaker 3: he doesn't feel let down by New Zealand Cricket.
Speaker 9: Look, I understood that that was there was a fair
Speaker 9: chance that that could happen, and that that that that
Speaker 9: going down the route of one coach was a model
Speaker 9: that they might still still look to take. And look,
Speaker 9: I accept that there's there's no sort of Harbor's grudge
Speaker 9: from me on on that side at all. That's the
Speaker 9: direction they think is best for the team. So and
Speaker 9: that's ultimately all I want as well.
Speaker 3: And as of now, nothing new on the horizon.
Speaker 9: Look, I mean I want to stay involved in coaching.
Speaker 9: It's it's something I'm passionate about. I enjoy seeing individuals.
Speaker 9: I enjoy seeing teams try and maximize their performance. So
Speaker 9: I'll try and take some of the learnings that I've
Speaker 9: had in the in the last well thirty years really
Speaker 9: of of domestic and international sport and see what I
Speaker 9: can apply and maybe you've used to other people in
Speaker 9: the future. But look, I still want to have an
Speaker 9: involvement in cricket as well because I think it's a
Speaker 9: game that's given so much to me as well, and.
Speaker 5: The game has changed a lot even in that seven years.
Speaker 8: When you think about it, you don't have to look
Speaker 8: at the IPL for a start off, don't you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, I mean the franchises I think has made
Speaker 9: the role of head coach a little bit more challenging
Speaker 9: than what it was. And there's certainly a lot more
Speaker 9: pressure on players now to look well, there's more pressure
Speaker 9: coming from the outside for them to look elsewhere with opportunities.
Speaker 9: And I still think that's a good thing though, that
Speaker 9: players can maximize their earnings. But I think it is
Speaker 9: important from a New Zealand cricket point of view that
Speaker 9: we do preserve the specialness and importantness I guess importance
Speaker 9: of what that silver means on the chest.
Speaker 3: So there's going to be only just the one coach
Speaker 3: Warren Le's that was what you did as coach of
Speaker 3: the New Zealand side. I sense the game has changed
Speaker 3: dramatically since you were coaching. Hasn't any and the thanes
Speaker 3: since you were in charge?
Speaker 7: I should imagine it really has. And there are times
Speaker 7: when I think back on those days and think, how
Speaker 7: do we ever get on going to Pakistan with that
Speaker 7: first team where all we didn't have We had a
Speaker 7: physio and we had a manager and we had a
Speaker 7: radio commentator and that was a lot. These days, you know,
Speaker 7: there's a big support staff. I think in Gary Steed's case,
Speaker 7: he's carried a big, big burden over the last few years.
Speaker 6: He's done it so well.
Speaker 7: He's done it so much in the style of the
Speaker 7: old fashioned coaches. He's been in the background. He's been
Speaker 7: an organizer. I think he's been the chairman of the
Speaker 7: board in a way as far as the black Caps
Speaker 7: are concerned. He's had four or five or even more
Speaker 7: that he's probably had six or seven other coaches, bolloling coaches,
Speaker 7: fielding coaches, batting coaches, people coming in with psych service
Speaker 7: and different things. So he's had a lot of people
Speaker 7: to organize, but he's done it well. And he's also
Speaker 7: taken over a team that Mike Hessen in a way
Speaker 7: had developed along with obviously Brendan McCollum, and he's had
Speaker 7: the same style or a wee bit as his more
Speaker 7: in the background, but obviously paddling very much under the
Speaker 7: water and knowing exactly what's going on. I think he's
Speaker 7: done a remarkable job. And while we can say it's
Speaker 7: sad to go, I like his comments about well, there
Speaker 7: is a time, there is a time to move on,
Speaker 7: that it's not the end of the world, and there
Speaker 7: are other things he could he may be looking at,
Speaker 7: and I certainly hope he is, but there's also a
Speaker 7: time for family, and he's mentioned that so he knows
Speaker 7: there are other responsibilities. I think congratulations to Gary Stead
Speaker 7: for the way he's worked so hard at his game
Speaker 7: from way back in the day when he when he
Speaker 7: played for New Zealand and it wasn't a long career
Speaker 7: as a player, but he knew that cricket was in
Speaker 7: his blood and cricket was something he really wanted to
Speaker 7: be involved in, and he worked his way up from
Speaker 7: the bottom of the ladder to taking the top team.
