1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sat B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:15,173 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 3 00:00:15,333 --> 00:00:19,533 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. 4 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:25,213 Speaker 2: Take another pair, Now get on It's trick. It is out, 5 00:00:25,533 --> 00:00:30,373 Speaker 2: The test is over. The smooth Wow it was a 6 00:00:30,453 --> 00:00:32,893 Speaker 2: beauty is out and here he goes. 7 00:00:33,013 --> 00:00:34,933 Speaker 3: This delivery has any user to. 8 00:00:34,973 --> 00:00:41,093 Speaker 4: Bowl on the front foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, 9 00:00:41,413 --> 00:00:45,293 Speaker 4: powered by News Talks dead B at iHeart Radio. 10 00:00:47,333 --> 00:00:49,613 Speaker 3: Hi. There we're back on the front foot again the 11 00:00:49,653 --> 00:00:52,813 Speaker 3: build up to the World Test Championship Final. I'm picking aussy, 12 00:00:53,133 --> 00:00:56,573 Speaker 3: but South Africa has some exciting talent. They were hardly 13 00:00:56,693 --> 00:01:00,253 Speaker 3: tested in the preliminary stage. Let's wait to see next week. 14 00:01:00,453 --> 00:01:03,813 Speaker 3: Here's the final hest the cricket side against splitting the 15 00:01:03,813 --> 00:01:09,573 Speaker 3: Black Beeps coaching roles, so very stead is on the butt. 16 00:01:09,573 --> 00:01:12,053 Speaker 3: A sad reflection to start with. One of our good 17 00:01:12,093 --> 00:01:17,573 Speaker 3: mates and commentary colleague passed away, probably more commonly remembered 18 00:01:17,733 --> 00:01:22,173 Speaker 3: as Black Apps coach David trist spent some interesting hours 19 00:01:22,173 --> 00:01:24,373 Speaker 3: with us in the commentary box. One of these joins 20 00:01:24,453 --> 00:01:27,213 Speaker 3: us to remember him and his passionate whitment to Brigand 21 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:30,293 Speaker 3: and Jerry are acorner Man who loved talking about the 22 00:01:30,293 --> 00:01:34,213 Speaker 3: game and enjoyed long periods of discourse. You did get 23 00:01:34,253 --> 00:01:36,333 Speaker 3: down to some long discussion VOTs, wouldn't it? 24 00:01:36,693 --> 00:01:39,453 Speaker 5: This could actually go through the whole podcast, wise, couldn't it. 25 00:01:40,053 --> 00:01:44,613 Speaker 5: I didn't know Dave that well, while will know him 26 00:01:44,693 --> 00:01:51,733 Speaker 5: probably better. But the very amicable person loved pondering things 27 00:01:51,813 --> 00:01:54,933 Speaker 5: and teasing out situations, you know, like a piece of wool. 28 00:01:56,293 --> 00:02:00,373 Speaker 5: His mustache used to twitch with possibilities, didn't it? Always 29 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:04,453 Speaker 5: another way that doing something a bit different. He used 30 00:02:04,453 --> 00:02:06,653 Speaker 5: to see the world slightly different. He used to see 31 00:02:06,693 --> 00:02:08,933 Speaker 5: the skytower and the beehive and the rest of us 32 00:02:08,933 --> 00:02:10,013 Speaker 5: saw the main stand. 33 00:02:10,653 --> 00:02:10,813 Speaker 3: You know. 34 00:02:11,773 --> 00:02:16,493 Speaker 5: I do remember him at the Rothmans tournament I went 35 00:02:16,613 --> 00:02:18,253 Speaker 5: to and under twenty three tournament. 36 00:02:18,293 --> 00:02:21,893 Speaker 6: They're no longer going, are they. I was hell of Aroor. 37 00:02:21,973 --> 00:02:25,213 Speaker 5: I must have been sixteen playing for Wellington. I remember 38 00:02:25,333 --> 00:02:27,933 Speaker 5: Richard Collins was in the team. It was a tournament 39 00:02:28,013 --> 00:02:31,973 Speaker 5: played in Canterbury and I don't know how it happened. 40 00:02:31,973 --> 00:02:33,733 Speaker 5: It cost me a lot, but I scraped into the 41 00:02:33,773 --> 00:02:39,413 Speaker 5: New Zealand side and alongside the Canterbury trio of Alan 42 00:02:39,533 --> 00:02:45,613 Speaker 5: hauntsel Dale Hadley and David Tryst, and we played a 43 00:02:45,653 --> 00:02:49,253 Speaker 5: couple of games, and then we met the winners of 44 00:02:49,293 --> 00:02:53,133 Speaker 5: the Plunket Shield Auckland at Eden Park and the bowlers 45 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:54,933 Speaker 5: sat on the other side of the dressing room, so 46 00:02:55,013 --> 00:02:58,613 Speaker 5: I wasn't drawn into their talks. And I was, of 47 00:02:58,693 --> 00:03:00,853 Speaker 5: course twelfth man, so I knew the dressing room quite 48 00:03:00,893 --> 00:03:04,453 Speaker 5: well by the end of the game. But Dave was 49 00:03:04,533 --> 00:03:07,853 Speaker 5: a really pleasant man, wasn't he. I mean he just 50 00:03:08,093 --> 00:03:09,693 Speaker 5: loved talking about the game. 51 00:03:10,093 --> 00:03:12,613 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he and he had a lot of perish 52 00:03:12,733 --> 00:03:15,093 Speaker 3: and you probably would have played against him more often 53 00:03:15,173 --> 00:03:15,893 Speaker 3: than with him Wally. 54 00:03:17,373 --> 00:03:19,733 Speaker 7: I played a lot of the in the early days 55 00:03:20,093 --> 00:03:23,533 Speaker 7: against Tristy. I was at the same tournament that Jeremy 56 00:03:23,653 --> 00:03:25,133 Speaker 7: was at, and I think I was probably in the 57 00:03:25,213 --> 00:03:29,533 Speaker 7: same game against Auckland, and I've got an idea. Jeremy 58 00:03:30,213 --> 00:03:33,213 Speaker 7: my first first class game, I think, and I managed 59 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:36,813 Speaker 7: to get a pair and also managed to drop about 60 00:03:36,853 --> 00:03:39,213 Speaker 7: four catches. So it was at the start of a 61 00:03:39,333 --> 00:03:43,253 Speaker 7: very long and difficult career for me, really. But I 62 00:03:44,533 --> 00:03:47,653 Speaker 7: did play a lot with Tristy, and you're right, and 63 00:03:47,733 --> 00:03:49,933 Speaker 7: everything you say about him, I've got a few words here. 64 00:03:50,453 --> 00:03:53,813 Speaker 7: I would have found him to be an extremely positive person, 65 00:03:54,573 --> 00:03:59,373 Speaker 7: extremely thoughtful, loved the long talk about the game, and 66 00:03:59,813 --> 00:04:02,893 Speaker 7: you're right when he wanted to theorize it was a 67 00:04:03,253 --> 00:04:08,613 Speaker 7: It was a long and and and sometimes some times 68 00:04:08,653 --> 00:04:10,973 Speaker 7: I win a wee bit too long because I forgot 69 00:04:11,053 --> 00:04:13,733 Speaker 7: what he started with sometimes when he started talking about 70 00:04:13,733 --> 00:04:16,733 Speaker 7: the theories of the game. But I just found in 71 00:04:16,773 --> 00:04:20,453 Speaker 7: one of those really nice guys you always want to 72 00:04:20,533 --> 00:04:22,893 