Speaker 7: I think he's done a remarkable job and I just
Speaker 7: hope that New Zealand Cricket in some way can reward
Speaker 7: him in the future and not just forget him. And
Speaker 7: I also hope they're organized with the replacement and the
Speaker 7: style of the replacement that they bring in to take
Speaker 7: over from Garystead.
Speaker 5: I mean from a personal reaction from my distance that
Speaker 5: I observed Stead, he always was diligent and hard working,
Speaker 5: a very organized guy. Seemed very well planned. The New
Speaker 5: Zealand side clearly meant a lot to him, and he
Speaker 5: was passionate about, you know, developing his charges and trying
Speaker 5: to get consistency of performance from them. He tended to
Speaker 5: retain players and be loyal to them, and I think
Speaker 5: in New Zealand, with not many in the community there
Speaker 5: her play cricket, that that's not a bad idea at all.
Speaker 6: He was loyal to them and they were loyal to him,
Speaker 6: perhaps because he selected them.
Speaker 8: And kept on doing so.
Speaker 5: But I mean some thought at times he held on
Speaker 5: to some players just a little bit long, and there
Speaker 5: would be some also thought that the Wagner and Sow
Speaker 5: the episodes towards the end was a little bit uneven treatment.
Speaker 6: But overall, you.
Speaker 5: Know, you cast your eye down the list of achievements
Speaker 5: and he was right at the top of that. It's
Speaker 5: an extraordinary list, isn't it really, guys? You know, from
Speaker 5: runner up in that ODII in twenty nineteen to the
Speaker 5: winning the World Test Championship and all the semi finals
Speaker 5: that he made in t twenties and ODI's the clean
Speaker 5: sweep of India just last year surely highlight for him,
Speaker 5: and then just recently the runner up and the champions truck.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a very impressive list for such a
Speaker 5: small nation and he, as I say, oversaw all that
Speaker 5: and we only get about what is at six to
Speaker 5: seven percent of the division of the money and distribution
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 6: From World Cups.
Speaker 5: And you've also got to remember we haven't lost too
Speaker 5: many players yet to sort of franchise fixtures all the time.
Speaker 5: Players even like Seifered and Finale and and Nicham and
Speaker 5: Conwan Williamson more recently, they still are keen to come
Speaker 5: back and play for New Zealand when there are international opportunities.
Speaker 5: When they arrived, whether it's red or white ball, not
Speaker 5: the same in the West Indies, not the same in
Speaker 5: South Africa. You know, so I think really he's done
Speaker 5: a terrific job. You know, whoever's going to be the
Speaker 5: next coach? And I see they interviewed Shane Bond and
Speaker 5: Urson Ronkey and Rob Walter, so you'd assume one of
Speaker 5: those Stead himself didn't get an interview. You just hope
Speaker 5: that they can get similar sort of performances out.
Speaker 6: Of the players.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 3: Well we're going to be looking to see who are
Speaker 3: the front runners word out of the dark corners. No
Speaker 3: one will confirm it that it's basically between Rob Walter
Speaker 3: and Shane Bond, but we will have to wait and
Speaker 3: see what New Zealand Cricket delivered. When it comes to
Speaker 3: the new coach, she's going to head New Zealand.
Speaker 8: Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 3: We have a boarding announcement here a boarding announcement for
Speaker 3: mister j Coney. Your flight to London leaves shortly. You're
Speaker 3: after the World Test Championship. We've better have a quick
Speaker 3: look at that before you go. I picking Australia.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, that's a good call, isn't it. Here was above?