Speaker 7: think about. When you meet people and you haven't seen 73 00:04:22,933 --> 00:04:25,373 Speaker 7: them for a whole season or a summer, or you 74 00:04:25,453 --> 00:04:27,773 Speaker 7: see them in the new year, and they come up 75 00:04:27,773 --> 00:04:29,933 Speaker 7: and they shake their hand, they shake your hand and 76 00:04:30,293 --> 00:04:33,253 Speaker 7: they say, really good to see you. Sometimes you wonder 77 00:04:33,293 --> 00:04:36,093 Speaker 7: whether they mean it. Tristi's the sort of guy. He 78 00:04:36,293 --> 00:04:39,093 Speaker 7: wanted to meet you, and he was honest. He wanted 79 00:04:39,093 --> 00:04:42,693 Speaker 7: to ask about your family. He wanted to talk about 80 00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:44,293 Speaker 7: the cricket that was going to be on in the 81 00:04:44,373 --> 00:04:48,013 Speaker 7: next few days. He managed always to talk me into 82 00:04:48,813 --> 00:04:51,653 Speaker 7: where the next race meeting was at. And was I 83 00:04:51,813 --> 00:04:55,293 Speaker 7: still interested in being a part owner of a race horse? 84 00:04:55,333 --> 00:04:57,813 Speaker 7: And I got right through a very long career with 85 00:04:57,933 --> 00:05:01,293 Speaker 7: him without shit, without giving him any of my money 86 00:05:01,573 --> 00:05:03,853 Speaker 7: for any of the horses that came fourth and fifth, 87 00:05:04,133 --> 00:05:08,333 Speaker 7: which Tristie had. He was a guy who was well organized. 88 00:05:08,613 --> 00:05:11,973 Speaker 7: Though he would not watch a lot of cricket, but 89 00:05:12,053 --> 00:05:14,053 Speaker 7: he would read a lot of cricket. And when he 90 00:05:14,173 --> 00:05:16,613 Speaker 7: came to Lancaster Park in those early days when I 91 00:05:16,933 --> 00:05:19,373 Speaker 7: used to drive up from Dunedin to do some commentary, 92 00:05:19,733 --> 00:05:21,733 Speaker 7: I really look forward to meeting up with him because 93 00:05:22,053 --> 00:05:24,173 Speaker 7: he would have a theory on the way the game 94 00:05:24,293 --> 00:05:26,973 Speaker 7: is going to go. He was just a nice guy 95 00:05:27,093 --> 00:05:30,493 Speaker 7: to be with and I'm sure that a lot of 96 00:05:30,533 --> 00:05:33,813 Speaker 7: people around New Zealand would realize it's a sad day 97 00:05:33,893 --> 00:05:36,413 Speaker 7: for New Zealand when we lose someone from the New 98 00:05:36,493 --> 00:05:39,573 Speaker 7: Zealand cricket family. And I think if Tristy as someone 99 00:05:39,613 --> 00:05:42,333 Speaker 7: who was genuinely a big part of that, and he 100 00:05:42,493 --> 00:05:45,453 Speaker 7: was proud to be part of the New Zealand cricket family. 101 00:05:45,653 --> 00:05:47,813 Speaker 7: It's something he really took quite seriously. 102 00:05:48,333 --> 00:05:51,773 Speaker 3: Yeah. Coached the Black Caps, he coached Hong Kong, he 103 00:05:51,853 --> 00:05:54,613 Speaker 3: coached the Netherlands. He coached in South Africa against for 104 00:05:54,813 --> 00:05:58,053 Speaker 3: the Eastern Province. They won a title there. He took 105 00:05:58,093 --> 00:06:00,213 Speaker 3: over from Steve Rixon and did a couple of years 106 00:06:00,253 --> 00:06:04,093 Speaker 3: and of course the ICC champions Trophy, our first international trophy, 107 00:06:04,933 --> 00:06:09,093 Speaker 3: was one under his leadership as coach and you know, 108 00:06:09,253 --> 00:06:11,813 Speaker 3: a fun guy. I must admit I did upset him once. 109 00:06:11,933 --> 00:06:14,613 Speaker 3: I have to, I have to own up. I promised 110 00:06:14,653 --> 00:06:17,693 Speaker 3: to ring him and I never got through to him. 111 00:06:17,693 --> 00:06:21,133 Speaker 3: You know what you get when someone's there. You know 112 00:06:21,613 --> 00:06:23,773 Speaker 3: you cannot be reached at the moment, Can you leave 113 00:06:23,813 --> 00:06:26,853 Speaker 3: a message? And I did this for about four months 114 00:06:27,933 --> 00:06:30,373 Speaker 3: until he rang me one day complaining about the fact 115 00:06:30,413 --> 00:06:32,413 Speaker 3: that I hadn't rung him. I said, I have, I've 116 00:06:32,493 --> 00:06:35,613 Speaker 3: rung you so many times. What's your number, Tristy? And 117 00:06:35,733 --> 00:06:38,053 Speaker 3: he gave me the number, which was totally different to 118 00:06:38,133 --> 00:06:41,213 Speaker 3: the number that I'd been ringing, and I said, I've 119 00:06:41,293 --> 00:06:43,613 Speaker 3: rung this number. He said, oh no, He said, I 120 00:06:43,693 --> 00:06:45,973 Speaker 3: lost that phone down in the yard or down in 121 00:06:46,013 --> 00:06:49,013 Speaker 3: the farm or down in the paddock about five months ago. 122 00:06:49,453 --> 00:06:51,853 Speaker 3: So I haven't been able to find it ever since. 123 00:06:53,133 --> 00:06:55,773 Speaker 3: So we had a discussion about his last phone. But 124 00:06:56,173 --> 00:06:59,413 Speaker 3: it was that was the funny side of Tristy because 125 00:06:59,453 --> 00:07:01,333 Speaker 3: he could, you know, he could still make a joke 126 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:05,933 Speaker 3: about that. And we solved the problems that come between us. 127 00:07:05,973 --> 00:07:07,613 Speaker 3: And it was about whether he was going to work 128 00:07:07,653 --> 00:07:10,893 Speaker 3: doing commentary, and I was spoke to ring him tell 129 00:07:10,933 --> 00:07:13,813 Speaker 3: him yes, he was, so that's one of my memories 130 00:07:13,853 --> 00:07:16,893 Speaker 3: of Tristie. But touring with him too was also a 131 00:07:16,973 --> 00:07:19,693 Speaker 3: lot of fun in terms of the discussions that you 132 00:07:19,733 --> 00:07:22,813 Speaker 3: would have. And I guess you have an affinity Whiley 133 00:07:22,893 --> 00:07:25,333 Speaker 3: because you've been a coach, You've been in exactly the 134 00:07:25,413 --> 00:07:28,933 Speaker 3: same situation. You've shared the highs and lows of the team. 135 00:07:29,453 --> 00:07:33,373 Speaker 3: You live the team fos. 136 00:07:33,133 --> 00:07:33,613 Speaker 7: I suppose. 137 00:07:34,413 --> 00:07:36,333 Speaker 3: But you can only do so much for them. It's 138 00:07:36,333 --> 00:07:38,013 Speaker 3: when they go out in the park. You can't do anything, 139 00:07:38,053 --> 00:07:38,253 Speaker 3: can you. 140 00:07:39,413 --> 00:07:41,893 Speaker 7: No, And I do think that Tristy did have a 141 00:07:41,973 --> 00:07:43,213 Speaker 7: style that was. 142 00:07:45,213 --> 00:07:45,973 Speaker 6: In letter years. 143 00:07:46,053 --> 00:07:48,373 Speaker 7: We've had different types of coaches and everyone is allowed 144 00:07:48,413 --> 00:07:51,133 Speaker 7: to be themselves when they take over a role as 145 00:07:51,173 --> 00:07:54,373 Speaker 7: serious as a coach of a national sporting team. But 146 00:07:55,013 --> 00:07:58,293 Speaker 7: he's very unassuming. He was in the background. He was 147 00:07:58,333 --> 00:08:02,693 Speaker 7: a supportive coach. He would quietly sit down with players 148 00:08:03,133 --> 00:08:07,893 Speaker 7: and talk about their family, their job, their ambitions in 149 00:08:07,933 --> 00:08:10,773 Speaker 7: the game, where they were at, what they would need 150 00:08:10,893 --> 00:08:15,093 Speaker 7: help with. He wasn't seeking the media, he wasn't seeking 151 00:08:15,173 --> 00:08:18,573 Speaker 7: the forefront. Quite often you'd see teams arrive back from 152 00:08:18,653 --> 00:08:21,573 Speaker 7: overseas that Tristy had been in and they'd be at 153 00:08:21,573 --> 00:08:23,933 Speaker 7: the airport, Tristie would just be one of the guys 154 00:08:24,013 --> 00:08:27,213 Speaker 7: down the back, just pulling his bags through the airport, quietly, 155 00:08:27,533 --> 00:08:32,133 Speaker 7: not waving and seeking out someone from the media. He 156 00:08:32,413 --> 00:08:36,013 Speaker 7: liked to be the supportive type of coach and I 157 00:08:36,133 --> 00:08:38,733 Speaker 7: think that was quite important in those days because in 158 00:08:39,093 --> 00:08:42,173 Speaker 7: the time that he took over after Steve Rixon, they 159 00:08:42,213 --> 00:08:45,133 Speaker 7: weren't easy days. And it certainly isn't easy for a 160 00:08:45,213 --> 00:08:48,053 Speaker 7: coach to come in and to try and fit himself 161 00:08:48,093 --> 00:08:51,013 Speaker 7: into the dressing room, to work out where he needs 162 00:08:51,133 --> 00:08:54,773 Speaker 7: to sit when he needs to speak, how to make 163 00:08:54,853 --> 00:08:57,733 Speaker 7: sure that everyone's involved in the team, And Tristy was 164 00:08:57,773 --> 00:09:02,053 Speaker 7: one of those guys who thought about that, and if anything, 165 00:09:02,173 --> 00:09:07,013 Speaker 7: he really had a sympathetic year for the new players, 166 00:09:07,093 --> 00:09:09,493 Speaker 7: and I think he he helped bring a lot of 167 00:09:09,573 --> 00:09:13,133 Speaker 7: new players into the team and slowly change the way 168 00:09:13,213 --> 00:09:16,173 Speaker 7: the team was run. I think there was quite a strength. 169 00:09:17,173 --> 00:09:22,173 Speaker 7: As I said before, he's pretty thoughtful, pretty organized, and 170 00:09:22,333 --> 00:09:24,733 Speaker 7: he was pretty genuine about wanting the team to do well. 171 00:09:24,813 --> 00:09:27,693 Speaker 7: Not David trist Well. He didn't want to. He didn't 172 00:09:27,693 --> 00:09:29,533 Speaker 7: want to stamp his mark on the team as if 173 00:09:29,533 --> 00:09:32,413 Speaker 7: it was his. He genuinely wanted the new Zealand team 174 00:09:32,453 --> 00:09:36,733 Speaker 7: to perform. Well, yeah he did, Jerry. Only you remember 175 00:09:36,773 --> 00:09:39,093 Speaker 7: when we were working in commentary set up. I mean 176 00:09:39,133 --> 00:09:43,413 Speaker 7: a real talk fest was on, wasn't it. Wadle Coney, 177 00:09:44,253 --> 00:09:47,093 Speaker 7: David trust and of course another man who could probably 178 00:09:47,093 --> 00:09:47,893 Speaker 7: out talk a lot. 179 00:09:47,733 --> 00:09:51,893 Speaker 3: Of us, Peter Sharp. There was a fairy words delivered 180 00:09:52,133 --> 00:09:52,933 Speaker 3: in those occasions. 181 00:09:52,973 --> 00:09:56,413 Speaker 5: Weren't they very hard to get on once? You didn't 182 00:09:56,453 --> 00:09:59,133 Speaker 5: want to actually spores of a sentence at all? Did 183 00:09:59,253 --> 00:10:04,733 Speaker 5: you somebody cut in immediately and take you down with 184 00:10:04,853 --> 00:10:05,693 Speaker 5: another idea. 185 00:10:06,333 --> 00:10:08,173 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a busy time. 186 00:10:08,933 --> 00:10:12,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chure was. And you know, Tristy left a lot 187 00:10:12,333 --> 00:10:16,413 Speaker 3: of good memories and it's said to realize that he's 188 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:20,133 Speaker 3: now left us something. In the last couple of years. 189 00:10:20,133 --> 00:10:22,173 Speaker 3: I don't think he was particularly well, was he. 190 00:10:23,093 --> 00:10:26,133 Speaker 7: Yeah, Trusty in the last couple of years are really battled, 191 00:10:26,213 --> 00:10:29,253 Speaker 7: I think, And I know it's only about six months 192 00:10:29,253 --> 00:10:31,813 Speaker 7: ago that I tried to ring and see whether I 193 00:10:31,853 --> 00:10:34,933 Speaker 7: could go to see him in his place at Little River, 194 00:10:35,013 --> 00:10:37,933 Speaker 7: But of course he wasn't there, and therefore he was 195 00:10:37,933 --> 00:10:42,333 Speaker 7: struggling in later life. I just think again about trust 196 00:10:42,413 --> 00:10:45,853 Speaker 7: Even in his playing days for Canterbury, there were some 197 00:10:46,253 --> 00:10:49,973 Speaker 7: very big names in the Canterbury teams, and very very 198 00:10:50,333 --> 00:10:53,053 Speaker 7: successful they were. That were the Colemans and Barry Hadley 199 00:10:53,093 --> 00:10:54,853 Speaker 7: at the top of the order, and there was Dale 200 00:10:54,933 --> 00:10:58,173 Speaker 7: and Richard and Alan Hounseill. For a while, Tristy was 201 00:10:58,253 --> 00:11:01,933 Speaker 7: never one who was getting the headlines. He never made 202 00:11:02,013 --> 00:11:07,373 Speaker 7: the main newspapers or the main radio commentary. He was 203 00:11:07,413 --> 00:11:10,333 Speaker 7: always someone who was supportive person even as a player, 204 00:11:10,893 --> 00:11:13,293 Speaker 7: and I think he continued that in a lot of 205 00:11:13,373 --> 00:11:16,533 Speaker 7: his life. He was just a very very thoughtful person 206 00:11:17,413 --> 00:11:20,893 Speaker 7: and always, as I said before, was interested in what 207 00:11:21,573 --> 00:11:24,333 Speaker 7: people around him were doing. I think that's the real 208 00:11:24,413 --> 00:11:27,653 Speaker 7: strength that sometimes we don't all share with some of 209 00:11:27,693 --> 00:11:28,653 Speaker 7: the coaches these days. 210 00:11:29,533 --> 00:11:33,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's said that Tristy has passed away a 211 00:11:34,013 --> 00:11:36,693 Speaker 3: good friend Twyson. Of course, has probably been a sad 212 00:11:36,733 --> 00:11:38,653 Speaker 3: week in terms of the New Zealand create family because 213 00:11:39,333 --> 00:11:44,253 Speaker 3: Robert Jumbo Anderson passed away during the week as well. 214 00:11:44,853 --> 00:11:47,813 Speaker 3: And funnily enough, he played in the same first eleven 215 00:11:47,893 --> 00:11:51,253 Speaker 3: at christ Church Boys High School as David Tristan nineteen 216 00:11:51,333 --> 00:11:55,773 Speaker 3: sixty four. I've seen a photo of that first eleven side. 217 00:11:55,933 --> 00:11:58,533 Speaker 3: Alan hounsel I think was also in that side as well. 218 00:11:58,573 --> 00:12:01,413 Speaker 3: I don't remember many of the other players, but a 219 00:12:01,613 --> 00:12:04,413 Speaker 3: sad passing for Jumbo Anderson I think played in the 220 00:12:04,933 --> 00:12:07,293 Speaker 3: Test match at the basin review of review Wally when 221 00:12:07,973 --> 00:12:08,933 Speaker 3: Music beat England. 