Speaker 5: Well, if you if you look at any figures, and
Speaker 5: I'm a kind of a that's where I make a start.
Speaker 6: Really, not that they mean that much.
Speaker 5: Really, you look at the number of tests that say
Speaker 5: Australia have played seven hundred and fifty. If you go
Speaker 5: through each player, select your side and go through each player,
Speaker 5: add up the number of tests they played seven to fifty,
Speaker 5: and then you look at South Africa three hundred and
Speaker 5: thirty seven, so two times the number of tests plus
Speaker 5: seventy six.
Speaker 6: You look at the number of runs they've scored, They've
Speaker 6: scored seventy seven more.
Speaker 5: And if you go down the averages of each of
Speaker 5: those players and each of the sides, three seventy would
Speaker 5: be the average score.
Speaker 6: Of course it never.
Speaker 5: Happens, but you know what I mean what I'm doing,
Speaker 5: I'm getting a collective average from all the Australian players
Speaker 5: who might play, and then doing the same for South
Speaker 5: Africa and South Africa two ninety three and Australia three hundred,
Speaker 5: and then the hundreds that the players.
Speaker 6: Have scored fifty five.
Speaker 5: For the difference between the two, Australia fifty five more
Speaker 5: hundreds in their team than South Africa.
Speaker 6: That's a hell of a lot. Smith has scored himself.
Speaker 5: Fifteen more hundreds than the entire South African side. So
Speaker 5: those figures clearly say that Australia would be set favorites.
Speaker 5: I think I don't know what you guys feel about
Speaker 5: the size themselves, because this is a one off test,
Speaker 5: isn't it. But Australia have the players. They've been together
Speaker 5: for a long time as a team. You know, they
Speaker 5: have a few changes around the edges, but it's in
Speaker 5: the engine room. You know that Kowaja, Labershane Smith head Care,
Speaker 5: all the quips, Lion Green's you know joined recently and
Speaker 5: even more so than Guy Webster.
Speaker 6: But you know they all.
Speaker 5: Experienced different conditions and they found answers. They solved problems
Speaker 5: on the field. South Africa can't match that. Their top
Speaker 5: players are going to have to really play well. Robarda
Speaker 5: Jansen the left armor and then maybe in the batting Aiden,
Speaker 5: Markram and Bavooma are the ones. They all have to
Speaker 5: play at their peak really, just the same as Richard
Speaker 5: Hadley did in eighty five against the Australians when he
Speaker 5: was way better than the Australian fast bowlers and thirty
Speaker 5: three wickets and three Tests. So Robarda and Juhnson have
Speaker 5: to be able to do that really, and the players
Speaker 5: who support them, both seamers in the cordon and the
Speaker 5: keeper have to hold everything.
Speaker 6: But their batting is fallible.
Speaker 5: You know, Rickleton and Desaucei at the top ten tests
Speaker 5: and eleven tests, Beddington in the middle number five. Only
Speaker 5: twelve test stubs might play nine tests. They just can't
Speaker 5: quite match the Aussies and whatever metric that you call.
Speaker 5: But it's a one off test, straight shootout.
Speaker 6: I mean, if it's.
Speaker 5: Murky on day one and in the South Africa Bowl,
Speaker 5: Robarda is good enough if he plays well to make
Speaker 5: a mess of a top order and if it's dry.
Speaker 5: Maharaj I think is a very fine left armor as well.
Speaker 5: But the batting doesn't forge confidence. I've got to say
Speaker 5: most of the average of low.
Speaker 3: Surgeons looking at the Australian squad wally, they're still trying
Speaker 3: to find an opening to go with Kawaja, aren't they.