222 00:12:09,613 --> 00:12:13,733 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was there. Jumbo was one of those larger 223 00:12:13,853 --> 00:12:18,253 Speaker 7: than life characters that occasionally you see around the sporting fields, 224 00:12:18,293 --> 00:12:22,213 Speaker 7: in particular in cricket. He absolutely loved the game of cricket. 225 00:12:22,333 --> 00:12:25,573 Speaker 7: He loved people, He loved being around people who loved 226 00:12:25,613 --> 00:12:29,013 Speaker 7: the dressing room. A couple of things about the way 227 00:12:29,053 --> 00:12:31,973 Speaker 7: he played, and I don't mean this in any sort 228 00:12:31,973 --> 00:12:35,693 Speaker 7: of derogatory manner at all, but a lot of players 229 00:12:35,733 --> 00:12:38,453 Speaker 7: who played with and against Jumbo over the years could 230 00:12:38,493 --> 00:12:43,013 Speaker 7: say he would absolutely murder a medium paced attack. He 231 00:12:43,133 --> 00:12:45,733 Speaker 7: could absolutely go out there in Hawk Cup cricket and 232 00:12:45,893 --> 00:12:49,773 Speaker 7: school record number of runs for Southam for so long 233 00:12:50,213 --> 00:12:53,773 Speaker 7: and kept the Hawk Cup in that area along with 234 00:12:53,853 --> 00:12:56,493 Speaker 7: the Alabasters of course. But Jumbo was one of those 235 00:12:56,573 --> 00:12:59,413 Speaker 7: players in the dressing room if the team was down, 236 00:13:00,013 --> 00:13:02,573 Speaker 7: someone would be able to turn around, and he had that. 237 00:13:02,813 --> 00:13:06,213 Speaker 7: I mean, he was a big fellow. He was a big, 238 00:13:06,293 --> 00:13:09,133 Speaker 7: big smile on his face. When he was batting and 239 00:13:09,213 --> 00:13:12,453 Speaker 7: he'd hit the ball for four, he looked around and 240 00:13:12,573 --> 00:13:15,013 Speaker 7: he was waiting for the next ball and he was 241 00:13:15,093 --> 00:13:19,813 Speaker 7: excited about being there. I'm sure someone in the opposition 242 00:13:19,973 --> 00:13:22,413 Speaker 7: teams would not see it quite the same way. But 243 00:13:23,373 --> 00:13:27,013 Speaker 7: when things were going well, yeah, Jumbo kept the whole 244 00:13:27,053 --> 00:13:30,733 Speaker 7: dressing room alive. And it is sad that, as I 245 00:13:30,813 --> 00:13:35,493 Speaker 7: said before, New Zealand cricket family had lost another one 246 00:13:35,853 --> 00:13:38,293 Speaker 7: of the real characters of the game. And a lot 247 00:13:38,333 --> 00:13:41,573 Speaker 7: of people played a lot of fun games when Jumbo 248 00:13:41,653 --> 00:13:42,573 Speaker 7: Anderson was around. 249 00:13:43,013 --> 00:13:46,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, sad news that two of the family passed away 250 00:13:46,893 --> 00:13:52,613 Speaker 3: this week and rest in peace, David Tristan and Robert Anderson. 251 00:13:52,373 --> 00:13:56,853 Speaker 8: Brian Waddell, Jeremy Cooney. On the front foot, we. 252 00:13:56,973 --> 00:14:02,253 Speaker 3: Had some news of well senior players getting awards in 253 00:14:02,333 --> 00:14:09,013 Speaker 3: the Queen's Birthday Honors. Deserved awards joined yours and Jerry's club. Actually, Wally, 254 00:14:09,093 --> 00:14:11,573 Speaker 3: you've both got the same gongs, haven't you. It's got 255 00:14:11,573 --> 00:14:15,093 Speaker 3: a different title now in MBE or Member of the 256 00:14:16,093 --> 00:14:18,733 Speaker 3: New Zealand Order of Merital whatever they call them now, 257 00:14:19,053 --> 00:14:24,733 Speaker 3: Tim Soudy and Sophie Devine, and we wish them all 258 00:14:24,773 --> 00:14:27,293 Speaker 3: the best. Congratulations to them and another person who we 259 00:14:27,373 --> 00:14:29,573 Speaker 3: congratulate nothing to do with the cricket World. Jerry is 260 00:14:29,933 --> 00:14:32,653 Speaker 3: a friend of ours because he hosted us so many 261 00:14:32,773 --> 00:14:36,013 Speaker 3: times in Towering and Mount Bong and Ui when we 262 00:14:36,093 --> 00:14:39,413 Speaker 3: were up there for games. Brian Kelly, the fifty five 263 00:14:39,573 --> 00:14:43,413 Speaker 3: years he's given to radio got himself an award as well, 264 00:14:43,493 --> 00:14:47,373 Speaker 3: so that's great news that we can also celebrate. 265 00:14:48,133 --> 00:14:52,053 Speaker 6: Yea, he loves his cars too, doesn't he. 266 00:14:52,933 --> 00:14:55,653 Speaker 5: He'll be hard to get him off that subject when 267 00:14:55,653 --> 00:14:56,733 Speaker 5: he's having a barbecue. 268 00:14:57,813 --> 00:15:01,653 Speaker 8: Certainly not on the front foot with Waddle and Cody. 269 00:15:02,533 --> 00:15:04,853 Speaker 3: He probably realized it was coming. It had taken so 270 00:15:04,973 --> 00:15:07,173 Speaker 3: long to fill the coach's role, but Black Caps coach 271 00:15:07,253 --> 00:15:11,013 Speaker 3: Gary stead'shighly successful seven years in charge of the national 272 00:15:11,093 --> 00:15:15,013 Speaker 3: side officially comes to an end when his contract finishes. Stead, 273 00:15:15,013 --> 00:15:17,813 Speaker 3: who last month confirmed each step away as coach of 274 00:15:17,853 --> 00:15:21,093 Speaker 3: the White Wall formats, was effectively ruled out of contentions 275 00:15:21,133 --> 00:15:24,213 Speaker 3: for the head coach role after New Zealand Cricket opted 276 00:15:24,293 --> 00:15:28,693 Speaker 3: for one head coach across all three formats. Seven years 277 00:15:28,813 --> 00:15:30,373 Speaker 3: with some undoubted highlights. 278 00:15:30,973 --> 00:15:34,693 Speaker 9: I think the clean sweep of India last year three 279 00:15:34,773 --> 00:15:38,493 Speaker 9: mila in India, considering it'd never been done before, is 280 00:15:38,813 --> 00:15:42,173 Speaker 9: probably the biggest highlight of the moment. We won the 281 00:15:42,213 --> 00:15:47,213 Speaker 9: World Test Championship obviously that's another one. I think making 282 00:15:47,933 --> 00:15:51,053 Speaker 9: what three finals and ICC events in that time as 283 00:15:51,133 --> 00:15:54,613 Speaker 9: well shows the consistency that the team has played with, 284 00:15:54,813 --> 00:15:57,893 Speaker 9: and that's been one of the things I have always 285 00:15:57,973 --> 00:16:01,253 Speaker 9: said that I think Mike Essen and Brenda McCullum had 286 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:04,293 Speaker 9: left the team in a really good spot and what 287 00:16:04,413 --> 00:16:07,093 Speaker 9: we needed to do was keep finding ways to be 288 00:16:07,293 --> 00:16:10,173 Speaker 9: consistent more often. And I think on the whole that's 289 00:16:10,213 --> 00:16:12,733 Speaker 9: been that's been done recently, well. 290 00:16:12,773 --> 00:16:15,693 Speaker 3: He probably expected they might not split the roles, but 291 00:16:15,773 --> 00:16:18,293 Speaker 3: he doesn't feel let down by New Zealand Cricket. 292 00:16:18,773 --> 00:16:22,173 Speaker 9: Look, I understood that that was there was a fair 293 00:16:22,293 --> 00:16:27,293 Speaker 9: chance that that could happen, and that that that that 294 00:16:27,493 --> 00:16:30,533 Speaker 9: going down the route of one coach was a model 295 00:16:30,573 --> 00:16:32,973 Speaker 9: that they might still still look to take. And look, 296 00:16:33,013 --> 00:16:35,653 Speaker 9: I accept that there's there's no sort of Harbor's grudge 297 00:16:35,653 --> 00:16:38,973 Speaker 9: from me on on that side at all. That's the 298 00:16:39,213 --> 00:16:41,253 Speaker 9: direction they think is best for the team. So and 299 00:16:41,373 --> 00:16:43,173 Speaker 9: that's ultimately all I want as well. 300 00:16:43,373 --> 00:16:46,533 Speaker 3: And as of now, nothing new on the horizon. 301 00:16:47,613 --> 00:16:49,693 Speaker 9: Look, I mean I want to stay involved in coaching. 302 00:16:49,773 --> 00:16:54,013 Speaker 9: It's it's something I'm passionate about. I enjoy seeing individuals. 303 00:16:54,053 --> 00:16:57,893 Speaker 9: I enjoy seeing teams try and maximize their performance. So 304 00:16:58,853 --> 00:17:01,373 Speaker 9: I'll try and take some of the learnings that I've 305 00:17:01,453 --> 00:17:04,813 Speaker 9: had in the in the last well thirty years really 306 00:17:04,893 --> 00:17:09,293 Speaker 9: of of domestic and international sport and see what I 307 00:17:09,333 --> 00:17:11,693 Speaker 9: can apply and maybe you've used to other people in 308 00:17:11,733 --> 00:17:15,893 Speaker 9: the future. But look, I still want to have an 309 00:17:15,973 --> 00:17:17,853 Speaker 9: involvement in cricket as well because I think it's a 310 00:17:17,893 --> 00:17:19,933 Speaker 9: game that's given so much to me as well, and. 311 00:17:19,973 --> 00:17:22,013 Speaker 5: The game has changed a lot even in that seven years. 312 00:17:22,013 --> 00:17:23,213 Speaker 8: When you think about it, you don't have to look 313 00:17:23,253 --> 00:17:24,693 Speaker 8: at the IPL for a start off, don't you. 314 00:17:25,013 --> 00:17:28,373 Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, I mean the franchises I think has made 315 00:17:28,893 --> 00:17:30,933 Speaker 9: the role of head coach a little bit more challenging 316 00:17:31,053 --> 00:17:32,813 Speaker 9: than what it was. And there's certainly a lot more 317 00:17:32,853 --> 00:17:37,573 Speaker 9: pressure on players now to look well, there's more pressure 318 00:17:37,573 --> 00:17:40,533 Speaker 9: coming from the outside for them to look elsewhere with opportunities. 319 00:17:40,573 --> 00:17:42,693 Speaker 9: And I still think that's a good thing though, that 320 00:17:43,013 --> 00:17:46,133 Speaker 9: players can maximize their earnings. But I think it is 321 00:17:46,213 --> 00:17:48,453 Speaker 9: important from a New Zealand cricket point of view that 322 00:17:48,533 --> 00:17:53,573 Speaker 9: we do preserve the specialness and importantness I guess importance 323 00:17:53,733 --> 00:17:56,453 Speaker 9: of what that silver means on the chest. 324 00:17:57,213 --> 00:17:58,973 Speaker 3: So there's going to be only just the one coach 325 00:17:59,253 --> 00:18:01,893 Speaker 3: Warren Le's that was what you did as coach of 326 00:18:01,933 --> 00:18:05,493 Speaker 3: the New Zealand side. I sense the game has changed 327 00:18:05,573 --> 00:18:09,053 Speaker 3: dramatically since you were coaching. Hasn't any and the thanes 328 00:18:09,133 --> 00:18:10,453 Speaker 3: since you were in charge? 329 00:18:10,893 --> 00:18:14,253 Speaker 7: I should imagine it really has. And there are times 330 00:18:14,293 --> 00:18:16,213 Speaker 7: when I think back on those days and think, how 331 00:18:16,253 --> 00:18:18,413 Speaker 7: do we ever get on going to Pakistan with that 332 00:18:19,013 --> 00:18:21,493 Speaker 7: first team where all we didn't have We had a 333 00:18:21,533 --> 00:18:23,613 Speaker 7: physio and we had a manager and we had a 334 00:18:23,733 --> 00:18:27,493 Speaker 7: radio commentator and that was a lot. These days, you know, 335 00:18:27,773 --> 00:18:31,373 Speaker 7: there's a big support staff. I think in Gary Steed's case, 336 00:18:31,853 --> 00:18:35,973 Speaker 7: he's carried a big, big burden over the last few years. 337 00:18:35,973 --> 00:18:36,973 Speaker 6: He's done it so well. 338 00:18:37,413 --> 00:18:40,533 Speaker 7: He's done it so much in the style of the 339 00:18:40,613 --> 00:18:43,213 Speaker 7: old fashioned coaches. He's been in the background. He's been 340 00:18:43,213 --> 00:18:47,973 Speaker 7: an organizer. I think he's been the chairman of the 341 00:18:48,013 --> 00:18:50,413 Speaker 7: board in a way as far as the black Caps 342 00:18:50,453 --> 00:18:53,853 Speaker 7: are concerned. He's had four or five or even more 343 00:18:54,053 --> 00:18:57,493 Speaker 7: that he's probably had six or seven other coaches, bolloling coaches, 344 00:18:57,533 --> 00:19:01,333 Speaker 7: fielding coaches, batting coaches, people coming in with psych service 345 00:19:01,413 --> 00:19:03,693 Speaker 7: and different things. So he's had a lot of people 346 00:19:03,733 --> 00:19:06,893 Speaker 7: to organize, but he's done it well. And he's also 347 00:19:07,733 --> 00:19:11,333 Speaker 7: taken over a team that Mike Hessen in a way 348 00:19:12,133 --> 00:19:16,693 Speaker 7: had developed along with obviously Brendan McCollum, and he's had 349 00:19:16,733 --> 00:19:21,093 Speaker 7: the same style or a wee bit as his more 350 00:19:21,133 --> 00:19:25,053 Speaker 7: in the background, but obviously paddling very much under the 351 00:19:25,093 --> 00:19:28,253 Speaker 7: water and knowing exactly what's going on. I think he's 352 00:19:28,293 --> 00:19:31,453 Speaker 7: done a remarkable job. And while we can say it's 353 00:19:31,493 --> 00:19:34,133 Speaker 7: sad to go, I like his comments about well, there 354 00:19:34,213 --> 00:19:36,493 Speaker 7: is a time, there is a time to move on, 355 00:19:36,693 --> 00:19:38,413 Speaker 7: that it's not the end of the world, and there 356 00:19:38,413 --> 00:19:40,213 Speaker 7: are other things he could he may be looking at, 357 00:19:40,533 --> 00:19:43,213 Speaker 7: and I certainly hope he is, but there's also a 358 00:19:43,333 --> 00:19:46,293 Speaker 7: time for family, and he's mentioned that so he knows 359 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:50,493 Speaker 