Speaker 7: Well, I must admit I looked yesterday at both teams
Speaker 7: and as Juramy probably agree with me, I don't follow
Speaker 7: it that closely, but I couldn't recognize because we don't
Speaker 7: see them often enough, and they don't play as much, perhaps,
Speaker 7: but I didn't recognize enough of the South African names
Speaker 7: to think that they had it's to players. And you
Speaker 7: go through the Australian team and really you can just
Speaker 7: about reel offen eight, nine, ten players who are very
Speaker 7: very good players and very experienced players. And I know,
Speaker 7: as you say, they're still uncertain about their two opening batsmen,
Speaker 7: but any two of probably four of their players are
Speaker 7: so well organized at this level that I could only
Speaker 7: see in a five day game without weather intervening and
Speaker 7: things like that, I could only see Australia winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they South Africa don't seem to come up with
Speaker 3: the team to win at the business end, Jerry Dog.
Speaker 3: They've always sort of flattered to deceive. Yes, they're going
Speaker 3: to win. We've got a chance. They've got a chance.
Speaker 3: But they don't seem to quite make it at any time,
Speaker 3: do they.
Speaker 5: Well, they've made finals in the t twenties, haven't they
Speaker 5: in the last last year, both the men and the women.
Speaker 5: They're getting better, but I think in a Test match
Speaker 5: in five days, we all know the better side has
Speaker 5: the time as long as it's available to assert their superiority.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you had to pick a combined team
Speaker 5: between the Aussies and the South Africans, I reckon maybe
Speaker 5: markrom at the top to go with Kwaja, but Smith
Speaker 5: over Bavooma.
Speaker 6: You'd pick a head.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: Then the fast bowl is come and stark Lion, perhaps
Speaker 5: Ribada might make the side, so you could only really
Speaker 5: see I think two of the South Africans pushing for
Speaker 5: a position in that combined eleven and it kind of
Speaker 5: gives you an idea about the two sides.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, Well it's going to be interesting. It starts
Speaker 3: next week at Lords and Jeremy will be there. He's
Speaker 3: getting on the plane. Wally will be able to sit
Speaker 3: back in now living rooms and watch through the night.
Speaker 3: You know, there's plenty of cricket to be watched through
Speaker 3: the night. I know you both do it on a
Speaker 3: regular basis, watching cricket in the armchair at two o'clock
Speaker 3: in the morning while I'm fast asleep. I don't have
Speaker 3: time for that sort of carry on. So we wish
Speaker 3: Jerry all the best, and I hope he sleeps on
Speaker 3: the flight because I think he's getting off the plane
Speaker 3: and going straight to Lords.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I am actually straight from straight from Singapore,
Speaker 5: arrive in England and go straight to Lord's. It's great,
Speaker 5: isn't it. I'll have a sleep there. Actually that's what
Speaker 5: I normally do in common so you know that anyway,
Speaker 5: was yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 7: Well. I can remember often turning around in the commentary
Speaker 7: box to see you stretched out and on the back,
Speaker 7: eyes closed, and with that twitching hip you've had for
Speaker 7: a few years, which obviously been fixed. But there was
Speaker 7: a long wait to get to get the new hip.
Speaker 3: Wasn't it?
Speaker 6: It was mate? It was mate?
Speaker 5: Have you because IRV McSweeney's had a new hip done
Speaker 5: in the last three or four months.
Speaker 6: Ian Smith has had us have done as well, you keepers.
Speaker 7: My problem was Monees even though you thought the ball
Speaker 7: went into the gloves quite often me on the on
Speaker 7: the end of.
Speaker 3: The yeah, I got something else, had a good bottle
Speaker 3: of gin. That'll be help, wouldn't it?
Speaker 7: One win missing one time?
Speaker 3: Remember one to one went missing? But never mind. We're
Speaker 3: not going to carry on about that now. We're going
Speaker 3: to wish Jerry all the best to the best flight
Speaker 3: over there and enjoy the World Test Championship. So we'll
Speaker 3: talk to you in the u k.
Speaker 8: J C yep.
Speaker 6: Thanks once. Yeah yet by all means.
Speaker 7: Being too much on my prison.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 6: I'll get that new knee for you.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, talking to your Niga summer.
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