7: there are other responsibilities. I think congratulations to Gary Stead 360 00:19:51,493 --> 00:19:53,693 Speaker 7: for the way he's worked so hard at his game 361 00:19:53,813 --> 00:19:56,333 Speaker 7: from way back in the day when he when he 362 00:19:56,373 --> 00:19:59,413 Speaker 7: played for New Zealand and it wasn't a long career 363 00:19:59,493 --> 00:20:02,773 Speaker 7: as a player, but he knew that cricket was in 364 00:20:02,893 --> 00:20:05,773 Speaker 7: his blood and cricket was something he really wanted to 365 00:20:05,853 --> 00:20:08,813 Speaker 7: be involved in, and he worked his way up from 366 00:20:08,853 --> 00:20:11,893 Speaker 7: the bottom of the ladder to taking the top team. 367 00:20:12,573 --> 00:20:15,253 Speaker 7: I think he's done a remarkable job and I just 368 00:20:15,373 --> 00:20:19,293 Speaker 7: hope that New Zealand Cricket in some way can reward 369 00:20:19,413 --> 00:20:23,213 Speaker 7: him in the future and not just forget him. And 370 00:20:23,253 --> 00:20:26,533 Speaker 7: I also hope they're organized with the replacement and the 371 00:20:26,653 --> 00:20:30,013 Speaker 7: style of the replacement that they bring in to take 372 00:20:30,093 --> 00:20:31,093 Speaker 7: over from Garystead. 373 00:20:31,493 --> 00:20:35,013 Speaker 5: I mean from a personal reaction from my distance that 374 00:20:35,853 --> 00:20:41,013 Speaker 5: I observed Stead, he always was diligent and hard working, 375 00:20:41,813 --> 00:20:47,373 Speaker 5: a very organized guy. Seemed very well planned. The New 376 00:20:47,493 --> 00:20:51,853 Speaker 5: Zealand side clearly meant a lot to him, and he 377 00:20:52,053 --> 00:20:57,933 Speaker 5: was passionate about, you know, developing his charges and trying 378 00:20:58,013 --> 00:21:03,213 Speaker 5: to get consistency of performance from them. He tended to 379 00:21:03,333 --> 00:21:07,093 Speaker 5: retain players and be loyal to them, and I think 380 00:21:07,173 --> 00:21:10,853 Speaker 5: in New Zealand, with not many in the community there 381 00:21:11,013 --> 00:21:14,373 Speaker 5: her play cricket, that that's not a bad idea at all. 382 00:21:15,933 --> 00:21:18,253 Speaker 6: He was loyal to them and they were loyal to him, 383 00:21:18,973 --> 00:21:20,493 Speaker 6: perhaps because he selected them. 384 00:21:20,373 --> 00:21:21,453 Speaker 8: And kept on doing so. 385 00:21:22,133 --> 00:21:25,213 Speaker 5: But I mean some thought at times he held on 386 00:21:25,333 --> 00:21:29,173 Speaker 5: to some players just a little bit long, and there 387 00:21:29,173 --> 00:21:32,693 Speaker 5: would be some also thought that the Wagner and Sow 388 00:21:32,813 --> 00:21:37,893 Speaker 5: the episodes towards the end was a little bit uneven treatment. 389 00:21:38,573 --> 00:21:40,293 Speaker 6: But overall, you. 390 00:21:40,373 --> 00:21:44,493 Speaker 5: Know, you cast your eye down the list of achievements 391 00:21:45,093 --> 00:21:47,613 Speaker 5: and he was right at the top of that. It's 392 00:21:47,653 --> 00:21:52,773 Speaker 5: an extraordinary list, isn't it really, guys? You know, from 393 00:21:53,453 --> 00:21:56,693 Speaker 5: runner up in that ODII in twenty nineteen to the 394 00:21:57,093 --> 00:22:01,293 Speaker 5: winning the World Test Championship and all the semi finals 395 00:22:01,333 --> 00:22:05,293 Speaker 5: that he made in t twenties and ODI's the clean 396 00:22:05,493 --> 00:22:09,293 Speaker 5: sweep of India just last year surely highlight for him, 397 00:22:09,933 --> 00:22:12,373 Speaker 5: and then just recently the runner up and the champions truck. 398 00:22:12,453 --> 00:22:15,053 Speaker 5: I mean, it's a very impressive list for such a 399 00:22:15,133 --> 00:22:19,053 Speaker 5: small nation and he, as I say, oversaw all that 400 00:22:20,933 --> 00:22:22,933 Speaker 5: and we only get about what is at six to 401 00:22:23,093 --> 00:22:25,973 Speaker 5: seven percent of the division of the money and distribution 402 00:22:26,813 --> 00:22:27,373 Speaker 5: I think. 403 00:22:27,533 --> 00:22:28,533 Speaker 6: From World Cups. 404 00:22:29,533 --> 00:22:32,973 Speaker 5: And you've also got to remember we haven't lost too 405 00:22:33,053 --> 00:22:37,893 Speaker 5: many players yet to sort of franchise fixtures all the time. 406 00:22:38,373 --> 00:22:41,413 Speaker 5: Players even like Seifered and Finale and and Nicham and 407 00:22:42,013 --> 00:22:46,293 Speaker 5: Conwan Williamson more recently, they still are keen to come 408 00:22:46,373 --> 00:22:51,093 Speaker 5: back and play for New Zealand when there are international opportunities. 409 00:22:51,133 --> 00:22:53,693 Speaker 5: When they arrived, whether it's red or white ball, not 410 00:22:53,853 --> 00:22:56,973 Speaker 5: the same in the West Indies, not the same in 411 00:22:57,093 --> 00:23:02,253 Speaker 5: South Africa. You know, so I think really he's done 412 00:23:02,293 --> 00:23:04,653 Speaker 5: a terrific job. You know, whoever's going to be the 413 00:23:04,773 --> 00:23:07,893 Speaker 5: next coach? And I see they interviewed Shane Bond and 414 00:23:08,133 --> 00:23:14,373 Speaker 5: Urson Ronkey and Rob Walter, so you'd assume one of 415 00:23:14,453 --> 00:23:19,253 Speaker 5: those Stead himself didn't get an interview. You just hope 416 00:23:19,293 --> 00:23:21,493 Speaker 5: that they can get similar sort of performances out. 417 00:23:21,413 --> 00:23:21,973 Speaker 6: Of the players. 418 00:23:22,853 --> 00:23:23,053 Speaker 7: Yep. 419 00:23:23,173 --> 00:23:25,773 Speaker 3: Well we're going to be looking to see who are 420 00:23:25,813 --> 00:23:31,333 Speaker 3: the front runners word out of the dark corners. No 421 00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:36,333 Speaker 3: one will confirm it that it's basically between Rob Walter 422 00:23:36,453 --> 00:23:38,373 Speaker 3: and Shane Bond, but we will have to wait and 423 00:23:38,453 --> 00:23:41,133 Speaker 3: see what New Zealand Cricket delivered. When it comes to 424 00:23:41,493 --> 00:23:45,453 Speaker 3: the new coach, she's going to head New Zealand. 425 00:23:45,893 --> 00:23:49,573 Speaker 8: Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot. 426 00:23:49,773 --> 00:23:52,613 Speaker 3: We have a boarding announcement here a boarding announcement for 427 00:23:52,853 --> 00:23:59,453 Speaker 3: mister j Coney. Your flight to London leaves shortly. You're 428 00:23:59,493 --> 00:24:01,373 Speaker 3: after the World Test Championship. We've better have a quick 429 00:24:01,413 --> 00:24:04,213 Speaker 3: look at that before you go. I picking Australia. 430 00:24:04,813 --> 00:24:09,133 Speaker 6: Oh wow, that's a good call, isn't it. Here was above? 431 00:24:10,733 --> 00:24:14,173 Speaker 5: Well, if you if you look at any figures, and 432 00:24:14,293 --> 00:24:17,493 Speaker 5: I'm a kind of a that's where I make a start. 433 00:24:17,693 --> 00:24:19,253 Speaker 6: Really, not that they mean that much. 434 00:24:19,413 --> 00:24:23,893 Speaker 5: Really, you look at the number of tests that say 435 00:24:23,973 --> 00:24:26,733 Speaker 5: Australia have played seven hundred and fifty. If you go 436 00:24:26,893 --> 00:24:30,533 Speaker 5: through each player, select your side and go through each player, 437 00:24:30,533 --> 00:24:32,813 Speaker 5: add up the number of tests they played seven to fifty, 438 00:24:34,093 --> 00:24:36,333 Speaker 5: and then you look at South Africa three hundred and 439 00:24:36,413 --> 00:24:40,373 Speaker 5: thirty seven, so two times the number of tests plus 440 00:24:40,453 --> 00:24:41,093 Speaker 5: seventy six. 441 00:24:41,973 --> 00:24:44,053 Speaker 6: You look at the number of runs they've scored, They've 442 00:24:44,133 --> 00:24:45,653 Speaker 6: scored seventy seven more. 443 00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:47,773 Speaker 5: And if you go down the averages of each of 444 00:24:47,853 --> 00:24:51,533 Speaker 5: those players and each of the sides, three seventy would 445 00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:52,693 Speaker 5: be the average score. 446 00:24:53,373 --> 00:24:54,213 Speaker 6: Of course it never. 447 00:24:54,253 --> 00:24:56,413 Speaker 5: Happens, but you know what I mean what I'm doing, 448 00:24:56,413 --> 00:25:00,293 Speaker 5: I'm getting a collective average from all the Australian players 449 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,773 Speaker 5: who might play, and then doing the same for South 450 00:25:02,813 --> 00:25:08,133 Speaker 5: Africa and South Africa two ninety three and Australia three hundred, 451 00:25:09,173 --> 00:25:11,773 Speaker 5: and then the hundreds that the players. 452 00:25:11,413 --> 00:25:14,893 Speaker 6: Have scored fifty five. 453 00:25:16,733 --> 00:25:20,453 Speaker 5: For the difference between the two, Australia fifty five more 454 00:25:20,613 --> 00:25:23,933 Speaker 5: hundreds in their team than South Africa. 455 00:25:24,213 --> 00:25:27,453 Speaker 6: That's a hell of a lot. Smith has scored himself. 456 00:25:27,573 --> 00:25:32,253 Speaker 5: Fifteen more hundreds than the entire South African side. So 457 00:25:33,013 --> 00:25:38,413 Speaker 5: those figures clearly say that Australia would be set favorites. 458 00:25:39,213 --> 00:25:42,253 Speaker 5: I think I don't know what you guys feel about 459 00:25:42,573 --> 00:25:45,893 Speaker 5: the size themselves, because this is a one off test, 460 00:25:46,053 --> 00:25:50,173 Speaker 5: isn't it. But Australia have the players. They've been together 461 00:25:50,253 --> 00:25:53,213 Speaker 5: for a long time as a team. You know, they 462 00:25:53,373 --> 00:25:55,533 Speaker 5: have a few changes around the edges, but it's in 463 00:25:55,613 --> 00:26:00,133 Speaker 5: the engine room. You know that Kowaja, Labershane Smith head Care, 464 00:26:00,253 --> 00:26:04,933 Speaker 5: all the quips, Lion Green's you know joined recently and 465 00:26:05,053 --> 00:26:06,773 Speaker 5: even more so than Guy Webster. 466 00:26:07,573 --> 00:26:08,693 Speaker 6: But you know they all. 467 00:26:08,653 --> 00:26:13,573 Speaker 5: Experienced different conditions and they found answers. They solved problems 468 00:26:13,613 --> 00:26:18,613 Speaker 5: on the field. South Africa can't match that. Their top 469 00:26:18,733 --> 00:26:22,773 Speaker 5: players are going to have to really play well. Robarda 470 00:26:24,373 --> 00:26:29,213 Speaker 5: Jansen the left armor and then maybe in the batting Aiden, 471 00:26:29,333 --> 00:26:32,813 Speaker 5: Markram and Bavooma are the ones. They all have to 472 00:26:32,853 --> 00:26:35,253 Speaker 5: play at their peak really, just the same as Richard 473 00:26:35,293 --> 00:26:39,293 Speaker 5: Hadley did in eighty five against the Australians when he 474 00:26:39,493 --> 00:26:43,973 Speaker 5: was way better than the Australian fast bowlers and thirty 475 00:26:44,053 --> 00:26:47,693 Speaker 5: three wickets and three Tests. So Robarda and Juhnson have 476 00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,453 Speaker 5: to be able to do that really, and the players 477 00:26:50,493 --> 00:26:54,613 Speaker 5: who support them, both seamers in the cordon and the 478 00:26:54,733 --> 00:26:56,533 Speaker 5: keeper have to hold everything. 479 00:26:56,613 --> 00:26:57,933 Speaker 6: But their batting is fallible. 480 00:26:58,653 --> 00:27:03,853 Speaker 5: You know, Rickleton and Desaucei at the top ten tests 481 00:27:03,893 --> 00:27:07,773 Speaker 5: and eleven tests, Beddington in the middle number five. Only 482 00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:12,453 Speaker 5: twelve test stubs might play nine tests. They just can't 483 00:27:12,533 --> 00:27:15,693 Speaker 5: quite match the Aussies and whatever metric that you call. 484 00:27:15,813 --> 00:27:18,893 Speaker 5: But it's a one off test, straight shootout. 485 00:27:19,893 --> 00:27:21,973 Speaker 6: I mean, if it's. 486 00:27:22,013 --> 00:27:25,053 Speaker 5: Murky on day one and in the South Africa Bowl, 487 00:27:25,173 --> 00:27:28,253 Speaker 5: Robarda is good enough if he plays well to make 488 00:27:28,293 --> 00:27:30,973 Speaker 5: a mess of a top order and if it's dry. 489 00:27:31,533 --> 00:27:34,533 Speaker 5: Maharaj I think is a very fine left armor as well. 490 00:27:35,013 --> 00:27:38,333 Speaker 5: But the batting doesn't forge confidence. I've got to say 491 00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:41,133 Speaker 5: most of the average of low. 492 00:27:41,013 --> 00:27:44,973 Speaker 3: Surgeons looking at the Australian squad wally, they're still trying 493 00:27:45,013 --> 00:27:47,293 Speaker 3: to find an opening to go with Kawaja, aren't they. 494 00:27:47,893 --> 00:27:51,173 Speaker 7: Well, I must admit I looked yesterday at both teams 495 00:27:51,253 --> 00:27:55,253 Speaker 7: and as Juramy probably agree with me, I don't follow 496 00:27:55,293 --> 00:28:00,453 Speaker 7: it that closely, but I couldn't recognize because we don't 497 00:28:00,493 --> 00:28:03,093 Speaker 7: see them often enough, and they don't play as much, perhaps, 498 00:28:03,173 --> 00:28:06,173 Speaker 7: but I didn't recognize enough of the South African names 499 00:28:06,253 --> 00:28:10,413 Speaker 7: to think that they had it's to players. And you 500 00:28:10,533 --> 00:28:14,293 Speaker 7: go through the Australian team and really you can just 501 00:28:14,373 --> 00:28:20,093 Speaker 7: about reel offen eight, nine, ten players who are very 502 00:28:20,293 --> 00:28:23,053 Speaker 7: very good players and very experienced players. And I know, 503 00:28:23,413 --> 00:28:27,693 Speaker 7: as you say, they're still uncertain about their two opening batsmen, 504 00:28:27,853 --> 00:28:33,173 Speaker 7: but any two of probably four of their players are 505 00:28:33,333 --> 00:28:36,893 Speaker 7: so well organized at this level that I could only 506 00:28:36,973 --> 00:28:39,613 Speaker 7: see in a five day game without weather intervening and 507 00:28:39,813 --> 00:28:42,013 Speaker 7: things like that, I could only see Australia winning. 508 00:28:42,653 --> 00:28:45,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, they South Africa don't seem to come up with 509 00:28:46,493 --> 00:28:49,853 Speaker 3: the team to win at the business end, Jerry Dog. 510 00:28:49,973 --> 00:28:52,453 Speaker 3: They've always sort of flattered to deceive. Yes, they're going 511 00:28:52,493 --> 00:28:54,293 Speaker 3: to win. We've got a chance. They've got a chance. 512 00:28:54,453 --> 00:28:57,133 Speaker 3: But they don't seem to quite make it at any time, 513 00:28:57,213 --> 00:28:57,453 Speaker 3: do they. 514 00:28:58,293 --> 00:29:01,573 Speaker 5: Well, they've made finals in the t twenties, haven't they 515 00:29:01,653 --> 00:29:05,613 Speaker 5: in the last last year, both the men and the women. 516 00:29:06,573 --> 00:29:09,653 Speaker 5: They're getting better, but I think in a Test match 517 00:29:09,733 --> 00:29:13,333 Speaker 5: in five days, we all know the better side has 518 00:29:13,453 --> 00:29:17,613 Speaker 5: the time as long as it's available to assert their superiority. 519 00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:20,413 Speaker 5: I mean, if you had to pick a combined team 520 00:29:20,933 --> 00:29:26,173 Speaker 5: between the Aussies and the South Africans, I reckon maybe 521 00:29:26,373 --> 00:29:30,053 Speaker 5: markrom at the top to go with Kwaja, but Smith 522 00:29:30,133 --> 00:29:31,493 Speaker 5: over Bavooma. 523 00:29:31,653 --> 00:29:32,853 Speaker 6: You'd pick a head. 524 00:29:34,693 --> 00:29:34,853 Speaker 7: You know. 525 00:29:34,973 --> 00:29:40,173 Speaker 5: Then the fast bowl is come and stark Lion, perhaps 526 00:29:40,293 --> 00:29:43,573 Speaker 5: Ribada might make the side, so you could only really 527 00:29:43,693 --> 00:29:47,053 Speaker 5: see I think two of the South Africans pushing for 528 00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:49,773 Speaker 5: a position in that combined eleven and it kind of 529 00:29:49,813 --> 00:29:52,333 Speaker 5: gives you an idea about the two sides. 530 00:29:52,893 --> 00:29:55,173 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, Well it's going to be interesting. It starts 531 00:29:55,693 --> 00:29:59,453 Speaker 3: next week at Lords and Jeremy will be there. He's 532 00:29:59,493 --> 00:30:01,533 Speaker 3: getting on the plane. Wally will be able to sit 533 00:30:01,613 --> 00:30:04,053 Speaker 3: back in now living rooms and watch through the night. 534 00:30:04,173 --> 00:30:05,893 Speaker 3: You know, there's plenty of cricket to be watched through 535 00:30:05,933 --> 00:30:08,613 Speaker 3: the night. I know you both do it on a 536 00:30:08,693 --> 00:30:12,973 Speaker 3: regular basis, watching cricket in the armchair at two o'clock 537 00:30:13,013 --> 00:30:15,773 Speaker 3: in the morning while I'm fast asleep. I don't have 538 00:30:15,893 --> 00:30:18,053 Speaker 3: time for that sort of carry on. So we wish 539 00:30:18,173 --> 00:30:20,013 Speaker 3: Jerry all the best, and I hope he sleeps on 540 00:30:20,053 --> 00:30:22,333 Speaker 3: the flight because I think he's getting off the plane 541 00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:23,333 Speaker 3: and going straight to Lords. 542 00:30:23,933 --> 00:30:28,453 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I am actually straight from straight from Singapore, 543 00:30:28,733 --> 00:30:31,333 Speaker 5: arrive in England and go straight to Lord's. It's great, 544 00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:33,493 Speaker 5: isn't it. I'll have a sleep there. Actually that's what 545 00:30:33,573 --> 00:30:35,653 Speaker 5: I normally do in common so you know that anyway, 546 00:30:35,933 --> 00:30:38,613 Speaker 5: was yeah, that's fine. 547 00:30:39,093 --> 00:30:41,733 Speaker 7: Well. I can remember often turning around in the commentary 548 00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:44,933 Speaker 7: box to see you stretched out and on the back, 549 00:30:45,453 --> 00:30:48,333 Speaker 7: eyes closed, and with that twitching hip you've had for 550 00:30:48,413 --> 00:30:52,693 Speaker 7: a few years, which obviously been fixed. But there was 551 00:30:52,733 --> 00:30:54,893 Speaker 7: a long wait to get to get the new hip. 552 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:55,093 Speaker 3: Wasn't it? 553 00:30:55,853 --> 00:30:57,053 Speaker 6: It was mate? It was mate? 554 00:30:57,093 --> 00:31:00,693 Speaker 5: Have you because IRV McSweeney's had a new hip done 555 00:31:00,733 --> 00:31:02,813 Speaker 5: in the last three or four months. 556 00:31:03,453 --> 00:31:07,613 Speaker 6: Ian Smith has had us have done as well, you keepers. 557 00:31:11,413 --> 00:31:15,733 Speaker 7: My problem was Monees even though you thought the ball 558 00:31:15,773 --> 00:31:17,813 Speaker 7: went into the gloves quite often me on the on 559 00:31:17,933 --> 00:31:18,333 Speaker 7: the end of. 560 00:31:18,333 --> 00:31:26,053 Speaker 3: The yeah, I got something else, had a good bottle 561 00:31:26,093 --> 00:31:27,493 Speaker 3: of gin. That'll be help, wouldn't it? 562 00:31:28,973 --> 00:31:30,133 Speaker 7: One win missing one time? 563 00:31:30,853 --> 00:31:33,613 Speaker 3: Remember one to one went missing? But never mind. We're 564 00:31:33,613 --> 00:31:35,133 Speaker 3: not going to carry on about that now. We're going 565 00:31:35,173 --> 00:31:38,213 Speaker 3: to wish Jerry all the best to the best flight 566 00:31:38,293 --> 00:31:41,373 Speaker 3: over there and enjoy the World Test Championship. So we'll 567 00:31:41,413 --> 00:31:42,693 Speaker 3: talk to you in the u k. 568 00:31:43,013 --> 00:31:44,573 Speaker 8: J C yep. 569 00:31:44,653 --> 00:31:46,773 Speaker 6: Thanks once. Yeah yet by all means. 570 00:31:49,013 --> 00:31:50,173 Speaker 7: Being too much on my prison. 571 00:31:50,253 --> 00:31:50,573 Speaker 3: That's all. 572 00:31:53,413 --> 00:31:54,813 Speaker 6: I'll get that new knee for you. 573 00:31:56,853 --> 00:32:04,573 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, talking to your Niga summer. 574 00:32:11,413 --> 00:32:13,973 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b listen live on 575 00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:17,053 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 576 00:32:17,133 --> 00:32:19,693 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio